Speaker 1: As media.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Sorry I was doing I was doing Robert. It was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm I did it first. I'm always the
Speaker 1: first to be Robert. If you don't count that guy
Speaker 1: who produced The Godfather, I don't. But other than him,
Speaker 1: no other Roberts anywhere.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are saying this. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying saying you're you're.
Speaker 3: The only Robert. You're the only Roberts, right, that's right.
Speaker 1: You would have met one if there was another, and
Speaker 1: if you have met one, you're a liar. Anyway, Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards a podcast about bastards, and this week
Speaker 1: about the Queen of Canada, Romana did Youlo prop Jason
Speaker 1: Petty our guest, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm here, man, I can't wait to talk about here.
Speaker 2: That swhere.
Speaker 4: She's the Queen of Canada, Commander Canada, Queen of Canada,
Speaker 4: the Canada, First Party of Canada or Canadians.
Speaker 1: If someone if someone came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: I'm the commander in chief and you have to do
Speaker 1: what I say, I'd say, I'm simply not in the military, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I would probably know her roommate would be like, oh word,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Will yeah yeah, probably realistically like oh, your majesty excellent, great.
Speaker 4: Do you want some coffee? Because I was gonna make
Speaker 4: some coffee.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, ship, you got that royal money.
Speaker 5: Guess that means we can upgrade.
Speaker 3: To you know, you know, get Yeah, guess we're getting
Speaker 3: that that that dope TV package.
Speaker 1: Like when we leave, we finally afford ESPN. Oh no,
Speaker 1: of course we can't afford it. Even even a royal
Speaker 1: salary can't pay for ESPN. The queen had to fucking
Speaker 1: pirate that ship.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's talk about this great grift, well, not that
Speaker 1: great grift, this kind of like shockingly mediocre and lazy
Speaker 1: grift that works way better than it ought to.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: In any con like Romana was pulling, there's usually the
Speaker 1: initial grift.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: There's the play someone is intentionally making when they start
Speaker 1: down the road of declaring themselves the Queen of Canada
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, yeah, there's like, this is my immediate
Speaker 1: plan for how I am going to make money or
Speaker 1: make you know, I sell famous or whatever improve my
Speaker 1: situation by lying about this thing, right, And then that
Speaker 1: initial grift either they achieve it, you know, in some cases,
Speaker 1: they meet their initial goals, and then they have to
Speaker 1: figure out, well, what am I going to do next?
Speaker 1: In some cases the initial goals prove impossible, but they
Speaker 1: get saying anyway, what there's the initial grift, and then
Speaker 1: there's what the grift grows into over time as the
Speaker 1: leader and the followers become less and less more to reality.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: That's also the factor is that I think cult leaders
Speaker 1: in general, especially the ones who say I'm an alien,
Speaker 1: I'm the real incarnation of Jesus, you know, I'm the
Speaker 1: secret King or the secret Queen. When it's that sort
Speaker 1: of thing where I am this kind of person or
Speaker 1: being that I couldn't possibly be, everyone believed that in
Speaker 1: those cases, especially the cult leaders generally start more sane
Speaker 1: than they end up. And it's kind of like getting
Speaker 1: crazy rich, right, if you get billions of dollars, suddenly
Speaker 1: you go from I have to interact with the world,
Speaker 1: and my experience in the world is a mix of
Speaker 1: what I want to do and what other people want
Speaker 1: and how society is set up. And so there's times
Speaker 1: where I have to compromise. There's times where I have
Speaker 1: to do stuff I don't like, like go to the
Speaker 1: DMV or stand in line at the TSA, because that's
Speaker 1: just life in society, right. And then when you're a billionaire,
Speaker 1: all that shit goes away. You get to opt out
Speaker 1: of everything everyone else does. Life is just a series
Speaker 1: of what you want in any given moment, and nobody
Speaker 1: can ever like challenge you or question you, And so
Speaker 1: you grow increasingly unmoored from reality and crazy as we're
Speaker 1: all watching happen in public to all of the billionaires
Speaker 1: who run our society. Right, yeah, stop telling you know,
Speaker 1: exactly the same shit happens, probably in a more accelerated
Speaker 1: and even more aggressive way when all of the people
Speaker 1: around you are playing into this delusion that you're Jesus
Speaker 1: or a queen or a king or something, right like
Speaker 1: where you are pretending to be some sort of supernatural,
Speaker 1: infallible being and one hundred percent of the people you
Speaker 1: talk to on a day to day basis are all
Speaker 1: buying into it.
Speaker 2: Like that damages your brain more? Yeah, not trying to.
Speaker 1: Make it, Oh, the poor cult leader, but it's like, objectively,
Speaker 1: they lose their sanity the longer they do this, because
Speaker 1: it's bad for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's like like I think, I think
Speaker 4: you use the right word of like this is it's
Speaker 4: it's objectively breaking your brain. Yes, yes, yeah, you're just
Speaker 4: you are losing a complete grip. And yeah you can't
Speaker 4: not know when you put you a little single out
Speaker 4: for your new your new uh you know, uh techno
Speaker 4: DJing career. You know what I'm saying that, like you,
Speaker 4: this song is objectively trash.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, if I were to start a cult
Speaker 1: where I convinced people that I was some sort of
Speaker 1: divine figure, I would also do like a part time
Speaker 1: job at a Barnes and Noble or something, just that
Speaker 1: I had something outside of the cult business that I
Speaker 1: would like go to and like be around. And that
Speaker 1: way you can stay, you can keep yourself one step
Speaker 1: ahead of the fence. Right, You're not going to lose
Speaker 1: your mind too much. You know, every cult leader go
Speaker 1: out and get a part time job doing something normal,
Speaker 1: you know, if you really want your cult to go
Speaker 1: the distance. Anyway, just some free advice for the cult
Speaker 1: leaders out there, I.
Speaker 2: Feel it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The backup plan has to be solid enough to where
Speaker 4: you can maintain pieces of the grift, right, you know,
Speaker 4: and somebody might follow you there.
Speaker 1: But like you have to keep knowing what reality is
Speaker 1: enough to avoid the pitfalls of reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not. Yeah, you're not ended up.
Speaker 4: You're not ending up in the you know, the John
Speaker 4: McAfee situation you gave me, like exactly.
Speaker 1: He's a great example, right, but he went too far.
Speaker 1: He bought into too much of his bullshit, and the
Speaker 1: world was not willing to float his delusions any longer.
Speaker 1: All right, Whereas you compare him to the goat, right
Speaker 1: to l Ron Hubbards. Where as crazy as he got
Speaker 1: and as many nuts things as he convinced people to believe.
Speaker 1: L R H always knew. Time to get in the boat,
Speaker 1: time to leave. I got to get out of this country.
Speaker 1: Fucking loss coming for me. Time to bounce.
Speaker 2: I'm out. Listen, let's go to the boats for the boats.
Speaker 2: Hit the boats.
Speaker 3: You calling l r H the Goat will never not
Speaker 3: be funny.
Speaker 1: He's the no one has ever been a better cult
Speaker 1: leader than Alight Like he was the king of it.
Speaker 1: He's so good at being a cult leader.
Speaker 4: You know the fact that like it still exists, Like
Speaker 4: that's the crazy part about.
Speaker 1: What he was in l a last week or like
Speaker 1: three days ago, and I ran past the Scientology building.
Speaker 2: It's still here. It's huge. It outlived his legacy like
Speaker 2: that next.
Speaker 1: To l Ron Hubbard Boulevard.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At that point you have to like, no, you're the goat,
Speaker 4: like we all every documentary, every expos we all know.
Speaker 2: But it's still sitting right here. I'm like, you win,
Speaker 2: you win, bro. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, he did it, he did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So uh.
Speaker 1: Sartaghi Christine Sartaghi's rite up gives us the best insight
Speaker 1: into what the original con that Didulo was going for
Speaker 1: might have been.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: An investigation bi logically revealed that Whiplash three four seven
Speaker 1: was one of the two main Telegram Hub channel leaders
Speaker 1: involved in recruiting individuals to invest in fraudulent cryptocurrency tokens,
Speaker 1: described by experts as a large and well organized Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 1: Whiplash is the guy who like first backed Ramana from
Speaker 1: the q and On world. Okay, this ponzi scheme netted
Speaker 1: the scammers approximately two million dollars. The nature of Didulo's
Speaker 1: affiliation and a relationship with Whiplash three four to seven
Speaker 1: remains unclear. So again we don't know why this guy
Speaker 1: got in bed with her, but he was. He's like
Speaker 1: a crypto Ponzi scammer, and my guess is that was
Speaker 1: the original plan or something like that for some sort
Speaker 1: of Ponzi sket well, and she was involved too, where
Speaker 1: he was like, look, if you can get some juice
Speaker 1: behind you, we can sell your followers on some bullshit
Speaker 1: and split the money. That would be my guess. I
Speaker 1: don't know. My guess is something like that. Was it
Speaker 1: because of who this whiplash person is, that he's a
Speaker 1: Ponzi scam guy, and because there's no other reason for
Speaker 1: her to have suddenly started supporting did Julo's claims other
Speaker 1: than he thought maybe she had the juice to get
Speaker 1: a following and he could wrench a bunch of money
Speaker 1: out of her followers. That's the only thing I can
Speaker 1: think of, right, I don't know, but that would make
Speaker 1: sense to me.
Speaker 2: Not having any idea what crypto is either, but anyway.
Speaker 1: Right exactly and just listening to whatever this guy says totally.
Speaker 1: As the summer a twenty twenty one began, Romana Didulo
Speaker 1: added the title sovereign to her name, so her full
Speaker 1: honorific was sovereign, head of State and Commander in Chief
Speaker 1: of the Sovereign Republic of Canada. Again, you don't need
Speaker 1: sovereign twice love it a head of state implies sovereign.
