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Speaker 1: My next guests are Group. There are three guys. They're

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Speaker 1: six years traveling around the country as a team chasing ghosts.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying, ghosts Together. Now, the Ghost

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Speaker 1: Brothers are coming together to bring you the first paranormal

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Speaker 1: podcast from Discovery Plus called Urban Legends with the Ghost Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Daylyn started this whole paranormal adventure after he had dreamed

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Speaker 1: they would talk about the craziest myth and legends with

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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations. The host of Urban Legends

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Speaker 1: with the Ghost Brothers podcast Thinglas Spratt, Joan miss and

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Speaker 1: Marcus Harvey. How you doing, fellas man less? You know,

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Speaker 1: rarely do I mess up an intro like that, man,

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Speaker 1: especially off air when Marcus told me he does stand

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Speaker 1: very easy to google. Okay, just daylad just pushed back

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Speaker 1: exactly the like the whole heartedly true. Anytime there's horror involved,

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Speaker 1: it's that small element of realism that drives people over

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Speaker 1: the edge. And I think that's when a lot of

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Speaker 1: like horror and scary paranormal stuff missed these days. That's

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Speaker 1: the difference from like your old movies like Candy Man,

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Speaker 1: or It's or like You and Me, all those great

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Speaker 1: Jason's and there was always that small level of like

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Speaker 1: realism or like or could it be couldn't this actually

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Speaker 1: happen that actually pushes people over the edge. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we still live in that same level of curiosity,

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Speaker 1: and that's what works. I'll be a changeing man. Fears,

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Speaker 1: fear and darkness is like you don't want them to

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Speaker 1: enter the room. At the same time, you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to look under your bed, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because somebody might look up at you, look

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Speaker 1: at you with eyeball. You want to look out of

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Speaker 1: your bench, try looking back at you. You know you

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Speaker 1: don't want to look in the car to your bedroom

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Speaker 1: and it's just dark, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: you don't have no blanket you have. The blanket is

443
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Speaker 1: like the ultimate protector when you're afraid. You know itally

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Speaker 1: proven on Mars. Talk to us about that man, because

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Speaker 1: I know m T did a study on blanket protection

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Speaker 1: um duringing paranormal. It's a whole study. You guys gotta

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Speaker 1: go see it. Go google it's hey. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: rule though, because the rule, the rule, what that is,

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Speaker 1: as long as all of your body is covered, like no,

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Speaker 1: you can't have any limbs exposed, no, told, But you

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Speaker 1: can have your head. Don't you want to write your

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Speaker 1: head right? No? No, no, everything that's to that's like

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Speaker 1: next level because you gotta be able to move swiftly,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can your head exposed

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Speaker 1: to see something, but you gotta pull it back over

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Speaker 1: your head if you don't want to get I can

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I didn't. I can tell you

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Speaker 1: I didn't read the study because the study said if

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Speaker 1: you expose your head, yeah, and that's what it literally

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Speaker 1: said that on the second paget. That's what that's what

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Speaker 1: they problem is the only first page readings. Y'all cliffs

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Speaker 1: to pot this. You knew what I read that you

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Speaker 1: want to read, that you want to read, you want detail. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see he lying Now he's gonna government trying to shut

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Speaker 1: me down. Knowledge, he trying to put me off conation.

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Speaker 1: I'm back with you, baby. I love it. You know

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Speaker 1: I would tell y'all something about me, man, is that

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Speaker 1: I love scary movies. I love them, but you know

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Speaker 1: I am a scaredy cat. Okay, when a good scary

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Speaker 1: movie come on, I will leave the lights one in

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Speaker 1: the house. I'm not gonna lie to you. When a

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Speaker 1: good scary movie hit me, right, I will sleep with

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Speaker 1: that blanket covered. Now I do expose the head now,

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Speaker 1: but everything that is I will not leave you were

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Speaker 1: there like you over there, like waffle house swelling covered.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. See see See that's why y'all

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Speaker 1: come on the show, because I'll be honest about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid. See what y'all do attracts me because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that I I want to say I don't believe,

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Speaker 1: but I do believe. That's what that ten episode podcast.

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Speaker 1: I think it's brilliant because you're gonna allow people to

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Speaker 1: dive into each one of their fears, and then they're

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Speaker 1: gonna learn some more fears that they didn't even know about.

