Speaker 1: Some people, it's like, it's my right. I don't say
Speaker 1: I don't want to take that from anybody.
Speaker 2: Listen, I will. I'll make fun of you. If that's
Speaker 2: your whole personality. Is this one season that you cling
Speaker 2: to every year? Not me also having like hundreds of
Speaker 2: boxes with Christmas ornaments.
Speaker 3: That's a different podcast. More More Better, More Better, More.
Speaker 4: Better, More Welcome to More Better, the podcast where we
Speaker 4: stop pretending to have it all together and.
Speaker 1: Embrace the journey becoming a little more better every day,
Speaker 1: or at least trying to.
Speaker 2: That's most of Marrow and that's Stephanie Beutru.
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Speaker 2: your last babe.
Speaker 3: How are you doing. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm excited that we're doing my person together in the
Speaker 1: same room instead of.
Speaker 2: A really fine screen. It's really fun. You're the coffee
Speaker 2: that you made is very good. Oh, thank Youmr.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't get a Yesmr. How am I supposed
Speaker 1: to feel? You feel tired? I already feel tired?
Speaker 3: But why do I feel tired all the time? Why
Speaker 3: would I want to feel tired more?
Speaker 2: To calm your brain, you know, like to relax. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't really work. I don't get that from it.
Speaker 2: I do use the calm app and I listened to
Speaker 2: like stories on there.
Speaker 5: I like the call map. I used to use that
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 3: I love it so much.
Speaker 5: What have you done lately? It's a little more better, staff.
Speaker 2: I did my peloton ride this morning. It was very hard.
Speaker 2: I'm a fool because I was like, oh, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do an endurance ride in our life endurance ride
Speaker 2: and like it's only like at level two on my
Speaker 2: STP and I was the fucking sweating ten minutes in.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I have fifty minutes left of this.
Speaker 3: But I did it. I finished it. I finished it
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: There's something about those endurance rides. It's like the doing
Speaker 1: the same thing for an extended period of time, and
Speaker 1: I know it's good for me. It's mentally really hard, which.
Speaker 2: Is and he said that multiple times. Matt will Person,
Speaker 2: my Peloton boyfriend, said it multiple times. He was like,
Speaker 2: the half of this is the head game of like
Speaker 2: you making sure that you can keep your legs moving essentially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you? What have you done?
Speaker 4: Like me?
Speaker 3: That's more better.
Speaker 1: The kids started school and I have just been which
Speaker 1: kind of maybe falls into our topic today.
Speaker 2: Falls in lo lol.
Speaker 3: I've been give some graphics.
Speaker 2: Here was just some little like leaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been really productive. Yeah, every day I think
Speaker 1: coming fucky.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I've just had like energy.
Speaker 1: I like reorganize the boys room, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: do like other parts of the house and of just
Speaker 1: like things that have been on my mind. I'm actually
Speaker 1: getting done.
Speaker 5: I'm this is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not annoyed at cooking dinner at night like
Speaker 1: I think, cause it's like still fresh, the like routine,
Speaker 1: the switch over into the school time, into the school time,
Speaker 1: into like the schedule, because it's really I mean, I
Speaker 1: love it. We all thrive during summer in the chaos
Speaker 1: of like no schedules. Yeah, it's really not until the
Speaker 1: very and like I know, I can see it in
Speaker 1: the kids that they need more structure and routine when
Speaker 1: it gets close to going back to school.
Speaker 2: I wonder if like the extra chaos at the end
Speaker 2: of the summer though, is because they know they're going back,
Speaker 2: so there's like nerves and anxiety about Like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: so I feel.
Speaker 4: It more better.
Speaker 3: Well that's what we're talking about today. We're talking about fall.
Speaker 2: Your favorite season is my favorite so much.
Speaker 1: Well, I grew up in a place where it was
Speaker 1: like real fall, not like La falla La Fall doesn't
Speaker 1: start to like November Christmas.
Speaker 5: It's weird, which is.
Speaker 2: You know, quite a bit of the country struggles with that.
Speaker 2: I think, like the seasons change, but they don't change
Speaker 2: when when they're Yeah, like as I mean, now I've
Speaker 2: been in LA for over a decade, it's the one
Speaker 2: thing that will still trip me out when it's like
Speaker 2: Christmas time.
Speaker 1: But there's like like trees in La with like red
Speaker 1: and yellow leaves, you know, and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not.
Speaker 3: Right, you're late. But growing up, it was, yeah, it
Speaker 3: was like that.
Speaker 1: Back to school, the like it felt more like New
Speaker 1: Year's than New Year's does, like the start of another year.
Speaker 1: I would take drives with my parents to go see
Speaker 1: like fall foliage.
Speaker 3: Out of here.
Speaker 1: Parents love to go for a drive and we would
Speaker 1: classic classic, Yes.
Speaker 3: Oh wow. Because you grew up on the East Coast,
Speaker 3: you grew up in Jersey.
Speaker 1: I grew up in New Jersey, so it was very
Speaker 1: like you had seasons. You had a strong season, very
Speaker 1: big change.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: And then when I moved to New York too, like
Speaker 1: the leaves. I don't know if they if this is
Speaker 1: still true, but at least when I lived there, because
Speaker 1: climate change, the week of the New York Marathon, the
Speaker 1: trees in Central Park would almost like pretty much be.