Speaker 1: I would say head of State and Commander Chief the
Speaker 1: Sovereign Republic of Canada. Sure, but love it's weird to
Speaker 1: do it the other way. Canada and there are as
Speaker 1: you might guess, there's some sovereign citizen stuff mixed into
Speaker 1: this too. She's also part of that community. Some of
Speaker 1: her language, especially around like debt cancelation, is very sobset.
Speaker 1: She refers to Canada, the government of Canada, the illegitimate
Speaker 1: one is like an illegitimate corporation that's ruling Canada. Very
Speaker 1: sovereign citizen adjacent stuff, which is getst an American sovereign
Speaker 1: citizens should be very wrapped up in America and American law,
Speaker 1: but they're all over the world because all you need
Speaker 1: to do is just make a bunch of fake court
Speaker 1: papers for whatever country you're in and convince people, you
Speaker 1: know anyway. Okay, so she announces as soon as you know,
Speaker 1: this is in her first year as being the Queen.
Speaker 1: She starts announcing a bunch of new policies like any
Speaker 1: new world leader does. Right, you start putting out, here's
Speaker 1: the big policies I'm going to do. These all sounded
Speaker 1: crazier in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. They
Speaker 1: now just sound like actual policies of the US government
Speaker 1: because she withdrew Canada from the United Nations, with drew
Speaker 1: Canada from the WHO, and canceled all foreign aid. Advised
Speaker 1: your followers, So first off, we're just doing Trump stuff here, right,
Speaker 1: Like maybe I mean Trump's doing.
Speaker 2: To do this stuff, right, that's who's her off as, right, right.
Speaker 1: She advised her followers to prepare for a complete and
Speaker 1: total worldwide shift in financial systems. The world now lived
Speaker 1: under the quantum financial system, which in brief meant that
Speaker 1: everyone who believed in the quantum financial system got a
Speaker 1: bunch of free money. And if you were poor and
Speaker 1: riddled with debt under the old we'd say real financial system,
Speaker 1: under the quantum financial system, you're suddenly rich. Right, And
Speaker 1: that's the me and the other white hats are replacing
Speaker 1: the global economy with the quantum financial system, and now
Speaker 1: all the poor people have money, right, that's the idea.
Speaker 2: Love it. I am as the father of two daughters.
Speaker 4: The amount of times I've had to sit down and
Speaker 4: eat and get paid money and eat you know, imaginary meals,
Speaker 4: and you just have to go along with it. Hm,
Speaker 4: this tastes so good and it's just a shredded piece
Speaker 4: of paper.
Speaker 1: I had so much imaginary tea.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is definitely given that. So my
Speaker 4: first thing is I am outlawing chores. Okay, baby, Okay,
Speaker 4: no more, no more chores. And all all grown ups
Speaker 4: have to eat vegetables for everyone.
Speaker 2: Okay baby, that's your new laws.
Speaker 1: Wait sure, yeah, absolutely sure, And that's you know I
Speaker 1: We can talk about how the laws should be. I
Speaker 1: do think that all grown ups should have to eat
Speaker 1: the vegetables.
Speaker 2: I agree with that of her late vegetables.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we're not gonna agree in this because I'm a
Speaker 1: bedtime abolitionist, prop very anti bedtime.
Speaker 2: That's a dude that ain't got kids. Let me take something.
Speaker 2: You're damn right now. It's incredibly pro bedtime.
Speaker 1: Yes, So this nonsense she's peddling about the quantum financial
Speaker 1: system has its origins in another series of episodes we've done.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. I did a two parter
Speaker 1: on Nessra and Jesra in E sar A G E
Speaker 1: s A r A, which is an old conspiracy theory, right,
Speaker 1: and it's an economic one. And Neessara and Jesra started
Speaker 1: out as a real series of economic reform propositions in
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. This was the origin of this is
Speaker 1: there were some actual attempts to reform our economic system
Speaker 1: that people misinterpret, and it becomes by the late nineties
Speaker 1: early two thousands, this conspiratorial belief that all there's going
Speaker 1: to be a debt jubilee, so all debt will be
Speaker 1: canceled and an economic reset, right, which is a super
Speaker 1: first off. In order to just kind of because we
Speaker 1: talk a lot about how silly conspiratory beliefs are, and
Speaker 1: they are, I want to peel back a little bit
Speaker 1: because wanting to believe very badly in a debt jubilee.
Speaker 1: It's not only as like I understand why people would
Speaker 1: want that, but that goes back really far. It's pretty
Speaker 1: the roots of Judaism in a lot of ways. There's
Speaker 1: lots of Deuteronomy, not that that's the right, but in the
Speaker 1: roots of Judaism, there's a lot of talk about debt jubileeze. Right,
Speaker 1: it's all over the Bible. This this would used to
Speaker 1: be a thing. And part of it was if you've
Speaker 1: got a new king. This wasn't just a thing that
Speaker 1: happened in the Judeo Christian world. Right, if you got
Speaker 1: a new king, and the new king, as often happens,
Speaker 1: maybe came to power through a little bit of conflict
Speaker 1: with whoever wasn't charged before, or the new king really
Speaker 1: needs to establish and get like the support of the people.
Speaker 1: All your debts are clear, no one owes anything anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: this used to It wasn't universal, but it happened a
Speaker 1: lot because it's a smart way to get people on
Speaker 1: your side. Yeah, yeah, so everyone's credit card debt. If
Speaker 1: a guy became the president was like, all your debts
Speaker 1: are canceled. How would you feel about that president?
Speaker 2: I'd vote probably better than you knew about the cars president.
Speaker 2: I'd vote for his third term.
Speaker 4: It's also like the preposterousness of saying that America is
Speaker 4: four point nine trillion dollars in debt. You're just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's okay, zero, come on zero, dude, Like it's not
Speaker 4: what do we.
Speaker 1: Not call that? I mean Europe theoretically could call some
Speaker 1: of that like right, like, that's part of the problem
Speaker 1: with us fucking around their allies is But also realistically,
Speaker 1: who's gonna do that. Who's going to do that and
Speaker 1: just nuke the global economy right now? Maybe in the
Speaker 1: future when people have uncoupled themselves from the dollar, but
Speaker 1: it's not good for anybody anyway.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: I find this all interesting just because this is there's
Speaker 1: a really old desire to believe in stuff like this,
Speaker 1: and it's a huge part of There's all sorts of
Speaker 1: different expressions of this. Adjacent to and underneath the Maga movement.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of talk within QAnon people about
Speaker 1: an economic reset. There's even this side belief that, like,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, people should be collecting Iraqi dnars because
Speaker 1: Trump was about to like revalue the dnar and it
Speaker 1: would suddenly be worth a bunch of money for again
Speaker 1: weird conspiratorial reasons, but like a bunch of white people
Speaker 1: in the Midwest were buying like old Iraqi currency and
Speaker 1: their belief that it would make them rich one day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so man, people in Iraq don't even want
Speaker 1: to take dnr. I had to spend money there and
Speaker 1: I usually spent dollars in euros. You know, nobody wants
Speaker 1: the fucking DNR avoid it. And a big chunk of
Speaker 1: like what gets taken out of Nessa and jess or
Speaker 1: this older conspiracy theory into the modern era is this
Speaker 1: idea of a debt cancelation. It's prominent among MAGA people,
Speaker 1: prominent among you know, the Q movement, and that's what
Speaker 1: she's tapping into. And it's a tantalizing proposition for desperate
Speaker 1: people living on the margins, who are always the people
Speaker 1: most likely to find themselves drawn towards cults. Right, Romana
Speaker 1: Didulo's teachings found their audience followers had reasons to convince
Speaker 1: themselves she was legit, including the fact and this is
Speaker 1: my favorite is once people decide they believe in her,
Speaker 1: they have to work backwards to try to find evidence that. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's all sorts of clues that she's legitimate,
Speaker 1: and one of the chief ones is that her name
Speaker 1: Romana Digulo is an anagram for I am our Donald,
Speaker 1: like I am the Canadian Donald.
Speaker 2: That's seriously enough proof for some people. Good stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow, it must be so whimsical to believe in the
Speaker 1: world the way you do.
Speaker 4: Wow, man, these people are at the red light next
Speaker 4: to you, like these are.
Speaker 1: Yes and they these people are the well not in Canada,
Speaker 1: but in the US. They're allowed to buy all the
Speaker 1: same guns you are, which is not great.
Speaker 3: Yes, their votes count as much as yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part doesn't matter because voting isn't real.
Speaker 2: Sophie.
Speaker 1: Uh, the mushroom aliens inside Mount Shasta control all of
Speaker 1: our elections. But you know, let's continue with this.
Speaker 3: I am our Donald, I am our Donald.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for years, Sophie. You are our Donald.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find it pagram for Sophie's night before.
Speaker 1: This is Donald Sutherland. I assumed we were talking about.
Speaker 1: I've always considered you the Donald Sutherland of cool Zone media.
Speaker 3: At first, I like miss Herd and I thought you
Speaker 3: said Donald Sterling and I got real scared.
Speaker 2: That is good. Keep it that way, sir.
Speaker 1: But I know who Donald Sutherland is because I just
Speaker 1: watched him in a not very good movie.
Speaker 3: Donald Sterling would be a great Bastards episode.
Speaker 2: Actually, he'd be a great Bastard's I'll feel like you
Speaker 2: should leave that one.
Speaker 1: Sophie put them on the list on the list.
Speaker 3: The list that never dies.