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Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, there's another series of ten y'all,

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Speaker 1: just cante man. You ain't gonna stop. We ain't gonna stop.

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Speaker 1: You can't stop, can't stop, won't stop. Take that. Get down?

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Speaker 1: We get down good. So so, so what's next for

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Speaker 1: the Ghost Brothers? You know, I know each one of

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Speaker 1: you guys, you do this project together, but I know

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Speaker 1: you've got individual projects. Start with what you want, what

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Speaker 1: you got working on the table. Brother. I got a

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Speaker 1: restaurant in Miami. Um yeah, yeah, it's on South Beach

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Speaker 1: thirteenth in Washington. We opened the year of So now

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Speaker 1: we're just kind of getting back rolling because we were right.

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Speaker 1: We were kind of hard. But now I'll be out

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Speaker 1: be in my mean January eighteen through the twenty for

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Speaker 1: the NAPTI, so I make at a point of reach

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Speaker 1: out and touch you just so I can drop by.

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Speaker 1: I'll be down there for three days for National National

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Speaker 1: Association Program Television Executive. I'll be down there for three days.

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Speaker 1: So your restaurant, what's your name of it? It's called

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Speaker 1: Heroes stripping Chicken. Uh, it's a fast, casual donning experience. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you never heard of Herolds of staying from Chicago,

504
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Speaker 1: as I live in Chicago five years, I know about

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Speaker 1: Harold Chicken. You can stop, man, I'm a foodie dude.

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Speaker 1: Not now, Dayla, what's happened in your world? I know,

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Speaker 1: Dayla got my full five project. He can't stay, he

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Speaker 1: can't he can't sit this but down for nothing now? So, uh,

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Speaker 1: what's actually really dope? The Ghost Brothers are launching something

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Speaker 1: in the next two to three weeks. So people always

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Speaker 1: ask us, like, what is it like traveling on the

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Speaker 1: road when we're filming our show? Can we tell people

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of late nights and a lot of

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Speaker 1: early mornings. And in doing so, man, anytime we get

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Speaker 1: out from these investigations, we always go get something to eat. Right.

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Speaker 1: We've literally had breakfasted all over this country and like so,

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Speaker 1: we've had waffles and pancakes everywhere. So we thought it

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Speaker 1: would be only befitting if we dropped our own gourmet

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Speaker 1: waffle and pancake mix. So we have the Bros Gourmet,

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Speaker 1: which is actually lunch. In about three weeks with our

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Speaker 1: first waffle and pancake mixes, pumpkin spice for the holidays.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, right after that, we come to you with

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Speaker 1: red velvet and uh yeah, okay, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I got a show called Rushange Kitchen. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: all the other part of my life is that I'm

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Speaker 1: award winning baker. So give me some of that and

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Speaker 1: I would put it on my social media every Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and Friday, I post, I post some recipes. You can

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Speaker 1: look at my recipe right there. I did, uh land

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Speaker 1: the legs. They sent me free butter so I can

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Speaker 1: make their biscuits all that stuff. I can free stuff

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Speaker 1: all the time for my did that perfect? I'm seriously like,

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Speaker 1: I just did some all some Punkin donuts that I

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Speaker 1: did and I posted. It's like it's like a hidden

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Speaker 1: flavor because a lot of black people here. Punking. There's

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Speaker 1: folks Parking man is outstanding, dude, because they're so used

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Speaker 1: to sweet potato pies, you know, but Punkin that's a

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Speaker 1: great pancake. Parking Pancakes outstanding. Now. I always closed the

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Speaker 1: show with the headline here, Marcus, what's happening. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: The headline? Hey man, listen I want when you cook

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Speaker 1: them pancakes, I want to be there because I want

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Speaker 1: to get one of them plumpy pick. Because you talked

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Speaker 1: about the listen, we got a lot going on. Rosecore

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Speaker 1: May is gonna be amazing. Um, you guys can go

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Speaker 1: follow my art gallery, the Mussilayer. It's in Atlanta, Georgia

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Speaker 1: in keen Plow Art District. Uh that's th ch E Mussilayer.

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Speaker 1: We have a barbershop full of like amazing groomers, massage therapists.

