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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison here coming to you from the home office

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Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. I have such an interesting, such a

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Speaker 1: compelling show today because of the guests that I have,

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Speaker 1: Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan. They are a couple. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know about them, let me explain briefly before

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Speaker 1: we jump into this interview, because context and the facts

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Speaker 1: that surround this are incredibly important. Larsa Pippen was married

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Speaker 1: to Scottie Pippen for some what twenty twenty three years now.

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Speaker 1: They did meet and fell in love at the latter

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Speaker 1: stages and really at the end of Scotty's run with

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls. Marcus Jordan is Michael Jordan's son, the

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Speaker 1: greatest basketball player of all time, the Goat. But these

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Speaker 1: two gentlemen, Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan, will forever be

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Speaker 1: intertwined because of their run with the Bulls, their dynasty.

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Speaker 1: They were the greatest basketball franchise probably ever and without Michael,

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Speaker 1: there wouldn't be Scotty. Without Scotty, there wouldn't be Michael.

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Speaker 1: They went on to the Dream Team won Olympic gold.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these two guys were as synonymous as peanut

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Speaker 1: butter and jelly. They just go together. So when news

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Speaker 1: broke that Scotty's ex wife, Larsa and Michael's son were dating,

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Speaker 1: it's just the optics and the sound of it all

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Speaker 1: was just too much for our little brains to handle,

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Speaker 1: and our imagination started to run wild. There's Larsa with

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Speaker 1: a young Marcus, a baby Marcus Jordan babysitting him and

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Speaker 1: robbing the cradle and is that what it was like?

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Speaker 1: How long did they know each other? And it had

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Speaker 1: this weird feel and then the tabloids went crazy. Well,

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Speaker 1: none of that is true. That perspective is a false narrative.

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Speaker 1: And what I wanted to dive into today with them,

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Speaker 1: what are the facts, what's real and what's not real

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Speaker 1: about your story, about your relationship, about your love. And

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Speaker 1: so let us begin and joining me now, Larsa and Marcus, Larsa, Pippen,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Jordan, guys, thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you too, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You guys are in Miami together. Correct, obviously we don't

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Speaker 1: have the video for the rest of the world. But

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Speaker 1: you guys, are y' all living together in Miami?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean pretty much. So.

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Speaker 3: I own a retail store actually headquartered out of Orlando.

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Speaker 3: It's only three hours away, and so I'm finding that

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Speaker 3: I'm spending like three and a half weeks in Miami

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Speaker 3: these days, and I get up like a half a week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So can we let's define this relationship? If we're on

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Speaker 1: Facebook right now? How are we defining this?

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Speaker 3: Definitely in a relationship. I can't remember the Facebook status?

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Speaker 1: Are we in love? Are we? Is this a serious relationship?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: I just saw you. I was reading through and I

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Speaker 1: see you know, it's like, well are they aren't they?

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Speaker 1: Is this for real? And so that's the main thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to clear up this is this is legit.

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Speaker 2: This is for real, very much so for real, I think.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the title of our podcast is Separation Anxiety, and

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Speaker 3: you know, we came up with that name because we

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Speaker 3: genuinely experienced separation anxiety when we're not together.

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Speaker 1: I love that. What is the origin story here? When

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Speaker 1: did you guys first meet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We met in La We met at a party four

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Speaker 4: I feel like people think we knew each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is you when people think of you,

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Speaker 1: and whether it's fair or not, you think Scottie pipp

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Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan, you think of the nineties, whether you

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Speaker 1: just watched the documentary or like me, you were a

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Speaker 1: sportscaster back in the nineties. So I think people take

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Speaker 1: this snapshot of you two. But Marcus, clearly you were

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Speaker 1: there in those days with your dad, But Larca, you

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Speaker 4: Well, I was in college when they played together, So

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Speaker 4: I was in college at you. I see Scotty and

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Speaker 4: Michael played together for one year when I was there.

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Speaker 1: College when you and Scotty were dating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so but that was the end that was like late

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Speaker 3: I just think that's a big misconception is that you know,

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Speaker 3: But no, I think you know, obviously she started dating

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Speaker 3: and we met four years ago, and that's really where

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Speaker 1: And but I think it's just the two names. And

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Speaker 1: I know you guys get this.

