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Speaker 1: As media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Sorry I was doing I was doing Robert. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm I did it first. I'm always the

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Speaker 1: first to be Robert. If you don't count that guy

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Speaker 1: who produced The Godfather, I don't. But other than him,

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Speaker 1: no other Roberts anywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are saying this. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are saying saying you're you're.

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Speaker 3: The only Robert. You're the only Roberts, right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You would have met one if there was another, and

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Speaker 1: if you have met one, you're a liar. Anyway, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards a podcast about bastards, and this week

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Speaker 1: about the Queen of Canada, Romana did Youlo prop Jason

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Speaker 1: Petty our guest, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm here, man, I can't wait to talk about here.

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Speaker 2: That swhere.

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Speaker 4: She's the Queen of Canada, Commander Canada, Queen of Canada,

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Speaker 4: the Canada, First Party of Canada or Canadians.

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Speaker 1: If someone if someone came up to me and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm the commander in chief and you have to do

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Speaker 1: what I say, I'd say, I'm simply not in the military, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: I would probably know her roommate would be like, oh word,

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Speaker 1: Will yeah yeah, probably realistically like oh, your majesty excellent, great.

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Speaker 4: Do you want some coffee? Because I was gonna make

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, ship, you got that royal money.

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Speaker 5: Guess that means we can upgrade.

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Speaker 3: To you know, you know, get Yeah, guess we're getting

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Speaker 3: that that that dope TV package.

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Speaker 1: Like when we leave, we finally afford ESPN. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: of course we can't afford it. Even even a royal

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Speaker 1: salary can't pay for ESPN. The queen had to fucking

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Speaker 1: pirate that ship.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's talk about this great grift, well, not that

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Speaker 1: great grift, this kind of like shockingly mediocre and lazy

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: In any con like Romana was pulling, there's usually the

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Speaker 1: initial grift.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's the play someone is intentionally making when they start

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, yeah, there's like, this is my immediate

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Speaker 1: make you know, I sell famous or whatever improve my

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Speaker 1: situation by lying about this thing, right, And then that

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Speaker 1: initial grift either they achieve it, you know, in some cases,

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Speaker 1: they meet their initial goals, and then they have to

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Speaker 1: In some cases the initial goals prove impossible, but they

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Speaker 1: get saying anyway, what there's the initial grift, and then

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Speaker 1: there's what the grift grows into over time as the

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's also the factor is that I think cult leaders

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Speaker 1: those cases, especially the cult leaders generally start more sane

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Speaker 1: than they end up. And it's kind of like getting

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Speaker 1: crazy rich, right, if you get billions of dollars, suddenly

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Speaker 1: you go from I have to interact with the world,

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Speaker 1: of everything everyone else does. Life is just a series

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Speaker 1: you grow increasingly unmoored from reality and crazy as we're

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Speaker 1: exactly the same shit happens, probably in a more accelerated

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Speaker 2: Like that damages your brain more? Yeah, not trying to.

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Speaker 1: Make it, Oh, the poor cult leader, but it's like, objectively,

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Speaker 1: they lose their sanity the longer they do this, because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's like like I think, I think

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Speaker 4: it's objectively breaking your brain. Yes, yes, yeah, you're just

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Speaker 4: you are losing a complete grip. And yeah you can't

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Speaker 4: not know when you put you a little single out

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Speaker 4: for your new your new uh you know, uh techno

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Speaker 4: this song is objectively trash.

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Speaker 1: But like, yeah, if I were to start a cult

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Speaker 1: I had something outside of the cult business that I

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Speaker 1: way you can stay, you can keep yourself one step

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Speaker 1: ahead of the fence. Right, You're not going to lose

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Speaker 1: your mind too much. You know, every cult leader go

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Speaker 1: you know, if you really want your cult to go

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Speaker 2: Feel it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: The backup plan has to be solid enough to where

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Speaker 4: you can maintain pieces of the grift, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: and somebody might follow you there.

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Speaker 1: But like you have to keep knowing what reality is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not. Yeah, you're not ended up.

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Speaker 4: You're not ending up in the you know, the John

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Speaker 4: McAfee situation you gave me, like exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's a great example, right, but he went too far.

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Speaker 1: to l Ron Hubbards. Where as crazy as he got

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Speaker 1: L R H always knew. Time to get in the boat,

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Speaker 1: time to leave. I got to get out of this country.

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Speaker 1: Fucking loss coming for me. Time to bounce.

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Speaker 2: I'm out. Listen, let's go to the boats for the boats.

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Speaker 2: Hit the boats.

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Speaker 3: You calling l r H the Goat will never not

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Speaker 1: He's the no one has ever been a better cult

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Speaker 1: He's so good at being a cult leader.

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Speaker 4: You know the fact that like it still exists, Like

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Speaker 1: What he was in l a last week or like

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Speaker 2: It's still here. It's huge. It outlived his legacy like

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Speaker 1: To l Ron Hubbard Boulevard.

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Speaker 4: At that point you have to like, no, you're the goat,

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Speaker 4: like we all every documentary, every expos we all know.

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Speaker 2: But it's still sitting right here. I'm like, you win,

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Speaker 2: you win, bro. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, he did it, he did it.

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Speaker 1: Sartaghi Christine Sartaghi's rite up gives us the best insight

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Speaker 1: into what the original con that Didulo was going for

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Speaker 1: might have been.

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Speaker 1: An investigation bi logically revealed that Whiplash three four seven

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Speaker 1: involved in recruiting individuals to invest in fraudulent cryptocurrency tokens,

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Speaker 1: described by experts as a large and well organized Ponzi scheme.

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Speaker 1: Whiplash is the guy who like first backed Ramana from

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Speaker 1: the q and On world. Okay, this ponzi scheme netted

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Speaker 1: the scammers approximately two million dollars. The nature of Didulo's

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Speaker 1: a crypto Ponzi scammer, and my guess is that was

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Speaker 2: Not having any idea what crypto is either, but anyway.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly and just listening to whatever this guy says totally.

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Speaker 1: As the summer a twenty twenty one began, Romana Didulo

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Speaker 1: Sovereign Republic of Canada. Sure, but love it's weird to

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Speaker 1: She refers to Canada, the government of Canada, the illegitimate

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Speaker 1: sovereign citizen adjacent stuff, which is getst an American sovereign

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Speaker 1: citizens should be very wrapped up in America and American law,

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Speaker 1: but they're all over the world because all you need

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Speaker 1: know anyway. Okay, so she announces as soon as you know,

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Speaker 1: this is in her first year as being the Queen.

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Speaker 1: She starts announcing a bunch of new policies like any

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Speaker 1: new world leader does. Right, you start putting out, here's

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Speaker 1: the big policies I'm going to do. These all sounded

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Speaker 1: crazier in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. They

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Speaker 1: now just sound like actual policies of the US government

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Speaker 1: because she withdrew Canada from the United Nations, with drew

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Speaker 1: your followers, So first off, we're just doing Trump stuff here, right,

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Speaker 2: To do this stuff, right, that's who's her off as, right, right.

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Speaker 1: She advised her followers to prepare for a complete and

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Speaker 1: total worldwide shift in financial systems. The world now lived

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Speaker 3: Yes, their votes count as much as yours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that part doesn't matter because voting isn't real.

