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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fourteen, episode

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Speaker 1: four of Day Guys production of My Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive and

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Speaker 1: do America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday, just ever not

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Speaker 1: National Pastry Day? Who is not happy to celebrate National

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Speaker 1: Pastry Day? What one of those things that almost you

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Speaker 1: would think doesn't need a national day because we're we're

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Speaker 1: all pretty right, yeah, we're all pretty aware of pastries,

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Speaker 1: were all, we're all fans. But you would think that

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Speaker 1: and that National Pastry Day comes and you're like, never mind,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the best. Also Christmas Card Day.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was Christmas, but I am wrong. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a k jes Lane. Maxwell has

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Speaker 1: a hammer falled down upon her head. Too bad? Maxwell?

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Speaker 1: Is this gay goat? Now that Epstein is dead? Whoa? Alright?

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Speaker 1: That's courtesy and Matt Dick Magic though on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: shout out to the Beatles documentary which informed us, which

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Speaker 1: made me feel good for always hating that song because

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Speaker 1: it was apparently the worst recording process of all time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles Grab the Time is right, got

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Speaker 1: a joint and light simply having a wonderful spliff mess

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Speaker 1: time and shout out to an aimic you the ak

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Speaker 1: a goddess ourselves an assaultis I sees you on discord

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Speaker 1: uh and just keeping that Beatles theme going. Although you

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Speaker 1: know that's what that's the palum McCartney. The thing that

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Speaker 1: I grew up hearing adults say that's just crap. That

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Speaker 1: sounds just crap. That's what you learned from the documentary

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Speaker 1: is that Maxwell Silverhammer is like a McCartney joint that

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Speaker 1: everybody in the band thought was like very corny, and

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Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, no no, you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to like then we'll we'll hit this thing and

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Speaker 1: it'll like sound cool. And and then after the filming

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Speaker 1: of the documentary they did the Abbey Road sessions and

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Speaker 1: apparently it was the song that broke up the band,

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Speaker 1: or did the most break up the band. Anyways, Miles,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by one of the greatest stand ups, funniest podcasters doing

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Speaker 1: it anywhere. You've seen her on HBO's Two Do Queens

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Speaker 1: and heard her on her podcast Dork Forrest and the

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Speaker 1: Jackie and LORI show, please welcome the brilliant, the talented

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Speaker 1: Jackie Kasha. Yeah, well what's up? And I will not

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Speaker 1: be breaking into song by by loss their loss. Some

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Speaker 1: say love now just a straight down the middle straight love.

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Speaker 1: It coming to us from what what part of the

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Speaker 1: cursed landscape? God's green Earth? It is? Uh, we're talking Hollywood, Hollywood, Florida,

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Speaker 1: where weirdly enough, it looks like carrion birds are floating

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Speaker 1: can see him. But it's not good. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: And then there's uh, but there's a lot of music

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Speaker 1: themed art. I'm surrounded and I don't know anything about me,

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Speaker 1: Like I know, I listen to music. I'm not a monster,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like I'm not. I haven't watched that documentary.

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Speaker 1: There's a giant picture downstairs that I just tweeted. I said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a heavy metal. I know he's hugely famous.

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Speaker 1: He's wearing a bandana as a hat. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who he is, and everybody feel free to guess. And

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Speaker 1: then in two hours, when I'm done with the zeit geist,

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Speaker 1: I will post a picture and you all go, how

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Speaker 1: can you not know that My favorite type of genre

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Speaker 1: of music themed art is things that are shaped as

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Speaker 1: like musical instruments. Right, and you were sharing before recorded

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Speaker 1: that you are in fact in a hotel shape like

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Speaker 1: a guitar. Yeah, and you know those uh you know

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Speaker 1: a hotel, the posts are all guitars. Everything is a guitar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like for like that kind of thing. But it isn't

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Speaker 1: that like way more of a top. Yeah. It's so

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Speaker 1: this whole thing is a footprint. It's the devil's thumb.

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Speaker 1: It is sticking out of the everglades or where the

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Speaker 1: hell I am like like like a giant footprint. This

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Speaker 1: thing when when the aliens come and be like, oh

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Speaker 1: trying to kill it. This is giant knife into the art.

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Speaker 1: The art in my room is something and it does

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Speaker 1: I showed, but of course it's a hotel art, so

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Speaker 1: it's of course nailed to the wall. But it's guitar

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Speaker 1: picks like stuff. Yes, very cool. Nothing is more metal,

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Speaker 1: nothing is more rock and roll than things shaped like

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Speaker 1: but with guitar. Yes, that's exactly what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I think my lamp is a drum. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: like just gotta be so weird. You're like, is it

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Speaker 1: look at one of those symbol hats instead of a

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Speaker 1: is just rife with rock quotes. Right, there's something going on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening except for no one with masks.

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Speaker 1: That's what we know. A lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things not happening here in Florida. My favorite philosopher,

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Speaker 1: Eric Clapton has always said, you don't need that, you

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Speaker 1: don't need that fucking mask. Don't don't let the government

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Speaker 1: and tell you what to do. I had a moment

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Speaker 1: the Delta sky Club. I traveled a lot, you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the Deulta skylu It's very glamorous anyway. It's

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Speaker 1: an older man. Demographic just you know. The man's middle

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Speaker 1: Eastern might be uh Arabic or Armenian or something. I'm Armenian,

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Speaker 1: so I can almost tell. And then there's an Asian

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Speaker 1: going up this elevator. We're packed like sardines, and but

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Speaker 1: we're all wearing masks. And I make the jope that

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Speaker 1: but sometimes it'll get a laugh. And I'm a desperate,

