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I had so many mailbag 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: question marks wanted to rattle off a few so or 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: many because I haven't been able to get to them 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: all this week, So we thought we'd do a little 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Saturday podcast mail bag only. Addition at John Middlcoff is 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: my Instagram That is the way that you get in 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the mailbag, Very easy Instagram wide open fire in those dms, 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: like Nicholas, What do you think the reason is behind 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: all these teams struggling more than normal passing this year? 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: It seems like more than a coincidence to me, with 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: all the receivers won thirty MILLI year, do you think 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: the league is attempting to establish the run? I know 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: it's a long shot, but I'm also tired of all 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: these all three of my receivers wanting a combining for 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: less than twenty points in fantasy? Am I crazy? I 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: think anytime you have a small sample size, it's something 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. But I think we need 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: more data, like does this happen for two months than 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: something dramatic has shifted? You know? Mel Kiper on Thursday 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: screaming about how you shouldn't be able to put the 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: two safeties deep obviously is a dumb comment, but I 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: do think teams the influx of all the Star Wars receivers, 57 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: just in terms of their talent is not really debatable. 58 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: So the easiest way to not give up explosive plays 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: which you start playing pee wee football, you start playing 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: in high school football obviously in college or the pros, 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, and anyone, even if you don't play past 62 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: high school. If you're a football fan and you watch content, 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: coaches talk about this all the time. Stop explosive plays, 64 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: no explosive plays, like we're not gonna give up big plays, 65 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: and if you don't, you have a decent chance. I 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: think you cheat that way. Clearly. Defensive linemen are extremely fast. 67 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I would say the speed on the total on the 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: aggregate of just the top I don't know, fifty to 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: sixty defensive linemen spread out throughout the league. The speed 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: is probably top to bottom has never been faster. I mean, 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: there's always been fast defensive linemen, but I don't think 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the depth of the speed. It's probably training, probably a 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of different things, but I think you just have 74 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: these defensive linemen rushing the pastor at warp speed. Also 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Stucky and I talked about this on Friday. Coaches are 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: talking about this NonStop and have been hammering this forever 77 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: is college football, which I love to watch, but it's 78 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: not a pro style game really anymore. It is a 79 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: lot of what forever was in high school football, completely spread. 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Look at the coach he gives you to protect, and 81 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: most of these guys aren't exactly working up through the pocket. 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: We're in the NFL that there is no just sit back, 83 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: pack the ball over and over again. Look at the coach, 84 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: get you know the plays that are guaranteed to work. 85 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: It's much more complex because of the talent you're playing. 86 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: It would be harder to do that in college if 87 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the talent was constantly equal. It's why when these top 88 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: teams play each other, right, it usually is a more 89 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: I would say contested game. I mean Texas playing teams 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: up sixty five to nothing in half like that would 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: never happen in the NFL. And I think there are 92 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: just a lot of different factors. But maybe quarterback play 93 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: is worse because of some of the fundamentals you can 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: get away with at the lower levels that used to 95 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: be taught because so many teams ran pro style offenses. 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, it's just something I'm obviously 97 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: monitoring close. What are your thoughts on Howie Roseman because 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I personally think he's super overrated. Everyone loved the Buyard move, 99 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: but he was horrible for them. There was the move 100 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: that got Dots in for a third rounder, and he 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: had won catch last week. Both Cooper d Joan Dijon, Cooper, Dejane, 102 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Cooper Dejeene. It's funny when I saw Degene, I thought 103 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: DeShawn so I was a little off. Cooperjon Dejeane, the 104 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: White corner, and Nolan Smith have been horrible draft picks. 105 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean Cooper's been there for two games. I think 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: Nolan Smith is like, he's got to be a good 107 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher. That's his position, edge rush, but can he 108 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: play the run. I think one thing that's killing him. Listen, 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I worked for Howie. He fired me one time on 110 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: the phone. It's not like I text that often with him, 111 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: but whenever I need something, he's there. I think he's very, 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: very good at his job. I do believe that his 113 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: understanding of value, his understand of working a draft. But 114 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: like anyone, like not every move is gonna work. I 115 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: think when you look at like getting aj Brown for 116 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: the seventeenth pick, that was a steal. Their starting left 117 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: tackle was a seventh round pick that had never played football, 118 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: So like getting Sakwon Barkley for twenty seven million dollars guaranteed. 