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Speaker 4: coming up as well. Draymond Green and the Warriors. I

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Speaker 4: guess the Warriors owner came out and talked about how

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Speaker 4: Draymond Green, I guess was never going anywhere and he's

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Speaker 4: such a big part of.

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Speaker 2: What they've done, and.

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Speaker 4: I guess they have no matter what's happened, they just

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Speaker 2: I've never un sound sold.

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Speaker 5: With Joe Lacub. No, that was never an option. We

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Speaker 5: was never trade Draymond.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's crazy gang gang with us. But Rob

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Speaker 4: g he did have glowing words to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you did kind of set it up already.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing here, but yes, well

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Speaker 6: Of set it all there, But yes, Joe Lacub did

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Speaker 6: a sit down interview with Tim Kawakami, longtime Bay Area

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Speaker 2: Now it was with the San Francisco Standard.

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Speaker 4: I remember when he came to New York. Tim Kawakami

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Speaker 4: Worked in Philadelphia before that. I've known Tim for forty years,

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Speaker 6: They covered a lot of different topics, and one of

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Speaker 6: the things they talked about was, of course the reported

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Speaker 6: failed pursuit of Giannis at the Gumbo at the trade deadline,

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Speaker 6: right like, they were supposedly one of the teams that

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Speaker 6: They got Porzingis instead. And in the sit down with

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Speaker 6: Draymond Green was never included in any of these Giannis talks,

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Speaker 6: Green is a core person in the Warriors franchise. And

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Speaker 6: according to Joe Lacub, you don't just trade away a

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Speaker 6: Draymond Green simply or easily. You do it if you

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Speaker 6: have ton you're getting a tremendous value. But long story short,

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Speaker 6: Draymond means too much of this organization for us to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to go first, on this or well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: They have made all concessions for Draymond.

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Speaker 5: Draymond has been the guy who's said things, who's walked

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Speaker 5: They have made up in their minds that while Steph

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Speaker 4: Ain't nothing to it, you know, a little punch here

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Speaker 4: Draymon is the guy in the locker room when something

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Speaker 5: We talk about all the time. Why wouldn't Steph Curry

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Speaker 5: speak to Draymond step up? Why wouldn't he challenge it?

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Speaker 5: just not his makeup? And I think they've realized they

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you go to Vegas for a few week.

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Speaker 4: I would never let somebody else do that, but go ahead,

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Speaker 5: Were gonna need you. So I think he comes from

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Speaker 5: that school of thought. But they have locked in with Draymond.

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Speaker 5: We've seen instances where you would think a coach would

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Speaker 5: not fire, But you know, release him, and they have it.

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Speaker 5: And I think they've realized they've locked in and he's

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Speaker 5: the guy that wrong or right within our locker rooms,

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Speaker 5: within the confines of this team. He is absolutely our leader,

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Speaker 5: he's our best defender. He's the engine that gets us going.

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Speaker 5: And I think they've just signed their name in blood

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Speaker 5: with Draymond. I couldn't disagree more.

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Speaker 4: And I think the reason that we'll never look at

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Speaker 4: at them will be because of Draymond Green and actually

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Speaker 4: the damage that he's done.

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Speaker 2: You could have all the Draymond Greens you want.

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Speaker 4: Without Steph Curry, you're not winning the championships or Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what he does. The dirty work and

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Speaker 4: yelling at people in the club locker room, that all

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Speaker 4: sounds good when you got a couple superstars knocking down three's.

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Speaker 2: From all over the court.

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Speaker 4: He single handedly cost the Warriors three championships.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says.

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Speaker 4: Getting suspended for that game five right, that probably if

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Speaker 4: thank you, Draymond Green. And after they lost, they begged

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Speaker 2: And guess what Kevin Durant did.

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Speaker 4: And he rescued them, and he won two championships.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't on the bus like Draymond Green.

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Speaker 4: He was driving the damn bus and won two finals

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Speaker 4: MVP's and was the best player without question. He took

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Speaker 4: in the Bay Area. I don't care what you say,

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Speaker 4: oh Steph Woods, you know asquies into KD and all that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: if you're that guy, I don't care who shows up.

