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Speaker 1: To the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host from

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Speaker 1: Shooter and it is Friday, which means a dear friend.

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Speaker 1: Corey Andrew joins us, Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 2: I am here, and Fridays are always better with you,

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Speaker 2: my darling.

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Speaker 1: We had a great light night last night, Corey. We

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Speaker 1: went out to the theater together to see The Whiz.

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I did too. And let me just tell you thank you,

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Speaker 2: because you know, I've had a very you know, tumultuous

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Speaker 2: little past two weeks and this was the perfect outing.

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Speaker 2: So you're a dear Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You are welcome. Ease on down that road, my friend,

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Speaker 1: on down the road. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 1: Big story at the top of the show, A really

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Speaker 1: nice story. I like ending the week on a good story.

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Speaker 1: So Meghan Markle is poised to rank in seven figures

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Speaker 1: in under a year with her new lifestyle brand. Let

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Speaker 1: me explain. So Megan and her entrepreneurship with her new

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Speaker 1: lifestyle brand. It's called American Orchard. That's a nice name,

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Speaker 1: very fancy, isn't it. It's poised to be very lucrative,

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Speaker 1: with reports suggesting that she could earn seven figures in

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Speaker 1: just the first year. Now I am terrible at math,

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Speaker 1: but I think seven figures is a million? Is that

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Speaker 1: seven six is one hundred thousand is six and them

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Speaker 1: mosscept so it had to be a million dollars. And

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Speaker 1: this is the first year. And what makes this so extraordinary, Corey,

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Speaker 1: is that the products by American Orchard, they're not even

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Speaker 1: available yet for purchase. So the reason all the buzz

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Speaker 1: is going on is Megan sent out some exclusive jars

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Speaker 1: of her strawberry jam to a bunch of celebrities. If

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Speaker 1: anyone's listening and can get me this jam, Hello, I

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Speaker 1: want to try this jam. It's to be delicious. I

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Speaker 1: actually know somebody in LA who was lucky enough to

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Speaker 1: get it and they said it's just delicious. Well, now

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Speaker 1: a pr experts speculating that this jam could command a

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Speaker 1: very high price and that would lead to Megan making

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Speaker 1: all this money. You know, when they left the family,

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Speaker 1: the biggest concern was how are they going to pay

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Speaker 1: their bills? We all have that when we leave home.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're a prince of Princess Judgess.

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Speaker 1: When you leave home, who's paying my rent? Now? And

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Speaker 1: I left home in England. I was like, who's going

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Speaker 1: to be paying my rent? Did I figure out? Me?

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Speaker 1: You gotta pay your rent? And so these two need

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Speaker 1: to work. He inherited about ten million dollars from his

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Speaker 1: mom Andy, Princess Diana, right, but the royal family has

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Speaker 1: cut him off now. They're not paying his security, they're

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Speaker 1: not paying his mortgage. He's got to make that himself. Now.

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Speaker 1: His book was a huge success, had a ton of

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Speaker 1: money from the book. But Megan no slouch. She made

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Speaker 1: four or five million dollars from suits, so she actually

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Speaker 1: had more money or she made more money than he made.

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Speaker 1: That was before the book. But now this lifestyle brand,

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Speaker 1: it could really take off. I'm happy for her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but jams, I heard they're so expensive. I'm like, honey,

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Speaker 2: it just take me to shop right and get me

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Speaker 2: the three ninety nine Welches gripe, because what kind of

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Speaker 2: jam is like? I mean, I think the jam is

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Speaker 2: like really really expensive apparently, So maybe she's going to

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Speaker 2: do like one of those like Willem Sonoma, Right, that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be like a high end. Yes, but you know,

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Speaker 2: but you're British. You should definitely have set you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: jam is like your thing, you guys Tea.

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Speaker 1: I love Jack, I love Jack Scodes clotted cream, but

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Speaker 1: the jam is just the tip of the iceberg. The

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Speaker 1: jam is the first product. I hear. There's going to

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Speaker 1: and really I eventually she'll do a fragrance. That's where

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Speaker 1: Each bottle of fragrance only costs pennies to make and

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Speaker 1: So she'll be doing all this other stuff. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: we finally have a nice story on Meghan. So much

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Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Meghan Markle is posed

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Speaker 1: her new brand. Our question is a little bit cheeky,

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Speaker 1: hopefully it's a nice answer. Will you buy her products?

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Speaker 1: Are you interested in a duchess dressing gown. Would you

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Speaker 1: like a duchess towel? Oh? I think so yes. Would

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Speaker 1: you like some duchess slippers? Oh? Yes, Duchess jam the

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Speaker 1: sky's the limit. Will you buy her products? Hey? Go

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Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, in a different sort of story with the Kathy

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Speaker 2: Lee Gifford, you know, she's recalling now how she found

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Speaker 2: forgiveness for her late husband Frank, after that very painful

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Speaker 2: affair he had. Now you know, she's been acknowledging now

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Speaker 2: the profound challenge she faced during that time of his infidelity,

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Speaker 2: and she's emphasizing the emotional toll it took on her.

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Speaker 2: And I think you could see it like anyone who

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Speaker 2: the media, she looked like she had been really disheveled

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Speaker 2: at some point when I saw her, she was really

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Speaker 2: going through it. So but despite having believed that Frank

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Speaker 2: was her soulmate, the betrayal tested her faith and left

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Speaker 2: her grappling with feelings of hurt and disillusionment, and she

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Speaker 2: shares her insights of forgiveness and the importance of not

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Speaker 2: allowing bitterness to consume one's life, which you know, you

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Speaker 2: and I always talk about as well here, and she

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Speaker 2: emphasized her desire to not be defined by bitterness, anger,

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Speaker 2: but I have a question for you. Does it mean

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Speaker 2: that Frank was not her soulmate? Just because? I would

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Speaker 2: say just because, But even though he had an affair,

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Speaker 2: how does that invalidate him from being her soulmate? I mean,

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Speaker 2: are those two things exclusive mutually? It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's complicated, isn't it. Because I think Frank can

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Speaker 1: And so that's the part of this that's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: But I always say, and I truly believe this. I

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Speaker 1: of friendly. You forgive not because they deserve it, but

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Speaker 1: It's your decision. I don't judge other people's relationships, and

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Speaker 1: goodness knows, I've had my relationships judged my entire life.

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Speaker 1: and what's best for you might not be best for me.

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Speaker 1: I've got to admit, though, I think Kathy Lee was

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Speaker 1: would be so easy to let this become the story

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Speaker 1: She also said God really helped her through this, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't have God in your life, fine, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but I hope you have something

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Speaker 1: mommy and Daddy got married. They now are having problems

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Speaker 1: It can be done. If Madonna can be safe in London,

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Speaker 1: let's just be honest. We talked about Megan selling that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here, Corey. Let's be clear, some of

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Speaker 2: You're sad, but they have money problems too, Like we

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Speaker 2: forget about that, Like you know, it's our relevant and

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Speaker 2: relative to like their particular economic structure. We see ten

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Speaker 2: the royal family, but he could have been leveraged and

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Speaker 2: now that he's on his own, that doesn't maybe go

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Speaker 2: very far. We never know, we never know. So sell

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Speaker 2: that Jam, Girl, sell that Jam.

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Speaker 1: Sell that jam Megan. Okay, moving along. This is such

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Speaker 1: a curious Hollywood story you're working on, Corey. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: movie poster. He's saying that it's basically, you know, because

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Speaker 2: mused that perhaps if he had been more prominently featured

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