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Their problem, which he's responsible for, is Jordan Davis has 120 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: been a disaster and they chose to take Jordan Davis 121 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: over Kyle Hamilton. If they would have a due over 122 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: on that one, I think we all know what they 123 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: would do. They'd take Kyle Hamilton. But I think the 124 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: problem because I always heard like Jordan Davis, super high 125 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: character guy, just great person. His battle was being kind 126 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: of fat, you know, relative to his size. But you 127 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: weigh three hundred and fifty pounds, Like weight is gonna 128 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: be something you battle. Hell, I'm right there with him. 129 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: We're all different, you know, numbers based on our size, 130 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: but weight is a problem for him, and when you 131 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: get bit, you become fatigued. And to me, the only 132 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: way to like with a guy like that, it really 133 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: comes down to, like, are you a football addict, like 134 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: it's football everything to you? Or you just kind of 135 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: playing football because you're so big and so talented. And 136 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I would say through two years, in a couple of games, 137 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: you have to go like, yeah, he might be a 138 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: good guy. It's not like he's you know, getting in trouble. 139 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: But I do think it's fair to question, like how 140 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: much this guy love football, because there's no way a 141 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: guy with that much talent and that much size should 142 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: not have a huge impact in the game. And Jalen 143 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Carter was a risky pick. It was a very risky pick. 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: And if he becomes the next Fletcher Cox, I think 145 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: they'll be in good shape. But if it kind of 146 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: goes like it's been going, they're gonna have problems. I 147 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: think how he's good at his job, but like any GM, 148 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: like you make mistakes. Now, the other thing is he 149 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: did hire Sirianni, who I think we all just say 150 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the same thing. What is he doing now? The Eagles, 151 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: because their owners willing to spend some much money, will 152 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: buy coordinators who are sweet, But then all the pressure 153 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: is on Kellen and Fangio. Like I'm telling you, I'm 154 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: not just saying this again. The guy fired me. He's 155 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: really really talented at his job. But if they don't win, 156 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: like obviously, it'll be because some guys underachieve, but their 157 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: downfall will be Nick Sirianni's their coach. This guy is 158 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: hitting me from Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam. This is Lewis. 159 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people talk shit about social media, 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: and I agree, like it's I wish I didn't check 161 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: my phone as much as I do. I wish I 162 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: didn't need the dopamine hits of a scroll. I lived 163 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: in a time when this didn't exist, and I was 164 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: happy as ever. But there are a lot of benefits 165 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: to this. There really are, and in my world. I 166 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: see it in Maria's world, my fiance, how she does business, 167 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: the ability to connect to people. So it's easy to 168 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: be negative on all this, and there was a lot 169 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: of truth to that, but the power in this is 170 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. It really is that a guy from ho 171 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Chi Minh named Lewis can just hit me with a question. 172 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: We've seen the NFL International games in Europe in South America. 173 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: What chance do we give there to be an Asian 174 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: international series over the next few years. When I was 175 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: a kid, I remember the forty nine ers used to 176 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: play preseason games in Japan. Pretty sure that happened several times. 177 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the West Coast teams. The NFL would 178 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: play preseason games over there. They've they've clearly always dabbled, 179 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: They've gotten more aggressive. I've never been to Japan, though, 180 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I would love to go. My good buddy Brian Hawkins, 181 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: who played college baseball when his buddies was playing over 182 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: there and make a good I mean, it's not like 183 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: a couple of year, million dollar contract and went over 184 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: for a week and hung out and went to a 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: game and said it was the most incredible experience. The 186 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: place is so clean, it's like I really want, Like 187 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Japan is on my bucket list for sure, but I don't. 188 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: I think it's logistically a little hard for the NFL. 189 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Raiders fan. It seems like we have a 190 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: good defense, players and weapons on offense. What level of 191 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: quarterback play do you feel would have to enter the 192 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: building before the Raiders could be a force. I think 193 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: if they had like a Derek Carr. I understand the 194 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: breakup for Derek, so I'm not gonna play Monday morning 195 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: quarterback on that situation. Joshua was the coach. It wasn't 196 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: working those two guys, like I get it, even though 197 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: they let him walk for nothing. But now, part of 198 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: that was he had a no trade clause. It was 199 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: a little complicated. But I think if you had him 200 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: like the version that you had for the majority of 201 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: his career right now now, you'd be a playoff team 202 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: or definitely in the mix. You know. I think Baker 203 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Mayfield guys like that somewhere ten to fifteen, you would 204 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: be a real threat. I do think it's hard with 205 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew Gardner Minshew to me is a good example 206 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and I like him. He's funny. Everyone I know that 207 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: has been around him really likes him. He has a 208 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: very very high approval rating in the NFL. And I 209 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: don't mean this as a slight because he's a much 210 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: better athlete than I could ever even have dreamt of being, 211 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: and what he's accomplished is incredible. But I don't know 212 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: if guys like him are really playing in the NFL. 213 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, and he throws a lot 214 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: of balls all over the map, it would have got 215 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: guys killed. He was doing it last year in Indy, 216 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: And to me, he's a big