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Speaker 1: We have a therapist, mental therapist on deck to my brother,

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Speaker 1: he's a license therapist who's worked for Regview for many years.

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Speaker 1: He's also he took his talents over to us. Uh. So, man,

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Speaker 1: we're just really trying to do some great things to

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Speaker 1: the community. We're gonna be do some giveaways or some

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Speaker 1: haircuts for the holidays and so yeah, man, just tap in, man,

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Speaker 1: and just keep keep keep posting, keep praying for the

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Speaker 1: ghost bros. Man, we were out here trying to do

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Speaker 1: great things for the community. We're trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: raise our beautiful kids. You know, Juwan, you're on the

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Speaker 1: clock dot because they only got that baby gorgeous and no,

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Speaker 1: we don't let them put that tresh pressure on you.

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Speaker 1: Don't do like that, bro, No, no, non't take your time.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about when you do it, it better

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Speaker 1: be a pretty baby, because that's that's that's all we

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Speaker 1: as looking. Man. Let's he really goes ugly. It's gonna

564
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Speaker 1: be hard now to have a little good looking time

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Speaker 1: come out of draw not you don't know what love?

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Speaker 1: That's what you want to think? Do we bring you

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Speaker 1: no ugly babies to the ghost Brothers family'll sound like

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Speaker 1: some bats. You know you me brother, you look like

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Speaker 1: a good looking guy. Oh, y'all good looking guy, right,

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna slap some ug me on your baby

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Speaker 1: and the baby had need to here, yallaby, I don't

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Speaker 1: you something, ghost brother ugliness are really something else? And

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Speaker 1: come on, I refused to let the two of y'all

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Speaker 1: hat on my boy and curse curse on this checkout

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Speaker 1: would be like you wouldn't want nobody to speak no

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Speaker 1: ugliness on the child that you hadn't had yet. No, no,

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Speaker 1: we misinterpreted. I'm just saying there's pressure. If there is

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Speaker 1: an ugly baby, the ugly baby won't be as close

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Speaker 1: to the pretty babies. I'm just saying, if y'all have

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Speaker 1: a mother, you better pray it's not ugly. They are

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Speaker 1: the Ghost Brothers, Daily Jawan and Marcus. They were hosting

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Speaker 1: a Discovery plus ten episodes only. You may have missed

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Speaker 1: one already, but you can catch it all streaming Urban

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Speaker 1: Legends with the Ghost Brothers. They have two of my

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Speaker 1: most popular, three of my most popular guests. Every time

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Speaker 1: they come on show, I might have to bring you

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Speaker 1: all in my live show. I do Old Clark and

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Speaker 1: lattin Campus every Tuesday from six to seven. I got

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Speaker 1: bringing it. So do you want I owe your visit

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Speaker 1: to your restaurant in Miami? You owe me some some

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Speaker 1: pucking pancake flour, okay, And I gotta come by your

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Speaker 1: barbershop to get that artwork. So I owe y'all three

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Speaker 1: things and get that stuff to me, and I'll do

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Speaker 1: what I do. Man. I love all three of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. Ghost Brothers. Appreciate appreciate that. We will be

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Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations. Minute

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Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald's Hi, I am Rashan McDonald

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald. My next guest

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Speaker 1: is Reggie rock Bitewood. He writes, directs, and serve as

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Speaker 1: by a new episode weekly every Friday day after on

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Speaker 1: Apple Plus. Please work in the money making conversation. For

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Speaker 1: a long time, I've been wanting to talk to this

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Speaker 1: brother again. Reggie rock Bythewood, How are you doing, my friend,

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Speaker 1: I'm really really great. Thank you thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, man um, you know I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of Apple Plus, so I watched Ted Lasso ap

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Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus Brother, Apple TV Plus, Apple TV Plus.

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Speaker 1: I apologize Apple TV Plus. Let me get this straight

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Speaker 1: TV Plus because you know when when you pay your

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Speaker 1: money and I just see the Apple Plus. But Apple

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Speaker 1: TV Plus okay? And um, this series? What brought it about?

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Speaker 1: And uh? And what inspired you to do this series?

