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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live on a Tuesday dish

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Speaker 2: of the program merely Bo the great Z. What is

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Speaker 3: It is just a it's the compass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna sound like raises around it, like the

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Speaker 2: whoa we got coach. Well, then there we go live

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Speaker 4: Okay, First I want to say congratulations of Christian Kirksey

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Speaker 4: Rashard Higgins retiring as Brown's today, which I think is

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Speaker 4: a pretty cool deal having those guys in the building today.

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Speaker 4: It's also great to have our team in the building

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Speaker 4: starting yesterday was first day of school. As you know,

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Speaker 4: this building is at its best when it has players

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Speaker 4: in here. It's boring when they're not here. So we

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Speaker 4: were very excited to see their smiling faces coming in

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Speaker 4: this building and get some work in yesterday and today.

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Speaker 4: And as you know, phase one we're in the classroom

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Speaker 4: with the guys. Then they're in the weight room. They're

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Speaker 4: on their own in there with the strength coaches. So

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Speaker 4: phase one two weeks worth of getting some really solid

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Speaker 4: work in and I think it's been really positive first

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Speaker 4: couple days, So excited about that. But with that, I'll

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Speaker 4: take any questions.

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Speaker 5: You saved your welcome back address to training camp. What

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Speaker 5: do you do yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of both, Tony.

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Speaker 4: I think part of yesterday is welcome back and checking

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Speaker 4: in on the guys and seeing how everybody's doing, of course,

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Speaker 4: and see where everybody's been. And then you also have

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Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp is another mile post in this and

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Speaker 4: to your point, you have training camp which really kicks

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Speaker 4: off that season. But in a lot of ways, yesterday

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Speaker 4: is the first day of the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 4: You're doing any practicing yet. But what are your expectations

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Speaker 4: for DeShawn as we go through this and how much

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Speaker 4: do you expect him to throw it over the next

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Speaker 4: couple of months? Again, Yeah, he's They have a very

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Speaker 4: very good plan, Deshaun, the medical team of ramping him

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Speaker 4: up and throwing and getting you know, he's doing all

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Speaker 4: the things he's supposed to be doing. When it comes

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Speaker 4: to rehab. So when we get to those points in

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Speaker 4: Ota is a mini camp, we'll we'll go with what's

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Speaker 4: suggested by the medical team. But he's doing a great job.

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Speaker 6: The timeline now crystallized a little bit with Nick Chubb

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Speaker 6: coming off those two surgeries. Do you have a better

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Speaker 6: idea of what how much more time he's going to

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Speaker 6: need to be able to return.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we'll go past you know, today

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Speaker 4: at it. I can promise you he's working very hard

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Speaker 4: early in the morning, he's here, He's he's attacking his rehab.

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Speaker 4: That's the best way I can put it. When he's ready,

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Speaker 4: he'll be ready.

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Speaker 7: In Orlando, Andrews said he was going to start running

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Speaker 7: that week, busy in.

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Speaker 4: Fact doing that, He's I'm not going to get into

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Speaker 4: the specifics of the rehab, but he's doing everything he's

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Speaker 8: Evan, how do you think.

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Speaker 9: The throwing will work out?

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Speaker 10: You think that Jameis will get a ton of work?

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Speaker 10: Would you guys kind of take it easy with Deshaun

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Speaker 10: as you ramp him up, and they will give James

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Speaker 4: We'll try to do whatsever appropriate, Mary Kay, And for

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Speaker 4: me that's leaning on the medical staff and DeShawn and

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Speaker 4: making sure that we have a plan and we'll stick

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Speaker 4: to it obviously with constant communication between all parties. And

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Speaker 4: if there's days where you know, now it's next man up,

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Speaker 4: Jamis will get some more throws, which I think is

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Speaker 4: great for him as well. But we'll we'll really work

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Speaker 4: all of that out as we get into those days.

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Speaker 6: How about your tables, Kevin, Jack, Conflan Wills.

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Speaker 11: And uh do want Howidy income all?

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Speaker 4: They're all doing great. All of them are at different

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Speaker 4: points in their rehab. Those are three different injuries, same position,

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Speaker 4: but three different injuries, so we're going to treat them

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Speaker 4: as such. But uh again, these guys are working very,

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Speaker 2: As far as the offensive meetings at this point, is Dorsey.

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Speaker 5: Is starting to unveil your playbook?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sure. Of course, that's what coach Dorris is

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Speaker 4: a bunch of the things that we're doing. Some are

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Speaker 4: the same, some are different, but coach Dorris is doing

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Speaker 3: Job courting is this time of the year when you

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Speaker 4: Among that offensive Steff, I think, I think you can

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Speaker 4: get a lot of work done in April, both as

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Speaker 4: a team and as a unit, and as a coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: I would tell you it's really fun to watch our

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Speaker 4: or Bubba Coach Dorsey, our position coaches, and then when

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Speaker 4: we finally get out in the field, to watch them work,

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Speaker 4: because that's what we're here to do. So it's fun

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Speaker 4: to watch these guys get going. Now, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 4: in day two, you don't throw the entire playbook at

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Speaker 4: how you put together the schemes and what you're doing

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Speaker 4: this Really this first week is in a lot of

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Speaker 4: on our position expectations, some of the basics of our scheme,

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Speaker 4: and then really spending time with each player and going

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Speaker 4: over an improvement plan, if you will, making sure these

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Speaker 4: guys understand that each one of them is expected to

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Speaker 4: get better and here the we're gonna help them do that.

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Speaker 5: Kids, Kevin. A year ago, the defense was where the

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Speaker 5: offense is. This year, you know, learning a new scheme

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Speaker 5: and everything. How does that change for the defense this year? Now?

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Speaker 5: Coming into the year two, do you sort of is

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Speaker 5: an expectation to be a little farther advanced that you

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Speaker 4: Shorts hit that with the defense yesterday as well. It

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Speaker 4: is year two in the system, so you're building off

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Speaker 4: of a lot of what we did last year, and

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Speaker 4: there's varying levels of understanding. There's some guys that are

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Speaker 4: challenge them. We're gonna obviously in year two, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: add some things and maybe subtract a few things, but

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Speaker 4: we'll challenge each one of these guys, whether they were

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Speaker 6: When you get to the practice field. Some of the

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Speaker 6: offensive changes, are they going to be real noticeable or

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's a good question, Darryl. I

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Speaker 4: think it's probably a better question for you guys when

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Speaker 4: you tell me when when you see it. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's one of those things with us, we love

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Speaker 4: to watch tape of different teams and steal from other

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Speaker 4: certain things within that process that are very very very

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Speaker 4: may be how how we call things or how we

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Speaker 4: rule things. And for any player, an offensive lineman, a

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, some of their rules may change, so it

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Speaker 4: may not be as overt. But I think it's something

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Speaker 4: that happens every season in this league where you have

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Speaker 4: to be evolving. You cannot stay the same. I just

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Speaker 4: think the other coaches in this league are too good

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Speaker 4: and you if you just throw it up on the

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Speaker 4: work this year. I just don't think that's that's fair.

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Speaker 4: I have too much respect for the other coaches and

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Speaker 10: What kind of challenges does it present you that you've

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Speaker 10: got to Shawn coming off the injury.

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Speaker 9: You've got a new.

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Speaker 10: Offensive coordinator, a whole new staff, and new receiver trying

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Speaker 10: to put the whole thing together, and yet you have

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Speaker 10: to ramp him up and kind of take your time.

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Speaker 4: With him a little bit. I think that's our job,

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Speaker 4: Mary Kay, is to put the system together with the

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Speaker 4: are smart about Deshawn's rehab and focus on getting him

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Speaker 4: ready for the season, and when he's ready to contribute

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Speaker 4: in practice, will be out there based on what the

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Speaker 4: medical staff tells us. Now, having said that we're putting

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Speaker 4: constantly trying to get better as an offense, but we're

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Speaker 4: not going to speed to Shawn up just to get

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Speaker 4: the offense sped up.

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Speaker 9: Kevin, along those lines, I mean the running back room. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: you guys have a handful of new guys and dues

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Speaker 9: being the new pause in the room. What's it like

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Speaker 9: just kind of figuring out the day to day when

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Speaker 9: you also have Nick going through the rehab and you know,

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Speaker 9: not being sure entirely what he's going to be able

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Speaker 9: look like day to day in the off season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you guys will be you'll really enjoy watching.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of watching coaches coach, You'll you'll enjoy watching Douce coach.

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Speaker 4: You'll hear Deuce coaching before you see him. He's, you know,

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Speaker 4: somebody that played this game at a high level, has

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Speaker 4: well respected voice in this building, in the league, and

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Speaker 4: certainly in that running back room. Those guys will understand

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Speaker 4: what's expected of them. Like you mentioned, Ashley, there are

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Speaker 4: a bunch of new faces and that's our job as

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Speaker 4: right now, that's a huge part of this offseason program.

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Speaker 4: So that is definitely happening. Happening in the running back room,

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Speaker 4: and to your point, it's happening from player to player

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Speaker 4: coach to player as well, Kevin.

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Speaker 7: Injuries are always part of this and you guys, certainly

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Speaker 7: as you're shared a last year in terms of like

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Speaker 7: any best practices or anything, any major changes in terms

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Speaker 7: these guys as healthy as possible.

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Speaker 4: It's a good question. We look at everything. Certainly, you

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Speaker 4: want to keep guys available to your team as much

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Speaker 4: as you can within reason. We know football as a

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Speaker 4: can be a violent sport and a physical sport, and

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Speaker 4: there's certain things that we know aren't going to change

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Speaker 4: about the game as it's being played. But we always

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Speaker 4: want to be smart about how we operate in this building,

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Speaker 4: whether it be from training, from the weight room, how

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Speaker 4: we meet, how we structure the day. Certainly is something

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Speaker 4: that we're constantly looking at, and if it's if there's

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Speaker 4: a way to positively affect player availability, we'll certainly explore

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Speaker 4: those things.

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Speaker 8: We asked you at the combine working with Ken Norrissey

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Speaker 8: and working on this offense, if there was a shared

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Speaker 8: philosophy that you guys had gotten together. Now that you've

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Speaker 8: had the time to really make a playbook in heading

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Speaker 8: into these workouts, have you identified something that you guys

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Speaker 2: Where are you at on the offensive decision?

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Speaker 6: Mike Ray, Bowl, Kevin, he's found on.

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Speaker 4: What his role is not with the team. Yeah. Coach

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Speaker 4: We've spent a lot of time on that. Chris Bubba, myself,

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Speaker 6: That's another coaching challenge for you guys to figure this out,

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Speaker 5: Is that something that.

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Speaker 4: We're in favor of keeping the foot in football. We're

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Speaker 12: Obviously not taking attendance right now, like you mentioned, but

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Speaker 4: During He's another you know, another one of those guys

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Speaker 4: That's when the doctors tell us he's ready. He'll be ready.