beneficiary. And part of 217 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: this is just the world's changed, Like a lot of 218 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: industries changed. Hell, I wouldn't have existed twenty years ago, right, 219 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: So it's like things change. And so it's I'm not 220 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: acting like he doesn't deserve to be a starting quarterback 221 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but like he's just I think it's 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: a little smoke and mirrors at times with him. So 223 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: like last week was cool, but I'm not a huge 224 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: believer in him as a player. Hands down favorite pod 225 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: raw up here information. After listening, I found we have 226 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: much in common. Fresno raised, went to school up north 227 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: UOP in Stockton, Pete Carroll alumni there, just recently moved 228 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: to Arizona Glendale area. I like this guy. Question isn't 229 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: football related? Don't mind if it doesn't make the pod 230 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: too late? Now, what has been your favorite part of 231 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: living in each of those areas? Keep up the content? Well. 232 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I was born and raised in Davis, which is right 233 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: next to Sacramento, which it's separated by the Cosway UC 234 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Davis sac State or rivals in sports in football and 235 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: it's called the Cosway Classic. For those of you not 236 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: familiar with the area, we'll probably depending on traffic, I 237 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: could get to where I lived in the Bay Area 238 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: in forty five minutes probably hour to the city. And 239 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: like growing up in Davis, so it was just a 240 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: college town as when I was really young, it was 241 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: really more of a farming town. David starred as nag school. 242 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: My dad was a farmer. So then I went to 243 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: cal Paly, which the Central Coast I loved, but I 244 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: think Fresno was just, you know, looking back, that experience 245 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: for in my life was. It changed my life forever. 246 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I have family that lives there. I have aunt and 247 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: uncle that have three boys. My youngest cousin, Kenny, of 248 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the family were the same age, graduated high school the 249 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: same year, so I've been close with them majority of 250 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: my life. So I had been to Fresno a lot, 251 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: but my cousin Kenny had played at Fresne State in 252 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the two thousands as a long snapper, and so I 253 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: was so close to the program from as an outsider. 254 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: And then I can't remember exactly how it happened, but 255 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: when I interviewed there, he got me in touch with 256 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: the guy Drew Hill, who's now Oklahoma's general manager, and 257 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: they gave me a GA spot. It's it changed my 258 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: life forever, and I would not be doing this without that, 259 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. So I love Fresno. 260 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: I loved working at Fresno State. I love the guys. 261 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I still follow a lot of dudes that 262 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: were on the team on Instagram and you know, DM 263 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: with them all the time. And it was it was awesome, 264 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: it really was, and it was it was an incredible experience. 265 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: It's hot, but you know Sacramento where I grew up, 266 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: it was hot. I would say, Arizona, you know, the 267 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Bay Area. For me, it was just being close to 268 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: family and it got my radio start and kind of 269 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: got the ball rolling. But I felt like kind of 270 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: stuck in Neutral. It just wasn't a place for me anymore. 271 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: And I would say the thing that Arizona has that 272 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine Silicon Valley had this twenty thirty years ago. 273 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: There's just an energy here, you know. And you hear 274 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: about this a lot of places like Nashville, Austin, Miami, 275 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: New York City. You know, different places have different energies. 276 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a special like business entrepreneurial, just go 277 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: get our energy here, and you know, unlike California, a 278 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: little less laws than regulations, and fucking people pedal the 279 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: metal and you can just make shit happen. And the 280 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: area is so clean, it's so nice. If this was 281 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: a stock, I would have put every penny I had 282 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: into it because I think this area is only going 283 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: to continue to just boom. I mean this in Vegas. 284 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: If those two were stocks on the S and P 285 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: five hundred, I would have loaded every penny I had 286 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: because I just think there were so many benefits here. 287 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: From a personal standpoint, met my future wife. You know, 288 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: the tax benefits are fucking incredible when you come from 289 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: a place like California. So it's just this is I 290 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: fucking love Arizona, specifically Scottsdale, but I've always liked the valley. 291 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: I like the valley. I mean I grew up going there. 292 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: My dad was a farmer, so I spent so much 293 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: time between basically Sacramento down to Bakersfield. Very comfortable in 294 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: that area. Those are my people love the show. Would 295 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: like to stay anonymous. If this gets to a mailbag, okay, 296 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you will stay anonymous, will not read your name. As 297 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a lifelong Cowboys fan going on thirty years, it's like 298 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Jerry's assistant. I can't remember a season where they have 299 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: had a good run defense, let alone defensive tackles that 300 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: are better than the average from week to week. It's 301 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: almost comical at this point that they have had the 302 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: same problem since I've been watching football. It seems like 303 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: to me the only solution for hope or change or 304 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: the one constant in that building is Jerry. Do you 305 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: think any change at the top will lead to better results? 