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Speaker 1: I know Kevin Durant involved, which give us a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of credibility to the background and the relations of

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Speaker 1: the the authenticity for the series. But how did you

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Speaker 1: get involved? Ritchie Um? So I got a call from

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Speaker 1: um Imagine Entertainment, which is a company that that that

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Speaker 1: Brian runs with Ron Howard a producing their name. Francy

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Speaker 1: Calfol called me up and and and let me know

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Speaker 1: that Brian and k D had a meeting and they

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Speaker 1: talked about doing a series focus on or inspired by

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Speaker 1: his youth basketball days. So they called me asked me

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Speaker 1: to meet with him. I flew out At that time

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Speaker 1: k D was in was in um it was in

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Speaker 1: Golden State, you know. So I flew out to Oakland

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Speaker 1: and met with him, and you know, I didn't really

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Speaker 1: know what to what to to think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like the guy? Would I not? But it was

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Speaker 1: a really kind of inspiring conversation and and he was

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Speaker 1: just very open and shared um a lot of his

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Speaker 1: experiences with me, and I really just started to see

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Speaker 1: this canvas, if you will, that would allow me to

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Speaker 1: um take elements of his life and bringing other elements, um,

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Speaker 1: some elements from my life, from my kids and sort

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Speaker 1: of things we pulled into research and just just tell

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Speaker 1: a story that we felt could be really meaningful, um,

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Speaker 1: A story about not just basketball, but growing up in

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Speaker 1: America or teen life in America, which is a brilliant

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Speaker 1: portory by the actors that you brought into this, which

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Speaker 1: really which were in the music that plays a major

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Speaker 1: role in what you're doing here. Now let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the young star Isaiah Isaiah, he'll correctly plays James Carson. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to sit down with Kevin Durant and

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Speaker 1: he has a this young man. You seem to have

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Speaker 1: captured Kevin Durant's personality or temperament in this character. Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong in saying that? But it really did kind

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Speaker 1: of resonate to the personality of life sotock because Kevin

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Speaker 1: was raised by a single mom in a basketball cynthric

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Speaker 1: world is set in Washington, d C. What Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: is from talk about that. Yeah. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 1: think there were a couple of things, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was really looking for. And I mean this is such

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Speaker 1: a complicated character. You know. Number one, the dude's gotta

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Speaker 1: be athletic, and so we you know, we have this

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Speaker 1: huge casting search and this kid comes in who's not

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Speaker 1: just like Donking, like just tipping it in. He's like

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Speaker 1: throwing it back and you know, slamming it. Um. But

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Speaker 1: then the other thing too was you know, he was

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Speaker 1: talented and and so we um really it was just

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Speaker 1: like blown away to be able to find someone who

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Speaker 1: has acting chops and basketball chops all in wine. It

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Speaker 1: was was was a gift. And I think that you know, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, k D felt challenged to prove that he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, like this this top player that he that

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Speaker 1: that that he was, and you know, all great athletes,

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Speaker 1: you know, feel like they have something to prove, you know.

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Speaker 1: The real life Isaiah felt that as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's played basketball, he understands those challenges, He's

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Speaker 1: had his bumps, and so he I think he was

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Speaker 1: just able to bring that forward and and when he

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Speaker 1: played out you know lovely on screen, we're talked to

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Speaker 1: an incredible writer, producers, show running of the new series

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Speaker 1: on Apple TV plus Swagger. Uh, Reggie Rocket Bythewood. The

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Speaker 1: series is an incredible force as far as teen drama, training, romance, Uh,

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Speaker 1: coming of age. Uh. This young man we're talking about Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: his character plays and he plays the character James Carson,

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Speaker 1: the fourteen year old megastar. I could relate this a

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Speaker 1: little bit of my personal life because my nephew, he

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Speaker 1: had a couple of songs, and I remember he was

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Speaker 1: we were tracking him at eighth grade, ninth grade. You know,

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Speaker 1: his son was the top point guard in Texas, you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's so the other song was a top small forward.

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Speaker 1: So I know the reality of this, But that what

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Speaker 1: I loved about it was how Reggie how is how

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Speaker 1: are you incorporating how the world of social media something

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Speaker 1: that the real Kevin Durant really didn't have to deal

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Speaker 1: with that this kid has to deal with on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, incorporating that real lifestyle activity, how you can

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Speaker 1: be how your life is changed by a poast? Correct? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean social media became his other director in our narrative,

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Speaker 1: and and so I mean it's just authentic to the

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Speaker 1: way um, people in this age group relate to each other.