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Speaker 1: desperate comedian, so I get a laugh. And then the

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Speaker 1: it's just a plot, just hell yeah, giant silence buzzkiller

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Speaker 1: were all shocked, and so I just said back, you

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Speaker 1: and he walks out and he goes, I get to

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Speaker 1: say that, you know, it's freedom of speech, and I

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Speaker 1: get to it. I said me too, Man, Look what

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Speaker 1: we just did. You said something, I said something, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, And then I lived in hope that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to the sky glube away. All right, Jackie,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking

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Speaker 1: it back to ourselves in twenty nineteen, we would all like,

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Speaker 1: Patriot Front. So we're gonna check in with like a

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Speaker 1: lot of these these stories. I even felt for one,

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Speaker 1: the Christmas shortages, you know, Santa's or there's a short

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Speaker 1: Santa shortage, there's a Christmas tree shortage, rush out and

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Speaker 1: guess before they run out. Turns out that's all bullshit.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that. All of that plenty more.

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Speaker 1: But first, Jackie, we do like to ask our guess

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? I googled the

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Speaker 1: thing yesterday because I gotta I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys know this, but on everyone's favorite ant and so

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions via text, some business related,

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Speaker 1: just nothing funnier than that, because I'm not great at

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Speaker 1: other comics. So and I'm willing to answer a question.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and like every comic, I will at least

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Speaker 1: have an opinion even without the information. So I made

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Speaker 1: that it was a reference to a hacky premise from

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Speaker 1: the eighties, from the nineteen eighties in stand up comedy,

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Speaker 1: And so I googled who said many parts of a

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Speaker 1: pine tree are edible? And uh? It was a grape

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Speaker 1: nuts commercial from the seventies with a guy named you

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Speaker 1: Will Givens, and You'll given said in this weird, weird

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Speaker 1: grape nuts commercial, many parts of a pine tree edible?

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Speaker 1: what was the what are the derivations off of that? That? Well? That?

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Speaker 1: How was it used? It? Sometimes it was a throwaway line,

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Speaker 1: just a tag. Sometimes they would change it. Many parts

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Speaker 1: of a pine tree in edible, they would say, sometimes

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Speaker 1: many parts of a pine tree are fuckable. You guys,

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Speaker 1: write that down because that's that's good times. That's just

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Speaker 1: good writing anyway, because they both haven't able anyway. It

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Speaker 1: It was a weird commercial. I don't blame them, but

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Speaker 1: that is the last thing that was interesting that I googled.

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Speaker 1: This is it's a quote from the father of modern foraging.

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Speaker 1: Right he was he was a weird eating guy from

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Speaker 1: the seventies. What a what a strange time? Like I've

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Speaker 1: I've looked at well, like could you imagine like General

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Speaker 1: Mills featuring like somebody who's like a a freaking in

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Speaker 1: what does it say? What's this intersection of brands that

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Speaker 1: But grape nuts is weird, so like the people who

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Speaker 1: eat grape nuts are weird, right. I grew up as

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Speaker 1: We yogurt and grape nuts was like a thing in

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Speaker 1: my family. And it's a bad it's a bad snack.

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Speaker 1: And what does it? Feels like child abuse? Well what

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Speaker 1: is it even? Because I remember as a kid like

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Speaker 1: going through the cereal, I'm like, that looks like shit

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Speaker 1: and it's two words I don't like. So let's go

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Speaker 1: on to rice crispy streets cereal. But like, what is

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Speaker 1: grape nuts even? It's not it, it's it seemed to be.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a baked grain, is what I think

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Speaker 1: it is. I think it's a weak thing, Like have

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Speaker 1: you ever eaten we Topix is sort of the fun

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Speaker 1: version of grape nuts and isn't fun? I like we

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Speaker 1: to pix, but that's because I put a lot of

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Speaker 1: fruit on it with my milk. But yeah, grape nuts

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Speaker 1: like some giant like food barons of like I bet

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Speaker 1: I can get people to eat just the worst like

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Speaker 1: essentially gravel. It is. It is so bad in your mouth.

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Speaker 1: There's like one and a half seconds where the aftercaste

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Speaker 1: been coasting on. But also, like grape and nuts are

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Speaker 1: two words that are advertising to people. We like, grapefruit

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Speaker 1: for so long, even though it tastes like ship grape nuts, grapefruit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not made of stone over here, right, I actually

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Speaker 1: do like grapefruit, but like my kids, but yeah, my

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Speaker 1: kids reaction to grapefruit is like that this tastes horrible,

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Speaker 1: all look like the same guy, you know, they're just

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Speaker 1: sort of a six ft six ft two brown haired

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Speaker 1: guy with regular features. And I was like, that sounds handsome,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like that adult man. Wait six mont two

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Speaker 1: regular guy Whitey magoose. And he also I think he

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Speaker 1: has a column for when anything that isn't a straight

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Speaker 1: white guy is a bold and because he broke it down,

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Speaker 1: he loves his spreadsheet. He's an ECU. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: some facts. All right, Well, if you if you like Bridgton,

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Speaker 1: go check out the works of Stephanie Lawrence. You can

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Lawrence with an But here's the thing you also,

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Speaker 1: to some extent, it's like a suggesting porn for people. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're like, do you like stepmother stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a website. What you want to do? Is you

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Speaker 1: want to go? I mean, is there always so? Like

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Speaker 1: The thing that I think stuck out to a lot

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Speaker 1: of people was in Bridgeton there was a large plot

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Speaker 1: about the male lead always pulling out like, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of sexually graphic to be a plot point I

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Speaker 1: think for for like a high is that is that

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Speaker 1: typical of romance novels to like have a sexually graphic