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Speaker 4: It's there. Have you guys been back there. There's construction

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Speaker 4: But they're they're they're doing a nice job back there.

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Speaker 3: A second where you thought about doing the awkward dad.

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Speaker 4: Dance at the final four, there was not a half

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Speaker 2: Right, there you go. How are you doing good?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing? It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It is gorgeous out there today. It really is. That

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Speaker 2: What are you, heart of jim Nance?

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Speaker 3: Come on, that's always insulting that you felt that that

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Speaker 3: But that hounds too, and it's just gorgeous, it really is.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if he's still doing that the Nance Collection. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: What year would that have been? That would have been

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Speaker 2: Why would that hit? When we became aware of living

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Speaker 2: I felt like we went more casual post COVID went

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Speaker 2: all right, so it's all right, there is no Okay,

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Speaker 3: Let's see what vines one. I'm at Vineyard Vines dot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's out so that I'm on their site.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at their quarter zips. There's nothing.

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Speaker 3: So you have a classic, Yeah, you have the Pescadero.

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Speaker 2: None of those are there.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two US Open one. They had a Pebble

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Speaker 3: like you gotta go to eBay if you want. You

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Speaker 2: Oh, so, yes, it's done. It's done. He's out. What

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Speaker 3: Oh, you gotta go to eBay. That's the only place

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Speaker 3: I see him right now. What do you think happened?

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Speaker 2: I'm googling it.

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Speaker 13: Oh, we can go to break and come back with

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Speaker 13: the hot topics of the day if you'd like, I'd

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Speaker 3: Made from one hundred percent Marino wool.

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Speaker 2: I mean this was yeah, this was all this was.

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Speaker 3: I'm linking directly to it off of the Ohio Gulf.

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Speaker 3: How much can Bishop make off of eBay if he

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Speaker 2: I mean, I probably not much. It's gone. Yeah, it's over,

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, which is which is strong.

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Speaker 2: Very nice, very very strong. All Right, anything you can

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Speaker 13: It's truth. I mean it's the real truth. It is

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Speaker 13: everybody's sixteenth. They've been in the building for less than

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Speaker 2: Right, and he's not going to give updates on He's

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to tell you who's not going

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Speaker 2: to tell you he's here and who's not. So it's

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Speaker 2: just you know, it's tough. Yep, it's really really tough.

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Speaker 2: We did have a fun day here today. Christian Kirksey

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Speaker 2: retiring as a Brown, Richard Higgins retiring as a Brown.

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Speaker 2: Kirko will join you, yes, a little bit later, so

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Speaker 2: you have that to look forward to, which is very nice.

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Speaker 2: Our quarterback is going.

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Speaker 3: To speak, we believe so things at some point.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of fluid.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, players were supposed to speak before coach. Now they're

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Speaker 13: speaking after coach.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's possible that Deshaun Watson will be at

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Speaker 2: the podium today and if so, we'll have that for

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Speaker 2: you as the day goes along. Plenty of news in

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Speaker 2: the sports world. Well, we have some numbers that we

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Speaker 2: want to share with you. Social media was interesting this

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Speaker 2: morning for us. I thought, oh, no, we're supposed to

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Speaker 2: act like nobody correct, Oh, it didn't happen, all right,

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Speaker 2: fair enough, Well, how about we take a break, give

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Speaker 2: a would you like that?

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Speaker 3: We'll take a quick time out. Are you referring Jamison?

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Speaker 3: That'd be great too. It's Tuesday, I'm not even it's

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Speaker 3: this thing about the masters in the rundown I'm looking for.

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Speaker 13: This is what I'm most saying. Two fifteen small pay attention.

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Speaker 13: Try you just said the gift fact of the day. Yes,

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Speaker 13: oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. By the way, down twenty percent on

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Speaker 2: the ratings at Augusta for the final round, boring, final round. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's there's not None of those guys moved the

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Speaker 2: needle at all.

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Speaker 3: No Cla needs to win a Grand Slam and then

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Speaker 3: he'll move.

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Speaker 2: The He won't even then, he's not interesting to the

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Speaker 2: non golfer.

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Speaker 3: I thought, it's pretty interesting that after you guys conspired

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Speaker 3: to have me lose that masters that instead of reaching home,

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Speaker 3: instead of racing home to his his pregnant like in

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Speaker 3: the middle, like, all right, here's what we're going to do.

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Speaker 2: Girl's going to take shuffler first. After he takes him,

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend that there's a pregnancy. He was, and he

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Speaker 2: was in on it. We communicated with even in.

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Speaker 13: His post press or he was like, I want to

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Speaker 13: answer your questions, but I need to get.

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Speaker 3: Home to Then he went home and a bar, so

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Speaker 3: for five hours.

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Speaker 13: Trolley house Like the rest of us. He's just like

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Speaker 13: the rest of us. Go here a pregnant wife, come

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Speaker 13: to the bar with me, celebrate. That's fine, that's it,

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Speaker 13: very smart, well done. All right, so we got a

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Speaker 13: lot to get to her off running clear. The Browns

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Speaker 2: Big Day here at the c C mc ooh, baby,

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Speaker 2: Kirko Hollywood one day Contracts retires. Browns. You and Kirko

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Speaker 2: man that I remember. You guys are tight man. He

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Speaker 2: was in there with us a lot.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood was in here a couple of times, not as

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Speaker 3: much as Kirko. He was co he was a captain,

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Speaker 3: He was you know in many ways to face the defense,

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Speaker 3: dog check all that.

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Speaker 2: That was his last year, right was the when the

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Speaker 2: dog check thing became, and that was that was the

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Speaker 2: one where we were like, oh, we're gonna Was that

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Speaker 2: the year where we were picked like the fourth pick

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Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Was that his last year? He had a Baker's rookie

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Speaker 3: year And yeah, yeah, that was pure joy. That camp

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Speaker 3: he is and he's just such a high quality individual.

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Speaker 3: And I remember when he came out of Iowa, he

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Speaker 3: had won the award that was basically voted on the

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Speaker 3: guy basically the best guy with the most heart on

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Speaker 3: the team. He was that award. You know, he lost

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Speaker 3: his father early in life, and I just was always

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Speaker 3: struck by how mature and focused and driven he was.

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Speaker 3: And then he comes here. You know, he's multiple time captain,

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Speaker 3: Walter Peyton Man of the Year nominee with the Browns,

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Speaker 3: Walter Payton Man the Year nominee with the Texans. There

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Speaker 3: are not many people that have done that on two organizations.

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Speaker 3: He's just a he's a he's a great guy. And

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Speaker 3: you think about, you know, from that twenty fourteen draft class,

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Speaker 3: which certainly had some notable flameouts. You know, you had

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Speaker 3: Kirkoh play for nine years and Joeltonio is still going.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's impressive. Impressive.

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Speaker 2: Who would that have been? And who's thews the gam

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Speaker 2: in fourteen?

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Speaker 3: Ray Farmer Ray was yeah, now you are our first

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Speaker 3: two picks in that draft?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 2: John Football and Gilbert?

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Speaker 3: That's right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then Joel Beatonio was our third. Well worked out well.

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Speaker 2: Listen if you if you have three if your first

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Speaker 2: three picks and one of them elicits a gold jacket,

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Speaker 2: not bad, which Joel's on the path for. He needs

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Speaker 2: to stack a couple more, but he's starting to get

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Speaker 2: in the vicinity. He just needs a longevity. Now that's okay, yep. Now,

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Speaker 2: ideally the other two aren't spectacular flameouts and are just

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Speaker 2: our contributors. Sure, sure that would be more helpful.

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Speaker 3: It would make it survive their rookie contracts that would

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Speaker 3: be large.

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Speaker 2: In the league at large. Yes, that has to be

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Speaker 2: a record of players drafted by one team in the

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Speaker 2: first round who did not get a second contract from

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Speaker 2: anyone in the league.

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Speaker 3: Who didn't even stay in the league for their rookie.

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Speaker 2: For the rookie contract. What happened to Gilbert? I'm asking,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Here went to the Steelers. I want to say for

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Speaker 3: a year it got cut? Is alarm clock work there?

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Speaker 3: Because it certainly didn't work here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, all right.

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Speaker 3: Here's our twenty fourteen draft trouble waking Justin Gilbert who

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Speaker 3: played three years in the league, Johnny Manziel two years

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Speaker 3: in league, but Tonio ten, Christian Kirksey nine, Terrence West

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Speaker 3: who played four years in the running back and then

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Speaker 3: this was this was an underrated pick. Here Pierre Desire

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Speaker 3: who played eight years in league and actually got paid

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Speaker 3: quite nicely by both the Colts, and I want to

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Speaker 3: say the Jets, good dude went, great dude, great dude.

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Speaker 2: You want to know where Justin Gilbert is. He's playing

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Speaker 2: for the Sioux City Bandits.

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Speaker 3: He's not playing football. We talked about, so it says,

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Speaker 3: what's what are the Sioux City Bandits.

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Speaker 2: Sioux City Bandits are bolstering the roster twenty four The

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Speaker 2: National Arena foot defensive back Justin Gilbert signed for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty fourth season. This was in December. They just

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Speaker 2: make sure it's the right Justin Gilbert, defensive back, the

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State product. Yeah, this is from this is Sioux City, Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Sioux City band It's bolstering their roster. National Arena League

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Speaker 2: announcing the return of considerable defensive presence with the resigning

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Speaker 2: of defensive back Justin Gilbert. The Oklahoma State product, was

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Speaker 2: the eighth overall pick in the fourteen draft of Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Registering in the Tackles, we mentioned that this will be

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Speaker 2: Gilbert's second season in Sioux City. You mad, so he's

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Speaker 2: still plugging and playing. So in this draft you think

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Speaker 2: his experience is a little different in Sue City than

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Speaker 2: it was here as a rookie in terms of just

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Speaker 2: what comes with playing in the NFL versus whatever that

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Speaker 2: league is.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine going back to that twenty fourteen draft, would.

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Speaker 2: You have had him still playing?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No, isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 3: Not at all? Does that count?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Counts.

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Speaker 3: He's still plugging away playing football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't. I guess it depends on what the

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Speaker 2: how smart you were with your money. It was a

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Speaker 2: frum pick. He was eighth overall, like he would have

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Speaker 2: got so much guaranteed. Hopefully there was some smartness with that.

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Speaker 2: He would need to work, but he wouldn't need to

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Speaker 2: be you wouldn't. I don't know that you would have

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Speaker 2: to grind away playing arena football. Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's an American football cornerback for the Sioux City Bandits,

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Speaker 3: so I told you that he is. He had not

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Speaker 3: played anywhere since twenty sixteen, so he's attempting a comeback.