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Speaker 1: Uh, the mushroom aliens inside Mount Shasta control all of

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Speaker 3: I am our Donald, I am our Donald.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that for years, Sophie. You are our Donald.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna find it pagram for Sophie's night before.

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Speaker 1: This is Donald Sutherland. I assumed we were talking about.

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Speaker 3: At first, I like miss Herd and I thought you

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Speaker 3: Donald Sterling would be a great Bastards episode.

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Speaker 2: Actually, he'd be a great Bastard's I'll feel like you

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Speaker 1: Here's a copy of one of these cease and assists.

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Speaker 1: I am the witness of the law, serving you a

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Speaker 1: I'm a witness of the law, serving you a lawful document.

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Speaker 1: We are now living in the sovereign Republic of Canada

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Speaker 1: your business is operating in the Sovereign Republic of Canada.

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Speaker 1: Are newly appointed Head of State, Commander in Chief, Head

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Speaker 1: and restrictions are unlawful, unscientific, and unjust and therefore invalid

438
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: Nolan void. This means no more pandemic lie, no more masks,

439
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: no more social distancing, no more temperature taking, no more lockdowns,

440
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: no more quarantine or self imposed isolation, no more genocidal

441
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: COVID vaccines, no vast vaccine, passport and ID chip. If

442
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: you still enforce any of the former COVID measures on

443
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: any leaving breathing man, woman, staff, and customers, you are

444
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: violating the all caps universal human rights and are complicit

445
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: in crimes against humanity and will be prosecuted by We

446
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: the People, military tribunal under national law and common law,

447
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: by the Head of State and Commander in Chief of Canada.

448
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: And again it's this mix of it's all this American

449
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: soft set language, the whole the fact that you're coming

450
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 1: back to We the People. That's not a Canada, that's

451
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: like a we the American people thing. Some of the

452
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: she's a very international culture.

453
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

454
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 4: Some of the stuff also sounds like very much like

455
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 4: an English second language type, like like you know, and

456
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I'm Sada Corporation, Canada Incorporate

457
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: Corporation in Canada, First Party of Canada.

458
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I was like it kind of sounds. It

459
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: didn't hit me.

460
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: It's all read it And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, that.

461
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: Movie that Garrison made us watch Eddington.

462
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.

463
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: Garrison, maybe watch that movie.

464
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Garrison can't make me do anything. I'll watch it one

465
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: of these dates. I haven't gotten to it.

466
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, okay, okay.

467
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: But yeah it's crazy.

468
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh So her followers start handing these out right,

469
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: and I know what you're wondering reading all this. Okay,

470
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: if someone still continues to enforce mask mandates or whatever

471
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: after getting the cease and assist, what are the penalties?

472
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 1: So they say that you'll be prosecuted by we, the people,

473
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: and the Queen. So how to talk about that. Here's

474
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: a quote from one of mac Lamereau's Vice articles summarizing

475
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: Romana's rhetoric and the dynamics of her community during this period.

476
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: Let's keep this simple. Did you Low wrote recently, death

477
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: is the penalty for crimes against humanity? This was met

478
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: with much jubilation from hundred of followers. Yes, wrote one.

479
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we have you, wrote another. She is

480
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: the only one that is saying anything hopeful or anything

481
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It felt completely hopeless before Romana came along,

482
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: wrote a third. As much as I hate to see

483
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: people being put to death, it has become necessary because

484
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: the jerks just won't stop what they're doing, wrote yet another. Yeah, yees,

485
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: you get a lot there in terms of what's appealing.

486
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: While this person's saying, she's the only one saying anything

487
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: hopeful or anything that makes sense, because she's saying, your

488
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: debts are all about to go away. All of the

489
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: bad stuff that you think is genocide, the COVID stuff

490
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: that's all going away, it's all been white aside. It's hopeful,

491
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's so much of it is just

492
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: you promise people something more instead of it you just

493
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: reading the real news, which is often depressing and really complicated,

494
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: and it's very hard to figure out how can I help,

495
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: how can I do anything to fix things? Instead the

496
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: Queen's just saying, all the bad people are being put

497
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: to death for wearing masks, and your debts are about

498
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: to go away. Just continue to listen to me and

499
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: share my stuff online and send me money, and the

500
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: world will be fixed.

501
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: And how are we killing these people? What's her?

502
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: What's her weapon? Like? What is she? What is she saying?

503
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: Unclear?

504
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: Put to death in secret?

505
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but going Maybe it's maybe a psychic, maybe a

506
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: psychic doing or psyched how.

507
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: I do it.

508
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: I psychically killing people all the time, you know, the.

509
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 6: Time, dude, lyrically exactly, I think lyrically murdering people the

510
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 6: Homo sapien joint like in as far as like that

511
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 6: that gene to be a cult leader.

512
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: Like I feel like even in listening it is, I

513
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: think about this all the time, especially with like the

514
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: politics stuff, is like it breaks people's psyche that there

515
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: are some things that are just out of your control,

516
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 4: that there is nothing you can do.

517
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing.

518
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: And I feel like COVID like really brought that out

519
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: to where it was just like it's a virus. Yeah,

520
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: it just exists like out of which like the Earth

521
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: has viruses.

522
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: And I get, you know, I haven't spent a little

523
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: bit of time in war zones. I get how how

524
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: people can wind up believing like, oh, I was like

525
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: saying something nearly killed killed me, and it didn't and

526
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: I saw other people died. I must have been saved, yes,

527
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: because like I've had the experience of something like you know,

528
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: I was sitting at a fucking checkpoint and the guys

529
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: that I'd been smoking with drove off ahead of us

530
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: and got blown up by a vehicle based ied, Yeah,

531
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: and I guess I could be like I was protected,

532
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: but like within, why did God want those French people

533
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: to do exactly what? God didn't protect this princess. Shoot,

534
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: And I'm not really lucky, you know.

535
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

536
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he picked me.

537
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: No, some stuff just be what it is.

538
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 4: Ship you know, happens, and I feel like, you know, yeah,

539
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: some shit it's just and it's just and but but

540
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: the need to tie up the loose ends and have

541
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: a reason for and find out the source of and

542
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: just like part of it is just like this, like

543
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: even just them saying, man, the lockdown sucks. I'm like, yeah, nigga,

544
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: I know me too, what you want me to do?

545
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: Like you're saying, like that's just what it is. Nobody

546
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: wanted COVID, it just happened, you know. So anyway, Uh,

547
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: I just think that like them looking for this answer,

548
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 4: she'd the only one to make it sense, ma'am.

549
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: She don't make sense at all. She's not making any sense.

550
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: She's not making any sense. You just gave up.

551
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: On comprehending the world because you got too scared and angry. Yes,

552
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, and that you see that too, where like

553
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: I hate seeing people put to death, but the jerks

554
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: just won't stop. First off, if you think a group

555
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: of people need to be put to death for their

556
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: crimes against humanity and you call them jerks, they probably

557
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: aren't committing crimes against humanity when I talk when I

558
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: talk about like when we talk about the Nazis, yeah,

559
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: no one's ever like what a bunch of jerks. They

560
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: really were some jerks, Like no, they were monsters.

561
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: They tell you, Yeah, yeah.

562
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy. Saddam Hussein was a real jerk when he

563
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: gassed all those Kurdish civilians. You know, Like it's just

564
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: not the way we use the term. It's just silly,

565
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that I SA agent was a real jerk

566
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: for shooting that person in the head. Like, it's just

567
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: not how you do it right. When you believe people

568
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: should be executed, That's not how you talk about them anyway.

