1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Welcome to the deal. 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Jason Kelly here with my partner Alex Rodriguez. Alex, 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna get to our interview with Michael Kay. Of course, 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: play by play legend for the Yankees. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: So much to talk to him about. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: I've got some things I want to ask him about you, 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: about the Yankees, and lots of other stuff. He's had 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: an incredible career from growing up in the shadows of 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium to now being literally the voice. He was 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: the voice also on Saturday that a lot of people 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: were hearing when you went back to Yankee Stadium for 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: a very big moment. It was so awesome to watch 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: from afar. Tell us about it, tell me what it 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: was like. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason, I wish you were there, because I know 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: you were there with family a few weeks ago. But 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: it was It's really an incredible afternoon, an incredible weekend 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: for that matter. I was flooded with unexpected emotions or 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: fifteen years feels like fifteen seconds, and it's. 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 4: Just really cool and interesting. 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: There's something that happens to grown men, I guess grown 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: people when you win something so big, so special for 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: a city, especially in plays like New York City, and 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: to do it with all your guys and to be 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: basket in those great memories. 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: It was so much fun. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: And so this was the coming together, just to make 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: sure everybody knows. So this was fifteen years since the 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine World Series, the last time the Yankees, 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: one last time they even played in the World Series, 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: if I'm correct about that. And we can talk about 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: the Yankees in a second, but I want to stay 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: with you. You know, going back to Yankee Stadium is 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: always I don't know if it's tricky, but like it's weighted, 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: it's weighty. What were you feeling as you, you know, 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: sort of walked out and walked into the crowd, walked 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: up the dugout steps. 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: Right, when I was in a dugout steps, I was 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: kind of just joking around with Mariano Rivera and a 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: few of other guys, and I. 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: Was flooded with emotions. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean, even going back to the torture and the 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: agony of defeat versus the Red Sox in two thousand 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: and four, just five years prior to that, after being 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: up three to zero in that series and then losing 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: four in a row, and then you cut to five 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: years later and. 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: Just a thrill of victory and to be able to lock. 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: It down and close that World Series against the Philadelpha 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: Phillies who had won the championship in eight the prior year, 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: it was incredible. And obviously to get a nice ovation 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: a Yankee Stadium. I haven't been back in a while. 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: It was like a dream come true. 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: You were nice enough to share with me that before that, 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: before you came out, you were in the clubhouse with 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: the team, and not just with the team, but with 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Derek Cheters. He's been a guest on this show. We 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 2: talked a lot about your relationship over the years. That 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: feels like a very big moment. It's one thing for 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: him to like sit and chop it up with us, 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: but to be, you know, sort of officially together in 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: the clubhouse. 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: What was that like? 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nice. 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: You know, Boone in and the hitting coaches asked us 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: to talk to the hitters, and I walked in with 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: their Jeter and Horror Pasad and the three of us 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: just spoke to them for about twenty or thirty minutes 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: and kind of just went over really sometimes in a 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: long season, Jason, you need to hear a voice outside 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: of like mom and dad, which are your manager and 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: your pitching. 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: Coach and your hitting coach. 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and when they hear from a different voice and 76 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: they're hearing exactly the same thing, it just brings a 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: lot of reassurance to the players and coaching staffs. And 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: hopefully we were able to cement the thought process and 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: our message was short, it was tight, and basically, they 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: have all the talent in the world. They just have 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: to figure out a way how to play hard, how 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: to compete, and how to eliminate, you know, the little 83 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: mental mistakes. And there's no doubt that they can win 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: a championship this year. 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: All right, So you're feeling good about this team because 86 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I look around, I watch the games, 87 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: I talk to people. 88 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: They're making it hard to love them sometimes, this Yankee team. 90 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: I think they have enough talent to win. 91 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: I think their biggest opponent is themselves, right, And the 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: one thing you can control is to play hard every 93 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: single night, which you know they have not done that 94 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: thus far this year. But Derek had a great message 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: is whatever the numbers are to this point. 