Speaker 5: At peak color.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, And it was just you could rely on
Speaker 1: that timing everything that's kind of beautiful, and you know
Speaker 1: that like poets walk that wide walkway with all the
Speaker 1: writer statues, all the trees there turn like bright yellow.
Speaker 1: And the first time I walked through it, I was
Speaker 1: like and then a wind came and oh I.
Speaker 2: Literally yeah, yes, I was like wind machine.
Speaker 3: Now one of those moments you're like.
Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like real life, like this is just
Speaker 1: so beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and then you know, you know I love a sweater,
Speaker 1: you know, I love layers, love blazy, love it. Stephanie
Speaker 1: bought me a tweed wool blazer, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, like the idea of getting
Speaker 2: more better at a fall is really interesting, right, because
Speaker 2: like how do you get more better at a season?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: There are elements of this season that I think, I
Speaker 2: think why we were interested in this is there are
Speaker 2: elements of this season that I don't I don't like
Speaker 2: I would prefer my people are from South America. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there are seasonal changes there. However, the median you know,
Speaker 2: temperature is going to be a crispy eighty six.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad when when I was growing up, my
Speaker 2: dad would be like, God, it's freezing in here, and
Speaker 2: he'd put on a jacket. It would be like seventy four.
Speaker 2: I'm still like this. I almost took a jacket last
Speaker 2: night to a concert that was outdoors last night.
Speaker 3: Seventy four degrees.
Speaker 2: It was warm. I was like, I'm okay, because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna dance, so I'll be I'll like heat myself up,
Speaker 2: it'll be fine. But I feel like there's like culturally, right,
Speaker 2: like if we if we think about fall the season
Speaker 2: as like what's fall cults like? For for sake, of
Speaker 2: the podcast purposes today, we're gonna call it like fall,
Speaker 2: what's fall?
Speaker 5: Culture? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Getting better at find out?
Speaker 5: Yeah, is a culture arguable?
Speaker 2: I mean for some people like their whole culture, or
Speaker 2: some people it's.
Speaker 3: Like it's my right. I don't say, I don't want
Speaker 3: to take that from anybody. Listen, I will.
Speaker 2: I'll make fun of you if that's your whole personality.
Speaker 2: Is this one season that you cling to every year?
Speaker 2: Not me also having like hundreds of boxes of Christmas ornaments?
Speaker 3: That's a different podcast.
Speaker 2: But I do think there are elements of this season
Speaker 2: that are very uh, they're fun to get into, like
Speaker 2: as a yeah, as a like okay, like think about
Speaker 2: pop culture, right, like pop culture and what it like
Speaker 2: every now and then you'll have like this wave of
Speaker 2: something that's like very popular in culture, right, and this
Speaker 2: is the time where this stuff is.
Speaker 1: Like isis made us a list of stuff which is like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how long this list?
Speaker 2: Pumpkin spice, pumpkin patches, apple picking, fall candles, Halloween decorating me,
Speaker 2: high boots. We're gonna come back to that one.
Speaker 3: That one's real.
Speaker 2: That one's a real problem for me.
Speaker 5: Okay, me too.
Speaker 2: Corn mazes trips to see autumn, like you were saying,
Speaker 2: you had a drive with your parents to go see.
Speaker 3: Like corn mazes. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I one of my first jobs in New York was
Speaker 2: in Queens. There was this corn maze and one of
Speaker 2: my fris ran the company that and we had to
Speaker 2: lead people through this cornmes. It was a hell on earth.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely hell on earth. I hate corn mazes
Speaker 2: so much. They're dusty, dry, dirty, and no one listens
Speaker 2: to the rules. Hay rides, bonfires, plaid, big hats, big scarves,
Speaker 2: the Lenny Kravitz and his fabulous big scarf, pumpkin pie,
Speaker 2: apple Pie. I mean, like listing some of this stuff
Speaker 2: is really and like, ooh, Chili, that's.
Speaker 5: A good one.
Speaker 2: I also really love thee Little Morthos, which is like
Speaker 2: right in the fall, Halloween and the Littlesmorthos. Right Halloween
Speaker 2: is the thirty first, theos Morthos is usually celebrated on
Speaker 2: the thirty first, first and second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I.
Speaker 2: Just I really like that part of it, which is
Speaker 2: like this, like I like the ghosty, spooky part of Fall.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love the now we have to change
Speaker 2: all of our clothes to wear like fifteen layers, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be told that it's time. You
Speaker 2: don't want to wear orange in tan.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have anything orange.
Speaker 1: Way.
Speaker 2: I do have a lot of beige, but I don't
Speaker 2: have anything orange.
Speaker 3: Because it doesn't look good on me.
Speaker 5: Bitch.
Speaker 6: I don't like it really, even like like a burnty
Speaker 6: orange kind of.
Speaker 2: Maybe like I've been like a bright orange suit before,
Speaker 2: but it's not like for me.
Speaker 3: Hmm, I hear you.
Speaker 2: I feel like, out of the two of us, this
Speaker 2: is your real time to shine.