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Speaker 3: On January thirteenth, twenty three, he signed with the Sioux

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Speaker 3: City Bandits of the Champions Indoor Football League. On December eighteenth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, he resigned with the bands for their

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Speaker 3: first season in the National Arena League. Is that different

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Speaker 3: than arena.

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Speaker 2: Well, that all went away. I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 2: arena football came and went and then was back.

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Speaker 12: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He made He had twenty five million in guarantees in

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Speaker 2: his contract.

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Speaker 13: I say spot Track had him a four year, almost

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Speaker 13: thirteen million dollar contract, including a seven point six million

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Speaker 13: dollars signing bonus twelve point eight guaranteed an average annual salary.

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Speaker 3: Of three point two.

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Speaker 2: They didn't play it out, Yeah, the on over the cap,

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Speaker 2: they just said total guarantees twenty five point six.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It looks like it looks like he ended up around

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Speaker 3: ten point six. There are six teams in this National

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Speaker 3: Arena league. The team's typical payroll budget is six hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand per season. Players usually paid two hundred dollars a

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Speaker 3: week before taxes. A veteran can make two hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty five with potential raises for loyalty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a far cry, far cry. That's wild, though.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't had him still playing. No, go back to

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Speaker 2: you had some comments about twenty fourteen that you were

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Speaker 2: interested in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was to say that draft Originally, if I'm

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Speaker 3: remembering this correctly, we had the fourth pick and we

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Speaker 3: traded it with Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Do I have?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 2: It's before my time on the day to day paying

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Speaker 2: attention to it.

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Speaker 3: Was that I don't think we picked eighth. I think

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Speaker 3: we traded out of it, and that's how we got

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Speaker 3: two first rounders. Anyway, that draft class twenty fourteen draft trade.

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Speaker 3: So the Browns gave the number, The Browns gave up

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Speaker 3: number four and in exchange got number nine, Buffalo's first

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Speaker 3: and fourth rounder the following year. Right, So I did

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Speaker 3: have that right. So at number four, they came up

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Speaker 3: and took Sammy Watkins, Sammy Watkins. Pick five was Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 3: Picked six was Jake Matthews. Pick seven was Mike Evans.

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Speaker 3: Remember the Vikings were supposed to pick eight, and they

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Speaker 3: like they blew it, didn't they get up there, and

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Speaker 3: so we went eighth and picked Gilbert. They picked Anthony

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Speaker 3: Barr Now within a few of that pick, so three

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Speaker 3: before it, Jake Matthews is still in the league today

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Speaker 3: and has had a very nice career. Khalil Mack is

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Speaker 3: a stud. Mike Evans is going to be a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer. Clil Max probably a Hall of famer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: right there, and then behind that, you've got a pick

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Speaker 3: twelve was Odell who for forty years was unbelievables first

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Speaker 3: four years in the league, and Aaron Donald was thirteen.

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Speaker 2: That's the worst. I mean, we're not doing worst misses,

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Speaker 2: but I'll tell you one that I mean, that's bad

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Speaker 2: that that first, But the I mean the one you

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Speaker 2: could have just had Miles and a quarterback, Miles and DeShawn.

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Speaker 2: You could just taken Mad and Miles and Sean from

657
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Speaker 2: Jump Street. That would have solved you know. That's that's

658
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: those are the ones that come back. But thank god

659
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: you got Miles. It could have gone a lot worse.

660
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: You could have gone Trubisky one and then what a mess?

661
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: What a mess?

662
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: All right?

663
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: We've got some jersey number swapping that has happened, some

664
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Speaker 2: of these things official. I think most of the stuff

665
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: we knew, right, So.

666
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: Jerry Alberty, we knew, Judy to three, Jamis Winston five,

667
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Grand delp At nine, Tyler Huntley ten, Roddy McLeod twelve

668
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: this year, Nahim Hines twenty two, Deonta Foreman twenty seven,

669
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Speaker 3: Justin Hardy twenty eight, Devin Bush thirty, Tony Brown thirty eight,

670
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: fifty eight, Jordan Hicks seventy two, Quentin Jefferson seventy four,

671
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: Hakeem I Dentegy eighty one, Michael Woods that's a new number,

672
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: Giovanni Ricci goes eighty seven. Isaiah Thomas with another new number,

673
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: ninety six, and then Cade York thirty six.

674
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: That last one is noteworthy from the standpoint of it.

675
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: Is this the first time that a kicker has ever

676
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: been issued a number that is not a single digit

677
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: or eighteen in the NFL? I know this wasn't Still,

678
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: but wasn't the guy for the Colts? I don't know,

679
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: like Blake and Ship, did they give him like a

680
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: double digit.

681
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: Word number Rodrigo.

682
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Let's say, Usually the NFL you had to be single

683
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: digits or teens.

684
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: He's the one that popped in my mind. But I

685
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: could be completely wrong about it. Let's see, I need

686
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Speaker 3: some pictures, need images. No, No, he was ninety eight

687
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: in college.

688
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: Sure, in college they give him ninety eight, forty eight,

689
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: that type of stuff, but usually in the pros.

690
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: You three and fifteen in the pros.

691
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if this would hold if Cad

692
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: were our starting kicker, if you were to if that

693
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: were to happen and he were to be elevated, I

694
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: would I wondered. You have to wear a single or

695
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: a teen, but you never see him in the NFL.

696
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: You never see a kickers. But the problem is all

697
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: the teens in single digits are now taken by position players, yeap.

698
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: And notable ones.

699
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Notable Yeah, Delpit wanted seven before we got d hop. Yeah,

700
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: he wanted seven. So kickers can now wear Scottish hammer

701
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: was seven, right, seven, but then once that became available,

702
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: So the new rule is.

703
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: No punters because of that. Because of the rule you're referencing,

704
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 3: punters and kickers are now given eligibility to use numbers

705
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: through forty nine and ninety to ninety nine, so it'll

706
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: be just like college. So punters and place kickers can

707
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: go zero to forty nine and ninety to ninety nine.

708
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if we've seen any of but anybody no,

710
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: that's why.

711
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: That's why it was noteworthy to me, like it's the

712
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: first time I've seen one issued. But there aren't any

713
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: other single and team. It was the guy that was

714
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: here with us at the end of last year. I

715
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: only paid it even kicking.

716
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, when everybody got hurt in the first Houston game.

717
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: Riley Patterson wasn't those same He might have been in

718
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: the thirties.

719
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Give one in there.

720
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: He was six and he was thirty six for the Lions, okay,

721
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: and he kicked in in the game with thats so yeah,

722
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: he went one for one.

723
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, because we all held the press were like, well, yeah,

724
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: hopefully this goes well. Yeah, but when whenever d hop

725
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: is done here, that seven will be issued to a

726
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: player position player, and then that'll be the end.

727
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: That might be, Yeah, that could be.

728
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: That'll be the end of it. So from now on

729
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: they're going to be in those numbers. Roster moved yesterday,

730
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: Drew Forbes with the failed physical designations, released him and

731
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: resigned Sam Kamar with an exclusive rights free agent deal.

732
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: On that there, Drew Forbes has been bouncing around. He

733
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: was Prospect X, wasn't he he was? Yell those years ago,

734
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: like he's been.

735
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: Bouncing trying to explain to the young ins about Drew

736
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: four Project X. I mean, all things considered, it worked

737
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: out kind of well for him.

738
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: You know.

739
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: He was drafted in twenty nineteen Prospect X, sixth round

740
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: pick out of Southeastern Missouri State. He played in two

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: games as a rookie. He opted out of COVID, played

742
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: in one game in twenty twenty one, Browns let him go,

743
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: went to Detroit, played a game there, came back to

744
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: the Browns. Played nine games in twenty twenty two. Never

745
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: started a game in his NFL career and now unfortunately

746
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: was released. But last year was actually looking really good

747
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: and then he got hurt.

748
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Didn't he opt out? He opted with COVID, right, She said, yeah,

749
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: So I mean made eleven man. So I'm saying yeah,

750
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: his he went his career, so a few million bucks.

751
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty good, not bad. Yeah, you'll take it. Hey, uh,

752
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: you guys are remember when I signed up for Sunday

753
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Speaker 2: Red Yep?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was not selected? Sad the three point three

755
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Speaker 3: he made?

756
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Sorry you were not selected for the Pines collection. Stay

757
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: tuned for information on future Sunday Red Select opportunities. No,

758
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm good.

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 11: H I'm good.

760
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: You had you had it, You should have launched it.

761
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Speaker 2: You should have been ready to go. It's at AUGUSTA.

762
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: My guy's eight sixteen over last among people who made

763
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: the cut. You should have been ready.

764
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: It's your fault. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Agreed.

765
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Speaker 2: And by the way, like if you're not, I remember

766
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: all the stuff I had to put in. Didn't I

767
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: do that on the show where I signed up for it,

768
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: Like all the stuff I had to put in. I

769
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Speaker 2: am the target. You are, I'm the guy that you.

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Speaker 13: Want missed opportunities said, I don't. I don't get what

771
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Speaker 13: the thought process would that. I'd never No, it makes

772
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 13: no sense. I don't get it at all, makes absolutely

773
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Speaker 13: no sense. All right, we will go around the sports world.

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Speaker 13: Coming up next, Yell's to Clear the Browns Daily on

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Hockinson believes low hits are something that needs to the

790
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: league needs to look into. Where are we supposed to

791
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: hit the abdomen.

792
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: I mean part of the way you get somebody on

793
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: the ground is you take their legs out.

794
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Look, it wasn't go back to the makeup play on Chubby.

795
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: You hate it, hate it, but like it's just part

796
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: of it.

797
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 11: Sucks.

798
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: It sucks that it happened to Nick and at last

799
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Speaker 2: anybody wanted.

800
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 3: You're a little corner break.

801
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

802
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 12: Right?

803
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: You have to be able to tackle people?

804
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: Yes, this excellent's crazy? All right?

805
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Coach Prime will only allow his son Shahdur Sanders and

806
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: cornerback Travis Hunter, who's the more notable of the two,

807
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: to play for the following six NFL teams in twenty twenty.

808
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: Way, I don't know that he has the right to

809
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: allow them to only play for these.

810
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: Well, he could do it. Archie Manning did eli. Travis

811
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Hunter is he's sure thing like he's a dude. But

812
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: he also hasn't been healthy. I mean he got banged

813
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: up last year because he had him play in corner

814
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: and receiver and eighty plays now a game. These are

815
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: the six Niners, Cowboys, Washington, Baltimore, Atlanta, and Philly Washington.

816
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: Just because he played there, that's what obviously the guests,

817
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: right and then Philly. Yeah, I don't know.

818
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: So, like, I find this hard to believe that you

819
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: would He would not allow them to play for McVeigh

820
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: in LA. Right. He would not allow them to play

821
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: for Harbaugh in LA in a dome where he talked

822
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: about how important that is. Yeah, he would not allow

823
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: them to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers, right right.