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Speaker 4: Really honestly, I think that's what's the names. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: They are synonymous with each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like people have their own opinions

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Speaker 3: of what their actual relationship was, and you know that

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Speaker 1: Know, what it really was as far as Scotty and Michael.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the two were intertwined regardless. I mean

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Speaker 1: would be no Scotty. I mean it really was the

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Speaker 1: just without knowing I was doing this with you guys.

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Speaker 1: I just rewatched The Last Dance again, the great documentary

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Speaker 1: on your Dad, and you know, one thing that struck

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Speaker 1: it was the lack of family. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that was meant to be, if that's the way

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Speaker 1: see that side in your relationship and what is your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my relationship with my dad is super tight.

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Speaker 3: I think with regards to the last Dance, I think

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Speaker 3: dynamic of the team, the dynamic and the players and

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Speaker 3: the ownership. Obviously, that documentary took place with regards to

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think that was the focus was

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Speaker 3: we just got back from a trip, a family trip

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Speaker 3: the time, I go play golf at Grove twenty three

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Speaker 3: all the time, so you know, I see him very frequently.

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Speaker 1: What was your because well, Larsa obviously didn't know you

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Speaker 1: you knew Scotty, you were around the franchise, around the

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Speaker 3: No, you know, honestly, my dad's relationship in Scotty's relationship,

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Speaker 3: so even through that dynasty, I was very very young, eight.

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Speaker 3: and so, you know, their relationship was their thing. And

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously as an adult, you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: I didn't really have a relationship with them. That that's

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Speaker 3: you know what Scotty, I should say, that's more you know,

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned you hang out with your dad and

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Speaker 1: I'm dating Scotty's ex wife Larsa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think how we came up

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Speaker 3: originally was through the press, in the media and all

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Speaker 3: of the different levels of interest.

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Speaker 2: When we first started dating, and.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, before we were in dating, we were just friends

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Speaker 3: And I let him know, you know, as it developed

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Speaker 3: just like you know, all of my other siblings, and

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Speaker 1: Larsa, how about you. Did you ever talk to Michael

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I, you know, I feel like I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about us, I don't really I don't

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Speaker 4: Weren't a really good place. We bring out the asked

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Speaker 1: What I found interesting is I was researching you guys.

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Speaker 1: We have a very similar relationship with my fiance. My fiance,

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Speaker 1: Lauren is sixteen years younger than me and you, Larsa,

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Speaker 1: and so I think there is this dynamic. Again. I

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Speaker 1: that's not it at all. There was a twenty six

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Speaker 1: where my fiance and I fall. So, Larsa, I guess

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Speaker 1: my question for you is you've dated an older man,

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Speaker 1: been married to an older man, now you're dating a

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Speaker 1: younger man. Give me the pros and cons here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel I always dated older guys. I never really

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Speaker 4: wanted to date younger guys. I feel like I'm I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's based on the person, you know. I

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Speaker 4: don't really go through a relationship like thinking like, oh

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Speaker 4: he's younger, I shouldn't date him, or you know, I

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Speaker 4: kind of feel like I would date someone twenty years

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Speaker 4: you know, similar interest And I just feel like it

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Speaker 4: just so happens that Marcus and I are together, and

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Speaker 4: you know, we're sixteen years apart, but we have everything

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Speaker 4: in common. I'm sure you find the same thing with

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Speaker 4: your fiancee. It's not really that much of a difference.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if you're doing the same things, it's

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Speaker 1: Should that ruin a relationship, Absolutely not, that would be crazy.

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Speaker 5: It was very late.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have the whole Real Housewives world, Larsa, is

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Speaker 3: I've you know, I was there at the reunion last season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, name value alone. They'd be crazy not to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this reunion.

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Speaker 1: Well, see that just proves that I was not on

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Speaker 4: If you post only fans, it kind of goes away.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's like mainstream.

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Speaker 4: to ask is is Marcus KARENOI does not care.

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Speaker 2: No.

440
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Speaker 3: Look, you know, for me, I want her. She's a strong,

441
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: independent woman. You know, she has her own career, focuses,

442
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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, and so she was doing that

443
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: before we started dating. I would never be the type

444
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Speaker 3: of guy that says, hey, look, now that we're dating,

445
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Speaker 3: you got to mix something.

446
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Speaker 2: You know.

447
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm fully supportive of her, and honestly, I think maybe

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 3: I've taken a picture or two for her just to

449
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: try to help, you know, help keep her keep her

450
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Speaker 3: status on there. So I'm I'm fully supportive of her.

