1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: What is up, straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Wednesday, February twenty six. There was a 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: late night for your boy because I was fortunate enough 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: to go to Lakers MAVs courtesy and my buddy Jeff 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: season ticket holder. I brought my buddy Dan as well, 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: and you know, a couple of his kids and what 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: an unbelievable night. Will dive all into that. Also, great 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: guest on the pot. You really excited for the NFL 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Draft two months away. Brentley Weissman, former scout of the Charger, 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: stops by. We'll chop up some quarterbacks. He is an 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: Oregon guy. We'll talk a little bit about Dylan Gabriel. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: I think you'll be surprised to hear his Riley Leonard 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: take Oh my goodness, Riley Leonard, how the Mighty have fallen? 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: But obviously Lakers one oh seven MAVs ninety nine, a fat, 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: fascinating game. Lakers were rolling, mav started to come back, 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: Clay got hot, Kyrie Irving was pretty scintillating throughout and 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: ultimately in the fourth quarter it was the lebron Luca 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Rui Hachi Mura Show and Austin Reeves had an excellent game. 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: Listen to Austin Reeve Truthers and I am I don't 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: know if I'm the biggest Austin Reeves fan and sports media, 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: but I'm certainly up there. Austin Reeves was excellent. There 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: was a moment in the fourth when Clay hit a 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: couple threes, tied it up and Reddit calls time out 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: and with I think it was like five minutes left, 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: he puts Austin Reeves on Klay Thompson and decides that's 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: you're the focus. Lockdown Clay because Dalton connected lost him. 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Ruey or Lebron, but 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: it just wasn't a great matchup and Clay started to percolate. 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Clay did not have a great first half at all, 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 2: but he ended up with twenty two hit five threes, 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: I think hit all of them in the second half, 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: and Austin Reeve shut him down. I'm just telling you, 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Reeves is a three on this team, is freaking phenomenal. 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: He was excellent. Lebron finished really strong in the fourth 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: twenty seven and twelve. Listen the MAVs were without all 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: three of their centers that they started someone named Kessler 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Edwards at center. I'm not familiar with his work. They 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: tried o Max the young kid for Marquette, Naj Marshall, 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: dwy Powell, like they just don't have any bigs right now, 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: that's just where they are. They had Moses Brown on 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: the bench, but they didn't dust him off. Ultimately, this 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: came down to, you know, Luca versus his former team. 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: And we got there early enough that you could see 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: Luca kind of warming up walking around, and you know, 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: everybody was all geeked for Luka doncic is it is 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: a weird vibe? Now, I don't. This is my first 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: Luca game as a Laker, and I got to be 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: on There were moments where I didn't even know Lebron 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: was off the court. That's how singular My focus was, 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: like where's Luca, what's he doing? He's talking to refs. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: He got a tech two minutes in. I thought it 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: was a garbage tech because the ref's missed terrible foul 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: was so obvious, and I'm thinking, oh, boys, Luca, would 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: they really toss him? You could tell Luca was amped 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: within the first like five minutes, he had his hands 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: on his knees, exhausted because of the energy spent going 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: against his former team. And afterward he's like, I barely 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: remember the game. I'm just glad it's over. Like the 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: amount of pent up anger he probably had. Nico Harrison, 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: the guy who traded him, was in the building, and 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: at various times throughout the game, there were chants of 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: thank you, Niko, doo doo doo doo doo, thank you. 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. And you know, obviously I've seen the 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: bogus memes about hey or not bogus memes, their bogus reports. 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: They're really memes, but they're claiming to be like credible 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: online saying Lakers are considering building a statue for the 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: guy who traded Luca Dodges to the Lakers. And Luca 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: continues to struggle a bit from three one of seven, 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: only shot six to seventeen. I don't actually know if 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: he did much in the fourth quarter, but he did 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: have several assists. He finished with nineteen, fifteen and twelve. 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that is a hell of a stat line, 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: and you could tell like he was really preoccupied. I mean, 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: he's clearly tight with Kyrie Irving after the time spent 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: with him. There would be moments where somebody's on the 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: free throw line and guys would come down to the 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: end of the court and like go to the bench 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: to like talk to Luca, just to say hi to him, 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: like he was. That's the weirdest part in all this. 