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Speaker 1: We welcome you to the Official Titans Podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: the OTP, and no matter what's going on, no matter

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Speaker 1: where it's going on, Amy Wells is always here. Amy Wells. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith. You should say that with like joy and excitement.

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Speaker 1: Amy's here. I think I did. I thought I did.

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Speaker 1: But even more exciting, no offense to Amy, but even

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Speaker 1: more exciting. The great Jim Wyatt is back as part

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Speaker 1: of the OTP. Jim Wyatt, welcome back. We are so

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Speaker 1: glad to have you rejoined us. Glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Is my first time on Zoom. My wife as a

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Speaker 1: school teacher, so she's been working on Zoom all week

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Speaker 1: from the house, and this is my first experience. So

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Speaker 1: it's glad to be doing OTP and doing it on Zoom.

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Speaker 1: This is Friday, April the third. As we tape this,

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Speaker 1: there has been some news this week, and the news

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Speaker 1: really emanated from some conference calls that John Robinson and

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Speaker 1: Mike Grabel did with the media on Wednesday. And those

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Speaker 1: conference calls were not only well listened to, but there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of great questions. I guess overall. John

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Speaker 1: Robinson's lasted about forty minutes. Mike grabels lasted more than

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Speaker 1: a half hour. Jim White, I'll let you go first,

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Speaker 1: and then Amy, I'll let you chime in from the

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Speaker 1: general managers conference call. What jumped out to you, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think just the fact that he was willing to

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Speaker 1: talk about Jadeveon Clowney and make it known that the

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Speaker 1: team does have some interest in him. Is obviously curious

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Speaker 1: to see how things develop them with him, and I

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Speaker 1: think we've all seen Jadeveon Clowney start off with the

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen million a year, which is a heck of

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Speaker 1: a bargain. I mean, that's that's pretty much given, get

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Speaker 1: them for free at that pat. Yes, it's just a

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Speaker 1: matter of what the team might be comfortable with their

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Speaker 1: Mike Varibal knows them, and I'm getting into the variable

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Speaker 1: conference call a little bit and and him addressing it

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Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's the fact that that

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Speaker 1: we'll all have to kind of see how things go

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Speaker 1: from here. That that's what was most intriguing. To me,

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Speaker 1: I thought that John Robinson and how transparent he was

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Speaker 1: with the adaptations that they're needing to make because of

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Speaker 1: the current state of the nation right now in the world. Really,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting that he was so

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Speaker 1: willing to talk about the fact that they're doing conference calls,

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Speaker 1: the fact that everybody's working out of their own homes

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Speaker 1: They have a very structured process. So the fact that

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Speaker 1: they're not only making changes, but he was able to

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Speaker 1: and where things are kind of hard, but what they're

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Speaker 1: the circumstances that are presenting themselves right now that no

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Speaker 1: it got me amy more than anything else that he

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Speaker 1: But his comments about the death of Joe Diffy making

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Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen situation so real for him, quite telling,

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Speaker 1: and I think for a lot of people they're having

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Speaker 1: the same experiences in the reality of some of our

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Speaker 1: favorite TV hosts have it and are dealing with it.

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Speaker 1: Tom Hanks dealt with it and his wife Rita Wilson,

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Speaker 1: and Diffy's somebody that a lot of people in Titans

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Speaker 1: John Robinson, I thought, there's no question and you know,

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Speaker 1: John Robinson not sitting in his office on the second

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you first Amy Mike Brabel's conference call.

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Speaker 1: while he acknowledged that things are different during the preseason

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Speaker 1: I thought that the parallels between the two were interesting.

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Speaker 1: us are surprised because he raved about Logan Woodside at

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Speaker 1: I have is this team moves forward a lot of

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Speaker 1: them still because this team still has holes. But what's

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Speaker 1: Jim Derrick Henry signed his tender after both especially John Robinson,

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Speaker 1: had nice things to say about how Henry and his

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Speaker 1: Now you're reading it? I think it's a show of

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Speaker 1: After the tag leads you to believe that these two

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Speaker 1: the biggest question I've gotten do this whole thing is

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Speaker 1: why why extend tanney Hill and give him a long

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Speaker 1: because the two sides are not working together in good faith.