451
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: I love that.

452
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Speaker 1: So you guys just started a new podcast and actually

453
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Speaker 1: launched today. You can find it on UH well where

454
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Speaker 1: you find all podcasts, and you guys are tied into

455
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: iHeart as well. It's a good home. It's called uh

456
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: Separation Anxiety. Yeah, obviously you touched on that a little bit, Marcus.

457
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Speaker 1: About the name came from the fact that when you

458
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 1: guys are apart, you have this separation anxiety. But what

459
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Speaker 1: are you guys diving into together on this show? What

460
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: is the purpose? What do you guys hope to talk about?

461
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for me, I feel like, you know,

462
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 3: the purpose is just to kind of one clear the

463
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Speaker 3: err about a lot of the misconceptions of our relationship.

464
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: But then two, you know, we do feel like, you know,

465
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: age gaps in dating and relationships are a more common

466
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: theme that you see today, and so it's all about

467
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: just putting our perspective out there, you know, talking through

468
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 3: our story and hopefully we help you know, other couples

469
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 3: or people out there and you know, navigate this tricky

470
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Speaker 3: world that we've called twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: These days, I mean, I feel like it's it's been

472
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Speaker 4: fun for us. We enjoy doing it. It's almost like therapeutic.

473
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's like that for you. I

474
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Speaker 4: feel like we just discussed current things that are going

475
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Speaker 4: on in our lives. We talk about basically everything, like

476
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Speaker 4: today we talked about, you know, our age gap. And

477
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Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot of topics that I

478
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Speaker 4: feel like in twenty twenty three that don't really make

479
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Speaker 4: as much of a difference in dating. I feel like,

480
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Speaker 4: you know, people just want to be happy, and I

481
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: feel like everyone just wants to be happy, and like,

482
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Speaker 4: for me, the number one thing is your happiness, protecting

483
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Speaker 4: your mental being in a good place, being with someone

484
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Speaker 4: that makes you feel good because all these other things

485
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Speaker 4: that we deal with on the day to day and

486
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Speaker 4: they're hard. Life was hard in twenty twenty three.

487
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Speaker 1: Sure, I think you guys will find it very cathartic

488
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Speaker 1: and it's interesting. Laura and I will talk about things.

489
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Speaker 1: I'll be in the middle of a conversation and it

490
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Speaker 1: starts heading in a very interesting area and I'm like,

491
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Speaker 1: wa wait, wait, whoa stop, like, save it? Save it

492
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Speaker 1: for the show, because we do. We kind of hash

493
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Speaker 1: everything out on the show. Now, I'll do the interviews

494
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: like I'm doing today, but then we'll do a show

495
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: just to us, and we are We're very similar. And

496
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Speaker 1: I'm inntionted, you know, Marcus, because you are the Lauren

497
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Speaker 1: Zema in this relationship. You are coming into a family.

498
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Speaker 1: You know, Larsa has kids and I know you don't,

499
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Speaker 1: And so what has that been like to try and

500
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Speaker 1: weave yourself into the family that I know it was

501
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: a difficult thing for Lauren to do. She's done it

502
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Speaker 1: brilliantly and my kids love her. But how is the

503
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Speaker 1: process been for you?

504
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Speaker 2: You know? For me, I feel like it's been easy.

505
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: Larsa's like best friends with her kids, with her kids

506
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: and so I think that's one of the things that

507
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Speaker 3: I admire about her both is that, you know, she

508
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 3: just loves her kids. They're best friends, they talk all

509
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: the time, and they're older, and so I feel like,

510
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: for me, you know, my approach is.

511
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Always to be a fly on the wall.

512
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not trying to impose or you know,

513
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: intrude on their space by any means. And with her,

514
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: you know, the way that their friendship is, I feel like,

515
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: you know, I make I chime in and I give my.

516
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Speaker 2: Two cents here and there when when necessary.

517
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Speaker 3: But overall, she's done a great job raising her kids,

518
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Speaker 3: and you know, I think that they've recepted me pretty

519
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: pretty well.

520
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Speaker 5: So I love you.

521
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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I think when you have something,

522
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: when you have everything in common with someone, it makes

523
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Speaker 4: it really easy for the person to come in. And

524
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Speaker 4: I also feel like my kids knew you as my friend,

525
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: so I think it wasn't a lot of times. I

526
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 4: feel like when you meet someone with kids, the kids

527
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: kind of have like a closed door because they don't

528
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: want to see someone new come into the family. But

529
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: because we were friends, I feel like they were already

530
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: like so receptive towards you.