306 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: A year is at the Cowboys will be decent enough 307 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: this year to keep McCarthy, and Jerry will talk himself 308 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: into doing the same thing he does every offseason. In 309 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: my opinion, they should go after a young coach like 310 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowick in Houston. If McCarthy makes 311 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs again, regardless of what happens in those playoff games. 312 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: To think that firing Mark or Mike in hiring one 313 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: of those two guys would be an upgrade would be 314 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: pretty big assumption, it really would. I know, Mike has 315 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: his faults and is not no one's comparing him to 316 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: Belichick or Bill Walsh, but he's pretty good. He really is. 317 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: He ain't picking the players Jerry is. Listen, Jerry's eighty 318 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: one years old. So just based on human history, like, 319 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: how much time does he have left? I hope he 320 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: lives long, but it's you know, most human beings. I mean, 321 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: what's the average lifespan of an American citizen, Now maybe 322 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: it's higher. What's the American lifespan of someone with his 323 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: level of wealth. You have better access to doctors and 324 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: medicine stuff. So let's just say he lives ten more years. 325 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna come a point I mean, most people are 326 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: not warn Buffet, that are just still pretty cognitively sharp 327 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: and strong. Even though Buffett's like voice is kind of 328 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: getting weird, but clearly I think his mind is still 329 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: pretty strong. He's kind of an outlier. I do think 330 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: whenever the transition happens, whether Jerry just you know, one 331 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: day kind of starts losing it, slipping little Al Davis 332 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: style the late two thousands. You know, though, those guys 333 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: just don't give up power. They just don't. They could 334 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of go down to their dying days. I do 335 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: think Steven will be a lot like some of these 336 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: other owners' kids. You know, Jerry, if you've ever been 337 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: around a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder 338 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: that gets money and has a lot of success, it 339 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: doesn't go away like you kind of have that the 340 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: rest of your life. You know, Donald has had his 341 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: personality since we have been publicly watching him. Some of you, 342 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: if you're older than me, longer, but I mean Donald's 343 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of been the same way for thirty plus years. 344 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: It's funny, as everyone liked him before he went into politics, 345 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: but that chip on his shoulder, rich guy, And I 346 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: think sometimes people are just don't have a huge chip 347 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: on their shoulder as a rich guy, and they just 348 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: become kind of cool with it and they're just not 349 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: as angry and edgy all the time. Like Cubans kind 350 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: of always had that right huge chip on his shoulder. 351 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: It feels like some of these guys in the just 352 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: in the true business world, non sports, don't have that. 353 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: Like Bezos was really driven and really smart, but it 354 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: feels like he's transitioned pretty well with Lauren Sanchez to 355 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: just kind of kick his feet up. You know, he 356 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: ain't losing sleep over everything. Like Jerry wouldn't miss a 357 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys game if his life depended on it. Like it's 358 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: just such I remember him saying, like twenty years ago 359 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, like I could be anywhere in the world, 360 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: but I'm here with you because he loves the spotlight. 361 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Like he loved it. He can't give it up. Steven 362 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: different than Jerry, Like, let's face it has been super 363 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: rich his whole life, so was Clark Hunt. Of all 364 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: these guys, so they're experienced. You know, Jerry didn't grow 365 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: up with a welf when he bought the Cowboys. I 366 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: mean he's even said like a risk at everything could 367 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: have been a disaster. It's easy to say now looking back, 368 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: like Jerry's a genius those couple of years. You know, 369 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Maria's watching that Cowboy Cheerleader show and they talk about 370 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: the origin when Jerry bought the team and they were 371 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: cutting costs because he didn't have any money. So I 372 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: think times have changed a lot. But Jerry's personality is 373 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: not you know, Al is a good example. Al Davis 374 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: had that, Eddie de Bartolo had that some of these 375 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: guys their personality regardless of how much money they have, 376 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't change them, and which I respect, Like you 377 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: just kind of are who you are. I don't think 378 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I be like that. If I was worth that much, 379 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I'd chill a little bit more, especially at that age 380 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: I get in your forties or fifties. But like, what 381 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: else are you trying to prove? But I would imagine 382 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Steven is way less hands off or on, and he's 383 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: not gonna be the GM of the team. You know, 384 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: whenever Jerry passes away, I would expect them to name 385 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: a general manager of the team. You know why because 386 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: in March and April, you know what Steven's gonna be doing, 387 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: probably playing golf in Hawaii. Now I'll be there on 388 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: draft day, but he ain't gonna be doing and who knows, 389 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: maybe Jerry, like how much tape is Jerry actually watching? 390 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: Probably not that much. But he's even said like, I'm 391 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: not giving up the title, not giving up the title, 392 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: and he's not, like, so we can just stop talking 393 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: about it, like that's never gonna change. Here's a question. 