96 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: That's it. 97 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Those are going to be your numbers. Maybe two percent here, 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: two percent there. The only thing that matters is why 99 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: we're here fifteen years later is winning and winning a 100 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: championship in New York is vital and that's what they 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to do. 102 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: All right, So before we get to Michael Kay, just 103 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: give me thirty seconds on Michael Kay, because this guy 104 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: you've known forever. You knew of each other before you 105 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: came together. You hosted a show called Kay Rodden Alternate Broadcast, 106 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: and he made some big calls over the the course 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: of your career. 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Michael Kay is one of the most 109 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: important members of the Yankees family in there's Zeichgeist. 110 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: I mean, if you know, probably the. 111 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: Most important person not named Aaron Judge, because he's a. 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: Guy that he's a legacy connector. 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: You got to understand when he was in his twenties 114 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: and now he's above in the other side of sixty. 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: He started as a New York postwriter, then he went 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: to the Daily News, and then he went to MSG 117 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 3: and he's kind of done it all. But he's grown 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: up in the shadows of Yankee Stadium. He's like the 119 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: single most authentic fan. He just happens to be really 120 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: great at his job and be the voice. But when 121 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: you think about a guy that can say I introduced 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: Joe Demajo, Yogi Bearra, Reggie Jackson, Lou Panela, Derek Cheeter, 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: he's the one guy that can connect all those dots. 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: He's an incredible person and for me personally, I'm just 125 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: a big fan. 126 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: Of his work. Both as a player when. 127 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: I had big moments, I wanted him doing it because 128 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: no one does the big moments better than Michael Kay, 129 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: but also just someone that is a soothing voice that 130 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: is very habitual and you know, recognizable. 131 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 132 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: Well, and we're going to ask him about the calls 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: he made and one particular call that he didn't make 134 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: much to your chagrin. 135 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: Yes, and it has to do with something like five hundred, 136 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: but we'll leave it right there. 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: We'll believe you that. 138 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: All right, coming up, Michael Kay. 139 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: All right, So now we're going to bring in Michael Kay. 140 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: I've so been looking forward to this conversation, mostly between 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: the two of you. This is going to be super fun. Michael, 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us. I'm going to start 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: by asking you how long have you known this guy. 144 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: When do you recall first meeting Alex, Well, he was 145 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: definitely with. 146 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: The Seattle Errors. So that's a long time. So it's 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 6: over over thirty years, right, Alex beautiful. 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: So let's go back there, mean, let's go back to 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: your college days. You grow up and you go to school, 150 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, practically in the shadow of Yankee Stadium. When 151 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: did you know that that's what you wanted to do? 152 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: And when did you know that you were actually going 153 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: to get a chance to do this for a living. 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 6: Well, those things are separated by a lot of times. 155 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 6: So what I wanted to be the Yankee announcer. I 156 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: was nine years old and I was very rational even 157 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 6: as a child. So when I realized that I could 158 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 6: not simply hit and I was afraid of getting hit 159 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 6: by the ball, I knew I was not going to 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: be the Yankee first baseman. So I wanted to be 161 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 6: involved in the Yankees in some way because I loved 162 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: the Yankees. There were years, like when I was nine 163 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 6: or ten or eleven, that I watched or listened to 164 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 6: every single Yankee game, much of the chagrin of my parents. 165 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 6: So that was at nine years old. I wanted to 166 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 6: be the Yankee announcer. But you know how many kids 167 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: want to be, you know, the Yankee announcer. But that 168 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 6: was that was the dream. Now in terms of when 169 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be a reality. While 170 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 6: I was at school, I had fallback plans. I started 171 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: to write as a sports editor of the newspaper at school, 172 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 6: and I got into you know, I worked at the 173 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: New York Post. 174 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 7: So I just didn't think it was very a real 175 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 7: viable thing at that point. 176 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 6: But then once I became a writer covering the Yankees, 177 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 6: I was the rain delay guests all the time on radio, 178 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: and I tried to like always make myself, you know, 179 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 6: the expert on the Yankee so when they needed me 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 6: on radio or TV, I'd be that guy. And I 181 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: could start to see the germination of maybe that happening. 182 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 6: And I by traveling with the Yankees when I was 183 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: their beat writer, I kind of got rid of the 184 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 6: accent a little bit, and I think that that's when 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 6: I started to think, well, maybe maybe, with a lot 186 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: of luck, that this could happen. 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: So Michael, we've talked about this offline, and you know, 188 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: just for listeners some point to know that we're very 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: good friends. 190 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: And I always ask you what kind of writer you are? 191 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: You like a Tom Berducci, Are you, like, you know, 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: one of the greatest writers? And I think your answer 193 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: was very honest. You said I wasn't the greatest writer. 194 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: I was always a good writer, and I could write fast. 195 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: But I'm paraphrasing, so I want you to correct me 196 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: and keep me honest here. But I had a nose 197 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: to get information. People just felt comfortable by the way 198 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: company included I will tell you a lot of stuff. 199 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: What was it about you that was able to get that? 200 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: And do you think your work as a journalist has 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: helped you on television, because I'd never even say you 202 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: don't say or you're always on point. 203 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: I definitely think it's helped me because I still do 204 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 6: this day, Alex, even when I'm doing a baseball game. 205 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 6: I try to approach it as a writer or a 206 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 6: journalist with that kind of thought in terms of I 207 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: don't think I was a great writer by any stretch 208 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: of the imagination, and I'm not being humbled at all. 209 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: I got the words down, and the newspapers you had 210 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 6: to get them down in a certain amount of time, 211 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 6: get them in. It was important not to miss deadline. 212 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 6: I never missed deadline. I was always the fastest writer 213 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 6: on the staff. But my strength was as a reporter. 214 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: I got people to tell me things. And I think 215 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 6: that what you see from me on TV, when you 216 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 6: hear from me on radio, what you're seeing right now, 217 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: this is not an act. This is who I am. 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: Alex knows me forever. I'm not different on TV than 219 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: I am in real life. So when I'm talking to somebody, 220 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 6: I think they just get comfortable. And I'm not trying 221 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 6: to be a phony. I'm not trying to be too 222 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 6: face to get them to tell me stuff. I'm just 223 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 6: curious about things. So my curiosity, I think gets people 224 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 6: comfortable and gets them. I get them to draw out 225 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 6: a little bit and probably say things that maybe they 226 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: didn't want to say. And that's why one of the 227 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 6: things that I'm most proud of is the center Stage 228 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 6: show that we used to have on Yes and kind 229 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 6: of derailed because of COVID. Because when you have an 230 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 6: hour to sit down with somebody and it's not about you, 231 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 6: it's about them, and you're listening and you're actually curious 232 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 6: about their life, I think you could get them to 233 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: tell you really interesting things. And I can't tell you 234 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 6: how many people that we had on that show that 235 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: at the end of the show would say, boy, I 236 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 6: told you things I never ever thought I would even 237 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 6: talk about because you just got comfortable. Snoop Dogg told 238 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 6: me this is the best interview I've ever done in 239 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 6: my life. He told me that three years after he 240 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 6: actually was interviewed. So all of that stuff made me 241 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 6: feel good. And I think I bring that curiosity and 242 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 6: almost that wide eyed innocence into everything I do because 243 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 6: I really do care what people do for a living. 244 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 6: I want to know how did you get here, how 245 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 6: did you become successful? Because I want to apply that 246 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 6: to my own life as well, not only to do 247 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 6: the interview, but actually the use it in my life. 248 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: You know, I do wonder going back to this kind 249 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: of transition to the booth, it's a really interesting moment, 250 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: not just in your career, but sort of in the 251 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: history of broadcasting. Jerry Cardinal was a guest on this show. 252 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: He obviously was pivotal and creating Yes Network. Tell us 253 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: about that move to the booth, not just for you, 254 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: but also kind of what it meant for Yes Network 255 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: to sort of come onto the scene. From a business 256 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: perspective and from a broadcaster's perspective, well. 257 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 6: The first move to the booth obviously was to the 258 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 6: radio side. So I covered the Yankees for five years, 259 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: two for the Posts and then three for the Daily News. 260 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 6: And during that time, the MSG network got the rights 261 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 6: to the Yankees, so I pitched to them. 262 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 7: You know, it's weird that. 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: The biggest news is always broken in the newspapers because 264 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: the newspapers before the Internet, it was always a day 265 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 6: behind real life. I said, you're on the air live 266 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 6: with our postgame show with Al trowing. Let me go 267 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: on the air, go into the clubhouse and tell you 268 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 6: why that guy threw that pitch, why that guy struck 269 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 6: out on that pitch, why he hit a home run, 270 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 6: and put it on the air immediately, because TV is 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: the medium of immediacy, and they actually bought it, and 272 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 6: that was my entree into getting a regular gig. And 273 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 6: I was lucky because the Deli News allowed me to 274 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 6: do it, and their only thing was don't break news 275 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 6: on the TV because it was still paying you for 276 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: the newspaper. So that was my foot in the door, 277 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 6: and I became kind of looked at as an authority. 278 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 6: And then when John Sterling, his partner left on the 279 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 6: on the radio side, they were looking for somebody to 280 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 6: work with him, and they had like five thousand applicants. 281 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 6: I mean, being the Yankee radio announcer is a big 282 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 6: deal and some wow, I got the gig. 283 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 7: So I worked with John for ten years. 284 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what, Jason, if that was the 285 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 6: only job that I ever had, I would have been thrilled. 286 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 7: If I would have been an old man and retired. 287 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 6: And just doing radio, I would have been thrilled because 288 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 6: I had reached my goal of being the ache announcer. 289 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: Then they started they S Network, and I just think 290 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 6: that the formation of the S Network, it was so 291 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 6: forward thinking by George Steinbrenner, and I think that has 292 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: changed the entire landscape of the regional sports networks. 293 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 7: And it showed organization. And Alice can speak of this 294 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 7: as well. 295 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: There is something there that you could make money just 296 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 6: off your team and own the rights for yourself and 297 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: produce your own games. 298 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 7: I think, yes, change is a whole game in that. 299 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean that you're exactly right. Did 300 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: it feel like that in the moment. I mean, obviously 301 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: that's again a big moment for your career. But also 302 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: did it feel like you were doing something historic or 303 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: were you just sort of like doing your thing and 304 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: it was happening around you. 305 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: What was the feeling of the moment. 306 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 7: Well, the feeling in the moment that it was. It 307 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 7: was definitely big because you could see they put a 308 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 7: lot of money into it. 309 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: I mean, they did not short shrift it at all. 310 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: It was big time right from the very beginning. They 311 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 6: didn't scrimp on. 312 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 7: Coster at all. Whatever. But there's one funny story, like 313 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 7: Alex I grew up really really poor. 314 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: All right, So I was on the radio and I 315 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 6: was making a nice living. And my mom at that point, 316 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 6: so we started YES in two thousand and two. She 317 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: must have been she was in her seventies. And the 318 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 6: first year of YES, we weren't on cable vision and 319 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: my mom lived in a cable vision area, so she 320 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 6: couldn't watch the Yankees. And every time I come over, 321 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 6: I try to drop by every day and she'd be 322 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 6: sitting there. She goes, what an idiot, you gave up 323 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 6: the radio. Now you're not even on TV. I said, Mom, 324 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: I am on TV. She goes, you're not on my TV. 325 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 6: You gave it all up. A nice job, you had 326 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 6: a job you could have kept for years, but you're 327 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 6: a big shot. 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 7: You had to go for the big, big thing. 329 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: And now, look, I said, man, just give it time. 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 6: So at that point I didn't feel like it was 331 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 6: that very big. But then the next year when it 332 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: was settled then the games were on cable vision, I 333 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 6: think she felt a little bit better, and you could 334 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: just see that it was such a big deal around baseball, 335 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 6: and I think other owners were jealous as well. So 336 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: at that moment, when we got total clearance on all 337 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: the cable systems, we knew that it was something big. 338 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: So, Michael, one of the things that I love about 339 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: the Yankees, and I know you do too, is that, 340 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: and I think this comes from George Steinbrenner. The longevity 341 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: of the employees of the team members have been there forever. 342 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: And I saw it this weekend. 343 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: Most people have been there for twenty twenty five, thirty years, 344 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: whether it's Sonny or Debbie or a lot of the 345 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: support staff. My question to you, is you still going 346 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: to When I hear you every night is like you're 347 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: twenty one years old. 348 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: You're so excited you have. 349 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: So much gratitude to still be the voice of the Yankees. 350 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Where do you get that appreciation and how do you 351 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: do it? Because after so many years, it's like day 352 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: one for you. 353 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 7: Well, thank you for that. And I think that's important too. 354 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 6: I hate any guy or gal in a job that 355 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 6: phones it in, you know, it just takes it for granted. 356 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: And you know, I've got longtime friends, most of my 357 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 6: real close friends of people that I met in Collins, 358 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: like Mike Breen. I've always told them, if you ever 359 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 6: hear me complain about this job, just slap me right 360 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 6: in the face, because this is a special job. This 361 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: is a once in a lifetime opportunity. And you know what, 362 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 6: there's things that. 363 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 7: You give up. 364 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 6: Would I like to spend even more time with my family, 365 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 6: of course I would, But this job allows me to 366 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 6: make things possible for them that they wouldn't have if 367 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 6: I didn't have this job. 368 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 7: So everything in life is a trade off. 369 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: And every day walking to booth, Alex, and I've told 370 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 6: you this when we did the k Rod stuff, I 371 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 6: just look around, even if it's for a couple of seconds, 372 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 6: and I realize. 373 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 7: You're pretty lucky. 374 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 6: You're big headed freak You're pretty lucky that you're here 375 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 6: every single day, so I never take it for granted. 376 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 6: And I think it's important to provide to the fans. 377 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 6: When they tune into Yankee Baseball, they're tuning in to 378 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: get away from the realities of life and all the 379 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 6: things that are going on. That's their escape, and if 380 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 6: the guy that's on the air is not happy to 381 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 6: be there, it's going to bleed over to them. So 382 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: I never want them to feel that way. And really, 383 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 6: short answer to your question, I know how lucky I am. 384 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I never take it for granted, so I do. 385 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: I'm pumped up every time I'm on the air, even 386 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 6: if I'm tired, But once that light goes on, I know, Wow, 387 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 6: you're a pretty lucky guy to have this job. 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: I feel the same way about my job, and I 389 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: know Alex does too. So it's nice to hear that 390 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: that is how you feel, because it does come through. 391 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: As Alex says, all right, let's talk about k Rod. 392 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: That was the collab that you guys did together. Take 393 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: us back to how that came about Michael and what 394 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: it was like doing it. 395 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 7: Well, I loved it. 396 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: It's one of the favorite things that I've ever done 397 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 6: in my career, and Alex was so easy to work with. 398 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 6: And you know the way it came about was, as 399 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 6: far as I know, I was being considered for Sunday 400 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 6: Night Baseball. I ended up not getting that it wasn't 401 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 6: anything I applied for, but you know, I was being 402 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 6: considered to maybe do the play by play, which Alex 403 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 6: was also in the booth for, and that that wasn't 404 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 6: that it didn't it. 405 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 7: Didn't work out. 406 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: And then I got a call from Norby Williamson and said, 407 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 6: would you be into doing like an alternate cast where 408 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 6: you know, it is Sunday Night Baseball. We do eight 409 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 6: of them and it's going to be you guys interview people. 410 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 6: And I said, well, who would I be working with? 411 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 6: And he said it would be it would probably be 412 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 6: Alex Rodriguez and I said that'd be great. And as 413 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: he said, I said, that'd be great the k Rod broadcast. 414 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 6: He said, what I said, k Rod? He goes, you 415 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 6: just came up with that. I said, I said, yeah, 416 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 6: I said it just fits. I mean it used to 417 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 6: be the met reliever they called him k Rod. This 418 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: could be k Rod And he goes, well, I'll have 419 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 6: to run it past Alex. I don't know if he'd 420 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 6: liked that you got your name first, I said, Rod 421 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: k doesn't work. So I have very, very very fond 422 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 6: memories of both of those years. And and you know, 423 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: once Alex signs an exclusive deal with Fox, I knew 424 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 6: that that show had ended, but I miss it. 425 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 7: I missed it. 426 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: This is the first year without doing it, and all 427 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 6: the time I think about, I'll see it would be 428 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 6: so fun to do a k rat to today's show. 429 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 6: But you know, I guess all things must pass. 430 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jason, my experience was very similar. I honestly 431 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: felt like Mike when I need a ski mask. The 432 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 3: fact that they were paying us to hang out with 433 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 3: one of my best buddies, it was absolutely incredible. I'm like, 434 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: what a gig, what a country? 435 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: So Michael, speaking behind the scenes, I also sort of fascinated. 436 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: You've said a couple of times that you know, there 437 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: are jobs that you got that you didn't even essentially 438 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: apply for or even raise your hand for. Tell us 439 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: about your career path in that regard and sort of 440 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: how you've made key decisions. You know, obviously there are 441 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: times when you put yourself out there, but there are 442 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: other times when you were people just valued your work 443 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: and then said, you know, here's another thing or here's 444 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: another op oportunity. 445 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: How have you navigated that well? 446 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 6: I think unfortunately, I don't say this with any recognition 447 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 6: for any young person. I think a lot of this 448 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: has to do with being selfish. And I didn't get 449 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 6: married till I was forty nine years old, and a 450 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: lot of these decisions that I made that led to 451 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 6: what you might say is my success. I didn't have 452 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: to make it thinking of a wife, and I didn't 453 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 6: have to make it thinking of children. If I had, 454 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 6: I don't think I would have left the radio to 455 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 6: the S network, because that was a gamble. Was the 456 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 6: YES Network going to actually be a long term thing. 457 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 6: I would have stayed on the radio. I might have 458 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 6: stayed on newspapers just to know, Okay, you're going to 459 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: have a steady paycheck. So I guess the fact that 460 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 6: I never wanted to be married until I met my wife. 461 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 7: Jody, that that probably helped me along. 462 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you talk to a lot of 463 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 6: kids in colleges and I said, well, you know, how 464 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 6: did you do this? And I wish I had some 465 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 6: kind of great answer for them. So much of it 466 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 6: is fortune, So much of it is luck, just being 467 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 6: in the right place at the right time. But the 468 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 6: one thing I always do tell people, and this is 469 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 6: the one thing that I'm a big proponent of, and 470 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 6: I tell my kids as well, never punch a clock. 471 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 7: Never worry about your work. It too long. You got 472 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 7: to work. 473 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 6: I think there's so many people in the world that 474 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 6: have similar levels of talent. I mean, there's an outlier 475 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 6: like a Bob Costas out there all the time, but 476 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 6: most people have the same talent level, give or take 477 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: you know, a smach And when it's time to get 478 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: moved up or it's time to get a promotion, the 479 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 6: people that are doing the promoting are always going to 480 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: be the ones that say, Wow, that guy works hard. 481 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 7: You know. 482 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 6: People can't hit like Alex Rodriguez, or they can't throw 483 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 6: like Alex Rodriguez, but. 484 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 7: They could play as hard as Alex Rodriguez. 485 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 6: And I think that's the one thing that you control, 486 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 6: control the controllable, and that's effort. And the one thing 487 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: I will always give my employer is top effort. I'm 488 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 6: always going to work as hard as I possibly could. 489 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 6: So again, long answer to your pointed question. I just 490 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: think selfishness in terms of the fact that I made 491 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: all these decisions just for me, and then once I 492 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 6: got married, I was in these jobs and I didn't 493 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 6: have to worry about that. 494 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 7: But now I could see how it. 495 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 6: Would have fet you because I had these two great jobs, 496 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 6: a radio show on ESPN and the Yankee Gig on Yes, 497 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: but my son is nine, my daughter's eleven, and I 498 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 6: do want to be a big part of their life 499 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 6: growing up, and at some point I think I'm going 500 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 6: to have to give something. 501 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 7: Up in order for that to happen. 502 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 6: So that was the decision I never had to make 503 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 6: when I was single, and I think that's important. 504 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 3: So Michael, I want to take you back, call it 505 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: thirty five almost forty years when you were just a 506 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: young lad and you were writing for the New York 507 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: Post or the newspaper industry, and at that time you 508 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: had like the rap pack where you had like Bob Clappage, you. 509 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: Had Jack Curry, John Hayman, Joel Sherman. 510 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: You guys were like rock stars walking around, really smart, 511 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: really competitive. You would drink, you can drink all night, 512 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: but then you're competing a health. 513 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 4: For the best story the next day. I thought that 514 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 4: was fascinating. 515 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: But take our listeners back to, like, approximate how much 516 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: were you making on your first paycheck back in those 517 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: days when you were in your mid twenties. 518 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 6: Well, when I finally became the Yankee beat writer for 519 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 6: the Post, Alex, I think, I think I got like 520 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 6: forty five thousand. 521 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 7: Dollars a year. 522 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: Wow. 523 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 6: And you might look at that and go, well, that's 524 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 6: not that much, But believe me, that was more than 525 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 6: my dad ever made. That was more than I dreamed 526 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: that I would ever make. And I thought, wow, this 527 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 6: is unbelievable. And I remember I broke a lot of 528 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 6: stories at the New York Post because at that time, 529 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: Billy Martin was the manager and for some reason, he 530 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 6: took an incredible liking to me, and he hated he 531 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: didn't like Bill Madden of the Daily News, so he 532 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 6: would give me every single story just so that Bill 533 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 6: Madden would get beaten and the Post would put him. 534 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 7: On the front page. 535 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 6: And I remember I kept going to the Post and said, 536 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 6: you know, I should be making more money. I'm giving 537 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 6: you guys all these front page exclusives and stuff like, oh, this. 538 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 7: Is all we have. This is all we have. 539 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: And I remember one day I'm walking out of the 540 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 6: Yankee Stadium and it's about one in the morning, and 541 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 6: Mike Lupik is walking out with me, and he would 542 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 6: doubt columns for the Daily News and you know the 543 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 6: Yankee parking lot. When you were crossing the old stadium allege, 544 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 6: I saw Billy Martin's carr there. 545 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 7: It was one in the. 546 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 6: Morning, and I said to Mike, I said, I gotta 547 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 6: go check. I'm sorry, I gotta go check. I said, 548 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 6: something's up, just my reporter in town. I went up 549 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 6: and I went back into the into his office and 550 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 6: he was sitting there drinking, and he told me he 551 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 6: was going to quit the Yankees because the umpires were 552 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 6: holding their hatred of him against his team and he 553 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 6: couldn't have that. Well, I ran back to the press 554 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 6: room and I wrote this story and it was on 555 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: the front page, Billy wants to quit, a big story taken. 556 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 7: All around the country. Huge. 557 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 6: And then the next day Mike Lupeka went to the 558 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 6: publisher of the Daily News and said, we got to 559 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 6: get this guy. 560 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 7: Wow, no matter what, we got to hire this guy. 561 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 6: And so at the end of the year they promoted 562 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 6: Bill Madden to the baseball columnists and they hired me 563 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 6: from the Post. I couldn't believe it. To this day, 564 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: I still can't believe it. They offered me ninety two 565 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 6: thousand dollars. Wow, they doubled my salary. And then all 566 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 6: of a sudden, the Post said, well, we'll match it, 567 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 6: and I said, no, I asked you for years to 568 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 6: give me a raise and you didn't do it. I'm 569 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: not going to play the Dai News against you. They 570 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 6: made me this offer, I'm going to go there. So 571 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 6: that was like a big deal in the industry because 572 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: it also helped other writers because I was making I became. 573 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 7: Like when a Rod went to Texas Jason. 574 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: I changed the salary structure a little bit because I 575 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: got all this money to go to the daily news, 576 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 6: which is kind of a cool thing. 577 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 578 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: Well, and to that end, I mean, first of all, 579 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: that is an amazing parallel. 580 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 7: It. 581 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: I know how much you study. 582 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: First of all, you're a fan first, and I think 583 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: that that's what you're able to predict what the fans 584 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: are thinking at all times. And I mean you're usually 585 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 3: nine or ten out of ten, which is phenomenal. But 586 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: is there other guys are the same job that you do, 587 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: pass or present, that you look, that you study, that 588 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: you admire from afar. 589 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I always say, you know, I had 590 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 6: a sister, I didn't have a brother, so and then 591 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 6: you know my dad and I always said that there 592 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 6: were four male voices that were heard in my house 593 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 6: growing up, th Rizudol, Frank Messer and Bill White. I 594 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 6: know you were a Met fan, but they were like 595 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 6: Murphy Nelson and Kener for you. So I don't think 596 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 6: I modeled myself after any broadcaster growing up. I mean 597 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 6: I looked at the success obviously of Marv Albert and 598 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 6: you know the way he handled big moments. I look 599 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 6: across town. Gary Cohen is just excellent. You know how 600 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 6: he broadcasts for the Mets. We've kind of run on 601 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 6: parallel tracks the same years that we've worked and stuff 602 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: like that. I look at him and I think he's amazing. 603 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 6: There's a lot of guys around baseball, like I love 604 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 6: Vin Scully. John Shomby is amazing, you know with the 605 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 6: Chicago Cubs. There's so many great announcers in our sport. 606 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 6: And you know, you don't steal, but you try to 607 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 6: take a little bit out of everybody. 608 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 7: So my son was a big, big consumer of all 609 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 7: the all the calls. 610 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 6: That they put up on social media after games, and 611 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: like I hear him, Like he can be sitting next 612 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 6: to me on the couch and he's playing him and 613 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: there could be like little nuances in a call that 614 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 6: I hear and I go, oh, maybe I'll tweak that 615 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 6: a little bit and use it for myself. I don't 616 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 6: look into this stealing. I look at it this borrowing. 617 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think there's so many great people in 618 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 6: our industry, and I try to take a little something 619 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 6: from all of them. 620 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, I know Alex would love to rewrite history and 621 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: go back and have you call his five hundredth He 622 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: told me, he told me that earlier that he wished 623 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: he could redo that, he wished he could hit that 624 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: win again. 625 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 7: Okay, so Jason, here's the deal. And I told Alex's 626 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 7: to his face. The guy took forever to hit the 627 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 7: five hundred home run. I finally had a day off 628 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 7: and he decides to jack on the left field that day. 629 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 7: If he had done a lot sooner, I would have 630 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 7: done it. 631 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: But again, he just kept waiting and waiting and waiting. 632 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 6: And I didn't make the call, but I did make 633 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 6: the call in a six hundred, and I did get 634 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: his last one, a six ninety six, so that makes 635 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 6: me feel good. 636 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 7: And I got his three thousand as well. 637 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: That's true. 638 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. 639 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: And I know where I. 640 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 7: Was too, walking in Central Park and like I got 641 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 7: my phone buzzed and said, Alex Rodriguez, sis is five hundred. 