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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shouler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Monday as unfortunately we must commiserate Chargers twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Steelers ten, and Matt, I think maybe the sad thing

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Speaker 2: is that it didn't even necessarily feel like a two

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Speaker 2: possession game.

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Speaker 3: It felt a little more lobsided than that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, he could take the room and Wilson

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Speaker 4: touchdown out of things, it's a positive. Maybe it's something

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Speaker 4: he can build on, you know, trying to start with

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Speaker 4: a good note. But it was a tough watch, and

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Speaker 4: there's no question about it. Early on, I thought it

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Speaker 4: was very even, and I thought the Steelers and the commentaries,

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Speaker 4: Collinsworth and those guys kept saying, it's like man three

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Speaker 4: or four big plays. The Steelers left meat on the

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Speaker 4: bone early in the game. And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: candy code it. They got beat bad in this game,

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Speaker 4: but it probably goes different if Porter picks up all off,

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Speaker 4: or if you could get them into more past heavy

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Speaker 4: situations because when the I always do a podcast, and

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Speaker 4: the night games are tough, but as soon as the

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Speaker 4: game's over at night, it's like midnight twelve fifteen or whatever,

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Speaker 4: I do a podcast for my basement, and I'll admit,

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Speaker 4: after like a Sunday night loss, much of everything comes

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Speaker 4: out of my mouth is this is bad man.

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Speaker 3: Negative negative, negative. I'm tired.

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Speaker 4: I'm tired, and you know they just got I don't

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Speaker 4: today say I had much easier world than you.

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Speaker 2: Go fifteen yeah, Eastern Standard time today. It was a

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Speaker 2: crowded plane, so I didn't even I didn't even have

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Speaker 3: It was one of my least favorite.

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Speaker 2: Flights I've ever been on in my life.

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody complaining about the flight if it was a win.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure every minute felt like an hour on

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Speaker 4: this flight too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but.

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Speaker 4: As usual, and I always say this when I do

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Speaker 4: that podcast, that the next day I'll be more rational.

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Speaker 4: Bear with me for this one, folks, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's just human nature. I addressed it, I admit it,

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Speaker 4: and they did do some good things. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: reality to me was all right, just go through some things.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like Ecchos had a tough day against mconkie,

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Speaker 4: but that play that kind of broke your back. His

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Speaker 4: coverage was impeccable, and it's an A plus plus throw, okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and Mconkie even got a little fortunate he kind

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Speaker 2: of bobbled it for half a second.

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Speaker 3: It stayed right in his bread back play.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: That's the game of inches, right, and this was not a.

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Speaker 4: Game of inches. This was a game of many yards

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Speaker 4: difference between two teams on a given.

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Speaker 3: Night, snap counts and possession, time of possession.

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Speaker 4: Possession is such a problem. I mean, the doctor's gonna

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Speaker 4: every time we get a doctor with our time possession stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, easy to diagnose at this point.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, now it's the offense's fault. He used to

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Speaker 4: be the defense's fault. It's the offense's fault, so whack

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Speaker 2: Didn't convert a third down until the last five minutes, and.

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Speaker 4: It didn't matter at all, Right, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: That to me is maybe and a game full of

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Speaker 2: glaring and damning stats that might be at the top

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Speaker 2: of the list didn't convert a third down until five

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Speaker 2: fifty five minutes into the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So where's going with this? Was Okay, no unit

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Speaker 4: played great. Bos missed a field goal, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: We all kind of in the booth when that happened

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Speaker 2: looked at each other and we're like, that's a vibe shifter.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's still so early in the game, and

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Speaker 2: it's obviously not Bos's fault, and he's allowed to have

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Speaker 2: from time. Not gonna be perfect every year, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, even Tiger Woods shanked some shots from time

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Speaker 2: to time. Sure, but that one felt like a well man,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's not gonna be our night, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, even like Pursued and I were talking about

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Speaker 3: You get the forty, like let's go, that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: And jumps off side for a while, super excited. It's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 4: that just killed a little bit of that mojo right

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Speaker 4: big picture stuff was Boz misses a field goal, you

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Speaker 4: good at their job, especially Boz. The defense I thought

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Speaker 4: played quite well, but there were holes that there were

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Speaker 4: some big videl holes. And that's gonna happen the longer

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Speaker 4: you're out there, Echoles. I don't say that bad luck.

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Speaker 4: That's too kind. He got out played by McConkie. You didn't.

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Speaker 4: He got picked on. I would like to see more Warren.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's nitpicking stuff, but the reality is

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Speaker 4: the Steeler passing game was horrendous and that's why they lost.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and frankly Rodgers is the biggest culprit for that.

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Speaker 4: He's not alone. I mean, the lack of a second

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Speaker 4: off playing his best game. Metcalf's been a little hit

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Speaker 4: and miss. You know, we can blame things, but Steeler

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Speaker 4: passing game was the anchor here.

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Speaker 2: You know, yes, I think that's kind of a I

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Speaker 2: think that's a fair opening assessment by you here, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And you know what too, it just.

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Speaker 2: After that first drive where they were off okay, and

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Speaker 2: Chargers punter forced a not so great punt yep, and

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Speaker 2: got it at the plus territory at like the forty

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Speaker 4: What more do you want?

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Speaker 2: You got five yards and had to settle for a

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Speaker 3: A fifty nine yard field goal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from from those first two drives and

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Speaker 2: then the safety, which was just bad all around. Bad

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Speaker 2: on pass pro, bad on Aaron, bad on everybody involved.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a horrible play.

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Speaker 2: The offense just after that, I don't even want to

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Speaker 2: say that, like they look shook, they looked rattled.

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Speaker 3: They just never found any momentum, They never found any

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Speaker 3: level footing. Matt.