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Speaker 1: sort of plot. For a while, it was about page

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Speaker 1: one five that they would the sex scene would happen

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Speaker 1: in a book of about three hundred pages, so there

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Speaker 1: would be usually some sort of touchy touchy business right

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Speaker 1: around paget, and then about one forty five they get

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Speaker 1: laid and then they'd spend the last half misunderstanding each

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Speaker 1: other and then finally doing it again, or they spend

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Speaker 1: the whole middle of the book just doing it, doing it,

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Speaker 1: doing it, doing it, some small misunderstanding than reconciliation. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest things about romance novels. Turns out

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Speaker 1: there's always in a happy ending, and both for him

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Speaker 1: and for us. There you go, all right, well, let's

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Speaker 1: take a quick break and we will come back and

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Speaker 1: talk about some news stories. And we're back, and the

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Speaker 1: hottest new souvenir from the year is the mouse Mover,

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00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: which is how you trick your boss into thinking you're

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Speaker 1: still at your desk because that is important to them. Apparently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's uh, we've seen it. The this like

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Speaker 1: obsession has gone from you know, well, like bosses now

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Speaker 1: in the work from home era seem to be more

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Speaker 1: focused on things like if you're present rather than if

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Speaker 1: you're productive. Because we've seen all this stuff, like every

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Speaker 1: single study that's come out of like the lockdowns, and

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Speaker 1: things have shown for people who have been able to

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Speaker 1: work from home, you know, despite the stresses that it

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Speaker 1: caused from if you're going from just a brutally pro

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Speaker 1: productivity centric analysis, productivity has gone up and output has increased.

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Speaker 1: Yet there's still this is like just fucking evil, like

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Speaker 1: insistence on being like, well, what's going on you do

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Speaker 1: when you're sleeping at at noon for twenty minutes even

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Speaker 1: though you're also teaching kids like algebra in the other

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Speaker 1: room caused so much stress. And I think that's why

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Speaker 1: we've seen the rise of what men you call boss wear,

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Speaker 1: which are just different programs that are intended to track

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Speaker 1: worker activity. And it's just gone up more and more

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Speaker 1: and more, and you see it in things like you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people have found that they'll use

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Speaker 1: you know, apps like teams or slack and on some instances,

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Speaker 1: based on if you have like a computer owned by

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Speaker 1: a company, they can put software in there that says like, oh,

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Speaker 1: if your mouse isn't moving for like a minute, then

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Speaker 1: it's going to set your status to away and give

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Speaker 1: you a little electrical charge. And the thing that they

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Speaker 1: implanted in your neck right, yeah, exactly to the countdown.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like the fucking computer and loss

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Speaker 1: that you have to punch the numbers in. But yeah,

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00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: and then so this is like obviously led to you know,

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Speaker 1: boss is sending like humiliating emails or phone calls or

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Speaker 1: they're just questioning someone's like like what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even seem like you're doing anything? Do you

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Speaker 1: even need a job? That kind of stuff. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're finding out that now workers are having to find

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Speaker 1: a way to push back against this nonsense in the

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Speaker 1: form of like you're saying, a mouse mover, a simple device,

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Speaker 1: a simple device that pretends that moves your mouse. As

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Speaker 1: you try to eat lunch, you're like, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: get another cup of coffee, I'm gonna go have a cigarette,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, whatever you're going to do. Oh

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Speaker 1: what a budget of assholes. So they have to we

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Speaker 1: have to create these things because product like you said productivity, Sup, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not a that's that hasn't been an issue. And

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Speaker 1: I think like you're saying, even which is odd enough,

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Speaker 1: because if you're in an office, many people will just

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Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes to give themselves a reason to take a break,

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Speaker 1: and you don't see people being like where, what are

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Speaker 1: you smoking cigarettes? It's just accepted because then there's like

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Speaker 1: the idea, it's like, well, you came to the factory today,

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Speaker 1: so that at least I know if you're not if

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Speaker 1: you're here, then you can't be helping your family do

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00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: something navigate us incredibly stressful time. Yeah, and that's you

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00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: know that that's sort of same. I think that same

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Speaker 1: perspective hasn't been adopted. But these devices, like they run

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Speaker 1: the fucking gamut, which is amazing because in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: there was a company that started in February, like a

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: mouse mover company, and they just did it because they're like,

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Speaker 1: we know people use it for like if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're looking at many different screens for like data analysis

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Speaker 1: or things like that. Sometimes you just want something like that,

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Speaker 1: so the computer doesn't, like it might not have the

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Speaker 1: function to know that you don't want it to go

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Speaker 1: to sleep or something, so you use a mouse mover

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Speaker 1: for that. But then this company just saw just exponential

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Speaker 1: uptick in sales since like April when they realize, oh

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00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: my god, I'm being watched in my own home. And

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Speaker 1: the only way to combat this is if my mouse

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Speaker 1: is moving. So they have like mechanical ones that you

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Speaker 1: just rest your mouths on and it just kind of

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: goes like left or right to just kind of keep

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Speaker 1: it moving. They have other like USB devices you can

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Speaker 1: plug in that will just tell your computer that there's

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Speaker 1: like a mouse being moved, so it well, no matter what,

536
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: you can just do whatever you need to. But the

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Speaker 1: observing eyes that be won't know. And some they're also

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00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: just YouTube videos too. I didn't realize that have like

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Speaker 1: these moving graphics and you have like if you have

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00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: an optical mouse, it will actually like create like it'll

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Speaker 1: create movement in the cursor again, so you can just

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: run a video and people are going to think your work,

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: that you're that you're doing something, and what you're really

544
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Speaker 1: doing is playing Lord's Water Deep on Steam. But I