531
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Speaker 1: You never had to really think, Okay, I'm dating this guy,

532
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Speaker 1: is it time to introduce him to the kids. You

533
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: guys were already friends, he'd already met him, so then

534
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: it was just, hey, we've started dating.

535
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's really what it was. And I feel

536
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: like we have so much in common. We like sports,

537
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 4: we like business, we like fashion. I feel like all

538
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: my kids that's kind of like our lane in our homes.

539
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Speaker 4: So I feel like for you, you know, it's hard

540
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: for I feel like, I don't know about you, but

541
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Speaker 4: it's been hard for me to like bring someone new

542
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: into my family because I feel like we're different. You know,

543
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 4: we're different. We're not like regular like I don't know,

544
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: just like we talk about, like, you know, the NBA

545
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: a lot, We talk about sports a lot. Like a

546
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: regular person came into our life. They have to really

547
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 4: be like, what the heck is going on?

548
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Speaker 1: So you do love basketball?

549
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see to be a cheerleader. Yeah, my kids

550
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 4: all played basketball. Yes, like that's kind of our thing.

551
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Speaker 1: Marcus. Obviously with you, I know you played college ball

552
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: before you left and started a business. Did you ever

553
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: think about not going the basketball route? I mean, I

554
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: always think of like, I know Wayne Gretzky, and obviously

555
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: you look at Charlie Woods, you know, Tiger's son, and

556
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, would you play hockey, would you

557
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: play golf? If you're Michael Jordan's kid, would you play basketball?

558
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: Just because of the pressure. Well, look at Bronni right now,

559
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: Lebron James kid, right.

560
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: I think there's just a natural, uh, you know, attitude

561
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: to gravitate towards what you're around. You know, as a kid,

562
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: for me at least, I always grew up around basketball,

563
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: the bulls, my dad, et cetera, and so you know,

564
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: being in Jordan, I'm super competitive, and so I always

565
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 3: wanted to go out and make my own name on

566
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Speaker 3: the basketball court.

567
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: And you know, there were some factors.

568
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: While I was in college to you know that made

569
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: me end up deciding to go to business out. But

570
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: you know, I always naturally gravitated towards the game, and

571
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: my dad was super supportive of you know, if I

572
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: needed help, you know, he was he was always.

573
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: There to help, and et cetera, et cetera.

574
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: So you know, I just feel like it's a natural

575
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: thing as a kid of an athlete to gravitate to

576
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: that sport, and so you know, for me, I ended

577
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: up wanting to, you know, go the business route, and

578
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: I'm happy I did that.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were probably a gym rat, I mean, just

580
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: because you were always.

581
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Speaker 3: At the gym undercent and I mean, you know, playing

582
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: sports as a high school athlete, collegiate athlete, it's a

583
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: full time job, you know, and you're working around the

584
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: clock and training and constantly staying in shape. And so

585
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 3: you know, my senior year, going into my senior year,

586
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: I decided to step away from playing basketball and you know,

587
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: focus on getting my degree. And a year after that,

588
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: I ended up opening my business. And so I'm happy

589
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Speaker 3: I did that.

590
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Speaker 1: I'd be interesting if a guy like Bronni Lebron James Kid,

591
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: or even Charlie Woods would reach out to you and say, hey,

592
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, what's it like, Like what advice do you

593
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Speaker 1: have for me? Like what would you tell Brownie as

594
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: he is about to try and follow in his dad's

595
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: footsteps kind of like you were doing.

596
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell him have fun. You know.

597
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: I think you know, one of the things that I

598
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: didn't listen to when I was in college was that

599
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: it goes by quickly.

600
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: You know, you think that every day.

601
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 3: You know, you're waking up at six am and you know,

602
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: getting home at nine km.

603
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: After practice or whatever.

604
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: You think it's gonna be forever, but in reality it

605
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: goes quickly. And so I would just tell him to

606
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: have fun, enjoy and you know, take it as far

607
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: as you can.

608
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: That is so true. I mean, of all the things.

609
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, whether you're dancing, for whatever you're doing, there

610
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: is this window and you don't and maybe it's a

611
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: good thing that God doesn't give us the ability to

612
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: realize it's going by so fast, so you can enjoy

613
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: it a little bit.