Speaker 1: Yes, So to get back to romana once you start
Speaker 1: to feel as a cult leader, like you might as
Speaker 1: a fledgling cult leader, right, Because she's spent months now
Speaker 1: building her telegram, she's got tens of thousands of people,
Speaker 1: she's getting traction. People are talking about her right within
Speaker 1: the Q movement, but she hasn't met any of them
Speaker 1: in person. She's not like I think she's taking some
Speaker 1: donations now, but she hasn't made a bunch of money
Speaker 1: off of this. I think this is the point at
Speaker 1: which you have to kind of make a plunge. Am
Speaker 1: I just someone who's created a weird little Internet community
Speaker 1: or do I really have a cult here?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And so if you want to answer that question, the
Speaker 1: next thing you got to do is stretch your muscles.
Speaker 1: So in June of twenty twenty one, she starts ordering
Speaker 1: her followers to hand out and by stretch your muscles,
Speaker 1: I mean try to get your followers to do things
Speaker 1: in the real world before you take the plunge into
Speaker 1: like follow me. We're all gonna live together, and you
Speaker 1: need to give me all your money. You got to see,
Speaker 1: can I get them to do anything other than like
Speaker 1: hang out on my telegram, right, yeah, yeah, it's smart,
Speaker 1: it's smart. She's got a basic Again.
Speaker 4: Man, maybe maybe your song had a cool little TikTok audio,
Speaker 4: but like you can't you can't sell.
Speaker 2: A concert ticket.
Speaker 1: You're going to have a career, So yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to test that shit out first, and yeah, totally. This
Speaker 1: is part I sometimes feel as I study these because
Speaker 1: I never know, you never get none of these Very
Speaker 1: few of these cult leaders ever admit to like, and
Speaker 1: I spent years reading about other cult leaders and how
Speaker 1: they did things that I would know what to do
Speaker 1: when I, you know, my time gave. They never say that.
Speaker 1: I assume some of them do. A part of me.
Speaker 1: I have this belief that there's it's almost like there's
Speaker 1: like a subset of Homo sapiens that's like like the
Speaker 1: cult leader, and some people are just born with a
Speaker 1: set of like instincts that makes them like real like
Speaker 1: because a lot of her behavior feels instinctual, like you're
Speaker 1: feeling out how to make and keep a cult going,
Speaker 1: how to grow it. I don't know. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: being the Jedi. Maybe it's like you've got enough Midi
Speaker 1: Chlorians and you can build a cult, right, And I've
Speaker 1: always said that On Hubbard was the Anakin Skywalker of
Speaker 1: American colt me. Anyways, he really is, including the fact
Speaker 1: that he got Ewin McGregor burnt his arms and limbs off.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that about l Ron Hubbard,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But you got Ewan McGregor to burn his yeah.
Speaker 1: Burne's limbs off. Yeah, on a volcano planet where he
Speaker 1: kept his mansion. Yeah, got it. Yeah. I sometimes mix
Speaker 1: up Darth Vader's law and l Ron Hubbard's law, but
Speaker 1: I think I've got it right this time. So when
Speaker 1: you start to think, you know, all right, it's time
Speaker 1: to get out into the real world, see if I
Speaker 1: can get my followers to do anything right. So in
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty one, she starts ordering her followers
Speaker 1: to hand out cease and Assist notices to local businesses
Speaker 1: with mask mandates, right, because she's really angry about the
Speaker 1: COVID mandates. She's angry at the lockdown. So she has
Speaker 1: her followers putting these up on businesses that require masks
Speaker 1: and basically anywhere that they'll get attention, and Sophie will
Speaker 1: put up on for the video version, you can see.
Speaker 1: Here's a copy of one of these cease and assists.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read it to you. Notice to cease
Speaker 1: and assist effective today, and there's a blank for the date.
Speaker 1: I am the witness of the law, serving you a
Speaker 1: lawful document Cease and assist order to stop immediately all
Speaker 1: unlawful COVID measures. This is very so sovereign citizen language.
Speaker 1: I'm a witness of the law, serving you a lawful document.
Speaker 1: We are now living in the sovereign Republic of Canada
Speaker 1: and are no longer in Canada Incorporated Corporation, which you
Speaker 1: get the doubling up on length Canada Incorporated Corporation. Huh,
Speaker 1: your business is operating in the Sovereign Republic of Canada.
Speaker 1: Are newly appointed Head of State, Commander in Chief, Head
Speaker 1: of Government of Canada Ramano Titulo, by lawful order requires
Speaker 1: that we resume our lives back to normal and open
Speaker 1: our businesses to full capacity. All former COVID nineteen measures
Speaker 1: and restrictions are unlawful, unscientific, and unjust and therefore invalid
Speaker 1: Nolan void. This means no more pandemic lie, no more masks,
Speaker 1: no more social distancing, no more temperature taking, no more lockdowns,
Speaker 1: no more quarantine or self imposed isolation, no more genocidal
Speaker 1: COVID vaccines, no vast vaccine, passport and ID chip. If
Speaker 1: you still enforce any of the former COVID measures on
Speaker 1: any leaving breathing man, woman, staff, and customers, you are
Speaker 1: violating the all caps universal human rights and are complicit
Speaker 1: in crimes against humanity and will be prosecuted by We
Speaker 1: the People, military tribunal under national law and common law,
Speaker 1: by the Head of State and Commander in Chief of Canada.
Speaker 1: And again it's this mix of it's all this American
Speaker 1: soft set language, the whole the fact that you're coming
Speaker 1: back to We the People. That's not a Canada, that's
Speaker 1: like a we the American people thing. Some of the
Speaker 1: she's a very international culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Some of the stuff also sounds like very much like
Speaker 4: an English second language type, like like you know, and
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I'm Sada Corporation, Canada Incorporate
Speaker 4: Corporation in Canada, First Party of Canada.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I was like it kind of sounds. It
Speaker 2: didn't hit me.
Speaker 4: It's all read it And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Movie that Garrison made us watch Eddington.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.
Speaker 3: Garrison, maybe watch that movie.
Speaker 1: Garrison can't make me do anything. I'll watch it one
Speaker 1: of these dates. I haven't gotten to it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: But yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh So her followers start handing these out right,
Speaker 1: and I know what you're wondering reading all this. Okay,
Speaker 1: if someone still continues to enforce mask mandates or whatever
Speaker 1: after getting the cease and assist, what are the penalties?
Speaker 1: So they say that you'll be prosecuted by we, the people,
Speaker 1: and the Queen. So how to talk about that. Here's
Speaker 1: a quote from one of mac Lamereau's Vice articles summarizing
Speaker 1: Romana's rhetoric and the dynamics of her community during this period.
Speaker 1: Let's keep this simple. Did you Low wrote recently, death
Speaker 1: is the penalty for crimes against humanity? This was met
Speaker 1: with much jubilation from hundred of followers. Yes, wrote one.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we have you, wrote another. She is
Speaker 1: the only one that is saying anything hopeful or anything
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It felt completely hopeless before Romana came along,
Speaker 1: wrote a third. As much as I hate to see
Speaker 1: people being put to death, it has become necessary because
Speaker 1: the jerks just won't stop what they're doing, wrote yet another. Yeah, yees,
Speaker 1: you get a lot there in terms of what's appealing.
Speaker 1: While this person's saying, she's the only one saying anything
Speaker 1: hopeful or anything that makes sense, because she's saying, your
Speaker 1: debts are all about to go away. All of the
Speaker 1: bad stuff that you think is genocide, the COVID stuff
Speaker 1: that's all going away, it's all been white aside. It's hopeful,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's so much of it is just
Speaker 1: you promise people something more instead of it you just
Speaker 1: reading the real news, which is often depressing and really complicated,
Speaker 1: and it's very hard to figure out how can I help,
Speaker 1: how can I do anything to fix things? Instead the
Speaker 1: Queen's just saying, all the bad people are being put
Speaker 1: to death for wearing masks, and your debts are about
Speaker 1: to go away. Just continue to listen to me and
Speaker 1: share my stuff online and send me money, and the
Speaker 1: world will be fixed.
Speaker 5: And how are we killing these people? What's her?
Speaker 3: What's her weapon? Like? What is she? What is she saying?
Speaker 1: Unclear?
Speaker 2: Put to death in secret?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but going Maybe it's maybe a psychic, maybe a
Speaker 4: psychic doing or psyched how.
Speaker 2: I do it.
Speaker 1: I psychically killing people all the time, you know, the.
Speaker 6: Time, dude, lyrically exactly, I think lyrically murdering people the
Speaker 6: Homo sapien joint like in as far as like that
Speaker 6: that gene to be a cult leader.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like even in listening it is, I
Speaker 4: think about this all the time, especially with like the
Speaker 4: politics stuff, is like it breaks people's psyche that there
Speaker 4: are some things that are just out of your control,
Speaker 4: that there is nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing.
Speaker 4: And I feel like COVID like really brought that out
Speaker 4: to where it was just like it's a virus. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it just exists like out of which like the Earth
Speaker 4: has viruses.
Speaker 1: And I get, you know, I haven't spent a little
Speaker 1: bit of time in war zones. I get how how
Speaker 1: people can wind up believing like, oh, I was like
Speaker 1: saying something nearly killed killed me, and it didn't and
Speaker 1: I saw other people died. I must have been saved, yes,
Speaker 1: because like I've had the experience of something like you know,
Speaker 1: I was sitting at a fucking checkpoint and the guys
Speaker 1: that I'd been smoking with drove off ahead of us
Speaker 1: and got blown up by a vehicle based ied, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I guess I could be like I was protected,
Speaker 1: but like within, why did God want those French people
Speaker 1: to do exactly what? God didn't protect this princess. Shoot,
Speaker 1: And I'm not really lucky, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think he picked me.
