WEBVTT - Underwater Boyfriend with Jason Biggs

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon, everybody, Good morning whenever you're listening to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Hi, Hi Hi Chelsea. Ye So Chelsea, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got back from Mexico with two of my girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know, for me, there are certain people that

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't even want to spend a whole day

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<v Speaker 2>at Disneyland with, but I like them. They're my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>these couple of girls I have a great time with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious for you, because you travel with people

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. What do you think sets apart somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you want to travel with or you

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<v Speaker 2>know will be good to travel with, versus someone who

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<v Speaker 2>won't be.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can't be annoying first of all, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, first of all, you have to be self sufficient

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to be on your own, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're traveling, you can't be dependent on the other person

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<v Speaker 1>the entire trip, Like there are moments that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to stop and chill out, like go to the gym

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<v Speaker 1>or read a book for an hour or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's I think one criteria, Like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Neediness, you know what I mean, You're already on vucation together,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't need to do every fucking singles thing together.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's different if you're on like an active vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you're like at you know, like like when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at my house in my Orca and I bring

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<v Speaker 1>people or invite people in, like we're usually together as

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<v Speaker 1>a group doing stuff. For the most part, it's random

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<v Speaker 1>that people are doing their own thing unless you bring

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<v Speaker 1>two wrong groups together, which I've done.

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<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, so I don't know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>always nice to just mix big groups. I've only had,

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly have a had.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I could count on one hand the bad combo

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<v Speaker 1>platters I've put together on trips. It's happened once recently

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<v Speaker 1>and then one year. Yeah, my birthday trip was just

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<v Speaker 1>a hot mess and I invited all the wrong people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, and I just was like fucking paying

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<v Speaker 1>for it the whole time because everyone was not like

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<v Speaker 1>into each.

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<v Speaker 3>Other, not clashing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like I just I just hadn't planned

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday until the last minute, which is the way

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<v Speaker 1>I do things. So I invited just I randomly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the right group.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's hard to find a group of people that

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<v Speaker 2>are all going to gel together.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually like, if you're not an asshole, you can pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much get along with anybody for a fucking week. That like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless somebody is really riling you up and going off

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<v Speaker 1>on you, like I'm sorry I've been on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on other people's vacations very often. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>honest for that reason. So I get it that is

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. But I also think when you are at

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<v Speaker 1>someone's house, like you do behave yourself, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, You're not gonna have arguments with other people

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<v Speaker 1>or not get a wrong with other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would figure it out and make it work for

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<v Speaker 1>a week, to be a good house guest.

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<v Speaker 3>I take a lot of pride in that, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why I don't do.

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<v Speaker 1>It very often, right, So I prefer to arrange the

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<v Speaker 1>vacation and bring people along. And I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>your family's the only one that everyone can be Like

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<v Speaker 1>our family, you can be a dick, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine to say can happen, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight, Like I only fight with my sister in law

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<v Speaker 1>Olga about politics like everyone else in our families on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page. So I just have to withdraw from her,

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't fight as a family, And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we're pretty lucky that way, because you do hear about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, discord within families. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are some people that I've definitely left vacations early when

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in a situation where I'm like, uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not this is not what I was in envisioning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of people to be on vacation with, I

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<v Speaker 1>have vacation with our guest a couple of times. He

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife and their baby came with me to

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<v Speaker 1>Whistler one year for a ski trip, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>went on a trip together overseas, and I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>been on one other trip together anyway. Yeah, he's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that's good to travel with. I mean when they don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring their kids, let's be honest, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need I don't need that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think parents need to go get away from the

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<v Speaker 2>kids too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a good gay couple that I could I

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<v Speaker 1>used to go everywhere with, like my boyfriend and I

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<v Speaker 1>met him. This is years ago, this couple, Kevin and Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>and we went on like eight or nine vacations together.

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<v Speaker 1>Work trips and vacations and that was a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Combo, right Yeah, and then did they ruin it by

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<v Speaker 2>having a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had twins, so I haven't been on vacation

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<v Speaker 3>with them since. Shout out to Kevin and Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>And today's guest is my very old, dear, hilarious friend

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<v Speaker 1>who is married to another hot mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and that's Jenny Mullen who guessed back in June

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Jason Biggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi, Hi, high Penis face, what's up cot? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast, Jason Biggs. Jason Biggs is a very

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<v Speaker 1>old friend of mine. We have had many, many, well

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<v Speaker 1>humiliating experiences together, isn't that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Jason?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your fondest memory that we have experienced together.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not start with most humiliating, because well I know

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<v Speaker 1>what mine is, but we're not going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's your fondest memory of us as a couple?

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, I need to know why did want we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about yours? I'm curious if our is actually sync up? Also,

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<v Speaker 4>my fondest could be the most humiliating. Those those also

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<v Speaker 4>might sync.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, right right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think our fondest If I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>encapsulate the fondest memory, there have been so many. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I've forgotten half of the times that we've

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<v Speaker 1>spent together, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a tendency for forgetfulness.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason actually has a better memory than I do because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't drink like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Do so anymore any anymore? Right right, right, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>old friendship, I mean, we go back to.

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<v Speaker 1>The pre drinking days. Oh yeah, yeah, when things were

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<v Speaker 1>really jumping off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly. In fact, I have to say I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>impressed that we've maintained such a wonderful friendship even in

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<v Speaker 4>my post partying days. I mean, there are people in

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<v Speaker 4>my life obviously that knew me pre sobriety. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just feel like nothing's changed with you and I, which

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<v Speaker 4>I love. I feel like, if anything, our relationship has

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<v Speaker 4>gotten stronger. I feel like I've seen a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>of you. Weirdly, since I moved to New York in

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<v Speaker 4>a certain in a certain way.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that funny how that happens to You have friends

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<v Speaker 1>that live in the same city and then you rarely

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<v Speaker 1>see them and then they moved to New York, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you see them every time you go to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent. Well, it's great. Will you always give

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<v Speaker 4>us a heads up when you're here, which I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's fantastic, and we love seeing you, and

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<v Speaker 4>we love when you pay for dinner. It's great. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's one memory that I'm constantly reminded of online,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's usually from haters. It's never in a positive light,

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<v Speaker 4>even though for me the memory is just wonderful. Was

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<v Speaker 4>on that incredible boat trip that you very generously took

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<v Speaker 4>Jenny and I and a bunch of your other friends on,

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<v Speaker 4>and I may have urinated on you while you were

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<v Speaker 4>swimming in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>He yeah, he did urinate on me, and which I

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<v Speaker 1>obviously do not care about, because any parent knows that

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<v Speaker 1>urine is urine, and I consider myself a parent.

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<v Speaker 3>Any parent worth their thoughts has been urinated on.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was more directed at me, like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an accident and I wasn't changing his diaper.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I had jumped off the boat and he was about

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the boat, and he just started peeing

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<v Speaker 1>on the ocean and then just peed on my head.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was laughing so hard because it was so stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone recorded it. Jenny had recorded it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jenny was recording it, and then Jenny posted it

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<v Speaker 4>of course, kind of laughing so hard. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up doing just like in the clown's mouth

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<v Speaker 4>at the carnival game. I think I got you right

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<v Speaker 4>right down the game. And then it was crazy a

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<v Speaker 4>balloon up on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Of your Yeah, yeah, I pulled my ripcord and so

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<v Speaker 1>then then I floated off into space. It's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you go Ellie skiing, you have a parachute on your back. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared of urine like most people are, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Jenny was like, can I post this? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, sure, who cares? And then now to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I get Republicans going, You're a dirty who allowed yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to get urinated on instead of seeing, instead of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the wonder full humor in the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>What's interesting is that Jenny asked you if she could post.