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Speaker 1: It's just the tanney Hill deal was able to come

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Speaker 1: a matter of where they can get something done with

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Speaker 1: point two million dollars salary, which is which is not

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Speaker 1: too bad. Did anybody really think that Derrick Henry would

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Speaker 1: hold out anyway? I mean, you can't keep this man

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Speaker 1: out of a gym to save your life. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody really knows whether we're

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Speaker 1: You know, John didn't make it sound like it was

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Speaker 1: So maybe a while before something gets settled, but at

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Speaker 1: least the two sides are on the same page. It's

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Speaker 1: smart in a lot of ways for Derrick Henry. First

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think it's smart is that

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Speaker 1: and you know that you're part of this team before

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Speaker 1: happen in anything, but I think it benefits him Jim

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Speaker 1: in every way to do it. It certainly falls right

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Speaker 1: in line with who he is. And Amy touched on this,

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Speaker 1: and this guy wants to play. He's never complained about money.

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Speaker 1: He's always made pretty good money because obviously he has

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Speaker 1: I just think Derrick Henry has a smart approach as

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Speaker 1: get a long term deal? We're upset with him. I

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Speaker 1: about how he carried this team. Why wasn't he rewarded?

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna bite you like some of these other

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Speaker 1: not only backing in, but then like ruining someone else's

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Speaker 1: lose to the eight and eight team that got in

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Speaker 1: through the backdoor. I mean, in five years it won't

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Speaker 1: seem like the backdoor. In five years, it'll be play

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Speaker 1: better because this is the reality of the playoffs. But

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Speaker 1: for the first couple of seasons, some little average team

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Speaker 1: comes in and screws up the tightened chances of going

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And I'm going to be hot,

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Speaker 1: so let's make sure that doesn't happen. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the thought of teams below five hundred getting in, but

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Speaker 1: I do like the thought of the excitement and keep

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Speaker 1: keeping a lot of other teams seasons meaningful down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: because the last thing you want to see as team

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Speaker 1: that are trying to get and playing against the team

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much playing out the string. So the more

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Speaker 1: teams that you can have involved and competing in the

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Speaker 1: final week of the season, I think the better. I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest help to all of it's going to

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Speaker 1: be weeks fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen, because more teams

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Speaker 1: are still gonna be in it. I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: be four and eight after twelve games, but you're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know what, if we win our last four, we've

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Speaker 1: got it live. We're still live. We've got a chance

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Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs. And so for a fan base,

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Speaker 1: for people who sell tickets for television, anytime you can

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Speaker 1: have it be meaningful, it's bad. All right? So are

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Speaker 1: you ready to go over some of the mock drafts

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Speaker 1: and what they're saying about the Titans right now? Jim

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Speaker 1: White does this? I guess you do it early in

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Speaker 1: the week, don't you, Jim. It's turned into a Monday gathering.

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Speaker 1: And I think maybe I had thirty five, thirty six

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Speaker 1: of them, and the closure gets the draft of more.

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Speaker 1: I see people weigh in on my drafts, even people

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Speaker 1: that have not done them. I'm a surprised how much

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Speaker 1: they change from week to week. But it has shifted.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ed Rusher, before the Beasley move and before

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Speaker 1: the Korea move was kind of the position and that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people seem to be pegging for the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Now it has switched to offensive tackle. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw him out here and I'll let Jim react first

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Speaker 1: and then Amy can react second. All Right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Charles Davis and his latest mock has the

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Speaker 1: Titans selecting at number twenty nine Josh Jones, offensive tackle Houston,

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Speaker 1: and he has been a popular one. Several guys had

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Speaker 1: Jones going and certainly in an intriguing prospect, a guy

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Speaker 1: who would buy obviously with Dennis Kelly. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 1: that idea. I like the idea of bringing in someone

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the offensive line, add some

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Speaker 1: competition for Dennis Kelly. I like that. I'm okay with that,

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Speaker 1: Charles good pick. Sporting News also says the Titans will

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Speaker 1: select Josh Jones. So I go to SI dot Com

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Speaker 1: and Jim Wyatt, they say, Jeff Gladney cornerback Texas Christian.

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Speaker 1: I think that's another need. And we just talked to

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Speaker 1: or you're just about how thin the team is. That

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Speaker 1: could change. I mean, the one guy we haven't mentioned

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Speaker 1: here so far as Logan Ryan and he remains a

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Speaker 1: free agent, and if let's say something gets worked out

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Speaker 1: with him, is that is much of a need now,

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Speaker 1: you know, a Dory, we'll have a year, assuming his

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Speaker 1: kind his option years picked up. He'll be back next year.

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Speaker 1: You know. Butler as a contract that would have him

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Speaker 1: here as well. Logan Ryan. We're not sure how that

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Speaker 1: was going to look out look like, but a lot

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Speaker 1: hinges on Logan and if he is not back, I

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Speaker 1: think that makes cornerback even more of an option if

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Speaker 1: it's not one to begin with. And Gladen he seems

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Speaker 1: to be a guy that a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: pegging to the Titans as well. I said at the beginning,

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Speaker 1: I think that corner is definitely a spot where the

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Speaker 1: Titans should be looking. You always need depth at that spot, always,

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Speaker 1: always always bringing someone who could be a contributor early

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Speaker 1: who's a good player. I think that would be great.

