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Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast, but this one is good.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Throwing up, so I'm saying it's a cash toto.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: Most gamblers when they go to gamble, they go to winning.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible. Big bank, small bank.

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Speaker 1: I like to make.

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Speaker 5: Money, all right.

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Speaker 1: This is the ultimate kaboy you want to pass and

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Speaker 1: we are underway.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network NFL Betting podcast. I am

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Speaker 4: your host, Chris raybaon here with my dude, the Prime

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Speaker 4: Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stucky, as well as our homie

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Speaker 4: Sean Kerner, coming over from the Fantasy Flex to join

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Speaker 4: us as well.

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Speaker 3: Stuck. What's going on, man?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really feeling the grind right now. We're fit.

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Speaker 1: We're doing Week zero college football podcast later today, a

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Speaker 1: couple NFL podcasts. I mean football, real football, not preseason football.

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Speaker 1: I know you fantasy guys love preseason, but real football

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Speaker 1: for me is like right around the corner. I can

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Speaker 1: taste it. So it's just excitement in the air. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to get the football season started.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Sean, we have some player movement as

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Speaker 4: we speak, going on. I'm gonna jump off this pod

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Speaker 4: right after and update Sony Michelle to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's that time of year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been loving preseason.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I've been betting on these player props, on price picks.

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Speaker 2: But you know, just betting on preseason has been a moneymaker.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm like ten and one now just by

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Speaker 2: doing all the just by doing like all the projections,

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Speaker 2: knowing the rotations, you know, it's been so easy to

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Speaker 2: beten gain kind of knowing which team is going to start,

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Speaker 2: you know, evaluating quarterbacks or running backs. So I don't

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Speaker 2: want this pre season end, but I'm gonna stuck you.

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Speaker 2: The grind has begun, and yeah, I am looking forward

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Speaker 2: for the season start and it's right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And today.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about the NFC East and the

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Speaker 4: NFC North. Wind Totals will preview each team and we're

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Speaker 4: going to jump right in here with the Dallas Cowboys. Stuck,

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Speaker 4: I'll start with you, what is your outlook for the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys this season? With Dak Prescott. We think he's returning

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Speaker 4: from from injury. He's had a little shoulder issue, but

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the Cowboys this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the biggest question is going to be that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know that recent report is Dak Prescott fully healthy? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to be fully healthy maybe all year.

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Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean? So trying to decipher exactly

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Speaker 1: what that means, I think is the toughest part about

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Speaker 1: projecting Dallas Because if he is healthy, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you presume that Dallas's offensive line will be much healthier

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Speaker 1: than it was last year, then this is clearly the

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Speaker 1: most talented and I think best team in the division.

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Speaker 1: There are certainly question marks on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: But they're going to be playing a lot of like

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Speaker 1: single high safety, heavy nickel. He's a Cover three guy.

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Speaker 1: He says he's more multiple now, but who doesn't. But

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Speaker 1: I have questions about the run defense. You know, I

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Speaker 1: like the addition to Michael Parsons are going to use

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Speaker 1: But the offense is going to score with anyone. If

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Speaker 1: DAK is healthy, I project them, you know, at the

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Speaker 1: nine point three wins the win which is great about

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Speaker 1: what their win total is, you know when you include juice.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how to account for the health

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Speaker 1: Early on. You know, they do have a tricky start

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Speaker 1: I mean, if these teams are close, a key injury

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Speaker 4: That is just absolutely absurd, But I'm not surprised at

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Speaker 4: all given what we've seen out of these NFC East teams. Sean,

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Speaker 4: what about you, what do you think of the Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: Is this a wait and see kind of thing for

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Speaker 2: I think it is, but you know, I am bullish

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Speaker 2: on them. They had the fifth worst injury luck last year. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: no injury was more important than Dak Prescott. The offensive

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Speaker 2: but I do expect this offense to be elite. You know,

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Speaker 2: of had to settle for Micah Parsons, who could be special.

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Speaker 2: But the you know, the total seems a bit juiced

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Speaker 2: they're typically going to take more action on the over.

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Speaker 1: But this is still sort of a wait and see

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Speaker 4: And the obligatory What is the Cowboys? What you're rating

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Speaker 1: Oh, now you want to know the strengths.

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Speaker 3: Coming at you early? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: With it coming early, I'm about fourteen. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 2: league average sixteen. So and that's factoring in that. You know,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I have Cowboys middle of the pack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you look at their schedule after

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Speaker 4: that Tampa Bay game, it gets dramatically easier into the bye.

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Speaker 4: You got at the Chargers, home for Philly, home for Carolina,

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Speaker 4: home for the Giants at New England than a bye.

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Speaker 4: Then you go to Minnesota, Denver before playing Atlanta and

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Speaker 4: it comes down to DAK. I don't think the defense

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys, I am bullish on them, but there's just

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Speaker 4: of feel like it's the exact same situation. So this

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Speaker 4: is not my favorite team to bet in the division.

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Speaker 4: There's two teams that I like, Bettan in this division,

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Speaker 4: and one of them is the Giants, and their win

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Speaker 4: total is seven and a half. I like the under Sean,

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Speaker 4: where are you on this Giants team this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably with you on the under there. You know,

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Speaker 2: this defense should be above average this year. I mean

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Speaker 1: You know, the defensive line. Dory Jackson a real person, though,

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Speaker 1: are we convinced to them?

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Speaker 3: He might, he might exist, he might actually exist. Now

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Speaker 3: he's in the Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Years straight and say, I never played.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, he's never get never.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess he did suffer an ankle spring

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Speaker 2: But on paper, this defense looks great. Even the offense

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Speaker 2: get Saquon Barkley back, Kenny Galladay gives him a true

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Speaker 2: number one wide out. Rookie Kadarius Tony should be dangerous

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Speaker 2: many red flags for the Giants. So yeah, I'm with you,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think any conversation about the Giants

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Speaker 4: have the league's worst offensive line and really there's nothing

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Speaker 4: really try right right, No, I mean like guys were tired.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've drafted poor we It's just been a

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Speaker 4: And there's been no positive reports out of camp. There's

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Speaker 4: been you know, PFS still has them ranked dead last.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just really worried about this O line.

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Speaker 4: Where are you on this New York Giants football team?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were just hoping and praying that

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Speaker 1: was awful last year, it should, you know, be awful

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Speaker 1: again this year. Maybe by the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: some of these young pieces will fall into place, but

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Speaker 1: line of weapons on the offense, so if they can block,

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Speaker 1: an upper echelon corner. The defense isn't going to get

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Speaker 4: The Washington football team, because this is the other team

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Speaker 1: Let me just show you for in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, any Ryan Fitzpatrick led team is going

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Speaker 3: Here we go, here we go. Now, they do have

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Speaker 1: Are you are you not? Are you at number one?