545
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: also need to move my moster that wow, what why

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Speaker 1: I've never understood. I mean, granted, I do stand up,

547
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of oversight, right, And but

548
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I never understood, you know, when I when I had

549
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: day jobs, why there was so many ship bags, right? Like,

550
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: why what do you care? And might doing the job

551
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: is like I remember I used this stuff envelopes for

552
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: some gig. I worked at a nonprofit and this this

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00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: My boss told me, how does stuff envelopes and addressing

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00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: the bolks for this mailing? And she explained it took

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Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen minutes to explain it, and then she said,

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Speaker 1: you do you understand? And I said, mostly, I'm gonna

557
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: probably have to ask you two more times as I

558
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: do this how to do it again? And she was

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: like what, And I said, yeah, I don't care. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of my self esteem whether

561
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: I whether I got this right the first time. I

562
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Speaker 1: just want to do it how you want it done,

563
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: because I don't like I would be really good as

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Speaker 1: like a prep cook, because I don't care how I

565
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: cut the vegetables, but the chef does. And most people

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Speaker 1: go to work, they don't want to take it home

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Speaker 1: with them. And we're not all inventors, right, So yeah,

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00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I'll do what however you want. But then when it's done,

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Speaker 1: don't stare at me. I'm gonna do it and then

570
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: get the hell out of my way. Yeah, there's we've

571
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: talked before. The Theory of Bullshit Jobs essay and then

572
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: book written by David Graber that argues that like half

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Speaker 1: of the jobs of societal work is like pointless and

574
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: like just there to give people give like bosses, people

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00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: to boss around. And I feel like this is a

576
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: huge check mark in the like evidence for that, because productivity,

577
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: like you said, is up. So that's not what they're

578
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: That's not what they're worrying about. They're worrying about whether

579
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: you are being like, whether the quality of your life

580
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: is being diminished by their talking about power and control.

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00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: It's not anything about productivity and effectiveness. Yeah, or for

582
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Speaker 1: people to recontextualize what it means to work to write,

583
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: because if you're like, wait, well I'm working, but I'm

584
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: also doing this other stuff, why don't I do more

585
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: of that? You can't be feeling that comfortable because this

586
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: whole financial system is based on the threat of homelessness

587
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: and starvation to coerce you and to keep working. So

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00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't start loosening your definitions of what it means

589
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: to survive. We can't have that, so you better have

590
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: that fucking mouse moving is I don't know, very low stakes,

591
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's one of these things that's been across

592
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the board, just been denounced, you know, the Electronic Frontier

593
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Foundation cause BOSS where you know, invasive, unnecessary, unethical. The

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00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: Center for Democracy and Technology called it i as being

595
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: quote actively detrimental to employees health and demanding that like

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00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: OSHA actually updates its policies so that like on worker

597
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: safety to also include like at home workers just for

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00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: like this kind of weird you know, patrol, like productivity

599
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: patrol that's like unnecessary, right right, because it's not like

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00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: we're not all accepting that, you know, like, there's a

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00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: TV in this room this side. I don't know who

602
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: else is watching, but I'm sort have accepted that I'm

603
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: probably never alone, and uh, and there's cameras in this casino,

604
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: in this hotel, and but there's absolutely no reason for

605
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: me that for anyone to check in and go, hey,

606
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: by the way, I am watching you. I'm just like

607
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: the low level hum of me being watched at all

608
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: times is already there. You don't need to poke. Please

609
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: don't prod that open world, the Panoptic on Israel. Yeah, alright,

610
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about Patriot Front real quick. So over the

611
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: weekend last weekend, about a hundred members of this far

612
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: right group, Patriot Front gathered in d C to do

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Speaker 1: La March, have a little speech about European diaspora or

614
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: like whatever fucking codeword that code word they're using, Yeah,

615
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: diaspora instead of colonialism. And that's the fun of it, right,

616
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: We're a diaspora community. We we like diversity in the

617
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: European country. Is that our members come from. Think this

618
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: person's vaguely tan, right, but yeah, yeah, but this is

619
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: the same group from Charlottesville. They just changed their name

620
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: right right, right Vanguard or something right and Guard America.

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Speaker 1: And that's the guy Alex Fields, who you remember, the

622
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 1: man who killed how they're higher. He was decked out

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Speaker 1: in their regalia of like you know, khakis and like

624
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: polo and at the time they were like, well he

625
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't They couldn't find that he was an official member,

626
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: but based on the images, you're like, well, he was

627
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: definitely around it and wanting to participate. And I think

628
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: that was enough for them to realize maybe a rebrand

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Speaker 1: is in order. So they became Patriot Front, which is

630
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: also really a really cool name as well. He's got

631
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: the word patriot in it, and yeah, flags were all

632
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: upside down and yeah, they love it. Because the United

633
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: States is in distress. There in distress, random and they're

634
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: anti maxers maskers, but they're all masked up. It was

635
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: so brave. But you know they do ship like security

636
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Speaker 1: for neo Nazis. They have like a clear leader in

637
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Speaker 1: this like twenty three year old who has been arrested

638
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Speaker 1: and was at the DC event. And so this isn't

639
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: like this unknown or obscure group, especially to anyone that

640
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: this you know, pays attention to far right extremism in

641
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Speaker 1: this country. Yet again Republicans were just lock step in there.

642
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: What this always happens, Their confusion and denial about what

643
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: this group is that very much intersects with their with

644
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: their party and saying things like Marjorie Taylor Gestapo. She

645
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: was even saying stuff like nope, this is a quote

646
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: from her like with an image of these people said

647
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: no patriot group I've ever seen, whereas Khaki's stormtrooper nepads

648
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: and covers their faces like they're scared. Uh huh okay,

649
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: except everyone you talked to and money from, you, crazy

650
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: stupid ship bag of a human. I'm so full of rage.