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Speaker 2: It kind of looked like the first couple of days

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Speaker 2: they were obviously at that point a completely new unit

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Speaker 2: I remember like those first three or four days of

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Speaker 2: It was like those first few days of training camp,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't even find level footing. They couldn't get a

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Speaker 2: first down, they couldn't do anything well other than Jalen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's I think you're one hundred percent dead on.

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Speaker 4: And as you're sitting there talking about it, I'm sitting

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Speaker 4: there thinking, like back in the day when battles were fought,

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Speaker 4: like you go to that side and we go this tide,

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Speaker 4: We're going to shoot each other until we get in

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Speaker 4: the middle, and then we'll stab each other like crazy,

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, right, yeah, or even like yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like, what are you going, I'm going to pick a fight.

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Speaker 4: If exactly, but it feels like your general got whacked

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Speaker 4: way too early. And by that I mean Rogers, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like he I bet I wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: I have great immense respect for Aaron Rodgers, and I'm

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Speaker 4: sure he doesn't think that was his best performance. It wasn't.

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Speaker 4: He played no very long, absolutely at any level. But

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Speaker 4: I bet they felt that in the huddle. I bet

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Speaker 4: that he felt that he wasn't his best. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and everyone points to that guy. You know, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Ben had those days. Brady's had those days, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just you know who your leader is.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But the one thing I will say, though, is

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Speaker 2: that when Ben had a bad day, you still had

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Speaker 2: Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward and Heath Miller had a

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Speaker 2: bad day, good boy still had a B and Lev

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Speaker 2: Bell and Juju and Martavis Bryant. When Aaron has a

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Speaker 2: bad day again, Other than Jalen Warren making making lemonade

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Speaker 2: out of lemons, you don't have much to hang.

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Speaker 3: Your hat on.

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Speaker 4: No, you sure didn't last night.

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Speaker 2: And when Jalen Warren is the only one who's kind

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Speaker 2: of able to, you know, make chicken salad out of

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Speaker 2: chicken scratch, that's not a good place to be. You

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Speaker 2: and I both love Jalen Warren, but when he's when

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Speaker 2: he's your guy, when he's your guy on offense, when

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Speaker 2: he's your best player on offense, that's not a great

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you're saying this either, Like I

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Speaker 4: don't think their offensive players are crappier the worst in

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Speaker 4: the league, or I mean Faltanu, Frasier, you know, tight

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Speaker 4: end Room, Metcalf, et cetera. But who's the elevator and

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Speaker 4: who do you look for when Ben doesn't have his fastball?

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Speaker 4: What was give it? You know? Or run with the

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Speaker 4: lev Bell or we're all run behind Fanica and yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: For a four year slant to a B and he'll

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Speaker 2: he'll find a way to turn it into a forty

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Speaker 4: Or I'm not having my best day, but they still

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Speaker 4: fear all the guys around me more so, I got

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Speaker 4: time to get my footing and those type of things too.

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Speaker 4: And just like you said, I adore Warren. I've been

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Speaker 4: begging for him to get more touch since he's been.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the more underrated players in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but you don't want to be your best guy, correct.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of like I don't want boss

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Speaker 4: me the MVP, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody on YouTube, same charge, different people of the

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Speaker 2: Chris Boswell conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I had to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's Warren's never gonna be last year's Saquon

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Speaker 4: Barkley or right right right. I mean he's a really

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Speaker 4: good player. I love him, But if that's all you

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Speaker 4: have to hang your hat on, you're not going to

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Speaker 4: beat the Chargers. You might beat the Brown.

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Speaker 2: Particular when you're negative three in the turnover department, of course.

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Speaker 2: And I think you're right. I certainly think the Steelers

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Speaker 2: defense held up for long enough.

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Speaker 4: But on the field all the time.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt talked about it after the game too. That's something

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Speaker 2: that they won't publicly state because then that makes it

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Speaker 2: seem like you're throwing your offense under the bus, right,

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Speaker 2: But TJ. Watt saying after the game, like, we can't

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Speaker 2: be we can't be just relying on turnovers. We can't

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Speaker 2: be a defense that sinks or swims with turnovers. We

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Speaker 2: saw that play out last night too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought down to down they were better though.

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Speaker 4: I mean because a lot of the year it was

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Speaker 2: He played well, but he wasn't playing at an all

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Speaker 3: There's nothing we can do about it.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't the jamar Cha situation, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If you guys could get some first downs on offense,

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Speaker 4: and those idel runs and they didn't destroy you, but

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Speaker 2: His longest run of the day was twelve yards, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of good individual defensive performances.

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Speaker 2: You know, I completely agree. Liked what we saw from

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Speaker 3: The nineteen more offensive snaps that the Chargers ran, is

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Speaker 4: It sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: I looked at the stat pack on the plane before

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Speaker 2: I before I got ninety minutes asleep. Okay, they've an

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Speaker 4: Right, it's only worse if you if you don't remedy.

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Speaker 3: That, especially when you have veteran lane defense. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Most of you, most of your best players on defense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and those extra.

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Speaker 4: The categories be bad in that's gonna be one of

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Speaker 3: This extra fifteen to twenty snaps a game.

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Speaker 2: Now, two months into the season, right, that's two hundred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have them to play. Instead of a seventeen

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Speaker 4: One snap is hard to play.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Every snap's a car crash man, Right, Getting into fifteen

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Speaker 3: When you're a veteran defense.

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Speaker 2: When we return on the other side, we will talk

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Speaker 2: to Rob King, the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll

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Speaker 2: Chargers twenty five Steelers ten. A loss for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: on Sunday Night football as they fall to five and four.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this in hour number two, but don't

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Speaker 2: look now, and that division lead is slim as slim

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Speaker 2: could be Kinger. On the other side, it's the Drive

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here as we roll along on Monday,

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Speaker 2: recapping the Steelers' loss on Sunday Night football out there

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Speaker 2: at beautiful Sofi Stadium in beautiful southern California. Joining us

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Speaker 2: now to discuss is the voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: Rob King, and I mean King her. The loss was tough,

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Speaker 2: but was maybe going from seventy five degree weather to

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Speaker 6: Uh no, no, you know, so first of all, I

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Speaker 5: That was my first trip there.

