WEBVTT - Welcome Back to Yellowstone

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm Jefferson White and I played Jimmy Herdstrom on

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<v Speaker 1>the Paramount Network original series Yellowstone, and I'm the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the last season of the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so happy to say that the weight is finally over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yellowstone is back.

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<v Speaker 2>In celebration of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Season five premiere, I'm excited to share with you a

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<v Speaker 1>recent CBS Sunday Morning interview with Kevin Costner and Taylor Sheridan,

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<v Speaker 1>the creator of Yellowstone, It's prequel eighteen eighty three and

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<v Speaker 1>the prequel's upcoming sequel nineteen twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Time Wise, westerns were a staple of television. Lee Cowen

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<v Speaker 3>is here to tell us there's a new sheriff in town,

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<v Speaker 3>along with a very different tale from out of the West.

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<v Speaker 2>Not far from Montana's bitter Root River, a postcard for

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<v Speaker 2>the American West, Kevin Costner was stoking a fire.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is how you do it. You just

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<v Speaker 4>get it closed and you make everything a little convenient.

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<v Speaker 2>For the last five years, this valley has been his campsite,

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<v Speaker 2>the backdrop for a modern day Western that's taken off

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<v Speaker 2>like a band of wild mustangs. Yellow Stone a Paramount production,

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<v Speaker 2>our parent company by the way, was the most watched

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<v Speaker 2>scripted series in all of television last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and I was supposed to talk about work at

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<v Speaker 5>the dinner table in the morning. It's a breakfast table, Beth.

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<v Speaker 5>You can talk business at the breakfast table.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a show as sweeping as the family it depicts.

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<v Speaker 2>John Dutton, a Montana rancher played by is a man

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<v Speaker 2>with one boot in the past and one reluctantly in

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<v Speaker 2>the present.

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<v Speaker 5>Just in America, we don't share land here.

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<v Speaker 2>Land. That's what John Dutton sees as his legacy. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing more important is loyalty.

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<v Speaker 5>If you betray me again, you're tend to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Son.

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<v Speaker 2>You understand you think Bonanza meets the god Pond.

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<v Speaker 6>Say it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll make a lawsuit much simpler, say stop building or else.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm skipping straight towhere else with you you, but from

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<v Speaker 4>now on what else is all you get? We're a

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<v Speaker 4>little violent. We're like a little bit of murder incorporated

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<v Speaker 4>our family. A little bit, a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little bit, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yellowstone is a reminder that our notion of the American

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<v Speaker 2>West is hardly as romantic as we sometimes like to believe.

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<v Speaker 4>The ranchers that came here they didn't own this land,

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<v Speaker 4>and they basically banded together and pushed out the native population.

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<v Speaker 4>The cattle wandered on to rest land. Cattle don't know

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<v Speaker 4>the difference between your land and ours.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither did we till the government showed us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still beautiful, but it's very easy to forget the drama,

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<v Speaker 4>the things that will never recover from He looks warmed up.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know that world to write it with

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<v Speaker 2>any real sense of authority, and few can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He like Yellowstones co creator and writer Taylor Sheridan.

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<v Speaker 5>I just make movies to support my horse habit.

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<v Speaker 2>If he looks and sounds the part of a horseman,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's because he is one. He'll talk riding and

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<v Speaker 2>roping all day long, but much beyond that he rains

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<v Speaker 2>it in.

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<v Speaker 5>My least favorite subject is myself. Yeah, I say about

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<v Speaker 5>everything I want to say when I write a story.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an economy to his language, a directness that he

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<v Speaker 2>carries to the set too.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't run much of a democracy. No, the words

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<v Speaker 5>are the words.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't kidding.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't tell people how to act. I don't need

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<v Speaker 5>anyone to tell me how to write.

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<v Speaker 2>And as writers go. He's been called one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most important Western storytellers in decades. He created eighteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pioneer prequel to Yellowstone, starring Faith Hill and Tim McGraw.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact Or Nato.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so popular that there's now a sequel to

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<v Speaker 2>that prequel starring Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren.

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<v Speaker 5>It's ludicrous that I'm working with these people. It's fantastically insane.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't find in any of his works are cowboy cliches.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy to make a bad Western, says Kostner. Making

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<v Speaker 2>a good one, though, is Sheridan's gift.

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<v Speaker 4>Western specifically, they can look really dumb, they can look obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>They're hard to make, and that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>To make a Western that you can relate to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheridan relates to it so well because he lives it.

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<v Speaker 2>He owns not one but two ranches in Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>actually provides most of the horses for his productions himself.