Speaker 1: This is although I will say the last few years,
Speaker 1: I feel like fall has started to move towards like
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day or like those annoying like like did you
Speaker 1: notice there was like fall stuff and Halloween stuff in
Speaker 1: supermarkets and like pharmacies starting in.
Speaker 5: Like August this year, yes, like August first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, as somebody who does love Disneyland,
Speaker 2: and you guys already know this about me, so.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like you don't. We went to Disneyland and
Speaker 3: it was already Halloween.
Speaker 1: Halloween, which is fine because let's go let's go stoked,
Speaker 1: like Haunted Mansion was he was.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic, sick that part of fall.
Speaker 3: I'm all about it. I'm like one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Let's embrace it because like there's for me, there's like
Speaker 2: cultural significance there which is like the the what do
Speaker 2: they call it, the the thinning of the veil between worlds.
Speaker 2: Like listen, I'm not necessarily religious, but I am spiritual,
Speaker 2: and I really do believe that, like if you talk
Speaker 2: to your ancestors, they're around you, they're protecting you, there
Speaker 2: with you, and like that's the time of year where
Speaker 2: everybody collectively kind of does it all together. And there's
Speaker 2: this like I think it's it's like old, the old Old.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's from. Maybe I is could
Speaker 2: look it up. I'm looking off camera at ice, but
Speaker 2: like there's this thing called like the wheel of time,
Speaker 2: and it like it it kind of goes through like
Speaker 2: the seasons with you as a human being, and like
Speaker 2: how the seasons affect you and what you should be
Speaker 2: doing during the seasons and like all hallows even like
Speaker 2: I think it's called like Sam Sam Hi Sam, I'm again, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're wrong. You can put it right here on the screen.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called but I like love
Speaker 2: that part of fall because it's like this kind of excuse.
Speaker 3: To remember everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like we make thee little more those altar
Speaker 2: in our house. We like have all the stuff up.
Speaker 2: I have like pictures of my dog, my dog's ashes,
Speaker 2: like like all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the being forced into.
Speaker 5: Pumpkin spicy.
Speaker 2: I don't want it. I don't want it shoved down
Speaker 2: my throat. I don't want it. And also like it's
Speaker 2: this is a like season feels like the lie is
Speaker 2: that it's like cozy and and comfy and you're gonna
Speaker 2: light a candle and like get on your couch and
Speaker 2: get in a blanket and read a book.
Speaker 3: And it's actually ramping.
Speaker 2: Up to the holidays, which is like that part stressful
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part too, I feel that, Like, yeah, when
Speaker 1: September hits, I'm just like, oh God, here we go, Halloween, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: Christmas is cann be here before we know it.
Speaker 7: I found it, okay. Wheel of the Year the year
Speaker 7: annual cycle of seasonal festivals observed by a range of
Speaker 7: modern pagans marking the year's chief solar events, solstices and
Speaker 7: equinoxides and the mid midpoints between them, and then it
Speaker 7: you know, includes like folk traditions, a lot of British
Speaker 7: like Anglo Saxon history, Celtic history.
Speaker 2: Yes, sinking with living with the seasons, living with the seasons,
Speaker 2: celebrating the seasons, celebrate like and aligning like tour like
Speaker 2: this is when we harvest, this is when we save food,
Speaker 2: this is when we plant food. This is what the
Speaker 2: this is what the sky and the you know, like,
Speaker 2: this is what the seasons are doing, this is what
Speaker 2: the earth is doing right now. So like lining up
Speaker 2: with that as opposed to and now. I will say,
Speaker 2: like I'm not trying to be like you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not trying to be like a summer
Speaker 2: bunny when it's fall. Like I'm not going to force
Speaker 2: myself to wear you know, haltertops and short shorts when.
Speaker 3: It's you're not sixty degrees outside. No, oh not I do.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 3: I will say.
Speaker 2: The thing that I love about La fashion is that
Speaker 2: you can wear like pants, flip flops in a trench
Speaker 2: coat like.
Speaker 3: That that doesn't happen anywhere. That is true, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So fabulous. Like sometimes I'll be on my Pinterest board
Speaker 2: looking at outfits, I'm like, I can wear these all year.
Speaker 2: I can do this anytime. Yeah, and these poor other
Speaker 2: people in other cities and seasons.
Speaker 3: Y'all can't. You can't be wearing No, you can't.
Speaker 1: Any other thing that maybe made fall like a bigger
Speaker 1: thing to me is fall, at least when I was
Speaker 1: growing up and on the East Coast, it's like two
Speaker 1: or three weeks long, like it's so short, and then
Speaker 1: it's just cold, and then you're just like, oh, winter
Speaker 1: is here, and oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 2: I kind of like was like, no, under the impression
Speaker 2: that was like August, September, October.
Speaker 1: Was no, No, August is still hot, September could still
Speaker 1: be hot. And then it's like October maybe like the
Speaker 1: first week of November.
Speaker 5: And there's just gold.
Speaker 1: Oh sniffs nap, but there's like two weeks of like
Speaker 1: peak fall weather and just you're like, this.
Speaker 2: Is oh, no, wonder you love it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's yeah, it's like so.