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Speaker 6: Incredible and you know, uh like I have sort of

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Speaker 6: So I get a thrill out of going to like

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Speaker 5: Of games over the years, and even New England, which

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Speaker 6: And then if you're sitting in the stands, you're watching

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Speaker 5: So they were playing football games you know that were

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Speaker 6: Obviously made the night game, so you know, you could

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Speaker 4: But seeing so far, yeah, it was a tough one.

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Speaker 4: I mean like it's been a real whack a mole

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Speaker 5: I never know whether you're better off having one problem

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Speaker 6: For a bunch of little things to clean up. I think, Matt,

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Speaker 4: You know, time of possession to me is their biggest problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I look back to the game against Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 6: you like to rise up and make a stop there

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Speaker 6: in a way, they're like you know, body blows that

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Speaker 5: Match, right, they don't, They.

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Speaker 5: And I just think that if I was going to

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Speaker 6: One issue with the Steelers, you know, you say, well,

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Speaker 6: Watte evidently said last and I didn't. I didn't see

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Speaker 5: That's difficult to do.

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Speaker 6: If you get leads and if you control the clock

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Speaker 5: I think that's the root a lot of a lot.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to oversimplify it, but I think that's

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Speaker 6: They've they've just got to stop going three and out

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Speaker 4: Like if a genie came out of a bottle right

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I might be like, give me

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Speaker 6: Yes, I agree, yeah, because like I said, I think

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Speaker 6: and I think it's the one thing you can say.

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Speaker 5: We could say, well, we need better play here, better

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Speaker 6: The receivers need to get whatever, whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of that is cured if you

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Speaker 6: that's gonna play better when it's rested. All those things

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Speaker 5: More first downs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's just stop going three and out.

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Speaker 5: You know, varied a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Even if you go six and out, at least that's

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Speaker 6: I think if I was going to grant one wish,

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomin was asked last night, Hey, how come you

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Speaker 5: It was effective? Well, it was effective, but it's chicken

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Speaker 6: In order to run the ball more, you got to

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Speaker 5: They weren't going to run the ball their last couple

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Speaker 4: So I've been getting that question all and I'm sure

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Speaker 4: or you know, Boyd, let's throw the Rowan Wilson, we

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Speaker 5: You know, exactly right, it really is a small time

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Speaker 5: and right you, Jayleen.

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Speaker 6: Warton is just the latest example that last night, that question,

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Speaker 6: and you know, Mike tom Was was frustrated. He said, yeah,

440
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Speaker 6: We've been over this ground. When you only run a

441
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Speaker 6: minimal amount of plays, there's only going to be a

442
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Speaker 6: minimal amount of ball to go around, right, So yeah,

443
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Speaker 6: I think that's I think that's the root of the issues.

444
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Speaker 6: And listen, either fix it or you don't. I mean,

445
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Speaker 6: you know, the beauty about the NFL, the.

446
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Speaker 5: Beauty about any sport is you got to go out

447
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Speaker 5: and play, and you got to go out and win, right,

448
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Speaker 5: That's it. That's the bottom line.

449
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Speaker 6: And as soon as it's done a nice job of

450
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Speaker 6: working around that up to this point of the season,

451
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Speaker 6: you know, of taking advantage of the turnovers, of the

452
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Speaker 6: offense being more opportunistic than overpowering. I mean, they were

453
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Speaker 6: what twenty you know, something like twenty eighth or twenty

454
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Speaker 6: seventh in yards per game, but I think they were

455
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Speaker 6: thirteenth in points per game, so they were taking advantage

456
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Speaker 6: of things.

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Speaker 5: Well, you also have to be able to create on.

458
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Speaker 6: Your own, right, you can't just and again I keep

459
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Speaker 6: saying I've said this earlier. If you create on your own,

460
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Speaker 6: you will then get more turnovers to take advantage of,

461
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Speaker 6: you know. So I just think that that's to me,

462
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Speaker 6: that's what it boils down to a lot.

463
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Speaker 5: The offense has got to do. It's got to pick

464
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Speaker 5: up a larger share right now.

465
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Speaker 4: So I just looked it up Brom and this probably

466
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Speaker 4: won't shock you or anybody, and it's not much different

467
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Speaker 4: than last week when we talked about it. But I

468
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Speaker 4: just did offensive plays per game, and the site that

469
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Speaker 4: I use updated this morning, so it got all yesterday's games,

470
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Speaker 4: didn't get tonight's game. Chargers lead the league sixty six

471
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Speaker 4: offensive plays per game. That's number one. Steelers are thirty second,

472
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Speaker 4: fifty five plays per game. That's behind Miami, Baltimore, Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I mean there again, eleven plays on the surface might

474
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Speaker 2: not seem like a ton, but when it's over the

475
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Speaker 2: course of ten games.

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Speaker 3: Over they played.

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Speaker 4: Games, right, right, or seventeen games, that's one hundred and

478
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Speaker 4: seventy games or one hundred and seventy plays, that's three

479
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Speaker 4: extra games you have to play. That's like a twenty

480
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Speaker 4: game season for your defense. Right.

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Speaker 6: That's a really good way of framing it, and absolutely right,

482
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Speaker 6: and it's why you know, Okay, so why is the

483
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Speaker 6: defense gassed and you're giving up a lot of points

484
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Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter?

485
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Speaker 5: That's statistic too. There's one reason, huge, why aren't you

486
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Speaker 5: scoring more pan points?