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Speaker 4: I'm always gonna be that guy, no matter I can

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Speaker 2: He was the best player. Everybody knows it.

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Speaker 4: And then he calls him the B word on national

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Speaker 2: And then they go and win another championship without KD.

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Speaker 4: And guess who's the young guy who was supposed to

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Speaker 4: be a part of the second wave with the veterans

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Speaker 4: and he sucker.

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Speaker 2: Punches Jordan Poole.

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Speaker 4: It makes you lose a lot of respect for Steve

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Speaker 4: Kerr and what has transpired. Didn't even have the balls

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Speaker 4: to suspend him. Instead, they allowed Draymond to go out

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Speaker 4: and tell people that he took time away from the

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Speaker 2: Who does that?

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Speaker 4: So why I get the importance of having a Draymond

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Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 3: He is not.

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Speaker 2: He's the complimentary player that you need.

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Speaker 4: But without Steph had he been drafted and going to

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Speaker 4: he would not be going to the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: or be in all these a He would not because

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Speaker 2: That's why he didn't take the lucrative deal to go

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Speaker 4: And because he knows he ain't that player and he

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Speaker 5: No, because he knows. But I think you're under selling.

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Speaker 5: That's what makes a team a team like he knows

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Speaker 5: exactly what he is. I'm just saying to you're our

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be the heart and soul. And I'm with

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Speaker 5: you to that. He drives me crazy. We coming here

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Speaker 5: two three times here we gotta talk about it because

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Speaker 5: he even did something saying something that's just that absolutely

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll give you. I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 5: You covered those Pistons, the Detroit Basketball Pistons. If Rashid

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Speaker 5: from knowing the game. If Rashid Wallace was more locked

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Speaker 5: in that Pistons team might have won another one. But

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Speaker 5: so many games he get kicked out off the most

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Speaker 5: random like what are you it's first quarter? Why are

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Speaker 5: you getting double teed up? Yelling at the red getting

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Speaker 5: he's the best player than no. I'm what I'm saying

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Speaker 5: is those are the guys where they drive you crazy,

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Speaker 4: But but she didn't do the soe like like the

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Speaker 4: KD and the Jordan Pool, those are bad things to me.

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Speaker 2: Was I don't disagree franchise.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's just and and if if KD was

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Speaker 4: still there, they might have won two more champs I'm

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Speaker 4: dead serious, and would have been an all time great team.

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Speaker 2: And instead.

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Speaker 5: I get what you're saying about him, like right, you're

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Speaker 5: listing kind of what Draymond has done.

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Speaker 2: Because show had something to do with him too. Well,

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Speaker 2: y'all give way too many.

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Speaker 5: of those three. I give you all Draymond's out game five. Steph,

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Speaker 4: I've already documented, is he's the author of the biggest

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Speaker 4: Knowing that he's out and then you're going to do that.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing I'm saying so that it didn't

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Speaker 5: So here's my question. That's why he can't be the

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Speaker 5: Clay's gone, Harrison Bonds goa live say everybody's gone, Kad's gone.

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Speaker 5: Two people remain, You're obvious in Steph and the guy

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Speaker 2: People would say, well, why he's gotta go. He's bad

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Speaker 2: Steve kerk hecknah, I love Draymond, he can't go.

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Speaker 5: That just shows me how and like they're screaming, I

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Speaker 4: Much they love him because they because they've had the

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Speaker 4: Could have Draymond on your team, and if you don't

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Speaker 2: You are not going to win if you don't have shot.

