WEBVTT - What Do You Think is Being Covered Up? 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.200 Hi, everyone, Welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.440 special episode that we are doing with our friend Gandhi 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:13.720 from Sauce on the side. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.280 I know, I'm so excited about this episode. By the way, 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.680 I've been waiting on it. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:19.640 We are huge fans of your show. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.800 Same. I think you guys are amazing and I love 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:24.840 what you do. I said all the time, I love 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.680 women in science. It's not that women are not in science. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.000 I feel like women don't get highlighted enough who are 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:31.920 in science. I think the guys get a lot of attention, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:33.920 but when women are doing good things, I love it. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.920 So yeah, thanks for doing this with me. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.360 It's really interesting that you say that, because, especially in 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:44.519 my field, it's predominantly women now. But when I started training, 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.760 it was like the older people that were there there 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.879 were more men. So it's just interesting how it's transitioning. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.640 And I bet that the women are just doing amazing jobs. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:53.640 Oh yeah, totally. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.040 So we have like a ton of stuff to talk about, right, Yes, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.600 I want to know how you guys. We're doing a 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.720 crossover episode, so your listeners are going to hear me, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.119 and my listeners are going to hear you, and I'm 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.199 excited about that for a lot of reasons, but mostly 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:10.720 because I could talk to you all for a million 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.000 years about one hundred different things. We got started talking 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.320 about Charlie Kirk in the hallway. Yeah, I don't know 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.560 where you guys want to start, So I feel like 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.360 you should. You should take the lead on this and 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.280 tell us where we're going. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.720 All right, So I'm I've heard a rumor that they 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.160 said that he did not have an autopsy done. Mm hmm, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.160 Charlie Kirk. But okay, I would like to know where 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:37.479 that came from. Officially, I think that it is very unlike. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.199 I think that's unlikely, just the way that the law 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.800 works in every jurisdiction. If you have a homicide case, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:51.080 it's an automatic autopsy. So I think that, you know, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.840 we're used to maybe in LA, especially the records are public. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.160 We can go on and we could get people's full 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.080 autopsy reports, including celebrit He's like Michael Jackson. But certain 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.400 states are not that open, and Utah could possibly be 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.440 one of them that they just say it's none of 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.760 the public's business and you're not having that information. So 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:19.080 I think that definitely after so when a person dies 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:23.640 in that situation at the hospital. The hospital is required 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.560 to report that death, and they would report it to 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.440 the Medical Examiner's office and then they would come pick 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.400 up the body and bring it to the MORG and 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.799 do the autopsy. I don't see how in any world 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.160 that wouldn't have been done. They don't even care if 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.960 he had religious exemptions or anything like. They're doing it 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.400 because it's going to be a court case and they're 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.560 going to have to testify, And how could anyone testify 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.000 if no one examined it. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.280 So the confusion is probably no autopsy versus no autopsy report, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.840 at least to the public. You're saying there has to 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:01.160 be one. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.160 There has to be otherwise the guy who we could 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.720 talk about if he did it. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.960 Tyler Robinson, if he did it, because I think we're 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.080 kind of all on the same page, like, no, I 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.480 think we don't think so at this point. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.240 I think a lot of people are on that page. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.120 I was. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.480 I was fallen for a little while until that the 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.560 text messages came out and then I'm like, Okay, this 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.880 is weird. If they were if they were eighty year olds, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.200 you might believe it or something. I just don't even 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.920 at our age, Like if you looked at your text 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.040 messages with your friends, they would be all abbreviations and. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.160 Without a doubt, Yeah, I wouldn't have like some Shakespearean 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.440 wording to my significant other about nonthing. It would be 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:42.920 very weird. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.840 Yeah, I just thought. I just thought that that was 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.920 weird and it just makes me question things now. But 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.160 for sure, if they're going to try to prosecute someone, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.240 there has to be an autopsy because otherwise, how are 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.800 you gonna prove anything just because of the footage? Like, no, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.600 that that could be for all you know, right, Like. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.640 Could they hold on to the report until the trial happens, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.160 because we like we don't always get them right away. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.760 Most of the time when they come out, it's because 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.680 TMS reporters are waiting and they get them immediately. But 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.080 we had requested the one for in the David case, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.240 the less Revus autopsy report. Yes, and they're basically like, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.120 you're not getting it until this case. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.240 Is we still haven't gotten it, and we right, and 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:23.880 you paid for it, paid. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.360 For it, and they sent me one page that said 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.240 nothing and that's that. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.200 How much does it cost to request an autopsy report? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:32.200 That one was. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.320 Thirty four dollars, I believe. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.880 And you can request this from anyone anywhere, because I 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.200 think I might go request an autopsy report about something 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.680 that I've been interested in for a while. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:47.200 I believe anybody can get certain offices depending on you. Yeah, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:53.800 like for La, Yes, like New York doesn't oftentimes release 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.000 the whole report. They might just give a diagnosis or 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.400 something like that. There's all these different rules depending where 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.480 you are, but there's lots like let's talk about the 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:09.200 Brian Coberger Idaho for a case, for example. This whole time, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.040 I haven't written about it on my website because I 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:14.640 was like, I want to wait and see what the 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.880 autopsy reports say. They never got released, and then they 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.440 just released a bunch of stuff because he pled guilty, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.120 and they're still not really autopsy reports. They're more like 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.680 summery too. Yeah, but I've never seen an actual autopsy 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.960 report on each one of those victims yet. There's summaries 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.760 maybe some describing some of the wounds, but it's not 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:42.440 a full autopsy report, so that we might not ever 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.279 see that, And I guess for public interest it's probably 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.039 they should because there's so many questions. But at the 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.080 same time, they're scared to death that people are going 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.880 to pick it apart like another case that we're going 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:58.520 to talk about later. Okay, So so that right there 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:03.080 I think is not correct. Information is I could be wrong, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.240 but I just don't see in a world if a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.000 court case is happening, how there could not be an autopsy. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.159 I mean, it's fascinating that the more information we have 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.640 at our fingertips, it's like we have no information because 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.640 you're getting seventy thousand different people saying different things at 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.080 one time. Most of them haven't actually done the research 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.240 on how this works, or talk to a specialist who says, hey, 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.400 you can't have a murder without an autopsy report. It 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.880 doesn't mean the autopsy report is going to be accurate 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.120 or honest, but there will be a report to which 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.560 that was my question to you, How easy is it 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.160 to fix an autopsy report or to report something differently 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.160 from what you actually find? 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.520 Well, if that, if if I were to receive that 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.080 particular case, or any just anyone in this field, should 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.680 I'll tell you what should be done. They're going to 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.440 photograph the hell out of it. Right, So, even if 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.520 the report maybe doesn't one hundred percent match. They could 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.120 look at the pictures and be like an And that 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.479 could happen time time, especially if someone is shot a 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.080 bunch of times and there's multiple wounds to document, you 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.240 might miss one when you're writing it down. When we 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.600 are taking when we're looking at a body on the table, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.560 we take notes, and oftentimes those notes get very bloody 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.320 because we're using pens and touching organs, and the pens 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.440 are bloody, the PaperWorks bloody. So then, like when I 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.520 used to do it, I would put it in a 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.160 biohazard bag that was clear, and then take it back 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.960 to my desk and rewrite what I wrote. So sometimes, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.960 you know, there could just be a simple mistake as 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.080 far as that goes. But in a case like his, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:48.520 I feel like there would have been witnesses to see 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:53.440 the autopsy, lots of documentation, just lots, and there's going 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.640 to be from not only from the autopsy, but also 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.080 from you know, he did go to the hospital and 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.160 they did appear to do some intervention on him, so 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.800 that would also be added, you know, correlated together to 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.640 make sure that everyone's account And then of course we 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.480 all saw the video, all of us, like everyone in 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:15.240 the world. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.120 Seventy five different angles. Yeah, and I think if people 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.200 haven't been following along with this, there just are a 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.320 lot of inconsistencies with what the public is being told 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.600 and what now you're finding out, including the people who 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.800 are going back and looking at Google trend searches and 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.719 things that people searched before the incident, and how there 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.480 was a spike in certain things and then all of 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.839 a sudden that information was wiped, and how they're saying 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.280 this is a what do they call it? A thirty 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:41.720 six rifle. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:42.440 Something like that. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.360 Clearly I'm not an expert of this, but there are 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.199 a lot of gun experts who say a bullet from 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.000 that specific rifle would cause so much more damage to 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.679 a human body than what actually happened, and that they 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.200 don't believe that what we saw was an entrance wound. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.720 They believe that was an exit wound. And now there 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.440 are a lot of theories that, oh, it came from 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.400 his lava leer mic. It was a very set up 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.360 assassination of a person who people wanted to be silenced 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.240 for a lot of different reasons. So I'm fascinated by this. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.800 I'm fascinated by how everything has played out since and 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.280 how little we've heard about or from the actual suspect, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.360 who Again, I don't think any of us really believe 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.800 that this person did it, but it's just it's a wild, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.839 wild ride, and it's one of those things where I wonder, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.480 are we ever going to get the truth here? You 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.360 guys have to have some cases like that where you 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:35.960 feel the same way too, well. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.640 I mean like JFK is the first, right, Yeah, perfect 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.640 example of forensic experts going back and looking at it 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.040 and being like, yeah, no, there's no way. And I agree. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:54.319 I mean, you know, my brother has a weapon similar 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.680 to that that he uses for hunting, and I was 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.080 really asking him like, what's the purpose of this, and 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.680 it's just like, the purpose is that you have a 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.160 moving target, you have one chance, and it's to cause 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.480 a lot of disruption inside of the body to make 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:10.679 sure that they're down. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:15.600 And talking about big animals, yeah, not a small not exactly. Yeah. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:21.680 So you know, my expertise is more in pathology rather 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:26.000 than gunshot wounds. So I don't want to say I personally, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.680 just the things that I've seen during my training and everything, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.240 I've seen a lot of injuries by that type of 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.720 a weapon. And they're a lot they're a lot more 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.640 gruesome than that particular one was. I mean, obviously he died, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.200 so it did what it was supposed to do in 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:50.000 a sense, but there's just lots of different theories that 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.680 that could be an exit wound, and you're just getting 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:58.400 different reporting, I mean from a couple legitimate sources I 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.439 guess you would consider legitimate news. Like some people were 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.959 saying he was wearing a bulletproofess, some people were saying 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.600 he wasn't. That could change things because the bullet could 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.000 ricochet off of that and things like that. So we 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.920 don't have like any documentation except to hearsay at this point. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.160 Even some of the interviews like his friends have done afterwards, 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.800 you could kind of get a series of like he 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.839 was in the car and they were saying there was 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.920 a chance that they would restored a pulse and all 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.320 of that. But like when I saw that video, it 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:34.760 was very jarring because I knew he was dead, right, Yeah, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.000 So it's just this is just going to be the 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.120 way life is from now on with every single thing 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.160 that happens as far because anytime something goes on social media, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.760 you just have people that are experts in every single field. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.760 I just saw this cool video. Actually, I'll send it 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.240 to you if I could find it. But this guy 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.760 had the same as that gun, and he was a 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.600 firearms expert, and he had put it together with this 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.600 little key they said he used that. He took it 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.280 apart and was showing how long it took to do 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.199 it and how big it was and how you couldn't 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.280 like jump off the side of the building with it 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.240 in your pants and all of this stuff. And you're 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.320 just looking at that, and that guy's not involved in 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.120 the case. But when you look at him doing it, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.880 you're like, well, there is there another way to do it? 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.520 Or is like this it and that was not possible? 