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: He was loved in that locker room, except by the 82 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: guy who traded him because of these reports that he 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: was out of shape and combative with the coaching staff 84 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: and just delacked the will power to want to work 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: out in the off season. And it is interesting. I'll 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: just say this. I watched, or I had favored it, 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: a clip on one of these social media apps where 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: they were like rookie Luca was a big problem or 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: whatever they said, and you look at it and it 90 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: was like, holy cow, Lucas super skinny. He was much faster, 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: and I mean, he was a blur and you're like, oh, wow, 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: he's only twenty five, but he's got like the body 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: of an older guy because he's playing forever. I don't know, 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: I still don't think he's even close to one hundred 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: percent coming off the calf injured. Remember this guy was 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: on a scooter, what like six weeks ago, seven weeks ago. 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: I mean, he was out of action for two months 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: with the calf, and I just don't think he's anywhere 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent. He's not moving as fast. 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: He's still able to take guys off. The dribble to 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: finishing isn't quite there. But I thought he was good. 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: And you know, I know people are gonna say you're 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: going overboard. The maps were missing, you know, all three 104 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: of their centers. The Lakers got like five dunks. It 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: felt like in the fourth quarter. I just don't see 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 2: who's beating the Lakers in the West guys. I don't 107 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: And I know I've said this three days in a 108 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: row now, But when you watch Luca and Lebron, like 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: last year, Luca he had Kyrie as his wingman, and 110 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, you know, obviously there was PJ. 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Washington hit some free throws, but mostly it was Kyrie 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: and Luca. And now it's Lebron and Luca. And like 113 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, really really good player, offensively gifted, Lebron's way 114 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: better than Kyrie Irving even right now. 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Way better. 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: There's so many more things you look up the MAVs 117 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: had like, I think, zero assists in the first entire quarter. 118 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: They ended up passing the ball around. But like Kyrie's 119 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: he's thinking, shoot, he took twenty seven shots. Now they 120 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: have no offense. PJ Washington zero for nine. But like, 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: you know, a super Max CHRISTI, by the way, that 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: is such a cool nickname, super Max Christie four of thirteen. 123 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: He actually I thought he played well gaslid defense distributor. 124 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: I think he's probably a starter. It's so weird. Jaden Hardy, 125 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: who had moments last year in the playoffs. Remember he's 126 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: kind of like an Alan Iverson type, very shifty, quick, 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: a little thicker. But he's like not even playing now, 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: and Max Christy's like starting now. I don't know if 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: that's an edict from the GM from up top, but 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: very clear that Max Christie has loved and Jaden Hardy 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: like kind of has fallen out of favor a little bit. 132 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: But overall, a tremendous experience to be at the game 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: and watch these Lakers, and I know, people stop glazing 134 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: the Lakers. 135 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Come on. 136 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, man, you look at this team. 137 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: They're big horses. The real question is going to be 138 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 2: who's going to be their closer. It was Dorian Finney 139 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: Smith last night for his defense. Now, he was atrocious. Offensively, 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: he was terrible. He had one nice play in the 141 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: fourth quarter defensively. But I think occasionally it could be Vanderbilt. 142 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: I would not be shocked occasionally if it was Gabe 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: Vincent by the way he was bad. It could be 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: Dalton connect in the right matchup, it could be Cam Reddish. 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's going to be the fifth 146 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: spot by committee. The other four are pretty much they're 147 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: going to be on the floor in crunch time. Healthy Lakers. 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: They're going places folks. All right, Without further ado, let's 149 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: get to today's guest, former Charger scout Bretley Weisman. 150 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 151 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 152 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 153 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think 154 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 155 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for. 156 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 157 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome back 159 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: in too straight fire a guy who knows the NFL draft. Well, 160 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: he's breaking down a ton of prospects. Former Chargers scout 161 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: currently with Pro Football Network Brettley Weissman, Brentley, how you doing, 162 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: my man? 