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Speaker 4: Makers or people would have been that great without rod

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Speaker 4: They won three without them, No, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 5: Hi, I say he was the one. He led the

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Speaker 5: That's why I used the the Dennis Robbin argument in

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Speaker 4: Of your screen, all Right? Eight seven, seven ninety nine

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Speaker 4: On Fox, Rob talking about Draymond Joe Lake of the

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Speaker 4: Owner has come out basically said he's untradable, he's our guy,

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Speaker 2: Maybe even expendable. He's expendable need for the right thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody else would want him. I don't

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Speaker 4: think he works with anybody else. I don't I think

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Speaker 4: he fits that team. I can't talk you about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean at this point, but would you be giving

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Speaker 5: You'd have to be a contender who feels like you

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Speaker 2: All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Who

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Speaker 4: John and Durham, North Carolina. You're on the odd couple

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm good?

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Speaker 2: How are you guys doing excellent? John? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Okay? So normally I am on your side, tell him.

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Speaker 8: I have to absolutely disagree with you on this one.

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Speaker 8: Is does Draymond more hurt than harm? Probably not hurt,

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Speaker 8: more hurt than winning. But he's definitely not a necessity

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Speaker 9: He might just be the cherry on top of the dessert.

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Speaker 8: You replaced with another role with another role player anywhere

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Speaker 4: So a guy who's been a multiple time All Star,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many that on finals. I disagree

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not saying he's a lobster.

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Speaker 4: But the idea that he's not a nice component to

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Speaker 4: He couldn't lead a team to win anything, but he

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Speaker 4: doesn't have to. But that's what what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: There's a handful of guys who can lead a team.

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Speaker 5: There's like five, maybe in an NBA at a time.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Darren in Maryland, you're on the couple of

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Speaker 2: What's up, Darren? What's what's up there? You?

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Speaker 9: Hey? First of all, I'm great, I'm an our Heart,

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Speaker 9: Stealth and Warrior fan, and I'm gonna tell you like this,

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Speaker 9: I say, Draymond's been both a benefit as well as detrimental.

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Speaker 9: Early when he had earnest strips and replaced David Lee,

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Speaker 9: and claim made him look great. But he's his niche

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Speaker 9: is the fact that he knows how to get them

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Speaker 9: shot off. The detriment is this, he costs the Warriors

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Speaker 9: the opportunity to be the greatest team of all time,

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Speaker 9: having the greatest season of all time. When he fell

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Speaker 9: If everybody who keep saying Steph choked and didn't couldn't

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Speaker 9: get those games? Oh you got anybody who played sports know,

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Speaker 9: once you lose momentum in any series of any game,

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Speaker 9: no matter how great you are, it's hard to get

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Speaker 9: as much as no matter how great you are. And

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Speaker 2: Darn Darren, Darren, Darren, Yes, yes, I will give you.

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Speaker 2: He lost the game. He was out of game.

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Speaker 4: I get that you had three games for the unanimous

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying he's Game five.

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Speaker 5: They would have loved to have had him, But you

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Speaker 5: got three games you couldn't win one. Justin in New Mexico,

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Speaker 7: Hey? So let's say y'all doing on this slash bag Friday?

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Speaker 2: Man, brother, how are you?

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Speaker 7: Hey? I'm doing great. Hey, y'all look really good on

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Speaker 4: You see that the Tokyo Giants hat my man gave

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Speaker 4: just gave me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what's the let me see it back? What's looking

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Speaker 2: like that? This guy's got their logo, that's it's got

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Speaker 2: like the Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I like that, No, I love it. Oh. I just

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Speaker 7: had a couple of points, man. First one was I

445
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Speaker 7: think Draymond Hill and her them during their run they

446
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Speaker 7: needed his toughness, but I feel like Curry gave him

447
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Speaker 7: too much leash man like he And the second point

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Speaker 7: is this Saint in the nineties with rob Men in

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Speaker 7: the late eighties, like, it's a different NBA, so he

450
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Speaker 7: can't play that same style like Robman was a.

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Speaker 10: Beast, right, you got to wave with a lot more

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Speaker 10: back then.

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Speaker 7: I think Draymond's Tipperman. I think they just gave him

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Speaker 7: too much leave weight.