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Speaker 1: I'm in with that, all right. The last that I've

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Speaker 1: got for you. At number twenty nine, Will Brentson says

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans select DeAndre Swift running back Georgia. He'd

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Speaker 1: be fun to have him, and you talk about it

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Speaker 1: a good one two punch with Derrick Henry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this team needs a number two running back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to slight Dalen Dawkins, who is

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Speaker 1: going to be given a chance as well, But I

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Speaker 1: do think the team has potential to upgrade on Dion

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Speaker 1: Lewis who wasn't much of a factor last season, and

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Speaker 1: just how early the team decides to address that position.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see swift and using a pick that early.

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Speaker 1: I'd be a little bit skeptical about that, just because

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Speaker 1: you've got your workhorse in Henry and you can find

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Speaker 1: running bikes later in the draft to have some popping

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Speaker 1: and produced personally, and I'm biased a little bit because

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Speaker 1: I watched this guy play so much. I think key

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Speaker 1: Shaan Vaughan would be a great tandem with Derrick Knry

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Speaker 1: just because of his speed and his ability catch the

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Speaker 1: ball the backfield. He's running back out of Vanderbilt. But Swift,

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Speaker 1: while it sounds exciting, I'm skeptical of the Titans going

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Speaker 1: that early with the running back. I agree with Jim.

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Speaker 1: I think that while he would be a really fun

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Speaker 1: guy to have to be part of the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's unlikely, given some of the other needs,

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Speaker 1: that a running back would be taken in that spot.

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Speaker 1: And I think you can get running backs elsewhere for

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Speaker 1: a better value. Right, So both of you kind of

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Speaker 1: frown on that one. But that's good stuff, and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a review of a lot more mocks at

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans dot Com. Right, Jim, that's right. We'll gotta

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Speaker 1: do this every week leading up to the draft, which

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Speaker 1: is it's crazy that the NFL just keeps on rollings.

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Speaker 1: I know this COVID nineteen has slowed down the world,

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Speaker 1: but the league keeps going out. Initially, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: wondered whether it was a smart move to have free

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Speaker 1: But I think the way things have played out, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that this uh pandemic is going to get

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Speaker 1: worse as the weeks go by before it gets better,

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Speaker 1: I think it was a smart move to have free

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Speaker 1: agency when it was held. And now I think the

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Speaker 1: draft is going to be a welcome relief to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. Uh. It's sad, sad to see what's

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Speaker 1: going on across the world, especially in this country, and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be scary here over the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. It will be nice to have a draft

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Speaker 1: to look forward to and at least to know what

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Speaker 1: your team is going to be, even if there is

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Speaker 1: going to be time when you're not on the field

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Speaker 1: helping guys get better. And with that said, the mock

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Speaker 1: Draft will continue on each Monday leading up to this

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Speaker 1: big event on the twenty third, twenty five at Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans dot Com. The new name, the new name, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's as a actually been announced. I

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Speaker 1: think they're wanting to get you know, Jeff Harding is,

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Speaker 1: who's such a whiz working on things behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: I know he is wanting to get all the kinks

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Speaker 1: worked out before we promote that too much. But it

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Speaker 1: seems like that's is going off well so far. I've

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Speaker 1: even had a couple of people text me and email,

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Speaker 1: hey you when did the switch take place? I said,

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Speaker 1: will happen earlier this week? Just has not been announced yet,

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Speaker 1: but that's where it's going to be Tennessee tids dot com.

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Speaker 1: We have something to look forward to on the OTP,

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Speaker 1: A couple of different things early next week, Amy Wells,

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Speaker 1: another in your series with Titans Radio's draft duo coach

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Speaker 1: Dave Beginnis and also Rhet Bryant. And what position are

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Speaker 1: you focusing on? We are doing the defensive line. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's very of need for the Titans. Well, it sure is,

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Speaker 1: so we're excited about that. Lots of lots to talk

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Speaker 1: about and then next Thursday, we really have something to

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Speaker 1: look forward to. Jim White, you won't believe this, but

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Speaker 1: it's true. Mike Vrabel is going to be our guest

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel is going to answer questions from the otpeople.

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells tell people, and we're going to continue to

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Speaker 1: promote this and hopefully everybody will help us get the

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Speaker 1: You get on your computer, You go to Titans Online

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash o TPQ, typing your question, hit send.

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Speaker 1: Vrabel bload them up next Thursday on the OTP. So

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Speaker 1: a lot coming from Jim Watt at Tennessee Titans Online

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