651
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: She's she's the worst, you know how, like you have

652
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: to spend like I spent a good portion of my

653
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: time going oh, middle aged white women, great voted for Okay,

654
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: how do I who do I? Who do I punch?

655
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, these guys so they were the vanguard ones

656
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: from Charlottesville. Yeah, yeah, that's nuts. And the Republicans are

657
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: pretending that they didn't, that they've never heard of them.

658
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Who they are? I don't know who who are? Well,

659
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Speaker 1: you've been looking at my retirement of Vanguard account. That's

660
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: really the tact. Yeah, for sure, but they get Yeah,

661
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: the I feel like, yeah, the Republican parties like a

662
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Speaker 1: white supremacists institution, and like the degree to which they

663
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: still be treated being treated as a second, viable second

664
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Speaker 1: party is an absolute crime. Like this is Yeah, I

665
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Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of Oh man, there was that

666
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Speaker 1: Twitter thread Jack that I sent you earlier that I

667
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: saw it was very popular from um this professor Dr

668
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Speaker 1: William Horne, who is just talking about I mean this,

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Speaker 1: he did a whole threat about how what's happening right

670
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: now and the like polarization and the fact that the

671
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Republicans are doing everything they can to completely upend or

672
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: you know, just overturned whatever election results. They don't happen,

673
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: who're saying this is actually kind of like worse than

674
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Speaker 1: the Civil War, And let me tell you why. And

675
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that stuck out to me

676
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: was this insistence on the media and Democrats that they

677
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: have a complete inability to say this thing that like

678
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: the Republicans have completely turned into this like ghoulish party

679
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: that it's we're not even talking about how radicalized it's become.

680
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: The word bipartisanship is still used as if you're dealing

681
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: with people of good faith and in general, I mean,

682
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: for all the those disappointment there's for democratic leadership, it's

683
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: just you do see though too, Like, especially on the news,

684
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: there's no full throated sort of description of what the

685
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Republican Party is and what they're trying to do. It's

686
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: just like they're becoming very aggressive with their Jerryman daring efforts,

687
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: but not saying this is because they're building the framework

688
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: to completely kneecap the sort of democratic process that exists

689
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: in the country. It's just always a few degrees short

690
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: of that, and it leaves people completely like confused to

691
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: know what's happening, like right now in real time, Yeah,

692
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and have that professor on. He teaches

693
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Speaker 1: an entire course on like white backlash, the history of

694
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: white rage and white backlash. Didn't he write a book, well,

695
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a new book out that is that

696
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: looked fascinated. I can't remember the name of that demand

697
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: The Impossible, I think is one of his, or no

698
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: that came out, but I mean, but yeah, yeah, I

699
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: mean he was he The thread comes about because somebody's like,

700
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: so we're going to dissolve into civil war, right and

701
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: he's like, actually, like that would be not the worst case.

702
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: The worst case seems to be what's actually happening, which

703
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: is that the white supremacy is becoming the mainstream option

704
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: and there isn't enough of a you know, pushback from

705
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: anyone resisting established yea from establishment, and you know, it's

706
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: interest because the my new album, I have like a

707
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: throwaway line that we're going through the laziest civil war

708
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: right now that I've ever seen in my life. And

709
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: it's a very like it's on brand, you know, the

710
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: only people right now and I and I didn't put

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Speaker 1: it on the album, but I was, I said, where

712
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: was I? Last week? I was in Ratley, North Carolina,

713
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I would tell you guys

714
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: to pick up arms, because the only people right now

715
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: shooting anybody are the bad guys. The bad guys are

716
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: the only one that are killing everybody. And I would say,

717
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: I would say that you should, you should raise arms,

718
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: except for that I'm unwilling to do it right. So

719
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how to fight

720
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: people that are willing to shoot innocent people like who

721
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: were just willing to mow children down and you know,

722
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: people on the street. And the the only joke that

723
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: used to get a bigger laugh, what six or seven

724
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: years ago, it used to get a good laugh that

725
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: the Germans are going to get to be the good

726
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: guys in World War three. Yeah, because if you have

727
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: been's the worst thing you ever did, you get to

728
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: be the hero in the sequel. And they're the only

729
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: ones paying reparations, so like literally paying reparations, which is

730
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: not a extreme position, it's like the right thing to do. Yeah, Yeah,

731
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: there was I saw some video where some dirt bag

732
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: American dude was standing outside what I guess used to

733
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Speaker 1: be the Reichstag, and or is I don't know anything

734
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: about Berlin uh, but he he did like the Nazi salute,

735
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: and so German just pedestrian walked by him and plunged

736
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: him right in the face. Right. It was one of

737
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: the greatest I loved the It was a great thing. Yeah. Yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: And I think it's it's I think it's just one

739
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: of these moments two Americans have never in you know,

740
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: the modern history had to really deal with some kind

741
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: of issue like on the soil of America, you know

742
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, there's just it's it's not a

743
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: it's not a problem solving, it's not necessarily problems obviously

744
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: still people need. But because of the relative stability, there's

745
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: just this utter lack of imagination for how bad things

746
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: can get or how good things can be either. So

747
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: you're just dealing with a lot of So what happens

748
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: is in this space right now where a lot of

749
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: people are scratching their heads, like is this bad? Like

750
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think America could become a place where, like

751
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: though you use the Supreme Court to create cast system

752
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: and an apartheid state. Wait, they did, and they are

753
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: after the Civil War, after lots of people died, and

754
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: like to you know, make it so that that wasn't

755
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: the case. They like, there was the backlash and then

756
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: the it became official. Lot in the late sixties, though,

757
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: there was a lot more rioting and a lot more

758
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: and and real change happened. It wasn't exponential, Actually it

759
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: was exponential from what came before. Right, But it's obviously

760
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: not enough, and it's obviously there is this white supremacist

761
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: backlash of well we're there, we're losing. We're losing. You know,

762
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: there's not enough of something. It's this and plus, nobody

763
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: is putting on uniforms and lining up. Only the dufas

764
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: is of of of Vanguard, Proud Front or Patriot Front

765
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: or whatever are all wearing the same chinos like they

766
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: work at Old Navy and lining up and carrying flags.