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Speaker 5: I agree with that, but that's where I meant when

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Speaker 5: I said Steph isn't quite the leader that they need,

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Speaker 5: and I think that played a big rof. Steph was

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Speaker 5: more of a leader. I agree that. I think they

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Speaker 5: would have way less of a leash with Draymond. I

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Speaker 5: think he's had to be that leader of that team,

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Speaker 5: and that's why Steve Kurr, Joe Laca, but no guys

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Speaker 5: love him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for the calls.

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Speaker 5: Rick Buker on the way right now, Martin Weis is

465
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Speaker 5: going to get us updated on what's trendy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Martin, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 3: Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at

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Speaker 3: seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: On a Funky Flashback Friday, we'll get to Rick Buker

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Speaker 5: and just a little bit that, Martin, to your point,

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Robbie earlier, it leaves the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: If you're the Lakers and you need a little bit

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Speaker 5: of hope. That's what you sell yourself, pH on, you

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Speaker 5: sell yourself on. Hey man, we've only had eleven game.

476
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Speaker 5: This will be our eleventh game with the Big Three.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they have enough comprised. You know, I've

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Speaker 5: said it before.

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Speaker 4: How are you going to sell that when nobody's playing defense?

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying, that's what they can sell themselves. I

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Speaker 4: don't think you could even sell yourself. We haven't seen

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Speaker 4: the best of us. We've only seen tenose three guys.

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Speaker 4: Those three guys don't play defense.

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Speaker 2: You ain't lying about that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like you could do that, Oh dude,

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Speaker 4: when they've played that's the problem. Even when they've been

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Speaker 4: out there, they've had to score a buck twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Even have a chance to win.

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Speaker 5: And that's to me what the issue with When I

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Speaker 5: look at the Lakers like they'll have buckets. Lebron has

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Speaker 5: nights where he's still incredible.

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Speaker 4: We know that lucas forty points and they and they

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Speaker 4: don't win. Luca goes crazy as well.

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Speaker 5: Uh and then Austin Reeves went healthy, has been averaging

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Speaker 5: him and Luca where the first you know, third of

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Speaker 5: the season, give or take, where the best scoring duo.

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Speaker 5: The issue is they can't get stops. The issue is

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Speaker 5: they have no athleticism and speed, and that's what keeps

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Speaker 5: hitting them in the postseason is that.

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Speaker 2: And just even a regular season teams go all right, it's.

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Speaker 5: Forty eight minutes in his game, We're gonna keep running

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Speaker 5: at you, keep running at you, keep running and I

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Speaker 5: know Lebron gonna get gassed just because he's seventy two

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Speaker 5: years old. In the NBA terms, Luca is the oldest

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Speaker 5: twenty six year old, so he's you know, and he's

506
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Speaker 5: not gonna give you the max seven on defense. So

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Speaker 5: just keep running at them. And that's that's been the

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Speaker 5: issue right there. But it'll be interesting with the Clippers

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Speaker 5: to see coming off that back to back, it'll be

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Speaker 5: second half of the back to back, when they got

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Speaker 5: a good game last night against the Nuggets. Jamal Murray,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw this. This is his

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Speaker 5: third time this season where he's had a chance to

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Speaker 5: like win or tie a game because he gets filed

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Speaker 5: on a three point shot and he keeps missing his

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Speaker 5: free throws. But he shoots eighty nine percent from the

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Speaker 5: free throw line, so He's usually more of a you think.

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Speaker 2: Of him as a coach guy or guy who makes

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Speaker 2: big shots. But he does.

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Speaker 4: But some guys when there's nobody in front of you

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Speaker 4: tight and yeah, you have to think about it, they

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Speaker 4: don't make it. Always said his success a lot of

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Speaker 4: success of the Pistons that we talked about the two

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Speaker 4: thousand and four you had two guards who controlled the

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Speaker 4: basketball and crunch time, and both of them, Chauncey and.

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Speaker 2: Rip made like eighty seven and up. Yes, like they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Like, you got to be able to have that because

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game you might not get

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Speaker 4: buckets and you get your look that era. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 4: you get fouls and you gotta be able to make those.

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Speaker 4: You can't be splitting them going oh for two. Like seriously,

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Speaker 4: I just used to marvel at it. Those guys were

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Speaker 4: sold onto it would be like eighty eight eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: Rip would be like eighty six eighty seven. Uh percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's what makes Jamal Murray weird. He's like I said,

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Speaker 4: they were showing highlights earlier. They spent three games this year,

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Speaker 4: including last night, he gets filed on threes, got three

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Speaker 4: shots to either win or tied, and he misses, and

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Speaker 4: he did it again against the Clippers. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: the Clippers been playing some good basketball too. They have

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Speaker 4: the best record, I believe since December eighth, teenth, So, uh,

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Speaker 4: they've been playing some good ball as of late. Join

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Speaker 4: now by Rick Buker, Fox Sports NBA analysts, hosts of

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Speaker 4: the On Ball podcast Rick, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Brother? How you know? What's happening?

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Speaker 10: What is happening?

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Speaker 7: Sellos?

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Speaker 2: How are we we're doing? Good man? Happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You survived

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Speaker 10: All Star weekend?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I was. Yeah, I wasn't really too much

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Speaker 5: in the streets. I was living through Rob's Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are.

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Speaker 4: The best part about it was I had a section

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Speaker 4: to myself.

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Speaker 2: In the media lounge. You know what I mean, in

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Speaker 2: the media.

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Speaker 10: Seats, Rick, what are you doing? Media doesn't go to

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Speaker 10: All Star Game? All Star Game anymore?

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Speaker 2: Rick? The hell?

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Speaker 10: Hey, unless you're unless you're selling a brand, unless you're

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Speaker 10: an influencer, you're not.

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Speaker 2: That's not your well Rick.

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Speaker 10: By the way, by the way, we all live through

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Speaker 10: Rob's Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, of course, Rob. You know that.

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Speaker 5: You know he's Rick. You know he's got Rob's got

568
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Speaker 5: a million brands, Like what do you got on today?

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Speaker 5: It's m MLB bro, because you need to know he's

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Speaker 5: got the Black Writers Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's always something with Rob, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Rick, I do want to ask you just before

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Speaker 4: we get into some other stuff. The last couple of

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Speaker 4: years in San Francisco, they had empty seats. They had

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Speaker 4: empty seats here, like you can't hide from that. Have

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Speaker 4: people just said the prices are just ridiculous and I'm not,

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Speaker 4: you know, in love with these guys and how they

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Speaker 4: play the All Star Game?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's been the case. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 10: with thicker women, Yama and the new guys, the new

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Speaker 10: young guys and the way they've come in, that we're

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Speaker 10: going to have a changing of the guard because it

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Speaker 10: really comes down to if the best players say, hey,

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Speaker 10: you know what, we're going to compete. You know, Michael

585
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Speaker 10: Jordan at one point walked in the locker room and said, Hey,

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Speaker 10: everybody's putting up one hundred K both sides, and that's

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Speaker 10: what we're playing for. And you know, one hundred K

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Speaker 10: to day isn't what a hundred.

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Speaker 2: What it was back then? Yes, that was Breig Money.

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Speaker 10: But the point was the point was, Hey, we're going

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Speaker 10: to play for something and we're going to compete, and

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Speaker 10: it you know, we hit this era after Kobe. You know,

593
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Speaker 10: Russell Westbrook had a little bit of it, but it

594
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Speaker 10: was almost like they mocked Russ for playing hard and

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Speaker 10: trying to win m v p uh. It was a

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Speaker 10: it was a too too cool for school kind of

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Speaker 10: I don't know era and uh And I think with

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Speaker 10: Victor and the Caid Cunninghams and the Jalen Durans, I'm

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Speaker 10: hoping that that we're going to get back to guys

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Speaker 10: competing because they want to compete, because what we got

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Speaker 10: to see was, you know, the unofficial hierarchy when when

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Speaker 10: guys play and they call each other out and they

603
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Speaker 10: go one on one, like that's what we all want

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Speaker 10: to see.

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Speaker 2: We want to.

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Speaker 10: See basically a pickup game among the best players in

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Speaker 10: the league. And if they don't play like the care

608
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Speaker 10: then we don't get to see that. But I look,

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Speaker 10: I was I was flying. I didn't go because I'm

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Speaker 10: not an influencer, so.

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Speaker 4: I don't go.

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Speaker 10: Un I was flying, so and I was in in

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Speaker 10: an airport and and I was like that commercial where

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Speaker 10: you know everybody's watching on the guys canter and then

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Speaker 10: they cheer when their flight was delayed. My flight was delayed,

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Speaker 10: and I couldn't have been happier because I got to

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Speaker 10: watch the rest of the All Star Game, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, Rick, Rick Bergar guest on with the ACABA

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Speaker 5: Robin Kelvin on this uh funky flashback Friday.

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Speaker 2: I want to go here.

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Speaker 5: I'm watching right now one of our TV's in here, Rick,

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Speaker 5: and I might need some glasses because it's just hurting

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Speaker 5: my eyes watching this Utah Memphis. Oh, it is atrocious

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Speaker 5: and this is this is two thaves are two teams, Rick,

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: we know tanking is happening. I mean, I'm looking at guys.

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Speaker 5: I can't name one player out there. So now they've

627
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: put out some thoughts to the NBA maybe having flattened

628
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Speaker 5: lottery odds, two year record location, consecutive top four pick limits,

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Speaker 5: all these things. Just what do you make of the

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Speaker 5: NBA jumping and saying, all right, we know y'all been taking,

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Speaker 5: but Dagan, you tell us some other teams, why'd y'all

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Speaker 5: make it so? Wave is now we got to come

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Speaker 5: out and be hard on you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I honestly, I the great question I have is

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Speaker 10: would they be doing all this? Would there be all

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Speaker 10: this concern if they if they weren't taking gambling money,

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Speaker 10: if they didn't have partners. But to me, that is

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Speaker 10: the driving force here, because look, I've been covering the

639
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 10: league for more than thirty years now. My first year

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Speaker 10: in the league, Don Nelson. Halfway through the season they

641
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Speaker 10: had a bunch of injuries and he decided, you know

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Speaker 10: what I need, I'm going to try to get my

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Speaker 10: big man. And his big man was Sean Bradley. That's

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Speaker 10: who we wanted, so he started. This is my first

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Speaker 10: year on the beat. Tim Hardaway has twenty seven points

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Speaker 10: through the three quarters and they're beating the Los Angeles

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Speaker 10: Clippers in LA and he sits Tim Hardaway for the

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Speaker 10: entire fourth quarter, and I'm like, and at that time, like,

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Speaker 10: you couldn't even say the word tanky like it was

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Speaker 10: it was just illegal to say thanking. It was also

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Speaker 10: illegal to suggest that there was any gambling connected to

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Speaker 10: the NBA. So that's how much we've changed. But when

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Speaker 10: we asked Nelly what had happened, he said, you know,

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Speaker 10: Tim's knee was acting up, and so so we go

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Speaker 10: in and talked to Tim we Go, so you know,

656
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 10: what's up with your knee, and he didn't know which

657
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 10: knee it was bothering you. Point being tanking has gone

658
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 10: on forever and in obvious ways, but we have more

659
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Speaker 10: attention on every game, and we have gambling involved in

660
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Speaker 10: the games now, and so this is really protecting in

661
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 10: my mind, this is the NBA protecting their business relationships

662
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 10: as opposed to being concerned about the and I'm using

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Speaker 10: air quotes here, the integrity of the game, because gambling

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Speaker 10: has been going on since I covered the league, and

665
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 10: the league has grown and developed just fine. The reality

666
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 10: is you have smaller markets like Utah, like Charlotte, like Memphis.

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Speaker 10: If they make a financial mistake or if they simply

668
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 10: they can't get superstar free agents that they're looking for

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Speaker 10: their next cornerstone star, the only way they're going to

670
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Speaker 10: get one is through the draft. So I'm with Mark Cuban,

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Speaker 10: I really don't have a problem with it. Just don't

672
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Speaker 10: lie to me, just like, yeah, you know what, we

673
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 10: are tanking, don't bet on our games, don't don't buy tickets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. I'm glad if you said.

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Speaker 4: Didn't say that, because that's where I have the pushback.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's right for people to spend their

677
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Speaker 4: money and you're not.

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Speaker 2: If you're not going to try, and you're going to

679
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Speaker 2: say you don't, then you.

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Speaker 4: Should play in front of empty seats and tell people

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Speaker 4: to come back in five years. I'm dead serious. That's

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Speaker 4: the part I will never accept because people are paying

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Speaker 4: their harder money. It's a fraud.

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Speaker 2: It's a fraud.

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Speaker 10: And I would say, you know, when a team takes

686
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Speaker 10: that makes that decision, when they make a concerted uh

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Speaker 10: decision that they are going to tank and they're going

688
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Speaker 10: to try to lose games, then I think there should

689
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Speaker 10: be some compensation for the fans to say, hey, you

690
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Speaker 10: know what if you want to discount on a on

691
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Speaker 10: a ticket next year when when we're ready to go UH,

692
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Speaker 10: we will happily give that to you. We will we

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Speaker 10: will give some sort of benefit to you because the

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Speaker 10: reality is it's more valuable for us, but it's more

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Speaker 10: valuable for uh Utah to go get a aj debansa

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Speaker 10: the kid coming up in their backyard and adding him

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00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 10: to the equation than than any than than any other

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Speaker 10: cost it could be, including a five hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Five money will never do it right. But it's just

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Speaker 4: the fans that I look out for. I just feel

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Speaker 4: so bad, Rick, because people go to these games, pay five,

702
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Speaker 4: six hundred dollars for.

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Speaker 2: Tickets the only one they see players. It might be

704
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Speaker 2: a Christmas gift or something, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And and then and then guys aren't playing, and all

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Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. It is really bad.

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Speaker 4: And I think sometimes we lose sight of that because

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Speaker 4: we get in for free and we're not paying six

709
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Speaker 4: hundred dollars and it's their little boy's birthday and this

710
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Speaker 4: is all he wanted.

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Speaker 2: It's painful. I see guys complaining all the time.

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Speaker 10: But consider this, like, where was Why wasn't any up

713
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 10: in arms when the load management stuff happened. Wasn't that impacting?

714
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 10: Wasn't that impacting wins and losses? Wasn't that impacting? I

715
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 10: don't know the odds of teams winning. Wasn't that impacting

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Speaker 10: the value of that ticket to a fan? And I

717
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 10: wasn't hearing the same outcry until now it has become

718
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 10: clear that you know, there's a couple of teams that

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Speaker 10: are they're angling for and let's keep in mind this

720
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Speaker 10: particular draft, this draft has sold like this is this

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Speaker 10: from talking to all my people, like, this is a

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Speaker 10: generational draft. And if you look at the two teams

723
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Speaker 10: that that that got fined, the part that makes me

724
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 10: laugh is they loaded up at the trade deadline. They

725
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 10: went and got better. So what they're basically saying is

726
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 10: we're primed. We want to get one of the great

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Speaker 10: players out of this draft, and then we're ready to

728
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Speaker 10: go next year. So this is a this is to

729
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 10: me a surgical strike and a one year This is

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Speaker 10: a special draft. We're going after it. Utah got better

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Speaker 10: adding Jaron Jackson and basically took a lot of their

732
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Speaker 10: future draft assets in order to get Jaron Jackson. So

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00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 10: this is clearly like this is a one year deal.