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<v Speaker 4>She never asked me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm sure you're not getting that. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you getting a lot of Did you ever get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of backlash for urinating on me or a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of prey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, no, no backlash. I'm saying I still to

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<v Speaker 4>this day, and You're right, it's hugely across a political

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<v Speaker 4>line to a certain person that will write in and

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<v Speaker 4>just remind me. I'd say, once every couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just see something in my mentions Instagram and or

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter where it's like, yeah, never forget, you know, hashtag

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<v Speaker 4>never forget you peed on Chelsea's face. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just an every time I read a comment, I chuckle.

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<v Speaker 3>I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think to myself, what was I thinking allowing

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<v Speaker 1>someone to post that?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think to myself, again, who gives a shit?

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<v Speaker 4>Who gives a shit? There's so many memories though, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, it's interesting. Jenny and you go

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<v Speaker 4>even further back, obviously, and I met Jenny in two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and seven, and I think I met you pretty

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<v Speaker 4>soon after meeting Jenny. I mean it was in those

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<v Speaker 4>first couple of months. I mean, shit, we were married,

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<v Speaker 4>like after knowing each other for a few months. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think right away we started hanging and you had

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<v Speaker 4>you just got the E Show. I think you were

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<v Speaker 4>maybe like first season or it was early days. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and you were like killing it, and you were doing

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<v Speaker 4>all these wonderful trips and parties, and we were very

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<v Speaker 4>lucky to be included. We had some great times. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the boat trip was for sure one of the one

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<v Speaker 4>of the all timers. But you know, I'll still run

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<v Speaker 4>into people that were at your party in Cabo, like

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<v Speaker 4>randomom people that I have, and they'll be like, you know, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you know. I was like, yeah, I know, Chelsea

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<v Speaker 4>were friends. She's you know, we've known each other a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. Yeah, I think I met you in Cabo

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<v Speaker 4>at her party. I said. There were so many people

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<v Speaker 4>at that party and I was so fucked up that

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<v Speaker 4>entire long weekend. I mean, yeah, so many people I

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<v Speaker 4>saw naked by accident, slash on purpose. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people I did drugs with and I didn't think even

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<v Speaker 4>did drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of nudity all around the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great highlights of our scuba diving trip, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the one we were referring to where the urination episode happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny and Jason are very bona fide scuba divers. They

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<v Speaker 1>have spent a lot of time underwater. Are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>master divers?

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<v Speaker 4>Not master we are advanced open water we actually haven't

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<v Speaker 4>done in a few years. But no, that's really are

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<v Speaker 4>you a master diver?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get your you saw my performance diving? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not anything. And first of all, they have to take

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<v Speaker 1>out the word master diver. I don't think that works

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<v Speaker 1>anymore either. It's like master bedroom. If you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a primary diver.

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<v Speaker 4>What about master bait. Do we have to change that

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<v Speaker 4>to primary bating?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because that's totally different and there's a U, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same thing. But I did masturbate this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I went when I was in my Orca. I went

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<v Speaker 1>on three dives because Sophie, who you know, my good girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>her sister Alex is a real diver. She dives all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world as well, so she was coming to

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<v Speaker 1>my Orca and I was like, she wanted to die,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, sure, let me get you know, warmed

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<v Speaker 1>up again.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went on three dives.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jason was there when I went on my first

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<v Speaker 1>like eight dives because the French Polynesia trip was like

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<v Speaker 1>we would go on two dives a day, so everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was diving and it was my first introduction into diving,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had probably the closest thing to a panic

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<v Speaker 1>attack that I've ever had, which was being underwater, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a very large shark underneath my feet, and then my

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<v Speaker 1>cousin Mollie grabbing my ankle to show me the shark.

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<v Speaker 1>So the two combo platters of someone grabbing my leg

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<v Speaker 1>and then looking down and seeing the size of the

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<v Speaker 1>shark that was underneath me, which was easily eight to

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet, I immediately just couldn't understand what.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to go up. Yeah, I had to go up.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the shark had me. Then I saw my cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to kick her underwater, which anyone knows that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. And then this are one of our divers

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<v Speaker 1>that we were, you know, with two guys were helping

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<v Speaker 1>us right for the whole group, and there were ten

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<v Speaker 1>of us, and one of the divers came right over

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I couldn't clear my goggles.

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<v Speaker 3>I was starting to kind of hyperventilate, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He grabbed me by the shoulders and he just started

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<v Speaker 1>gesticulating the breathing like to calm down, like breathe in,

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<v Speaker 1>breathe out, and he was holding my hands and I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking into his eyes and I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna fuck this guy, you know, like he just

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<v Speaker 1>saved my life and he's calming me down, and this man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to show my love by penetration afterward.

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<v Speaker 3>And afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>He we did the rest of the dive, holding hands

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<v Speaker 1>while Jason and Jenny were giving me the finger underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>telling me I was such a.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby and I had an underwater boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited, like I was like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my underwater boyfriend. And then when we get up, when

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<v Speaker 1>we got up from the sea of life to the

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<v Speaker 1>natural world and we were above water, he took off

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<v Speaker 1>all of his contraptions and I was like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna fuck this guy. Like that was we if

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to have sexy, which would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Underwater, the goggles did a lot of worse. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>that was a bullet dodged.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, one of my typical signatures ailes

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<v Speaker 1>of behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone helps me and then I feel attracted to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, oh my god, that was that was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of amazing. Meanwhile, speaking of sharks, I forget how this

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<v Speaker 4>came up. Chelsea was talking to Jenny about this great

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<v Speaker 4>white shark dive trip. Chelsea, I believe it, found out

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<v Speaker 4>about it, had spoken to someone who was involved in

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<v Speaker 4>this charity. You could basically pay in. It's all charitable.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a scientific research trip. Yes, that you could kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tagleong for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And Chelsea was like, I'm doing this, do you

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<v Speaker 4>guys want to go? This was after I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Polynesian trip, so she was super into the diving.

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<v Speaker 1>And we Gaudalajara, I believe, right somewhere in Guadalajara.

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<v Speaker 3>You go on a science boat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you leave from San Diego and you go

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<v Speaker 4>out to this Guadaloupe island.

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<v Speaker 3>In Guadalupe, I knew it was guad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a guad. It was a guad and

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<v Speaker 4>one of the Yeah, it's this big great white.

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<v Speaker 3>Short one of the gus, one of the gods.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a big great white shark breeding ground.