569
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: It's very childish and very part of like language. Like

570
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: that makes me almost wonder how much do these people

571
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: really believe it or are they just like it's way

572
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: more fun to spend my days pretending this is real

573
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: than accepting the reality around me. I kind of think

574
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: that is even more of it than I truly believe

575
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: all these people have been executed, right, yeah, totally. I

576
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I'm maybe reading too much into it,

577
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: but you know, who's never been executed for crimes against humanity?

578
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 1: Prop which is an issue?

579
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah.

580
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's just.

581
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: Go to ass.

582
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: And we're back. So in November of twenty twenty one,

583
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Romana posted an order for the King of Canada to

584
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: the King of Canada's military on her telegram shoot to

585
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: kill anyone who tries to inject children under the age

586
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: of at nineteen years old with coronavirus nineteen vaccines, bioweapons

587
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: or any other vaccines. This order is effective immediately. So

588
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: again she gives a shoot to kill order for the

589
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: military to kill anyone giving out any kind of vaccine.

590
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: She follows up by editing shoot to kill to arrest

591
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: because people do start. Is she trying to get people murdered,

592
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: which she is, Yes, so she does alter that slightly,

593
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: but she's going to also repeatedly talk about executing people.

594
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: She writes, please use airports, hospitals, school stadiums, and other

595
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: public venues to hold and detain all traders. They will

596
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: stay there until military tribunal is held for each one

597
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: of them until the day they are executed via firing

598
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: squad or hanging. So, yeah, friend, kill all military. What

599
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: the Canadian one, the one that she's commander in chief

600
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: of obviously where well in Canada, you know, Yeah, telegram,

601
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: you'll find out that's where. That's where all all military

602
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: lawful military orders are always issued through telegram pages, you know. So,

603
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: in that unique way the internet has her community developed

604
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: their own name for the armed men that she wanted

605
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: detaining and executing doctors and political leaders, which kind of

606
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: does suggest that she's not in control of the military

607
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: if you think that, like you need to develop gangs

608
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: of guys to detain and arrest and kill all the doctors.

609
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: But the community name for these people is duck Hunters.

610
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: So whenever she refers to gathering her duck hunters, she's

611
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: talking about the armed men that she wants to have

612
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: murder all of the doctors and politicians who support masks

613
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: and stuff.

614
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Got it.

615
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: In a Vice article on the subject, mac Lamora posted

616
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: irrelevant screen grab from her telegram channel. He spent a

617
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: lot of time in there, which will be up on

618
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: the video version now. But you see one of her followers,

619
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: and it's worth noting her Telegram name is her Majesty

620
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: all caps I am Queen Romana right, like you know,

621
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: tag back to the whole I AM movement. She's using

622
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: a lot of that language. One of her followers, a

623
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: guy named Ron, says, all set, I can bunk a

624
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: few duck hunters in my home. I'm all set to

625
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: hunting gear ready, and then he posts a picture of

626
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: several firearms on a countertape. Oh lord, yeah, several different

627
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: rifles and stuff. So that's an actionable threat. When I

628
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: was when I used to teach classes on counter terrorism

629
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, when I used to lecture, I

630
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: would be asked a lot by like and this is

631
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, when I was a bellinkat, I was doing

632
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: trainings primarily for like journalists and NGO employees. And the

633
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: one thing I would get asked a lot, especially by journalists,

634
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: because I'm talking people through all these telegram channels how

635
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: to find and follow different groups and different individual like

636
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: far right figures on telegram, which is still pretty significant

637
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: place for them to organize, but at the time was

638
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: even more of a hub. They would ask a lot

639
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: like how do you know what to report on versus

640
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: what not to report on, because it's a sea people

641
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to kill people and the guns that

642
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: they have, and if you just you can't publish an

643
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: article being like, and here's another Nazi with the picture

644
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: of a gun saying he's going to shoot people. I

645
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: don't know where, I don't know when, because that's not

646
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: really like a story necessarily, and it also is just

647
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: kind of riley because most of the people don't actually

648
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: do any how. How do you tell if something is

649
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: serious enough that you do need to start gathering more

650
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: information report on it. One thing I would tell people

651
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: is if you see a sign that someone or a

652
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: group is starting to experiment with real world activism. So

653
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: if you've got this group of peopley're talking about wanting

654
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: to shoot their enemies, and they've started putting up flyers

655
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: and papers rather than a neighborhood or whatever or something

656
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: like that, or they've started showing up the well, then

657
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: that's a sign maybe this group needs to be paid

658
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: more attention to because they're starting to do stuff in

659
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: the right Yeah. So when we've got do Dolo's followers

660
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: going up to people that they see as targets, that

661
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: they see as deserving of the death penalty and handing

662
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: them cease and desists and also posting picture of their

663
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: guns and talking about gathering. That's the point at which

664
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I would say, you need to take these people seriously,

665
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: because there's every chance at least one of them is

666
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: going to snap and do something tragic.

667
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, for somebody to take that her little Microsoft

668
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: word little document, your cease and desisting, print it, sign it,

669
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: and then go do the thing.

670
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you telling me something.

671
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's someone who might be willing to do something more.

672
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: And that's a sign that a cult leader or that

673
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: an extremist figure might have the juice to convince someone

674
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: to do something. Yeah, right, because they're starting down that

675
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: road already. In January of twenty twenty two, Romana Didulo

676
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: declared all debts in the Kingdom of Canada were forgiven.

677
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Followers began to halt paying their credit card bills and mortgages,

678
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: and she specifically encouraged this. She would even sometimes threaten

679
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: people who like, we're still paying their bills, like not,

680
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: she wasn't like following and people looking at the people's finances,

681
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: but she would say, like, if you are still paying

682
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: these bills. If you're still paying off your student loves,

683
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: if you're still paying your utilities, that means you don't

684
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: have faith in my government.

685
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I was so frustrated if this was

686
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: like my partner, like spouse, yeah, and you're just like

687
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: you have to pay the mortgage, like I'm dumb with

688
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: your little tearogram thing.

689
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: And this is a huge This is something that one

690
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: of the things that Mac did a lot of uh

691
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: work documenting is as well as STESHI is like the

692
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: number of people who stopped paying their bills and would

693
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: start posting like, hey, we don't have any power and

694
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: school's about to be back in session and I have

695
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: a young son. I'm still not paying the power bill

696
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: because I know we're not supposed to, but like when

697
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: is the power going to get turned back on? Like

698
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: when are you when is when are you going to

699
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: be in charge again? Because I just feel like I can't,

700
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: uh like, like my son needs to go to school,

701
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: Like you can't go to school with that electricity in

702
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: the house. You get stuff like that people lost their

703
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: homes because they stopped paying their mortgages, like people got evicted.

704
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: People I don't know if anyone died. But when you're

705
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: talking about people cutting off heating or cooling in certain

706
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: times of the year in Canada, that could get someone killed.

707
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: You know that cold is evil up there. Yeah, yeah,

708
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: you could die.

709
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: So we're now talking about someone who is like seriously

710
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: endangering people.

711
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. This went from funny to like quick you know

712
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: or I was right? You ain't pay you Okay.

713
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to show you, guys an image that

714
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: was from a like a study Christine Sartagi published on

715
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Romana Didulo where she's collected a bunch of different like

716
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: posts people have made talking about how they've stopped paying

717
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: their bills and utilities.