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Speaker 1: You know, yes, you know, and and as we know,

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Speaker 1: they are great positives with it and great negatives with it.

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Speaker 1: And and as you as you mentioned, like, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a drama that does focus a lot on teens,

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Speaker 1: but it's also like really really aspiring to give a

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Speaker 1: view from every seat in the house, you know, so

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Speaker 1: that we deal with fatherhood, we deal with coaching, we

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Speaker 1: deal with parent hood, and so I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're a mom, if you're a coach,

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Speaker 1: if you're a dad, um, if you're a child, like,

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Speaker 1: there's something that's going to pull it you emotionally. We'll

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Speaker 1: read here. First of all, I don't want to sell

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Speaker 1: you serious short because I'm we gonna we got mill

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Speaker 1: tankcause I'm gonna go to o'shean, I'm gonna talk to Gina,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to these characters breakdowns to have so

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Speaker 1: much layers. But those kids what brought me in. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell how really was I I get

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Speaker 1: up every day at four thirty am. All right, I

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Speaker 1: saw five straight episodes because each episode kept me, kept

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Speaker 1: me kept five My wife looked at me, said Rishan's

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Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning. I said, okay, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. Let

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Speaker 1: go to bed, because soon as I wrap up this interview,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna screen the rest of them. I noticed she

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Speaker 1: was premieres October twenty nine. It will premiere with three

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Speaker 1: episodes in a row, and when you get to that

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Speaker 1: third episode, you will be hooked in this series. Please

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Speaker 1: take the time to watch consecutively series and after that

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Speaker 1: it will air every Friday. What Reggie has put together

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Speaker 1: is um is uh you. Gina who plays the mom

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Speaker 1: Jason's mom, Joanna who plays Jason's mom, very dominant character,

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Speaker 1: very uh opinionated. She knows what she wants, she knows

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Speaker 1: what she sees in the sun. Her expectations maybe over reaching,

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: and her advice and to how he should play shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be something he should be following. But that's what the

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Speaker 1: comment of age part of the writing is all about,

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Speaker 1: correct Reggie, Yeah, I mean, you know, and here's a

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Speaker 1: crazy thing, right, Like it's like when you have a

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Speaker 1: kid that talented. Yes, there's still a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: questions in terms of like, you know, where he or

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Speaker 1: she is gonna go, and it really becomes like this

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Speaker 1: coming of age for but the kid for the parents,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just it's it's so complicated, it's so challenging

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Speaker 1: to you know, you you sort of wish we all

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Speaker 1: had a crystal ball and knew where their kid was

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Speaker 1: was gonna go. But you know, on a whole other level, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, a lot of times we pushed our kids. Yes,

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Speaker 1: sometimes we have to. And you know, if we do

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Speaker 1: it wrong, it's a negative, and if we do it right,

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Speaker 1: it's a positive. Right. I know, my daughter was a

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Speaker 1: tennis prodigy, you know, my my wife she was. She

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Speaker 1: was really a lot more aggressive than I was, which

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Speaker 1: is our role. We all play roles as parents, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I always felt my daughter was talented at it

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Speaker 1: what she did, but that wasn't what she wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: Now she's in the typewando and and I told my wife,

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Speaker 1: don't be disappointed if that's not what she wants to do,

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Speaker 1: that's not her end game. You know, she blew out

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Speaker 1: her knee when she was nateen and she asked me

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Speaker 1: that she wanted to go to college, because you go

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Speaker 1: to college, and yes, whoever your dreams are. And that's

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Speaker 1: what this young man is learning and his and his

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Speaker 1: best friend, who we see the relationship going. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Crystal, and that's another storyline I'm not gonna get

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Speaker 1: into any detail on because it should be seen and

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Speaker 1: you should see the development of her character in the series.

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Speaker 1: But also it's it's it's kind of a romance, but

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Speaker 1: their friends their friends, they're die hard friends. And what

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Speaker 1: you learned in this series, Reggie, if I could be

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Speaker 1: so bold to say this, is that you learn to listen.