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Doing good? Jason, Thanks for having me back. It's Combine week. 164 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: It's an exciting time in our space. Obviously, I think 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: we're both pig NFL draft fans and you know this 166 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: is obviously when it really gets going. So looking forward 167 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,239 Speaker 3: to talking more and talking some draft prospects. 168 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're about exactly two months away, maybe a shade 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: under two months to the draft, and I'm again, you've 170 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: been in these war rooms before, you know what's going on. 171 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: One thing I'm starting to notice is certain prospects are 172 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: not getting mentioned. Guys we talked about all season, and 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's crickets on them, and we 174 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: hear a lot of other stuff about fast rising prospects. 175 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, how much of this has the misdirection started already? 176 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Are we hearing hype about certain guys to take us 177 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: off the scent of others? Are guys playing that game 178 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: already or is it too early for. 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: That I think it's a bit too early. What I 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: call this, I call it draft fatigue. And what I 181 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: mean by that is it's when we hear the same 182 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: names really starting right right after the previouser's draft in May. 183 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: So May twenty twenty four, we're hearing about Jint, We're 184 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: hearing about cam Ward Schador Sanders, all these players, Abdul Carter, 185 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: Will Johnson's of the world. And over the time we 186 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: just get tired of hearing the names. We get tired 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: of saying their names. And so the overall draft media, 188 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: it's called draft fatigue. And so we we searched and 189 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: yearned for adding and finding new players right to really 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: kind of lift up, just to just to create some spark, 191 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: some some conversation. You know, I'm seeing that now in 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: this quarterback class. I mean the amount of friends I've 193 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: had texting even speak like Tyler Schuck from from Louisville 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: has been ridiculous. I mean, yeah, people are blowing him up. 195 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: People are saying he's gonna be a second round draft pick, 196 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: second click it round draft pick. But you go two 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: months ago, people probably haven't heard his name. And so 198 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: I think there's a mix of just some fatigue, some 199 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: desire and trying to get some new names up there. 200 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of that' skin to kind 201 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: of clear itself out as we get closer to the 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: actual drafts. 203 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: It's interesting, So last year I was bullish on Sam 204 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Hartman at a Notre Dame being a brock Purty type guy, 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: late round pick, and it kind of didn't come to fruition. 206 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's going to be the case with 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: some of these quarterbacks that we keep hearing about. You know, Listen, 208 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: we had Daniel Jeremiah on last week, and I know 209 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: everybody likes Jackson Dart now, and it's like, Okay, I 210 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: fell for that bit with Matt Corral, you know. And 211 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: you look at Corral and you're like, oh, you did 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: well in that system. And Jackson Dart, I know he's 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: got the pedigree and big timer crew coming out of 214 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: high school. But again, that system's great, and I don't know, 215 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm just not buying it. The name that I'm really 216 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: focused on who is sliding down draft boards, which is 217 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: inexplicable to me, is Jaylen Milroe out of Alabama. I mean, 218 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: if you watch the Oklahoma game, he was awful, Like 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm surprised he had to get benched, like the third quarter, 220 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: it was that bad. And he had another game that 221 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: was pretty rotten. But at his height, you know, I mean, 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: that guy was he looked like the first half against 223 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: I believe it was a Georgia game. You watch him, 224 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: You're like, that's a top five pick. He was against 225 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: the Georgia defense. But again, it's a body of work. Milroe, 226 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: apparently off the field, is like a boy scout essentially, 227 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: just a great human being, great background. I just wonder, 228 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: is he going to be the mystery man of this draft, 229 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: sneaking into the top ten that we know there's a 230 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: lot of desperate quarterback teams. Do you see him as 231 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: a first rounder? 232 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 3: I don't. I think Jalen Milroe he has the opportunity, 233 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: out of any of these quarterbacks to really elevate himself 234 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, and he just simply didn't. 