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<v Speaker 4>And Chelsea got us in We're like, oh fuck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're definitely doing that. Chelsea's like, cannot wait, this is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be so awesome. And I don't know in

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<v Speaker 4>my memory it was. It was a couple like we

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<v Speaker 4>had planned it for a little while and it was

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<v Speaker 4>a couple weeks before the trip, we had booked our flights,

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<v Speaker 4>everything was a go. We were flying out, we were

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<v Speaker 4>gonna stay with Jenny's mom, who lives in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a bait. SID was really little. Chelsea talks

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<v Speaker 4>to Jenny or me or both. It was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I'm thinking. This sounds awful. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty four hour boat ride out to this island. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>information that we knew from the very beginning, but she

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<v Speaker 4>just decided to not let it didn't absorb, and so

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<v Speaker 4>she's like, for.

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<v Speaker 3>The record, no, no, excuse me, for the record.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say I don't look at details

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<v Speaker 1>about things until they come closer. So whether that information

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<v Speaker 1>was available or not, I don't I'm not contesting that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am going to say that I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been privy to that information until it came closer. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I start to look at details, and I start

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<v Speaker 1>to look at pictures of where we're staying.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on a science boat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is not an excuse, Chelsea. I mean this

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<v Speaker 4>is again, all of this information was readily available months

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<v Speaker 4>and months prior when we got When you got us

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<v Speaker 4>excited and By the way, Chelsea and I live in

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<v Speaker 4>different economic brackets for sure, but it wasn't a small

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<v Speaker 4>lump of change. I mean, this was like a nice

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<v Speaker 4>donation to go on this trip. And She's like, I'm out,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out. Did you guys see the boat? Like this

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<v Speaker 4>is disgusting and it's a twenty four hour trip and

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<v Speaker 4>the water's insane apparently, and where I'm out and what

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<v Speaker 4>happened on our en? I'm like, wait, what really is

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<v Speaker 4>this all going to fall apart? Jenny was like, Chelsea's right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out too. This is horrible. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>we're thinking. This is this boat looks terrible. So now

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<v Speaker 4>she's gone, So now we're left. I'm like, what's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>happen in the end? Your cousin stepped up? Molly stepped up,

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<v Speaker 4>and well, Molly was always.

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<v Speaker 1>Going, Molly was going always and and Dara, I said, Molly,

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<v Speaker 1>you take a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dara who you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we are in.

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<v Speaker 1>My Orca with her this summer. We wait, Dara who

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<v Speaker 1>used to work with me on my Netflix show. She

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<v Speaker 1>went with Mollie was and by the way, did you

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<v Speaker 1>did you end up going?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, such good friends Chelsea. We've known each other so long,

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<v Speaker 4>and really.

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<v Speaker 1>I went there, so I mean, you expect me to

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<v Speaker 1>remember moments I wasn't even there.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking out, Yes, I went, and I ended up getting

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<v Speaker 4>a friend to go, Like days before, I was able

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<v Speaker 4>to find somebody because because Jenny was also like I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm out. Chelsea is right. This boat looks like shit,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna sink, and I don't want to go when

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<v Speaker 4>we have we have one kid. I should stay back

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<v Speaker 4>with the kid in case you sink and die. So

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<v Speaker 4>I found a friend and it ended up being fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Ours the best Molly and I. We had the best time.

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<v Speaker 4>My buddy was great, Like, we ended up having an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible trip. It's a life highlight for sure. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it all sort of came together in a very Chelsea

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<v Speaker 4>in way where it was like, this is the next

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<v Speaker 4>big adventure. We are doing this, and we're all like yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and then She's like, ah, have fun, guys out.

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<v Speaker 1>But also Dara was seasick from the time they left.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get seasick, but I think on this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of adventure you might get seasick.

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<v Speaker 3>She was sick.

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<v Speaker 1>She lay in her bed and it was a bunk bed,

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<v Speaker 1>a cement bunk bed.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was right not to go. I was right

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<v Speaker 3>not to go because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would not have been okay with that, Like I need

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<v Speaker 1>the right pillow tops.

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<v Speaker 3>You brought Maxi pads.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we just lend a whole bunch of Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason always has Maxi pads on him always. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>prefer the term Maxi shield.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. Yes, that's a good story. I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 3>that up. Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you and Jenny just came back from one of your

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<v Speaker 1>adventures and now that you're traveling with two small children.

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<v Speaker 1>Well one of them isn't so small anymore, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>technically smaller children.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not legal.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that going for you? Because it looks crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at the end of every trip that we take

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<v Speaker 4>with the boys, Jenny and I say with complete conviction

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<v Speaker 4>to each other that we are never going to do

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<v Speaker 4>it again. There is no way we can take them.

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<v Speaker 4>It ends up being just not fun for us, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a waste of money and time and energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're never going to do it again. And then

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<v Speaker 4>we're like monkeys touching the electric fence.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of weeks later, we're like, where should we

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<v Speaker 4>go next. I will say this last trip that we took,

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<v Speaker 4>we went to Dominica Republic on their spring break. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the first time that it felt okay. We were hopeful,

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<v Speaker 4>like there weren't too many major inconveniences because of their age,

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<v Speaker 4>because of their fighting, because of the time and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the first trip where you go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're maybe on the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, fully, once I'm sure where it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to the next trip we take is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a disaster. It's hard. I mean it's very hard. But we,

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<v Speaker 4>like you, we love travel. For us just like you, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe we have this in common, like travel is

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<v Speaker 4>the number one thing in our lives. It is how

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<v Speaker 4>we learned, We want to learn. We're curious people and

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<v Speaker 4>we love doing it, and it's it is where we

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<v Speaker 4>spend our money. It's our luxury and we like doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>And like we always said, we were never going to

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<v Speaker 4>let the kids get in the way that and there

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<v Speaker 4>for the first couple of years though, you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>would still we were still what we should have done.

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<v Speaker 4>I think was sort of edited. The kinds of trips

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<v Speaker 4>that we took been a little bit less ambitious. But

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<v Speaker 4>out the gate we were like, no, we're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to not go to Europe, Germanys. We have kids now,

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<v Speaker 4>fuck that. But in the end we probably should have

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<v Speaker 4>just went to Nantucket, you know, or the shore like

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<v Speaker 4>we would have had fun. It wouldn't have been as

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<v Speaker 4>big of a put out for us in every way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think we're finally on the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>it because our boys are now both I think at

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<v Speaker 4>an age where they're you're seeing their curiosity about the

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<v Speaker 4>places we go to. They're better with jetlag obviously that

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<v Speaker 4>that was always a huge part of it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're getting better. So I don't know. I'll keep

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<v Speaker 4>you posted. We're going back to Europe over the summer,

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<v Speaker 4>so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>One other memory before we get started is for anyone listening,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know the Ayahuasca episode is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular that I did for the Chelsea Does series.

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<v Speaker 3>That was with Jason's wife, Jenny.