824
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, he.

825
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: Would not allow them to play for the Houston Texans, Miami, Miami.

826
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: I think ver Broncos in his own state. They give

827
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: him luxury passes and all that. You can't believe with

828
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: the Broncos. For the Broncos, that's weird. Yeah, can't play

829
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: for a New York based team. Can't go be the

830
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: franchise of the New York Giants.

831
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Speaker 4: Right.

832
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: This is here's why this look everything with him is

833
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: for a reason. So the transfer portal opened today in

834
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: college football. So right now is free agency. You have

835
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: until I think May one, everybody on every roster can

836
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: go to another team right now with no penalty. Okay,

837
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: so you want Jeremiah Smith, the can I keep telling

838
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: you about it, Ohio State the freshman. Let's say you're

839
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: big money booster at Emery, and you're like, which you are,

840
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: and you say, you say, we want him to play.

841
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: I want him to be my receiver. And you contact

842
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith and you say, I got ten million a

843
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: year for you to come play receiver at Emory and

844
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: he goes, that sounds great. He could go there and

845
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: play right now. Okay, So that's where we're at. So

846
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: what I think this is about is remember me. Remember

847
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: remember when I started three to one and ten million

848
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: people were watching our games. That's what this is. This is,

849
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: this is remember me. Because he doesn't want to recruit.

850
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: He said the most stupid thing I've ever heard. He

851
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: does not visit high school recruits. And I think he

852
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: signed less than five kids in this last class. He

853
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: doesn't visit high school recruits because if I start visiting one,

854
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: I got to visit all of them. Yeah, that's the job.

855
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: So he's trying to build these teams in the portal entirely.

856
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: He lost twenty three kids. He has twenty five coming

857
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: in in the portal.

858
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: He lost twenty three yeah wow.

859
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's trying to build this team on the fly,

860
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: and I think he's just trying to get his name

861
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: out there.

862
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of pressure though, because I

863
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: I definitely don't think he's going to be able to

864
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: dictate this to the net, like, no, it's gonna be

865
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: like I think, you know, every great player that comes

866
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: to Colorado's only gonna play for these teams.

867
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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know that he's going to

868
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: be there even after this year. I think this thing's

869
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: gonna end spectacularly. I really do. Yeah, you can't build

870
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: a college football team without recruiting. He really can't. Now,

871
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: not sustainable.

872
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: He was able to do it through the sheer power

873
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: of his will and his personality and his celebrity at

874
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: a much smaller scale like.

875
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: He was able to when Jackson, mean right, yeah, but

876
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: now at a place like Jackson, his son, who's clearly

877
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: a Division one talent quarterback, and Travis Hunter is a

878
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: five star.

879
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: Stud Oh, the best players in the league.

880
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Not only that, there's nobody in the vicinity of them,

881
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: right right, So if you have two or three of

882
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: those guys, we're good. Yeah, at Colorado doesn't work that way.

883
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: They're playing in the Pac twelve this year, they'll play

884
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. So that's easier than what the

885
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: PAC twelve was. But no, it doesn't work that way.

886
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: And so you look at Travis Hunter. He was Travison

887
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: was a number one player in the country. He's going

888
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: to Florida State and Dion stole him to go to

889
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: Jackson State. His just think about it from the perspective

890
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: of if you're Travis Hunter. He had him playing both.

891
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: He'd go run routes and then he'd go cover. He

892
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: wore out. I mean, he broke down in four games.

893
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: He got hurt in the Colorado State game, and that

894
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: what he was done for multiple games after that. So no,

895
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: I think this is going to end spectacularly bad. I'm

896
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: rooting for him because he's interesting. I'm a fan of interesting,

897
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: but I just quite his plan is flawed. It's not

898
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: at all sustainable.

899
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: It feels flawed.

900
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Patrick mahomes on the cover of Time magazine the

901
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: most influential people in the world, were we at all right, I.

902
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: Would argue he is currently and as good as great

903
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: as he is, he's not even the third and most

904
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 3: he is the third. I'm sorry, he is the third

905
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: most influential person in the chiefs orbit right now?

906
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because the other two are connected.

907
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: That's right.

908
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is Patrick mahomes on? If you did an

909
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: American athlete ranking like popularity wise globally, where's.

910
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 4: He on that?

911
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: Number one? Is the Rock.

912
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Or Lebron?

913
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Number two was probably Lebron?

914
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's take Lebron, Take Rock out of it, because

915
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: that's entertainment. Like that's like, that's that's kind of like

916
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: take him out of it. I'm just saying, like they

917
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: even called that, it's it's entertainment.

918
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: It's professional wrestling. My friend's We're not saying sports and

919
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: entertainment anymore.

920
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 6: They're not.

921
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: No, oh, I missed the memo. I missed that last night?

922
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: How did I miss that?

923
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: Are they going to have to do the because of

924
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: Vincent Kennedy McMahon is not there anymore for a good reason.

925
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: So now they're like pro wrestling? Is that what he

926
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: wanted it to be?

927
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: You wanted to be sports entertainment?

928
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so now it's pro wrestling. Are they gonna have

929
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: to like stay in character.

930
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: All the time?

931
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: The Rock's already Nay, the Rock, I know, but like

932
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: the rest of them, like James used to tell me, Lauren,

933
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: and as you say, like his dad when he would

934
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: go get on a plane. He was in makeup.

935
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Fay had to keep back.

936
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: Now now they're too smart. So like when you interview

937
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: him though, like do you have to interview character or

938
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: as he probably can do either, Okay, because like you know,

939
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: miss will be on with us. Yeah, we get something

940
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: to some miss some.

941
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: But often the guy's characters now are them but amplified, Yeah,

942
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: turned up? All right, fine, take the rock out, take

943
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: the rock out? Fine, yeah, Lebron, he's one. Does it

944
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: have to be a current player?

945
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: It could be like a recent no currently playing, because

946
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: I think that's you're gonna get to where I want

947
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: to go.

948
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: With this isman currently playing it's not American, well.

949
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: He would be.

950
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 2: He'd be at the top of the American born American

951
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: born American born athletes with the most power globally, So

952
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: it would be and I'm not going to be I'm

953
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: not going to go with current I'm just gonna say,

954
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: maybe this is making your point.

955
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: But Lebron Michael Jordan, Okay, so that Tom Brady, yep,

956
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods.

957
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 2: Brady's well behind Brady's not globally, he's well, it'd be Jordan,

958
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: Lebron Lebron, Jordanorgan Tiger. I bet Lebron is probably now

959
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: I think about Jordan brand I don't like globally I wonder,

960
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's nobody, I mean, So this is

961
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: my point. Yeah, my Lebron is thirty nine years old. Yep, okay,

962
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: there has been a And by the way, Lebron James

963
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: in year twenty at thirty nine years old, you see

964
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: the stat led the NBA and fourth quarter scoring this year. Yeah,

965
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: at forty he's unbelieved. It's crazy nuts, all right, So

966
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: Gibby's texting me, all right, sounds good? All right, Okay,

967
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: most you think about this, think of the lineage Bird Jordan,

968
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: because basketball is the most globally accessible sport that we

969
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: have in our country by far in terms of everybody

970
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: in the world.

971
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: Hence non American born Yeoman.

972
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, shohe tany doesn't count Jordan or up magic

973
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: bird Jordan. And then there was a passing directly to

974
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: Kobe Coch in that era, all though Shaq was in

975
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: there too, but it was Kobe then eventually took it.

976
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: Then Lebron, who's next American born NBA? Because Steph Curry

977
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: is winding down I mean thirty six, He's not next,

978
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: No Durance, not next. Yoki is gonna win his third

979
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: MVP continues to not be American, continue always Yeah, it's okay,

980
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: so baseball American born baseball Mike, and that sport is

981
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Mike Trout.

982
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: Mike Trout could walk down the street right here and

983
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 3: eighty seven percent of the people.

984
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: In this would not know who he is.

985
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: That's in good shape though.

986
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Right hey, you play a little safety.

987
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: I believe our quarterback is coming to the police again.

988
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: This is such a all right here, we're gonna go

989
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: there now.

990
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go now.

991
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: All right.

992
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: By the way, you're listening to w k N R

993
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Good Karma brand station, you know specifically.

994
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 5: Throwing wise that you know, maybe the ramp up process

995
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 5: that you're looking at over the next weeks and months.

996
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 9: Yeah.

997
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 14: So we have a very custom mize program for my shoulder,

998
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 14: you know, with the help of you know, myself, the

999
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 14: training staff, the Browns, doctor el trashot in l a

1000
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 14: elite ulta sport and you know Quincy Billy really my

1001
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 14: whole team Tom down in Jacksonville. Yeah, we just put

1002
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 14: a process that can you know, ramp up, and that's

1003
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 14: just right for you know, the right timing to come

1004
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 14: back and be able to be full go. And I

1005
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 14: think in this process right now, it's all about low

1006
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 14: management and not doing too much even though I probably could. So, yeah,

1007
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 14: we just made sure that we take it the day

1008
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 14: by day and we do exactly what everyone came on

1009
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 14: you know, months before, got on that call and we

1010
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 14: put the play and together just to make sure we're

1011
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 14: on the right track and stand, you know, stand on

1012
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 14: the right track and not get ahead of ourselves.

1013
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 6: Responding to what you have done to this point, how

1014
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 6: is it feeling?

1015
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: How you feel?

1016
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 14: I feel really good, very confident in myself and the

1017
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 14: process that's going shoulder has been really well. So just

1018
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 14: making sure that I don't do anything extra that's gonna

1019
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 14: harm it or or anything like that.

1020
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 11: So I think that's the biggest thing.

1021
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 14: That's exactly what you know, doctor Eltrosh and the guys

1022
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 14: told me is don't try to do anything extra and

1023
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 14: rush back. So just follow this the script and the

1024
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 14: and the plan and you'll be exactly where you wanna

1025
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 14: wanna be, even even better than before.

1026
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 4: Patient. Are you following orders? Yeah?

1027
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 14: I try to do just just naturally for myself, I

1028
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 14: try to do a little bit more, but you know,

1029
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 14: Joe and those guys are keeping me tained and making

1030
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 14: sure that I'm just doing exactly what the programs say.

1031
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 14: If it's eight reps, then do don't try to do

1032
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 14: too much afterwards, because you know, they're their sperts and uh,

1033
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 14: you know, I got to follow their lead, and especially

1034
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 14: doctor Ala Trash, the surgeon who you know, been doing

1035
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 14: the shoulders for a very very long time, especially a

1036
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 14: lot of baseball guys. So you know, my time in

1037
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 14: LA has been great. Learned a lot from their staff,

1038
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 14: other players and other athletes. That's so that's a part

1039
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 14: of that. You know, baseball to football, to tennis, golf,

1040
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 14: all all types of guys and ladies that was out

1041
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 14: there in that facility.

