WEBVTT - Emojis: A New Language? Nah. 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to stuff you should know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:13.399 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.400 Clark with Charles W. Smiley Faced Bryant and Jerry party 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.919 face rolling. I got no emoji. I'm just Josh wink face. Sure, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.319 eggplant and peach. Whoa, I know that's dirty, but you 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.400 can say eggplant and peach and get away with it 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.280 even on the team. Sounds like a the lightful meal. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.400 It does. Actually it doesn't at all, but not at all. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.880 It is cute for sure. I use the bitmoji now 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.920 some some which I see is not even in this research. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.440 So I just thought to throw it out there early. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:47.960 I want to go on record as saying that my 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.920 bit mooji is one of the best, because I'm honest, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.000 even do a bit moji? Do you even have that? Sure? 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.640 I've going okay, because you know, you design your own thing. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.280 So I found that a lot of people's bitmoji's aren't 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:07.039 very honest. You mean, the the the image of the person. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.240 I said, you know, I got a little chubby bearded guy, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.200 and every time I sent it to someone there like, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.480 oh my god, that looks just like you. And I 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.880 said yeah, because I'm honest, I didn't make myself a supermodel. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.440 I got you. I got you. I thought you meant 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.920 you were just like like you'd say like I don't 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.399 like that and mean it kind of thing. Now, I 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.920 don't know if I've ever sent you a bit moji, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.840 so I'm gonna do that right now. I don't think 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.840 you have checked in real time. What do you want? Uh? 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.840 You want me on an elephant? Yes? Or me crying 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.080 in the rain because you're not near me. Can you 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.679 cry in the rain on an elephant? I don't think 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.800 I can bind either. One's fine, elephant, we'll do elephant. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.000 I love elephants. Well, I can't find the elephant now, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.000 so I'll diploy you a kiss. Okay, So what we're 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.320 talking about today are not bit mooji's, although they would 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.560 qualify as a sub type of this, I guess. But 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.160 they use a lot of words. It's kind of like 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.080 when you're playing charades and somebody's like, that's close. That's close. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.079 It's like you can't talk, man, you have to just 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.800 shut up. You have to charade it. That's the difference 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.400 between bit mooji and emoji, and emoji is really what 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:20.720 we're talking about today, which is a pictograph basically like, um, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:25.520 a hieroglyph okay, but it's a modern hieroglyphic. Yeah. And 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.560 I will also go on record as saying I don't 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:35.359 really use emojis anymore because of the bit moji um 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.240 and I don't use them that often, but it's always 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.200 funny to send a bit moji to someone, like kind 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.520 of go out on a limb and be like, should 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.520 I send this? And then you get one back? Like 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.320 I remember the first time I bit moji Hodgeman. I 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.880 thought he's gonna think I'm just so stupid, and he 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.960 sent one right back. He's on the bitmoji train. I 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.160 can buy that for sure. But I don't use the 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.399 emoji as much anymore. But I did when they when 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.840 I I guess they first kind of hit the scene 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.400 on the smartphone. Um, and now I get a little 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.200 I mean, kissy faces and stuff are fine, but I 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.200 don't like when I just get like a thumbs up 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.600 reply for okay, that's fine, or thumbs up is almost 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.920 like I can barely tolerate you. Yeah, that's what it 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.240 feels like to me. That's what they're saying. I can't 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.440 be bothered to type okay, Right, I say k K 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.600 because it really kind of takes okay and and turns 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.880 it even more personal. I always thought you were just 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.080 jittery admitt to type k and just said it. No, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.400 I'm saying kak. So now you have legendarily fast thumbs. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.560 I do. It's from all the coffee I drink and 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.040 the speed. I will also say this that this article, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.840 and I mean I kind of picked it because well, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.360 I'm gonna be honest, we needed something a little easier 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.240 this week because it's a tough week. This is a 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.120 little more in depth than you may have thought, more 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.240 in depth and like way more interesting than I thought. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.720 The whole history of it I thought was pretty fascinating. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.200 So let's talk about the history of it. Man. The 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:08.680 the widely agreed upon start date for emojis comes back 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.800 in Night two, all the way back in two. And 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.480 it wasn't an emoji that first came out. It was 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.360 what are known as emoticons, the predecessor of emoji. Remember 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.160 those days, And we're all just big dummies and type 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.039 colin parentheses on a way. It wouldn't mean that that'd 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.160 be that's not even a thing. Yeah, colin parentheses is 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.320 smiley face. I was thinking quotations. Sorry, yeah, right, So 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.039 colon in a parentheses either way is a smiley face 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.520 or a frownie face. And that we can point to. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.560 This is so cool that that they know who did this. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:51.800 But a guy named um uh Scott Falman, and he 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.600 was either an admin or a frequent user or whatever 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.960 had something to do with the message board, the electronic 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.920 message board UM which was a very very early like 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:10.640 chat room forum prototype back in two for Carnegie Mellon University. Yeah, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.920 which we did some time there. We served out of 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.880 sentence there, we did. Now we did a little uh, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.880 a little short video Carnegie Mellon for days. Yeah, short 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.159 video for days. But yeah two he uh and I 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.680 don't even know if you said specifically, but September nineteenth. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.359 They actually have the actual date, which is amazing. And 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.000 he said on this bulletin board, if you put a 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.720 smiley face using this actually he even gus seated up 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.400 with the dashes the nose that they lost the dash 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.840 pretty quick. I like the dash, do you it gets overdone? 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.000 Do you know what I like? It's like it's a 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.839 horse face. What I like her? The people that are 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.000 can do like a whole picture out of typing things? 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.000 Oh yeah, like the Shrug Guy. Yeah that's no, no, no, 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.360 I mean like this whole page would be a big rooster. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.000 It's like the kids and me, you and everyone we know. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.320 Yeah exactly. They had like the Book of Them that 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.440 was the cutest touch. Yeah, good movie. That is the 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:16.239 one movie that has ever done whimsy right and didn't 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.600 go over the edge. It was whimsical to an exactly perfect, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.320 non annoying degree. So every other movie with whimsy you hate, yes, okay, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.000 like hate. I do like Shrug Guy, though Shrug Guy, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.320 I've never learned it just copy and paste him. Well, 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.839 I've never done it myself, but I just like the 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.919 way it looks. And I thought that's creative because it 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.280 looks exactly like what it is. Um And I was 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:43.880 always partial to as well to the awkward which was 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.920 which was that Colin slash. Oh that one's kind of 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.240 makes feelings about because it can also mean like wow, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.880 I'm really disappointed, or it's like sure it means that's 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.320 why I like it. I think very versatile. It is versatile. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.600 There's a lot to it, all right. So anyway, he said, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.680 if he used a smiley face with a colon and 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.320 that dash in parentheses in your comment to say it's humorous, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.400 then I think we can avoid it was kind of 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.360 used to clear up like the ambiguity of text and 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.080 things like that, not texting, but you know, sometimes it's 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.680 hard to read, like wait, does this person making a joke? Right? Right? 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.360 So if somebody was joking or being sarcastic, yeah, like 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.680 he used this thing, you right, and then the person 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.800 will know and we won't have an argument on the 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.880 message board because the person will know you were joking, right, Yeah. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.160 And it started in and what as we'll see. What 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:41.640 Falman hit on the head was the very point that 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.640 emojis fulfill, which is they add context to plain text, 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.440 which is important. Yeah. So um, Falman came up with 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:54.760 his triumphant victory, like you said, September nineteen, and now 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.640 he's sitting on a mountain of cash and oh yeah, man, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.000 he trademarked it very wisely. So hope everybody's sending him 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.000 the money in the time they used that emoticon, but 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:09.119 before him and I thought this was super interesting. People 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.560 have always, of course put little smiley faces and letters 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.400 and things like that. So this was an extension of that. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:19.360 But um, some historians say in Robert Herrick wrote a 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.800 poem entitled to Fortune, and it seems as if he 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.600 is purposely included an emoticon in a line upon my 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.400 ruins smiling Yet and he puts a colon in a 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:38.439 parentheses after the words smiling, And people say that may 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.320 have actually been the very first use of this. I 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.280 read the little article that had that, and there was 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.760 a um. There was a note in addendum and appendage, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:53.640 if you will, basically said and it was from an 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.040 English professor who said that at this time, in what 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.719 sixt in the mid seventeenth century, there was no no 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.760 standardized punctuation, and so even a poet writing something sending 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.640 it off to the printer would not necessarily expect the 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:12.640 printer to follow his punctuation to a t. I think 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.680 it's a bit of a lame explanation. Why even go 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.480 to the trouble. Maybe maybe this professor was saying the 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.640 printer himself could have added this, and that it wasn't 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.720 the poet's intent, and that it was just accidental. I'm 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.160 not sure. I like to think that. Yeah, this guy 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.960 had a tremendous amount of foresight and and in sixty 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.320 Robert Herrick said, here's your first emoticon. Everybody, come back 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.080 and find me in two thousand twelve. I'm gonna go 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.360 with that story. Okay, that's where we're going with. So 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.760 we had the emoticon either beginning in six or definitely 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.240 beginning in nine two, and that's all we had to 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.080 deal with for a good thirteen years if it was 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:00.160 the latter UM. And then in we finally get our 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.920 first emojis, and we know where those came from too, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.440 and believe it or not, everybody, they came from Japan. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.440 I don't no surprise, right right. It was a company 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:13.520 called n T t uh D Little Low Big Seed, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.840 Little low M Little Low Como. We're gonna call it 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.760 DoCoMo because that's what it spells. And they had to 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.720 icons a phone and a heart. And this is when 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:31.560 people um had pagers beepers. Did you ever have a pager? Tons? 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.360 Did you really? You had like two or three at 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.000 a time, depending on you know, what you needed. I 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.120 don't think I maybe I did. I think when I 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.559 got into the film business, I had to get a pager. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.000 But it was very very soon after that my first, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.520 like Nokia phone came into play. I didn't have a 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.040 pager for years and years. I didn't had a page 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.920 of like a year, if I remember correctly. Yeah, I 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.920 mean they were for those of you, for you kids 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.000 out there. There's probably plenty of kids who listen to 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.880 us to have no idea what a page is, all right, 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.440 It's like a little a little I guess digital thing 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.600 that was like the size of it was like the 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.880 size of a cigarette pack. But you guys all vape, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.240 you don't smoke cigarettes. It was smaller than that. Okay, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.000 it was the size of I don't even know what 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.280 it was, the size of a very tiny cell phone. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.160 I guess we could say inches. It was about like 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.800 two inches by an inch and a half, which is 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.079 some unknown amount of centimeters, right. But it was a 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.240 very small little box and you carried it with you 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.360 and clip that you could put on your belt. It 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.040 was a magic little box because somebody would call a 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.240 number that was associated with your pager and they would 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.880 like type in their phone number after the beep and 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.200 hang up or press pound I think afterwards. Then you 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.320 hang up and then you got a little alert on 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.520 that little thing you wore on your belt. Then it 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.559 would be like bee. It was very annoying, and the 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.120 person's number would be next to it, and if they 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.000 really needed to talk to you, they put nine on 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.000 one after. So you would then pull your car over, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.120 find a pay phone, call the number on your pager 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.800 and say you got the stuff. I'd be like, what's up? 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.400 What's so important? Right? Yeah, that was how people communicate 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.200 with one another before cell phones. It's really it seems 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.560 like a hundred years ago, and it's really funny that 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.840 it was the mid nineties, right, and then people said, well, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.679 why don't we just make phones more portable? And they're like, oh, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.400 that's actually had thought about that, good idea, because I 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.240 mean you had that bag phones and car phones at 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.679 the time. It was a thing. So the the Japanese, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.360 the entire country of Japan had pagers in the early nineties. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.280 They were early adopters. Yeah for sure, and um this 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:44.200 DoCoMo uh. They had a line called Pocketbell Pagers and 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.240 they were the ones that first added emojis. There was 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.439 a heart and a phone. Yeah. The phone meant call 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.040 me the heart very sweetly. I love that. The heart 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.640 was one of the first ones basically sending a message 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.920 of love. Uh. And then later on in the nineties, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.240 late nineties, I guess they streamline streamline that got rid 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.959 of those icons because apparently uh pocket Bell pagers with 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.200 a lot of business people that used them, and they 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.360 weren't into it. So the teenagers were like, forget you, then, DoCoMo, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.720 we're out of here. We're going to Tokyo messaging because 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.239 they've got these little what would eventually be called emoji's. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.640 I love that that. Um, the docmo like they got 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.599 all business like. They were like, we can't have the 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.840 heart on there. Yeah. Um, that reminds me of probably 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:34.360 my favorite Onion headline of all time. Man accidentally ends 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.360 business call with I love you the greatest one ever. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.320 That's a good one. My favorite was always Drugs Win 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.160 War on Drugs. Oh yeah, did you see the video 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.800 they made with I think Little Wayne. But they were 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.280 saying the d e A Had tapped Little Wayne to 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.319 go like carry out the war on drugs by doing 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.120 all the drugs. Well just to picture of his face, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.680 yeah right, yeah, but they would they use like clips 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.480 of him like on a on his tour of us 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.520 trying to talk but he's just so waste. He's not 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.800 even making sense, and but they clipped, they interspersed it 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.319 in like it was a news report, and he was 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.360 doing a great job. It's funny too. After our ten 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.320 years of doing this, we've gotten to do so many 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.840 cool things because of the show. And one of my 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.360 favorite things ever still is that when we knew people 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.720 at the Onion, they took my picture one day and 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.080 they'll still trot that out as Aria man and I 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.360 will be My mug will be in an Onion article 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.720 every now, and it's because area man. Yes, shout out 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.800 Joe Randazzo for there. Yeah, back in the day, getting 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.800 us in the office. All right, so should we take 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.560 a break. Oh god, we haven't yet, haven't we. Now, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.120 let's take a break and we'll be back to talk 0:14:45.160 --> 0:15:06.920 about where they went with Dokomo right for this? All right? Man? 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.880 So DoCoMo said we're done with you kids, and then 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.240 they said, oh wait, god, come back, you're like a 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.160 third of our business. We had no idea. Um, Luckily 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.960 they had an engineer named Shiga Takakura. You're really good 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.000 at the Japan much. I'm around it a lot, and 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:31.280 uh I guess coud tasan Okay, we'll go with that 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:36.200 he was working on a mobile internet platform called i Mode, 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.240 and he said, you know what, we're just trying to 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.080 get some pretty basic thoughts across here, like on a 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.520 on like a mobile network, so like your phone, stuff 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.360 like the news or the weather or something like that. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.600 Headlines literally had news headlines and what the stock markets doing, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.600 or if it's sunny out so right, right, and stuff 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:00.480 that's going to like repeat on like pretty predictable over 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.040 like fairly short time scale. So it's gonna be sunny 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.200 this day, and it's probably going to be sunny again, 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.240 so you're gonna go back to the sunny thing over 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.080 and over again rather than you know, typing out sunny. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.680 What if he just had an icon of a son, right, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.080 And this is a huge breakthrough. And what this guy 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.000 did was create the very first emojis for this imode platform. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.120 And he actually coined the term emoji two shigy taka kurita, 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.520 that's right, uh. And there was a character e limit, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.280 a two character limit, which is kind of the main 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.240 reason behind why we have emojis as good. So, like 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.400 you said, he didn't have to type out sunny. You 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:41.200 could use one character uh. And in nine it sounded 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.360 like the future back then. Remember it's crazy. Um he 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:51.480 developed a hundred and seventy six of these initial emoticons 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.840 for things dealing with the weather, sports, food and drink, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.920 love of course, and like you said, he made up 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.520 the word E which was a picture emoji, which was 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.639 character and that's where it comes from. Yep. So the 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.719 thing was then you had how many did he come 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.520 up with? Two hundred seventy six initial ones? Okay? Um, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.680 so the thing is is this this whole mobile platform 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.520 I mode and again this is we're talking about. Um. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:27.080 They they had like two fifty characters tops. But these 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.200 broadband networks weren't invented yet. This was all like really 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.879 low fi stuff still, so it was very much ahead 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.560 of his time, so he kind of had to reverse 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.159 engineer how to get these things across. They had a 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.600 stroke of genius since there was a finite number of 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.520 these things. Rather than sending a picture from one phone 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.240 to another when one user wanted to send that emoji, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.359 they stored the pictures in the phone and then you 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.720 could activate those emojis from a simple too to alpha 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:01.000 too I guess to bite alpha numeric code. So when 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.320 your phone got the right alpha numeric code. It would 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.280 produce a smiley face. Yeah. It really set the stage 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.440 for what we have today. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.560 Umi was over there at this time. She was in 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.199 Japan teaching and she told me, like, you know, I 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.439 came back and I was like, wait, we're not We 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.960 don't have texts, like everybody texts. You don't have Hello 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.000 Kitty right exactly. And it was like years before, Like 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:31.320 Japan was definitely doing this fairly early compared to us here. Yeah. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.919 I remember seeing, um, the first handheld cell phone that 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.280 wasn't the big brick phone. I saw one of those 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.879 in l a in the in the late eighties or 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.040 early nineties, like on a literally in a Hollywood backlot, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.520 some producer had a brick phone, Like, oh my god. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.560 But the first I kind of cell phone cell phone 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.320 I ever saw was in London, and I guess it 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:57.240 would have had to have been ninety five or ninety six, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.640 and I had never seen one. Was like the big 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.920 rectangle with the flip down mouthpiece and the pull up 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.240 antenna something like that. It may not have had to 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.280 flip down, but it was, you know, it was smaller 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.040 than a brick phone. Um, but I just remember thinking 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.719 a while, like London, that they're on the leading edge 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.480 of technology here. I've never seen that before. What in 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.680 the world's that guy doing? Let me see that thing? 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:29.120 All right? So many years passed more they called them. 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.280 I don't even know how much they called them emojis 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.280 or icons back then. Probably well now the guy had 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.200 coined the term emoji, yeah, but I just don't know 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.040 if it was like the popular term at the time. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.919 I see, I think it was Japan. Okay. Yeah, again, 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.480 ahead of the ahead of the thing, ahead of the curve. Yeah, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.359 I just want to make sure that that's been gotten 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.920 across very much ahead of the all right. In two 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.840 thousand ten, a company called Unicode Consortium, well it wasn't 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.680 a company, it was the Unicode Consortium or a nonprofit 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.680 and they are a group of tech companies and volunteers 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.280 from the tech industry that basically really understood this stuff. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.960 Saw the writing on the wall with the emoji on 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.440 the wall and where it was going, and they says, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.639 why don't we do this. We need to create a library. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.560 It needs to be standardized. Because I even remember early 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.160 on with smartphones, you know, different platforms, someone would send 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.080 you an emote, an emoji from an Android to an iPhone, 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.280 it wouldn't come across. So they said, we need to 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.640 standardize this so it can operate across all iOS devices. Yeah, 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.679 or even if like the phones had the same emojis, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.800 they might not use the same codes, so you might 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.320 get like the opposite of what you're looking for. You're 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.080 looking for a peach and you get a big right exactly, 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.280 and they're like, wow, are you trying to say? Man? 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.879 So there was there was this great need for uniformity, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.679 but it didn't come out until what what year was 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:54.960 the two So this Unicode Consortium and the Daily Mail 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.080 by the way, called it the Unicorn Consortium if you noticed, 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.440 and I called it the Unicode Consortium either way? Can 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.359 you pronounce it both ways? I think the Brits do that. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.160 And that's when you saw your first cell phone, so 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.919 full circle. Yeah. So, um, Unicode got together and they 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.680 said we're gonna we're gonna make this this like collective, 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:17.200 open source, nonprofit effort to encode these things and create 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.719 a universal standard. And in doing so they've made what 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.359 some people point to is we'll see as one of 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:29.000 the first universal languages. Yeah. And also but it's not 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:34.480 really um. Strangely, it's it shocked me to know that 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.000 no one owns this. I love that there is no 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:46.760 patent or i P property rights to emojis. That it's great, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.399 but it's it's kind of shocking that something so ubiquitous 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.280 some like no one's making money off of it. I 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.960 love that it's wonderful and rare and so rare. That's 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.159 why it's shocking them. It is now. Um, we should 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:03.640 say that some people point to the Unicode Consortium being 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:08.760 uh dominated by some major major companies. I think Google 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.040 and Apple really have a lot of people in there. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.959 But again it's a nonprofit group and there are rules 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.080 that are followed. I think the implication is is that 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:23.880 there if Google or Apple puts up some suggestions, which 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.159 they do sometimes, they may have a little more likelihood 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:32.440 of getting past than other people's emojis. Maybe probably uh. 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.240 And then also since they're both American companies, the universal 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.040 set of emojis tend to skew a little more American. 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.440 Like hot dogs and hamburgers and French fries are there, 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:44.800 and now they're just now starting to get to like 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.840 euros and things like that. Those are not too huge 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.240 downfalls in return for this thing being open source and 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.560 unowned by anybody except for the entire world, right. But 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.600 one huge downfall because it's open source and anyone can 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.840 do anything with these emojis is that we got the 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:06.120 Emoji movie because some Hollywood executive was like, well, we 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.040