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Speaker 2: Okay, podcast starts now Wowow. Today we are in the

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Speaker 2: studio in Hollywood, California.

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Speaker 3: The life updates are NonStop, NonStop. I wish they would stop.

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Speaker 3: I literally wish for one day there were no life updates.

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Speaker 2: I would actually be so grateful for how to have

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Speaker 2: one day where I don't have to text anyone that

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Speaker 2: anything has happened.

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Speaker 3: I swear to God, the way I am fielding phone

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Speaker 3: calls left and right, you would not believe. So. First

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Speaker 3: of all, I'm visiting La That's right to do my

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Speaker 3: famous stand up show. So now two nights, Baby and

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Speaker 3: I the other day, in the same day, you were

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Speaker 3: in the hospital getting surgery while my sister in law

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Speaker 3: was giving birth.

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Speaker 4: Two hospitals, two coasts, two patients, two.

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Speaker 3: Shows, and I am I'm feeling like, you know, the

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Speaker 3: carmelo soprano, the matriarch at home. That's like, oh, my

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Speaker 3: boys are are okay, that's my that's Carmel Southern Carmel soprando.

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Speaker 3: And meanwhile, my mom, who's very invested in both things,

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Speaker 3: like how's Sam, how's the baby?

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Speaker 4: How's Sam? Calling me?

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Speaker 3: The second I'm you know, entering a work there whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then I'm visiting you at the hospital. I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: I need to bring him two pastries. What if he's hungry?

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Speaker 3: What if my boy is hungry? And guess what I was,

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Speaker 3: and you were. Of course, I'm getting a FaceTime to

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Speaker 3: meet the baby while I'm at the other hospital. Then

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Speaker 3: I'm like in the lobby of the hospital, people around me,

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Speaker 3: you know, having god knows what. And then I'm like

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Speaker 3: in the best mood ever, being like she's so cute,

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Speaker 3: and then everyone around me is like in the process

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Speaker 3: of like dealing with some terrible illness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you've really held it all together,

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Speaker 2: my rock. You've been the rock to so many people

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Speaker 2: this week. And yeah, I had a surgery and you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm to the point and so many calls, so many texts.

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Speaker 2: My family's like what's wrong, how are you? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't have time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there is a I'm there is a sort

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Speaker 3: of Munchausen esque thing happening with you where no one

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Speaker 3: knows exactly what they do.

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Speaker 2: Is well, it's because it's not like it's not like

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Speaker 2: an easy it's not a quick word. You can't be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I had an appendectomy before, you know, it's sort of

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Speaker 4: Of custom, yes, and you always go customer.

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Speaker 2: I've never if you're getting your surgeries off the rack,

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Speaker 2: you need to grow up. It's twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Los Angeleshilosopher's weekend, like if you're if you're

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Speaker 3: out there literally getting like you're like amputated, Like, grow

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Speaker 3: up up, get a custom surgery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know that it's perfectly fine. And was

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Speaker 2: sort of kidney related and yeah, I'm going to say it.

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Speaker 2: I have a catheterin currently.

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Speaker 3: So we were saying, you know, we'll bring our guests

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Speaker 3: in a second, and I am dying too. But the

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Speaker 3: big debate this weekend was we are having you know,

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Speaker 3: one of our true idols, role models, like she is mother,

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Speaker 3: you know, everyone a raise, everyone has voted, and she

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Speaker 3: is the President of the United States. Yes, and meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: you have a catheter and there's no way around it

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Speaker 4: We were like, will.

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Speaker 3: Kathy find it funny if we bring it up, or

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Speaker 5: To me?

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Speaker 2: To me, it had to be brought up because it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like the fear that struck me when

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Speaker 2: the doctor told me that, And then I was like,

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Speaker 3: Okay, we actually need to bring her in because I'm

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Speaker 3: shaking with anticipation. Oh my god, please welcome you become

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Speaker 4: Kathy Griffins.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love her. She is around applause

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Speaker 5: all right, first time. I'm so honored because I went

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Speaker 5: on Twitter before it became x which is now just

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Speaker 5: I asked to my fans, I said, Gaga has her monsters,

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Speaker 5: to be called? And the number one vote was they

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Speaker 5: wanted to be called catheters. Oh my god, wow, I

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Speaker 5: am honored and my catheters support you. I have had

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Speaker 5: a catheter. I found it to be a great relief

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Speaker 5: because when I didn't have it and could not void,

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Speaker 5: which is the doctor word for me, it was so painful.