1042
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 11: I was able to talk to and and kind of

1043
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 11: we can feed off each other.

1044
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 6: What you planning or hoping to be for a percent again.

1045
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 11: I'm not sure.

1046
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 14: I mean the plan is to you know, come back

1047
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 14: whenever they they feel like, and I feel like we're

1048
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 14: on the same page every ready, So there's not a

1049
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 14: timeline or a date that we have that you know,

1050
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 14: this is when I'm gonna be one hundred percent.

1051
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 6: You know.

1052
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 14: It's just kind of you know, how the process. It

1053
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 14: can be sooner than later, it can be later and soon,

1054
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 14: you know. So I think he's just really depending on

1055
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 14: how each landmark we hit and how fast we can

1056
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 14: get it, and how my shoulders reacting.

1057
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 6: It's fluid, it's it's it's unclear to you at this point,

1058
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 6: like when you're gonna be you know, back your normal

1059
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 6: self and it's going to hinge on, like you said,

1060
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 6: whether and.

1061
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 4: How your shoulder responds.

1062
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure.

1063
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1064
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 14: I mean everything that we're doing is I'm doing everything

1065
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 14: that you know, the doctors have planned out. So if

1066
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 14: it's throwing sixty balls, if it's throwing forty balls a day,

1067
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 14: if it's throwing it varies, you know, and they have

1068
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 14: a very strategic.

1069
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 11: Program for my shoulder. So it goes, you know, up down,

1070
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 11: up down, you know.

1071
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 14: I guess, you know, for me, I just take it

1072
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 14: one day at a time because I don't know the

1073
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 14: strategy really behind, but I just know that the plan

1074
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 14: is just gonna work out, So I just follow their

1075
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 14: ideas and their game plan.

1076
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: Like how Dad, is this this coming up season for you?

1077
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: The first two it didn't go at all like you, So,

1078
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: how how big is this third.

1079
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: Season gonna be?

1080
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 12: UH?

1081
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 14: For me, it's UH, it's another opportunity for myself to

1082
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 14: just get on the field. I I'm not making it

1083
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 14: bigger than what it it naturally is. If I would

1084
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 14: have played the full year and we would have won

1085
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl, it would have been the same same

1086
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 14: idea and vice versa. So for me, it's just taking

1087
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 14: it one day at a time, building a lad leadership

1088
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 14: that we built and carried over from last year, and

1089
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 14: and getting this team exactly what we need to get

1090
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 14: to UH and get ready to play each and every week.

1091
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: For you to get back this first UH based season yet.

1092
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 14: But for me, it's always been important. I don't think

1093
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 14: my whole career outside of yeah, yeah, I've been outside

1094
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 14: of COVID, this is UH. I mean I've always reported

1095
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 14: on the first day, So it's always been important for

1096
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 14: me to just get around the guys, get with the team, UH,

1097
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 14: build that that chemistry, build that friendship, build a that

1098
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 14: locker room that we you know, we had last year.

1099
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 14: And it starts split of course the quarterbacks and if

1100
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 14: you know we're in here leading by example and every day,

1101
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 14: putting in an extra time. Everyone else is gonna see

1102
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 14: us and follow and so this it's always been very

1103
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 14: important for me. But also just me being in you know,

1104
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 14: the facility and being around the coaches and being around

1105
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 14: the players.

1106
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 11: Is I love doing it.

1107
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: This is what I love to do.

1108
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 11: This is why I do it. Is just to be

1109
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 11: able to be around football and everyone. That's a part

1110
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 11: of it.

1111
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 12: What you gonna be because like also you know you're

1112
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 12: assistant waiting to know.

1113
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 15: Him how loicle candidates offers of program be for that

1114
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 15: connection with you.

1115
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 11: Guys, it was very very good. You know the time.

1116
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 14: That's one thing you can't get back is time. And

1117
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 14: you know the time, like you said, just for me

1118
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 14: being here face to face, being able to hear his

1119
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 14: voice here, excuse me here, how he communicates, hear how

1120
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 14: you know he runs staying call stings a little bit

1121
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 14: different than Kevin our AVP did the previous two years.

1122
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 14: You know, it's good to be around that and we

1123
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 14: can kind of communicate. He can do the same thing

1124
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 14: for him. Uh, you know, get around me and see

1125
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 14: how that I operate, how I learned what's good, what's

1126
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 14: not good, what we want to change and Yeah, we've

1127
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 14: been doing that in the first two days. We've had

1128
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 14: a lot of conversation and a lot of meetings and

1129
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 14: it's been very good.

1130
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 5: Pressure.

1131
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 6: Now you're a lot of the classroom and you can

1132
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 6: talk football. That's your impression of the tweaks and changes

1133
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 6: that Dorsey and coach Tafanski playing to implement offensives.

1134
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very really good.

1135
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 14: I mean, a lot of opportunities for the receivers to

1136
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 14: be able to really showcase their skills, a lot of

1137
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 14: guys moving around, a lot of guys being able to

1138
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 14: play different spots, and then myself to just be uh

1139
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 14: free and not really kind of controlled in a sense.

1140
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 14: It's really just kind of go out there and be

1141
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 14: able to, you know, showcase spread offense, throw it around,

1142
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 14: run around and make some place happen. So that's very

1143
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 14: exciting for myself.

1144
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 10: How do you sort of work through the issue of

1145
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 10: ramping up and not rushing yourself and then not rushing

1146
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 10: you but also installing a whole new offense, getting to

1147
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 10: know a whole new coordinator, getting timing down with Jerry Judy.

1148
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 10: How do you bake that all work together.

1149
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 11: It's part of the plan. It's actually part of the process.

1150
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 14: So everything that you know I said that we you know,

1151
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 14: as a group, collective group from la to Jacksonville to

1152
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 14: when I said Jacksonville, this is Tom you know, the

1153
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 14: staff here, doctor elatrosh out in la Quincy, my QB trainer, Billy,

1154
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 14: my personal trainer.

1155
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 11: We all are on the same page. So everything that is.

1156
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 14: In the game plan in the process is aligned to

1157
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 14: be able to have those check marks, those timing and

1158
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 14: get with the receivers. Okay, cool, in two weeks, maybe

1159
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 14: we have the opportunity to throw to the receivers you

1160
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 14: know when we step on the field.

1161
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 11: Just continue to take it.

1162
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 14: And that's why I have to take it one day

1163
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 14: at a time because if I try to rush that process,

1164
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 14: then might set us back in my extend, you know,

1165
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 14: you know whatever that game.

1166
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 11: Plan maybe leads to.

1167
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 14: So everything is aligned with that as far as the

1168
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 14: new offense, the timing with the receivers, with my skill

1169
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 14: set getting on the field.

1170
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 11: So I'm doing everything that I can to make sure

1171
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 11: I follow that.

1172
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: Have you been able to like let one go yet

1173
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: or still too early in the process.

1174
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 14: I mean I've been able to throw. I think it's

1175
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 14: still early to really let go when you say let

1176
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 14: it go as far as like talking like fifty yards,

1177
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 14: don't feel or yeah, I'm throwing speed. Everything is fluid motion,

1178
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 14: no hinge or and when I say hinging, you know

1179
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 14: my release point when I'm throwing and things like that.

1180
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 14: Everything is fluid and motion is really good. The velocity

1181
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 14: and the strength is really good. So it's been it's

1182
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 14: been well.

1183
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 5: You repected, Like when we get to ots and the

1184
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 5: team gets on the field, do you expect to be

1185
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 5: able to participate.

1186
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 11: A recent some of those were practicing.

1187
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 14: Uh, that's the plan. You know, we we talked previously

1188
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 14: about that. I think we gotta see how these next

1189
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 14: couple of weeks ago. I know for doctor latrosh he

1190
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 14: he wants to be a little bit more conservative just

1191
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 14: because you know it is Ah, it was a joint,

1192
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 14: you know, the Glenoyd laboring. Uh, so he wants to

1193
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 14: really make sure that we're not doing too much. And

1194
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 14: other espers that was a part of it said the

1195
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 14: same thing. You know, this is a an injury that

1196
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 14: you you know, for spring, you know you wanna may

1197
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 14: be a little bit more conservative and then you know

1198
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 14: this summer and get ready for training camp. That's when

1199
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 14: there's gonna be a time where we can pick that up.

1200
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 14: So I think he can go either way for for

1201
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 14: that in the next couple of weeks.

1202
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: Haven't changed at all, No, sir, The laboring are paired.

1203
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 14: And what was the the glenoy boone, No, not the

1204
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 14: full labor room. So the glenoyd the bone that chipped

1205
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 14: off in my joint. It's called the of course the glenoy,

1206
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 14: which is attached to the labor. So when the glenoy

1207
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 14: came off the bone, it was the laboring was the

1208
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 14: one that was hanging the bone. So he had to

1209
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 14: pretty much repair that and put that together. So he

1210
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 14: just pretty much made sure the laboring was was good,

1211
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 14: but there wasn't a full labor and it was just

1212
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 14: a partial of the labor that was connected to the glenoy.

1213
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 6: What was your reaction when changing ob pensive coordinators was made.

1214
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 14: I mean, it's part of the business, you know, it

1215
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 14: was it was, you know, I kind of heard through

1216
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 14: the weeds of you know, there might be a change,

1217
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 14: but I wasn't sure. You know, that's every opport, that's

1218
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 14: every NFL team you know going into it that there

1219
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 14: might be changes. Coaches might be leaving coaches might get fired,

1220
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 14: but you know, me and AVP have a great relationship.

1221
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 14: We built that over the last two years. You know,

1222
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 14: we went to dinner, talked about vacation and still talk

1223
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 14: to today. So you know, I think he's gonna do

1224
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 14: a hell of a job over there in New England.

1225
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 14: And then of course, you know when with Dorsey here,

1226
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 14: he's gonna do a take up a job for us

1227
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 14: to be able to try to take this offense to

1228
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 14: another level. So as far as my reaction, of course,

1229
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 14: you know I love a VP, but you know business

1230
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 14: is part of this and you know that's side of

1231
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 14: my control.

1232
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 6: Did you think that, uh, that Dorsey's offense is more

1233
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 6: adaptable to to.

1234
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: To your strength?

1235
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 14: I mean, I I guess, so, you know, I'm still

1236
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 14: learning the Dorsey's offense. You know, I know he had

1237
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 14: quarterbacks like you know, Josh Allen, cam Newton, you know,

1238
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 14: running his offense, and those are very similar guys to myself.

1239
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 14: But uh, for me, I just try to whatever offense

1240
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 14: is getting called, I try to a secute as best

1241
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 14: as I possibly can, so you know, hopefully, yeah, it'll

1242
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 14: be able to showcase my skills that you know I've

1243
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 14: shown before.