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Speaker 1: You learn to listen with people are trying to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. That was a big part of this whole

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Speaker 1: first five episodes that I heard screaming at me people

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Speaker 1: when they talk, take the time to hear and not talk,

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Speaker 1: and so much talk about your problems. But other people

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Speaker 1: have problems too, and you should learn to hear their problems,

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Speaker 1: especially when they're coming to you to talk. That was

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Speaker 1: strong language in this in this series so far. Well,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it feels like that's a lost art

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Speaker 1: in this country right now. Right Like listening, you know,

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Speaker 1: like like like really listening, like really trying to understand

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Speaker 1: where somebody else is coming from. You know, but I

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Speaker 1: see other great thing about having a platform like this

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Speaker 1: to be able to give insight, to to bring people

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Speaker 1: into you know, various characters and and see and you

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Speaker 1: know um so much. You know that the show's called swagger,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and so you know, obviously on the

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Speaker 1: surface that's like barbato and confidence, but really underneath all

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Speaker 1: of that swaggers would having a cause bigger than yourself, right,

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Speaker 1: And so whether you your causes, your people, your family,

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Speaker 1: your team, having that cause bigger than yourself, um, really

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Speaker 1: gives you that sense of purpose, that that grid, that

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Speaker 1: determination to move closer to your your dreams and your calling.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why, you know, you know, in

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Speaker 1: Jason's journey, you know, Jason's journey initially is himself, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, and as we go through the narrative, it

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Speaker 1: expands as he expands. We know an interesting thing about

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Speaker 1: it because now I'm going to go to Oce Jackson's character.

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Speaker 1: You know, he plays icon, a character who didn't reach

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Speaker 1: who had great basketball potential but didn't reach the potential.

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Speaker 1: And when you staid reach the potential, the NBA is

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Speaker 1: the goal. The NBA is the ultimate goal of anybody

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Speaker 1: who puts on those sneakers and gets on that hard

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Speaker 1: court and try to imagine they're the next Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: or the next Scareem Abdul Jabbard, or next Lebron James

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Speaker 1: today or next KD. Because KD six and eleven and

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Speaker 1: seven feet tall and dribbled like a six point six

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Speaker 1: ft point guard and shoots like Steph Kurr on the

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Speaker 1: even any given day, but dunk like Lebron. So that's

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Speaker 1: to be to have a show about that, there had

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Speaker 1: to be some additional pressure Reggie, knowing that you this

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Speaker 1: is when the regular superstar. There wasn't a guy who

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Speaker 1: who's a marginal player or just a good player. K

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Speaker 1: D can probably go down in history is one of

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Speaker 1: the all top five all time players. Here, you ain't

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Speaker 1: having a room and to create a scripted series that

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Speaker 1: has to retain a level of credibility, and you do,

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Speaker 1: my friend, because we're gonna get into these action shots.

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Speaker 1: Because I was like blown away by these these I'll

843
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: tell you how something when you when you watch TV,

844
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: watch Reggie do his work, his his his magic, and

845
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: you see a shot that don't have jump cuts in him,

846
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: and I'm going, okay, that's a real shot from the corner.

847
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: When Nick Mindez hits his first three pointer at the

848
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: top of the I go, that's a real shots. That's it.

849
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I said, I said, Reggie, Reggie,

850
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: my boy has said, man, how how how you pulling

851
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: that off? Bro? How many? First of all, you know,

852
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: first of all, though you started talking about the pressure,

853
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: we just say so creatively, what I wanted to do

854
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: was have the basketball feel real. So it actually alleviated

855
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: pressure as the network and everybody, yeah, we gotta be like,

856
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's gotta be real, it's gonna be kevin.

857
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: So so we cast actors someone who had really played

858
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: ball before. But we were able to, like, like you know,

859
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: it's so rare to be able to cast somebody and

860
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: give them like three months of training, like multiple days

861
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: throughout the week, hours and hours upon a day to

862
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: learn how to become a baller. And then we had

863
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: our ballers who then had a lot of time to

864
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: work with acting coaches. So just that alone, UM, it

865
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: alleviated pressure because it allowed me to then have like

866
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: a real process where everybody knew the basketball needed to

867
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: me in a high level. UM. And you know, look

868
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: there was choreography and training sessions, but I mean they

869
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: just came and they and it was like, I mean,

870
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, it was a luxury, like like the kids

871
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, you know, like they were like, yo,

872
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm in some of it. Some of it, you know,

873
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: it was from them, a choreographer and a trainer, but

874
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: some of it was them like, let's let me tell

875
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: you what I can do, and all we have to

876
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: do is photographic. We'll be right back with more mind

877
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Speaker 1: making conversation with the creator, writer, and executive producer of

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907
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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Welcome back to money Making conversations. As I

908
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: continue my conversation with the creator, writer, and executive producer

909
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: of the new Apple TV Plus series Swagger, Reggie Rock Bitewood.