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.000 So it does you do listen to people and you're like, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:39.440 oh shit, like maybe maybe this is this is not 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.000 how they're telling us. And honestly, like they have a 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.920 history of this. I don't know who they is necessarily, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.839 but the government with JFK. You know what's funny. My 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.960 husband and my kids we took a road trip and 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.160 we drove through Dallas because I wanted to see the 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:04.120 sixth floor of the of the book. Yeah, I always 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.320 mess this up because my father in law always calls 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:11.160 it the depository or the depository. You got it right, Yeah, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.040 I got it right. And then I'm like, I keep 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.920 telling them I'm gonna kill you because you're gonna make 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.680 me slip one day. But yeah, So they have a 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.240 museum on the sixth floor there where Oswald was supposed 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.960 to be when he shot him. And I thought it 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.120 was really bizarre because the whole corner of that building 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.680 where he was standing at that window was blocked off 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.320 with a large piece of plexiglass and nobody was allowed 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.920 to go near it, right, and I'll. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.560 Actually get a good view of what his view would 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.200 be exactly Deally Plaza. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.040 Ridiculous, Yes, And you're just like, there's a reason for that, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.600 because they know that people that are experts are gonna 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.400 go up there and take pictures and measurements and optics 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.439 or whatever they're gonna do and be like, yeah, no, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:48.319 that didn't happen. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.120 Yeah, And even they say the way that the Secret 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.280 Service reacted to it at the time, slowing down after 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.680 they thought there was a threat versus speeding up. I 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.880 mean there are people you guys went there obviously. My 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.920 parents used to live in Dallas. Oh, my dad took me, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.200 and he was just all over the place loved this, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.280 and he was talking about how there were so many 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.600 discrepancies and now there are all these people on that area, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.840 in that area who will show you kind of what 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.160 you were saying, like trajectories of actually he was hit 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.319 by more than one bullet from more than one angle. 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.640 Then they slowed down to sort of let it happen, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.040 and then they sped off. It was just wild and 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.560 then of course conveniently leave Harvey Oswald is killed before. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.880 He got talk, which was which was so outrageous, right, Like, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.560 you have the most wanted man right now in custody 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.120 and you're just like letting him walk around like that. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.440 You just can't even believe this stuff is true. But see, but. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.440 Like people are saying, Tyler Robinson could be. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:50.360 It's yeah exactly. But even think about the jewel heist 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.600 that just happened, Jake, You're just like, this is still 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.480 happening that You're just like, how is this possible that that, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.680 in twenty twenty five, with such things that should be protected, 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.160 that somebody was able to just go get it right. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:07.080 It didn't seem that sophisticated at the Louver, No, it 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.800 was just you know, it seemed very amateur hour, but 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.600 they were able to get all these priceless jewels. You know, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.400 they immediately took all the jewels out and sold them off. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.120 They're already gone. It's not the same as trying to 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.880 move artwork. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.800 Yeah, and I mean a lot of people are saying 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.560 this hints at an inside job with the because it 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.880 was such a cake walking broad daylight. Yeah, so ridiculous. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.320 There are other cases that we wanted to talk about too, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.800 and one of them, well, actually, what did you guys 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.760 what cases have been on your minds lately? 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.160 But what have we been covering the most recently? 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.560 Well, we listen. We I don't know what happened last 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.680 week that Sylvia Brown the psychic has been making the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.640 rounds on social media. Still alive, No, she's dead. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.880 Well, she's an internet sensation as of last week. I 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.320 woke up one morning she had sent me twelve videos 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.240 of horrible things she was saying people, and then Etel 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.040 did a skin of her that weekend. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.320 It was so weird. So I was like, oh, we 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:10.280 gotta we gotta dig into this because it's like you're 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.480 around my age, right, So it's like that just it 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.880 reminds me of you know, you get home from school 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.680 and it was on at that weird like three o'clock 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.160 hour that nobody's really home except moms or something, you 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.480 know what I mean, Like only certain people were seeing that, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.880 and now you look at it and you're like, this 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.560 lady was so outrageous the stuff she was saying, like 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.520 the mental harm she was probably causing on people. Like 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.680 there was a woman that was saying that she was 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.800 having problems struggling with fertility, and she was like, well, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.160 I ever have my own child and she's like no, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.280 Well what about Like it's so messed up, and you're like, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.240 that's terrible. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.000 What if just what if she really is psychic and 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.720 she really did get that information was just passing it 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.720 on because she was very like blunt about a lot 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:03.040 of things, ridicular death those I sure didn't I think 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:03.960 that's right said. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.520 And then she was gaslighting a woman whose husband died 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.760 in nine to eleven that he actually drowned and she's like, no, 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.040 he was a firefighter. At nine to eleven. She co going, no, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:12.560 he drowned. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.639 She's like, I keep seeing him in water. And then 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.399 she was like maybe it was the hose and I 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.520 was like, yeah, it's the first reported fire, you know, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.399 drowning from a fire hose hose. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:22.160 Oh lord. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.760 But by the way, that the cause of death in 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.240 those cases was like a blunt trauma building collapse, not 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.440 like was there fires being put out? Really, I'm sure 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.120 there were, but like we all saw what happened, right, So. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.160 And then we have the case. Do you know about 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.360 the fake pregnancy scandal that's taking over TikTok right now? 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.240 I don't, but Diamond is nodding her head, yes, So 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.080 please and for me. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.480 This girl named Kia Cousins allegedly faked her well, not 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.679 even allegedly. There's a bunch of videos and stuff. She 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.480 faked a pregnancy by wearing a fake belly. She was 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:59.080 giving her family ultrasound pictures, videos of the baby kicking. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.840 She even said the baby had a heart defect that 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.000 won doctor's appointment. So then all of a sudden, she 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.520 gets mad at the baby's father and decides he's not 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.760 going to be in the hospital room when she gives birth. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.800 So I said, red flag right there, because even if 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.320 you really don't want your partner in there or whatever, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.440 somebody's gonna come visit you at the hospital. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.040 So she has this. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.479 Baby allegedly, and then her it comes time for her 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.320 family to beat it and they're holding this child and 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.040 they're like, oh, the baby's cold, it's not moving, it's 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:30.640 not breathing. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.760 It was a doll. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.320 Oh God, thank god. I thought, okay, okay, So she 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:41.959 is clearly unwell mentally, yes, right, what where did this 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.679 come from? What did she think she was gonna be 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.879 able to pull off with all of this? Like, we 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.080 just does nobody know that you're pregnant? If your face, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:49.840 I guess, if you're not that close and people aren't 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:50.600 touching you, what do I know? 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:51.080 To me? 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:51.440 Though? 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.679 I saw a video from her baby shower and you 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.720 can see the strap of the fake belly and saying, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.480 why is nobody questioning this? 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.080 Because it's weird? 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.359 And then you like this is remember this. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.600 Girl a couple months ago lake and Snelling. Her name 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.160 was she was a cheerleader at a university who gave 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.679 birth and put the baby in a closet, and the 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.200 baby was found dead in a bag in her closet. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.200 So when when you go back and look at pictures 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.199 that she was posting on social media, any person in 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.879 the world she was a cheerleader. You could tell that 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.800 her body was cheerleader. It wasn't like, you know, my 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.679 she had a cheerleader body. And then all of a 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:42.480 sudden she she looked pregnant, like a pregnant person, and 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:47.160 no one around her said anything, but like, I'm pretty 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.720 sure everybody thought they thought it. It's just like there's 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.160 certain things you just don't say out left right right. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.800 One of them is like, is that bump fake? One 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.240 of them is are you pregnant if you're just fat? 0:19:59.359 --> 0:19:59.760 Right? Like? 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.639 So I think that that's what it had to do with, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.760 like people saw it, but they just. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:10.000 It's the same with cancer fakers too, write cancer fakers. Yeah, 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.520 a lot of people do it, but it's one thing 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.560 you're never gonna doubt that somebody actually, would you know, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.440 have an illness like that or go to the lengths 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.360 and make something up, because if you did, you're really 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.280 horrible person. Then people don't want to accept that. So 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.159 I think it's kind of the same thing. One of 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.359 her friends was saying she was a pathological liar and 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:32.520 she suspected it was fake, but nobody wanted to say anything. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:33.679