394 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: My boys and I are all huge fans of the Pod. 395 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: We love football, gambling, and Zen's I like this family. Lately, though, 396 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: one of the boys is kind of taking it too far. 397 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: He's calling himself a cough head in our group thread 398 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: and tries to make bets over who can get their 399 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: question answered on the pod first. Jesus, what used to 400 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: be fun banter is now getting a little obnoxious. So 401 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: my question is, have you ever had a close friend 402 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that was being too much of a fanboy to someone 403 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: and how did you handle it? Uh? I mean, I'm 404 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: probably the wrong guy to asked this question. I just 405 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: kind of tune it out. I'm not I'd probably be 406 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: a little more passive aggressive. And though I just any 407 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: text chain I'm on, I'll just mute it, but I'm 408 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I kind of like the cough Head. 409 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: So if your son's a cough Head, welcome, You're the 410 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: first and only guy in the club. Mailback action. First 411 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: of all, like the show, I'm actually from Wisconsin and 412 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm super excited about Harbaugh in the new direction of 413 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: the team. He's a Charger fan. I have a lot 414 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: of hopes of the duo of Herbert and Harbaugh, but 415 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I've been seeing power rankings in the lists having them 416 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: as a top five ish team. As someone who's watched 417 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: this team crumble under expectations for years, this seems to 418 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: be too high. Where do you realistically see them ending 419 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: up at the end of the year. To me, if 420 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: they are in the mix fighting for the final wildcard 421 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: spot and somehow sneak in, that would be a major success. 422 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: I would agree. If the Chargers make the playoffs this year, 423 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: it is an incredible accomplishment for Jim Harbaugh. It's just 424 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: another you know pelt on his wall that is just like, 425 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: this guy's a badass. I do remember his first year 426 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: in San franci Now that team Herbert's better than Alex Smith, 427 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: but that team was better. They had a really good 428 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: offensive line, so did the Chargers, but they had Frank Gore, 429 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: they had Vernon Davis, they had Crabtree, they had Bowman 430 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: and Willis Bowman's now coach for the Chargers. They just 431 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: drafted Alden Smith. Their front seven was elite, Justin Smith, 432 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: Derek Brooks, Derek Brooks, David Brooks, a Mod Brooks, A 433 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Mod Brooks who's an underrated player. Ray McDonald questionable character guy, 434 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty badass on the field. So that team was better, 435 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: But they were the number one seed and no one 436 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: saw it coming till the end of the year, and 437 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: they were hosting the NFC championship game. Now, this team 438 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: is not talented enough to do that. But I will 439 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: say this, I'm recording this before Sunday. Obviously, they go 440 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh and they win that game, I think you 441 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: might be looking at a twelve one team. They lose 442 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: that game, then I think they're probably more on pace 443 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: to like compete for a while. But they win that game, 444 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: they're three and oh, all of a sudden, you'd be talking. 445 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: Let's let's pull up the old Chargers schedule right now? 446 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Where can I find them? Pittsburgh Chargers? Where are the Chargers? 447 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Charger up? Because they kept looking for San Diego they're 448 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Okay, at Pittsburgh, if they were to win, 449 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: they'd be three and oh. Then they get the Chiefs. 450 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: We'll give them an L three and one. Broncos, Cardinals, Saints, Browns, Titans, Bengals. 451 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: I mean, they got some winnable games. So you start 452 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: three and oh, like, are all of a sudden you 453 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: look up? Are they six and two? Seven and four? Like? 454 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: That's how you get to that kind of like eleven 455 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: twelve win range. And this is what Jim Harbaugh does. 456 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: They lose this game, they're probably closer to a nine 457 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: and eight team. But you win this game, you start 458 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: doing the math. I think the expectations are different because 459 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: of this guy's resume, So it's it's easier to have 460 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: more faith that you're not gonna have a devastating moment 461 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: because Brandon Staley or Anthony Lynn aren't your coach, and 462 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Been watching you since the Bills 463 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: versus the Rams, opener, I don't even remember that game. 464 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: Just wanted to message you since new the IG and 465 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: haven't watched you grow and still do. I always remind 466 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: myself of fensity, your fraud. Brandon Staley was also a 467 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: question for the mailback, Miami Kynes back? Now are we 468 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: back now that we have cam Wore or will Crystal 469 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: ball dommus? I think one thing you guys got going 470 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: for you is your I was gonna say division, but 471 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: your conference might stink. So Florida State there's a decent chance, 472 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: if I depend when you're listening to this, they lose 473 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: to cal I kind of like Cal's a underdog in 474 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: that game. But South Florida, Virginia Tech, Cal, Florida State, Duke, 475 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. I would say anything less than an eleven 476 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: in one season would be pretty bad. Now do I 477 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: think Mario's winning a big time playoff game against an 478 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: equal foe, you know, against Ohio State, against a USC 479 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: against Bama, Georgia Ole Miss. No. But part of college football, 480 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, you get enough talent because the talent discrepancies 481 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: on basically every team but four or five Texas another 482 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: team I left out. It's not we've seen crazier and 483 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Miami's in the final four. Could 484 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: they win a national championship? I think that would be stunning. 