614
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: One per one hundred percent.

615
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you guys wanted to clear

616
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: the air about, anything that you wanted people to know.

617
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: No, I think I think that, you know, I feel.

618
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Speaker 2: Like people there.

619
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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, people think that you and

620
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: to date me because of you know, my.

621
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: Status or wealth or whatever money, And.

622
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: I feel like that's I think you want to date

623
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: me because of my.

624
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 3: Status exactly, And so I think that's like a common

625
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: misconception as well, is that you know, you're some sort

626
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: of gold digger or whatever. In all honesty, she's one

627
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: hundred percent independent and she's got so much going on,

628
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: and you know, she's she's definitely the bread winner over here.

629
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: It is just it is just so intriguing for people.

630
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: I think it's just too tantalizing, especially in this day

631
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: and age of social media, to not just create and

632
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: run with these stories and and it's so easy for people,

633
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you guys have found this. It's so

634
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: easy for people not to do your homework and just

635
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: dig in and look at the facts of it all.

636
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know until I read it, you

637
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: know up on you guys, I had no clue. I

638
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: had no idea until you know, age difference and when

639
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: you guys met and how you you know again, weren't

640
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: babysitting Marcus, et cetera.

641
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of misinformation out there. That's

642
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: kind of where we're excited about our podcast.

643
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

644
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: And I just feel like, you know, it's easy for

645
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: people to throw stones behind the veil of Instagram or

646
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: social media, and so you know, when we're out in public,

647
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: we rarely ever received negative energy.

648
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Has there been anything that's that's hit you guys, that

649
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: was said or done where you're like, you know what

650
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: that that did hurt like that pissed me off.

651
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

652
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm happy, you're happy. We don't really

653
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: like let like people come into our like happy place.

654
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: I think it's both of us being raised in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: We've got tough skin. You know, people talk all the time,

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Speaker 3: and I think we rarely let it get to us.

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Speaker 3: I think there's there's moments where we want to respond

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Speaker 3: just to clear the air in social media. But I'm

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Speaker 3: glad we've got our podcast Separation Anxiety to, you know,

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Speaker 3: to utilize that platform.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's tough in being in Chicago and then there's

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Speaker 1: real housewives tough. So Marcus just be ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trust me, I'm learning on the flot.

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Speaker 1: Larsa's got the playbook. She's got you definitely, she always did.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't ask, are you guys? Is

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Speaker 1: marriage of possibility?

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a possibility. I mean it's on the table.

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Speaker 3: We we haven't really sat down and fully had those

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Speaker 3: types of conversations yet, but it'll happen in near future

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, we're on the way, We're on

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Speaker 1: the way down the aisle. So I wish you guys

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Speaker 1: the best not only together in life, but also with

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Speaker 1: the podcast Separation Anxiety. You can check it out. We're

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Speaker 1: all podcasts are found And next time we do this

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Speaker 1: together in person with a nice glass of wine some

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Speaker 1: tequila and then we go out and play little golf.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely bring the missus on our podcast. We'll make a

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Speaker 3: weekend out of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, it's good to talk to you, Larsa,

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Speaker 1: Marcus shall take.

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Speaker 2: Care alrighty have a good one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my thanks to Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Relationships are so hard. They are difficult in the best

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Speaker 1: of circumstances. Lauren Ziem and I go through this a lot.

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Speaker 1: And it's why related to this relationship so well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but they are doing it on a much deeper and

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Speaker 1: crazier level where an ex husband and a other are

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Speaker 1: two of the most well known individuals in the history

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Speaker 1: of a sport. Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player

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Speaker 1: of all time, his son is dating his ex teammate's

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Speaker 1: ex wife, and so it's just a lot to take in.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate them being patient with all the questions,

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Speaker 1: talking us through it. Speaking you know their truth and

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Speaker 1: their narrative. I really appreciate it. And if I took

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Speaker 1: nothing away from looking at them and spending some time

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Speaker 1: with them today, they really seem like such a genuine,

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Speaker 1: loving couple. The smile on Marcus's face, that's real, that's love.

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Speaker 1: They truly are in love with each other, and I

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Speaker 1: wish them all the best. And again I thank them

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Speaker 1: for their time and most importantly, for their candor, and

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Speaker 1: I thank you for your time. As always, I love

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Speaker 1: shows like this, and I love that we all get

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Speaker 1: to spend this time together. And I will talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time because we have a lot more to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at

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