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Speaker 4: Green Bay at Lambeau, Week eight, Denver and Mile High

433
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Speaker 4: by Tampa Bay like that. That is, if they can

434
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Speaker 4: get through that and win even like a game, they

435
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Speaker 4: might be Again, that's what.

436
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Speaker 2: It might be better to have. Of all the guy

437
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Speaker 2: like Ryan Fitzpatrick as opposed to a high floor, low

438
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Speaker 2: ceiling guy like Alex Smith. I think if you're able

439
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Speaker 2: to get a good game out of Fitzpatrick, you can

440
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Speaker 2: beat anybody.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think it does.

442
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Speaker 2: I like the blend of all quarterback like Fitzie and

443
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Speaker 2: a high four defender.

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Speaker 5: For those games Smith, were you watching, he was low

445
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Speaker 5: floor low. Well, yeah, he has a low ceiling. I

446
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Speaker 5: understand that, but not as bad as Haskins. I would

447
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Speaker 5: say Smith was an upgrade over Haskins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because now looks good on Fittsburgh.

449
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is another NFCS thing though, Like they go,

450
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Speaker 1: so they go to Vegas week thirteen, and here's their

451
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Speaker 1: final what fourteen fifty sixties at their final five games

452
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Speaker 1: are home against the Cowboys, at the Eagles, at the Cowboys,

453
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Speaker 1: home against the Eagles, at the Giants. So they played

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Speaker 1: five of their six division games in the final five weeks.

455
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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yep. So, like if they don't have a big lead

458
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Speaker 1: and someone's hurt. That's why the NFCAS is gonna be

459
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Speaker 1: fascinating divisionally because they all play each other in the

460
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Speaker 1: final five six weeks. You're three games back, you can

461
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Speaker 1: still win the division. You get division wins and make

462
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Speaker 1: up ground quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Washington is probably gonna need it after that middle

464
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Speaker 4: of the schedule. I think they can start strong and

465
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Speaker 4: they can end strong. It's really that middle that that

466
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Speaker 4: worries me. Let's move on to the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Though.

468
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Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles subject to a lot of trade rumors.

469
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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts set to be the quarterback. He's dealing with

470
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Speaker 4: an illness in the preseason, but he looks ready to go.

471
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Speaker 4: They draft the Devonte Smith. Ques Watkins is flashing in camp.

472
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Speaker 4: The O line should be better with my Wata coming on.

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Speaker 4: The defense I think will be a little better. The

474
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Speaker 4: injury luck will be better, the coaching will be we

475
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Speaker 4: think better, because it got really bad. Even though Doug

476
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Speaker 4: Pearson's had some success in the past, it got bad

477
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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 3: So, Sean, what do you make of this Eagles team?

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Speaker 4: Because there's a lot of moving parts and there's a

480
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Speaker 4: lot of new pieces, but at the same time, they're

481
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Speaker 4: still the roster is still kind of similar to the

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Speaker 4: one that we've seen the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this team certainly has a wide range of outcomes,

484
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Speaker 2: and it really comes down to Jalen Hurts, right, you know,

485
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Speaker 2: will he improve as a passing year two. Even if

486
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Speaker 2: he doesn't, he's so dangerous with his legs.

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Speaker 1: You know.

488
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Speaker 2: It allows him to extend plays and maybe overcome his

489
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Speaker 2: accuracy issues. If they continue this year, he probably won't

490
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Speaker 2: have a Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen type breakout season,

491
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Speaker 2: but I think he could surprise people. Like you mentioned

492
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Speaker 2: they added DeVonta Smith, Jalen Rager could break out near two.

493
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Speaker 2: It looks like they're going to keep Zach Rtz, so

494
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, they have a pretty good tight end duo there.

495
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: You know, the defensive line is still the strength of

496
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Speaker 2: this defense. They really do need Darius Slay to stay healthy.

497
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: You don't want to start testing their depth at cornerback.

498
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think with improved injury luck this year.

499
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: I think they were third in terms of bad injury

500
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Speaker 2: luck last year. And you know, if they can stay

501
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Speaker 2: healthy and Jalen Hurts makes a big year two leap,

502
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: they could easily win this division and fly over the total.

503
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Speaker 2: But there are plenty scenarios where this all falls apart

504
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Speaker 2: and we end up seeing Joe Flacca replacing a healthy

505
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, you know, and they finished the basement in

506
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Speaker 2: this division. So this is a team I don't like

507
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Speaker 2: betting on I don't like betting on a team I

508
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: don't really have a good read on. So I'm in

509
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: line with this total at seven and a half, and

510
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: this is a password. What do you think I'll see?

511
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Speaker 1: If I could guarantee the Flacco is going to start,

512
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Speaker 1: I would take I'll take out some Eagles Super Bowl

513
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: futures just for a pay homage to Joe Flacco getting

514
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: me a forty to one Ravens back in twenty twelve.

515
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: But yes, obviously if that happened, that would be disastrous

516
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Speaker 1: with the Eagles. But I completely agree, don't This is

517
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Speaker 1: a completely why you know, the outcomes are so wide

518
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Speaker 1: with the team I was. You know, I'm at about

519
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: seven and a half, so I don't see any value

520
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Speaker 1: in the wind win total. I did take a shot

521
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Speaker 1: on them to win the division at plus five point fifty. Yeah,

522
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: thats like I said. It hasn't you know? They There

523
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: hasn't been a repeat winner since it was the four

524
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Speaker 1: in the NFCS. They all play each other at the

525
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Speaker 1: end of the season if everything goes right, you know,

526
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: if hurts either and I'm not buying into Hurts yet,

527
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: I still stinking it needs another year, but he has

528
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: the weapons. The offensive line should be better and healthier

529
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm a huge, huge Jonathan Gaddon fan.

530
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Speaker 1: He's a Zimmer guy. Zimmer's four to three cover too,

531
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Speaker 1: A Gannon's gonna be more Cover three match. It's all

532
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Speaker 1: the stuff you saw in the rams. Everyone loved Brandon Staley.

533
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Speaker 1: Gannon and Staley worked like childhood friends. From what I know,

534
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Gannon basically taught Staley a lot of the concepts that

535
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Speaker 1: he used got him his first job to first main

536
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Speaker 1: job that led to Staley breaking through in the NFL.