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<v Speaker 1>So the woman in that episode, along with my other

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<v Speaker 1>friend Dan, was Jenny, and Jenny had a real epiphany,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also had a very like emotional reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the ayahuasca. On the first night, and I'll never forget us.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in Peru, like on some tributary off the Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>and that night I'll never forget Johnny was just like

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<v Speaker 1>all I could see she only had one baby at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Sid and She's like, all I could see

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<v Speaker 1>is my baby and my husband and my baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love my baby and how much I

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<v Speaker 1>love my husband and how much I love my baby.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, go call Jason and tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, she called him, and then she got

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<v Speaker 1>off the phone and go, did you tell him how

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<v Speaker 1>much you realized you loved him? She's like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not telling him that far. And I just thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was so fucking funny. But of course Jason learned about

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<v Speaker 1>it all because he was saw the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, she doesn't want to give me too much

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<v Speaker 4>and that would be that would shift the power balance

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<v Speaker 4>and our relationship in her mind. Yeah, but it's so

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<v Speaker 4>interesting that ayahuasca. Man, it really, it was just so

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<v Speaker 4>profound for her. She came back, she was very clearly

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<v Speaker 4>a changed person because you know she Yeah, motherhood for

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<v Speaker 4>hers is a very you know she's got the weird mom,

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<v Speaker 4>and she she was always afraid to be a mom

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<v Speaker 4>and afraid that she couldn't do it and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that that specific episode, I mean, was hugely

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<v Speaker 4>important and it was incredible. She came back. All the

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<v Speaker 4>things that you're that, the positives you hear about ayahuasca,

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<v Speaker 4>it all happened to her. I knew your experience was

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<v Speaker 4>a little different, but for her, she came back and

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<v Speaker 4>she was like a changed person, changed mom, changed wife,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, this is amazing. It lasted about

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<v Speaker 4>six months, I would say, and then it started to

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<v Speaker 4>just peter out and then it was sort of back

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<v Speaker 4>to square once. So I've been trying to push for

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<v Speaker 4>her to go back to Peru some more ayahuasca.

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<v Speaker 3>Well have you you've never done ayahuasca? Have you no?

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<v Speaker 4>And I you know, I was already sober when you

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<v Speaker 4>guys did that, And honestly, I didn't really know much

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<v Speaker 4>about ayahuasca before that, So when it got on my radar,

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<v Speaker 4>I was already sober. And I'm kind of conflicted about it.

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<v Speaker 4>The truth is, like I mean, I saw it with Jenny,

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<v Speaker 4>and I believe the science behind it that it does

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<v Speaker 4>have incredible therapeutic potential, particularly with addiction and substance issues. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>and so interestingly ironically, I think it would be wonderful

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<v Speaker 4>for me. But at the same time, because it is

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<v Speaker 4>a mind altering substance, I'm on this sort of it's

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<v Speaker 4>a sort of a gray area for me as a

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<v Speaker 4>sober person to mess with that. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>everyone sober people I think that you would talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it would all have a different answer about it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think my sponsor, for example, would probably say, no, don't

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<v Speaker 4>do it. But I'm weirdly open to the idea. But

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that I haven't yet in how everybody was

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<v Speaker 4>that seven years ago. The fact that I haven't yet

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<v Speaker 4>speaks volumes. But you know, now it's sort of the psilocybin, right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the new sort of version of ayahuasca. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in the same boat with that. I'm like, I believe

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<v Speaker 4>it's therapy to polic I know that I would benefit

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<v Speaker 4>from it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, I believe you would too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not as your you know, obviously, I'm not your sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you have the personality that's always like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's a growth edge drug ayahuasca.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to speak to the psilocybin, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that could become a habit psilocybin whereas ayahuasca's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a one off.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I never did ayahuasca recreationally. That wasn't in my

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<v Speaker 4>repectation of drugs, whereas psilocybin was something that I would

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<v Speaker 4>do to get fucked up a lot, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And ayahuasca is more of a therapeutic.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though psilocybin is in the way it's distributed, it

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<v Speaker 1>can become more of a habit, whereas ayahuasca is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an experience. There are people who do

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<v Speaker 1>it multiple times, but I feel like my experience lasted forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock on wood, I still have the same feelings I

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<v Speaker 1>had after I knew that it changed my mindset period

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<v Speaker 1>for good with regard to my relationship with my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, okay, Well that was very entertaining Jason as usual.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and the other thing I love about Jason, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why he's on the show today, is because he's

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<v Speaker 1>very into therapy and he's very into talking about his emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a straight guy, I appreciate that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's Jewish because he goes to therapy, but I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>reminded that he's actually not Jewish because Jewish men are

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<v Speaker 1>so good at therapy. But Jason is very well attuned

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<v Speaker 1>to his own emotions and talking through them, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be very nice to have a

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<v Speaker 1>straight guye on to answer our callers questions, and we

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 1>curated them towards you so that you will wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll take a quick break and we'll come right

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<v Speaker 2>back with some callers, and we're back. We're back. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll start with a caller today. Aisha is calling in

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<v Speaker 2>about a sensitive subject and we have to get her

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<v Speaker 2>back to work. So she says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six year old woman married with two boys. My

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<v Speaker 2>husband and I have been married for about a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the epitome of a good man. He never lies,

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 2>he's actually incapable of lying. He has never yelled at me.

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<v Speaker 2>He respects my friends and family, goes out of his

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<v Speaker 2>way to help anyone, and is genuinely one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best people I know. Before him and I got married,

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<v Speaker 2>we had each been in one other serious relationship. My

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<v Speaker 2>first boyfriend, when I was nineteen, was the first man

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<v Speaker 2>I'd ever had sex with, and he was much more

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<v Speaker 2>experienced than me. The sex with him was amazing, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was the epitome of a bad boy and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>treat me the greatest. My husband also has had only

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<v Speaker 2>one other sexual partner prior, and that relationship he had

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<v Speaker 2>was only a few months long. Needless to say, he

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<v Speaker 2>was very inexperienced when we got together. The sex between

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<v Speaker 2>us has never been great. In the very beginning, things

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<v Speaker 2>seemed promising, like it might get really good, but as

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<v Speaker 2>time went on it was the same old, lackluster routine.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they say you have to teach your partner

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<v Speaker 2>what you like, but I don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 2>train a man. There's nothing sexier than a man who

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<v Speaker 2>knows what he's doing in the bedroom and just takes

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<v Speaker 2>full control. I've never had an orgasm with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>as the years went on, we've just had less and

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<v Speaker 2>less sex. We'd attempt it occasionally after having kids, but

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<v Speaker 2>i'd have to stop because nothing was working and I

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<v Speaker 2>would just completely shut down. We're to the point now

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<v Speaker 2>where we just don't have sex at all. I have

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<v Speaker 2>zero romantic interest in him, and I can't even will

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<v Speaker 2>myself to want to kiss him. I long for the

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<v Speaker 2>days of my twenties when I was having incredible sex

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<v Speaker 2>and the feelings of just not being able to get

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<v Speaker 2>enough of my partner. I'm now in my mid thirties

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<v Speaker 2>and I crave to have that relationship with a man again.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I find that the only pleasure I get comes from

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>masturbating thinking about the sex I had with my ex.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I get the romantic feelings back from my

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<v Speaker 2>husband and how do I get a great sex life again?

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<v Speaker 2>Please help? Sincerely, Aisha, Hi, Aisha Hi, Chelsey, Hi, Aisha Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Jason Biggs as our special guest today. Say hi, hi, Hiisho.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll jump in first because I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you owe it to your partner to express these things

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<v Speaker 1>and to try, and it is your responsibility in a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>to teach your partner what makes you feel good. It

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<v Speaker 1>is because you're in a committed relationship and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that he's going to figure that out without you

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<v Speaker 1>verbalizing it. And as unattractive as that may sound, you're married,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you've been in this relationship for sometime. You owe it

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to him to give him a chance to understand what

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you're expecting or what you need. Obviously having a no

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>orgasm and not having great sex is a turnoff, right,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>But how can you expect him to know anything unless

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you are communicative about it, and you know a sex

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<v Speaker 1>therapist will be able to give you the language to

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<v Speaker 1>use if you don't feel like you know how.