Speaker 2: No wonder people love Gilmore Girls because it's like fall
Speaker 2: for like y episodes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I'm not walking something now, Yes,
Speaker 2: And one of the things that made me like One
Speaker 2: of the first things of about La that I loved
Speaker 2: is like you get to like live and fall like
Speaker 2: even winter here it feels like the fall.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, for months and months and months and it's best.
Speaker 3: Emma, are you changing my mind about getting.
Speaker 1: To wear like fall clothes, like the light layers and
Speaker 1: the little boots and like the I know we've got
Speaker 1: this is discuss the boots for let's discuss Yes, so
Speaker 1: not all boots are equal.
Speaker 2: Obviously, No, not all boots are equal. We have cowboy
Speaker 2: boots up here and then everything else below.
Speaker 5: Let's agree to disagree.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have the right pair of cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: Listen, they're cute in the right don't even circumstance or location.
Speaker 3: Circumstance, what circumstances not.
Speaker 5: They're stiff.
Speaker 1: They're like, well maybe not, they're all of them stiff,
Speaker 1: but they don't like go with everything.
Speaker 3: They're not as like versatile.
Speaker 2: As what are you fucking talking about?
Speaker 3: Where you know?
Speaker 2: I just think that like a good Like you're telling
Speaker 2: me you can wear a writing boot with shorts.
Speaker 3: No, no, you can't.
Speaker 1: No no, But I'm not trying to wear boots with
Speaker 1: shorts like ever.
Speaker 2: I did see some girls this summer wearing writing boots
Speaker 2: with shorts, and I was.
Speaker 5: Like, good for you. I was really push but I
Speaker 5: really loved writing boots and I wore them all the time.
Speaker 3: I do like a writing boot for a fall.
Speaker 1: I like a writing yeah, I do like yeah, or
Speaker 1: just like a really good like Chelsea boot, Like is
Speaker 1: that what it's called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a Chelsea boot For those of you don't know,
Speaker 2: it's like a shorter boot, I'd say, not like an ankle,
Speaker 2: but like maybe like a little a little duller. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it can have like a stacked or cone heel, but
Speaker 2: it's really like a boot that you like pull on.
Speaker 3: You should be able to pull it on you.
Speaker 5: It looks good with everything, It's comfortable.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: I have some of my closets that I maybe should
Speaker 2: have brought today for you because I don't wear them really.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like what I don't like is the do you remember
Speaker 2: the look that was very popular a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago that was like a skinny jean, an over the
Speaker 2: knee swayed boot with a stacked heel, a big white sweater.
Speaker 3: And a big brown hat. Yeah, was like, why are
Speaker 3: you wearing that hat?
Speaker 5: Where you going?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you riding? Like yeah?
Speaker 5: Or is it some protection? Oh my god, did you
Speaker 5: don't wash your hair?
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I bought one of those hats once
Speaker 1: because I was trying to like be in the trend.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never wore it. It's probably still
Speaker 1: in my closet.
Speaker 3: That's what that.
Speaker 2: What's it called the like fall uh like fall girl?
Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's called we have it here. It's called
Speaker 1: the Christian Christian Girl. And it's that famous picture, you know,
Speaker 1: the one you know where I'm looking at it. Now,
Speaker 1: six of these bitches are wearing the same exact boot,
Speaker 1: and I have so many really.
Speaker 3: Clear, we're not making fun of Christianity whatever.
Speaker 1: I just have questions like did one girl buy the
Speaker 1: boots for the rest of the girls?
Speaker 3: Do you think they all called each other and were
Speaker 3: like did they all? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did they all happen to like own the same boot?
Speaker 1: And that was the thing when they showed up a brunch, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, boots.
Speaker 5: But then there's two other pairs.
Speaker 3: That look like guys, it's a bad.
Speaker 5: Blue or green maybe it's bad.
Speaker 1: And then there's a random pair of gray boots that
Speaker 1: I'm guessing maybe she's the Queen Bee right because she
Speaker 1: she was like, all you bitches are gonna wear everyone's.
Speaker 2: Wearing their rest colored boots. Guys, everybody's wearing or the
Speaker 2: dark ones.
Speaker 1: And then she showed up on picture day in her
Speaker 1: gray boots or silver boots.
Speaker 3: He's let's go. Here's the thing I do like. I
Speaker 3: like being a basic bitch.
Speaker 2: I I really enjoy my basic things, Like I love
Speaker 2: my I love my weighted blanket, I do drink a
Speaker 2: pumpkin spice slatt sometimes.
Speaker 3: I love a cold brew.
Speaker 5: I love good prissy too. I never really zoomed in
Speaker 5: on the per.
Speaker 2: These girls are not unfashionable. Oh no, it's like when
Speaker 2: it's the same, but it's the it's just I just
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 5: I just want someone to break down how this happened.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll tell you how it happened.
Speaker 2: I want homogeneous thought like it's like you want to
Speaker 2: be part of I mean, listen, here's the thing, like
Speaker 2: we all want to be part of the club, like
Speaker 2: everybody wants to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the high school thing like never really leaves.
Speaker 2: It never goes away and like, I want to be
Speaker 2: part of a club.
Speaker 3: I want more friends, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, so if you have a uniform that you
Speaker 2: know that when you see someone else, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: those are my people, right, Like those girls with the
Speaker 2: over the knee suede boots.