910
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: How tall as uh as Asaiah Hello plays James Carson.

911
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: I think he's like because he could leap man. Yeah, yeah,

912
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: I think he's six three six four six three or

913
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: six three. That young man. He has some elevation now.

914
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: He and his acting skills are on point. He has

915
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: a career in this business. Good looking kid. Oh Shan

916
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Jackson icon Yeah, um, all the you know, Oh had

917
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: multiple scenes where we were dunking, but he didn't make

918
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: the cut. Well well, I know he didn't make up,

919
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: but he could shoot. Let let's talk about his shooting though,

920
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: because I was impressed. I was impressed. Hey, let me

921
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: tell you something. In that game and a pilot where

922
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: they're going one on each then wasn't supposed to make

923
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: people shown off. I just kept the cameras and I

924
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, let him go. You're lying, dude, because I'm

925
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: looking at saying what I said. Because I had these

926
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: little checkpoints. I said, rim height, you see it's ten

927
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: feet not nine. You said he made all the ships

928
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: to tell I mean because there's a lot of basket

929
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Come on, there's a lot of basketball shows where you

930
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: see somebody dunking and you know that's something eight foot

931
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: nine ft. So that was really important for the We

932
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that, you know, we really wanted

933
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: it to look and and some people would get vibe

934
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: and there's people like you that you can smell it

935
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: if it's not real. First of all, that's what it

936
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: pressed me the most. I'm gonna tell you something. I

937
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: loved my sleep when I get it. I don't like

938
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: getting up at four thirty. So you know, Reggie, I

939
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: love you. Don't Reid, I would love you that much.

940
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: But when it's series, I'm looking at it because my

941
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: wife was sitting right next to me. Excuse in factually

942
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: she was cooking in the kitchen when we started, and

943
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: next thing, by episode two, she was sitting right next

944
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: to me, engaged in the series. Like I said, it's

945
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: a series that, uh, they're a boy basketball so many

946
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: layers about life, about parenting, about how you know she

947
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: could relate to because our daughter, you know, it was

948
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: a prodigy, like like Jase, like like the character being

949
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: played out here, being pulled in so many directions going

950
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: to private camps, were recruited, and so it was very

951
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: relatable to what we deal with today because that's all

952
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: you see nowadays and now with name likeness and imagery

953
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: that that you can pay for and kids can get

954
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: the money they used to hide to get nowadays. But

955
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: the whole layers are putting all these characters together. That

956
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: was a lot of work. How did you really start

957
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: projecting each role? The nes, the sheol say, the the

958
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: bad guys, the good guys, the the layers. A lot

959
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: of hard work wind into this, Reggie, how did you

960
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: pull it off? I mean, you know, I mean again

961
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: having this mandate of you know this, this self imposed

962
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: mandate of having a view from every seat in the house. Um,

963
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of research, spoke with a lot of people,

964
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: and really, you know, much of my work and the

965
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: writing process also starts with like really putting together a

966
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: really great writer's room, you know, so um, you know,

967
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: in particular, one of my writers, guy named George Dorman,

968
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: wrote this book, really good book called um they Play

969
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: their Hearts Out and it follows a youth basketball team. Um.

970
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: It was very important for me to have some incredible

971
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: black women in my writer's room. Um and and directing

972
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: as well, right and directing as well, and and and

973
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: directing as well Nigel and mean you haven't seen her,

974
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: so when you go back, you're gonna see h Nigel

975
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: is the one that Nigel is directed, which is one

976
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: oh six, you know. And and so you know, when

977
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: you have a room like that, it's really gray inspiring

978
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: because we're challenging each other, we're challenging other people's points

979
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: of view, we're bringing in our real life experiences. And

980
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: in a room like that, like I never say, like,

981
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't create a room like that because

982
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: it's politically correct. You create a room like that because

983
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: it gives you the best product. Wow, I just want

984
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to say this about the show. The credibility of the

985
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: show is amazing. The Meg's role, who plays his business partner,

986
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: O'shan's business, cavil hood, his icon uh David, his role

987
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: as the NBA star who made it, who Who's Who's

988
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: Who's has an issue with icon, All these layers, like

989
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier, and that's what I wanna say.