487
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Speaker 6: There's one reason why isn't warren't getting more rushes? There's

488
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Speaker 6: one reason It all comes back to that reason, right,

489
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Speaker 6: A lot of it, now, not all of it. You

490
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Speaker 6: can't explain everything on that, but you know it's not

491
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Speaker 6: a one it's not.

492
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Speaker 5: A cure all. But I think it's a cure a lot,

493
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Speaker 5: I really do.

494
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Speaker 4: And it's a team stat though. Like West and I

495
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: have been talking about this all year. You go into

496
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Speaker 4: the doctor and say, my time in possession hurts and

497
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Speaker 4: he's like, well, you should run the ball better and

498
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Speaker 4: stop the run.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's a symptom.

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Speaker 4: Let's yeah, exactly exactly, you know. So, I mean earlier

501
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: season was the defense couldn't get off the field. Lately

502
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Speaker 4: the offense can't sustain drives, you know.

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, and you know I thought in particular, and

504
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Speaker 6: this was what you know, as I was looking at

505
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Speaker 6: that first Jets game, no harmon, remember that the last

506
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Speaker 6: image we have with the Steelers is the Eagles and

507
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Speaker 6: the Ravens just running all over them. The Jets are

508
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Speaker 6: built that way. What are they going to do even

509
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Speaker 6: with an injury. They're going to run the ball right

510
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Speaker 6: at the Steelers and they were able to do it successfully.

511
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Speaker 6: And then you know Seattle, uh, you know, they they've

512
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Speaker 6: got to Soli all.

513
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Speaker 5: The round game.

514
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Speaker 6: But early on I thought that would be you know,

515
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Speaker 6: you have Jacksonsville, the James Evan sensationally, you're so Sam

516
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Speaker 6: Darnold two for that matter. But I figured that that

517
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 6: would be that would be their approach. And then when

518
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Speaker 6: the students began to get some more balanced team, they

519
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 6: ripped off four games in a row, doing a really

520
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Speaker 6: good job defensively, a really good job against the run.

521
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Speaker 6: And then you know, at two out of the last

522
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Speaker 6: three games, and I'll even say two and a half.

523
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Speaker 5: Out of the last three games, because you know what

524
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Speaker 5: I should say two and a half.

525
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Speaker 6: Out of the last four games, right, So for half,

526
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Speaker 6: you did a great job against the Packers. In the

527
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Speaker 6: second half, Emanuel Wilson, wasn't Jacobs that killed you, as

528
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Speaker 6: Emmanuel Wilson against Cincinnati was Chase Brown.

529
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Speaker 5: You did a great job against Taylor, but they ran the.

530
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Speaker 6: Ball more successfully than I would have liked last night

531
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Speaker 6: with Videll. So you know, I thought the trend was

532
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Speaker 6: in the right direction, and I think that they did

533
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Speaker 6: a lot of those things in the last in those

534
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Speaker 6: four weeks. And it's Cincinnati. You can't blame that on

535
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Speaker 6: the offense. I don't think, say, well, Chase Brown ran

536
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: the ball because the Steelers defense was exhausted. So it's

537
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Speaker 6: like you said, it's not just one thing, but I.

538
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Speaker 5: Leaned toward that being. You know, overall, if we're looking at.

539
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Speaker 6: This this team through nine games, that's the one right

540
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Speaker 6: there that let's get some more first downs.

541
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Speaker 5: Here few were three and outs, they know that.

542
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Speaker 6: You know, After a while, I begin to wonder if

543
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 6: it's a little bit like a guy in a slump.

544
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: You know now they always say he squeezing the bat

545
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Speaker 6: and baseball.

546
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Speaker 3: The club two tight king er as you approach the fair.

547
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you you need to.

548
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Unfortunately, my iron play was atrocious this year anyway,

549
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 6: so you know, uh, it's uh, you wonder if it's

550
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Speaker 6: you know, like a self manifesting sort of thing.

551
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Speaker 5: So I don't know, I don't know what the answer is.

552
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Speaker 5: I just know that I.

553
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Speaker 6: Truly believe that if they get more first down and listen,

554
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Speaker 6: that was a that was.

555
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Speaker 5: A bad game last year.

556
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Speaker 4: Last night.

557
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Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers has been fantastic, way better than

558
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 6: I think most people expected him to be. That wasn't

559
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 6: his sharpest game. He wasn't the only one to blame.

560
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Speaker 6: But he's got broad shoulders. He took it out himself

561
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 6: last night. He wasn't sharp, I think that, you know,

562
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Speaker 6: And they were mitigating circumstances.

563
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 5: Guys. You know, every once in a.

564
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Speaker 6: While you got to you got to help out a

565
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 6: guy too, you know, And the students didn't do that

566
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Speaker 6: particularly well.

567
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Speaker 5: It's a game that I would like to.

568
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Speaker 6: Say it was a one off because it's the one

569
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Speaker 6: game this year where that's really happened, that really hasn't

570
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Speaker 6: happened all year. So let's hope it's a one off

571
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Speaker 6: and then he can get back to scoring some point

572
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Speaker 6: and hopefully sustaining some drives against the Bengals.

573
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Speaker 2: The good news is the defense coming up. That's right

574
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Speaker 2: for the picking. That's the good news.

575
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Speaker 4: It's even worse than you saw him last time, by

576
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Speaker 4: the way.

577
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Speaker 6: This defense, Yeah, but the problem is that offense is

578
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 6: better than it than any we've seen, maybe except for

579
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Speaker 6: the Colts.

580
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Speaker 5: Actually lately, it's even better than the Colts. So and

581
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 5: we saw it that was at.

582
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Speaker 6: The head of this little stagger that hopefully it's just

583
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 6: a stagger, and the Steelers right themselves.

584
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: And uh and and you know, walk the path confidently

585
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: towards the playoffs in AFR title.

586
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Speaker 6: But you know, listen, the other thing is that while

587
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 6: you've been losing games and Cincinnati's lost too in Row.

588
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: Think about that right now after Cincinnati, right.