485 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: But if you told me Nick Saban or Kirby Smart 486 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: was the head coach of that roster. He'd be like, yeah, 487 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: they can win a Natty. This is the thing with Nil. 488 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: And you have to wonder because I flipped on this. 489 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the name of the podcast, but I 490 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: follow their like highlights on Instagram and it's like a 491 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: former reporter in the SEC the South and another dude 492 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: that was a coach and worked at Alabama for a while, 493 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: and they were going on this rant about lang Kiff 494 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: into Florida and I'm guilty of this. I'm like, ah, 495 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: of course he'd go to Florida. And I do wonder 496 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: if things have changed in terms of Well Miss paying 497 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: them ten million dollars a year. They dominate the transfer portal, Well, 498 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: what does that mean they have a big budget, they 499 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: can pay players, Like, what's really the difference nowadays? Historically, 500 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: pre transfer portal and when you had to round bad 501 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: guys and very dependent on where you were from a 502 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: recruiting base, Florida has always been a way better job 503 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: than all Miss. What's the difference now? If you can 504 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: pay me in my staff premium numbers, if I have 505 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: a huge sum of loot to pay recruits, I can 506 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: win anywhere in the major conferences. Like if all of 507 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, Wisconsin next year has the highest NIL budget 508 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: in the country, they would land sweeter recruits than their landing. 509 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: That's not an opinion, that's a fact. So if I 510 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: can pay guys, I can win. And I you know, 511 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: are we sure Lane Kevin's a lock to go there. Now, 512 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: maybe he just likes Florida more than living in Mississippi, 513 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: So there is a human element there. But I don't know, 514 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: maybe we have to relook at obviously Alabama, lsh you, Ohio, State, Texas, 515 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, Oklahoma. I mean, there are some jobs that 516 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: aren't gonna ever go bad usc Oregon now, Phil Knight, 517 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: but you have to see some of these jobs that 518 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: have been bad forever. When I say forever, you know 519 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: for a long time now, I mean Florida hasn't been 520 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: good in a while pre and post nil. Are we 521 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: holding onto the past? They obviously could be good if 522 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: like Kirby Smart was their coach, they clearly would be 523 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: a power. But they're not recession proof. And yeah, I 524 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: don't know. He wouldn't go there for the money, Like 525 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: how much more can they pay him than ol Missus 526 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: PanAm They both can pay the same amount so it 527 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: all gets down to recruiting. Now it's easier to recruiting 528 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Florida just given their closer to you, but doesn't really 529 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: feel like it's hurting Lane from a recruiting standpoint because 530 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: the roster's good. I'm a Bears fan by marriage, so 531 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: be paying more attention to them the last couple of years. 532 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: Fast forward to the end of the season. Do you 533 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: think the Bears will regret not having a veteran quarterback 534 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: to back up mentor Caleb through the season without a 535 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: true offensive mind and coach and having to play immediately 536 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: with the highest expectations. That seems like a mistake. You've 537 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: been okay. I would say there's a double edged sword 538 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: because they really like Tyson Badget. Matt Ryan mentioned it 539 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks when he was sitting there with Poles. 540 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: He's like, God, this guy's pretty good. So they really 541 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: like their guy. They're not just keeping random young guys 542 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: to keep the salaries down, like they like him as 543 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: a player. I do wonder if there was a player 544 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: that you could have made your third string quarterback instead 545 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: of a quote unquote developmental guy to just have a 546 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: round Caleb. I'm trying to think of a name. You know, 547 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel now is retired, but a guy under that 548 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: umbrella who has spent a lot of time with just 549 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: high end quarterbacks. I remember Veach. I don't know if 550 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: each told me this. Someone around the Chiefs told me 551 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: this back when they signed Chad Henney that what they 552 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: were looking for was someone who was married. For Patrick 553 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes backup. They wanted a mature guy who had been 554 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: the league married, serious, non fuck around guy. And I'm 555 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: trying to think, who's the backup quarterback last year? You 556 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: know part of the reason, remember Chiefs backup twenty twenty 557 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: three quarterback. It's crazy how powerful Google is because last 558 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: year I think Henny retired. Oh, they signed Blaine Gabbert. 559 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: And they like having guys behind Patrick, Like, They're not 560 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: looking for developmental guy. They want a guy who can 561 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: help out Patrick and the coaching staff. Essentially, who's a 562 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: serious cat married, like not going clubbing and coming in hungover. 563 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: If it is, maybe he had too many cocktails sitting 564 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: there with his wife. And I think there is a 565 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: balance for a guy who is super young to just 566 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: have someone to look at like, I feel overwhelmed. This 567 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: is tough I'm scared, like, this is harder than I thought. 568 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: Can Caleb have that conversation with Tyson Badgett? He can't. 569 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Could he have that conversation with insert whoever you want, 570 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. I'll give the commander's credit. Marcus Merritt is 571 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: not a good player at this point in time in 572 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: his career, but it makes a lot of sense having 573 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: him around Jade Daniels so they can talk about I 574 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: don't know how hard this shit is. I'm a big 575 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: believer in that, even if it's gotta be your third quarterback. 