Speaker 2: No, some stuff just be what it is.
Speaker 4: Ship you know, happens, and I feel like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: some shit it's just and it's just and but but
Speaker 4: the need to tie up the loose ends and have
Speaker 4: a reason for and find out the source of and
Speaker 4: just like part of it is just like this, like
Speaker 4: even just them saying, man, the lockdown sucks. I'm like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 4: I know me too, what you want me to do?
Speaker 4: Like you're saying, like that's just what it is. Nobody
Speaker 4: wanted COVID, it just happened, you know. So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 4: I just think that like them looking for this answer,
Speaker 4: she'd the only one to make it sense, ma'am.
Speaker 2: She don't make sense at all. She's not making any sense.
Speaker 2: She's not making any sense. You just gave up.
Speaker 1: On comprehending the world because you got too scared and angry. Yes,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and that you see that too, where like
Speaker 1: I hate seeing people put to death, but the jerks
Speaker 1: just won't stop. First off, if you think a group
Speaker 1: of people need to be put to death for their
Speaker 1: crimes against humanity and you call them jerks, they probably
Speaker 1: aren't committing crimes against humanity when I talk when I
Speaker 1: talk about like when we talk about the Nazis, yeah,
Speaker 1: no one's ever like what a bunch of jerks. They
Speaker 1: really were some jerks, Like no, they were monsters.
Speaker 2: They tell you, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy. Saddam Hussein was a real jerk when he
Speaker 1: gassed all those Kurdish civilians. You know, Like it's just
Speaker 1: not the way we use the term. It's just silly,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that I SA agent was a real jerk
Speaker 1: for shooting that person in the head. Like, it's just
Speaker 1: not how you do it right. When you believe people
Speaker 1: should be executed, That's not how you talk about them anyway.
Speaker 1: It's very childish and very part of like language. Like
Speaker 1: that makes me almost wonder how much do these people
Speaker 1: really believe it or are they just like it's way
Speaker 1: more fun to spend my days pretending this is real
Speaker 1: than accepting the reality around me. I kind of think
Speaker 1: that is even more of it than I truly believe
Speaker 1: all these people have been executed, right, yeah, totally. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I'm maybe reading too much into it,
Speaker 1: but you know, who's never been executed for crimes against humanity?
Speaker 1: Prop which is an issue?
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's just.
Speaker 2: Go to ass.
Speaker 1: And we're back. So in November of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Romana posted an order for the King of Canada to
Speaker 1: the King of Canada's military on her telegram shoot to
Speaker 1: kill anyone who tries to inject children under the age
Speaker 1: of at nineteen years old with coronavirus nineteen vaccines, bioweapons
Speaker 1: or any other vaccines. This order is effective immediately. So
Speaker 1: again she gives a shoot to kill order for the
Speaker 1: military to kill anyone giving out any kind of vaccine.
Speaker 1: She follows up by editing shoot to kill to arrest
Speaker 1: because people do start. Is she trying to get people murdered,
Speaker 1: which she is, Yes, so she does alter that slightly,
Speaker 1: but she's going to also repeatedly talk about executing people.
Speaker 1: She writes, please use airports, hospitals, school stadiums, and other
Speaker 1: public venues to hold and detain all traders. They will
Speaker 1: stay there until military tribunal is held for each one
Speaker 1: of them until the day they are executed via firing
Speaker 1: squad or hanging. So, yeah, friend, kill all military. What
Speaker 1: the Canadian one, the one that she's commander in chief
Speaker 1: of obviously where well in Canada, you know, Yeah, telegram,
Speaker 1: you'll find out that's where. That's where all all military
Speaker 1: lawful military orders are always issued through telegram pages, you know. So,
Speaker 1: in that unique way the internet has her community developed
Speaker 1: their own name for the armed men that she wanted
Speaker 1: detaining and executing doctors and political leaders, which kind of
Speaker 1: does suggest that she's not in control of the military
Speaker 1: if you think that, like you need to develop gangs
Speaker 1: of guys to detain and arrest and kill all the doctors.
Speaker 1: But the community name for these people is duck Hunters.
Speaker 1: So whenever she refers to gathering her duck hunters, she's
Speaker 1: talking about the armed men that she wants to have
Speaker 1: murder all of the doctors and politicians who support masks
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: In a Vice article on the subject, mac Lamora posted
Speaker 1: irrelevant screen grab from her telegram channel. He spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time in there, which will be up on
Speaker 1: the video version now. But you see one of her followers,
Speaker 1: and it's worth noting her Telegram name is her Majesty
Speaker 1: all caps I am Queen Romana right, like you know,
Speaker 1: tag back to the whole I AM movement. She's using
Speaker 1: a lot of that language. One of her followers, a
Speaker 1: guy named Ron, says, all set, I can bunk a
Speaker 1: few duck hunters in my home. I'm all set to
Speaker 1: hunting gear ready, and then he posts a picture of
Speaker 1: several firearms on a countertape. Oh lord, yeah, several different
Speaker 1: rifles and stuff. So that's an actionable threat. When I
Speaker 1: was when I used to teach classes on counter terrorism
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, when I used to lecture, I
Speaker 1: would be asked a lot by like and this is
Speaker 1: you know, when I was a bellinkat, I was doing
Speaker 1: trainings primarily for like journalists and NGO employees. And the
Speaker 1: one thing I would get asked a lot, especially by journalists,
Speaker 1: because I'm talking people through all these telegram channels how
Speaker 1: to find and follow different groups and different individual like
Speaker 1: far right figures on telegram, which is still pretty significant
Speaker 1: place for them to organize, but at the time was
Speaker 1: even more of a hub. They would ask a lot
Speaker 1: like how do you know what to report on versus
Speaker 1: what not to report on, because it's a sea people
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to kill people and the guns that
Speaker 1: they have, and if you just you can't publish an
Speaker 1: article being like, and here's another Nazi with the picture
Speaker 1: of a gun saying he's going to shoot people. I
Speaker 1: don't know where, I don't know when, because that's not
Speaker 1: really like a story necessarily, and it also is just
Speaker 1: kind of riley because most of the people don't actually
Speaker 1: do any how. How do you tell if something is
Speaker 1: serious enough that you do need to start gathering more
Speaker 1: information report on it. One thing I would tell people
Speaker 1: is if you see a sign that someone or a
Speaker 1: group is starting to experiment with real world activism. So
Speaker 1: if you've got this group of peopley're talking about wanting
Speaker 1: to shoot their enemies, and they've started putting up flyers
Speaker 1: and papers rather than a neighborhood or whatever or something
Speaker 1: like that, or they've started showing up the well, then
Speaker 1: that's a sign maybe this group needs to be paid
Speaker 1: more attention to because they're starting to do stuff in
Speaker 1: the right Yeah. So when we've got do Dolo's followers
Speaker 1: going up to people that they see as targets, that
Speaker 1: they see as deserving of the death penalty and handing
Speaker 1: them cease and desists and also posting picture of their
Speaker 1: guns and talking about gathering. That's the point at which
Speaker 1: I would say, you need to take these people seriously,
Speaker 1: because there's every chance at least one of them is
Speaker 1: going to snap and do something tragic.
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, for somebody to take that her little Microsoft
Speaker 4: word little document, your cease and desisting, print it, sign it,
Speaker 4: and then go do the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you telling me something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's someone who might be willing to do something more.
Speaker 1: And that's a sign that a cult leader or that
Speaker 1: an extremist figure might have the juice to convince someone
Speaker 1: to do something. Yeah, right, because they're starting down that
Speaker 1: road already. In January of twenty twenty two, Romana Didulo
Speaker 1: declared all debts in the Kingdom of Canada were forgiven.
Speaker 1: Followers began to halt paying their credit card bills and mortgages,
Speaker 1: and she specifically encouraged this. She would even sometimes threaten
Speaker 1: people who like, we're still paying their bills, like not,
Speaker 1: she wasn't like following and people looking at the people's finances,
Speaker 1: but she would say, like, if you are still paying
Speaker 1: these bills. If you're still paying off your student loves,
Speaker 1: if you're still paying your utilities, that means you don't
Speaker 1: have faith in my government.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I was so frustrated if this was
Speaker 4: like my partner, like spouse, yeah, and you're just like
Speaker 4: you have to pay the mortgage, like I'm dumb with
Speaker 4: your little tearogram thing.
Speaker 1: And this is a huge This is something that one
Speaker 1: of the things that Mac did a lot of uh
Speaker 1: work documenting is as well as STESHI is like the
Speaker 1: number of people who stopped paying their bills and would
Speaker 1: start posting like, hey, we don't have any power and
Speaker 1: school's about to be back in session and I have
Speaker 1: a young son. I'm still not paying the power bill
Speaker 1: because I know we're not supposed to, but like when
Speaker 1: is the power going to get turned back on? Like
Speaker 1: when are you when is when are you going to
Speaker 1: be in charge again? Because I just feel like I can't,
Speaker 1: uh like, like my son needs to go to school,
Speaker 1: Like you can't go to school with that electricity in
Speaker 1: the house. You get stuff like that people lost their
Speaker 1: homes because they stopped paying their mortgages, like people got evicted.
Speaker 1: People I don't know if anyone died. But when you're
Speaker 1: talking about people cutting off heating or cooling in certain
Speaker 1: times of the year in Canada, that could get someone killed.
Speaker 4: You know that cold is evil up there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you could die.