Speaker 1: Those we're probably going to have other things in common. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. So shout out to the two girls
Speaker 1: that did not wear a hat, by the way, that
Speaker 1: chose no hat. I feel like, I mean, these.
Speaker 3: Girls like each other. They like each other and they
Speaker 3: have fun together.
Speaker 2: And I'll be real honest when I see other girls
Speaker 2: wearing cowboy boots and was yeah, you you're my girl, right.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I read something the other day that was like it
Speaker 2: was in a review of some cowboy boots because I
Speaker 2: was shopping for new cows.
Speaker 5: How many pairs of cowboys? Don't you need to discuss it.
Speaker 3: At this moment, it's seven or eight. Some of them
Speaker 3: are gifted to me, it's not an issue.
Speaker 2: But she was like, these boots are great for those
Speaker 2: those of y'all.
Speaker 3: Those are those of you who.
Speaker 2: Are in they alternative look.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's me. I'm alternative it's me.
Speaker 3: I'm the alternative. Okay, I'm off topic.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you a couple of these
Speaker 2: questions that we have written down. Do you have fall
Speaker 2: activities that you do either yourself or your family that
Speaker 2: you do out of obligation versus versus joy, Like, I
Speaker 2: know you love the season, but like, are there things
Speaker 2: for you that are like I have.
Speaker 3: To do this, this this, This is the time of
Speaker 3: year when this thing happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm trying to think. I do love like a
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice latte. I will, like, for a while, I
Speaker 1: was really into it, and I would buy like the
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's has like just pumpkins spice coffee. It's so good,
Speaker 1: really good, and I would buy it every year and
Speaker 1: then I think I like burned myself out on it.
Speaker 1: But I still weird it's such a small thing that
Speaker 1: I weirdly feel obligated to have a few each cear house.
Speaker 1: Not in my house anymore, but like I have to
Speaker 1: like get a pumpkin space. You have to be part
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, I've got to Like, I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: that time of year, this is when we do this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta do it, but I don't know if it
Speaker 1: brings me joy anymore.
Speaker 5: That's really interesting, So maybe I shouldn't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll do it this year and see how you see.
Speaker 5: Right, I'll survive without my pumpkins spicy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're also doing some other things now, and there's like
Speaker 2: yeah pecans ye.
Speaker 5: Ever, Like.
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was younger, apple picking was
Speaker 1: a big one that happened every year and it was fun.
Speaker 1: But I I feel like the last couple of times
Speaker 1: I did as a teenager, I was.
Speaker 5: Like, where are we going to do? Free labor?
Speaker 3: Like why? Okay?
Speaker 2: Good to remember from when my kid gets older. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's do the tradition and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, I just wasn't yeah as into it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't know that this
Speaker 1: is fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you come home with way too many apples.
Speaker 3: I've never done it.
Speaker 2: This is not something I ever did because they I
Speaker 2: didn't grow up around like apple orchards and stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: foreign idea to me.
Speaker 1: It's very much a Northeast thing. And but you come
Speaker 1: home with a shit ton of apples, what do you.
Speaker 3: Do with them?
Speaker 1: Like make apple sauce, and like if you're not making
Speaker 1: apple sauce and pies, half of them go bad because
Speaker 1: you can't eat that many apples like so, and then
Speaker 1: it's just like I did.
Speaker 2: A play once where I had to eat a whole
Speaker 2: apple and a scene, and I was off apples for
Speaker 2: like two years. Oh I bet green apples that used
Speaker 2: to be my favorite. I can't have them anymore. Yep,
Speaker 2: my favorite too.
Speaker 1: I went through like a few years of childhood where
Speaker 1: I green apple. Kids started to like make little like
Speaker 1: teasing comments because I would, Uh, I walked home for
Speaker 1: lunch every day and I would walk back to school
Speaker 1: with a green apple.
Speaker 5: That's so cute eating it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything so idyllic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Nora Efron scene. I My obligation in the
Speaker 2: Fall is that we go through the closet like we
Speaker 2: go like I call all the clothes, like all the
Speaker 2: summer clothes that didn't get worn, Yeah, like you didn't
Speaker 2: wear this is summer and you didn't wear this last summer.
Speaker 2: And then also all the jackets, which is like do
Speaker 2: you really like this? Did you wear it last year?
Speaker 2: If you didn't wear it last.
Speaker 1: Year, so it's time to get it out like yeah,
Speaker 1: I find I like fall a better time to do
Speaker 1: that than spring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did too.
Speaker 2: It just feels like, Okay, let's let's get it done.
Speaker 2: I do feel this sense of like, let's get it
Speaker 2: done in the fall, like I start to get things
Speaker 2: ready for Christmas, I start to get things ready for
Speaker 2: Halloween like this, Like I will say, yeah, there's like
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bit of that.
Speaker 5: Do you.
Speaker 3: Okay? This is an interesting one.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between seasonal joy for you and seasonal performance?
Speaker 4: Ooh?
Speaker 2: Because I do think like and this is maybe a
Speaker 2: it's different for everyone. I will say, the thing that
Speaker 2: you and I have in common is being mothers. And
Speaker 2: I think sometimes around the fall there is a little
Speaker 2: bit of performative for me at least of like Kates Palloween,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and like get the bunk in yeah,
Speaker 2: or like oh, what do.
Speaker 5: You want to be?
Speaker 3: What do you want to be?
Speaker 2: For I can't even tell you how much girl googling
Speaker 2: I've been doing to try to put together this K
Speaker 2: pop demon Hunter's outfit that she wants and like, I'm
Speaker 2: very stressed about it and I don't and I'm like
Speaker 2: and I can't show it like that to me is
Speaker 2: performative of me to my four year old being like
Speaker 2: yeah and so exciting, And I internally what I feel
Speaker 2: is like I wish that I could do what my
Speaker 2: mom mom did, which was devastating at the time, but
Speaker 2: just like throw me the same pair of ears and
Speaker 2: tail right every year and just be like figure it out,
Speaker 2: you know, like, because that's what my mom did. She
Speaker 2: was like, I don't have time for this, and she
Speaker 2: literally would recycle the stupid the mouse costume and mouth
Speaker 2: the mouse headband broke Melissa, oh no, until it snapped
Speaker 2: one year when we were trigger treating.
Speaker 3: Devastating, awful.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm doing for my kid, But I'm
Speaker 2: also like, you're paying the ass is the pain in
Speaker 2: the ass.
Speaker 1: I made a mistake of asking what do you guys
Speaker 1: think you want to be Valloween?
Speaker 2: And I thought I aided the topic number one.
Speaker 1: I phrased it in a way of like, hey, we
Speaker 1: should start thinking about this so we could decide and
Speaker 1: the next you know, a couple of weeks maybe, and
Speaker 1: then it just like I've said before, Axel's spooky kid
Speaker 1: loves Halloween.
Speaker 5: This is his super Bowl. You can't wait to hear
Speaker 5: it one day.
Speaker 1: He was like watching a toddler spiral, Like he went
Speaker 1: from my god, what were all the costumes he said
Speaker 1: he was going to be. He started as a Stormtrooper,
Speaker 1: then he said maybe a Jedi. Then he was going
Speaker 1: to be a Teddy Bear. Then he was going to
Speaker 1: be a skeleton. Then he landed on skeleton and I
Speaker 1: saw like a glow and a dark skeleton.
Speaker 5: He was like pumped.
Speaker 1: But now he's gone back to and now he wants
Speaker 1: to be Chewbacca.
Speaker 5: But and no, and he wants like a real mask
Speaker 5: and then he'll.
Speaker 3: Take it off halfway through.
Speaker 2: Georgereatm because it'll be hot, because that's.
Speaker 3: What I said.
Speaker 1: And then half the Chewbacca masks look like a dog
Speaker 1: and he was like, it just looks like a dog.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't do you can't say, but
Speaker 1: this is what's available. I don't I don't know, so
Speaker 1: I'm not buying anything until he decides.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is going to be hard.
Speaker 2: I asked Roz last year. We were in Toronto last
Speaker 2: year for Twisted Metal, and I asked her what she
Speaker 2: wanted to be and she was like, I want to
Speaker 2: be a fairy. I was like okay, and she was like, no,
Speaker 2: I want to be a dragon fairy. And I was
Speaker 2: like fuck. So I'm like damn.
Speaker 3: I was going to every children's costume shop in Toronto
Speaker 3: being like.
Speaker 2: Do you have a dragon costume? And do you have
Speaker 2: fairy accessories? Sound a fairy dress and a dragon like
Speaker 2: head with a cake, and then I so lights into
Speaker 2: I cut the head open, I sewed lights into it,
Speaker 2: so like the minute the sun went down and turned
Speaker 2: the lights on, everyone was losing their shit. And I
Speaker 2: was like mentally behind her as every every door opened
Speaker 2: and everyone was like, oh my god, you're a dragon fairy.
Speaker 2: She kept turning around and looking at me like we
Speaker 2: did it, and I in my head, I was like,
Speaker 2: uh no, I now I've set the bar so high. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've said it so high that I never can fail again,
Speaker 2: Like I'm fucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, anyway, Uh yeah, I literally did that.
Speaker 5: With Enzo.
Speaker 1: He started combining Halloween costumes and what was the first
Speaker 1: one I nail. I think it was he wanted to
Speaker 1: be a vampire ninja, and which was a very cool
Speaker 1: idea and we nailed it. And then the next year
Speaker 1: he was like still on that train and he was
Speaker 1: like I want to be a kid from the future
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I want to be a
Speaker 1: cyberpunk and I was like, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Oh, show me pictures showing references.
Speaker 2: Where's your pintustport seven year old?
Speaker 1: I had to find like different parts from everywhere and
Speaker 1: then I found this cool like silver puffy vest. But
Speaker 1: then it was eighty degrees and it was like too
Speaker 1: warm for it. Anyway, it was a disaster. So thankfully
Speaker 1: he's back to just like a costume.
Speaker 2: I do want them to have a great time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it does feel the most performative of the I.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, some moms love Halloween, but and there feels
Speaker 1: pressure to like show a kid that, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a balance, like when she gets older.
Speaker 2: It's like what you said, like this is what's available. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do. I
Speaker 2: can't make magic out of thin air, but it is.
