WEBVTT - 111: Cartoon Network 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.960 Hello, welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I am one 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.079 half of your host, Danny Fernandez, sitting across from me 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.800 virtually still is if you want anyway, how's everybody doing 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.759 there in your home? So hopefully six feet away from 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:28.360 folks mask on the opposite of the future song if 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.840 he I recently got tested and was negative. Um, and 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.239 that just goes even though I've been out protesting what 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.240 not the last couple of weeks. Would like to say 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.600 again the importance of wearing a mask. A lot of 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.159 people are taking these masks off and it's crazy, and 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.040 I just want to say, like, I still have been 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:51.320 testing negative. I've been really careful. Um. I know sometimes 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.280 it's not always someone's fault, but a lot of people 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.600 are acting. When we were protesting, there were people at 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.600 brunch not even kidding. We walked by people at brunch 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.280 and who and I was just with their masks off, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.120 enjoying their eggs. Benedict, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.840 wild too, because, um, when I went to the last protest, 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.800 I took a lift there because you know, I didn't 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.240 want to drive, and something pop off, I need to go, 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.480 and then I'm stuck trying to get my car. So 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.560 I was like, let me just lift and then you know, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.360 I know these streets, um, but I forgot like that 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.240 all that, all of that stuff is different now. So 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.040 like the lift driver showed up and I was wearing 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.080 my mask, and then he was like, oh he put 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.360 his mask on, Like bro okay, first of all, but 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.760 I'm glad I did because we're talking or whatever. And 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.319 then he just starts coughing recklessly. I'm like, glad you 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.160 put your mask. You try to have it off. You're 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.839 trying to have this off. Drop my ass off. Also, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.000 that means he was coughing in his car the whole 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.640 time before. You got in a lot of cough particles. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.200 That's why I had my mask on, you toll. The 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.920 people don't know that. And then you got the a 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.360 c on you know, cough particles everywhere. We're not talking 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.240 about car cough particles right now. We're talking about cartoons 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.600 more specific. We're talking about the cartoon Network Baby talking 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.000 another cartoon Network Baby. I can see our guests laughing 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.120 at this transition with the smooth segues. I always got 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.720 the smooth talking about the coronavirus. We're talking about the 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.960 cartoon virus. Yeah, the virus that is Cartoon Network. Baby. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:23.840 Uh yeah, no, yeah, yeah, that's what that's what we're 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.200 talking about. It's a good time. But you know, we 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.600 we we couldn't have be a conversation about cartoon now. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.680 One of the one of our good friends who's as 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.680 a triplog holding it down all over the Cartoon network. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.760 Someone would say he's taking over Cartoon Network. Every time 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.919 everyone would say he is Cartoon Network someone. Yeah, Mr 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.600 Cartoon Network, like you know, uh, you know, like like Pitbulls, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.720 Mr three or five live, this is Mr Cartoon Network. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:55.799 Uh what how you doing? Jeff? Is is Jeff Trummel. Baby, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.680 thank you AUS for having me back. It's been a 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.560 long time left you without some dope cartoons and step 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.880 two Jeff, Mr Cartoon Network. Tramo head writer of Craig 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.919 of the Creek sometimes voice actor Creek. Yeah, thank you 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.440 guys for having me. Yeah. You were just nominated to 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:21.120 Yeah yeah, we got nominated for Outstanding Children's Animated Series 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.040 at the Daytime Emmys. So that's super cool. Are they 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.639 having the like how does that work? No? I think 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.920 it's I'll be like this doom. I would love it 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.280 if if like somebody loses and they just like end 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.480 there's they just walk out and just their screen just 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.600 goes to black. Need this anymore? I want to know 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.200 who my like if we get to go to the 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.680 Virtual Emmys, who my like box is going to be 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.520 next to? Like do I get to sit next to 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.160 like Steve Harvey or somebody at the Joy Emmys or whatever. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.200 That would me and that would be a nice box 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.560 to be next to. Oh my gosh, I want to 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.960 see because then it'll also be showing like people's homes. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.800 I'm so nosy. I want to like see you'd be surprised. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.920 Some people are like, yeah, yeah, see you or have 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.040 wildness showing, Yeah, all that wildness and all that. Like 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.040 I totally see that. Like when they do SNL from home, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.080 you're like, oh, you can definitely tell who's been on 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:26.720 SNL how long some of them some of them bets. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.479 I'm like, oh, there's a lot of space here. Also 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.400 some people just like it's so funny because you can 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.119 see you have a bunch of art behind me and stuff. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.000 We all do. Actually I can see in our places. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.200 But like the people that just have a blank wall, Yeah, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.640 that cracks me up to it's just like this massively 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:48.160 like plane. I'm like, wow, really artistic. Yeah, don't. I 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.919 don't need nothing. I don't need nothing. You see the 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.960 big old light my ice cream dog right there, and 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.200 that's I always try and get that in frame. We've 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.800 been doing zoom calls for super Punch on TBS, another 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.040 head Turner a Venture uh, and they'll, you know, I'll 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.680 zoom call in. And I've just been putting different things 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.960 in the background. And I have this giant Elizabeth plush 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.120 from Gettama and it was just sitting back there the 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.720 whole the whole episode. I'm like, well, you know, they 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.240 didn't tell me to move it, so I'm gonna put 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.880 it back there. So I'm gonna see how much wild 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.760 stuff I can just fit behind me without them calling 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:30.560 it out. Um, Jeff, we normally start our episodes with 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.400 what we're seeking out about. Do you have anything or 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.200 artists or creators or shows or movies or books or 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.520 anything that you're kind of geeking out about right now? Okay, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.320 let's see. I've been seeking out a lot about Static Shock, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.000 one of my favorite shows. I've been rewatching it I 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.000 talked about on the podcast lately. I keep messaging Matthew 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:57.240 Cherry about it. Uh in is full. Yeah, it's just 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.120 me being like, hey, can we do static? Can we 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.000 do static? And he's like, I don't even own that, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.320 are you? He and I were like talking about my 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.360 pilot originally when I first sold it, and then when 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.920 his oscar happened, it suddenly was like nope, his inboxes full, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.880 like doing other things with bigger people. It's cool because 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.599 he's a Craig fan, which is kind of nuts. So 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.840 he's messaged me about Craig, which is really cool. But um, yeah, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.000 so I'm speaking out about Static always forever, I'm speaking 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.680 out about Spy Family. So mom, I'm reading. That's super 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.279 super good, highly recommend to anyone who likes manga. Uh. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.159 I don't want to spoil it, But did you say 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.840 Spy Family? Yeah? I was just about to pick that 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.200 one up. It's good. You should check it. Yeah, I'm 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.840 not gonna spoil it, just okay, I think you'll like it. Well. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.119 On that Static shock, I have a whole I should 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.200 send it to you so you can see what I 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.320 was thinking. But I had a whole treat and I 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.120 sent because I met with this production company that did 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.880 all of the like at the time, like d C 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.000 like on you know how they have their like platform 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.240 and I sent like the static treatment, but it's like 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.520 and it was one thing that like I was like, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.040 you have to meet with me if you if you 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.119 do it, because there's one like, uh change I made. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.960 And I was like, I know, I know what I'm 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.559 talking about because in the you know, in the show, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.880 his um his father you know, was alive and his 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.240 mom passed and she was like a paramedic, and then 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.880 her father was a cop. And then I wanted to 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.520 flip it where his mom is alive and then the 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.880 father is a cop and then play with you know, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.120 police brutality that way instead of having like this cop 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.840 on the show. That's like, you know, I'm one of 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.320 the good ones, son So you know, it was just 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.960 trying to trying to get dark and just so DC 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.840 could be like, no, like we like all all this 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.200 except this, um but yeah, that's tight um me. You know, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.200 I'm geeking out about you know, keeping keeping the theme straight. Uh, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:00.280 Spider Man Miles, Uh you know that that that was 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.640 a super dope reveal, uh. And what a roller coaster 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.920 because Sony open their mouth and said that it was 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.760 just a DLC and and insomnia. Holo holol No, no, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.200 don't let Nope, Nope, they had to try. They have 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.280 to stop that train because people were getting ready to 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.280 light there. They have no light of up. They have 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.840 to be like old. Nope, that is not true. It 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.200 is a full game. It is aful So I'm super 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.440 I'm super excited also because you know, by the looks 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.120 on it, it's an older Miles, and I don't think 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.480 we've really got to see much older Miles, like all 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.800 the Miles of in high school. So I I that's 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.840 that's the fun I am because there is like a 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.559 fun in seeing teen teen Peter Parker and then adult 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.560 Peter Parker. So I'm so excited to see what adult 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.720 Miles is. And I pray, pray, pray they have black 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:58.800 people on the writing team of Adult Miles. Yeah, I wanna. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.000 I'm gonna use this as a side bar for um 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.960 for video game writing, because there's something that's been scratching 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.120 at the back of my head since, uh since I've 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.640 played it. But um, Life is Strange to Life is 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.440 Strange is really good, Uh, you know, narrative video game series, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.880 and Life is Strange too follows um a a half Mexican, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.880 half white um kid whose dad is killed by the 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.760 cops and they're on the world. No, his dad is 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.520 killed by a cop and his son like uh kills 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.040 him and like like accidentally kills the cop trying to 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.040 protect his dad, and they go on the run and 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.640 the whole game. The way life is strange works is 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.000 you make a series of decisions and like you get 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.520 different um you get different uh endings based on how 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.160 many quote unquote good or bad decisions you make, how 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.520 many aggressive or passive ones you make, and the you know, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.800 I went through it totally in with my own emotions, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.600 with my own views on racism, and in the end 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.080 still like had good relationships stuff throughout, But in the 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.480 end I got the quote unquote bad ending in the 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.640 sense that because I was I wasn't passive whenever there 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.160 was a racist situation, Like if someone was racist, they 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.440 got clapped, like like as simple as that, like it 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.120 like and and and and and it wasn't even like 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.760 I was just just cavalierly killing people. But if they 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.080 were being racist and putting my life at risk because 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.360 of it, I defended my I chose the chance to 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.640 defend myself and not do that, and in the end 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.120 you get the um the ending where like you go 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.079 to Mexico. You make it because your whole the whole game, 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.040 you're trying that You're coming from Seattle trying to go 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.760 to Mexico because you know you have family down there, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.400 and in the end, if you do it that way, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.800 you make it to Mexico. But you're like these crime 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.960 brothers who like have have like are like the boss 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.920 and you're like the head of of of the crime thing. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.720 And then like the one I watched, all the endings 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.640 and the good ending is that the brother has the 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.600 older brother ends up you know, going to prison for 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.520 that for that crime of accidentally killing the cop, coming 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.440 out years later. And then the brother goes on a 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.080 camping trip. He has like PTSD from being in prison 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.000 and all the experiences they have, and then they then 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.600 the him and his little brother go separate ways. So 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.360 technically the bad ending is the only ending where the 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.560 brothers are together. But that's like the one that's the 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.480 the you know, marketed quote unquote bad ending. And I 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.640 was like, this is how you know it was written 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.880 by white people, because the only good option is turning 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.600 yourself in, like you you, it just shows you how 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.960 you view the police completely differently. For you to think, oh, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.320 that's the only way out is because the major final 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.160 choice you make it and this is spoilers if you 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.520 haven't played so go ahead, is you're at the boarder 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.960 and there's this like social worker who's been working with 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.040 you who's like, this is your last chance. You gotta stop. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.960 You choose to either ram through or you you get 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.960 off the car and turn yourself in. And there and 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.200 it's really cool because that it's not just two choices. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.679 If you were aggressive and all your choices and I 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.320 learned this and I'm glad it didn't pick and you 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.760 chose to turn yourself in based on my aggressive choices, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.440 he would have ran through and the older brother would 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.319 have died, and then it would have been an ending 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.679 where he kind of is in Mexico by himself holding 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.480 it down. Uh. So, like your your choices, your actions also, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.839 you know, depend on how the outcome comes. But it 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.080 still was like this is whack Like like I was like, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.640 you made so many good points about how like they 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.720 were making really good points about you. I think it 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.800 was such a good game for people to uh like 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.640 you really can't do it, but you know, kind of 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.480 give a short feeling of how racism feels and how 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.080 it affects how you talk with people. And then in 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.679 the end they just dropped the ball like that where 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.560 it's like, but you still should turn your cop yourself 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.720 into the cops. Also, sorry for taking the whole segment 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:57.840 to have this combo. Oh I'm not geeking out about anything. Um, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.319 I'll just like give shout out actually to my friend 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.599 Amanda Diebert who she just wrote her first ever a 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.120 hundred and forty page graphic novel, which is for DC 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.120 superhero girls. It's called Weird Science, just like on our 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.120 Nerdy d C which we which you all kind of 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.120 were mentioning. Um, yeah, so y'all can pick that up 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.040 for people of all ages, but definitely, you know, get 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.439 it to the younger crowd so they can they can 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.720 be a part of STEM with our superhero overalls. Yeah. Well, yeah, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.480 thank you, and sorry for blowing It's something that's really 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:36.839 been on my mind. I think I'm just going to 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.240 do a thread where I actually just fully go into it. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.800 But you should. Yeah, I mean there's so many times 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.400 when you even on this podcast have had the discussion 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.160 of times when we can tell that there were no 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:51.080 writers of color, writers specifically culture, because we just wouldn't 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.800 do that. You know, even different cultures are are separate, 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.280 and so it's just like you can tell. And what 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.120 I was gonna say is when you said I hope 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.480 that there's writers on the game, I hope there's animators 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:07.200 animate Like you know, black and POC. Animators are so 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.440 limit like they're just not they're there and they're not 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.640 given the opportunities in the same way. I think even 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.400 in the studios that I've been involved with, it seems 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.320 like you have to prove yourself. I mean, this is 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.440 we say this all the time, but literally stories of 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.640 people who were like lead story board artists for huge 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.120 movies not being allowed to direct, like that's typically the 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.440 next step, like just being told that they didn't pay 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.360 their dues even though they've been there for a decade. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.320 It's something all of us, I think could vent about forever. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:42.520 But it's insane, the hoops and obstacles even to be 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.800 an animator um on these properties. So again you'll see 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.760 a black or brown um character, but then you look 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.280 at the animators and they're all white, so it's it's 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.200 a mess. I mean, the one thing I'll say about 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.160 it is you can tell just how much diverse he 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.800 has needed when you see when you hop into um, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.840 when you when you hop into a create a character 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.360 and you and you stuck with you know, corn rows 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:16.040 or apro terrible. You know. Yeah, it's always like you know, 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:22.400 straight up ludicrous and too fast, too furious lovers. I 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.440 wanted to say, not all Latina's have huge boobs either. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.600 This is every video game. Some of us are just 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:35.400 a B plus and that's okay. Some of us have 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.400 have thickness in other areas, which our thighs and our 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.960 booty and not just up top. Some of us have both, 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.760 but not all of us. Okay, representation matters. Yeah. So 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.760 um Ted Turner, which if you are referencing and I 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.440 feel like it's a really um popular famous name um 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:59.400 is he actually got the his company from his dad 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.920 who left him. He unfortunately committed suicide and Ted was 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.440 left like trying to take over this this company, which 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.680 was really fascinated because he ended up taking a lot 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.160 of risks. So Ted actually sold off radio stations and 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.680 bought a TV station. He bought w j r J 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.040 in Atlanta, which eventually became w t B S, which 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:27.000 had old movies, sports and cartoons. So Ted ended up 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.040 launching CNN and it was a twenty four hour news channel, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.640 and that was wild to people at the time. People 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.960 were like, why would we need to watch the news? 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.840 But that formula for CNN ended up lending itself to 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:46.960 Cartoon Network, which became a twenty four hour cartoon channel. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.080 So when Ted bought MGM, I mean he was just 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.080 taking over. He got all of their cartoons. And then 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.800 when he bought all the w B movies, he got 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.200 all the cartoons from Warner Brothers. So that was like 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.119 Bugs Bunny, all the Loony Tunes. So you can understand 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.399 why he would need Those are hundreds of cartoons, right, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.280 hundreds of titles, and so that's why he was like, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.439 I need my own channel that just airs all of 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.920 this property that I have, so a little bit more 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.840 of the backstory, and he purchased Hanna Barbera and that 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.680 was it, right. It was that they have Scooby Doo, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.440 they have Yogi Bear, they have the flint Stone Jet sins. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.359 I mean, it's like all those old vintage cartoons. So 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.560 this man was like the mastermind behind UH. And I 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.879 watched UH. I watched an interview with him where he 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:43.720 said adults watched cartoons too, because that was not commonly 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.399 thought of several decades ago, and he said more people 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:51.080 watch cartoons at night then CNN. So that is something 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.959 he realized and was like, I'm going to need a 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.280 channel that fully shows all the properties that I bought, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.439 all this money I put in UM. So that is 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:05.800 the story of how Ted Turner started Cartoon Network. Wow, 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.840 thank you uncle to hide ain't through. He was like, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.480 we in these tunes out, We're getting these tunes out. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.359 So getting the Cartoon Network the banger bar that Danny 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.240 totally missed when she was like the Seeing News Network. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.240 And then he was able to start a twenty four 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:32.400 hour car tune channel, Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network. But that's 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.480 because I was saving it for you. If he for 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.600 you on October one, which I know that you love 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.600 finding out how long since you were born for Yeah, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.240 we don't have to get into that, but that is 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:50.679 four years after me and Danny were born. In October UH, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.720 the Cartoon Network launched the finale of Tartakovsky's uh launched 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.080 the finale of Tartakovsky's eighteen twelve or You're with the 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.720 backdrop of cartoon explosions, followed by a special event called 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.919 Droopy's Guy to the Cartoon Network, hosted by the MGM 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:11.160 cartoon character Droopy, during which the first cartoon on the network, 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.320 Rhapsody Rabbit, was shown. So that was that was real nice. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.160 Then the late Night Black and White showed early black 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.800 and white cartoons mostly from the Fleshers Studios and Walter 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.000 Lance like Witty the Woodpecker from the nineteen thirties and 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.720 Merry Melodies and you know the classics, and then tune 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.760 Heads would show three shorts with a similar theme provide 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.800 trivia about the cartoons. There was also an afternoon cartoon 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.040 block called high Noon Tunes, which was hosted by Cowboy 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.320 hand Puppets. An example of the like simplicity and imagination 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.720 of the network in its early years and the majority 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.680 of the class cannimation was that that was the majority 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.080 of the classic animation that was shown on Cartoon Network. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.720 No longer airs on a regular basis, but Tom and 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.119 Jerry and Looney Tunes still aired and lasted until seventeen. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.720 So yeah, I was run and so those running the 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.280 classic tunes while they're developing some new heat. Yeah. So 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.919 because Turner owned so many other channels, they could promote 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.840 Cartoon Network on the other channels. Remember, they were going 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.800 against Nicktoons. So Nicktoons, which we did our episode on, 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.719 was heavily realizing this formula of having kind of weird 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.160 experimental especially if you look at early Nicktoons, they really 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.119 allowed their creators to be weird and gross, which is 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.159 something that kind of came back but went away for 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.440 for about a decade um. So they were starting to 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.920 with a lot of the Cartoon Network commercials, they would 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.600 add this weird, awkward like modern spin on the vintage 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.960 cartoons and their first original show actually, so not just 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.200 the Vintage cartoons. The first original show was The Moxie Show, 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.560 but it wasn't really popular. So what a lot of 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:55.840 people consider their first big show April fift Space Ghost 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.680 Coast to Coast. It was a top of the hand 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.760 of bar They're a superhero. Uh. It was one of 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.800 their most original programming ideas and really made them stand 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.920 out like that set the tone then for the rest 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.880 of the channel was kind of like, oh, there's something 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:16.320 cool and funny an adult over here. Um, but did 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.600 y'all watch Space Ghost Oh? Yeah, I was. I was 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.280 big in a Space Ghost The brack was really funny, Uh, 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.000 just what they turned into and just and it was, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.600 you know, I think my first introduction to like, you know, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.920 bits and though and like when characters, you know, when 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.120 when just the idea of like, you know, what each 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.680 character is going to do, how they're gonna react. And 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.320 it was just so funny this concept that they really 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.520 kind of I feel like, focused on the reality of 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.560 of like what would it be like if this character 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:55.199 was was you know, was was making this late night 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.639 show with his enemies and and it was just my 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.600 favorite the one. Yeah, I watched a lot of Space 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:07.480 Gosts a little bit later because, um, I'm just slightly 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.280 younger than you guys. I was far in nine four, 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.520 so I wasn't allowed to watch Space Ghosts despite my 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.240 protests now, but I do remember eventually watching Space Goals 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.520 and one of the things, uh, that is really interesting 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.880 about it is they would premiere other shows on there 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.680 that would later become Cartoon Network shows. The first time 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.640 we see the Powerpuff Girls is on Space Goals, Um, 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.720 which is kind of crazy, and they had a different 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.200 title that I don't think I can say on this 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:41.639 program because it's not eg but you know, like Space 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.960