718
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to.

719
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Read a couple. You can see like a clip of

720
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: several of them here, and to read one or two

721
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: of them. I stopped paying my power and hydro bills

722
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: when directed by QR that's Queen Romana. Yeah, and last

723
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: month they shut off my utilities. I've been without power

724
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: during some of the hottest days I've ever felt. To

725
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: add to the stress, my oldest cat passed away yesterday

726
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: and I suspect it was due to the heat. I

727
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know what more to do. I can't keep waiting.

728
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: I need power. I've been charging my phone and using

729
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: the Wi Fi at the Neroon McDonald's in the meantime. QR.

730
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Early this year you said that Canadians do not need

731
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: to pay for utilities. Recently you've stated that it would

732
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: be considered a war crime to turn off utilities. When

733
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: do these royal decrees start to take effect? I've had

734
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: my gas turned off by SAS Energy. I picked up

735
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: them mail today and received a letter from SAS Energy

736
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Legal department saying I owe them for gas. They must

737
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: not have gotten your memo account. Now he gives this

738
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: account number right like these are people, Oh my god,

739
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: they're still begging her, like you can fix this. Here's

740
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: my account number. Can you make this right for them? Right? M?

741
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: Hello dearest HRMQR, Her Royal Majesty Queen Romana. Local Transport

742
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Services would not accept your Decree ninety one pertaining to

743
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: free public transport services. They detained me and called the

744
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: local police services. I explained and handed over the decree

745
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: and asked them what criminal offense I was committing before

746
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: handing over my personal ID. The officers would not identify

747
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: themselves either. They did not hesitate to wrestle me to

748
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: the ground after a very short time five minutes for

749
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: no reason, handcuff me and put me in their vehicles

750
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: that they could write an appearance notice. They told me

751
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: to go to the police station and give my fingerprints

752
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: three days before going to court. A warrant would be

753
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: put out otherwise, question no decree covers this situation of

754
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: my knowledge? What new decree or amended decree can be

755
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: applied with the season assists that we use best regards,

756
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: love and light to you in your team.

757
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: I bounce between, yeah, I bounce between like you're not

758
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: dumb up yet you don't realize. Yeah.

759
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: I bounce between like dumbass and like oh honey, well,

760
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: like you know, honey.

761
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: This is important because I both it's important to have

762
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: compassion and understanding for victims. I do try to reiterate

763
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: I think everyone has a point in their life and

764
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: a cult that they could have fallen victim to. Right,

765
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: anyone could wind up in a cult. That doesn't mean

766
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: anyone at any point in their life could become a cult.

767
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: I think there's things that can immunize you to it. Yeah,

768
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: we're not born immunized to it. Yeah, I think I

769
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: can think of points in my life particularly I was

770
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: like nineteen or twenty and broke and overwhelmed with the

771
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: realities of being adult, and like I had no idea

772
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: what I was going to do for a living. I

773
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: hated all the jobs I'd tried. I was like miserable.

774
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I potentially could have fallen in for that thing right

775
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: at that point in my life. I don't think everyone

776
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: could fall for every cult. And I'm just gonna go

777
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: ahead and say the people falling for this cult are

778
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: not the sharpest, Like you know this, I mean the

779
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: second this is a particularly bad one.

780
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: Just like, oh honey, yeah, like I you know, look, man,

781
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: if you feel like you need to you know where

782
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: you know a onesie for underwear?

783
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Like all right, all right, D Like I fair enough.

784
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: You think al Ron Hubbard has mind powers? He kind of,

785
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: did you know?

786
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: I did?

787
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean, some of the biggest A list celebrities are

788
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: part it is. I could see how you could fall

789
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: for to be like, I'm trying to get the juice

790
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: they got. But my friend, my friend, my brother in Christ,

791
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: the heat's not on, and you can turn earn the

792
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: heat on. Clearly this lady can stopped him from turning

793
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: off your heat, So I don't unders.

794
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's this. This is part of why

795
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: I also believe I just said, I don't think these

796
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: are on the higher end of like, I don't think

797
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: these are the brightest followers that existed. That said, I

798
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: do kind of suspect a decent number of them really

799
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: do no deep down that this isn't real. And so

800
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: in that case, it's not even an example of people

801
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: not being super on the ball brain wise. People are

802
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: just I think a lot of people are just choosing

803
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: this as the delusion. I want to be a part of.

804
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: This is.

805
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: An adventure.

806
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: It's exciting, I think.

807
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's an insignificant percentage of her people,

808
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: you know, not all of them.

809
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: Leave me.

810
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Leave me to my delusions, right, it's more fun than

811
00:38:52,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: the real world, and it probably is your followers until

812
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: you can't. And again, that's why you got a transition

813
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: from just telling people to hurt themselves over the internet

814
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: to hurting them in person in a caravan of RVs,

815
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: which is where the story's heading.

816
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: So the Queen he followers, huh, is she the caravans?

817
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: No, she she's a part of that, but she doesn't

818
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: start that idea. No, no, no, no no. So the

819
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: queen informed her followers that military tribunals had actually been

820
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: trying and executing deep state cubalists since twenty seventeen, as

821
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: part of what she called the Nuremberg two trials. And

822
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I hate to backseat alternate reality here, but Turemberg was

823
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: right there.

824
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: To come on right there, right there.

825
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: She currently claims for an idea, how blood thirsty this is.

826
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: As silly as it is, she claims two point seven

827
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: million people have already been executed, just.

828
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: Like that's like.

829
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: It's like a third of the Holocaust, of the Holocaust,

830
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: if how you counted, Like, that's a lot of people.

831
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: That were of Toronto God.

832
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, executed at the command of quote our galactic

833
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: federation of worlds of light beings. Because by this point

834
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: she's brought aliens. Right, we're in space. There's alien white hats.

835
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: They're fixing everything for us. They're going to solve all

836
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: of our problems, you know. And again this is all

837
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: a la carte bits and pieces of other cults, of

838
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: other conspiratorial beliefs, and like there's a little bit of

839
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: star trek in there, right.

840
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: This is so Dinuguan bowl, right.

841
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth at the time, the closest pick for actual

842
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: Queen of Canada, right, because she's like the they're like,

843
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of part of the cop They're part

844
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: of the conte, right.

845
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

846
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she was alive at the time, but Romana claimed, no,

847
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: she was not. She had been executed previously, like in

848
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen or something. I don't know

849
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: exactly when she says the queen was executed, but sometimes

850
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: Romana would claim to have executed the queen personally, to

851
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: have actually killed the queen herself. And you know, this

852
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: is the case with a lot of faith, like for example,

853
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who's the president When she starts her thing, No, no, no,

854
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: he's not. He was executed. He's been replaced with a

855
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: fake Trump's running or actually not. She doesn't believe Trump's

856
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: running things. She believes the King of America is running things. Phoenix,

857
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: Biden's a fake. Yeah. She first started to gain serious

858
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: notoriety as a result of her imposition of the death

859
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: penalty on basically every medical professional in Canada, but as

860
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: time went on, her regular threats of execution and death

861
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: became a key marker of the movement. As I noted earlier,

862
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: followers began describing themselves as duck hunters while posting pictures

863
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: of their purported firearms, to the extent that any strategic

864
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: thinking was at play at all here, I think part

865
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: of what Romana was doing with this initially was trying

866
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: to expand her fan base into the United States, and

867
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: he half aware cult leader has to know that we're

868
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: where the big bucks are.