990
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: I just wanted to start with the kids because that's

991
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: the core of this that's the that's the part that

992
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: that's the innocence of the series. Are the children? Are

993
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: the teenagers? Because you have all these adults who have

994
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: agendas from his mother has an agenda, o'sha is in denial,

995
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: but he has an agenda. Dave has an agenda. Uh,

996
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: the guy from the glad Eators, he has an agenda.

997
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: All tied back to the reality what you've you're showing us, Reggie,

998
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: this is happening right now. This is real life. This

999
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: is not something you're making up. And to be able

1000
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: to pull that off, and then it's almost tragic because

1001
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: how do we pull these kids out of it? Always

1002
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: there a train that we can't control anymore, and you

1003
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: just capturing it, put it on paper, allowing us to

1004
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: see a version of it. Well, you know, first of all,

1005
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: let me just say something. But what you talked about

1006
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: with innocence, right, so, you know, are most of our characters,

1007
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: most of these kids are fourteen years old, and so

1008
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: we know fourteen has some historical context, you know within

1009
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: the black community, right, Um, you know Matil fourteen years old, August.

1010
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm murdered, and you know that's still

1011
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: reverberates within our community. You know, I thought of these

1012
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: years later, right, um, and I saw this painting. But

1013
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: this amazing artist named Lisa Winnington, she did this painting

1014
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: called um there was about Emmett tail and it was

1015
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: called um. How let me see if I get the

1016
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: title right, Lisa. If I mess up the name of

1017
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: your art, I apologize. But it was how she sent

1018
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: him and how she got him back. And in this

1019
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: painting you see half of Emmett's face that's innocent and

1020
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: a vibrant and all these vibrant colors around them, like

1021
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: what we were calling our show, Emmet blue and Emmett yellow,

1022
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: and on the other side of his face it's mutilated.

1023
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: It's you know, with the you know, you know, the

1024
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: way the way the space was and he was beaten down.

1025
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: But we use her painting many ways. It's inspiration. And really,

1026
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, when I would talk to everyone about what

1027
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: we're doing, we were like, this innocence is what we're

1028
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: fighting for for our characters. We want this sort of innocence.

1029
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Our coaches they're fighting for our kids and maintain this innocence.

1030
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: And the flip side of it is that you're on

1031
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the other side of it, you know, and so um,

1032
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: so much of the of the of the sister's work.

1033
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, we you know it was

1034
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: it was actually a template for our color palette, you know,

1035
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Emmon blue, Emmon yellow, like all these sort of colors

1036
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: and our artwork U inspired us. And so the innocence

1037
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: versus the other side of it was, it was something

1038
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: that we really spent a lot of time talking about

1039
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: my brother. Outstanding of talking to Reggie Rock Britewood Swagger.

1040
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus premiers October twenty ninth. Three episode WHI

1041
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Speaker 1: air that night. After that is one episode weekly every

1042
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Speaker 1: Friday thereafter, an incredible series of coming of age series.

1043
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Speaker 1: Adults are inspired by NBA superstar Kevin Durant's life and

1044
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: experiences in the Washington, D c. Area. And then closing,

1045
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: you got the Yankee had on you know, uh and

1046
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't you know Steven A. Smith. She was, Oh no,

1047
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: never bring to Stephen A. Smith. Okay, you know that's

1048
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: why that's what I'm managed. And he's a superstar Yankee fan,

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Speaker 1: keep asking them when y'all come back, and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up the interview. I got one minute left.

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Speaker 1: It's your it's your moment to say the Yankees, sir. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the Yankees have one championships, more

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Speaker 1: Houston Astros? Okay, um um, how how how are we

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Speaker 1: we really want to talk about that. But here's a complict,

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Speaker 1: right because now who do I root for? A might

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Speaker 1: But I do like the Astros. But Yankees will always

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