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: You know, his play was highly inconsistent. The accuracy wasn't 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: there from game to game. I mean, obviously the Oklahoma 237 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: game speaks for itself, but there was other games in 238 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: which he was missing a lot of passes that he 239 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: shouldn't be missing. Going back to the Michigan Bowl game. 240 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that was that was atrocious. He was awful 241 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: in that game as well. But you know, for me, 242 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: the Millero thing, it's I wouldn't want to take him 243 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 3: in the first round and bet my career on him 244 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: ever taking that next step. Right, The Colts just did 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: that with Anthony Richardson, and those two players, in my opinion, 246 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: have a very similar skill set. And obviously, yes, if 247 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: they hit that skill set, we're talking a high end, 248 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback or quarterback that can make plays with 249 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: both his arm and his legs. I think he has 250 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: all the intangibles, but the risk is just too high 251 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: for me to take him in that first round. I 252 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: don't see a player that has any sort of floor. 253 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: I think, you know, if you miss on him, he's 254 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: out of the league in three years. Right, That's kind 255 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: of That's where I see Jalen Mirrow the player that 256 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: I think, you know, can really help himself that this 257 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: week Queen Yours out of Texas. Yeah, you know, he's 258 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: he's a player that look, I mean, obviously he entered 259 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: the year with a ton of hype, right, and he 260 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: may not have plight up to that level, but This 261 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: is a player who's a former five star recruit, a 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: highly productive quarterback at Texas. I think he's a very 263 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: natural throw of the football, and especially this we can 264 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: combine week when Shador already said he's not gonna participate. 265 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: We don't know about cam mood if he's gonna throw, 266 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: probably not, probably not, probably not. I wouldn't vous him either, 267 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: by the way. And so you're gonna quin Yours, who 268 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: is the prototypical seven on seven quarterback. He is everything 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: you want from the arm and what he's able to 270 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: do with his arm. He can layer the football, the 271 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: ball jumps out of his hands, He's an accurate passer. 272 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: I think one of the storylines of leaving Indy is, oh, 273 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: did we just all forget about Queen Yours? And I 274 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: think he's gonna elevate himself more into that. I mean, 275 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: right now people are having go undrafted, which is. 276 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: No undrafted un a drafted that's crazy. I don't know, 277 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you're drafted un. 278 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna work his way back into 279 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: that lower kind of back end third round, early fourth 280 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: round range, and I think that will be a good 281 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: lay in the lot run. 282 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean, how soon we forget Kenny Pickett went twentieth 283 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: overall of one good year at Pitt. Like, how about this, 284 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Let's let's go keep on quarterbacks. I know it's like 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: cool to put anyone other than cam Ward or a 286 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: quarterback or Shadour at one, because you know, easier to 287 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: get clicks if you don't put a quarterback at one. Right, 288 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: Let's be real, all these people who don't have quarterbacks 289 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: at one and two are gonna have them there when 290 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: there's three weeks to go. Okay, we know it's a 291 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: quarterback league. The Titans do not have a quarterback. You 292 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: can't take it defensive, and cam Ward's gonna go one 293 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: or two. Shador will go one or two. The Browns 294 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: sead quarterback. It's obvious. 295 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 296 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: I think people are trying to overthink the room. Are 297 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: you with me on this? They're not the best players 298 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: in the draft, but they'll go one and two. 299 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting case. I think you could 300 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: certainly make an argument for both of them to take quarterbacks. 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: I do think, you know, the Titans general managers speaking 302 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: at the interview and the generational prospects and all that stuff. 303 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how much stock. I'm putting that honestly. 304 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: In that statement, I think, look, I think the Titans 305 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: are more likely to take a quarterback than the Browns. 306 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: I think the Browns need to just really bottom out. 307 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they're in a position to do. They 308 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: couldn't get order down. I just think they need to 309 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: get to a spot where once they're closer to getting 310 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: Watson off their books, that's when it makes more sense 311 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: of trying to take that younger quarterback, because then they 312 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: can really build around him, because right now they can't 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: even build around a player they draft because they have 314 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: so much money tightening to Watson. So for me, with 315 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: the Titans, if you take a quarterback, whether it's cam Ward, 316 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: I think it would be cam Ward. If to take one, 317 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: I think cam Ward is better than you do. Or 318 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: and you bring him in, you get rid of Lovis. 