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<v Speaker 3>To say these things to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Like, you can't give up on your relationship unless

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you give somebody the tools to improve and then they

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>can't do it, then then there's a you know, you

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of overturn all of these things before

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you can give up on someone. I would say, I mean,

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>if you were dating him for a couple of months,

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sure fucking say good bye.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think don't you owe him a little bit

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 3>more than that?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I agree, as if.

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<v Speaker 6>I just find the communication part very hard because he's

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<v Speaker 6>not a good communicator. So whenever we do try to communicate,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 6>it's always like I put myself out there and he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't really know how to respond or how to fully community.

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 6>Like we've already gone to like marriage counsel and I

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 6>got couple's therapy, and even like the therapists. We started

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 6>out together and then they recommended that we do individual

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 6>sessions as well. Like, even the therapist had trouble getting

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 6>him to communicate and open up. So it's just very

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 6>vulnerable for me to put myself out there and then

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 6>not get anything back.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he remain in his individual therapy.

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<v Speaker 5>Not very long.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 6>Even the therapist was like, we're not really getting anywhere

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 6>because like he really doesn't know how to communicate.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>This is a very common issue among men, FYI, So

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you know that, you know, I know a lot of

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>my friends who deal with the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously, sex is hugely important in a relationship,

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 4>especially in a marriage, but I do believe you need

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 4>to sort of exhaust every option obviously before you sort

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<v Speaker 4>of raise the white flag here. It's a bummer to

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 4>hear that he's not a great communicator. It's interesting because

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 4>you talked about how could a guy he is, But

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<v Speaker 4>I really wish there was a world in which you

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 4>could both commit to Does he understand just how important

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 4>an issue this is to you, Like, how much has

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 4>been conveyed to him in terms of how you specifically

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 4>the sex issue, how important it is to you, and

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 4>how much it is an issue. Is he aware? He

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 4>is aware of it, right?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I would like to think so, but I

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 6>guess we haven't really had that full conversation. But I

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<v Speaker 6>mean at this point, I mean, I couldn't even tell

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<v Speaker 6>you the last time that we had sex.

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably been years.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll start with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you need to start with that. I

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 4>mean it's and not in a threatening way, obviously, but

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 4>I think he should know that you're in a really

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 4>bad spot. This is something that's incredibly important to you,

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 4>and you're not You don't want this relationship to end.

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 4>He's the father of your children, and you guys obviously

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 4>he's a great guy and you guys have something clearly.

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 4>But I think you need to let him know just

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 4>how really difficult this particular position is for you. And

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 4>if there isn't movement, then you don't don't know what

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 4>sort of to do from there. He needs to know

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 4>how sort of dire it is, because it is important.

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Jenny and I fight. I mean, we've gotten into some

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 4>real fight. We'll go we joke about it, but the

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 4>truth is we'll go stretches without having sex, and sometimes

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 4>the sex is just whatever, And but we know that

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 4>the potential is there. We just have to find the

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 4>way to talk to each other and let each other

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>know what the issues are. I really think you should

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 4>try to make him go back to therapy, and if

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want to do individual again, like then the

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 4>two of you go back to the Chelsea mentioned a

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 4>sex therapy. There's marriage counselors, but then there's ones that

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 4>are more specific to sex. I think would be really

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 4>good for you to look into. I can really tell

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<v Speaker 4>from your letter. But assuming that you want this to work,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, are you kind of at the end where

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 4>you're just going I want to be done with this

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know what to do next, or do

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 4>you want this to work out?

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I want it to work. I mean we have two kids.

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's not something that I'm just going to

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 6>walk away from, and I mean I definitely want to

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 6>put in the effort, you know, to make it work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well then I think you need to put in

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 4>a little more effort. Yeah.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>A good person to listen to just on your own

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost is Esther Peril. She's like the great

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>sex therapist and she has a podcast and she talks

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>about this exact thing with couples and when their sex

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>dries up and they don't have any spark left, and

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that sounds kind of like where you are. But I

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if writing an email to your husband or

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>sitting down and talking to him, which whatever you think,

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>would have a greater impact, but really laying it out,

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>because the only way he's going to learn to communicate, obviously,

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is with your communication. I know many men that are

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>like this, and you have to say, this is exactly

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>what Jason saying. This is getting dire. I'm starting to

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>think about maybe we might not make it unless we

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>start to cultivate some more sexual honesty between us, and

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>for me, that involves having pleasurable.

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Sex with you.

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in that, we have to work to

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>revitalize our relationship.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 3>We have two kids.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to stay married you, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to live like this forever.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 3>So it's not a threat.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just an honest assessment of where you are and

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe therapy and time. But really focus on the sexual therapist.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Like getting a sexual therapist. These people are skilled and

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>well versed in how do you get the ball rolling

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>again and communicating Because even if your husband's a shitty

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>communicator in real life, he could be a great communicator.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 3>In your sex life.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>There are different compartmentalizations that people have, and once they

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>learn the language and get the vocabulary, they're excited to

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to use that vocabulary.

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>So you could still have that.

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like, you could still have

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a good sex life if you put some effort in.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:38.959
<v Speaker 3>There's a possibility of that.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no guarantee, but it's worth exploring more

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and focusing on that aspect of things rather than maybe.

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Going to couple's counseling.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Since you guys already try that route and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out, I would say you didn't have the right counselor,

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's worth trying again. But first and foremost, I

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>think you should address this issue because you know, having

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>sex with people.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.959
<v Speaker 3>It is always going to bring you closer to that person.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Esther also talks a lot about how when

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you're more comfortable with your partner, like you talked about

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 2>at the top of your email, the more comfortable you

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>are and the more safe you feel. Sometimes like the

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>sex get it fizzles and it gets less hot and

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>less hot. The more comfortable you are with them. So

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>she has books and she's got a podcast, so I

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>would check that out as well. I think one other

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>thing to point out is this conversation that you're gonna

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>have with him about like this is something that's really

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>important for the continuation of our marriage. Is something that

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>while it doesn't seem like there's a huge risk of

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 2>that because you guys aren't really having sex anymore, it

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 2>should not come at a point where you've like tried

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 2>to have sex and it's fizzled. It should be like, hey,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 2>family meeting time, just you and me, let's talk about

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>how we can jump start our sex life because this

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>isn't working for me.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 4>So that family meeting with the boys as well would

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 4>be very interesting.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 5>We just had that conversation with my five year old

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 5>the other day. Actually, yeah, about your.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Sex life with your husband?

0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Well no, no, no, no, no.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 6>We were in the and he just randomly said, so,

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 6>how do babies actually get.

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 5>Into the mom's bellies? I need all the information.

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe your husband just needs all the information.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 3>It does.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Here's exactly what I want.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 4>I could have said, well I used to know, but

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 4>it's been so long I couldn't tell you, and.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say like I've never had an orgasm with you.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say, like, it's been a while since I've

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>had an orgasm with you, Like this is what it

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>takes for me to have an orgasm, you know, Like

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>do you feel comfortable with having this conversation with him?