869
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Money.

870
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: You're just leave money on the table if you don't

871
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: think of a way for crazy Americans to follow along

872
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: with the alternate reality game that you've turned your life into.

873
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Rightly down there, right around the point you have to

874
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 2: go get it.

875
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Got to get involved, right you gotta try for some

876
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: of that cast. She would send messages in her telegram

877
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: that read quote American brothers and sisters in parentheses, gun

878
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: owners and all American military veterans, please be ready to

879
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: load those four by four flatbed trucks and trailers of

880
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: yours just in case I, Queen Romana of Canada decides

881
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: to issue a special royal invite for you all in

882
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: a short notice hashtag duck hunting. Oh and please bring

883
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: extra guns and ammo oh man, So that American brothers

884
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: and sisters gun owners.

885
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: When I say American brother guys with God.

886
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: Was American brothers and sisters. And I thought, and I

887
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: thought of those like fucking clowns, those like racist people

888
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: that had those guns. That couple that had guns at

889
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: that protest.

890
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: The American military. Wy do you need a bunch of

891
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: random Americans with guns to kill American.

892
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: The most were I the most maga pilled person. I

893
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: would get this and be like, we have to go, like,

894
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to go.

895
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: See what is this?

896
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Is them taking my guns across the border, not me

897
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: going like Queen said.

898
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: I would be like the hit, We're going, we have

899
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: to go, Like let's just we have to go, you know, Yeah.

900
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: It's just the little gun lady still yeah.

901
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: Oh lord, okay.

902
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: So uh. In late twenty twenty one, did you Loo

903
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: brag that she had about one hundred duck hunters ready

904
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: to do her bidding. A telegram group was briefly created

905
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: for these followers, and, according to our friends at the

906
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: QAnon anonymous podcast was immediately infiltrated by researchers, which probably

907
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: goes part of the way to explaining why that group

908
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: is defunct now. The larger part of why that group

909
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: no longer exists is explained by the following story. On

910
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: December third of twenty twenty one, one of the Queen's

911
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: followers was arrested after making threats to shoot people at

912
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: his daughter's school vice quote. The post was made inside

913
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: a private chat for Canadian duck hunters. The post featured

914
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: the details of his daughter's school, which was offering vaccinations

915
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: to their students. He wrote time to go hunting, bang

916
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: bang at the end of the post. The post has

917
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: since been removed. It is unknown why or who took

918
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: it down. I think I know why or who. I

919
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: think because this guy got in trouble because again, if

920
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm a journalist seeing that, or if I'm fucking a

921
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: mountie seeing that, that's an actionable threat.

922
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, I was pretty close with pe Per.

923
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So subsequent investigation daughters used man. Yeah, his

924
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: daughter's he's been making her get vaccinated. Queen says I

925
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: can kill him, shouldn't I?

926
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: You know, she is the Queen. Yeah, Okay.

927
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: He and his family were all seemingly followers of digitlo,

928
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: taking her advice to their its logical conclusion. Right. All

929
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: this brought Romana her first real world consequences. The RCMP

930
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: aka the Mounties carried out a wellness check on her

931
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and she was briefly taken into custody, although no charges

932
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: wherever filed. Again, these people are never like punished, I

933
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: would argue, I don't think it's a violation of free

934
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: speech to say, if you're tellowing your followers go murder

935
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: all of the doctors for doing vaccinations and then one

936
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: of them threatens to do a school shooting because of

937
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: what you said, you're somewhat liable to that. I think

938
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: you're lying across the bounds of free speech. It's saying

939
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: that the sovereign leader kill these people. Yeah, that's a

940
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: bit of a thing.

941
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

942
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: It was all funny games until yeah, yeah, I feel

943
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: like I could The wellness check part was I shouldn't

944
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 4: have found funny, but was also funny to me where

945
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: they was like, baby, are you okay?

946
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

947
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: So, up until twenty the start of twenty twenty two,

948
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Romana was a figure of growing importance on the conspiratorial

949
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: fringes of Canadian politics, but not someone who'd ever impacted

950
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: the real world in a big way. In fact, the

951
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: queen had never been seen in public. That all changed

952
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: in late January when a group of self described truckers

953
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: began occupying downtown Ottawa. This is what you were talking about, right,

954
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: The big truck convoys an month really fuck up life

955
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: in Ottawa for a while. Their demands where shall we say, inconsistent, incoherent,

956
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: largely motivated by right wing grievances.

957
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Right.

958
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: This is not a super rational movement with a lot

959
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: of like specific things that they want that aren't insane.

960
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of them, and for week,

961
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: swarms of trucks in RVs choked the city like a

962
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Boa constrictor, and the sheer spectacle made it the most

963
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: exciting and potentially lucrative moment in recent history for Canadian

964
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: right wing figures. Right, this is a thing where Ramana's

965
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: not on the ground floor of this. She doesn't help

966
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: start it, but she sees this and she just hears

967
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: a cash register. Right, there's attention. If I can show up,

968
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of that attention will come my way and

969
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I get money. You know, a lot of people this

970
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: is this is the case, you know, and a lot

971
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: of things you can talk about on the left wing.

972
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: We had a version of this during like the twenty

973
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: twenty uprisings. We were a bunch of grifters who were like,

974
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: if I just show up at these things, I can

975
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: start getting a lot of money, right, yeah, you know.

976
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: So Ramana made the decision to break her isolation and

977
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: display herself in public for the first time. By this point,

978
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: she had accumulated a kind of inner circle, right, a

979
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: primitive one. This is like, we're not fully a cult yet.

980
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: You've got those trappings, but she doesn't have any like

981
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: real world followers quite yet. This is what's starting to happen.

982
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: And the first of them were these people that she'd

983
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: appointed to moderate her telegram channels. These are kind of

984
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: her initial inner circle. They were a married couple of

985
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: genially diluted Canadians named Corey and Daisy. When the queen

986
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: announced she was going to show up at Ottawa in

987
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: person to take control of the situation, she pressed Corey

988
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: and Daisy into service and had them pick her up

989
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: from her home outside of downtown Victoria, BC. The couple

990
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: found their queen living in a small, filthy and crowded

991
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: room more like a storage space than a home. As

992
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: soon as they showed up. Daisy related later quote. We

993
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: went out there and then she told us, Oh, don't

994
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: call me queen right now, because everybody here knows me

995
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: as Romana and nobody knows that I'm living a double life.

996
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: Now.

997
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: That's both inconsistent with what she claimed about her roommate previously,

998
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: but also why don't why don't your roommates know that

999
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: you're in charge of everything? Why are you secret? You

1000
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: talk about this online like you're not hiding your existence

1001
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: from the rest of the world. Why can only your

1002
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: roommates not know?

1003
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: How do you not walk into that and go oh man?

1004
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: And it just turned got coned? We got conned?

1005
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: Sorry again because they wanted to have fun, right, I

1006
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: think because they wanted to have fun. That's I think

1007
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: as much thought has got put into it, really like,

1008
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: because these people do leave so they're not total, they're

1009
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: not crazy, they're able to like catch up with reality.

1010
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: I think it was fun. I think at this point

1011
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: it still is. And you know what's really fun?

1012
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: Tell me what was really fun?