319 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: I know that coach today said, you know, you know 320 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: he'll be competing whenever we bring in. I don't buy 321 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: that at all. He will be ar traded, right, And 322 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: so I think if you're the Titans, you take Ward, 323 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: put him in the division with A and Richardson in 324 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: CD Strout and Trevor Lawrence. I mean, you can be 325 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: argument in two years Titans can can compete. Now again, 326 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: I don't know if the Titans are staying at their 327 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: draft board, have cam Ward the top five player? If 328 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: if positions weren't taken into account, where does Ward stock up? 329 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have him in the top ten. 330 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: And by my purpose post yeah, positions, you know, kind. 331 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 3: Of it doesn't matter to your point, and so I 332 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: do think it's gonna be a tough debate. But yes, 333 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: if I was a betting man, I would put money 334 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: on cam Ward being the number one pick to the Titans. 335 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: I have suspicions about the door Sanders. I don't know 336 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: if he'd be the Browns personal choice, but I wouldn't 337 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: be shocked either way. 338 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: So let me ask you about this. You know, obviously 339 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: the Watson thing makes sense because of the contract. It's awful, 340 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But what about just the stench around Watson, 341 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: around that deal, the locker room. I mean, he's awful, 342 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: He's now I think he popped his achilles twice here 343 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: in the last four months or whatever. If you just 344 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: take a quarterback, the Watson era is done, it's done. 345 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: He's a foegone conclusion. He's on the books, but that's 346 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: all he is. It doesn't really matter. Nobody's talking about 347 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: him because you now focused on Shador and the next chapter. 348 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: And you've got a great offensive coach. It's Sefanski. I 349 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: would just who cares bite the bullet. For two years 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: we saw Denver do it with Russell Wilson, huge dead 351 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: Caphit didn't matter, they made the playoffs. There was another 352 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: tea I think it was. Was it the Packers with 353 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Rogers they had a huge dead caphit, I believe, and 354 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: still made the playoffs I think each of the last 355 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: two years. So it can be done. So that's why 356 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: I think Shador just goes too. And I'm not in 357 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: love with him. Not only he's great, but I think 358 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: we'll find out if he's great, right, Yeah. 359 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Cleveland is an interesting spot. They 360 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: have a good offensive line, decent running game, obviously Nick 361 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: Chubbs coming off the injury last year, and so theoretically 362 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: they are built to have a young quarterback, right I mean, 363 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: Jerry Judy's coming off a career year. I like some 364 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: of their other offensive pieces, So yeah, I mean, I 365 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: think it wouldn't make sense to insert Shador in that 366 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: kind of system, in that organization. I think the Miles 367 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: Garrett cloud is really lingering here. You know, if he 368 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: really is gonna demand a trade and under no circumstance 369 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: come back, I'd have a hard time not taking Abdul 370 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: Carter at two trading Miles Garrett accumulating a ton of 371 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: picks for twenty twenty six, where you could have, you know, 372 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: everyone's Archie Manning. But I like Nico out of Tennessee. Yeah, 373 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: I have the kid out of South Carolina. I think 374 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: he's a red shirt sophomore. He'll he'll be ultimle next year. 375 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: So I just think next to his quarterback class is 376 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: just frankly better. So you know, that might be an 377 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: interesting proposition for the Browns. Hey get Abdul Carter this year, 378 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: play with a cheap veteran quarterback, whoever that may be, 379 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: and go that route. 380 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: So well, hold on, if you're Stefanski and you know 381 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: they're pushing this on you, I think you have to 382 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: demand a new contract because if you go, if you win, 383 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 2: would they win this past year four games? Five games? 384 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: If you do that again and you have a top 385 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: three pick, you're probably getting fired. Right, what coach survives 386 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: back to back like thirteen loss season, I don't think 387 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: it had. It's not very often, even though he's been 388 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: coaching the year, I think twice. 389 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think Stefanski and Babel on the 390 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: same situation. I think they're both in the same situation 391 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: where it is getting their benefit to get a quarterback. 