576 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: So the money you save with badget as your backup, 577 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: he's making like a million bucks, you could allocate let's 578 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: say four million dollars to my backup. Well, give three 579 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: million dollars to an older player who he can lean on. 580 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say it's a mistake, but 581 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: I think you should argue. You can argue very easily 582 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: that that's a no brain or move to have for 583 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: the young guy. We've all been in positions where you 584 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: feel a little overwhelmed. What do you do? You can 585 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: talk to your peer who's in the same position but 586 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: you both have the same problems. Who do you like 587 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: talking to the older guys. Now, maybe what they would 588 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: say is, that's why we traded for Keenan. Like Keenan 589 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: and him gotten really close. I'd say, yeah, that's that's fair. 590 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: I do think there's something you know, specific though, about 591 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: the guy that plays that position that you could argue 592 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: that's a little mismanagement. I'm nitpicked. I don't know if 593 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: that changes much. And maybe Caleb wouldn't even ask the 594 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: guy for advice. I don't know. I thought it was 595 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of stupid the viral clip of him and CJ, 596 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: and everyone's like he didn't want CJ's advice. It's like, guys, 597 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: he had just got hit forty times in a game 598 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: they had just lost in front of twenty five million people. 599 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird spot. I like CJ a lot, 600 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: and I think his heart's in the right place. But like, 601 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, people on the internet made way too 602 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: big a deal about that. If you told me CJ 603 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: called him the next day and had some pointers for 604 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: him and he didn't text him back, I'd be like, 605 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: that's a bigger red flag than right after you lose 606 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: and the dude's talking to you. There's a million cameras 607 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: in front of your face. You just want to get 608 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: to the locker room and fucking sit down after you 609 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: can barely move. I have a hard time judging. I 610 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to judge a player in that 611 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: at that moment. I'm not a huge believer like act 612 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: like do you want to shake hands? Great people should 613 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: do or not shaking the guy's hand like that guy 614 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: was talking shit, I'm sorry, this is we don't all 615 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: this is isn't junior high softball here, Like, we don't 616 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: have to all hug and kiss each other. It's like 617 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady rushes off the field after he loses. Yeah, 618 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: sucks to lose. Wasn't playing it on it? Sportsmanship? This 619 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: isn't This isn't little league playing for millions of dollars 620 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: lot on line here? You know this it's a kid's game, 621 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: but it's monetized as a fortune five hundred company. So 622 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't get as emotional about some of the after 623 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: the game stuff in terms of what is like what 624 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: are the okay and not okay actions? Yeah, okay, cej 625 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: let me get a notepad out here. I just lost, 626 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: got my ass kicked. Give me about seven things let 627 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: me write them down. I just is at the time 628 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: of the place, I have to believe that the NFL 629 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: scouting community, particularly as it pertains the quarterback position, need 630 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: a major overhaul. Tom Brady implied that the quarterback play 631 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: in the modern era is spar and I agree. Watching film, 632 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: it's my observation that O lines and O coordinators take 633 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the heat for what's really quarterback incompetency. 634 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: Do you think it would be wise for scouts to 635 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: start valuing mental and intangible traits a little higher than 636 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: physical traits outside of arm talent. Let me pause you 637 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: right there. I do think that is. I would say 638 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: they place a premium on that stuff. Let's not forget 639 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: the scouting community. Like a group of scouts for a team, 640 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: they don't get to choose the player. Do you know 641 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: the chances that the majority of draft picks there are 642 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: people in the room who aren't always on board. I 643 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: would say once you get past like top five picks, 644 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: probably one hundred percent there's a guy in the room 645 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: that doesn't agree. And once you get to the second, third, 646 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: and fourth rounds, they're usually people that are not on 647 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: the same page. The coaches and GMS make all these decisions. 648 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: They just take that information. In my time in the league, 649 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: if the scouts got to make the picks, they would 650 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: have been different picks. Look at CJ. Stroud, his leadership, 651 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: poise and proven ability to handle adversity was head over 652 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: heels above his college peers. Imagine if those traits were 653 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: unanimously valued as a priority by most scouts. CJ. Stroud 654 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: went second in the draft. He went second. Bryce fell 655 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: into the same Again, like, obviously CJ looks like, you know, 656 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Joe Montana compared to Bryce Young, but he went second. 657 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: We're not talking about a guy that fell to thirtieth. 658 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: He went second, And Bryce also fell under the category 659 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: of checking all those boxes too. So CJ's more talented, 660 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: but from an intangible standpoint, they were both really elite. 