1013
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: Robert sponsors of podcasts Getting your Money and Spending it

1014
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: bus show. Mm hm, we're back. So as you might

1015
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: pick up on by the fact that they talked to

1016
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: the press later. Daisy and Corey get illusioned comparatively fast,

1017
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: and this begs the question, how did anyone fall for

1018
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: this con for any length of time? Yes, and I

1019
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: think there's some interviews that make the basics of what

1020
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: they were doing pretty clear. Did you low end? Her

1021
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: followers were all people who felt like something was missing

1022
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: from their lives. For Romana, this was being a queen

1023
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: because she was not special. She was not someone who

1024
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: the world said was special, right. She was someone who

1025
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: was living on the margins, probably a fairly difficult life,

1026
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: probably a life without a lot of you know, fun

1027
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: to it, because she's struggling the whole time, and not

1028
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: a life in which people are showed deference to her

1029
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: and so becoming the queen, people are suddenly treating her

1030
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: with respect, They're waiting on her hand and foot. There's

1031
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: going to eventually be money in this. But what do

1032
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: where followers get out of it? Well, I mean, I

1033
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: think they are all people who want to play at

1034
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: being the special boys and girls with a special world

1035
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: saving quest.

1036
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1037
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: Ramana offers them a fantasy, and they chose to take it.

1038
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how else you explained this level of

1039
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: wilful delusion. And to emphasize that, I'm going to quote

1040
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: from one of Max's articles for Vice, Corey and Daisy

1041
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: drove Didulo to meet about fifty cheering fans at the

1042
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: launch point of her convoy behind Victoria's Parliament building. One

1043
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: person broke into tears upon seeing her. Vice News also attended,

1044
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: and Didulo refused to answer any questions when asked. From there,

1045
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: five vehicles, including several rinted RVs, and about fifteen people

1046
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: began their trick towards Ottawa at a breakneck pace. And

1047
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, just the fact that like you show up

1048
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: and people break into tears seeing you because they're so

1049
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with emotion at how hopefully like that number one,

1050
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: that's someone who has definitely drank the kool aid. And

1051
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: that's also addictive for some of like Romana, you know,

1052
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: you immediately go to your shitty little horder house to Yeah,

1053
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: people worshiping you. Why would I ever go back home?

1054
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's how she's going to react to this.

1055
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: Chris Cowan, a videographer, fell in with the group for

1056
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: a while when they passed through Calgary. He later recalled

1057
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: the pace that they took as aggressive, with Romana micromanaging

1058
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: everyone's position in the caravan. If we were not within

1059
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: sight of the vehicle, we would get a call to

1060
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: go faster.

1061
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: He said.

1062
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: This would prove to have been a warning sign for

1063
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: the future. Once they reached Ottawa, Romana and her following

1064
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: which is like a little more than a dozen people,

1065
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: and you know, when you add in the locals in Ottawa,

1066
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe there's a couple dozen people. It's a little unclear

1067
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: to me the exact numbers, but it's not huge. But

1068
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: it's you know, a lot for someone like her to

1069
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: suddenly have waiting on her hand and foot. But they

1070
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: run into conflict very quickly with other right wing protesters

1071
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: because this is a huge movement. There's a lot of

1072
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: people in Ottawa. And while they're all people we might

1073
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: call right wing cranks, most of them don't believe that

1074
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Canada has a queen who fought off the Chinese military

1075
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: and underground tunnels. Most of them don't believe that. Maybe

1076
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: they're racist, maybe they don't like lockdowns, probably do believe

1077
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: the bullshit about COVID, but they don't believe this.

1078
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: You know, you wait, was she run into the resident

1079
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 4: and they're like wait what no, people say, people say,

1080
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 4: we crazy.

1081
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: She's crazy.

1082
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: And this didn't work well because one of the first

1083
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: things she does is, as I noted above, the Canadian

1084
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: government is Canada Ink Corporation, which is an invalid, evil corporation.

1085
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: She's the sovereign Republic of Canada that she's governing. Right,

1086
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: So she burns a Canadian flag, and the purpose of

1087
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: this is it's symbolic of her symbolically destroying the corrupt,

1088
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: corporate Canadian government and replacing it with her own legitimate regime. Right. However,

1089
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of angry conservatives just see a woman who

1090
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: is not white light a Canadian flag on.

1091
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: Fire always gets you, always super well. I was like,

1092
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: I was waiting for the part to play a role

1093
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 2: here it is, all.

1094
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so this this causes some tense standoffs and

1095
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of yelling, and several a chuck of her

1096
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: followers leave at this point. Actually, these are people who

1097
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: had not gotten that deep into it, right, this is

1098
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: just starting. They're like, ah, you know what, this ain't

1099
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: for me. I don't like this lady. I don't like

1100
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: what she's doing.

1101
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: And this does na seem very chill.

1102
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: See, I ain't know we was going burn flags.

1103
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know we were doing that.

1104
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1105
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is that digitlo's reaction to this.

1106
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: I went back and forth as to like what should

1107
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: you do? Should you apologize, should you try to explain yourself?

1108
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Should you try and repair? She refuses to apologize and

1109
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: refuses to admit any wrongdoing, and instead starts attacking the

1110
00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: truckers because she saw She's very frustrated, right she she

1111
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: sees this as disobedience to her rule, and she also

1112
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: sees she had really been hoping this would go over

1113
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: better for her, that like, this is what's going to

1114
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: make me do a major national figure. I'm going to

1115
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: take over this occupation. Yeah, and this is how all.

1116
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe she even thought she was going to physically

1117
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: take over the government this way with a huge caravan

1118
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: of weirdos.

1119
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1120
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 4: She could have totally just played that so much Cooler'd

1121
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: be like, no, you guys don't understand.

1122
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm the queen of action. I'm the queen that's not

1123
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 2: going to get rid of this bad flag. Yeah.

1124
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, people just aren't playing along. Even Fox News refuses

1125
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: to her humor her because they have no the whatever

1126
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: journals they've got on the ground, has no idea who

1127
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: she is. At one point during the occupation, she comes

1128
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: across a Fox reporter who's interviewing truckers, and she tries

1129
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: to insert herself in this situation. And because she is

1130
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: who she is, she's live streaming this whole time. So

1131
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: she tells her followers, Oh, Fox is requested that I

1132
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: sit for an interview. And then she tries to like

1133
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: barge in and talk to the reporter, and the reporters

1134
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: not at all interested in her, right, And so she's like,

1135
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: don't you know on the Queen of Canada And he's like, oh,

1136
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea.

1137
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I didn't Yeah, I didn't know that. I

1138
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: didn't know. Actually, can you just wait right here? Security,

1139
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: like you know, just yeah, we're gonna get to you

1140
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: right now.

1141
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this this goes over really badly. She gets

1142
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: pissed and replies, Oh, make sure your commander in chief

1143
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: in the United States Army knows about it. Again, it's

1144
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: not not.

1145
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: In the army for one thing, Joe.