537
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Speaker 1: So I'm a huge I think that this defense is

538
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Speaker 1: going to be just from a scheme perspective, it's going

539
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: to be massively you know, and you can move Maddix

540
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: to slot now with Nelson on the outside, Sleigh is

541
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of over the hill, but I think that they can.

542
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna be able to use their pieces

543
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: in the best way possible with the defensive line being

544
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Speaker 1: the strength of that unit. So I think the defense,

545
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, could take a big step up just because

546
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: of the scheme change. And I'm a big Ganon fan.

547
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: You also have you know this, you know, and like

548
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: I said before. Last four games are all in the

549
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: division after a bye week, three or four at home.

550
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Speaker 1: So if they're in the mix, three or four at home,

551
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: you get a bye week and then last four games

552
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Speaker 1: in the division. Who knows. That's why I think it's either,

553
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: you know, the only way you play this team is

554
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: to try and you know, maybe bet an under alt

555
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: win total, or you know, bet them to win the division.

556
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I think you just try and play them both extremely.

557
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: The funny thing is if you look at the schedule.

558
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: I was bet on the wind the division. I look

559
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: at the schedule, it's not unrealistic. They start oh and

560
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Speaker 1: set like they go at Atlanta, then you're home against

561
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Speaker 1: Sant Franz. You're at Dallas, you're home against the Chiefs.

562
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Speaker 1: You're at Carolina, you're home against the Bucks. I mean,

563
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: all these games at home are brutal. You have the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, the forty nine ers at home. Then you're

565
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: at Atlanta, at Dallas, at Carolina. Then you're going out

566
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I mean you're oh and seven, good night,

567
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: turn off the lights, and then you hope you go

568
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: to you go to Detroit. You have two zero to

569
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: seven teams playing, so you know it's it could go

570
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: all wrong for the beginning, but I think there is

571
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: high upside and six and sixteen of the past eighteen

572
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: seasons we've got a team go from worst to first.

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00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: I think this is you know, the NFC East with

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Speaker 1: how wide opened it, and then we already covered the

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: AFC South with that way. I think those are the

576
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: two the divisions you could possibly target with the lung shot,

577
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: and I did with the Eagles to win the division,

578
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: but I'm right on right on par with their wind total.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they have a chance to win that

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: opening game in Atlanta. I just think that in Atlanta

581
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 4: defense and the depth for the Falcons is is weak

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00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: enough that it could be a big jawin Hurts game

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00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: and they could they could win a shoot out there.

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Speaker 4: So I think it would be like an Egle season,

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: we see like a bunch of different teams, like I

586
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: think we'll see like the early season, like Jalen Hurts

587
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: still trying to get acclimated to the scheme and a

588
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: coaching staff. I think there'll be a point where the

589
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: offense really goes crazy. I think there'll be a point

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00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 4: where the defense plays really well, but there's just so

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Speaker 4: many moving parts that I agree. I don't think there's

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Speaker 4: really a bet here other than an extreme bet with

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Speaker 4: the egos, but I do like them. I do like

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Speaker 4: their lines O line and D line, so I'm not

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Speaker 4: opposed to taking some upside bets there, you know, with them,

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Speaker 4: just based on that, I think they do have some

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Speaker 4: good things going for them.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to the NFC North and we'll start

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Speaker 4: with the Green Bay Packers. The pack at bet MGM

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Speaker 4: have a win total of ten and a half. The

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Speaker 4: you feeling about the Packers with Aaron Rodgers back for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very bullish on the Packers this year. You know,

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Speaker 2: on our fantasy podcast, I tend to mention that Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers should see some regression this year, coming off of

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Speaker 2: this offense should still be elite. They have better depth

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Speaker 2: a wide receivers this year. You know, they added Randall Cobb,

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Speaker 2: drafted Amari Rodgers, Kevin Functious returns after opting out last year.

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Speaker 2: He's looked surprisingly good. So I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: be solid there. I think Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon

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Speaker 2: is going to be a you know, a lightning and

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Speaker 2: thunder combo running back. So I love the offense. You know,

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: the offensive line could take a step back. You know,

648
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: they lock center Corey Linsley to the Chargers. They need

649
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: second round pick Josh Myers a step in right away.

650
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Even if he plays well, it's going to be a downgrade.

651
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: But overall, I do like the o line still and

652
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: the defense got better towards the end of last season.

653
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: You know, they ranked fourteenth and waited dv away. So

654
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: if this defense could just play average, the offense should

655
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: carry this team. So you know, if upside, if players

656
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: like Rashaun Gary continue to improve, if we see Zadarias

657
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Smith return his twenty nineteen form, this defense could be

658
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: really good.

659
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: So I like the over ten and a half at

660
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: plus one ten.

661
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: And if you think of this team from just a

662
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: roster building perspective, they're elite at the four key positions.

663
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: You know they if Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, Davante Adams

664
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: at wide receiver, David Bactieri at left tackle, and jer

665
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: R Alexander at cornerback. You know, those are the four

666
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: critical positions and they're elite at all four of them.

667
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: So I love this team overall. I just love the

668
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: over ten and a half.

669
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: Look, how are you feeling about this Green Bay Packer.

670
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Team with with Rogers?

671
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would tend to agree with Sean. I'm at

672
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: ten ten eight to nine projected, So I think the

673
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: look here is either over or nothing. I mean I

674
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: think that their their defense could be a lot better

675
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: than last year. I mean, is the defense that you

676
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: know they use a ton of dime. They're gonna use

677
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: a lot of six defensiveacks. You're always gonna be able

678
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: to run on them. The kind of it's a run

679
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: funnel defense. But look like you said, Sadarius Smith, if

680
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: he returns the formua Preston Smith is apparently in shape.

681
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: He has an incentive filled contract, So if they can

682
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: get him to come off the edge and kind of

683
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: return to form, I love Rashaun Gary. You have a

684
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: healthy now Kenny Clark in the middle. So there's a

685
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: lot of pieces that are coming together. May the weakest

686
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: point on this defense, you know, great safeties. Arguably the

687
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: best cover corner in the NFL is the second corner spot.

688
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: So if Kevin King apparently he's still you know, in

689
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: that spot, but they drafted Eric Stokes, who's not too

690
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: far behind Kevin King. Obviously he had that you know,

691
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: everyone remembers what he did in the NFC Championship game.