Speaker 1: So we're now talking about someone who is like seriously
Speaker 1: endangering people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This went from funny to like quick you know
Speaker 2: or I was right? You ain't pay you Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to show you, guys an image that
Speaker 1: was from a like a study Christine Sartagi published on
Speaker 1: Romana Didulo where she's collected a bunch of different like
Speaker 1: posts people have made talking about how they've stopped paying
Speaker 1: their bills and utilities.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Read a couple. You can see like a clip of
Speaker 1: several of them here, and to read one or two
Speaker 1: of them. I stopped paying my power and hydro bills
Speaker 1: when directed by QR that's Queen Romana. Yeah, and last
Speaker 1: month they shut off my utilities. I've been without power
Speaker 1: during some of the hottest days I've ever felt. To
Speaker 1: add to the stress, my oldest cat passed away yesterday
Speaker 1: and I suspect it was due to the heat. I
Speaker 1: don't know what more to do. I can't keep waiting.
Speaker 1: I need power. I've been charging my phone and using
Speaker 1: the Wi Fi at the Neroon McDonald's in the meantime. QR.
Speaker 1: Early this year you said that Canadians do not need
Speaker 1: to pay for utilities. Recently you've stated that it would
Speaker 1: be considered a war crime to turn off utilities. When
Speaker 1: do these royal decrees start to take effect? I've had
Speaker 1: my gas turned off by SAS Energy. I picked up
Speaker 1: them mail today and received a letter from SAS Energy
Speaker 1: Legal department saying I owe them for gas. They must
Speaker 1: not have gotten your memo account. Now he gives this
Speaker 1: account number right like these are people, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're still begging her, like you can fix this. Here's
Speaker 1: my account number. Can you make this right for them? Right? M?
Speaker 1: Hello dearest HRMQR, Her Royal Majesty Queen Romana. Local Transport
Speaker 1: Services would not accept your Decree ninety one pertaining to
Speaker 1: free public transport services. They detained me and called the
Speaker 1: local police services. I explained and handed over the decree
Speaker 1: and asked them what criminal offense I was committing before
Speaker 1: handing over my personal ID. The officers would not identify
Speaker 1: themselves either. They did not hesitate to wrestle me to
Speaker 1: the ground after a very short time five minutes for
Speaker 1: no reason, handcuff me and put me in their vehicles
Speaker 1: that they could write an appearance notice. They told me
Speaker 1: to go to the police station and give my fingerprints
Speaker 1: three days before going to court. A warrant would be
Speaker 1: put out otherwise, question no decree covers this situation of
Speaker 1: my knowledge? What new decree or amended decree can be
Speaker 1: applied with the season assists that we use best regards,
Speaker 1: love and light to you in your team.
Speaker 2: I bounce between, yeah, I bounce between like you're not
Speaker 2: dumb up yet you don't realize. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I bounce between like dumbass and like oh honey, well,
Speaker 4: like you know, honey.
Speaker 1: This is important because I both it's important to have
Speaker 1: compassion and understanding for victims. I do try to reiterate
Speaker 1: I think everyone has a point in their life and
Speaker 1: a cult that they could have fallen victim to. Right,
Speaker 1: anyone could wind up in a cult. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anyone at any point in their life could become a cult.
Speaker 1: I think there's things that can immunize you to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not born immunized to it. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: can think of points in my life particularly I was
Speaker 1: like nineteen or twenty and broke and overwhelmed with the
Speaker 1: realities of being adult, and like I had no idea
Speaker 1: what I was going to do for a living. I
Speaker 1: hated all the jobs I'd tried. I was like miserable.
Speaker 1: I potentially could have fallen in for that thing right
Speaker 1: at that point in my life. I don't think everyone
Speaker 1: could fall for every cult. And I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and say the people falling for this cult are
Speaker 1: not the sharpest, Like you know this, I mean the
Speaker 1: second this is a particularly bad one.
Speaker 4: Just like, oh honey, yeah, like I you know, look, man,
Speaker 4: if you feel like you need to you know where
Speaker 4: you know a onesie for underwear?
Speaker 2: Like all right, all right, D Like I fair enough.
Speaker 1: You think al Ron Hubbard has mind powers? He kind of,
Speaker 1: did you know?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 4: I mean, some of the biggest A list celebrities are
Speaker 4: part it is. I could see how you could fall
Speaker 4: for to be like, I'm trying to get the juice
Speaker 4: they got. But my friend, my friend, my brother in Christ,
Speaker 4: the heat's not on, and you can turn earn the
Speaker 4: heat on. Clearly this lady can stopped him from turning
Speaker 4: off your heat, So I don't unders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's this. This is part of why
Speaker 1: I also believe I just said, I don't think these
Speaker 1: are on the higher end of like, I don't think
Speaker 1: these are the brightest followers that existed. That said, I
Speaker 1: do kind of suspect a decent number of them really
Speaker 1: do no deep down that this isn't real. And so
Speaker 1: in that case, it's not even an example of people
Speaker 1: not being super on the ball brain wise. People are
Speaker 1: just I think a lot of people are just choosing
Speaker 1: this as the delusion. I want to be a part of.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: An adventure.
Speaker 2: It's exciting, I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's an insignificant percentage of her people,
Speaker 1: you know, not all of them.
Speaker 2: Leave me.
Speaker 1: Leave me to my delusions, right, it's more fun than
Speaker 1: the real world, and it probably is your followers until
Speaker 1: you can't. And again, that's why you got a transition
Speaker 1: from just telling people to hurt themselves over the internet
Speaker 1: to hurting them in person in a caravan of RVs,
Speaker 1: which is where the story's heading.
Speaker 2: So the Queen he followers, huh, is she the caravans?
Speaker 1: No, she she's a part of that, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: start that idea. No, no, no, no no. So the
Speaker 1: queen informed her followers that military tribunals had actually been
Speaker 1: trying and executing deep state cubalists since twenty seventeen, as
Speaker 1: part of what she called the Nuremberg two trials. And
Speaker 1: I hate to backseat alternate reality here, but Turemberg was
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: To come on right there, right there.
Speaker 1: She currently claims for an idea, how blood thirsty this is.
Speaker 1: As silly as it is, she claims two point seven
Speaker 1: million people have already been executed, just.
Speaker 2: Like that's like.
Speaker 1: It's like a third of the Holocaust, of the Holocaust,
Speaker 1: if how you counted, Like, that's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: That were of Toronto God.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, executed at the command of quote our galactic
Speaker 1: federation of worlds of light beings. Because by this point
Speaker 1: she's brought aliens. Right, we're in space. There's alien white hats.
Speaker 1: They're fixing everything for us. They're going to solve all
Speaker 1: of our problems, you know. And again this is all
Speaker 1: a la carte bits and pieces of other cults, of
Speaker 1: other conspiratorial beliefs, and like there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: star trek in there, right.
Speaker 2: This is so Dinuguan bowl, right.
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth at the time, the closest pick for actual
Speaker 1: Queen of Canada, right, because she's like the they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of part of the cop They're part
Speaker 1: of the conte, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she was alive at the time, but Romana claimed, no,
Speaker 1: she was not. She had been executed previously, like in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen or something. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly when she says the queen was executed, but sometimes
Speaker 1: Romana would claim to have executed the queen personally, to
Speaker 1: have actually killed the queen herself. And you know, this
Speaker 1: is the case with a lot of faith, like for example,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who's the president When she starts her thing, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's not. He was executed. He's been replaced with a
Speaker 1: fake Trump's running or actually not. She doesn't believe Trump's
Speaker 1: running things. She believes the King of America is running things. Phoenix,
Speaker 1: Biden's a fake. Yeah. She first started to gain serious
Speaker 1: notoriety as a result of her imposition of the death
Speaker 1: penalty on basically every medical professional in Canada, but as
Speaker 1: time went on, her regular threats of execution and death
Speaker 1: became a key marker of the movement. As I noted earlier,
Speaker 1: followers began describing themselves as duck hunters while posting pictures
Speaker 1: of their purported firearms, to the extent that any strategic
Speaker 1: thinking was at play at all here, I think part
Speaker 1: of what Romana was doing with this initially was trying
Speaker 1: to expand her fan base into the United States, and
Speaker 1: he half aware cult leader has to know that we're
Speaker 1: where the big bucks are.
Speaker 2: Money.
Speaker 1: You're just leave money on the table if you don't
Speaker 1: think of a way for crazy Americans to follow along
Speaker 1: with the alternate reality game that you've turned your life into.
Speaker 2: Rightly down there, right around the point you have to
Speaker 2: go get it.
Speaker 1: Got to get involved, right you gotta try for some
Speaker 1: of that cast. She would send messages in her telegram
Speaker 1: that read quote American brothers and sisters in parentheses, gun
Speaker 1: owners and all American military veterans, please be ready to
Speaker 1: load those four by four flatbed trucks and trailers of
Speaker 1: yours just in case I, Queen Romana of Canada decides
Speaker 1: to issue a special royal invite for you all in
Speaker 1: a short notice hashtag duck hunting. Oh and please bring
Speaker 1: extra guns and ammo oh man, So that American brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters gun owners.
Speaker 2: When I say American brother guys with God.
Speaker 3: Was American brothers and sisters. And I thought, and I
Speaker 3: thought of those like fucking clowns, those like racist people
Speaker 3: that had those guns. That couple that had guns at
Speaker 3: that protest.
Speaker 1: The American military. Wy do you need a bunch of
Speaker 1: random Americans with guns to kill American.
Speaker 4: The most were I the most maga pilled person. I
Speaker 4: would get this and be like, we have to go, like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to go.
Speaker 2: See what is this?
Speaker 1: Is them taking my guns across the border, not me
Speaker 1: going like Queen said.
Speaker 4: I would be like the hit, We're going, we have
Speaker 4: to go, Like let's just we have to go, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's just the little gun lady still yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh lord, okay.