1244
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: In the sleep.

1245
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Does it matter of who calls the plays?

1246
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 11: No, they don't.

1247
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 14: Doesn't it matter because they both work together, so they

1248
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 14: both have the same mindset. They both have the head

1249
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 14: sets and communicate. So for me, whoever calls the plays is,

1250
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 14: you know, gonna call the plays. We as the offense

1251
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 14: and as a quarterback, we still gotta go execute and

1252
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 14: go out there and perform.

1253
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 6: On setting the rehab process here aside. And I know

1254
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 6: that's tough to do because you're going through it right now.

1255
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 6: But just strictly from a football perspective on the field,

1256
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 6: what do you hope.

1257
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 4: Is better for you this coming year?

1258
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 14: I don't hope for anything. I mean, my expectations is

1259
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 14: super high. And just like everybody else that is a

1260
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 14: part of this team, a part of this organization, fans,

1261
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 14: everyone has a high expectations, especially for me and being

1262
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 14: the quarterback, being the type of player that I am,

1263
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 14: being the NFL player I am, so I think the

1264
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 14: expectations is high. I don't think that is a secret.

1265
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 14: So for me is to go out there and perform

1266
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 14: very very high to lead us to an opportunity to

1267
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 14: go get the ultimate goal. And but first it starts

1268
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 14: now in the spring building that leading into a train accump,

1269
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 14: taking care of our business in the division, and then

1270
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 14: you know, you'll see what happened. We get the opportunity

1271
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 14: and the big dance and see where we go from there.

1272
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 14: But you know that's a long way from here. We

1273
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 14: gotta focus on, you know, what's right now and being

1274
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 14: president in a moment. But I don't have any hopes.

1275
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 14: I know exactly what I'm capable of doing and and

1276
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 14: and being, and you know, we just gotta go out

1277
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 14: there and have the opportunities to do it.

1278
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: What was what's been tougher through the soul process, the physical,

1279
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 5: the pain, you know, dealing with the pain or the

1280
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: patients you have to you know, because you talked about

1281
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 5: the specific play and you know the way they're they've

1282
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 5: set it up with load bands and everything.

1283
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: You know, the patients you have to show to.

1284
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 5: You know, recover fully to get back to where you

1285
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 5: you hope to be.

1286
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 14: If I had a pick, I would say neither. But

1287
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 14: because the pain haven't really been a problem. And now

1288
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 14: I think that's one thing that doctor Eliatroce was super

1289
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 14: super surprised, especially when I first got to him in November,

1290
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 14: is how did I play in the Baltimore game, really

1291
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 14: the Cardinals game too, but especially the Baltimore game. He

1292
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 14: was he was amazed by that. But so if I

1293
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 14: can play through that right now, the Glenord is helled,

1294
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 14: you know, and it's just building that endurance and the

1295
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 14: management of just throwing football is constantly and not getting

1296
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 14: it tired.

1297
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 11: So I think that part is is good.

1298
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 14: As far as being patient, I mean, I've I've gained

1299
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 14: and learned how to be patient the last three years.

1300
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 11: So for me, uh, that's not a big part either.

1301
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 14: I think it's just honestly, just stay focusing and on

1302
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 14: track of what they're allowing me to do and just

1303
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 14: taking it one step at a time. And if I

1304
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 14: can do that and focus on myself to be the

1305
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 14: better person, be the better uh teammate and player that

1306
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 14: I can be through this process, then I think that's

1307
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Speaker 14: the best thing that is.

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Speaker 10: There some thought that perhaps you suffered the fracture before.

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Speaker 9: The Baltimore game, that you maybe had some of the

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Speaker 9: fracture going.

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Speaker 4: Out in the garden.

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Speaker 11: Uh, it's possible. I'm not I'm not sure.

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Speaker 14: He was just amazed how I was able to play

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 14: those two weeks dealing with what the pain as ports,

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Speaker 14: especially for what he's seen, uh over his years with

1316
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 14: baseball guys, not really football guys, but baseball guys that

1317
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 14: kind of dealt with, uh, you know, shoulder injuries.

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Speaker 4: As I'm sortain.

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Speaker 10: What, why do they think perhaps now that because we

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Speaker 10: of course thought that you fractured the shoulder during the

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Speaker 10: Baltimore game like first half and came out.

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Speaker 4: And played that amazing second half.

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Speaker 2: But w what's the new you know.

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Speaker 10: Information here, Like why do they think maybe you suffered

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Speaker 10: it earlier?

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Speaker 4: And when do they think that you suffered it?

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Speaker 9: And do you remember when you might have suffered it now?

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Speaker 14: I don't really remember. I was just of course from

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Speaker 14: the Tennessee game, I was dealing with, you know, just

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Speaker 14: shoulder injuries. So I think, uh, you know, with him

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Speaker 14: just over his years, just kind of he don't know,

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 14: you know, cause it don't really happen in football with

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Speaker 14: this injury. It's a lot of baseball guys. So for him,

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 14: it just goes back to his baseball experience. Uh So

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 14: that's why he was just kind of worried. No one

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 14: knows when it actually happened or when that bone actually

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 14: came apart.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 14: I knew for for sure in Baltimore though, because I

1340
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 14: heard some clicking sounds and and that's one of the

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Speaker 14: indicators that you know something is wrong with that joint.

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01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 14: But uh, that's probably a question for doctor la Trosh

1343
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 14: and why he pretty much said that. I just know

1344
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 14: that he was just very amazed how I finished both

1345
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 14: of those games.

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01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 10: Cancer could have happened on that hit in the in

1347
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 10: the Titans game. Are you saying that even all the

1348
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Speaker 10: way back to then and the rest of the shoulder

1349
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 10: prums that you suffered could have been tied to that

1350
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 10: original hit.

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Speaker 11: Possibly, possibly, I'm not I'm not. I'm not even sure. Yeah, possibly,

1352
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 11: So you played preseason games? Now, I think that's Kevin

1353
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 11: and uh ab question doctor Ela Trosh. Is he opposed

1354
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 11: to it because it's a conservative Uh.

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Speaker 14: We haven't even talked about the preseason honestly, other than

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 14: training camp and what we're doing throughout you know, practice

1357
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 14: and stuff. But as far as preseason games, I'm not.

1358
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Speaker 11: I'm not sure I.

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Speaker 9: Share with the fact that this isn't a common injury

1360
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 9: in football, especially has that been I guess difficult to

1361
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 9: wrap your head around that there's not really a comps

1362
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 9: that you can compare your timeline to you or the

1363
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 9: rehab to or talk to anybody really about that's gone

1364
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 9: through something similar.

1365
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, especially in the football space, it's definitely different. But

1366
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Speaker 14: like I said, it was a lot of baseball guys.

1367
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 14: A couple of pitchers that I got close to, A

1368
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 14: guy that played with the Dodgers, you know last year

1369
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 14: he pitched, He did very very similar. The guy that

1370
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 14: reached out to me the last week from Boston, Trevor

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 14: I think he's named Trevor Story. He did the very

1372
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 14: same thing to me what he did with his shoulder

1373
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 14: last week. So you know, there's different baseball guys that

1374
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 14: came through. And I think of volleyball girl, she had

1375
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 14: the similar injury labor them. Yeah, and a couple of

1376
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 14: bast for our guys that were out there too. So yeah,

1377
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 14: we all just like like I said, we all come

1378
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 14: in there, we put in the work, but we able

1379
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 14: to communicate because we're dealing with the same thing, so

1380
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 14: we help each other out.

1381
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 11: So I think that was the closest thing.

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01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 14: Come more.

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 16: On, behalf of our community. Wanna thank you for opening

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 16: up a business and you're employing young folks. I know

1385
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 16: you did the same thing in Houston when you had

1386
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 16: rest when you had the restaurant and you employed people.

1387
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Speaker 16: Is that something that is just innate within you to

1388
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 16: give other people an opportunity or is it something else?

1389
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Speaker 16: But again, thank you for opening up that business in

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Speaker 16: our community.

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Speaker 14: Yes, sir, and no, thank you. And yeah, this is

1392
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 14: something I've always done since I was in high school.

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 14: You know, people gave me opportunities. Coming from where I

1394
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 14: come from, I didn't have much singing parent mom, so

1395
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 14: you know that was something that I wanted to use

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 14: this opportunity to do the same thing is to be

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Speaker 14: able to give opportunities for people to have jobs. And

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Speaker 14: I know this community around here wont and looking for

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 14: opportunities like that. So if I can be able to,

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Speaker 14: you know, somehow give back and help it out, help

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 14: Cleveland out. This is definitely, you know, where I want

1402
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 14: to be and this is what I want to do.

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 14: So it was very important for me and my team,

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01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 14: and we want to continue to do that and build

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 14: around here, not just in restaurants and in that space,

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 14: but rec centers and you know, boys and girls clubs,

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01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 14: all all things like that is definitely on the list.

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 14: And you know, we're just making for the right time

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 14: and to be able to release that. But we've been

1410
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 14: a part in the community for that too.

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 8: As you use back into things and other guys that

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 8: are dealing.

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Speaker 9: With injuries that in the things.

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 8: How valuable is this first phase in terms of the

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 8: time in the classroom and the time that you're putting

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 8: into learning this playbook and just really getting into things.

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01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 11: With that, that's very important.

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 14: I think the mental side of the game is very important,

1419
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 14: especially with the new OC. You know, some certain things

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 14: that are gonna carry over, but it's gonna be a

1421
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 14: lot of new things. And you know, we got to

1422
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 14: know how he communicates his offense, he communicates the way

1423
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 14: that him and Kevin are communicating, so we all can

1424
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 14: be on the same page. It's a lot of different moving,

1425
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 14: new moving parts, especially throughout the position groups. You know,

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 14: with the offensive line, who's very familiar with uh you

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01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 14: know the past of what they've been on, you know,

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 14: coached on. And then you have the receivers, the running backs.

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 14: So as an offense has been great, but we've seen

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 14: it on the defensive side last year that you know,

1431
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 14: when we brought it in a new DC, how everything

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 14: kind of meshed together and if we can put the

1433
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 14: time in like they did last year, I think we

1434
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 14: can do the same thing and take a huge leap forwards.

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 12: Like there's sometimes guys that have a serious injury and

1436
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 12: there's a mental block right at least sometimes struggling back

1437
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 12: to player.

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 9: That they were.

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 12: I'm just curious, like how much of your recovery has

1440
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 12: been and will be just a mental thing for you

1441
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 12: And if that's been effective.

1442
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 11: Though it won't be, it won't be.

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 6: I ask this about the offense and how it's going

1444
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 6: to look now that you've had a couple of classroom sessions.