692
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: But if he can either step up or Stokes can,

693
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to trust a rookie at corner,

694
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: But if they could figure out that second corner spot,

695
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, there's really no weakness is

696
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: on this defense other than yet you're gonna be able

697
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: to run on them, but they kind of encourage if

698
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: they play with you know, six defensive backs most of

699
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: the time that you know, Barnes and Campbell, it's not

700
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: the strongest linebacking group on the inside. Weak division you know,

701
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: develops offensive lineman better than any team in the NFL.

702
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing to just get someone develop him.

703
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Then he's ready to go six weeks in plug him in.

704
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't miss a they don't miss a beat.

705
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean Backdori will be big if he's not, you know,

706
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: fully healthy. So if he's not fully healthy week one,

707
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: like he's going to be back. You know, keep that

708
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: in mind if you're betting the Packers in the first

709
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But yeah, I'm at ten point eight

710
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: and yeah they I think it's over or nothing. You know,

711
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers, they drafted him. I think he can actually

712
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: help in the return game two and that's been an

713
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: area of weakness for them as well. So I think

714
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: they drafted well some pieces on defense that I think

715
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: can step up either due to health incentives, and defense

716
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: will be even better than Rogers is gonna have that

717
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: offense clicking, so yeah, I agree, it's over or nothing.

718
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a strong over as well.

719
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: You look at the Packers under Matt with Floor, the

720
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: thirteen and three in both seasons with him. Aaron Rodgers

721
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: in the last twelve years has won double digit games

722
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: for the Packers nine times. The other times he's essentially

723
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 4: missed parts of the season. So he's been a really

724
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: bankable quarterback. I think he's.

725
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: A kind of guy who.

726
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: Given the way he played last year, I think that

727
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: was it was really a wake up call that year

728
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: before when San Francisco just stomped him in the mouth twice.

729
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: I think he's playing a little bit better now under pressure.

730
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 4: I think you'll be able to alleviate, you know, anything

731
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: that kind of go or mitigate any issues with the

732
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 4: offensive line, which I think will take a step back.

733
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: But this team has lost one.

734
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: Division game in the last two years under the Floor,

735
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: they could be better on defense, as you said, Stuck.

736
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 4: So yeah, I like this Packers team, and I don't

737
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: think people realize, you know, we know the Lions are bad.

738
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: I think the Bears are actually going to be pretty

739
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: bad too, So the Vikings they'll be better. That's the

740
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: one team that in the division that's beat the Packers

741
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: over the last two years.

742
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: But I still think you're getting four.

743
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: You're probably getting four wins from the Bears and Lions

744
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: in that division to get a littlehead start to that

745
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: win total of ten and a half.

746
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: So love the over there. Let's move on before we

747
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: get to the Bears.

748
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: Let's go to the Vikings, because the Vikings, I think

749
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: it's the two team race here and the Vikings, the

750
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: win total is nine and a half at bet MGM

751
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 4: the under his juice to minus one forty five. Sean,

752
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: what do you think of that with the with the

753
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: juice heavily on the under here.

754
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably in line with the market on this one.

755
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm projecting them for nine wins. But I think the

756
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 2: defense should bounce back this year. You know, they didn't

757
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: get a single snap from either Danielle Hunter or Michael Pierce.

758
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: Both are back this year. You know, they ranked thirtieth

759
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: DVA against the run. They should be much better with

760
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: Thompson and then Pierce back. They also added Patrick Peterson,

761
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: who could you know, have a revival of his career.

762
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: But either way, you know, Mike simmer is going to

763
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: get the most of this unit, so I expect them

764
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: to return to above average this year, and then the

765
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: offense should be fine. You know, Justin Jefferson filled the

766
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: whole left by Stefan Diggs quite well last year.

767
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: He looked really good.

768
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: And you know they still have Kirk Cousins, Dalvin Cook, Adamfield.

769
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: So I do like this offense. The main issue is

770
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: the offensive line should be an issue, but I think

771
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: the rest of the team will kind of make up

772
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: for that. So either way, I do like this team.

773
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: But I'm in line with the market right here.

774
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the defense improvement is really going to

775
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: be key. I mean, they started one in four last year,

776
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: and those four losses they gave up one hundred and

777
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: thirty five points. And then to close the year, they

778
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 4: went one in three and they gave up twenty six

779
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 4: thirty three fifty two thirty five to close.

780
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: They're so their way to DVUA, which you know measures

781
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: the end of the season more heavily. They finished twenty

782
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: sixth DVI defense, which is insane for a Zimmer led team.

783
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: But yeah, a bounce back would be huge for them.

784
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're you know, you could expect Mike

785
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Zimbern out this defense, right, I mean they were They

786
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: finished top five an efficiency in twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen.

787
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: They were just crushed by injuries last year. I mean

788
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Pier stopped it out. Hunter and bar were ouph for

789
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: the year early on. You know, Hill and Hughes were

790
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: out for the year. Of week four, they were I

791
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: mean they had just a bunch of rookies out there,

792
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: had no idea what they were doing at corner. They

793
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: had no front seven. You know, Ken, you know you

794
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: have Keed just gets hurt after Week twelve, crushed by

795
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: injuries as bad as they can get. So the defense

796
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: should be find the run. Defense should really step up.

797
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: You know, they got Richardson, Tomlinson, you know, they brought

798
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: Griffin back, and then you get Hunter and Pierce who

799
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: didn't play at all last year. So that front seven

800
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: should be a lot better. It's gonna be an experienced secondary.

801
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: Now it's an aging one, but you're gonna have Peterson, Breelin, Alexander,

802
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Boyd and Dancer will probably go to

803
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth corners, so it's gonna be much more experienced.

804
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, I would have loved Patrick Grierson goa like

805
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: safety somewhere's his elite man skills are gone, but the

806
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: secondary is no doubt. I'm proven what they had last year,

807
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: So overall, the defense will be a lot better. The

808
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: biggest question here is their offensive line. You know, you

809
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: really only trust Brian O'Neill. It's really young everywhere else.

810
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: That might end up being their downfall. But the defense

811
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: will keep them in games. You know, they have an

812
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: identity on offense. They have two good receivers, a veteran

813
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: quarterback and one of the best running backs in the NFL.

814
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: So they'll be around. They'll be competitive in games. I'm

815
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: at about you know. I mean, this win total basically

816
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: is nine if you account for the jew so I'm

817
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: at like eight eight dish, So nothing here for me.

818
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: One thing to note, though, Dan Bailey's gone. Their kicking

819
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: situation was awful last year. That can only help.