589
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 6: And and they totally completely blew that game.

590
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 5: That the last game. They're one game out. If they

591
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Speaker 5: if they win.

592
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Speaker 6: One of the last two games in which they scored

593
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 6: what eighty points and lost them both. You know, if

594
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 6: you win either one of those games, you're tied with

595
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Speaker 6: the Ravens.

596
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Speaker 5: Uh, you beat your You're two and oh in the division.

597
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: You know. But even so, with only two games out,

598
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: don't you think they're thinking.

599
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, we got new life, Burrow's back in practice.

600
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 5: We win yeah, right right, we win.

601
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 6: This game against the Steelers. We got the hope in

602
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 6: the form of Burrow coming back. Hey, worldly, one game

603
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 6: out of first place, regardless of what the Ravens do,

604
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 6: you still got to play the Ravens.

605
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: Suddenly you're like you're the Bengals.

606
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 6: You're like, hey man, we we don't necessarily our destiny

607
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 6: because you can only pull within a game of the students,

608
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 6: but we feel pretty good about our chances of winning.

609
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if seven and ten wins the division,

610
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 6: something's gonna win the division and someone's gonna get to

611
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: the playoffs. And if you're the Bengals, you're you've been

612
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 6: kind of dragged into.

613
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Speaker 5: This thing, you know, as much as you tried not

614
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Speaker 5: to be in it. Right now, going into the Sunday game,

615
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 5: you gotta think you're in it.

616
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Speaker 2: Rob King voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Hey Keger, before

617
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Speaker 2: we let you go real quick, because I told Matt

618
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Speaker 2: I bring this up at some point today before I forget.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Pretty pretty uh pretty cool scene Saturday night at the

621
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Speaker 2: second floor in Huntington Beach where we did our PEP

622
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Speaker 2: rally show. I mean, the second we got off the shuttle,

623
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Speaker 2: we were getting shout outs from people and high fives

624
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Speaker 2: and fist bumps and asking for pictures and and all

625
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: that stuff. And then, of course, you know, about an

626
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 2: hour after us, Ryan Shazer shows up and it just

627
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: turns into an absolute mob scene. One thing about Steeler Nation, man, is,

628
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: is you tell them when and where and they show up,

629
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Speaker 2: you say jump and they ask how high and uh,

630
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Speaker 2: and it was pretty cool to just have so many people, uh,

631
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Speaker 2: you know, talking about loving what we do here. On

632
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio network and listening to us every day

633
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: and and all that kind of stuff.

634
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Speaker 6: It's incredible. I mean, it was just Heeler's crowd last night.

635
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 6: They just didn't give enough to cheer for. When James

636
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: Pierre Pile drove Darius Davis on a jet suite, the

637
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 6: crowd rose to their feet.

638
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: Cowels were swirling. It was like a home game. The reaction.

639
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Speaker 5: It was incredible.

640
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: It's like Wreussell mano out there. Brother.

641
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: It was great.

642
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Speaker 6: And I've said this to people before, like the day

643
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Speaker 6: that I don't I actually on the bus and I

644
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: don't know, maybe, you know, hopefully there's a psychiatrist listing

645
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 6: it thinks I need an evaluation. But I'll be sitting

646
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Speaker 6: by my and you know, I'm sitting in my seat

647
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 6: and we're going to the game, and I'll like giggle

648
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 6: every time we go to the game because there's Steelers

649
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 6: fans walking the sidewalks and whatever opposing town we're in,

650
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: you know, waving their towels, taking pictures, giving the thumbs up.

651
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: And then you pull into the stadium, whatever stadium there is.

652
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Speaker 6: You know, you know, even as I've said before, even

653
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: the opposing team acknowledging that the Steelers are number one.

654
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 6: They're fans, you know, raising the wrong finger, raising the

655
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: wrong finger. They don't know which finger to raise when

656
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 6: they're telling us the Steelers number one.

657
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Speaker 5: But then right next to them, the Steelers tailgate. They

658
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Speaker 5: got the Powells waving. It's it's, you know, you.

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Speaker 6: Leave the hotel and and there's mobs of fans at

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Speaker 6: whatever hotel the Steelers are at, you know, cheering the

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Speaker 6: team on, you know, hanging out in the lobby hoping

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Speaker 6: to get.

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Speaker 5: A glimpse of you know, t J. Watt or Jalen

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Speaker 5: Ramsey or Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's incredible, man. And that event, you know, uh,

666
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Speaker 6: you go and they're just the energy they bring.

667
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Speaker 5: And you know, we had a we had a group.

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Speaker 6: Of fans they're from Mexico, right, and and another group

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Speaker 6: from from northern California. They were in New York for

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Speaker 6: the Jets Rally.

671
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Speaker 3: For our Jets Road Warriors show.

672
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Speaker 5: California for the California Rally.

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Speaker 6: So I know, you know, people say, oh, this Jeers

674
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Speaker 6: fans travel well, and other people say, wow, they don't

675
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 6: travel well, they live there. Well, there's both are true

676
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 6: and both can be true. Yes, Steelers fans left in

677
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Speaker 6: the seventies with the economic hardships, and and they've kept

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Speaker 6: their fandom, God bless them throughout the country. But they're

679
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Speaker 6: traveling too. It's both, and it's it's it's a joy to.

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Speaker 5: Be part of.

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Speaker 4: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Certainly is certainly you should have seen Rob king Man.

683
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's paparazzi was out. He was taking taking

684
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: so many pictures and shaking so many hands and kissing

685
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Speaker 2: so many babies.

686
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Speaker 5: Standing behind West and Missy Missy.

687
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Speaker 2: My goodness, Missy actually was the star of the show.

688
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted a picture with Missy.

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Speaker 6: I tell you, yeah, getting brushed aside, I felt you

690
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Speaker 6: were getting brushed off.