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 6>Not particularly, but I'm going to force myself to do that.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 6>The only thing I'm really struggling with is once we

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 6>get through this is like in my head, I always

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 6>have this expectation that sex is just gonna be shitty,

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 6>so I can never like initiate it. How do I

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 6>get over that hurdle of once we get there and

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 6>we're starting up again, like getting out of that mindset?

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, you should tell him a that you want him

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to initiate sex, right, and you're projecting like your past

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>experience onto the future, which does doesn't ever work for anybody.

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you can have a new beginning with him. You

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>have to be present about what you're doing. Now you

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>have a new approach. You're going to talk to him

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in an honest way that you probably have an exercise

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>for a while. So the result of that has the

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>potential to be really great, and you should focus on

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that instead of what has happened in the past.

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and just keep telling yourself. If you want different results,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>you have to act in a different way.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Your behavior now is going to be different because you're

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>addressing it head on, and that's going to lead to

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>different results. And that's what you have to keep telling yourself. Okay,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll keep us posted and let us know

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're back, all right.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 5>I will thank you.

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>So send us some pictures of you guys having wild

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 1>sex and I'll post thanks for you.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I'll have Jason post them for you.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, shaw bye bye, all right, well, good, we

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>put a smile on her face. That's the most important thing.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 6>MS.

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Dude, all my Orange just escape to me. That's my

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 3>therapy Orange. I know.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this is the point where like she can get

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>to the point where they're having great sex, like she

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 2>talked about, like I was envision.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 3>At this point because it sounded sex just any sex

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 3>and men.

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jason, your present company excluded because I doubt

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 1>you're like this, But I mean, there are so many

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>men that are not able to communicate anything, and that

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the idea of communication is so scary that they would

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>rather opt out of the relationship than have to deal

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>with it, you know what I mean. But there's also

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a group of men who, when put to the test

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and know that it's the end of the rope, will

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>do whatever they can to salvage the relationship.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that was such a good point that you

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>guys both made. Was so often when it's like, we

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't had sex in three years, I'm out, Like it's

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the person gets blindsided and they didn't even see it coming,

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>when like she's obviously been feeling this way for years,

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe for their entire relationship. So having that conversation where

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I'm getting to the point where I want

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to raise the white flag is so important.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, our next caller is Gabriel, and Gabriel says, dear Chelsea.

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty years old and disabled. I've been in a

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>very lovely relationship with my girlfriend for the past six years,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>and for four of those we've been living together. I'm

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sure she's the one that's been settled.

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 2>May issue is this all our family and friends ask

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>when we're getting married and having children. Getting married will

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>eventually happen because that's something we both want. We just

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>aren't worried much about it since we're in a great

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>place in life right now. I take issue with the

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 2>question about when we're having kids. My girlfriend and I

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>are sure that we don't want kids for more reason

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>than one. Some are personal, some come down to the

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 2>fact that we just don't want them. Comments at least

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>toward me, are always made about how I'm very good

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 2>with kids and I must be wanting to become a dad,

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>when in reality, I don't really like kids. I'm good

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 2>with them because they're just that they're kids, but it

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean I want them for myself. I find myself

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>not knowing how to answer this question anymore without sounding

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 2>like an asshole or what others claim is selfish. When

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 2>asked why I don't want kids, no means no. Even

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 2>with a seemingly harmless question like this, it does get

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>very annoying, and I'm running out of things to say

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 2>because to some folks, I don't want kids isn't enough.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for listening. I hope you can tell

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>me what to do, because I'm starting to think just

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>walking away from the question is the way to go.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>HI Gabrielle.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Hi Gabrielle, Hi, gabriel Hello, how are you guys, Eri

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Gabriel That's Jason our special guest today.

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Jason Biggs is here, so you have a straight mail

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to lean on as well as the two of us.

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Straight ish Finally, Nice to meet you man, Nice to

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 4>meet you, Jason.

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 3>What would you like to say out of the gate

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 3>on this one?

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh boy, Yeah, I actually really want to hear what

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Chelsea has to say on this. I think it's more.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 4>I think it applies more to her. I mean, my

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 4>situation is this, I always wanted kids. I married someone

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 4>who was not as gung ho as I was, you know,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>and so there was always a bit of a disparity

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 4>in whenever we would answer this particular question for starters,

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 4>but also when just our general approach to it. As

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 4>time started going by, and we've been married for multiple years,

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 4>we didn't have to sit until we were married almost

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, eight or nine years, anythink, But eventually Jenny

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 4>sort of Jenny's big thing was fear. The reason she

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to do is because she was afraid she

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 4>would be a terrible moment. Because she didn't have a

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 4>particularly great moment right. I think that's sort of my

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 4>psychology one on one on the whole thing. But there

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 4>was a part of her that sort of knew why

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 4>and knew that maybe she should over try to at

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 4>least overcome that fear. So I saw an opening, So

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I definitely was trying to kind of push it a

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 4>little bit more. Ultimately we did it, We got to

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 4>that place, and she became a different person as a mom.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we talked earlier in this episode about Jenny's

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.439
<v Speaker 4>yahuasca experience. She for the first few years and even

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 4>to this day, sometimes she's like, I don't what am

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 4>I doing? Was this the right thing? But I shouldn't

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 4>say was this the right thing? She knows it was

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 4>the right thing, but she still questions, you know, we

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 4>all anyway. My point is she's on the other side

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 4>of it now, and it's an incredible thing that we

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 4>have the kids. So it's a little different, I suppose,

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 4>than where you guys are in that you're both on

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 4>the same page about this. That's the great thing about

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 4>your situation, I think, is that there's no disagreement, there's

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 4>no difference in the way you guys feel about the issue.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 4>So that's wonderful, Chelsea. I really want to defer to

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 4>you on this, like what are your.

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Thoughts on I think that you should come together with

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>your fiance and develop a united front answer for each person.

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>People just don't have any original ideas to talk about.

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So when they know that you're in love, they want

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to know when you're getting married, and then they want

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to know about kids because that's just the way that

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>society has been built. So the best way to just

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>confront that, or you don't have to confront I guess

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it's more of like, you know, you feel like you're

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>on the defense when people ask you that question. I mean,

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 1>I know that I've been asked that question, even as

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>public as I've been about, you know, not wanting children.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Not that I don't like children, I don't.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly what you just said in your letter. I'm

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 1>nice to them because they're children, but I.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't want them. I don't want one of them.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>And it's a newer idea culturally, but it's not a

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>new idea. There are plenty of people that have had

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>children that shouldn't have had them, that didn't want them,

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that thought that they had to have them. So a

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>simple answer is we don't want to be one of

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>those people who regret having children because.

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>We both just don't feel the urge that's good.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>And having people try to convince us otherwise feels really

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>unfair to an on board child, you.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 7>Know, That's really all it is. Like I'm I'm someone

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 7>that's really happy with my life. My girlfriend Santa, she's great.

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 7>She We're both really in great stable areas in our lives.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 7>We love what we do, and like it's just for

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 7>one like she has for reasons. I have my reasons.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 4>For me.

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 7>I know as a disabled person that I cannot have kids,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 7>Like I know that, and that's such a thing that's

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 7>like not very common with guys, and that's like spoken about,

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 7>like infertility, it's not very talked about. And I think

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 7>that's kind of really frustrating in my case because I'm like,

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 7>I can't have kids, and then I get the.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 8>Oh, you should adopt kids.

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, you're not listening to know. I don't want

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 7>exactly the whole experience, the kind of like how Jason

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 7>said with the fear at the same time. At first,

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it was the fear, but I think in

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 7>my case, my fear is kind of in a selfish way,

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 7>because I have an amazing mom, but as the years passed,

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 7>and like with diabeties, I know her life is kind

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 7>of ending. And as selfish as it is, like this

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 7>is something like I hold to my heart. I don't

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 7>want to bring kids into this world and them not

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 7>get to meet my mom and enjoy her, because my

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 7>grandmother was a huge part of my life and I

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 7>only got to enjoy her for eight years and that

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 7>like crushed me. And I'm thirty now and every day

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 7>I remember her. I try to keep her present in

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 7>my life. But at the same time, I'm like my

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 7>girlfriend always says that she just doesn't have the desire,

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 7>and like, I know that I also don't have the

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 7>desire because I've never, like, like I said, I'm good kids.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 7>I've babysat a lot of kids. I've actually even delivered

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 7>a kid. Eleven year old should not be delivering kids.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 7>I was an eleven year old delivering a kid. Weird experience.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 7>I know, I was like, WHOA not for me? So

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 7>that's another reason it's cool. My friends have kids. A

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 7>lot of them kind of bug me about it and

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 7>like just even know is like they just won't take

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 7>that they bring up an excuse, but maybe Siena does.

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, I know, I know Sienna doesn't want them.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>But also you don't owe anyone even an explanation, you know,

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a good way to shut it down is say, listen,

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced enough difficulty in my life being handicapped. Like

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>my experience is enough to take up a lot of

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 1>space in our room. We don't have room for a child.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>That should shut people the fuck up right away.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 7>I'm only four to four great, Yeah, I'm really short,

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 7>so I'm only going to hold my kid for two

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 7>months and then I'm gonna be like, all right, well.

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 4>You're my size. But I also, Gabriel, I think you

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 4>should run with. Dude, I think you should run with.

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Next time someone asks you, be like, have you ever

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 4>delivered a kid? And when they say no, you'll be like,

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I have, I don't want to do again. I'm done,

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 4>peace out. Just drop the like I literally get delivered

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.479
<v Speaker 4>a kid on them. I feel that's your trump card.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you can transition to that funny story,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it traumatize me enough, like I can't

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>handle it.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was too much for me.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we just gave you three options to shove

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>people the fuck up, So I mean just write all

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.439
<v Speaker 1>three of those down and that way you can fire

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that off anytime somebody asks you the question.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 2>And I will say, as someone who's been married for

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 2>a long time, you know, assuming you guys go the

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 2>long haul, there is a point at which it stops

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>being cute, like people think it's cute to ask you

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in you're having kids, to where it's awkward for them

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to ask you if you're having kids, like after the

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>ten year mark, they're like, well, if they wanted them,

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 2>they'd be having them already, or there might be some

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>trouble going on there that they, you know, can't get

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>pregnant or whatever. People make their own assumptions just like

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 2>they do assuming that you might want kids. So it

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>does get a little bit better.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's that's really what I'm I'm I'm hoping for.

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 7>Like it's just very I think I'm in like a

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 7>generation where it's in the middle of a transition area

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 7>where younger folks want to not have kids and women

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 7>and guys are just kind of living a more free

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 7>life with like older folks. So you got to get married,

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 7>you got to have the kids. And so I'm kind

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 7>of like, I enjoy my life. I like to smoke

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 7>my weed. I like to enjoy my Dodger games. I

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 7>work with homeless veterans. I help house them, so that's

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 7>like a job that I absolutely love in a door.

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 7>I have a dog, I have my precious partner. Like,

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't need anything else. I'm fine, I'm happy, We're happy.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 7>Can it just kind of stop there. It's just a

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 7>little frustrating and overwhelming, the constant, constant, constant. It's like, damn, y'all,

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 7>pull the funk out.

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 4>I say this, though, for what it's worth, I would

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 4>assume that it's better that it's coming externally as opposed

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 4>to within the relationship. The fact that you yeah and

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 4>she or on the exact same page about this is

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 4>such a beautiful thing, and that's what's ultimately going to

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 4>get you through. You know. It sounds like you've got

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 4>a lot, a lot of things to be happy for

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 4>right now. So yeah, it's a bummer that this kind

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 4>of weazy down a bit. But I hope there's a

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>like Catherine said, I think it'll subside.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 7>I sure hope so I'm looking forward to that, like

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 7>I know, marriage and all that stuff. Eventually, it's something

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 7>we want. We've talked that out a million times. The

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 7>kids stuff as well. We're just we kind of as

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 7>bizarre as it is. I think that was kind of

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 7>a turn on which she was like, Oh, I don't

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 7>want kids.

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not bizarre if you feel that way and you

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>find someone that's like minded, and a good idea is

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 1>when you do get married, a great announcement to make

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>your wedding is that we don't want to be asked

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>about children because we're not having any.

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, Gabriel, thank you so much for calling in. Let

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 2>us know how it goes next time you tell a

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>gory story about delivering a child at eleven years old.

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 7>All right, thank you guys so much. I appreciate your words.

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Take care, Gabriel. I have a good one.

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Delivering a baby, and I was going to ask him that,

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, shit, I didn't know how much

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 1>time we had.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have more questions than answers after that, You're right,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna lie.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, Grace says dear Chelsea, my husband of a couple

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>months now, who I truly adore, follows, likes and views

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 2>what I call first trap influencers on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok.

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll admit they're super hot, but you know the kind.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like watching porn or being on only fans

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.720
<v Speaker 2>all day now. As a single guy in the past,

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he did this prior to our involvement or marriage.

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Totally fine, and in fact, I promote healthy porn watch

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 2>in and out of a serious relationship. I myself partake

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in such pastimes. For some reason, this feels different. When

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>does it become too much or not acceptable. I'm not

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 2>a twenty eight year old with great tits and a

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>smoking ass, but I do know he finds me attractive,

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and I also feel pretty damn sexy myself. I mean, hell,

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I do me. He doesn't have many followers on his accounts.

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 2>He seems to just use these platforms to follow sports,

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>politics and these naughty girls. We aren't friends online ourselves,

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and I don't sneak looks at his dms. We have

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 2>a great sex life and I feel loved, seen and appreciated.

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think I feel sad when he quickly

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>scrolls past and tries to hide these bang and ask girls,

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.959
<v Speaker 2>just wondering what your thoughts on this are and maybe

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 2>how to express this to him without seeming incredibly insecure

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and tell him it makes me uncomfortable? Should I worry?

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Or is it not a big deal? I'm on the

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>fence all my love, Grace?

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>What do you think of that? Jason?

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 4>She said something at the end there about how do

0:49:55.960 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 4>I say this without seeming insecure? What's wrong with seeming insecure? Cure?

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I have two thoughts on it that kind of fight

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>each other. The one is I don't think it's that

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 4>big a deal. Hi, baby, big career? We're talking?

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Baby? Is that you?

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting text?