1445
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 6: Is it gonna be noticeably different for folks watching this

1446
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 6: or is it that the change is more like nuanced

1447
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 6: and subtle?

1448
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 14: Think about to wait and see, you know, we might

1449
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 14: have to wait and see.

1450
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 11: I can't give too much information on that one, right, Yeah,

1451
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 11: thank you, thank you.

1452
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Deshaun Watson at the podium,

1453
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: take a quick time out and then a lot to

1454
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: digest there.

1455
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Speaker 2: reserve your spot today. Here are the two quotes that

1464
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Speaker 2: jumped out to me from Deshaun Watson's availability. It doesn't

1465
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: matter who calls plays pretty emphatic. I'm not the most

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: noteworthy thing though, is that he is able to let

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: it rip. He's able to throw one hundred percent. So

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: that was when he said that. Then I'm like, okay,

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: that's kind of we're waiting on. It's irrelevant. The date

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: when he's all back. All that matters is September. That's

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: the one that matters.

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Speaker 3: So I don't care.

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't need to see him in the preseason. I

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: don't need to see him at mini camp. As long

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: as he's throwing with full velocity, and he said he was,

1476
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: then I'm good.

1477
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: I just want him to get the reps in this offense,

1478
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: especially if we're going to tweet things that are things

1479
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: that he's more comfortable with You want to see him

1480
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: be able to get that and get the timing with

1481
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy, get the timing with his pass catchers down.

1482
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, it sounds like we're in a much better

1483
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 3: place than than perhaps we could have been, and that

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: he'll be he'll be good to go. And then the

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01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 3: other thing, you know that this was it's an uncommon

1486
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 3: injury and certainly in football, but that he's had you know,

1487
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: other people that he's talked to, and that the doctors

1488
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: are very pleased with how he's recovering and progressing, and

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01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to do what he

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 3: did against Baltimore, which is the last time many of

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: us saw him play football for the Cleveland Browns go

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01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: fourteen to fourteen with.

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: It fractures nuts nuts. So look.

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 3: This season, in many ways, he can't say it's gonna

1495
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 3: go how Deshaun Watson goes. Because last year in the

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: games that.

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Speaker 2: He's the ceiling is going to go where DeShawn Watson goes.

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: We were still we were five and one with him

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 3: as a starter last year. Throw out Indy though, because

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: he really didn't play that game. So four and one

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 3: with him as a starter last year So that's a

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01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: good that's a good starting point, but we still were

1503
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: able to achieve without him. But if he can be

1504
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 3: if he can be elite again, if he can be

1505
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: a top then you have to be top three in

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 3: the league. But if he can be top eight in

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01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 3: the league, top ten in the league, this team can

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: win the super Bowl.

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: You cannot win the super Bowl if he's not.

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: I think that's probably right.

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: That's it. You're not you're not going to beat the

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01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: team that you're not going to beat Allen, You're not

1513
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: going to beat the other people in this conference, Burrow healthy,

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01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: you're not. This is a team that the super Bowl

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: is should be. Yeah, this roster is built to go

1516
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. If he is, if he can

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: get back to that level, then go chase it, Go

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: chase a Lombardi. If he can't get back to that level,

1519
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: or if he's hurt and banged up at not one

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01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: hundred percent, then the ceiling's different. So it changes the

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01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: way we view the season entirely based on him. And

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Speaker 2: that's a lot, but that's what we in a franchise

1523
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,440
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL.

1524
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 3: Is well, that's the job, and that's one of the

1525
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 3: things about this team and this roster as it is

1526
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: right now, Like going in the draft, there isn't a

1527
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: starting spot that's open to be drafted. There really isn't.

1528
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 3: I mean, you can maybe make the case that if

1529
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 3: you took a stud defensive tackle in the second round,

1530
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: that maybe a stud defensive tackle could start. Maybe you

1531
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: can find a starting SAM linebacker. Yeah, you know, although

1532
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 3: Tony Fields I think is likely to be that guy

1533
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: this year. But that's that's kind of it, folks. And

1534
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: so it's odd even this offseason isn't in You and

1535
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: I were talking about it off air, because this is

1536
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: a team that is going to be judged solely on

1537
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: what happens there are We're not trying to find a savior.

1538
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: We've got all the talent, everything's here. We're not you know,

1539
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: this isn't a franchise and turmoil. In fact, it's got

1540
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 3: the most stability it's had in my entire time decade

1541
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 3: plus with this football team.

1542
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pumpkinhead tweeted something out today. Eight and one at

1543
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 2: home eight and.

1544
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 3: One at home last year, it's the most they've ever

1545
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: won at home, Like this totally new era, Like it's

1546
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: been this way for really since the drafting a Baker.

1547
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, once he came in that second year, You've

1548
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: done it in a bunch of different ways, with a

1549
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: bunch of different people, in different looking teams, in different styles.

1550
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: There's been a winning operation the last five years largely.

1551
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. The record, it certainly gonna be close.

1552
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: Gotta be right around five hundred. All I know is winning.

1553
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stefanski's over five hundred for sure.

1554
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1555
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 3: But if you go back to Baker's draft, was this

1556
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 3: eighteen was his first year where we didn't quite make him.

1557
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: That nineteen was not so hot, right, twenty playoffs, yep,

1558
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 3: twenty one middling, not so hot, twenty two was mid solid. Yeah,

1559
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 3: but the injury. But Deshaun gets eleven.

1560
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: Games instead of what we thought Jacobe plays well, and

1561
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: then last year eleven and six.

1562
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: Stefansa's gotta have a winning record, I think for sure.

1563
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't think there's eight doubt.

1564
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I said that emphatically, and now I want to

1565
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: double check it. I think you're right. I think it's

1566
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: right near. He's gonna be from eighteen on. Would be

1567
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: a little bit diceier, but Stephansy's got a winning record. Yeah,

1568
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 2: because you got a ten winner. Yeah, okay, so seven

1569
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: eight and one and eighteen okay, so one under five hundred,

1570
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: six and nine or six and ten and nineteen okay,

1571
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: so that's five.

1572
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: Under eleven and five. So that's six over eight and nine.

1573
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 3: So step fancy's five over five hundred right now, seven

1574
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 3: and ten, two over eleven and six seven over five.

1575
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: First of fans, again, the first two years you said.

1576
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: Were a net five under five under, so two over

1577
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: two over. Since twenty eighteen, all I know is winning,

1578
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: that's right. If you just go back up one season, Nope,

1579
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that.

1580
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: I do.

1581
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: That's for you to sort out. You and Gibbe can sort,

1582
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: can sort sixteen and seventeen out. I'm eighteen on, No,

1583
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: thank you. That's all I know is eighteen on. But

1584
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 2: it goes to our something you and I were talking

1585
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: about off air. When you don't have first round picks,

1586
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: when you have just seconds, sometimes don't have a second

1587
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: when you're waiting in the draft or two drafts, two drafts, right,

1588
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: so no first, no first, no second. Right, You're you're

1589
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 2: busy in free agency, but it's that's a long time ago, right.

1590
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: You have stability and coaching stability, in front office. You've

1591
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that's now going this is our this

1592
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: is our third off season with Deshaun we acquired him. Yeah,

1593
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: third off season with DeShawn and actually around him. Because

1594
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: we've had uncertainty in the off seasons, we haven't been

1595
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: able to like build on things, you know, back So

1596
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: it's almost this is this off season. It's deja vu

1597
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: all over again in a way, right, because we're all

1598
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: just be healthy and look good and let's go because

1599
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: everything else is in place. Yep So, and it's been

1600
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: that way since twenty twenty.

1601
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: Do you do you think there's such a fascination with

1602
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: Why do you think there's such a fascination with who

1603
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: calls plays? And Number one, I'm asked two questions, so

1604
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 3: let's start with that, then to say hold on, Actually

1605
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: the second part matters too. This guy's been the coach

1606
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: of the Year twice in the NFL in four seasons

1607
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 3: as the play caller.

1608
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's necessarily that people think that

1609
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: he should give up play calling. That would seem to

1610
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: be silly if that's the angle that they're trying to

1611
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: a lot of.

1612
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: People seem to think that you don't hear people being like,

1613
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: why are we even talking about play calling? Of course,

1614
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: Kevin's fancy to call the plays.

1615
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: I just think it's a matter of I think there's

1616
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: some old heads that are like, look, offensive coordinator should

1617
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: call plays. Head coaches need to worry about everything else.

1618
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 2: Like there's that's kind of an old.

1619
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: West game man team in the league.

1620
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: Correct, And the if you think about all of the

1621
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 2: teams that are good offensively, the best offensive teams Miami,

1622
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: San Francisco, US Rams, the head coach calls the ballplays. Yes,

1623
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: so that's the that's the model.

1624
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 3: Even Green Bay. I mean there's even Siriani, right, yeah, yeah,

1625
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 3: Andy Reid.

1626
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andy Reid. Yeah. No, the best teams they do it.

1627
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: So like the notion that you couldn't or shouldn't, I

1628
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: don't understand it. Cincinnati calls plays. They're just going through

1629
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: the list. In the East, it would be Miami cod

1630
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: head coach and play caller. In the North it would

1631
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: be US and Cincinnati's. I've head coaches in the other

1632
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 2: three teams in the East, Right, we should make that

1633
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: that delineation. Offensive minded coaches who don't call plays, who

1634
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: are they? Who's left they all do so, all right,

1635
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: So in you got Miami calls plays in the North,

1636
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: it would it would be at both US and the

1637
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 2: Bengals call plays.

1638
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: Monkin'. Well, Harbaugh is getting not an offensive coach.

1639
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: Not an offensive coach, neither's Tomlins. In the South, defense.

1640
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 3: Coach Jaggs was Doug Peterson, and he called play cold plays.

1641
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: Ye Colts Shane Stikeen called play plays.

1642
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 2: Callahan, We'll call plays.

1643
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 3: I'm Shandy Reid, Yes, Antonio Pierce's defense, Sean Payton, Peyton, Yes.

1644
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: Harbaugh probably won't, will not, So I think he's probably

1645
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think.

1646
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1647
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: He didn't at Michigan then, probably not. Did he for

1648
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers the first time?

1649
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: I feel like yeah, but maybe it was Greg Roman.

1650
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 2: With college is more more nebulous because the they're signaling

1651
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 2: in the plays, so it's not direct conversation.

1652
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 12: All right.

1653
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: So Cowboys have McCarthy, mcarthy yep, Sirianni yep, day Bowl yep.

1654
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Washington is uh old boy defensive coordinator with the Cowboys

1655
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: last year. Just tired him. Dan Quin dan Quinn no defense,

1656
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: dan Quinn is defense. That's what I said.

1657
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: No, Campbell O'Connell. Yes, special teams with Campbell's a tight end.

1658
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: It wasn't.