820
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was just a nightmare with Bailey

821
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: and it seemed like every week he I mean, he

822
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: had the stretch where it was just like two miskicks

823
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: a week or something like that. So yeah, the defense

824
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 4: was uncharacteristically poor.

825
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: The kicking game was poor. Before we move on.

826
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: I do think It's interesting though, because in the fantasy

827
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: community there's a lot of talk of regression with pretty

828
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: much every key member of the Vikings offense.

829
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: So I just wonder, like, how would that all work?

830
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: Because you got Kirk Cousins who threw thirty one touchdowns

831
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: last year. You have Adam Thiewen who caught fourteen touchdowns

832
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: last year. Justin Jefferson put up a fourteen hundred yard

833
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: season as a rookie that that would be hard to match,

834
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: you know, in any year for any receiver. And then

835
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook touched the bout three hundred and fifty six

836
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: times and gained over nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage.

837
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, like, is anyone going to regress?

838
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 4: Is No one's gonna regress because they only really give,

839
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: Like those are their guys on offense.

840
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of saying that Adam Zonan's gonna aggress almost

841
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: every one of our pods, and that's in the touchdown department.

842
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: I think those touchdowns will still be there, They're just gonna.

843
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Go a little bit.

844
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: Of those are going to go to Irv Smith, who

845
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm really high on. I think he's gonna have a

846
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: breakout season in place of Ky Rudolfs. So I just

847
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: think if anything, those dealing touchdowns, some of those will

848
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: go to IRV Smith this year.

849
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: And iMOS spoke, I said, thirty one thirty five, thirty

850
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: five touchdowns for Kirk Cousins last season.

851
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: Remember, was actually a really really important player for that offense.

852
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: There was a lot of times last year that you

853
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: could just tell that that Cousins and Rudolph had a

854
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: good rapport, whether it was like a big third down

855
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: in the red zone or you know, a third down,

856
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, at a key situation, he would always look

857
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: for him and come through earth. Smith has to pick

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: that slack and he's talented enough to do so. But

859
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a big piece this year.

860
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the Vikings are just hoping they

861
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: don't have to score as much as they did last

862
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: year to stay in games. I mean that defense getting ugly,

863
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: That's that's what was really going on.

864
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: Because I am a.

865
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: Little concerned about the depth on offense, uh, just because

866
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: it's so locked into those top three guys that you know,

867
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: if Deland's really slowing down or he misses time, really

868
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: have nothing in terms of you know, the wide receivers

869
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: you have, I know you have Smith Marcet is a rookie,

870
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: but they're talking about kJ Osbourne is the number three

871
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: wide out, so like they really have nothing there Dalvin Cook.

872
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 4: We know running backs are risky in terms of injuries

873
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: when they touched the ball, you know, three hundred and

874
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: fifty plus times, so and you know one of their

875
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: rookie backs also got hurt. So you know they still Madison,

876
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: but it's just it could we get a little thin

877
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: there on that offense if one of the key skill

878
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: guys misses any amount of time. So they're gonna they're

879
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: gonna have to win on that defense a lot more.

880
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: So.

881
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not betting the over here, but I wouldn't

882
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: be surprised for a pretty good season from them, just

883
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: because I think it's a two team racings to be here.

884
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would from a fantasy perspective, and that's not

885
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: my are forte. I would. I would guess they all

886
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: regressed because last year was a lot to do with

887
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: the game script. I mean they were they were giving

888
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: up forty forty five points a lot of times coming

889
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: from behind, and you're just chucking the ball. You're in

890
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: these shootouts, you know, they're gonna You're gonna see a

891
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: lot more Viking Zimmer type game scripts here, games in

892
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: the you know, in the twenties instead of the forties.

893
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know he loves to run the ball

894
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: when they have the lead and when the defense is

895
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: playing better.

896
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's partly. Why. How do you think that

897
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: the offense will regress?

898
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense was twenty seventh in yards allowed and

899
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: the offense was fourth in yards game, So you know,

900
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 4: as the defense improves, I think you're gonna see, yeah,

901
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: just a lower volume, lower offensive volume in Vikings games.

902
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: So maybe this maybe a profitable under team early in

903
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: the year before the market.

904
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: Fully catches on.

905
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: We'll have to see about that, but I do expect

906
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: the defense to rebound here. Let's move on to the

907
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: Chicago Bears. Their win total is seven and a half

908
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: at bet MGM, juiced to the under at minus one

909
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: thirty and stuck.

910
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm out on Chicago.

911
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: I think this team is in for a big letdown.

912
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: Matt Naggey has kind of kept him in that five

913
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: hundred range well throughout his tenure. But I look at

914
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: this team, I'm worried about the defense. I think it

915
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: lost you know, it's not going to be as good

916
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 4: as it has been. I worry about the old line.

917
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: I think it's one of the bottom five to seven

918
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: units in the league. And then you look at the

919
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: schedule and the quarterbacks they're facing, and I mean, it's

920
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: just it's gonna be tough. I mean, you got Rogers,

921
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: you got Brady, you got Lamar Big, Ben Kyler, you know,

922
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson start out with the Rams on the road.

923
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: Who you know got the Browns on the road in

924
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: the first three weeks. I just I struggle to see

925
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: how his team gets over this win total.

926
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? I agree. I mean if

927
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: I tweeted out after that preseason game, turns out Mitch

928
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Bortles is elite. The problem is just Matt Naggy. I mean,

929
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: to watch Mitch Bortles right down was was something. So Yeah.

930
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean I think they're they're in. They're in a

931
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: mess of trouble. I mean that just not only this

932
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: year and the team. I mean they're cap strapped. The

933
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: picks that they have, I mean the offensive Let's start

934
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: at the offensive line. You know they draft Jacobs, he

935
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: has back surgery, he's out. I mean Jason Peters. You're

936
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: gonna rely on him at left tackle, a fetti. They're

937
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: all hurt too and coming back from injury, moving around,

938
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: they're they're building no chemistry in camp. It's it's just

939
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: a mess. And then are they going to start Dalton

940
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: because they don't trust the offensive line, they don't trust

941
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Fields yet. I think that would be a mistake. I mean,

942
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: don't you want Fields his legs? I don't know, but regardless,

943
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't trust this offensive line or Matt Naggy. And

944
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: then on the defensive side, you got a new defensive

945
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: coordinator and you know you will get back healthy and

946
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman back and you know Nichols. It's such a

947
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: good defensive front. It's a strength of the team. But

948
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense is math. This isn't a vintage.

949
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: This isn't your older Brothers Bears team. I mean Brokwon

950
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: Smith I love, but Trevathan Aging, I mean Mac is Aging.