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 8>Could you be a little bit quieter? By too long

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 8>to hear me?

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Jenny? We need your advice on this.

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So we had someone Collin who said that her husband,

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>who she loves very much, follows a bunch of thirst

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>trap type people on Instagram. He follows politics, sports, and

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>thirst traps, and she's getting insecure about him looking at

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>these photos of women and she doesn't want to come

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>off as insecure, but she doesn't know what to do

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because it makes her feel uncomfortable.

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.240
<v Speaker 8>Well, I just go on, Jason's going to delete anybody.

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't want him following.

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You're right, right, okay, so that's one option, that's and

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Jason never notices.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 4>That really interesting block them. I still feel like I

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>follow a couple now, well not for law.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 8>For him though, are like pictures of like Hooney on

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 8>a bit of ripes.

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 4>That's true for real, it's true. No, but hold on,

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 4>I do think Look, it's the porn issue, right like,

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 4>even when the sex is incredible, but more discrete about well,

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 4>that's my thing. He needs to either chill the funk out,

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 4>be more discreet. It sounds to me like she's trying

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 4>to find it a little bit. No I find baby,

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:25.479
<v Speaker 4>do you see who I find?

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 8>Don't you see nothing that Sarah Foster always does when

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 8>she sees that, like Tommy like likes a photo of

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.479
<v Speaker 8>like some like, well you don't like it, well, first

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 8>of all, don't be an idiot.

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.720
<v Speaker 4>Don't like the photos you can follow it, don't post

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 4>all right, don't.

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 8>Come all over the.

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I love you, love you.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 4>But my other thought is there's nothing wrong with being

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 4>honest and also showing your vulnerability and your insecurity. But like,

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 4>come on, say it like Hey, dude, I if I

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 4>was the guy and Jenny came up to me and

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 4>it was like, you would not castrate me, and I

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 4>do do it.

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 8>I do follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Booth in everybody, this is what's happening at their house.

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<v Speaker 4>I do. There are a few people I follow. Shut

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<v Speaker 4>my door.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can follow some more. Okay, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs to tell him that it makes her feel icky,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she should be honest with them. She should be

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<v Speaker 4>honest with them, but with the understanding that it's like

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<v Speaker 4>he's not doing something wrong. In my opinion, it's if

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<v Speaker 4>you make him feel like he's being accused of doing

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<v Speaker 4>something wrong. It's how you phrase it. If you make

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<v Speaker 4>it about yourself. This is This goes for anything in

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<v Speaker 4>the relationship, right you make it not you?

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<v Speaker 1>Not you are making me feel insecure. It makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel insecure. I'm insecure and this doesn't help my insecurity.

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<v Speaker 3>Not you make me insecure, which is such fucking bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>When someone says that to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, that's it. It's a It's a subtle but

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly huge difference. And that would be my approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the ask is, can you follow those gals on

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<v Speaker 2>another count, so like you can look at that in

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<v Speaker 2>your private time, so I don't have about.

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<v Speaker 1>That now when you have private stuff and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not private, It's not like he's having an affair.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just looking at these accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, when I start dating a guy and I see

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<v Speaker 1>that they follow a ton of celebs accounts and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not a celebrity, I'm grossed out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what is he doing? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like gives you that? Not in an insecure way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, wait, why is this guy caring about

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<v Speaker 1>so much about celebrities if you're not a celebrity?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, the whole point of dating somebody that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>celebrity is that you don't want to deal with that

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<v Speaker 3>whole world. Do you want to have a life independent

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<v Speaker 3>of that?

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<v Speaker 1>So I can relate to it in a certain certain degree,

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<v Speaker 1>Not as in a jealous way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more of a turned off way, like what are

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<v Speaker 3>you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when you have insecurities, it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>express them as long as you're not accusing the other

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<v Speaker 1>person of making you feel And then see how he

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<v Speaker 1>responds to that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. See how he responds might go, oh god,

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<v Speaker 4>and look joking aside, I follow some pages on there

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm not particularly that that are a little voyeuristic

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<v Speaker 4>and weird that sometimes then we'll post like sexy photos

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<v Speaker 4>of people. Well I don't follow the sexy accounts, but

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<v Speaker 4>they'll sometimes be reposted on other accounts that I follow. Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>but here's the thing, like he doesn't have to follow them,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you treat it like porn, dude, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to go to those pages, go check them out at

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<v Speaker 4>another time when you're alone. You don't have to be

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there scrolling and have to so that she's just

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<v Speaker 4>unfollow and the next time you want to see someone's boots,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's on a porn site or an Instagram follow,

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<v Speaker 4>go and do it in privacy. To me, it's an

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<v Speaker 4>easy fix. But I do believe if she approaches it

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<v Speaker 4>with vulnerability, I think there's no reason he shouldn't react.

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<v Speaker 1>And also he may get defensive in the beginning. But

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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, see what he does, how he responds

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<v Speaker 1>instead of reacts, you know what I mean, Give it

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<v Speaker 1>a little space to see how he responds to your

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<v Speaker 1>feelings being heart or you being insecure, about something, because

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<v Speaker 1>in a loving relationship, the other person should worry about

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<v Speaker 1>the other person's feelings and you know, making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they're okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you're not asking them to like get what

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<v Speaker 4>is this to give up? I mean, at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, day, it is like compromise, right, is

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<v Speaker 4>the key to relationships at the end, it's like compromise

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<v Speaker 4>and communications. So at the end of the day, if

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<v Speaker 4>it really came down to he needs to not follow

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<v Speaker 4>a couple sexily clad models on Instagram, then like, who cares, dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I also like, I don't know that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big I mean, I feel like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, it's not a big deal. It's not a deal

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<v Speaker 3>breaker as all it is. It's not a deal breaker.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But ultimately you have to decide. See, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's a big deal. You have to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of see, like whose needs need to be met more?

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<v Speaker 4>You want to meet both person's needs. But at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, someone may have to bend a

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<v Speaker 4>little more, right, right, Yeah, And we don't know who

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<v Speaker 4>that person is in this situation, but I can see

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<v Speaker 4>either one of them needing to bend and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>the fucking end of the world. If you need to

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<v Speaker 4>unfollow a couple of people to keep your marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>Intact, Yeah, follow them and need to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Him to look at them in another room and you're

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<v Speaker 4>not aware of them, then fucking deal with it like

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<v Speaker 4>it's something it has to be at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jason, just calm the fuck down. I need to.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to, Okay, obviously, I just we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>right back. We're going to take a quick break. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna take a quick break and we'll be back. Okay, bye,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back to wrap up with Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>To wrap up with Jason Biggs. Everybody, what a delight, Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>what a.

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<v Speaker 4>Just primary baited during the break.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called white humor. It's called white privileged humor. You guys. Okay, Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for being here. I love you

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<v Speaker 3>so much, Love you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Chelse, thank you for having me. Catherine, so great to

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<v Speaker 4>meet you. Likewise, You're the best, Chelse, Love you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, take care, have a great day Banks. Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys. We have added more shows to my Little

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<v Speaker 1>so I have two shows in Toronto now to December seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>December eighth, December ninth, I'm in Ottawa and two new shows.

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<v Speaker 1>At December fifteenth, On a Friday, We're doing a seven

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<v Speaker 3>And all my other.

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