1659
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it calls the place. But Minnesota, Yes, Tampa no

1660
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 3: defensive coach, Saints defensive coach Carolina Falcons defensive coach Carolina

1661
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: probably probably New Yeah, Kyle McVeigh Seattle defensive coach Arizona

1662
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: is a defensive coach.

1663
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: Yes, So all of them do.

1664
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all do for the most part.

1665
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the league you listen to clear that

1666
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: runs on a fifty yes.

1667
01:20:52,520 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: In Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley

1668
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: Beck Now live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1669
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: Hi, Welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily Time. Now for

1670
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: a little segment we like to call the Griff Fact

1671
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 2: of the Day.

1672
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: Fact of the Day, Fact of the day, Fact of

1673
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 3: the day. It's the griff Fact to the day.

1674
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 2: Hello fellas, hey buddy.

1675
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 15: So for today's griff fun Factor of the day, we're

1676
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 15: gonna do a little bit of a history lesson something

1677
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 15: that my dad taught me a while ago. Stop a griff, yes, sir. So,

1678
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 15: contrary to belief, many of our founding fathers were not

1679
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 15: as old as you might believe. In fact, on July fourth,

1680
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 15: seventeen seventy six, we had people at James Monroe who

1681
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 15: was twenty five, Alexander Alexander Hamilton who was twenty one,

1682
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 15: John Marshall was twenty and then we also had jamesmin

1683
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 15: Brow who was eighteen years old. Whenever they signed the

1684
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 15: Declaration of independence.

1685
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 3: At Jefferson was the old head thirty three. That's incredible.

1686
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: So the most amazing, like you think about like Aaron

1687
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: Burr and Alexander Hamilton. Obviously that didn't end well.

1688
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: See the place Hamilton great music is great. The idea

1689
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: that like they're twenty and twenty one when this is

1690
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: going down.

1691
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, who were the old heads?

1692
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 11: Where were they?

1693
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:23,839
Speaker 3: Jefferson?

1694
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 15: You had George Washington I believe he was forty four.

1695
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: So those are the well in those days though you

1696
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: only you didn't live much.

1697
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: How old was John Hancock the guy?

1698
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 15: Oh he was up there.

1699
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 3: I made a whole career off of his signature.

1700
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful sig.

1701
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: It's incredible. Yeah, when you're right with a you're right

1702
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: with a real quill. Something special about that artistry. Yeah, yeah, all.

1703
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,879
Speaker 2: Right, let's see. So he's he's born in thirty seventeen

1704
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: thirty seven.

1705
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's thirty nine.

1706
01:22:55,280 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, died at fifty six. That's that's kind of

1707
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: where it was at that point.

1708
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Come a long way, yeah, come a long way.

1709
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 2: Just young kids fighting. Man's out there battling for a dream.

1710
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: What is the best? The best? I think the best

1711
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: books about this time are the McCullough books, like seventeen

1712
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: seventy six and John Adams. Is there a Is there

1713
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 2: a series or movie that is great on this era.

1714
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: Of the actual Revolutionary War?

1715
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? There were HBO bought the rights to seventeen seventy

1716
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: six or John. No, they did John Adams. That's pretty good. Yeah,

1717
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: the HBO series John Adams. Yeah, that's good. Jim otis

1718
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: in that, Yeah, Jim. I haven't seen that in forever,

1719
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: but that that's very good.

1720
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1721
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: Mel Gibson made a movie, but I don't The Patriot

1722
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: is that good? Yeah, I'm not sure I've even seen that.

1723
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: What I don't think I've seen dude, I don't know.

1724
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: If I could buy him stuff, you I can buy

1725
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: him three war movie, top three war movie?

1726
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: Dude?

1727
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: Who are the other two?

1728
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 3: Saving Private Ryan?

1729
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: All right, best best sea view of the storming of

1730
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: the beaches of Normandy. Band of Brothers did the air view?

1731
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: Yep?

1732
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: How are you with that? With miss k by the way,

1733
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: with what did you guys watch? Band of Brothers and

1734
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: you watched You haven't gotten into that. I thought you

1735
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 2: were doing that. Were you doing that at the Pacific?

1736
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Speaker 2: Which one did you do?

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Speaker 3: We've done Masters of the Air?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, that's what. Which is a catalyst?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Patriot is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like there really haven't been a ton of movies

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Speaker 2: during that period made of that period. No, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of World War Two, there's a lot of Vietnam.

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: It used to be a lot of Civil War. Like

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01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: when you and I were kids, that was pretty common.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the World War One is largely forgotten, and

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Speaker 2: the Revolutionary War is largely forgotten.

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Speaker 3: The Patriot is unbelievable. Yeah, I can't believe you haven't

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Speaker 3: seen that.

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01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I haven't. I don't think I have.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like, yeah, Gibson Heater, Heath Ledgers

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01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: in that right, Yep, it is. It's dude, it is

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01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: in tense. John Adams was in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Yeah, there was a there

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01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: was a AMC series called Turn, which was about spies

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: during the Revolutionary War. That was on, but I never

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01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: got any buzz, so I didn't know if it was

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: anything that that worked or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, Patriot is good.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we've got this is an interesting question

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Speaker 2: that we have in regard to AUGUSTA National and the Masters.

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Speaker 2: We'll attack it coming up next, Cleveland round sally.

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Speaker 1: A fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All right, so this was on on the X yesterday. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Could you win the Masters if you got to start

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Speaker 2: each hole on the green?

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Speaker 4: So? Yes?

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Speaker 3: All right, so yes I would.

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Speaker 2: What was the What did Scheffler end up at? Ten

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01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: under total?

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Speaker 3: Dieh? Ten or eleven?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was wat okay, so three under a day.

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01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 2: It's what it takes. Yep. Okay, So for sure you could.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that you could. I

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01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: mean I could a high handicapper or could? No, I

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01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: don't think so, no, I don't think so. Okay, Then

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Speaker 2: the other questions I had with this are I think a.

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Speaker 3: Like Jimmy Bangbang's a thirteen, but he's a pretty solid putter.

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Speaker 3: I think that he I think he could he could

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Speaker 3: have a chance. I think that's like the cutoff though,

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01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 3: you've got to be like.

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Speaker 2: That's the number you think?

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01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think probably you gotta probably got to be

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01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 3: an eleven or under to I think you can dig

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 3: I think you can separate because I don't know that

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01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 3: the handicap.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more of how good of a putter

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01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: are you? Because people that ties into it does but

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01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: like you're not having to hit off a tee, you're

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: not having to hit a second shot like you got

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: a ball sitting on a green, right, So it depends

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: is where they put you. So I would think in

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: order for the sake of this conversation, you would have

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01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: to be furthest away from the hole that you can

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01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: be on the green or do the is it at

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: their discretion because there's probably some places there where you

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: put it on a green and it's the impossible place.

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Speaker 3: It is the furthest spot furthest spot.

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01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: That might be easier than if they got to pick

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: the hardest spot the furthest isn't necessarily the hardest, No,

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01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: I listen, So, yeah, I think it'd be very tough.

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01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: You can four put apart five for a bird. If

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01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 3: you can three putt apart five, that's an eagle. Some

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01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: of those holes. Further point is over one hundred and

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01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 3: fifty feet?

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like what is it? Thirteen?

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Speaker 3: All you have to do is can you get your

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01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: first putt within twenty feet and you're in a three

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01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 3: putt And that's never gonna be worse than a part

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be a BIRDI er an eagle on.

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Speaker 2: So the key to this I think would come not

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01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: necessarily for you, but if you want to use Jimmy

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01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: bangbang is the example of the kind of the.

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Speaker 3: Threshold of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the key would be does he get to have

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Speaker 2: a practice round putting or is he just going out

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01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: there blind? The second part of it would be does

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 2: he get a caddy or is he is he on

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Speaker 2: his own? And if I get a caddy, like, even

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01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: if you don't, the caddy'd be more valuable than.

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Speaker 3: Doing a practice, right, said, you have a caddy?

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So if I get a caddy and he's saying

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01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: hit it here Yeah, And even if I don't have

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 2: the tempo exactly right, if I hit that line, you

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01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: have a chance. You got a chance. It's gonna be inno,

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Speaker 2: a centity be.

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Speaker 3: Tempo's gonna be the most important. Tempo's gonna be all

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Speaker 3: of it. And you know, I think that the other

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Speaker 3: part when you said about the handicappers, I think it

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Speaker 3: does matter because there's gonna be a lot of like

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Speaker 3: three foot knee knockers that if you're not used to

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01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 3: being successful in pressure situations, could unravel and six putts.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially if you have a full gallery, like if

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Speaker 2: you were like, I think.

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Speaker 3: This should be televised. I think this would be a

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Speaker 3: fair I think GUSA should let somebody come in.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're never going to do it. You could probably

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Speaker 2: do it it the four.

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Speaker 3: Rounds and you put the pins exactly where they were

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01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 3: around one, two, three or four, and you could have

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Speaker 3: like one you know, only it can only be one

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Speaker 3: person at a time. You can't be seeing anybody else's

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01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 3: puts or anything like that. But one person. I would

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Speaker 3: say with a scratch. If they did it with like,

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Speaker 3: we'll call it a scratch eight and a sixteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think the scratch would win for sure. I think

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Speaker 3: the eight has a chance and I don't think the

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01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 3: sixteen would have a chance. Yeah, even starting on the greens,

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01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 3: which is wild because the thing too, when they hit

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Speaker 3: the ball onto the greens, these pros, they're trying to

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 3: hit it to certain spots on the well.

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Speaker 2: They never the first two are almost never. It's so

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01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: it's very rare that the third one isn't on for them. Yes,

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01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: even in Augusta. Even in the Masters, well.

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Speaker 3: You have putts that you could put the ball fifty

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01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 3: yards off the green. I would imagine some of these holes.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: You probably put the ball into the water if you

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Speaker 3: hit a bad putt.

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Speaker 2: There's no question. Yeah, yeah you could.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I feel really confident about it.

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01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: But I would also be nervous as heck. Yeah, you

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01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: should get a practice round. You've got to be able

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01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: to have practice round.

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01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a practice round. You need a caddy, definitely,

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01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: a caddy to help you who's familiar with it. Yeah,

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01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 2: you would need that for sure. Yeah, but you think

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01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: you could do it?

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01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 13: No, No, yeah, I'm not great at reading greens.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not.

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01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: No, But like I need to. It's one thing that I,

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01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 3: for some reason cannot master. For the life of me.

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01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how to read it right.

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Speaker 2: That's It's a fascinating question. I would be fun.

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01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: It would be a great television event. You have pros commentating, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: bring like Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Like Charles bark Have him be in it because he's

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Speaker 2: like between an eighty or sixteen. Now, all right, next levels,

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Speaker 2: Next sexual list in Cleveland runs daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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