734
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Speaker 10: They're planning to go after it next year. And Indiana

735
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 10: did the same thing, went out and improved. So I

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Speaker 10: just look, it's maybe I'm a little bit I don't

737
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 10: know if it's jaded or I've just seen it long

738
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 10: enough that it's gone on. And I have a harder

739
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 10: time when teams are lying to the media and lying

740
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 10: to fans to pretending they're not tanking when it's obvious

741
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 10: that they're doing doing it. I'd rather have them just

742
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 10: be out front and say, you know what, let's let's

743
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 10: find other ways to improve the fan experience for now,

744
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 10: or we'll give you a discount going forward, because this

745
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 10: is going to make us a better team. And don't

746
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 10: you want a team that's capable of winning markets?

747
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Speaker 2: And right, here's the last word on it.

748
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Speaker 4: They could just change the pricing and it should be

749
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: pay as you exit so you can determine our top game. Hey,

750
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: that was three dollars worth the game, right, Hey, as

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Speaker 4: you exit?

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 10: This is why, this is why people follow your instagram.

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Hey, I tell you what.

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 5: They might get money when they leave Rob watching his

756
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: Utah Memphis game. They might give them some money. Rick,

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Speaker 5: Thank you, man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You got it, guys, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: All right, Rob, you're saying it in a Disney story anymore.

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Speaker 5: minor eights and pains. Thankfully we're done with the rain

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Speaker 5: out here in southern California. Back to the little sunshine

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Speaker 5: enjoying that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dallas rains.

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Speaker 4: No, I got you. I gotta hit you with the

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Speaker 4: little yes, the little fist thing too in the tan

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Speaker 4: you got a real chan is a little too light

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Speaker 4: for this to stop stop right now? Okay the hair stop,

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Speaker 4: f rob Your mic is on. Oh I'm sorry, Mica

786
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Speaker 4: is you know I see all these people at the Amy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm hosting the Emmys again this year. Again.

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Speaker 2: They gave me anybody. Yeah, I'm just saying to go back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Roer yeah go dub yeah yeah, ye appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 4: I thought after having to pronounce all those Spanish names

792
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: that you would That was when I was a presenter.

793
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: They were like, I opened the envelope, boy, Alex, I

794
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: was up there fighting for my life.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. If they could have asked me,

796
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, come on, I literally there. I

797
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: got no shot at pronouncing.

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Speaker 4: All these ethnic are we talking? This was it that

799
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Speaker 4: went up there and they were like, he's a brother,

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Speaker 4: he can get it. Cool No TCS, Telemundo, scros at Sinco.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, y'all want to come on up here.

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Speaker 4: Caesar her coming up there, you know, like eight names

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Speaker 4: and you're like, oh my god, I can't.

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Speaker 5: News news alcho at eight goes to outsids out there

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Speaker 5: and fight for my life.

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Speaker 2: No way I watch this. What year was that? But

807
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: at least that was like four years ago to watch it.

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00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: At least you know, like this is a big Hispanic community.

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Speaker 2: And they swept all the awards.

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Speaker 4: They won all do They won Best Newscast, Warning, Midday

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Speaker 4: and Evening.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious and good for them. Bunny's number one. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if other people knew that. They got

814
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: issues with that. That's fine.

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Speaker 5: Somebody cracked a great joke, Josh Johnson. I don't know

816
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Speaker 5: if he's like merging.

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00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: He said, so y'all want me to think then I

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: don't like to read, actually want the subtitles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, y'all aren't gonna read. Dude, he had hilarious. That's funny.

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Speaker 2: He's freaking hilarious with that.

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Speaker 5: But uh, anyway, all right, we were gonna talk about

822
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Speaker 5: something else, but we ain't gonna get to that Secondanny

823
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: because you had some some little shook you're.

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Speaker 2: You're I'm okay, tell me Rob, what's gonna bring it up?

825
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: But you do look a little sicken though. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to spoil the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep it to myself.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Rob g already knows.

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Speaker 2: Let me and him have an issue. Hash this out.

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Speaker 4: It'll be hashed out at some point at six o'clock, no.

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Speaker 2: Nine o'clock on the east. No, And what are the

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Speaker 2: Robs beefing about? Realize I haven't talked fright out.

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Speaker 8: Next