642 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 7: Almost threw the phone in the fountain. I said, yeah, 643 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 7: of course, thanks Alex. 644 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he needed. 645 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he needed the pressure off of you making the 646 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: call to actually it all ties together. 647 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: It all ties big bumber in my career bag bummer. 648 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Alex. We want to be 649 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: respectful of your time, Michael. So we're going to move 650 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: to our lightning round, so this will be quick. We'll 651 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: bounce it back and forth. What's the best piece of 652 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: advice you've received on deal making or your business? 653 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 6: Know your value and you know I got some of 654 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: that from Alex Rodriguez. Don't think that you're not as 655 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 6: valuable as you really are. You should know exactly what 656 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 6: you do for company, and you should be uh renumerated 657 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 6: in that way. 658 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: What's the worst advice you've ever received. 659 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: I was told like the you know, sometimes if you're 660 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 6: in a tough negotiation role. 661 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 7: This I know this is a lightning round. But I 662 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 7: talked with Scott Boris, who used to represent Alex, and 663 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 7: you know, we talked about he never represented a broadcaster, 664 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 7: but I have a good relationship with Scott, and he said, well, 665 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 7: i'll you know, maybe I said, maybe you could represent me. 666 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 6: He said, well, if you do, if that ever happened, 667 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 6: if I tell you to walk away, you got to 668 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 6: walk away. 669 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: I said, no, no, no, no, no, you don't walk 670 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 7: away from the Yankees. 671 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: I said, you could walk away if you're one of 672 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 6: seven hundred players and you know that there's going to 673 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 6: be bidding. You don't walk away from the Yankees. So 674 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 6: that was probably the worst. 675 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: That's good, that's really good. 676 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 7: All right. 677 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: So you can't say Alex is an answer to this. 678 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: Who's your dream broadcast partner, dead or alive? Who would 679 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: you want to be in the booth with if you 680 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: could pick anyone? 681 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: Oh man, I really love the people I worked with. 682 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: It. 683 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 7: Yes, I know that's a cop out, so I won't 684 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 7: go that route. And I you know, I idolized Vin Scully, 685 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 7: but Vin Scully worked alone, so I don't know if I. 686 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 6: Get any works in edgewise. It'd probably be fun to 687 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: work with. You know, I have an unbelievable respect for 688 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: Joe Buck. I would probably like to do a game 689 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 6: with Joe Buck. 690 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: Michael, what's your hype song before a big game? 691 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: Well, let's see, you can think I'm corny. I love 692 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: building a butter cup. That always puts me in a 693 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: good move. But probably for baseball it's glory days. 694 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 5: Ah. 695 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: Nice, Nice, I already think you're corny. 696 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: Mike gol just just just the same. 697 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 7: They played that song. I'm like, what to build me up? 698 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: Bud Ah? 699 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: That's great, that's great, all right. 700 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: And finally, what's your advice for you know, folks who 701 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: can't be Alex Rodriguez who want to work around baseball, 702 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: what should they be doing? 703 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 6: All I can do is give advice maybe on being 704 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 6: a broadcaster. Never turned down an opportunity to be on 705 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 6: the air wherever it is, whatever it is, whether it's 706 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 6: a podcast or it's a five thousand radio station, just 707 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 6: be on the air as much as you possibly can, 708 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 6: because that's that's the most important currency that we deal with. 709 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 7: And again and I'll shoot it. 710 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 6: That is, never let anybody, anybody in the world out 711 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 6: work you, because that's the one thing you can control. 712 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, this has been so fun. 713 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: I was really looking forward to en I know Alex 714 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: was too because he knows you so well. You know, 715 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: it's one of these voices that's been in my head 716 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: for so long, and you're written words as well. So 717 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: thank you so much for the time. We really enjoyed it. 718 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 6: Thank you guys. It was a lot of fun. And 719 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 6: Alice gets get Krot back together somehow. 720 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Michael, and I just want I wanted to say 721 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: thank you for obviously being on our show. You're a 722 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: great friend, and really thank you for a very emotional 723 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: weekend for me coming back to Yankee Stadium. Your incredible 724 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: introduction as usual, it's like we've got the band back together. 725 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: Made it very memorable for me and my girls. Thank you. 726 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 7: I'm glad and I was so happy for you. 727 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 6: The reception you got it was amazing and I thought 728 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: the reception was incredibly, incredibly warm. 729 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 7: You could speak to that better than me, but I 730 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 7: was happy for you. 731 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, Michael. 732 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: The Deal is hosted by Alex Rodriguez and Me Jason Kelly. 733 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: This episode was made by Stacy Wong, Annamasarakus, Lizzie Phillip, 734 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: and Victor Evez. 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