Speaker 1: So uh. In late twenty twenty one, did you Loo
Speaker 1: brag that she had about one hundred duck hunters ready
Speaker 1: to do her bidding. A telegram group was briefly created
Speaker 1: for these followers, and, according to our friends at the
Speaker 1: QAnon anonymous podcast was immediately infiltrated by researchers, which probably
Speaker 1: goes part of the way to explaining why that group
Speaker 1: is defunct now. The larger part of why that group
Speaker 1: no longer exists is explained by the following story. On
Speaker 1: December third of twenty twenty one, one of the Queen's
Speaker 1: followers was arrested after making threats to shoot people at
Speaker 1: his daughter's school vice quote. The post was made inside
Speaker 1: a private chat for Canadian duck hunters. The post featured
Speaker 1: the details of his daughter's school, which was offering vaccinations
Speaker 1: to their students. He wrote time to go hunting, bang
Speaker 1: bang at the end of the post. The post has
Speaker 1: since been removed. It is unknown why or who took
Speaker 1: it down. I think I know why or who. I
Speaker 1: think because this guy got in trouble because again, if
Speaker 1: I'm a journalist seeing that, or if I'm fucking a
Speaker 1: mountie seeing that, that's an actionable threat.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, I was pretty close with pe Per.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So subsequent investigation daughters used man. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: daughter's he's been making her get vaccinated. Queen says I
Speaker 1: can kill him, shouldn't I?
Speaker 2: You know, she is the Queen. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: He and his family were all seemingly followers of digitlo,
Speaker 1: taking her advice to their its logical conclusion. Right. All
Speaker 1: this brought Romana her first real world consequences. The RCMP
Speaker 1: aka the Mounties carried out a wellness check on her
Speaker 1: and she was briefly taken into custody, although no charges
Speaker 1: wherever filed. Again, these people are never like punished, I
Speaker 1: would argue, I don't think it's a violation of free
Speaker 1: speech to say, if you're tellowing your followers go murder
Speaker 1: all of the doctors for doing vaccinations and then one
Speaker 1: of them threatens to do a school shooting because of
Speaker 1: what you said, you're somewhat liable to that. I think
Speaker 1: you're lying across the bounds of free speech. It's saying
Speaker 1: that the sovereign leader kill these people. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: bit of a thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was all funny games until yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 4: like I could The wellness check part was I shouldn't
Speaker 4: have found funny, but was also funny to me where
Speaker 4: they was like, baby, are you okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, up until twenty the start of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: Romana was a figure of growing importance on the conspiratorial
Speaker 1: fringes of Canadian politics, but not someone who'd ever impacted
Speaker 1: the real world in a big way. In fact, the
Speaker 1: queen had never been seen in public. That all changed
Speaker 1: in late January when a group of self described truckers
Speaker 1: began occupying downtown Ottawa. This is what you were talking about, right,
Speaker 1: The big truck convoys an month really fuck up life
Speaker 1: in Ottawa for a while. Their demands where shall we say, inconsistent, incoherent,
Speaker 1: largely motivated by right wing grievances.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This is not a super rational movement with a lot
Speaker 1: of like specific things that they want that aren't insane.
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of them, and for week,
Speaker 1: swarms of trucks in RVs choked the city like a
Speaker 1: Boa constrictor, and the sheer spectacle made it the most
Speaker 1: exciting and potentially lucrative moment in recent history for Canadian
Speaker 1: right wing figures. Right, this is a thing where Ramana's
Speaker 1: not on the ground floor of this. She doesn't help
Speaker 1: start it, but she sees this and she just hears
Speaker 1: a cash register. Right, there's attention. If I can show up,
Speaker 1: a bunch of that attention will come my way and
Speaker 1: I get money. You know, a lot of people this
Speaker 1: is this is the case, you know, and a lot
Speaker 1: of things you can talk about on the left wing.
Speaker 1: We had a version of this during like the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty uprisings. We were a bunch of grifters who were like,
Speaker 1: if I just show up at these things, I can
Speaker 1: start getting a lot of money, right, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So Ramana made the decision to break her isolation and
Speaker 1: display herself in public for the first time. By this point,
Speaker 1: she had accumulated a kind of inner circle, right, a
Speaker 1: primitive one. This is like, we're not fully a cult yet.
Speaker 1: You've got those trappings, but she doesn't have any like
Speaker 1: real world followers quite yet. This is what's starting to happen.
Speaker 1: And the first of them were these people that she'd
Speaker 1: appointed to moderate her telegram channels. These are kind of
Speaker 1: her initial inner circle. They were a married couple of
Speaker 1: genially diluted Canadians named Corey and Daisy. When the queen
Speaker 1: announced she was going to show up at Ottawa in
Speaker 1: person to take control of the situation, she pressed Corey
Speaker 1: and Daisy into service and had them pick her up
Speaker 1: from her home outside of downtown Victoria, BC. The couple
Speaker 1: found their queen living in a small, filthy and crowded
Speaker 1: room more like a storage space than a home. As
Speaker 1: soon as they showed up. Daisy related later quote. We
Speaker 1: went out there and then she told us, Oh, don't
Speaker 1: call me queen right now, because everybody here knows me
Speaker 1: as Romana and nobody knows that I'm living a double life.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: That's both inconsistent with what she claimed about her roommate previously,
Speaker 1: but also why don't why don't your roommates know that
Speaker 1: you're in charge of everything? Why are you secret? You
Speaker 1: talk about this online like you're not hiding your existence
Speaker 1: from the rest of the world. Why can only your
Speaker 1: roommates not know?
Speaker 2: How do you not walk into that and go oh man?
Speaker 2: And it just turned got coned? We got conned?
Speaker 1: Sorry again because they wanted to have fun, right, I
Speaker 1: think because they wanted to have fun. That's I think
Speaker 1: as much thought has got put into it, really like,
Speaker 1: because these people do leave so they're not total, they're
Speaker 1: not crazy, they're able to like catch up with reality.
Speaker 1: I think it was fun. I think at this point
Speaker 1: it still is. And you know what's really fun?
Speaker 2: Tell me what was really fun?
Speaker 1: Robert sponsors of podcasts Getting your Money and Spending it
Speaker 1: bus show. Mm hm, we're back. So as you might
Speaker 1: pick up on by the fact that they talked to
Speaker 1: the press later. Daisy and Corey get illusioned comparatively fast,
Speaker 1: and this begs the question, how did anyone fall for
Speaker 1: this con for any length of time? Yes, and I
Speaker 1: think there's some interviews that make the basics of what
Speaker 1: they were doing pretty clear. Did you low end? Her
Speaker 1: followers were all people who felt like something was missing
Speaker 1: from their lives. For Romana, this was being a queen
Speaker 1: because she was not special. She was not someone who
Speaker 1: the world said was special, right. She was someone who
Speaker 1: was living on the margins, probably a fairly difficult life,
Speaker 1: probably a life without a lot of you know, fun
Speaker 1: to it, because she's struggling the whole time, and not
Speaker 1: a life in which people are showed deference to her
Speaker 1: and so becoming the queen, people are suddenly treating her
Speaker 1: with respect, They're waiting on her hand and foot. There's
Speaker 1: going to eventually be money in this. But what do
Speaker 1: where followers get out of it? Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think they are all people who want to play at
Speaker 1: being the special boys and girls with a special world
Speaker 1: saving quest.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Ramana offers them a fantasy, and they chose to take it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how else you explained this level of
Speaker 1: wilful delusion. And to emphasize that, I'm going to quote
Speaker 1: from one of Max's articles for Vice, Corey and Daisy
Speaker 1: drove Didulo to meet about fifty cheering fans at the
Speaker 1: launch point of her convoy behind Victoria's Parliament building. One
Speaker 1: person broke into tears upon seeing her. Vice News also attended,
Speaker 1: and Didulo refused to answer any questions when asked. From there,
Speaker 1: five vehicles, including several rinted RVs, and about fifteen people
Speaker 1: began their trick towards Ottawa at a breakneck pace. And
Speaker 1: you know, just the fact that like you show up
Speaker 1: and people break into tears seeing you because they're so
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with emotion at how hopefully like that number one,
Speaker 1: that's someone who has definitely drank the kool aid. And
Speaker 1: that's also addictive for some of like Romana, you know,
Speaker 1: you immediately go to your shitty little horder house to Yeah,
Speaker 1: people worshiping you. Why would I ever go back home?
Speaker 1: You know, that's how she's going to react to this.
Speaker 1: Chris Cowan, a videographer, fell in with the group for
Speaker 1: a while when they passed through Calgary. He later recalled
Speaker 1: the pace that they took as aggressive, with Romana micromanaging
Speaker 1: everyone's position in the caravan. If we were not within
Speaker 1: sight of the vehicle, we would get a call to
Speaker 1: go faster.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: This would prove to have been a warning sign for
Speaker 1: the future. Once they reached Ottawa, Romana and her following
Speaker 1: which is like a little more than a dozen people,
Speaker 1: and you know, when you add in the locals in Ottawa,
Speaker 1: maybe there's a couple dozen people. It's a little unclear
Speaker 1: to me the exact numbers, but it's not huge. But
Speaker 1: it's you know, a lot for someone like her to
Speaker 1: suddenly have waiting on her hand and foot. But they
Speaker 1: run into conflict very quickly with other right wing protesters
Speaker 1: because this is a huge movement. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people in Ottawa. And while they're all people we might
Speaker 1: call right wing cranks, most of them don't believe that
Speaker 1: Canada has a queen who fought off the Chinese military
Speaker 1: and underground tunnels. Most of them don't believe that. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're racist, maybe they don't like lockdowns, probably do believe
Speaker 1: the bullshit about COVID, but they don't believe this.