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<v Speaker 5>All the horses, for the most part in our business

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<v Speaker 5>are terrible. They're not very broke, they're not very safe,

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<v Speaker 5>which is one of the reasons you don't see actors

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<v Speaker 5>on very often. And I didn't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>so I bought all the horses for the show and

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<v Speaker 5>then taught the actors how to ride it.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't find an actor good enough on a horse

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<v Speaker 2>to play a horse trader on Yellowstone, so Sheridan play

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<v Speaker 2>the part himself. Try let me run and stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just ones.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been for three hundred thousand dollars, come on just once.

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<v Speaker 2>He fell into Hollywood first as a model.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't need to know your name money too.

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<v Speaker 2>He later began to audition and over the years got

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<v Speaker 2>parts and shows like Veronica Mars and Sons of Anarchy.

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<v Speaker 5>Fortunally for you, I'm a cop actually bound by the law.

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<v Speaker 2>But after more than two decades of trying, it never

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<v Speaker 2>became a leading may What kept it going.

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<v Speaker 5>In the acting world, I think stummornness a refusal to fail.

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<v Speaker 5>An interesting thing about Hollywood is if you let it,

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<v Speaker 5>if you listen, it will tell you exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be doing. Househo. I have never seen anyone

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<v Speaker 5>bang their head against the wall for twenty years and

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<v Speaker 5>then make it. I've never seen it. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 5>take eight years, I've seen it take ten years, but

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen it take twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>And is that where you would come to?

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<v Speaker 5>I had cut, well, I had come to where what

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<v Speaker 5>I the best I was ever going to to be was,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, tenth on the call sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>But one day a friend brought him a project, not

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<v Speaker 2>to audition for, but to write.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, look, I have no idea how to do this,

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<v Speaker 5>but I have a fifteen year education on how not

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<v Speaker 5>to do it. First thing that I wrote was Mary Kingstown.

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<v Speaker 5>And I sat down and I wrote the first episode

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<v Speaker 5>in about ten hours, really in one night. And when

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<v Speaker 5>I was done, I said, man, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 5>done this fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>From then on he began writing at a furious pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Out came scripts for films like Sacario, wind River, and

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<v Speaker 2>his Oscar nominated screenplay Hell or High Water.

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<v Speaker 5>He got to wait for this boy to make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>So far they hang, but they will and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>make it here.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad for only the second screenplay he ever wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it came to his idea for the series Yellowstone,

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<v Speaker 2>almost everyone in Hollywood passed. Nobody's doing TV westerns.

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<v Speaker 5>They said, Look, anytime that Hollywood says a genre is

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<v Speaker 5>dead is because they made a bunch of bad movies

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<v Speaker 5>about it.

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<v Speaker 6>People think of westerns of good guys and bad guys,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's really such a different show.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it much more complex.

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<v Speaker 6>Much more and much more appealing.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris McCarthy, Paramount Network President and CEO of MTV Entertainment,

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<v Speaker 2>essentially bet the ranch that Yellowstone would resonate.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing here.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been in television early twenty years and there's very

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<v Speaker 6>few times where my eighteen year old niece and my

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<v Speaker 6>eight year old aunt asked me about the same show.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, this is one of those moments. And

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<v Speaker 6>when you see the entire world, you get it. He

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<v Speaker 6>not only creates his own world in the TV series,

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<v Speaker 6>he creates that world for himself. And you know he's

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<v Speaker 6>unique that way. He writes what he knows, absolutely and

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<v Speaker 6>he writes it incredibly well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheridan now has no fewer than ten paramount series either

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<v Speaker 2>on the air or in the works. Busy doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>describe his life, and that's just the Hollywood side. He

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<v Speaker 2>just became part owner of the historic four to Six's ranch,

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<v Speaker 2>consisting of more than a quarter of a million acres

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<v Speaker 2>near Lubbock, which financially means you'd better keep on writing

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<v Speaker 2>hits to pay it all off.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about ready to retire. I had saved, I

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<v Speaker 5>had done really good. We were My goal was retired fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that he was going to go play golf or

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<v Speaker 2>something correct as a golf.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to I see that much grass.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to put cows on it. How's he priced.

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<v Speaker 2>It was? John Wayne to One said that nothing is

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<v Speaker 2>so discouraging to an actor then to have to work

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<v Speaker 2>for long hours upon hours in brightly lighted interior sets.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Costner feels pretty much the same way. The outdoor

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<v Speaker 2>world of the West that Taylor Sheridan has created is

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<v Speaker 2>a place that no one really wants to leave. What's

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<v Speaker 2>it like at the end of the days shooting though?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you guys all come down here and hang out?

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<v Speaker 1>And I do?

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<v Speaker 4>So I come down here and sometimes I just don't

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<v Speaker 4>go yeah home, you just stay here just because I

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<v Speaker 4>just stay right here. I mean, if those mountains don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel the need to move, why should I.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want more Yellowstone, you can catch up with

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<v Speaker 1>Every week you're gonna get exclusive access to cast and

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<v Speaker 1>crew members who will take you behind the scenes of

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