1146
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: No one calls it the commander in chief of the

1147
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: army either, it's the whole military anyway, whatever, And again

1148
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: she's Also, I should state when she says, I'll make

1149
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: sure your commander in chief knows about it. She's also

1150
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: not talking about Joe Biden. She's talking about that dude

1151
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah. On the whole the Trucker Rally was

1152
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: a failure for her movement. Her posts about this period

1153
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: show a deep jealousy more than anything else. She is

1154
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: really unhappy with the fact that, like other grifters are

1155
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: seeing more success than her, and she's kind of being

1156
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: ignor But I'm the queen. Yeah, I'm the queen. Don't

1157
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: you guys know I'm the Queen. Like, come on here, right, queene? Yeah,

1158
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: come on now. So, yeah, you see a lot of

1159
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: jealousy in the stuff she's writing at this time. And

1160
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: I want to give you an This is a quote

1161
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: from her telegram page. The Ancient Royal Families, white Hats,

1162
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: Military and Global Alliance, Galactic and Intergalactic Alliance, Federation of

1163
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: Worlds of Light Beings have been working for thousands of

1164
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: years to free planet Earth. And suddenly you say, truckers.

1165
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: Freed the world.

1166
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: Get your head out of the toilet bowl.

1167
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: Eh. Oh, she just have like a Canadian that's good. Yeah,

1168
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: the greatest oh man, Yeah.

1169
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: You guys aren't saving the world. The aliens are bush.

1170
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1171
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: Sure.

1172
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: Of years this plan's been in work.

1173
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the truckers didn't do anything either, Just FYI.

1174
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: Right, right, And this is the kind of thing. This

1175
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: is a failure, kind of for her. She doesn't hugely

1176
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: increase her visibility or her number of followers as a

1177
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: result of this, but it's a success in that she's

1178
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: now just spent days living in RVs, which are definitely

1179
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: nicer than her house. She's got like a dozen or

1180
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: more people who believe she's the queen and are talking

1181
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: to her like she's a god, almost, and she's got

1182
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: hundreds of more followers online sending her money and tens

1183
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: of thousands of people reading what she's saying. Life's good,

1184
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Life's a lot better now than it used to be.

1185
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: Why don't I just keep let it ride, keep this going?

1186
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: And so she decides, I'm going to continue living in

1187
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: a caravan of RVs with my followers as long as

1188
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I possibly can. I don't want to go back. So

1189
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: this is there's a little bit of a hiccup here,

1190
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: which is because while they're living in Ottawa, Romana, they

1191
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: rent an RV at least one of the RV I

1192
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: think a couple of the RV's they rent, they use

1193
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: are rented, and when they're renting their RVs, the occupation's

1194
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: going on, and the people who run the rental place

1195
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: are like, Okay, you can't take this to Ottawa for

1196
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: that big stupid occupation thing because all the RV's they

1197
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: are getting trashed. People are like living in filth there

1198
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: and destroying them and we're not going to take that risk.

1199
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do that. And they're like, we

1200
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: absolutely aren't going to Ottawa, and then they drive to

1201
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: automediately and they don't realize that like RV's cost a

1202
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: lot of money. The cheap ones are like fifty or

1203
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: sixty grand in a lot of cases, and it's many

1204
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: of them are like more than a quarter of a million,

1205
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars. They're expensive products, right,

1206
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: and you don't rint something like that to a stranger

1207
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: without tracking it. RVP.

1208
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1209
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the RV people realize and they call them like,

1210
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: you have to take these back immediately, and they do

1211
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: take them back immediately, because she's not the queen and

1212
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to wind up on the hook for

1213
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: a shitload of money for these RVs that they would

1214
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: have been stolen.

1215
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so and already know the already knows you

1216
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: wave the insurance, Yeah wave.

1217
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: Definitely, she's not wasting money on that.

1218
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's really interesting to note because

1219
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: that shows a level of like understanding right and wrong

1220
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: decision making and like being a little bit financially where

1221
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: cost it's very interesting to note.

1222
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So she has to while these RVs

1223
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: get returned and she figures out how to set up

1224
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: a better situation for themselves travel wise, she has to

1225
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: put her whole cult up in a hotel for like

1226
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: a week, which is strains the movement's finances. They were

1227
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 1: making money, but it's like thousands, maybe in the low

1228
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: tens at this point, and between renting RVs, paying for

1229
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: gas to drive across Canada, keeping more than a dozen

1230
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: people in hotels, you're gonna run through that fairly quickly. Yeah,

1231
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: And you're gonna run through it even more quickly because

1232
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Romana started making We just talked about like, well, she's

1233
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: capable of some sort of rationality because that she had

1234
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: them take the RVs back. She's also making objectively irrational

1235
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: decisions with her money. Case in point, and I'm going

1236
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: to quote for black Lamorreau's article here. For a good

1237
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: period that time, Corey and Daisy said Digitlo made them

1238
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: keep a room open for more than three hundred dollars

1239
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: a night, just in case Russian President Vladimir Putin dropped by.

1240
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: I invite President Putin to join the NATO Alliance to

1241
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: continue to preserve peace and prosperity around the world, she

1242
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: said in a telegram live stream from one of her

1243
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: hotel rooms. I welcome you to the Kingdom of Canada.

1244
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: She would later claim that Putin gifted her an autographed watch,

1245
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: an autographed I just got to keep a room open

1246
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: for Putin, Sharby.

1247
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: Like, I just love the idea of Vladimir Putin at

1248
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: a three hundred dollars night.

1249
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: Sophie, you you're laughing. But I have a spare room

1250
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: in my house that is kept ready at all times

1251
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: in case Vladimir Putin drops by, and I think he

1252
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: will one day.

1253
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm back on the team of the

1254
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: of the of the followers to be like giving, I'll

1255
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: just stay in the room, yeah, until he gives until

1256
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: he shows up.

1257
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: Is that cool?

1258
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: But give it?

1259
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: It's giving leaving the clothes out for l R H

1260
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: to come back.

1261
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, well there's a lot of there must

1262
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: be frustration because she's a lot of these people are

1263
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: like sleeping two to a room, right, because they are

1264
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: not much money. And there's like an empty room for

1265
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin so he can join NATO.

1266
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: But she just love NATO.

1267
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: I love it all right, yeah, yeah, So the story

1268
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: of the autographed watch from Putin is a good case

1269
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: study and how Digitlo warps an altars reality haphazardly to

1270
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: buttress her delusions of grandeur. She was, in fact brought

1271
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: a watch that looks from a distance like it might

1272
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: be a Rolex, and she was given this watch by

1273
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: a large man who might be Russian named Marcus. I'm

1274
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: going to show you a picture from Christine Stati's study

1275
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: of Marcus handing her this watch. This is great, but

1276
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: there's like this big square jot guy smiling. He's got

1277
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: like a vague military looking jacket on standing next to

1278
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Romana in her white coat. They're both holding the watch.

1279
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: She has a very serious look on her face. Well,

1280
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: he could next to an RV that has her portrait

1281
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: on it, Queen her Majesty, Queen Rowanna.

1282
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could just be an extra on that season

1283
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: of Stranger Things, that's what.

1284
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Uh, and it's got You can see her little flag,

1285
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: which is like a maple leaf that says God loves you,

1286
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: which is a nice message for someone who mostly talks

1287
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: about executing people.

1288
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: This is great.

1289
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're asking, who's Marcus? Is he connected

1290
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: at all to the Russian government? Is he Russian?

1291
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1292
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: I have found nothing about him other than this photo

1293
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: she took, or has I think she took it. My

1294
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: guess would be that he's a minor figure in the

1295
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: QAnon world. I don't know though. Maybe he's just some

1296
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: guy who would all watch for her and she cooked

1297
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: up the rest and he agreed to play along. Maybe

1298
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: he came to her with the lie. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 1: a fake Rolex. I can't the photo. There's no way that's.