661 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: So I think the intangible stuff gets put it really 662 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: really high premiums around the league. I do think in 663 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: having experienced it and having watched it so closely now, 664 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: you do need to be careful because a super try 665 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: hard guy sometimes you can overlook some problems with the 666 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: traits that he possesses, and then you get overwhelmed because like, Okay, 667 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: I know you're talking about quarterbacks, but at other positions, 668 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's like we love this guy. He's super smart, 669 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: he's super tough. It's like, okay, Kenny Block, Max Crosby, 670 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: can he cover Justin Jefferson because if he can't, like, okay, 671 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: all this Chuck's great, Like have them go work for 672 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: fucking Amazon. But like, if you can't play at the 673 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: highest level, we're not gonna win. And I think at 674 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: quarterback it's really complicated because it's really hard. But it's 675 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: been like this forever. I think we act like quarterback 676 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: plays bad right now, and you could argue it is. 677 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: But when I was growing up in junior high and 678 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: high school in the late nineties and early two thousands, 679 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: google some of those drafts. There were countless. Some of 680 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: the biggest busts in the history of the league happened 681 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: between like ninety five and two thousand and five. So 682 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: it's not this isn't a new thing. We've seen it 683 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: happen before. Like if Bryce Young is let's just say, 684 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: worst case scenario out of the league in three years, 685 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: worst case scenario out of the league. We've seen this before. 686 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: It happens, and it's gonna happen again because you're dealing 687 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: with human beings. You can watch every play they've ever 688 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: had fifty times. You could have him take every cognitive 689 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: test known de mand Get Seal Team six director, give 690 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: him the tests you get, you know, get the dude 691 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: from MIT and have him administered tests. You can do 692 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: it all. But until the guy's in the firing line 693 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: week in, week out on Sundays, you don't really know. 694 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: And you definitely don't know because most of these guys 695 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: like are playing at pretty good schools. They're winning a lot. 696 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: So Kyler Murray lost like four career games in his 697 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: life before he got to the NFL. Caleb Williams had 698 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: a disastrous season last year. They went seven and five. 699 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: If the Bears after twelve games were seven and five, 700 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: if you just told me that right now the Bears 701 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: are gonna be seven and five, I'd be like, Caleb's 702 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna be the rookie the year. So it's really really hard. 703 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: Plus you're dealing with really young people. This is always 704 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: going to be an inexact science and always gonna be 705 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: a situation where it's really hard to value people. You 706 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: know what really is Like I I used to think 707 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: like Nick Bosa was kind of this stoner, like just 708 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: kind of surfer type guy. And I've watched so many interviews. 709 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, Nick Bosa is really thoughtful. He's actually much 710 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: smarter than I realized, and he's become a star player. 711 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: And part of it is like, obviously he's very physically gifted, 712 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: but I think he's a really smart football player. And 713 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: the reason he's going to, if he stays healthy, be 714 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: have a great career is Like, now, he was the 715 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: number two pick in the draft, but I think that's 716 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: probably a bad example. Let's use Max Crosby because Max 717 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 1: a later round pick. Same thing. Like you hear Max talk, 718 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: you hear him talk about football. You see how much 719 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: he loves it. But think about Max Crosby. The dude 720 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: completely went sober after he was in the NFL. You know, 721 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: I think there were some question marks off the field 722 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: with him in his maturity. And now it's like he 723 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: beats all the coaches into the facility, not just during 724 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: the season, but eleven months a year. Me he's in 725 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: there in February and March and April, Like, how do 726 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: you know that's gonna happen? Think how many human beings 727 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: like the guy that matures late in life at like fifty, 728 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of figures it out. Think how much time he 729 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: wasted in his twenties and his thirties and his forties, 730 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: and now you have a short time clock in your 731 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: life to kind of figure it out. Where the guys 732 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: that figured it out immediately are the most dangerous because 733 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: you can build on that and build on that because 734 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: you're constantly learning as you're evolving. But these guys that 735 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: mature fast, that figure it out at a young age, like, 736 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: they're really valuable because they're going to become great players. 737 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Some guys it's too late. And you how often you 738 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: hear players like I wish I would have known this. 739 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: I wish I would have stopped doing this. It's like, well, shit, 740 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: you're thirty two years now, thirty two years old, Like 741 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: your skills aren't as good as they once were. It's 742 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: why it's such a fascinating thing to talk about, because 743 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: we're dealing with humans now. Bryce I think looking back 744 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: is one thing we can overvalue is size, like I can't. 745 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: It's important speaks for itself. There are going to be outliers, 746 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: just like there are any in any walk of life. 747 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: Most good quarterbacks are big or at least have a 748 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: baseline six two and a half plus. Just look at 749 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: your top Let's just pick top five quarterbacks, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Herbert, CJ. 750 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you just go most of them hit a 751 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: certain threshold of size. Obviously Herbert and Josh Allen are massive. 752 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: What's CJ. Stroud sixty three, