1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:24,596 Speaker 1: Pushkin. About a year ago, I heard about this guy, 2 00:00:24,876 --> 00:00:29,276 Speaker 1: a former FBI agent named Ned Timmins, and Ned he 3 00:00:29,396 --> 00:00:33,316 Speaker 1: had this crazy story I almost couldn't believe. It went 4 00:00:33,436 --> 00:00:36,316 Speaker 1: something like this back in the eighties and Ned was 5 00:00:36,316 --> 00:00:39,916 Speaker 1: a rookie at the FBI, and one night he arrests 6 00:00:39,916 --> 00:00:43,876 Speaker 1: a fugitive at this biker bar and I just lean 7 00:00:43,956 --> 00:00:47,196 Speaker 1: up to his ear and said, Toby FBI, and Nin 8 00:00:47,276 --> 00:00:50,676 Speaker 1: he goes, fuck you. Turns out this guy, Toby, has 9 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:54,196 Speaker 1: some connections in the criminal underworld, and that's Ned's in. 10 00:00:54,676 --> 00:00:57,356 Speaker 1: He goes undercover with a biker gang, learns how to 11 00:00:57,436 --> 00:01:00,996 Speaker 1: ride a Harley, grows a Fu Manchu mustache, and well 12 00:01:01,396 --> 00:01:04,316 Speaker 1: starts spending a lot of time with his new buddies. 13 00:01:05,116 --> 00:01:09,476 Speaker 1: You don't make progress unless you're dealing with sociopath I think, 14 00:01:09,676 --> 00:01:14,596 Speaker 1: homicidal crazy people. Ned's wife at the time was also 15 00:01:14,716 --> 00:01:18,236 Speaker 1: an FBI agent, and she started to worry, will you 16 00:01:18,316 --> 00:01:20,316 Speaker 1: hang around that long with a bunch of bad guys 17 00:01:20,716 --> 00:01:23,716 Speaker 1: fitting in with them? Your behavior is going to change 18 00:01:23,756 --> 00:01:27,676 Speaker 1: and where you draw the line changes. But this was 19 00:01:27,756 --> 00:01:30,516 Speaker 1: just the beginning. Ned tells me he would go on 20 00:01:30,596 --> 00:01:34,756 Speaker 1: to live his double life for years and eventually uncover 21 00:01:34,916 --> 00:01:39,956 Speaker 1: a vast criminal conspiracy. It involved celebrities, the CIA, a 22 00:01:40,076 --> 00:01:43,876 Speaker 1: dictator down in Central America. Not just that ultimately it 23 00:01:43,996 --> 00:01:48,276 Speaker 1: leads to a war, I mean a full scale US invasion. 24 00:01:48,796 --> 00:01:50,556 Speaker 1: We're going to work this upbright to the top. Our 25 00:01:50,596 --> 00:01:53,156 Speaker 1: objective is to work up and kill the head of 26 00:01:53,156 --> 00:01:57,676 Speaker 1: the snake. Skeptical here, so is I. And then I 27 00:01:57,716 --> 00:02:02,716 Speaker 1: started doing a little detective work of my own. I'm 28 00:02:02,796 --> 00:02:07,636 Speaker 1: Jake Albern and this is deep Cover, a show about drugs, motorcycles, 29 00:02:07,676 --> 00:02:13,876 Speaker 1: an FBI agent, and a dictator with a machette. Well, 30 00:02:13,956 --> 00:02:16,436 Speaker 1: you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to realize that 31 00:02:16,476 --> 00:02:19,316 Speaker 1: we stumbled up on something that was large and scale 32 00:02:19,476 --> 00:02:23,356 Speaker 1: and that it was international. The story was way too 33 00:02:23,396 --> 00:02:27,196 Speaker 1: big for the FEDS. I would have considered them very 34 00:02:27,396 --> 00:02:31,036 Speaker 1: polished executives that they just happened to ultimately be involved 35 00:02:31,036 --> 00:02:33,916 Speaker 1: in smuggling. You could smell the money, there was so 36 00:02:33,996 --> 00:02:36,636 Speaker 1: much of it. Money has a very distinct owner, and 37 00:02:36,676 --> 00:02:38,516 Speaker 1: there was just so much of it you could smell it. 38 00:02:39,236 --> 00:02:43,116 Speaker 1: Terrible characters or are stock and trade. It's the criminals 39 00:02:43,116 --> 00:02:45,756 Speaker 1: who know how to get around the law and get 40 00:02:45,796 --> 00:02:49,796 Speaker 1: around all of the systems who can help us do 41 00:02:50,156 --> 00:02:53,596 Speaker 1: our job. You know, you don't have to choose that path. 42 00:02:53,676 --> 00:02:56,276 Speaker 1: You don't have to choose to work a case in 43 00:02:56,356 --> 00:02:59,876 Speaker 1: that way. You don't have to choose to go deep cover. 44 00:03:00,036 --> 00:03:02,796 Speaker 1: You are who you are. You're just an FBI agent, 45 00:03:02,836 --> 00:03:05,676 Speaker 1: You're not God. At any time, I could have gone 46 00:03:05,676 --> 00:03:08,076 Speaker 1: to my bosses and said I'm done and they would 47 00:03:08,076 --> 00:03:11,516 Speaker 1: have respected that. Why didn't you, pink as I want 48 00:03:11,516 --> 00:03:17,636 Speaker 1: to make the case deep Cover brought to you by 49 00:03:17,676 --> 00:03:22,276 Speaker 1: Pushkin Industries and launching July thirteenth. Listen on Apple, Spotify, 50 00:03:22,596 --> 00:03:24,236 Speaker 1: or wherever you get podcasts.