767
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: The original Civil War was in a different time of warfare, right,

768
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we are in a civil war because of

769
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: grilla warfare, because of insurgency, because of terrorism. That's what

770
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: we're in. I don't know how to I mean, nobody's

771
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: lining up. We're not gonna all go stand. I'm not

772
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: gonna put on a blue hat. And well, I think

773
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: that's what's that's what will make this new, you know,

774
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: part of history even more insidious if it's unfolding the

775
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: way it looks like, which is they will be people

776
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: who are materially comfortable and can actually rationalize that they

777
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: don't this. Yeah, things are bad, but it's not bad

778
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: for me, And it's not bad enough that I need

779
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: to up end my own relative stability to try and

780
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: change something. Yeah, trying trying to get what is hilariously

781
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: called the middle class to stand up, because there is

782
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: no middle class. There is only the wealthy, of which

783
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I am one of. And I consider my wealth the

784
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: fact that I live indoors, the fact that I can

785
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: buy a pair of shoes and not look at the price.

786
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a That's a real sign of wealth

787
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: to me, is that I could buy clothes and not

788
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: have to be worried about how much they cost. I can.

789
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: I can, And it isn't the obscenity that is billionaires.

790
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: But it is real, you know. This, This the fact

791
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: that I'm doing well. Yeah, And and to try to

792
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: get me to do something besides tweet, besides you know,

793
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: go out and stand on a corner once every six months.

794
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, I used to do a lot more protesting

795
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: in the in the eighties, and nineties where I was

796
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: on the street and it did not feel super effective

797
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: like I was in the eighties. I did a lot

798
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: of anti apartheid protests at college and stuff, and it

799
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like it did a lot, but it

800
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: did help. I did feel part of something, you know,

801
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: It did feel like I was doing something which is

802
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: a huge need in like I think loneliness is epidemic

803
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: right now, so like it does feel like they're like

804
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: ways that like activism getting some community response, like dual power,

805
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Like they answer many questions that I think are are

806
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: being asked or aren't being asked enough, but you know,

807
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: many problems that we currently have. All right, let's uh,

808
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: let's take a break and come back and talk about

809
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: some bullshit shortages. And we're back, and let's look at

810
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: news of Christmas shortages, which really, like our writer j

811
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of put together a comprehensive look at like

812
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: how this happens basically every year. I do also want

813
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: to just add that in sort of a coalescence of

814
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: stories from our dock into a artful collage. And arsonists

815
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: climbed the Christmas tree sculpture outside Fox News headquarters and

816
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: set it on fire and like that ship went up.

817
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, and there they are like that all they're

818
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: talking about fire, But again they don't. Yeah that's all

819
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: they're talking about when you know three people just got

820
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: murdered last week. You know, you're just like that's the thing.

821
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, they're terrorists, and you're like, what about Okay,

822
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: all right, well, but I mean again, that's the thing

823
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: that when if that's like sort of like the momentum

824
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: of how you take in the world, like through Fox You'll, You'll,

825
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: it just conditions you to be outraged at the things

826
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with you and completely ignore

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00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: all of the things that absolutely are existential threats to

828
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah. Wow. So we've talked about a couple

829
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: of the stories that are getting run this year, the

830
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: Santa Claus shortage, which I've seen, like it seems like

831
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Speaker 1: the implication was that it was like Fauci's fault because

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Speaker 1: Santa didn't want to get vaccinated or they didn't want

833
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: to have to wear masks, because they wanted to be

834
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: just face to face with children the like germysts most

835
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: like spittle flecked humans in existence. Yeah, but the real

836
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: reason somebody actually looked at the real reason why there's

837
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: a shortage of Santa is compared to last year, not

838
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: compared to like all time or you know, it's a

839
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: relative shortage, is that hundreds of Santa's died of COVID, right,

840
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Speaker 1: A bunch of old guys. There were a bunch of

841
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: old dudes who go morbidities. Yeah, and and hung right

842
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: right there. Also not the healthiest dudes in the world.

843
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: And they spend all their time around kids. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

844
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Speaker 1: Yeah did they all there was a big There was

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Speaker 1: a big they killed they died, They COVID killed him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's I mean, that's what they're They're saying that there's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of people used to work as Santa's

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Speaker 1: and years passed, who passed away from COVID or are

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Speaker 1: hesitant to go to a job where you know, germ

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Speaker 1: ridden kids sit on their lap and after all their

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Speaker 1: Santa friends died, I'm assuming they're all friends with one another. Yeah,

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00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: that feels like a tight knit group. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they do have the Santa con so I'm sure they

854
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Speaker 1: know each other, know that, Like they're dropping like flies.