392 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: It is in both of their best interest to get 393 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: a quarterback, whether that's in the draft, whether that's obviously 394 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: the stafford rummers with you know, the Giants. But I 395 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: think both of those head coaches want quarterbacks. Now. If 396 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 3: you're Andrew Barry, right, and I feel like he has 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: a little more leash than Stefanski. And I don't know why. 398 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: I think Stancy is a good coach. Yeah, I think 399 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: he's a good coach. I would again not force it 400 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: on your door because again, I just don't think he's 401 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: worthy of that pick. But again, yeah, for Stefanski, why 402 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: would I want to be a lame duck. I don't 403 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: want to be a lame duck head coach, you know 404 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm not gonna let the Browns do 405 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: me like that, especially when I've been dealing with the 406 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: Watson stuff, and everyone always said that that Watson stuff 407 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: really came from the owner, right, you know, I'm not. 408 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure Stefancy really wanted Watson in the first place. 409 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean I would absolutely demand a 410 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: new contract because at the end of the day, you know, 411 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: if they they draft a sador or if they kind 412 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: of sign a random a street free agent off the street, 413 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, his job could be in jeopardy of filming games. 414 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up 415 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports 416 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR 417 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: to listen live. 418 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: So where do you fall on need versus talent. Let's 419 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: say it goes quarterback quarterback Abdul Carter to the Giants 420 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: at three and the Giants get Stafford or Rodgers or whoever. 421 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: So the Patriots are a four or you know, they 422 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: desperately need an offensive line. I believe they had the 423 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: most different offensive line combinations in the league. Drake may 424 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: got murdered in the pocket. They need to tackle. But 425 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: a guy like Travis Hunter, this generational talent. I'm not 426 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: buying that for them. By the way, what do you 427 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: do do you go offensive line. Obviously everybody says trade back. 428 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: Let's just say that that's not on the table always 429 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: trading up for Travis Hunter. Do you go Hunter? Do 430 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: you go O line? Or is there some some other need? 431 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if they think Hunters 432 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: a dB or a wide receiver. They've got a great 433 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: dB in Gonzales. They need wide receiver help. But Drake 434 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: May's not gonna be able to throw the football down 435 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: the field if they don't, if they don't get the 436 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: offensive line fixed. 437 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: It's in that scenario. So let's pretend so, yes Ward 438 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Sanders Carter, in that scenario, I'm the Patriots, I am 439 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: drafting Travis Hunter, and he is going to be a 440 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: receiver for me, and it is going to be the 441 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: Drake May and Travis Hunter connection for the next ten years. 442 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, time out, time out limit, lily. So the Detroit 443 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: Lions were in this spot. They had the choice of Pinae. 444 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: Sewel or Jamar Chase. They went Pine Sewel. Now, I 445 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: don't think Sewel's been more highly regarded than Campbell and 446 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: the kid from Texas for sure, absolutely, but Chase is 447 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: also higher regarded than Hunter. I think get wide receiver. Right, 448 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: So the Lion it worked out kind of for both. Right, 449 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: the Lions have now had two incredible seasons no super Bowl, 450 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: and the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and lost. 451 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: So is this a similar situation for the Patriots. 452 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: No, because I don't think the gap is anywhere near 453 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: year Like Travis Hunter and Will Campbell, I think is 454 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 3: a pretty significant drop off when you compare it to 455 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: Pine versus Chase I thought, I don't, I don't know, 456 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: but even close in terms of their level of talent, right, 457 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: I really believe that. I think Travis Hunter is me 458 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: is one of the three best players in this class. 459 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: I have it Carter Hunter and Mason Graham, and it's 460 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: pretty significant drop off i'd say between the third and 461 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: the fourth player. And also for me, and this may 462 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: not be a popular opinion, but I would take Hunter 463 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: as a receiver no matter what. I think Hunter is 464 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: a receiver first and foremost. I don't think he's a 465 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: corner who you give him twenty snaps on offense. I 466 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: think his best value to an NFL team is at receiver. 467 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: I think Travis Hunter's ball skills are absolutely rare. We're 468 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: looking at a rare, explosive athlete with the quick twitch 469 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: to create separation and do all these things after the catch. 470 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: I just think he's an impact day one thousand yard 471 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: head touchdown receiver. And we know in this league, good 472 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: offense beats good defense, you know, nine out of the 473 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: ten times, and so I think, for one, he's a receiver. 474 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: And if you're the Patriots and you do need both 475 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 3: receiver and tackle help, I do think the gap between 476 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and Will Campbell as an example, is pretty significant. 477 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: So I would have to take Hunter in that position. Now, 478 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: you know again, let's say Hunter is not available, then yeah, 479 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: I think you definitely take Will Campbell when you call 480 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: it a day, because you need to protect drinking May. 481 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: All right, running back class is strong. I see your 482 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks Pennant there in the background. Ashton Genty from 483 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Boise just eviscerated. The Oregon defense was phenomenal. It didn't 484 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: do as well against Penn State, but whatever, I like 485 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Genty a lot. I don't I'm off this top ten stuff. 486 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: The running back class is strong. I know running backs 487 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: matter again, I'm so happy for them. Do you see 488 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: Genty going top ten? 489 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: Top ten? 490 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: Now? I don't think. I don't think top ten, not 491 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: because he isn't worthy of it, but I don't think 492 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: there's a team in the top ten that can afford 493 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: to do that. I just don't think there's a fit. 494 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: I think Genet's you know, range starts with Dallas at twelve. 495 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: I think that's probably the first real landing spot. And 496 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: then to me, his seat, his floor would be Denver. 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: I don't think he could past ten at twenty. To me, 498 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: that those are his that's his range from twelve to twenty, 499 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: and I think any team that would pick him in 500 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 3: that range is getting an absolute home run. And I 501 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: know running back and I'm very agatting. I'm running back guy. 502 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm happy that they're getting respect again. I wouldn't rather 503 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: not take a round on running back if I can 504 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: avoid it. But in this draft, Jason, I mean, there's 505 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: not a lot of stars. There's not a lot of 506 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: high end players that I think can come in and 507 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: make legit impacts like day one. Like last year was 508 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: last year. We're gonna look back at last year and 509 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: say this is one the best classes of all time. 510 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: I mean it was unbelieved one year. I mean the 511 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: early returns that we've seen from last year's class is ridiculous. 512 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: Pretty good, yeah, and I don't think. 513 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: That this year's class is even seventy percent of that. 514 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: And so when you're asking gent and you know, he's 515 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: easily to me a top six player in this class, 516 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: like just go ahead and take him if you need 517 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: a running back, and you know you're kind of in 518 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: that middle area of the first round, like why not? 519 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: You know, I do think he's one of the few 520 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: players that can really make an impact early on, and 521 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: so I would be more than comfortmatating Jint again. Twelve 522 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 3: to twenty, let's do it. 523 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: We saw the Falcons go Bijon. I think he went 524 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: like eight or something eight, So I don't think they 525 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: have a playoff appearance with him. He's been good and 526 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: put up good numbers, but it's like, eh, Meanwhile, the 527 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: Lions took Gibbs. Gibbs, where did he go? Was he 528 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: in the He went to twelve? 529 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: So like the remember the line trade back from six 530 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: to twelve? 531 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: Oh, he went twelve. Okay, the twelve he's been he's 532 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: been awesome for them, but he's part of a combo backfield. 533 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: He's not like the guy like Bijon is the guy. 534 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I even Dallas getting gent seems weird. 535 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: All right, we could wrap up with this. I want 536 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: a reference Oregon again. Your guy, Dylan Gabriel just a 537 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: tremendous season. Do you think he gets drafted, he. 538 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: Gets drafted, he gets drafted. I think he'll hear his 539 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: name called somewhere between at the earliest fourth round, probably 540 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: more realistically round six. I think, you know, Tua and 541 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: Bryce Young having some level of success in the NFL 542 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: while also being shorter quarterbacks is going to help Dylan Gabriel. 543 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: I think Dylan Gabriel what he's done over the course 544 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: of his career, not just the Oregon but you know, 545 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: over the past six years, very accurate, good decision making, 546 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: outstanding leader. I mean, everyone loves him like it's it's crazy, 547 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: all the things I've heard about him just being the 548 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: heart and soul of a Ducks team that he joined, 549 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: you know in February, right, Like he's rare in intangibles 550 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: and and I think once you know, once the coaches 551 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: get involved in the interviews and things like that, which 552 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: happens in the combine, he's gonna shoot up the boards. 553 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: So he won't you know, he won't go ahead of 554 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: some of like like a mill Row, like Miller will 555 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: go ahead of him. 556 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: But like, oh god, listen, I sorry, I think nol 557 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: Road is probably gonna go first round. But I know 558 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: that's crazy. Let me get Will Howard or or Gabriel 559 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: who goes first? 560 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: Will Howard? 561 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the funny thing. Before that playoff run, 562 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: when they look like a totally different team. No way, 563 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't even think Howard gets drafted. He did not 564 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: have a good season, but in the playoff run. 565 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: Watching little Howard versus Michigan, I thought, I mean, yeah, 566 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: this dude's he was awful. Took that shot true, and 567 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: he was good against I mean, I was out the 568 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: game in Eugene. He played good against the Ducks, even 569 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: they the loss. 570 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: Well, he did screw the up, screw up the ending. 571 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: I don't know the that's as a fifth year quarterback, 572 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: that was brutal. 573 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: But in terms of throwing the ball, I thought, I 574 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: thought he played well. But you know, Will Howard to me, 575 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: I mean him and Riley Leonard, those two players and 576 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: what they've shown in the playoff stretch, I mean, incredible 577 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: and tangible is incredible competitiveness. I think Will Howard really 578 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: in terms of the way he passes the football really 579 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: made him a lot of improvements in the playoffs. He 580 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: threw with much more touch, better chustry across all levels 581 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 3: of the field. 582 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean he was leading for like oh, I mean yeah, 583 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. How about this last one you mentioned 584 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: it the Notre Dame quarterback Riley Leonard, Yep, Gabriel or Howard. 585 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: Who do you think goes higher? 586 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: I think it was gonna It's gonna go Howard, Gabriel, 587 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: Riley Leonard. 588 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: And what do you think Leonard's fallowing that far? 589 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think Riley Leonard had the worst season out 590 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: of the three. I don't think he's a natural thrower 591 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: of the ball. Probably Leonard to me, like draft him 592 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: in the seventh round and do the touchbush all day 593 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: long like that would be like our deal roster spot 594 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: for Riley Leonard is draft him your thirst string and 595 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: touchbush all day long, like that's a great investment. 596 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: So it's funny, Well it's not funny, but the duke 597 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: situation ended right and he goes to Notre Dame and 598 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: he had had a surgery. I believe with Duke and 599 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: he went to Notre Dame and they were like, yeah, 600 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: they didn't do a good job and he had to 601 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: get the surgery again or there was something some similar 602 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: like double surgery, extra rehab, and it doesn't seem like 603 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: he really got over it ever, And he just didn't 604 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: have a I mean, he threw for like sixty yards 605 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: in one of the playoff games, didn't he. 606 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they could not move the ball in the air. 607 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 3: I mean it was brutal to watch. And you know, 608 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: he you know, throughout the playoff run he had a 609 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: couple of clutch moments actually through the air, and I 610 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: mean he he had a couple clutch moments, but overall 611 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: on the. 612 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: Penn State game, he had a couple of good passes. 613 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: Overall, though, this is not a player that you felt 614 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: comfortable when he dropped back. You had no idea where 615 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: to help the bobbles go. Yeah, and so you know 616 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: what I mean, I love what he stands for. His 617 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: postgame interviews were amazing. You know what you want to 618 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: you want you want it's a group for him. But yeah, 619 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean I'd be shocked if he's drafted anywhere before 620 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: the sixth probably closer to the seventh round. 621 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: All right, Bradley, when's your next mock draft coming out? 622 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: Next mock draft will be after the combine. So I'm 623 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: gonna wait post combine. I'm gonna wait and see kind 624 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: of all the data points that we get from the combine, 625 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: who helps himself, who hurts himself, and also kind of 626 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: all the chatter which happens over over cocktails, you know, 627 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: with all the GMS and stuff. So have some good 628 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: updates on my board after the combine and put them 629 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: mock draft out on PFN, and uh yeah, it should be. 630 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: It should be a good time. 631 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, thanks a lot for taking the time, 632 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: Thanks 633 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: For having me.