Speaker 2: It does feel like I don't want to show her
Speaker 2: that I hate this because I don't want her to
Speaker 2: feel yeah bad for asking me, because I remember being
Speaker 2: a kid and asking my mom and get thrown the
Speaker 2: same tail and yeah, set of ears for four years
Speaker 2: in a row.
Speaker 3: You know, okay, the financial pressure of buying seasonal everything.
Speaker 3: Now this one. Oh that's not me, that's not me.
Speaker 1: I feel like my mom and I have a friend
Speaker 1: who does this too, would like switch out parts of
Speaker 1: that home decor, like the blankets, the candles, the pillows
Speaker 1: on the sofa would yeah, like there would be winter
Speaker 1: ones and spring ones.
Speaker 6: That feels like so much fucking work, especially like do
Speaker 6: you know how much time I take deciding on what
Speaker 6: throw pillows I want to put on my couch and
Speaker 6: then six months later I'm like, I need no.
Speaker 1: One really, Yes, throw pillows for some reason are.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's just like a really old one. Be cute, that's
Speaker 1: so interesting. Yeah, I have the same throw.
Speaker 2: Pillows for like, probably too long.
Speaker 1: I the ones I have now are probably the ones
Speaker 1: I like the most, and we've had them the longest.
Speaker 1: But already the other day I was like, ooh, these
Speaker 1: these other ones are kind of getting like a little.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh man, what am I should just
Speaker 5: buy that same one? I started a spiral like, oh
Speaker 5: my god.
Speaker 1: So the thought of like finding multiple throw pillows for
Speaker 1: different seasons, for different seasons, also, where are you storing that?
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you're getting the zipper kind and they're
Speaker 1: going but like I've you know, like.
Speaker 5: I got limited storage here.
Speaker 2: Like I think, if it brings you, if you if
Speaker 2: it brings you joy, you do you don't it's I
Speaker 2: would say, it's cheerful. Don't go overboard because that's where
Speaker 2: I get in trouble because I'm like, I'm in home
Speaker 2: goods being like, oh my god, that's so cute.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's cute. Oh my god, that's so cute.
Speaker 2: And then suddenly my car is full and I'm like
Speaker 2: I won't need any of this stuff and I'm never
Speaker 2: gonna use it again, Like it's gonna you know, I
Speaker 2: will do.
Speaker 1: I love get My mom would always get the mini pumpkins.
Speaker 1: I do get the mini pumpkins and I put them
Speaker 1: on the dining table and like the coffee table like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also find this.
Speaker 3: This is like a holiday tip.
Speaker 2: But the the library is such an incredible resource for
Speaker 2: like craft books because Martha Stewart particularly has like a
Speaker 2: line of like holiday craft right, and like there's so
Speaker 2: much good stuff like this year we're gonna cut our
Speaker 2: pumpkins are going to be little fairy houses, like We're
Speaker 2: gonna my sister and I are gonna like stensle them
Speaker 2: and like, you know, like make a little fairy houses
Speaker 2: and stuff and like put little like like.
Speaker 3: Like mushrooms and like little dolls and stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So I want to like get to wrapping
Speaker 2: this up because I feel.
Speaker 3: Like we could talk about this forever.
Speaker 5: I know, I really could.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the nerd stuff for
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, while you look at it, you really thought
Speaker 1: that was Lenny Kravitt in his our big scarf fall vibes.
Speaker 5: Gods, such a good scarf. It's like a throw blend.
Speaker 3: I don't know, a throb blend or is it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like I like the way.
Speaker 1: The top part looks, but that bottom part that's hanging
Speaker 1: is a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, two things, okay. Homo temperous seasonal cycles as a
Speaker 2: fundamental source of variation in human psychology. This is a
Speaker 2: recent study that argued that, despite ample evidence that humans
Speaker 2: are responsive to seasons, the impact of seasonal changes on
Speaker 2: human psychology is underappreciated. So it's like, yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the seasons are changing, but it actually does.
Speaker 3: Affect us in a pretty strong way.
Speaker 2: The researchers made the case that seasonal variation should be
Speaker 2: considered a fundamental factor in understanding human behavior, not just
Speaker 2: an afterthought. So, like the vibe around the season is
Speaker 2: a real thing. It's not just something imagined. It's not
Speaker 2: just like a collective like weird trend, right, Like it
Speaker 2: is an actual thing, like going back to school, getting
Speaker 2: your house ready for the fall, Like feeling like you
Speaker 2: need to like make sure that everything is kind of
Speaker 2: like ready is a real Like it's a real thing.
Speaker 5: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: And then this thing that I thought was really interesting,
Speaker 2: cognitive performance in fall. So this goes back to the
Speaker 2: first thing that you talked about, where you were like,
Speaker 2: I'm on, I'm firing on all cylinders. Research showing that
Speaker 2: people did significantly better on tests of thinking and concentration
Speaker 2: in the late summer and early autumn versus the winter
Speaker 2: and early spring. This wasn't related to mood or exercise levels,
Speaker 2: suggesting that there's something inherently cognitively beneficial about fall, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like all the things, like you know, the
Speaker 1: things we do, like New Year's resolutions, making goals, making whatever,
Speaker 1: spring cleaning, Like I feel that energy more in the fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I feel like I can set goals better, I
Speaker 1: can be clearer, I can what do I want to
Speaker 1: like manifest or like.
Speaker 5: Put energy towards. I'm all the like organizing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel because I feel like New Year's
Speaker 1: you're like burnt out from all the fucking holidays. It's
Speaker 1: like I wanna I just want to sleep. I want
Speaker 1: to think about goals. I wanna do this right now
Speaker 1: and then and then it's like cold, and when I
Speaker 1: used to live on the East Coast, I used to
Speaker 1: get like seasonal depression in winter and that would made
Speaker 1: it really hard to be productive. And then spring is
Speaker 1: like the idea of spring cleaning, like I might purge
Speaker 1: in the spring, like get rid of a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: But I'm not organizing. I'm not like doing something that's
Speaker 1: necessarily productive because I feel like you just want to
Speaker 1: be outside because the weather is finally nice again and
Speaker 1: you want to do like outdoor things, and it's like
Speaker 1: I don't and I'm still.
Speaker 5: Tired from winter.
Speaker 1: I mean, so it makes sense. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: That one makes a lot of sense to feel. Thank
Speaker 1: you science.
Speaker 2: I do think that this one's really interesting because I
Speaker 2: do I know our audience is like a lot a
Speaker 2: lot of different kinds of people hopefully, but I think
Speaker 2: a lot of our listeners are women. Consumer behavior changes
Speaker 2: a lot with the seasons, and like it's influenced by
Speaker 2: activities associated with the seasons, which makes a lot of
Speaker 2: sense obviously. I think marketing wise, we've hit like peak marketing.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna hit it every year. But I
Speaker 2: do feel like that's part of my resistance to fall
Speaker 2: is my own response to some of the marketing yeah,
Speaker 2: is like I don't want to shove down my throat,
Speaker 2: but also like it is happening anyway.
Speaker 3: They're just trying to make.
Speaker 2: Their bags, so like, yeah, you know whatever, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I get that, the like yeah, little rebel inside you
Speaker 2: was like, no, yeah, I don't need to put on
Speaker 2: a spider or jacket the same time at the same time.
Speaker 2: Like culturally, when I see when I'm like in the
Speaker 2: Walmart and I see like Picado, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it makes me feel like, oh I'm here, I'm
Speaker 2: like my people are here, you know, and it makes
Speaker 2: me feel like a part of it. It makes me
Speaker 2: feel like culturally and not being ignored and being like
Speaker 2: catered to, which makes me very excited. Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: I really do love that about this time of year
Speaker 2: when I see more of like my culture reflected in
Speaker 2: like what's happening in marketing and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like when I see like.
Speaker 2: When we were at Disneyland and there's like altars for
Speaker 2: the Ottos and there's like, oh, it was.
Speaker 1: So Beauty's it's beautiful little Ganko murals right there, like
Speaker 1: there's like stuff from Cocoa, and like it makes me
Speaker 1: feel really like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like we are part of the fabric of
Speaker 2: the United States, like our culture, and like we are part.
Speaker 3: Of this season.
Speaker 2: And I also want to invite other people to, like
Speaker 2: if you haven't ever celebrated the little Martos, like maybe
Speaker 2: this is your year to try it.
Speaker 3: Like it's for every buddy. It is literally forever.
Speaker 1: I didn't really celebrate it til I moved here. I
Speaker 1: mean it's cause it's not really celebrated in New York,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, right.
Speaker 2: Like, and I think it's it's got deeply Mexican roots,
Speaker 2: but I think like for everybody it can become a
Speaker 2: part of your fall like celebration because like it's about family.
Speaker 5: It's like beautiful tradition and yeah, more better.
Speaker 2: What did you learn today? I'll tell you what I
Speaker 2: learned that I maybe don't hate fall as much as
Speaker 2: I thought. Yeah, you don't. I do hate an over
Speaker 2: the knee suede boot, who I have worn them.
Speaker 3: Before twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I like feel I don't know, I like feel like
Speaker 2: maybe I don't hate it as much as I thought
Speaker 2: I did, or at least like I don't, I'm not
Speaker 2: as resistant to it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I think my takeaway is I I, until this conversation,
Speaker 1: didn't realize that like fall is when I'm really going
Speaker 1: to get shit done, Like you know, I think I
Speaker 1: just saw. I wasn't as conscious of it until this
Speaker 1: particular kind of fall and this conversation. And I think
Speaker 1: it's good to notice that, to like be maybe even
Speaker 1: more intentional every year.
Speaker 2: It's you know, funny because like when I think of you,
Speaker 2: I think of like fall jeans, a Chelsea boot, a
Speaker 2: brown bag over your shoulder, a laser, and like a
Speaker 2: coffee in your hand, like yes.
Speaker 1: Doing stuff, getting dun god, Yes, yeah yeah, been wearing
Speaker 1: it since my twenties.
Speaker 3: It's classic. It's classic for a reason. Do you feel
Speaker 3: a little more better? Always feel a little more better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do. I think I embracefall culture. Maybe
Speaker 2: not Christian Girl Autumn.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but that particular brand of alternative fall.
Speaker 2: I like alternative fall, alternative Fall.
Speaker 5: Okay, would mind be you guys? Alternative?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: No, sorry, we'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: Okay, bye bye.
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