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Speaker 1: Foxes Online reporting mentioned the Santa story and and even

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Speaker 1: mentioned like and you know that there have been disproportionate

857
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Speaker 1: number of deaths. But they ended it at the They

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Speaker 1: edited at the end of a SOB story about how

859
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Speaker 1: one woman couldn't get a Santa for her country club party. Here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fucked up. That's not fair. It's not fair to

861
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Speaker 1: her or her country club, yeah right, or her country Yeah. Yeah,

862
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Speaker 1: that is so brutal. My brother has as Uh, he's

863
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Speaker 1: in charge of the Santa for his church in Malwa.

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Speaker 1: Edie said, our Santa is retiring and I was like,

865
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Speaker 1: I think that guy has been your Santa for he

866
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Speaker 1: goes almost twenty years. And I said, so, how old

867
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Speaker 1: does he goes? And I was like, that guy gets

868
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Speaker 1: to retire, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg gets to die.

869
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Speaker 1: You people fuck up, These people are old. Yeah, what's next?

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, saucy. He's retiring. He's eighty's. It turns

871
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Speaker 1: out he'd like to sit down. So the one that

872
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Speaker 1: got me Christmas tree shortage, we got our Christmas tree

873
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Speaker 1: extra earlier this year because oh you got it. Yeah,

874
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Speaker 1: we got it just because you know, even I think

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Speaker 1: MPR was saying, like there's a Christmas tree shortage. And so,

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Speaker 1: first of all, there are like slightly less Christmas trees

877
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Speaker 1: for sale this year because of the extreme heat and

878
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Speaker 1: flooding caused by climate change. But according to like the

879
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Speaker 1: National Christmas Tree Association, which is a real thing that

880
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Speaker 1: like monitors the supply and demand for Christmas trees. According

881
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Speaker 1: to them, there is no Christmas tree shortage. There was

882
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: a oversupply of trees between two thousand fifteen, and the

883
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Speaker 1: oversupply meant that farmers couldn't raise prices, which affected how

884
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Speaker 1: many trees they could plant, which like then lead to

885
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Speaker 1: the current system which so any like there's a Christmas

886
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Speaker 1: tree shortage story is actually there's the right amount of

887
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Speaker 1: Christmas trees that's actually right, with no leftovers the but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Doug Hundley, I don't I'm sure I don't have to

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Speaker 1: tell you this. But he's the spokesman for the National

890
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Speaker 1: Christmas Tree Association. But he said shortage talk has been

891
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Speaker 1: going on for the fifth year now, and those of

892
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Speaker 1: us at the n c T A National Christmas Tree Association,

893
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Speaker 1: I've tried to put water on that fire, but it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work, huh, they which shout out too. I

895
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Speaker 1: think I heard the same thing was going on in

896
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Speaker 1: Fox News earlier. Yeah. I just like that there's honesty

897
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Speaker 1: and like this trade organization where they could have been

898
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Speaker 1: like dahn, I mean, oh my god, get out reporting.

899
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Speaker 1: Probably important to get your Christmas tree as soon as

900
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Speaker 1: possibly like two yeah, maybe not, but they're like no, no, no,

901
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Speaker 1: no no no, Like maybe they're so they love the

902
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Speaker 1: spirit of Christmas and like no, no, no no, no, no,

903
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Speaker 1: it's bountiful. It's plentiful everyone. It's fine. There's gonna be

904
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Speaker 1: some woman who has a really fancy job who goes

905
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Speaker 1: back to her hometown and falls in love with the

906
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Speaker 1: guy who runs the Christmas tree farm exactly every Hallmark

907
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Speaker 1: movie here, I'm told. But guys, think about how it's

908
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Speaker 1: affecting the wood chipper industry heading into Christmas. You know,

909
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Speaker 1: there's fewer trees that have to go into the wood chipper,

910
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Speaker 1: which that can't be good for I don't know, John Dear,

911
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Speaker 1: who is a hero of errors here, right, Yeah, but

912
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Speaker 1: it just means fewer trees are being wasted. But this

913
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Speaker 1: is so jam like put together this list of just

914
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Speaker 1: the past ten years, like shortage panics around Christmas supplies.

915
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Speaker 1: So we've got Wall Street Journal from two thousand sixteen.

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Speaker 1: There may not be enough eggnog this year. Ce NBC

917
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Speaker 1: spike and eggnog sales could lead to Christmas shortage. Candy

918
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Speaker 1: King Crisis US takeover leaves Canadian retailers shorts one by one.

919
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Speaker 1: First of all, egg has anyone ever wanted more than

920
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: one fucking glass of eggnog in their lives? Oh? When

921
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Speaker 1: I had, I would just have like diarrhea from the

922
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Speaker 1: amount of like fat and like how rich it was?

923
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Can we cut this with regular milk? And then and

924
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Speaker 1: they only sell it in half gallons? And You're like,

925
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: why why isn't it sold at a tiny half and

926
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Speaker 1: half thing so that I can then have anyway kings

927
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Speaker 1: in Canada. It's almost like Wall Street. Arnold might have

928
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Speaker 1: like some connections with Wall Street or something. The reason

929
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Speaker 1: for yeah, what are we gonna do? Als on a

930
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Speaker 1: show for missing my Bye Bye drink? So candy can

931
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Speaker 1: drought candy Cane Crisis US takeover leaves Canadian retailers short.

932
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Speaker 1: Hake over again. I love the wording. They're like, we're

933
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Speaker 1: fucking we have like advanced on their border or something. Yeah, yeah,

934
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Speaker 1: northern Michigan just running over there. We all remember two

935
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Speaker 1: thou as the year of the Christmas missiletoe shortage, missiletoe

936
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Speaker 1: short the telegraph Christmas kissing at threat because of missiletoe shortage. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I want to find people who write headlines and bury

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Speaker 1: them alive head first, paint their feet with honey, then

939
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Speaker 1: release ants. I find deadlines to be the most infuriating.