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Speaker 2: A real Rolex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So after the and it's very funny, she's really

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Speaker 1: obsessed in this early period, and this isn't like the

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Speaker 1: last few months before Russia's expanded invasion of Ukraine. She's

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Speaker 1: really talking about like I'm working with Putin to make peace.

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Speaker 1: He's going to join NATO, Everything's going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: He would never invade Ukraine. Putin's on the side of

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Speaker 1: the white hats. You know, we're all working to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the evil deep state cabals.

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Speaker 2: Ma'am, you couldn't keep my electricity on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like your followers, Cat died because he didn't have

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Speaker 1: cooling in the summer.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, as Russia starts to move troops in mass troops

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine's border and then invades, she's before the invasion

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Speaker 1: saying nothing's going to happen, and then once it starts,

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Speaker 1: she takes to the air to tell her followers the

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Speaker 1: Russian army is only in Ukraine to clear out the

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Speaker 1: deep State and no civilians whatsoever. Got you just stop

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: at the deep state again, you'd think that this is

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: an obvious lie made even again some of her followers.

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Speaker 1: There's sizable Ukrainian das for a population in Canada. Mack

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Speaker 1: Lammer will say that, like people were getting calls, people

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine were getting calls from family members who bought

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Speaker 1: into this stuff, being like you guys will be fine,

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Speaker 1: and like that's just gotta be really, really infuriating, furious,

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Speaker 1: so in her article on the subject, Sartaghi writes quote.

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Speaker 1: Digitlo also announced that she and her team were planning

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Speaker 1: a trip to Russia to meet with Putin. For the trip,

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Speaker 1: she and her team were to fly aboard air Force one,

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Speaker 1: the plane used by the President of the United States,

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: which Digitlo said she would be renaming QR one. Months prior,

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Speaker 1: Digito stated that she had been asked for and received

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Speaker 1: air Force one. Digitlo would soon be traveling on QR one,

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Speaker 1: but not before the aircraft was repainted with her insignia.

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Speaker 1: Digital stated that North Korea Supreme Leader Kim Jong un

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Speaker 1: has placed Digitlo's self created flag on all of his

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Speaker 1: government buildings, kept her framed photo next to his, and

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01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: said that she was personally invited to coordinate a state

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Speaker 1: visit to Pyongyang. Digitlo has also claimed that the Hell's

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01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Angel motorcycle Club personally offered to provide her with security,

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: and that Mohammed Ben Salmon, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: is a personal friend and her brother. Digitlo has said

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: that she's in frequent contact with NBS so that he

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: regularly watches her live streams on telegram and he sends

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Speaker 1: her large sums of money.

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Speaker 2: This he is wonderful, like, oh man, great, great, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Man covered everyday.

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Speaker 1: You got them all? You got them all.

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm the homie is sending you money. First, why can't

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: you just buy r v's you know, why are you

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: renting them?

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Speaker 3: It's not even But if NBS has said, here's so

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: much fucking money, why are you Why is there three

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01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: people to a hotel room?

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Speaker 5: Why is the hotel room a three hundred dollar hotel room?

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: Where's the main? Where the one go?

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01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: If he gave it to you? Also, why do you

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: need a Hell's Angel security if you're the commander in chief.

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01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: Of the listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 4: Because she good in the in the in the office,

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01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: and she good in the streets.

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Speaker 2: I got them both. I got them.

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: She's got to both set out right. Sometimes you sometimes

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: you need to roll with some light, with some guys

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: who know to get things done exactly. You know, that's right?

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Speaker 5: Okay? But then what put keep goingsters? Then what happens?

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: There's no Canadian gangsters? Prop there too polite?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, yeah?

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: What are they doing? Smuggling maple syrup. Come on, I

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: know there's you guys can commit.

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Speaker 5: Murder the rest of this story. I'm dying here, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So, as her semi permanent road trip rolled on, Queen

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: did Julo continued her well worn tactic of recording live

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Speaker 1: streams and YouTube videos and posting on telegram. She became

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: me became increasingly open about her real origins, which, of

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: course we're not as an orphaned Filipino immigrant, but as

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Speaker 1: an alien from outer space. The website Wrapper interviewed Christine

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: Sartaghi for an article on Queen did Youlo quote. She

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Speaker 1: has talked about being from the plant an arcteriss, so

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: there's an alien element to this. Ti explained. She thinks

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: that she has been sent here in sort of a

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: divine way from God, Master Creator, that she has been

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: sent here to save people. Did Youlo does not shy

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: away from claims like these and online videos. The Arcturians

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01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: are the most advanced, like the Yoda, she has said.

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Speaker 1: The Arcturians. Yes, they're the most advanced like the Yoda. Yoda, Yoda,

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Speaker 1: I think like Yoda from the Star Wars movie. She

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: just says the yodas that's not his species. I don't

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Speaker 1: name man that's his name. I don't think the species

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01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: is the Yoda's, although I don't know that we have

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Speaker 1: a name for the species. It's probably somewhere in the

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: expanded lore or some ship. Maybe they reton that.

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Speaker 2: Either way, this is not the Yoda worked.

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Speaker 3: I've been in an episode and I'm really sorry to listeners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so funny.

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Speaker 6: From the Marks, Yeah, from the Marks, my god Yoda.

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Speaker 1: She has said, I am not a dictator. I am

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: guided the highest divine beings, and I am here to

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Speaker 1: deliver peace and prosperity.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, that's believable to me.

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Go off.

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: I think that's all real, you know, And I think

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: that's a good place to end part do We'll come

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01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: back next week. This rand a little long with a

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Speaker 1: third part er, and then next week we'll also have

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: a separate, a one part episode, so you'll get your

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: two episodes next week. Don't worry, worry, folks. I can't

1409
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: wound up having a little bit too much fun with

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: Queen Romana. It's a nice little break from all of

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: the crimes against humanity and murders. She's mostly talking about.

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Speaker 3: To try to calm down before part three. But I

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Speaker 3: can't promise.

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Speaker 1: Anything, Sophie. Sophie, take some of the wisdom of the Yoda.

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, relax or don't relax. There's no trying to relax.

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01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: Relax.

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01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 3: I am okay, listen to Hood of Politics.

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're tight with the Yoda.

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm tight with the Yoda.

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Speaker 2: The Yoda, Yoda, the Yoda.

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Speaker 5: The Yoda.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yes again. Do we believe that, I know,

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: we believe it's real. I know there's people who believe

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: Yoda is real. There's people who believe that all of

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: the fiction stuff is real.

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: I wish Yoda was real, so cute.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't tell people things they don't you know, you

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: can't make jokes. You can't have fun in the world.

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: There's too many people who will just believe whatever crazy

1430
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: stuff you say. It's it's it's it's unfortunate anyway and

1431
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: has an island in which children are hunting for sport

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: by the wealthy. You know, go out into the real

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: world and take action based on this totally true thing

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: that I told you, not a lie and not just

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: a bit for a podcast.

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Speaker 5: Rory fucking cut that.

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Speaker 1: Robert, keep it in, Rory, keep it in, Keep it in, Rory, Robert, Yeah,

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: it's okay. We've said it's a joke.

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01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: It's fine.

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: I keep it in, Rory, keep it in.

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Speaker 5: Bye.

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