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Speaker 5: So then thinking get yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 6: Dog was wonderful, and and Ryan chaz Ear was fantastic

693
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Speaker 6: and you know what a great ambassador for this year

694
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Speaker 6: that totally gets it. Stood there, patiently, took all the

695
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Speaker 6: pictures with all the fans, gabbed. He would have stayed

696
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Speaker 6: there all night if they let him. I mean, seriously,

697
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Speaker 6: he's he was. He's a great ambassador too.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, great event. Everything was wonderful right up until uh,

699
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Speaker 5: right up until they played unfortunately. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now then we got to sit on the shuttle for

701
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Speaker 2: seventy minutes with with Shazyer and talk a little college

702
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Speaker 2: football to put a to put a cap on the night.

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Speaker 3: It was delightful.

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Speaker 6: Oh he and his buddy uh with Wes Matt it

705
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Speaker 6: should I wish we had some kind of podcast camera up.

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Speaker 5: It was priceless, you know.

707
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Speaker 6: Ryan Chazyer sticking up for the Big ten, his buddy

708
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Speaker 6: tell him the SEC is better West, fuel on the

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Speaker 6: fire with the occasional fact check.

710
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Speaker 5: H We had to show there we had a show

711
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 5: in the making. It's highly entertaining.

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Speaker 2: We'll launch that podcast next year. Rob King, hey man,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much. Get some rest, all right, we'll talk

714
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Speaker 2: to you soon.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: Doctor you there he goes king in the castle.

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Speaker 2: He definitely slept less than me because he had to

718
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Speaker 2: do DVE and he's been on your Guys show.

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Speaker 4: Radio all morning. Yeah, he definitely slept lessing yea, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Him and hanging it up with him and I were

721
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Speaker 2: like walking to our cars at like six point thirty

722
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Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, Pursuit is getting ready to

723
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Speaker 2: do his first sports hit here in a second.

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Speaker 3: We haven't even gone to bed.

725
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Speaker 2: Yet we'll close down the first hour, continue to just

726
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Speaker 2: dissect everything from a disappointing Sunday night out on the

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Speaker 2: coast West. Huler, Matt Williamson. It's the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the first hour on a commiseration Monday,

732
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Speaker 2: as the Steelers fall to five and four and now

733
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Speaker 2: just have a one game lead a top of the

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Speaker 2: AFC north West Hueler Matt Williamson with you here on

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Speaker 2: the drive. All right, Matt, to close down the first hour. Here,

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Speaker 2: I got a kind of pretty simple question for you,

737
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Speaker 2: follows up on what we've been spending a lot of

738
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Speaker 2: the first you know, forty minutes or so the show

739
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Speaker 2: talking about here be doctor Williamson for me here for

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Speaker 2: a minute, okay, and the Steelers offense comes into your practice. Yeah,

741
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: and they sit down and they go, we got this

742
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Speaker 2: time of possession issue, we got this snap issue. You know,

743
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Speaker 2: our opponents are running ten to fifteen more offensive plays

744
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Speaker 2: in US per game, sometimes twenty. We were just out

745
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Speaker 2: in La Doctor and the other offense possessed the ball

746
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Speaker 2: for over fifteen minutes more than.

747
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Speaker 4: We did, right, and this is it can be common.

748
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Speaker 2: What's our how do how do we've diagnosed it?

749
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Speaker 3: How do we start to fix it? What's the doctor just.

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Speaker 4: On the offensive side of the ball. Because I mean,

751
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Speaker 4: over the course of the year, this is a team

752
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: probam and and it always is. I mean for much

753
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Speaker 4: of the year, I would have blamed the defense more

754
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Speaker 4: than I would have blamed the off.

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Speaker 3: I think, particularly like the month of September right up through.

756
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Speaker 4: The last two weeks, the offense is really trended poorly.

757
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: And I know they beat the Colts and that got

758
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Speaker 4: kind of swept under the rug on you know, victory

759
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: Monday one week ago, but the offense was not humming.

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Speaker 3: Means they got set up by the defense of the

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Speaker 3: last short field, right.

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Speaker 4: So this is a something that's been coming around for

763
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Speaker 4: a while now. I have more when if we If

764
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Speaker 4: you would have asked me that question a month ago

765
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Speaker 4: and said, fix the defense to get them off the field,

766
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Speaker 4: I have more answers.

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Speaker 3: Given up too many third down conversions?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, play more zone. It's less you know,

769
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Speaker 4: some of the things they consistent game, you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: rotate more dudes in you know, I mean I have

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Speaker 4: fewer answers for the offense though, because one thing I

772
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: think that needs to happen that could actually hurt this

773
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Speaker 4: conversation is I think they have to push the ball

774
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Speaker 4: down the field a little bit more now, you know,

775
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Speaker 4: if they were, if it was last year, I might

776
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Speaker 4: be like, we don't need all the russ moonballs. How

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: about more of a short controlled passing game to how

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Speaker 4: about some five to play off our running game and

779
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: eat clock that way? And I don't think it's a

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Speaker 4: one for one of the short passing games extension of

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Speaker 4: the run game. It's not. I mean, I forget what

782
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 4: I think I was with Tom doing the pregame show.

783
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: You know that he hates that too, that you know,

784
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: just just throw a lot of short passes. That's the

785
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 4: same as running the ball. No, it's not often both, right,

786
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: I mean offensive line going backwards in the passing there

787
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Speaker 4: not come off the ball and blasting dudes and wearing

788
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: them down. That those are body blows. Yes, it helps

789
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Speaker 4: your time possession. Get the ball in Friar Move's hand

790
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Speaker 4: on a tight end screen and he doesn't go out

791
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Speaker 4: of bounds that eats much time. Sure, okay, I mean,

792
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Speaker 4: but it doesn't on first down, but doesn't bludgeon the

793
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: opponent like Jerome bettis behind a full back and Dermoni

794
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Speaker 4: Dawson and you know, I mean, you know, the big.