951
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: They're corners. Jalen Johnson, I mean huge injury. Risks is

952
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: a guy who's hurt every every year, but he played

953
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: well as a Rookie's second, your corner, he's your number

954
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: one quarter. It looks like Kendall wildor might be your

955
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: second corner fifth round draft pick out of Georgia Southern.

956
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I think two years ago. You know you brought in

957
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: Already Burns and Desmond trufont I mean it's Duke Shelley.

958
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're the corners are just look so you

959
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: know it's an aging d dicey corners. You're gonna Dalton

960
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: or rookie QB with a disastrous offensive line and Matt

961
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Maggie Stile the coach. Tough schedule as well. The depth issues. Also,

962
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: they have depth issues, so you know, they traded so

963
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: many top picks for some of these players that they

964
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: just don't have a lot of depth. So you know,

965
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive line and other positions where you

966
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: have an injury. I mean, you know, corner goes down,

967
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: a safety goes down, it's bad. So yeah, I'm selling

968
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the Bears. I'm projected to six point six, So yeah,

969
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm very low on the Bears. I'm on the under here.

970
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah that's around where I got it too, and this

971
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 4: has been my favorite under still on the board, I think,

972
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 4: because I do think it's about a win off.

973
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Sean, where are you on the twenty twenty one Bears.

974
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the defense should still be pretty good.

975
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: You know, getting Eddie Goldman back is huge, but as

976
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Stuck you mentioned, the cornerback depth is a concern, especially

977
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: you know, they had to release Kyle Fuller, so they

978
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: if they struggle, this defense could be average and then

979
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: they're in trouble and the offensive line is brutal. You know,

980
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: I thought Tevin Jenkins is gonna be pretty solid as

981
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: a rookie, but now they's out for the season, They're

982
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: in trouble, and you know, I think Field, his scrambling

983
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: ability may be able to function behind a terrible offensive line.

984
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Stucky our boy Jimmy Graham is already comparing Fields to

985
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. We know that he's he's been able to

986
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: produce behind a bad air line, so I think, if

987
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: if anything, it makes a compelling case to start Fields

988
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: out of the gate. But yeah, either way, this team

989
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: has a very low floor. Although they were able to

990
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: win eight games last year with Mitch Trubisky, so that's

991
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: why I thought that maybe the over might be good.

992
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: But after watching Mitch tear it up last second preseason,

993
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't the concern. So yeah, the coaching staff

994
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: is in trouble. This could spiral the control. So even

995
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: though I'm sort of in line with this seven and

996
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: a half, I'm staying away because there's too many outs

997
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: for this under it could get really bad.

998
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: What are you projecting? Who starts? I mean, I would

999
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: assume Nag, he's going to make the wrong decision. He's

1000
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna start Dalton. O we eight, Yeah, we have to go.

1001
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: We have to go with what he's saying. He's saying Dalton,

1002
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that he's He's essentially going to get

1003
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: forced to play fields. I'm guessing by week three, like

1004
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: the crowd is not going to allow them to keep

1005
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: trotting Dalton out there.

1006
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: And let's remember too that even if justin fields, he

1007
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: should be an upgrade. If he's not an upgrade over

1008
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, there's probably there's bigger problems in Chicago than

1009
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: the number of ones that we've already laid out there.

1010
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: But rookie quarterbacks over the last decade, you know, first

1011
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: round picks in their first year have just a thirty

1012
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: eight percent winning percentage, so that the expectations still have

1013
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 4: to be held in check. You know, even if Fields

1014
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: does take over and let's not let's not forget like stuck.

1015
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: We talked about this all beginning of the year.

1016
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: Last year, this was such a fraudulent team to even

1017
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: get to what was it five and one? Like they

1018
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: you know, they come from behind against the Lions, they

1019
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: barely beat the Giants on that, you know, in the

1020
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: last second. They come from behind against the Falcons and

1021
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: bare we win then and then they get that Bucks

1022
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: win where Tom Brady forgot how to play football for

1023
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: a second, and then they beat the Teddy what are Panthers?

1024
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Then they lose sixth straight, and then they closed the

1025
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: season and make a playoff run because they get to

1026
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: play the Texans, who they thrashed thirty eight seven, the Vikings,

1027
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: who had nobody on defense, and then the Jacksonville Jaguars

1028
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 4: where they thrashed forty one to seventeen. Like this team,

1029
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: there's nothing to hang your hat on with this team,

1030
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: even going back to last year, and now I think

1031
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: they're gonna be worse. So yeah, this is this is

1032
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 4: an under for me. Just I'm just hoping Justin Fields

1033
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 4: gets his reps in because they need to go to him.

1034
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah very soon, didn't They bench Trubisky last year when

1035
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: they were three and zero.

1036
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: I mean, they seem like what happened bencherm in Week one,

1037
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.

1038
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: So yeah it.

1039
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, this team, they've been hanging on by a thread.

1040
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 4: I can't believe they made the playoffs last year. Of course,

1041
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: they got there and scored nine points against the New

1042
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: Orleans Saints, So that tells you what.

1043
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: You need to talk about. Let's not talk about how

1044
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: they got the nine points.

1045
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: Jimmy walkoff, Jimmy walk Off.

1046
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: Really stay really scored three points.

1047
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: Man. I can't believe Jimmy Graham's still around. I can't

1048
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: believe you put up eight touchdowns last year that that's

1049
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: something positive for Chicago. But yeah, I think it's going

1050
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: to be a rough year. I just look up and

1051
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: down our roster, look at the schedule. They played the

1052
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 4: hardest schedule by the athletics quarterback tiers. So you know,

1053
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: they have all these scouts in you know, personnel men

1054
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 4: around the NFL rankle the quarterbacks and put them in tiers,

1055
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: and then they kind of use a composite score to.

1056
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: Look at the schedules in Chicago has.

1057
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: The toughest one and the biggest difference between their opponent,

1058
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: opposing quarterbacks and their quarterbacks. You know, Dalton folds and fields. Again,

1059
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: you have to expect, you have to keep your expectations

1060
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: in check with him. So yeah, I think it's going

1061
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: to be a tough year. Speaking of tough years, let's

1062
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: finish this out with the Detroit Lions, who are just

1063
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 4: in a in a bind. It seems like their win

1064
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: totals four and a half. The older is actually juiced

1065
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 4: to minus one fifty. But I mean, stuck this Lions team,

1066
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: there's not there's another team which is not much there.

1067
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you got Jared Goffkuda maybe, I mean, what

1068
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: are you looking at with this Lions team?

1069
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: Kuda? Was you better hope Akuda is something. He was

1070
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: arguably the worst corner and then yeah, exactly, It's hard

1071
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: to project. It's hard to expect much from rookie corners.

1072
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: But he was awful. I mean, he couldn't they couldn't

1073
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: have him on the field. You know, it's this this

1074
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: this team is basically an offensive line. I mean, Dan Campbell,

1075
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: that's that's who he wants it to be. It's it's

1076
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: actually a really good offensive line on paper.

1077
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: If you can find the Lions and the Giants. He

1078
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: might get a five hundred team. Oh yeah, yeah.

1079
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if Soul pans out and right tackle.

1080
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean you move by tie in. You got Ragnel,

1081
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: Jackson and Decker. I mean, it's a really good offensive line.

1082
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're throwing it to. I hate

1083
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. I mean you know this. I think he's awful.

1084
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: I think he needs his hand needs to be held

1085
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: by Sean McVay to do anything, and he can't be

1086
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: under pressure. The good thing is he might not under

1087
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. But I don't really know he's

1088
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: throwing to. I don't think the scheme is gonna be

1089
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be very I mean Anthony

1090
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Lindsay offensive coordinator. I don't think it's it's gonna be

1091
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: the same situation where he was with the Rams. The defense,

1092
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, you bring in Aaron Glenn to be defensive coordinator,

1093
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna shift to a three to four Yeah, split safeties.

1094
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: You could probably expect them to be more aggressive. They're

1095
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: probably gonna blitz a lot more h and which is

1096
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: a good thing because they just played basic man. They

1097
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: basically just sat in cob basic Cover one. There the

1098
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: most predictable defense in the NFL every under Patricia. That's

1099
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: all he did basic cover one did nothing else. So

1100
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: they need to find a way to force turnovers. You know,

1101
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna move a Pore and Flowers to the outside

1102
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: of that three four so maybe the you know, they're

1103
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna play a lot more zone too. I think

1104
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: this it's a good thing. So maybe they get a

1105
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: bump from a scheme perspective, but who's you know, who

1106
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: are the corners that you're trusting here. I mean, you're

1107
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna really need a Kuda to step up and I

1108
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. This is a team that is

1109
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: really weak at quarterback, at wide receiver and cornerback's that's

1110
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: a disaster in today's NFL. You know, it's a good

1111
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, which helps, but other than that, there's not

1112
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: much here. Maybe you know, they can get a bump

1113
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: from a scheme perspective, but I'm not in love with

1114
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. I'm not in love with Jared Goff. You know,

1115
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: it's home non division games against you know, San fran Baltimore,

1116
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Cincy Philly in Arizona, So maybe there's a potential for

1117
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: some wins there on the road. You're going Rams Steelers, Browns, Broncos, Falcons, Seahawks.

1118
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: So I mean it looks like like three and eight

1119
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: dealing out of division. So can they go three and

1120
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: three in the division? I don't see it. This is

1121
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: on our wind Total podcast. Earlier in the year, I

1122
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: played Denver over seven and the Lions under five were

1123
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: my two bets pre draft and pre everything. So I

1124
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: do have a position on under five. I actually don't

1125
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: like those a bunch as I did then. I still

1126
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: show value but and I have the Bears under too,

1127
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: and I hate going two unders in the same division,

1128
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: but you know there's some correlation there, but I do

1129
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: show value them both. I already have a position on

1130
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: under lines. If I had to choose, i'd go under

1131
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Bears now with updated numbers. But yeah, I'm selling this team.

1132
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: It should be a bad football team this year.

1133
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree with that because I think,

1134
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 4: as I mentioned at the top, this is a two

1135
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: team race in the top of the division.

1136
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: It's it's really there's a big split in between.

1137
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: But Sean, the under is juiced to plus one twenty

1138
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: at bet MGM with four and a half as the

1139
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: win total.

1140
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean, is that enticing at all?

1141
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: You know, I know you're not supposed to really attack

1142
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: these these lower wind totals. There's not as much room

1143
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: I think sometimes, but is that enticeing to you at all?

1144
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: Of course it's enticing. Just a potential for enplosure here

1145
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: is pretty high. You know, this is one of the

1146
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 2: worst teams on paper. You know, head coach Dan Campbell

1147
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: is a bit of a mystery. I doubt he's capable

1148
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: of getting the most of a week roster and stuck.

1149
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: You mentioned they have a really good offensive line, but

1150
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure this power football break kneecap style is

1151
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: gonna be good when you're trailing. I mean, they they're

1152
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna have to have an effective passing attack. And you know,

1153
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: this is arguably the worst wide receiver depth chart in

1154
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: the league, So Golf's gonna have to lean on tight

1155
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: end TJ. Howkinson and rookie I'm on Saint Brown. There's

1156
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: not much to like about this team, and they really

1157
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: do need Jeffrey Kruda to step up in hear two.

1158
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: They need to fill that whole left by Darius Slay.

1159
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: It's you need a shutdown corner in this division. You know,

1160
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 2: they have to go up against Alan Robinson twice, DeVante

1161
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: Adams twice, Adam feel and Justin Jefferson twice. So that's

1162
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: that's a pretty big concern. And they have one of

1163
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: the tougher schedules in the league. They don't get to

1164
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: play themselves, so they have the second hardest strength of schedule.

1165
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's so much potential for implosion here that

1166
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: I definitely interested in taking me under, especially a plus

1167
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: one twenty five.

1168
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest worry if I'm betting a Lion's under

1169
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 4: is that they beat the Bears twice, because that would

1170
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: kind of throw a wrench in things.

1171
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: I think that that would be a little a little

1172
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: bit of sweat. The worry is Jared Goff might be

1173
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: too good to be on a you know, four wins

1174
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: or less team. But yeah, I don't see that, So

1175
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: that's why the potential didn't Jared.

1176
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: GoF go Owen seven is a rookie with like, yeah,

1177
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: he went Owen seven is a rookie, so you know

1178
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 4: it was a year head.

1179
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: Coach, so yeah, maybe he is. You know, he needs

1180
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: Campbell to be a functioning head coach. Who knows about

1181
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: that though.

1182
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not knocking Campbell, but this is a

1183
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: pretty disastrous Fisher like team in other aspects. So Jared

1184
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: Goff is not going to play you out of the

1185
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: seller like Jared Goff is going to operate, you know,

1186
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 4: an offense in good conditions like he did under Sean

1187
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: McVay and still struggle at times with pressure in different things.

1188
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: But he's not gonna lift you like. He's not gonna

1189
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: put you on his back and lift a poorly talented

1190
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: team out. So GoF wouldn't be like I wouldn't be

1191
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: worried about Gough. I guess I would just be worried

1192
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: about like, oh, you know, they get a couple wins

1193
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: against the Bears, maybe they beat the Bengals or something,

1194
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: and then you got three wins and then it's the sweat.

1195
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: So that's the only thing I worry about. But I'd

1196
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: reading towards the under too, because I think it's a

1197
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: top heavy division with Green Bay and Minnesota. So all right,

1198
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: so before we get out of here, let's recap with

1199
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: our best bets, our top under, and our top over

1200
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: for the NFC East or the NFC North. Stucky, I'll

1201
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: start with.

1202
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, favorite under I'm going with the Chicago Bears

1203
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: under seven and a half wins. This team is just

1204
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: a mess, from its cap situation to the coaching look.

1205
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a mess, which I think is

1206
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: ultimately going to be their downfall, whether they play justin

1207
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: Fields or Andy Dalton. I'm not a fan of Matt

1208
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: Naggian on the defensive side of the ball, that's been

1209
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: their strength in recent years. But it's an aging defense.

1210
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: It's an aging group of linebackers. I know the defensive

1211
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: line is strong, but take a look at the cornerbacks.

1212
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: You better hope Jalen Johnson stays healthy in his second

1213
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: year because you know you might have a fifth round

1214
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 1: corner out of Georgia Southern that you took in twenty

1215
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty as you're starting number two after losing Fuller. So

1216
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't not a buyer in the corner group. It's

1217
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: an aging defense, mess of an offensive line, dicey quarterback situation,

1218
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: and just a poorly coach team. I'm going under on

1219
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. As far as my over, I don't

1220
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: have any win total overs, but I took a flyer

1221
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: on the Philadelphia Eagles plus five point fifty to win

1222
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: the NFC East have it at a back to back

1223
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: winner in the Nfcason's two thousand and four, So you

1224
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: can cross off the Washington football team. And you know,

1225
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: sixteen of the past eighteen NFL seasons, we've had a

1226
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: team go from worse to first in a division. Maybe

1227
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: it's the Eagles. Look, I think that the coaching change

1228
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a positive, especially in the defensive

1229
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: side of the ball with Jonathan Gannon. I think they'll

1230
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: get a scheme bump similar to what you saw with

1231
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: the Rams. Offensive line will be healthier. They obviously have

1232
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons if Jalen Hurts can take that

1233
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: next step and progress. Look, there's a high ceiling here

1234
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe they end up trading for a quarterback,

1235
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: and I'd love it. With the schedule, they get a

1236
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: bye week and then their final four games are all

1237
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: inter division games, three of them are at home. So

1238
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: I like the way the schedule sets up. If they're

1239
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: in it at the end, they're gonna have a shot

1240
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: to make up ground and potentially steal what could be

1241
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: a weak division. Cowboys totally the class of it. But

1242
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: if Dak Prescott isn't healthy, this thing's wide open. I

1243
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: think the Eagles, which have a very low floor and

1244
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: a high ceiling, wide range of outcomes, take a shot

1245
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: on the Wind Division.

1246
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: All right, Sean Stucky likes the Bears under seven and

1247
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: a half wins and the Eagles over seven and a

1248
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: half wins.

1249
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: More so to win the division. But where are you going?

1250
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: So?

1251
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: I like the Lions under four and a half wins

1252
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: at plus one twenty five. You know, the O line

1253
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: could be the strength of this team, but that's about it.

1254
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: This is one of the worst rosters on paper. New

1255
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: head coach Dan Campbell's pretty unproven. I doubt he's going

1256
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: to be able to maximize the talent on this weak roster.

1257
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: The potential for implosion here is high. They had the

1258
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: second toughest schedule corn of my strength of Schedule rankings.

1259
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: So I love the under here at four and a

1260
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: half at plus one twenty five. For the over, I

1261
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: like the Packers to go over their win total at

1262
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: ten and a half. That's plus one ten right now.

1263
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: You know Aaron Rodgers is entering potentially his final season

1264
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: in Green Bay. I think he's going to want to

1265
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: go with a bang and have another MVP like performance.

1266
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: You know this team from a roster building standpoint is elite.

1267
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: They have you know, elite players at the four key positions,

1268
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, DeVante Adams at wide receiver, David

1269
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: Bactieri at left tackle, and Jared Alexander at corner.

1270
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: So I love to make up with this roster.

1271
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: Their defense only needs to be average for them to

1272
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: win games, and I think they could be sneaky good

1273
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: this year. So it's a team that has a very

1274
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: high four high ceiling combo. I love the over ten

1275
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: and a half wins here at plus one ten.

1276
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: And I will close it up by going with the

1277
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: Bears under as well. I think that's the best bet

1278
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: of the eight teams that we talked about in the

1279
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 4: NFC East and NFC North.

1280
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: They have a bottom five O line rated by Pro

1281
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: Football Focus.

1282
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 4: They have the toughest slate of opposing quarterbacks, and rookie

1283
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: first round quarterbacks have a sub forty percent win rate

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Speaker 4: in year one, so Justin Fields likely won't be the savior,

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Speaker 4: especially with all the glaring holes on this roster. My

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Speaker 4: favorite over is the Packers is well, but Sean broke

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Speaker 4: it down. I mean Aaron Rodgers thirteen and three is

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Speaker 4: the last two years for Matt Laflor. So I'll give

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Speaker 4: you guys another best bet, and it's another under, and

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Speaker 4: it's the Giants. The Giants have the worst O line

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Speaker 4: in the league, and I think that they're the second

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Speaker 4: best bet for me after the Bears under among these

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Speaker 4: two divisions. Just a team that's going to face a

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Speaker 4: decently tough schedule, not a top tier quarterback. Yes, they

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Speaker 4: have some weapons and it looks good on paper, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think they'll have enough on the offensive line

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Speaker 4: to be competitive and win games. And that's the thing

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Speaker 4: that's really that's what really sinks teams is olne play

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Speaker 4: when everything else looks good on paper. So I'd be

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Speaker 4: very wary about the Giants, and I love their under

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Speaker 4: seven and a half. So that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 4: part one of our NFC Win Totals podcast on the

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Speaker 4: Odds Maker.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Chris Rabon.

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Speaker 4: until next time.

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Speaker 3: Let's get this money