Speaker 4: You know, you wait, was she run into the resident
Speaker 4: and they're like wait what no, people say, people say,
Speaker 4: we crazy.
Speaker 2: She's crazy.
Speaker 1: And this didn't work well because one of the first
Speaker 1: things she does is, as I noted above, the Canadian
Speaker 1: government is Canada Ink Corporation, which is an invalid, evil corporation.
Speaker 1: She's the sovereign Republic of Canada that she's governing. Right,
Speaker 1: So she burns a Canadian flag, and the purpose of
Speaker 1: this is it's symbolic of her symbolically destroying the corrupt,
Speaker 1: corporate Canadian government and replacing it with her own legitimate regime. Right. However,
Speaker 1: a bunch of angry conservatives just see a woman who
Speaker 1: is not white light a Canadian flag on.
Speaker 2: Fire always gets you, always super well. I was like,
Speaker 2: I was waiting for the part to play a role
Speaker 2: here it is, all.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so this this causes some tense standoffs and
Speaker 1: a lot of yelling, and several a chuck of her
Speaker 1: followers leave at this point. Actually, these are people who
Speaker 1: had not gotten that deep into it, right, this is
Speaker 1: just starting. They're like, ah, you know what, this ain't
Speaker 1: for me. I don't like this lady. I don't like
Speaker 1: what she's doing.
Speaker 3: And this does na seem very chill.
Speaker 2: See, I ain't know we was going burn flags.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know we were doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is that digitlo's reaction to this.
Speaker 1: I went back and forth as to like what should
Speaker 1: you do? Should you apologize, should you try to explain yourself?
Speaker 1: Should you try and repair? She refuses to apologize and
Speaker 1: refuses to admit any wrongdoing, and instead starts attacking the
Speaker 1: truckers because she saw She's very frustrated, right she she
Speaker 1: sees this as disobedience to her rule, and she also
Speaker 1: sees she had really been hoping this would go over
Speaker 1: better for her, that like, this is what's going to
Speaker 1: make me do a major national figure. I'm going to
Speaker 1: take over this occupation. Yeah, and this is how all.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe she even thought she was going to physically
Speaker 1: take over the government this way with a huge caravan
Speaker 1: of weirdos.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: She could have totally just played that so much Cooler'd
Speaker 4: be like, no, you guys don't understand.
Speaker 2: I'm the queen of action. I'm the queen that's not
Speaker 2: going to get rid of this bad flag. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, people just aren't playing along. Even Fox News refuses
Speaker 1: to her humor her because they have no the whatever
Speaker 1: journals they've got on the ground, has no idea who
Speaker 1: she is. At one point during the occupation, she comes
Speaker 1: across a Fox reporter who's interviewing truckers, and she tries
Speaker 1: to insert herself in this situation. And because she is
Speaker 1: who she is, she's live streaming this whole time. So
Speaker 1: she tells her followers, Oh, Fox is requested that I
Speaker 1: sit for an interview. And then she tries to like
Speaker 1: barge in and talk to the reporter, and the reporters
Speaker 1: not at all interested in her, right, And so she's like,
Speaker 1: don't you know on the Queen of Canada And he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I didn't Yeah, I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: didn't know. Actually, can you just wait right here? Security,
Speaker 2: like you know, just yeah, we're gonna get to you
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this this goes over really badly. She gets
Speaker 1: pissed and replies, Oh, make sure your commander in chief
Speaker 1: in the United States Army knows about it. Again, it's
Speaker 1: not not.
Speaker 2: In the army for one thing, Joe.
Speaker 1: No one calls it the commander in chief of the
Speaker 1: army either, it's the whole military anyway, whatever, And again
Speaker 1: she's Also, I should state when she says, I'll make
Speaker 1: sure your commander in chief knows about it. She's also
Speaker 1: not talking about Joe Biden. She's talking about that dude
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah. On the whole the Trucker Rally was
Speaker 1: a failure for her movement. Her posts about this period
Speaker 1: show a deep jealousy more than anything else. She is
Speaker 1: really unhappy with the fact that, like other grifters are
Speaker 1: seeing more success than her, and she's kind of being
Speaker 1: ignor But I'm the queen. Yeah, I'm the queen. Don't
Speaker 1: you guys know I'm the Queen. Like, come on here, right, queene? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on now. So, yeah, you see a lot of
Speaker 1: jealousy in the stuff she's writing at this time. And
Speaker 1: I want to give you an This is a quote
Speaker 1: from her telegram page. The Ancient Royal Families, white Hats,
Speaker 1: Military and Global Alliance, Galactic and Intergalactic Alliance, Federation of
Speaker 1: Worlds of Light Beings have been working for thousands of
Speaker 1: years to free planet Earth. And suddenly you say, truckers.
Speaker 2: Freed the world.
Speaker 1: Get your head out of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 2: Eh. Oh, she just have like a Canadian that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the greatest oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't saving the world. The aliens are bush.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Of years this plan's been in work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the truckers didn't do anything either, Just FYI.
Speaker 1: Right, right, And this is the kind of thing. This
Speaker 1: is a failure, kind of for her. She doesn't hugely
Speaker 1: increase her visibility or her number of followers as a
Speaker 1: result of this, but it's a success in that she's
Speaker 1: now just spent days living in RVs, which are definitely
Speaker 1: nicer than her house. She's got like a dozen or
Speaker 1: more people who believe she's the queen and are talking
Speaker 1: to her like she's a god, almost, and she's got
Speaker 1: hundreds of more followers online sending her money and tens
Speaker 1: of thousands of people reading what she's saying. Life's good,
Speaker 1: Life's a lot better now than it used to be.
Speaker 1: Why don't I just keep let it ride, keep this going?
Speaker 1: And so she decides, I'm going to continue living in
Speaker 1: a caravan of RVs with my followers as long as
Speaker 1: I possibly can. I don't want to go back. So
Speaker 1: this is there's a little bit of a hiccup here,
Speaker 1: which is because while they're living in Ottawa, Romana, they
Speaker 1: rent an RV at least one of the RV I
Speaker 1: think a couple of the RV's they rent, they use
Speaker 1: are rented, and when they're renting their RVs, the occupation's
Speaker 1: going on, and the people who run the rental place
Speaker 1: are like, Okay, you can't take this to Ottawa for
Speaker 1: that big stupid occupation thing because all the RV's they
Speaker 1: are getting trashed. People are like living in filth there
Speaker 1: and destroying them and we're not going to take that risk.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do that. And they're like, we
Speaker 1: absolutely aren't going to Ottawa, and then they drive to
Speaker 1: automediately and they don't realize that like RV's cost a
Speaker 1: lot of money. The cheap ones are like fifty or
Speaker 1: sixty grand in a lot of cases, and it's many
Speaker 1: of them are like more than a quarter of a million,
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars. They're expensive products, right,
Speaker 1: and you don't rint something like that to a stranger
Speaker 1: without tracking it. RVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the RV people realize and they call them like,
Speaker 1: you have to take these back immediately, and they do
Speaker 1: take them back immediately, because she's not the queen and
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to wind up on the hook for
Speaker 1: a shitload of money for these RVs that they would
Speaker 1: have been stolen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so and already know the already knows you
Speaker 2: wave the insurance, Yeah wave.
Speaker 1: Definitely, she's not wasting money on that.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's really interesting to note because
Speaker 3: that shows a level of like understanding right and wrong
Speaker 3: decision making and like being a little bit financially where
Speaker 3: cost it's very interesting to note.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So she has to while these RVs
Speaker 1: get returned and she figures out how to set up
Speaker 1: a better situation for themselves travel wise, she has to
Speaker 1: put her whole cult up in a hotel for like
Speaker 1: a week, which is strains the movement's finances. They were
Speaker 1: making money, but it's like thousands, maybe in the low
Speaker 1: tens at this point, and between renting RVs, paying for
Speaker 1: gas to drive across Canada, keeping more than a dozen
Speaker 1: people in hotels, you're gonna run through that fairly quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you're gonna run through it even more quickly because
Speaker 1: Romana started making We just talked about like, well, she's
Speaker 1: capable of some sort of rationality because that she had
Speaker 1: them take the RVs back. She's also making objectively irrational
Speaker 1: decisions with her money. Case in point, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to quote for black Lamorreau's article here. For a good
Speaker 1: period that time, Corey and Daisy said Digitlo made them
Speaker 1: keep a room open for more than three hundred dollars
Speaker 1: a night, just in case Russian President Vladimir Putin dropped by.
Speaker 1: I invite President Putin to join the NATO Alliance to
Speaker 1: continue to preserve peace and prosperity around the world, she
Speaker 1: said in a telegram live stream from one of her
Speaker 1: hotel rooms. I welcome you to the Kingdom of Canada.
Speaker 1: She would later claim that Putin gifted her an autographed watch,
Speaker 1: an autographed I just got to keep a room open
Speaker 1: for Putin, Sharby.
Speaker 3: Like, I just love the idea of Vladimir Putin at
Speaker 3: a three hundred dollars night.
Speaker 1: Sophie, you you're laughing. But I have a spare room
Speaker 1: in my house that is kept ready at all times
Speaker 1: in case Vladimir Putin drops by, and I think he
Speaker 1: will one day.
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm back on the team of the
Speaker 4: of the of the followers to be like giving, I'll
Speaker 4: just stay in the room, yeah, until he gives until
Speaker 4: he shows up.
Speaker 1: Is that cool?
Speaker 5: But give it?
Speaker 3: It's giving leaving the clothes out for l R H
Speaker 3: to come back.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, well there's a lot of there must
Speaker 1: be frustration because she's a lot of these people are
Speaker 1: like sleeping two to a room, right, because they are
Speaker 1: not much money. And there's like an empty room for
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin so he can join NATO.