795
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor just moralizing the Falcons over in Berlin for

796
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Speaker 2: three and a half hours.

797
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Speaker 4: So I don't have a wonderful answer, because I definitely

798
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 4: think playing with a lot of tight ends on the field,

799
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: playing with the extra offensive lineman, all those things are

800
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: moving the right direction. Less zone runs, more power and

801
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 4: man blocking schemes. All that stuff's trending the right direction.

802
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: And I'm not just blaming Rogers, but I am kind

803
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 4: of on a little bit of a soap box in

804
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Speaker 4: terms of run pass ratio that I bet Rogers is

805
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: checking to a pass a lot, and he's so smart.

806
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: I do not want to neuter him in any way.

807
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: That he's had a ton of success doing that for

808
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Speaker 3: twenty years.

809
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: A million years. And again I feel like I'm picking

810
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: on him when he's down, and that's not what I

811
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: mean at all. But when the second half of the

812
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: Packers game, Warn't only gets three carries, there's probably some

813
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty situations where Rogers decides to pass rather

814
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Speaker 4: than run. You know, maybe you just have a heart

815
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Speaker 4: to him and Arthur are go in a room and say,

816
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: let's just lean more run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got it, especially situationally we're up

818
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: nine points out of a halftime.

819
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Speaker 3: With the football right right, it's fifty to fifty. Run

820
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Speaker 3: the ball.

821
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know this look isn't as great for

822
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Speaker 4: the run or you know, if it's fifty one forty nine.

823
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Speaker 3: You know, and want to make somebody miss.

824
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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's when in doubt, let's I don't mean to

825
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: you know, newter you at all, Aaron, But when in doubt,

826
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Speaker 4: maybe we run the football a three percent more, five

827
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Speaker 4: percent more, something like that. And I blame Rogers or

828
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: mention him more than I do Arthur Smith. Really for

829
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Speaker 4: one reason, both these guys have been doing their job

830
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: for a long time, and running the ball less has

831
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: never been a problem for Arthur's Smith or running the

832
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 4: ball the other way around. One guy's history is run, run, run.

833
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: One guy's history right right right. You know. So I'm

834
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Speaker 4: just I'm not behind the scenes, I'm not in those

835
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: offensive meetings, but I bet when the play comes in

836
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: and then the when it's distributed to the other ten

837
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage, it might be a little

838
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: past happier than it should be. But I'm reaching. I mean,

839
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: the offense to me doesn't have a quick fix, and

840
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean it can't get better because it has

841
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: been better. I mean, like they run the ball, okay,

842
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: I mean I don't think they have terrible players on

843
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: that side of the ball. You're not gonna trade, I

844
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: mean I could go trade for a wide receiver. That's

845
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: the answer, right, Yeah, yeah.

846
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're working with what you got at this point.

847
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: You know, you're the And.

848
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Speaker 4: I'll think about it more this week. Monday questions and

849
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Speaker 4: when sure we get.

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Speaker 2: Watch the game tonight? Yeah, me be too, right, put

851
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: the kids down, rewatch the game, and then and then

852
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: flip the Monday Night football. But yeah, it's kind of like,

853
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a big Matt like I watch sports and

854
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: like occasional good TV shows. You know, I'm not someone

855
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: who like watches a million different things on TV. So

856
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: I hope this analogy lands. You know, like in cooking shows,

857
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: there's a bazillion different cooking shows, but some of them

858
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: the premise is you get all you get four or

859
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: five chefs and it's like, bang, here's the three ingredients

860
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Speaker 2: you have make dinner and you have twenty.

861
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Speaker 3: Minutes to do it.

862
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know what the ingredients are going to

863
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: be like, and here's the ingredients.

864
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Here's the practice.

865
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Speaker 5: Right.

866
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: They can't run to the fridge and get more chicken

867
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Speaker 2: breasts or get peppers or mushrooms or you know whatever kind.

868
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Speaker 4: Of six zero line sets all week to use against.

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Speaker 2: The charge you you right now on offense, here's your ingredients.

870
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Speaker 3: That's what you got. There's no walk in cooler where

871
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: you can go get more at this point.

872
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: Right, you know. And anything we're gonna take ingredients from

873
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Speaker 4: you is the year goes on totally.

874
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: And that's the man, that's the scary part to think

875
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: about it.

876
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: If you get a couple of guys banged up, and

877
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: that's the that's the challenge to me right now, because

878
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: you have talent on that offense, absolutely, but it's also

879
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: not the killer b era of where your Jimmy's are

880
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: so much better than so many of the opposition's Joe's.

881
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, you got Ben and Bell and a B

882
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: and a great.

883
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: And Juju or you're like fourth and fifth pass catchers

884
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 4: and Heith Miller. I'm like, those are the guys down

885
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: the line.

886
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: Correct, that's not bad.

887
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Correct, And so to me, now it has to get

888
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: back to doing what you've done best when your ingredients

889
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: have you know, yielded the best meal.

890
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: And that's been running the football with Jalen Warren.

891
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: That's been getting your tight ends active, I think, particularly

892
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Darnell Washington, and they got to find a way to

893
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: put DK Metcalf in a better position to succeed.

894
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: I think as well too.

895
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: Like two, I think there's been a little too much

896
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: and this is probably recent history, just over the last

897
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, because DK Metcalf did have some monster

898
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: performances this season, no doubt, but I think they're square

899
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: pegging round holing with him. A little too much, little

900
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: too much fifty to fifty contested balls, a little too

901
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: much back back shoulder stuff.

902
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: That's just because he's big.

903
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: That fourth that fourth down back shoulder pass last night,

904
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: that's not his strength.

905
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: That's all he does well. He runs past people, he

906
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: runs over people, he does a lot of things really

907
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: really well. But just because he's big doesn't mean that

908
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: he high points footballs like he's George Pickens or Rothgerald.

909
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: You know, I do that.

910
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: If I've got Sam and Matt, I can't try and

911
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: prepare it like it's a pork shoulder.

912
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, So as you were saying that,

913
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: I bet if Wolf or Merrill Hodge was sitting right here,

914
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 4: and frankly, if Chuck Nole was sitting right and I

915
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: know this is not nineteen seventy eight anymore nineteen eighty five,

916
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: but those guys would always say, which is just directly

917
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: from Knowle being coached by Chuck Nole, is when things

918
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 4: were going wrong on offense, we would get back to

919
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: our two or three best run plays. Yeah, it's just

920
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: instead of looking at the cheesecake factory menu, we're gonna

921
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: make the steak that we made for a million years

922
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: that we're good at, and we're gonna start from potatoes.

923
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: We're going to start from there. It doesn't mean that's

924
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: all we're going to run, but we're going to start

925
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: with our best run play and go from there, and

926
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: then we'll start building again.

927
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: You know.

928
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: Yep, I think that logic.

929
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of merit to that. Yeah,

930
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: build off of that getting your tight ends involved off

931
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: of play action and things like that.

932
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you build off of that I.

933
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: And yeah, one more layer, one more layer. But let's

934
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: get what is our thing that we do the best

935
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: in the ground game on offense?

936
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: Ribi baked potato, Yeah, green beads.

937
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: Maybe this and whatever it is, whatever you're best at

938
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be you know, And that's that's a nullism.

939
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: You know.

940
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: By the way, food it so far outstanding.

941
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: You took a picture of like the candy situation, that

942
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: was just the candy situation, Yeah, which was pretty sure.

943
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: Boxes and boxes of nerds, gummy clusters. Of course, that's

944
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: why I had to send you guys the pictures. But

945
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: all the can in the world that you could imagine.

946
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: The food was outstanding. It was like steak and meat

947
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: loaf and potatoes and green beans.

948
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: Are they the best host in the in the league?

949
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 4: When you talk about the venue, the house they invite

950
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: you to the dinner they give you.

951
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some good ones. You know, I love

952
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: you know, I love Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta serves this flank

953
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: steak with chimney cherry sauce for every game and it

954
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: is maybe the best single menu item that I've had

955
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: around the league. Wings in Buffalo are good. Crabcakes and

956
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Baltimore are good. But so far just yeah, from the

957
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: house that they invite a good way to put it.

958
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: From the house that they invite you to. From the

959
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: food that they serve you halftime as well to it's

960
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: like chicken and cheeseburger sliders, nice, with like seven different

961
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: kinds of French fries, whatever french fry you could imagine, wedges,

962
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: curly fries, tater tots, they got it all.

963
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's true here, but the halftime

964
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: stuff's usually a little more lunch, yes, basic, Yes, a

965
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: little bit cheaper, I mean it's not.

966
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: And then after the game, after the game, in and

967
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: out food truck too, so like they're making the burgers

968
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: right off the food truck and it's not like they've

969
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: been sitting in a box for like an hour.

970
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: It's not the box lunch.

971
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: They got the food truck and they're like, whoop, you

972
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: want the animal sauce on that?

973
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: Here you go. Okay, that was that was much needed.

974
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: Getting on the plane.

975
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: It was like a burger that was next to an apple.

976
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cheese has been melted into the plastic

977
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: for two hours while it's sitting there all soggy.

978
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: No, it was. It was delicate, just for you, Wesley.

979
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: Throw it right at you right here.

980
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: Now go away, or I will punch you a second time.

981
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: French fries or not, And I bet you we'll get

982
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of tweets about this because in and out

983
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: splits a crowd.

984
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: French fries are not the best there, But man, they're burgers.

985
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: I don't know it well.

986
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: Have you ever ever had it before?

987
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Or no? No, it's not an Indy that's White Castle. Yes,

988
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: it's like that. It's like Vegas and California and Arizona.

989
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: I've definitely not been. I've heard of tons about it.

990
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: But okay, fries are like a three out of ten,

991
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: not very good. I don't know why. I think they

992
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: do them in like a healthier oil or something, you know,

993
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: West West Coast some something goofy West coastyle. But their

994
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: burgers are delicious and so yeah, I would highly recommend.

995
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: You know, Steelers are out there. Every couple of years.

996
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: I was texting my buddies Matt, like we should go

997
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: to a World Cup game out here next year, Like

998
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: let's let's you know next year when the World Cups

999
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: in the United States this coming summer, Like, yeah, let's

1000
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: fly out to California for three or four days go

1001
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: to a World Cup game at so far that would

1002
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: be amazing, definitely, definitely worth the trip. And like I said,

1003
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: it was kind of a harsh reality of you know,

1004
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: you leave seventy some degree weather, sunny, palm trees, and

1005
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: you land and like, I'm slowing down on seventy nine

1006
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: because it's snowing at seven am and rush hour traffic's hitting,

1007
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me, man, Just

1008
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: let me get home.

1009
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, winter is coming.

1010
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: Winter is coming.

1011
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the dead are coming over the ice wall

1012
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: here pretty soon if you don't nip it in the bud.

1013
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, good lord.

1014
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: And they're wearing they're wearing Bengal uniforms and dressed in

1015
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: orange and coming to the North Shore in just a

1016
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: few days. One hour in the books, another hour to go.

1017
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: We will continue to break this. Get some some some

1018
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: just final regurgitation of thoughts before we go around the league,

1019
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: uh and take it. Take a look as well to

1020
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: Matt Big Monday night football game tonight between the Packers

1021
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: and the Eagles. That's a five star matchup tonight.

1022
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: We'll get it all that, yeah.

1023
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: Brian Dabele, all that more. An Hour Number two was

1024
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: Shuler Matt Williamson. You are tuned into the Drive on

1025
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.