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Speaker 1: And uh wow, I mean that's yeah. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people say that led to that led to the current

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Speaker 1: financial crisis. You know, right, Well, that's actually that's our hour, Jackie,

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Speaker 1: what it's been, and that's our hour, and that well,

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Speaker 1: this has been a delight you do. First of all,

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Speaker 1: can I tell you about that document you sent me

946
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Speaker 1: and how it should be its own blog? Hundreds of

947
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Speaker 1: pages of current event like I've already tweeted, Facebook, posted,

948
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Speaker 1: and sent via text at least five different lengths that

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Speaker 1: what I would do with it. I want it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I wanted the Living record a living document,

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Speaker 1: because it's a living document. That was terrifying once I

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Speaker 1: opened it, by the way, because I hadn't got to

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Speaker 1: the third paragraph, which said we're just we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: do it all. Don't worry about it. Yeah, well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. This was truly a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for having me you guys, And my name

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Speaker 1: is jacky Cation and the name of my new album

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Speaker 1: is um. But that's how you pronounced my last name.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna do good work for people pronouncing my

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Speaker 1: me doing stand up on YouTube and all the things.

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Speaker 1: And other than that, I have the two podcasts, but

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Speaker 1: Is the dork Forest a reference to the Dark Forest now.

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Speaker 1: The dork Forest is a reference to a joke I

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Speaker 1: did back in the early two thousand's about how I

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Speaker 1: hang out with anybody and to help and the premise

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Speaker 1: have to go to get to someone I would not

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Speaker 1: hang out with? And it turns out it was a

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Speaker 1: Civil War reenacting cut and so and so. The Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the bit itself is just sort of one of those

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Speaker 1: list jokes where I list different dorky things that I

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Speaker 1: have to go past two to get to the Civil

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Speaker 1: War reenacting guys. So when I started the podcast, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I kind of want to interview people about

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Speaker 1: what they love. So the dork Forest was. There's good.

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Speaker 1: There's a new sci fi book it's like the second

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Speaker 1: book and the Three Body Problem trilogy that is about

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Speaker 1: to be like a big show on HBO or what

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Speaker 1: or Netflix I think, and it's called The Dark Forest.

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Speaker 1: So oh so look forward to that being mistaken for

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Speaker 1: a thousand years. Yeah, it's a hit. You just tell

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Speaker 1: people the truth that they based the second book of

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Speaker 1: that series off of your podcast. That's right. Have you

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Speaker 1: read the n K j Emison Broken Earth trilogy. I

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Speaker 1: haven't won the Hugo three years in a row. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're they're gonna make a TV show out of that too,

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, Okay, and is there a tweet or

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Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying,

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Speaker 1: or the one that that made me laugh and made

1001
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Speaker 1: me angry yesterday was Brent Spiner. I think I played

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Speaker 1: data on Next Track Star Trek the Next Generation. He

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Speaker 1: tweeted something like, is this right? I spent a night

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Speaker 1: in jail for parking tickets, but you can just say

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Speaker 1: no to congressional subpoenas. And I was like, that was

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Speaker 1: That was my current one yesterday that made me laugh

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Speaker 1: in full of brag, Right, Miles, where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: What's tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and

1009
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Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other podcast

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Speaker 1: four twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we just

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Speaker 1: talk about our favorite show, ninety Day Fiance in all

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Speaker 1: its iterations. A tweet that I like first one is

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Speaker 1: from make Oxtail Cheap Again at c sim Simmas tweeted

1014
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Speaker 1: they really had us baby millennials dressing business casual to

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Speaker 1: go to the club, and for anybody who was hitting

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Speaker 1: the clubs and the odds and the tens, there was

1017
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Speaker 1: just the weirdest dress codes back then. Yeah, you really

1018
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Speaker 1: had to look on some button up like leather shoe nonsense,

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Speaker 1: and we were dressing. I mean, look they were. We're

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Speaker 1: all being indoctrinated for our jobs as uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: middling corporate workers. Then the next one is from Jen

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Speaker 1: Richards at smart ass Gen tweeted, Hey, in case you

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Speaker 1: weren't already feeling old today, I just heard an intern

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Speaker 1: say they loved Successions new weekly drop model and that

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Speaker 1: it was a smart way to get people looked. There

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Speaker 1: you go, I mean that is it's innovative. They're they're

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Speaker 1: at the cutting edge of content of reinventing television. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: they've done it all right. Derek at Derek three three,

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Speaker 1: I think that's their phone number, so I want redressed.

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Speaker 1: I said, when someone is knighted by the queen, they

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Speaker 1: should have to fight for the queen. They should have

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Speaker 1: sent Paul McCartney to Iraq, which I just wish they

1033
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Speaker 1: had done that. And at Mark Dubbs tweeted, just got

1034
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Speaker 1: my fourth wall blown out by Kurt vond to get

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Speaker 1: which I liked. To find me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zigeist dot com where

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Speaker 1: he post our episodes and our footnotes where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy? Let's do

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Speaker 1: a track by Pluma Blue. I think maybe I've done

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Speaker 1: one Puma Blue track before, but Bluoma Blues like just

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Speaker 1: one of these amazing artists who's like a singer, songwriter, producer,

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Speaker 1: multi like just does it all. Uh, and their music

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Speaker 1: is just so so just rich and it it feels

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Speaker 1: good like there's you can you can feel the musicianship

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Speaker 1: in it and the creativity. So this is track from

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Speaker 1: Puma Blue called Oil Slick, So check that one out alright. Well.

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Speaker 1: away for free. That is going to do it for

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Speaker 1: us this morning. But we are back this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what's trending, and we will talk to y'all then.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bye,