Speaker 2: But she just love NATO.
Speaker 1: I love it all right, yeah, yeah, So the story
Speaker 1: of the autographed watch from Putin is a good case
Speaker 1: study and how Digitlo warps an altars reality haphazardly to
Speaker 1: buttress her delusions of grandeur. She was, in fact brought
Speaker 1: a watch that looks from a distance like it might
Speaker 1: be a Rolex, and she was given this watch by
Speaker 1: a large man who might be Russian named Marcus. I'm
Speaker 1: going to show you a picture from Christine Stati's study
Speaker 1: of Marcus handing her this watch. This is great, but
Speaker 1: there's like this big square jot guy smiling. He's got
Speaker 1: like a vague military looking jacket on standing next to
Speaker 1: Romana in her white coat. They're both holding the watch.
Speaker 1: She has a very serious look on her face. Well,
Speaker 1: he could next to an RV that has her portrait
Speaker 1: on it, Queen her Majesty, Queen Rowanna.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could just be an extra on that season
Speaker 3: of Stranger Things, that's what.
Speaker 1: Uh, and it's got You can see her little flag,
Speaker 1: which is like a maple leaf that says God loves you,
Speaker 1: which is a nice message for someone who mostly talks
Speaker 1: about executing people.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 1: I know what you're asking, who's Marcus? Is he connected
Speaker 1: at all to the Russian government? Is he Russian?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have found nothing about him other than this photo
Speaker 1: she took, or has I think she took it. My
Speaker 1: guess would be that he's a minor figure in the
Speaker 1: QAnon world. I don't know though. Maybe he's just some
Speaker 1: guy who would all watch for her and she cooked
Speaker 1: up the rest and he agreed to play along. Maybe
Speaker 1: he came to her with the lie. I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: a fake Rolex. I can't the photo. There's no way that's.
Speaker 2: A real Rolex.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So after the and it's very funny, she's really
Speaker 1: obsessed in this early period, and this isn't like the
Speaker 1: last few months before Russia's expanded invasion of Ukraine. She's
Speaker 1: really talking about like I'm working with Putin to make peace.
Speaker 1: He's going to join NATO, Everything's going to be fine.
Speaker 1: He would never invade Ukraine. Putin's on the side of
Speaker 1: the white hats. You know, we're all working to get
Speaker 1: rid of the evil deep state cabals.
Speaker 2: Ma'am, you couldn't keep my electricity on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like your followers, Cat died because he didn't have
Speaker 1: cooling in the summer.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So, as Russia starts to move troops in mass troops
Speaker 1: on Ukraine's border and then invades, she's before the invasion
Speaker 1: saying nothing's going to happen, and then once it starts,
Speaker 1: she takes to the air to tell her followers the
Speaker 1: Russian army is only in Ukraine to clear out the
Speaker 1: deep State and no civilians whatsoever. Got you just stop
Speaker 1: at the deep state again, you'd think that this is
Speaker 1: an obvious lie made even again some of her followers.
Speaker 1: There's sizable Ukrainian das for a population in Canada. Mack
Speaker 1: Lammer will say that, like people were getting calls, people
Speaker 1: in Ukraine were getting calls from family members who bought
Speaker 1: into this stuff, being like you guys will be fine,
Speaker 1: and like that's just gotta be really, really infuriating, furious,
Speaker 1: so in her article on the subject, Sartaghi writes quote.
Speaker 1: Digitlo also announced that she and her team were planning
Speaker 1: a trip to Russia to meet with Putin. For the trip,
Speaker 1: she and her team were to fly aboard air Force one,
Speaker 1: the plane used by the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: which Digitlo said she would be renaming QR one. Months prior,
Speaker 1: Digito stated that she had been asked for and received
Speaker 1: air Force one. Digitlo would soon be traveling on QR one,
Speaker 1: but not before the aircraft was repainted with her insignia.
Speaker 1: Digital stated that North Korea Supreme Leader Kim Jong un
Speaker 1: has placed Digitlo's self created flag on all of his
Speaker 1: government buildings, kept her framed photo next to his, and
Speaker 1: said that she was personally invited to coordinate a state
Speaker 1: visit to Pyongyang. Digitlo has also claimed that the Hell's
Speaker 1: Angel motorcycle Club personally offered to provide her with security,
Speaker 1: and that Mohammed Ben Salmon, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: is a personal friend and her brother. Digitlo has said
Speaker 1: that she's in frequent contact with NBS so that he
Speaker 1: regularly watches her live streams on telegram and he sends
Speaker 1: her large sums of money.
Speaker 2: This he is wonderful, like, oh man, great, great, great stuff.
Speaker 2: Man covered everyday.
Speaker 1: You got them all? You got them all.
Speaker 2: I'm the homie is sending you money. First, why can't
Speaker 2: you just buy r v's you know, why are you
Speaker 2: renting them?
Speaker 3: It's not even But if NBS has said, here's so
Speaker 3: much fucking money, why are you Why is there three
Speaker 3: people to a hotel room?
Speaker 5: Why is the hotel room a three hundred dollar hotel room?
Speaker 2: Where's the main? Where the one go?
Speaker 1: If he gave it to you? Also, why do you
Speaker 1: need a Hell's Angel security if you're the commander in chief.
Speaker 2: Of the listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 4: Because she good in the in the in the office,
Speaker 4: and she good in the streets.
Speaker 2: I got them both. I got them.
Speaker 1: She's got to both set out right. Sometimes you sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to roll with some light, with some guys
Speaker 1: who know to get things done exactly. You know, that's right?
Speaker 5: Okay? But then what put keep goingsters? Then what happens?
Speaker 1: There's no Canadian gangsters? Prop there too polite?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, yeah?
Speaker 1: What are they doing? Smuggling maple syrup. Come on, I
Speaker 1: know there's you guys can commit.
Speaker 5: Murder the rest of this story. I'm dying here, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So, as her semi permanent road trip rolled on, Queen
Speaker 1: did Julo continued her well worn tactic of recording live
Speaker 1: streams and YouTube videos and posting on telegram. She became
Speaker 1: me became increasingly open about her real origins, which, of
Speaker 1: course we're not as an orphaned Filipino immigrant, but as
Speaker 1: an alien from outer space. The website Wrapper interviewed Christine
Speaker 1: Sartaghi for an article on Queen did Youlo quote. She
Speaker 1: has talked about being from the plant an arcteriss, so
Speaker 1: there's an alien element to this. Ti explained. She thinks
Speaker 1: that she has been sent here in sort of a
Speaker 1: divine way from God, Master Creator, that she has been
Speaker 1: sent here to save people. Did Youlo does not shy
Speaker 1: away from claims like these and online videos. The Arcturians
Speaker 1: are the most advanced, like the Yoda, she has said.
Speaker 1: The Arcturians. Yes, they're the most advanced like the Yoda. Yoda, Yoda,
Speaker 1: I think like Yoda from the Star Wars movie. She
Speaker 1: just says the yodas that's not his species. I don't
Speaker 1: name man that's his name. I don't think the species
Speaker 1: is the Yoda's, although I don't know that we have
Speaker 1: a name for the species. It's probably somewhere in the
Speaker 1: expanded lore or some ship. Maybe they reton that.
Speaker 2: Either way, this is not the Yoda worked.
Speaker 3: I've been in an episode and I'm really sorry to listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so funny.
Speaker 6: From the Marks, Yeah, from the Marks, my god Yoda.
Speaker 1: She has said, I am not a dictator. I am
Speaker 1: guided the highest divine beings, and I am here to
Speaker 1: deliver peace and prosperity.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, that's believable to me.
Speaker 2: Go off.
Speaker 1: I think that's all real, you know, And I think
Speaker 1: that's a good place to end part do We'll come
Speaker 1: back next week. This rand a little long with a
Speaker 1: third part er, and then next week we'll also have
Speaker 1: a separate, a one part episode, so you'll get your
Speaker 1: two episodes next week. Don't worry, worry, folks. I can't
Speaker 1: wound up having a little bit too much fun with
Speaker 1: Queen Romana. It's a nice little break from all of
Speaker 1: the crimes against humanity and murders. She's mostly talking about.
Speaker 3: To try to calm down before part three. But I
Speaker 3: can't promise.
Speaker 1: Anything, Sophie. Sophie, take some of the wisdom of the Yoda.
Speaker 1: You know, relax or don't relax. There's no trying to relax.
Speaker 2: Relax.
Speaker 3: I am okay, listen to Hood of Politics.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're tight with the Yoda.
Speaker 3: I'm tight with the Yoda.
Speaker 2: The Yoda, Yoda, the Yoda.
Speaker 5: The Yoda.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yes again. Do we believe that, I know,
Speaker 1: we believe it's real. I know there's people who believe
Speaker 1: Yoda is real. There's people who believe that all of
Speaker 1: the fiction stuff is real.
Speaker 3: I wish Yoda was real, so cute.
Speaker 1: Don't don't tell people things they don't you know, you
Speaker 1: can't make jokes. You can't have fun in the world.
Speaker 1: There's too many people who will just believe whatever crazy
Speaker 1: stuff you say. It's it's it's it's unfortunate anyway and
Speaker 1: has an island in which children are hunting for sport
Speaker 1: by the wealthy. You know, go out into the real
Speaker 1: world and take action based on this totally true thing
Speaker 1: that I told you, not a lie and not just
Speaker 1: a bit for a podcast.
Speaker 5: Rory fucking cut that.
Speaker 1: Robert, keep it in, Rory, keep it in, Keep it in, Rory, Robert, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay. We've said it's a joke.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: I keep it in, Rory, keep it in.
Speaker 5: Bye.
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