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Speaker 5: I felt like somebody was standing on my bladder with

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Speaker 5: a combat boot laughing. So my question is, how does

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Speaker 2: Okay, it feels uncomfortable, but it's been getting better every day.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I've had it since Thursday. How long do

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Speaker 2: But will say it feels every time I move. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: And the big part of the narrative is Sam's doctor

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Speaker 3: is being very chill about all of this. Sam didn't

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Speaker 3: and the doctor was like, what's the big deal, right.

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Speaker 2: He was like, well, most people will even want this,

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Speaker 2: Like why are you being so weird about it?

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Speaker 4: And You're like, well, I have to I have work,

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Speaker 4: Like why be able to go to work? She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: He's like, okay, well it's a normal letter that the

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Speaker 5: doctors acting like none of us don't have a catheter.

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Speaker 3: And then I also felt gaslap because I told my

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Speaker 3: mom and I was like, isn't it crazy that we're

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Speaker 3: caather And she's like, what's the big deal. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: why is everyone trying to getsbating?

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Speaker 4: It's normal?

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Speaker 2: My mom was like that's horrible, And I was like, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: don't go that hard, like I do have to do

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Speaker 2: it with the baby.

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Speaker 5: Wish I had one in, But I'm also granting that

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Speaker 5: it's horrible and it also could be normalized for people.

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Speaker 4: Normal normalized guys.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. It's about time.

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Speaker 4: It's about time I start the movement.

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Speaker 2: I'm going out to dinner tonight, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: I cannot something about how funny it will be to

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Speaker 6: As you can often. Are you going to drain yourself?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go as often as maybe

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Speaker 4: Hour, when the bag feels when the else.

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Speaker 2: I keep saying for some reason, I keep referring to

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Speaker 2: having the catheter as Diva Mode unlocked.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's fabulous, that is fabulous.

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Speaker 6: Right, turn that front upside down with that, I don't

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Speaker 3: No Diva, honestly, Disa Mode Unlocked would be a great

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Speaker 3: album title for you.

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Speaker 4: It would be really good special type.

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Speaker 4: I think that's really genius.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I have to confront about something which is so I'm

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Speaker 3: as everyone every listener knows.

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Speaker 4: I grew up in Greece. My family is Greek. And

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Speaker 3: To see on a social media platform that you went

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Speaker 5: The Queen of Greece, literally, the queen. She is the

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Speaker 5: Britney spears of Greece. She cannot go three feet in

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Speaker 4: Fans literally, and that's not a joke.

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Speaker 3: And I last summer was in Greece and my friend

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Speaker 5: From my big fact the Empire franchise.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I was recently watching Curb. She's

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Speaker 3: in a season one episod sort of Curb. Oh, Larry's

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Speaker 3: like doctor or something. Remember, she's great, She's incredible. One

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Speaker 6: That is a.

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Speaker 4: Stranger That.

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Speaker 6: Is not appropriate when you could have been with the

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Speaker 4: Literally, So how was are you friends with her?

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember how I met her. You know,

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Speaker 6: I call it the charity circuit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 5: I went to a thing last night for the Gay

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Speaker 5: and Lesbian Center and I ran into Gabrielle Union, who

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Speaker 6: And then she goes and Hey is out with Tom

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Speaker 6: and Rita.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh I know Rita.

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Speaker 6: The honorary King and Queen of.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right, but there are two Greeks queens.

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Speaker 3: When I was growing up, the big thing was Tom

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Speaker 3: and Rita had a home in I believe in Tipers,

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Speaker 5: Sausage, getting getting sausage from Tom Hanks and.

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Speaker 4: readA of course, you know, dancing in the corner traditional.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, do you feel like the neoverardalas? Okay, guys

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Speaker 5: When we went to Madonna, I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: And there's a great scene where Sally Field isn't getting

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Speaker 5: the Madonna concert with Cia Harris, Hilton Lunel and the

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Speaker 5: speed up that moment, so I was slowing down posing

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Speaker 5: I like it. Old Paris at least three times and said,

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Speaker 5: you're on your own, bitch, it's my time now. But

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Speaker 5: evening and I did do a post about it on

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Speaker 5: as much as we all worship the Queen Madonna, I

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Speaker 5: which Rosie o'donnald said extends to her life and her homes. Yes,

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Speaker 5: of sheet got from trashy laingerie that day, Lunelle was

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Speaker 5: in like these fendy sweaters and see you had on

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Speaker 5: I would not be surprised if man Donna yelled at me,

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Speaker 5: although I don't know her, but if I ever met her,

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Speaker 5: I'm ready for her to yell at me and say,

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Speaker 5: who do you think you are leaving my show?

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Speaker 4: I think it would be an honor for you to

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Speaker 6: Be laughing and crying at the same time. And Dovini,

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Speaker 4: She yelled at him. She yelled at Andy Cohen when

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Speaker 4: I saw her. Somebody should well.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're talking I think there are now Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Wait, why did she yell at him because she was

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Speaker 2: like she sort of saw him stop saying bad show?

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Speaker 3: Yeah because he yeah, because he like talks about her

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Speaker 6: Yes, I look.

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Speaker 5: I gotta say. I loved her show. I think it's

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Speaker 5: And the fact that she's doing the same dance moves

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Speaker 5: I'm not having it. That is our queen. And does

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Speaker 5: she sing? You know, probably not, but we don't really

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Speaker 6: The actual scene.

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Speaker 5: She's not Maria Collis. I'm just saying she never was,

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Speaker 5: but she's our Madonna. And the way she gives up

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Speaker 5: the hits and she sings bad Girl, which she hardly

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Speaker 5: ever sings Live and Lived to Tell, and she gives

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Speaker 5: And I love that she's doing it at sixty five

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Speaker 5: because I don't think it's desperate. I think she's proving

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Speaker 5: one of my faves, but Madonna, just the dancing part

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Speaker 5: is what kills me. And just you know that Jana

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Speaker 5: Jackson tour is also amazing, and Janet at sixty is

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Speaker 5: doing the same moves from the videos and also not singing,

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Speaker 5: but not important to me, not important to me.

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Speaker 4: Who is singing?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Miley, I.

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Speaker 4: Love my.

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Speaker 6: Y I am over.

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Speaker 4: I don't need everyone. I mean here's the big question.

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Speaker 6: For I need to sing. Oh god, no.

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Speaker 5: But when I did go see her Vegus residency, I

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Speaker 6: Beautiful, who I'm divorcing because of this. No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 5: But he turned to me and he about twenty minutes in,

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Speaker 5: so sincerely, he goes, I don't think she's even really singing.

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Speaker 6: I think she's lip singing, sinking. I go, look around,

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Speaker 6: you think these guys care. These guys are doing.

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Speaker 5: Car wheels, their phones are out, they're jumping up and

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Speaker 6: Nobody gives a shit. She's doing the best she can. Brittany.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why Miley is such a big deal

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Speaker 3: when she comes out, because people are like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: People can sing if they want.

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Speaker 5: Kelly Clarkson, Kelly Clarkson, she can see anything.

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Speaker 4: No, you know what, the big mystery is what Beyonce.

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Speaker 5: Beyonce probably does. I would think she does like half

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Speaker 5: it half because you can't dance that much and say,

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Speaker 5: that's what people have to understand. She's really really moving

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Speaker 5: around doing real choreography. So she's probably got the autotune mic,

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Speaker 5: which is also fine. With me, with Me, it's part

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Speaker 5: of the show, and it's a show, not a recording session. No,

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Speaker 5: we're not in the studio with Phil Spector trying not

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Speaker 5: to get shot. We're just trying to make the case

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Speaker 5: happy and do a lot of fun dancing.

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Speaker 2: M That was an incredible little snippet to hear the

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Speaker 2: rest of the episode. Fine Stradio Lab, wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Now, get back to work. We don't pay to just

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Speaker 4: sit around and listen to gay guys talk. Bye.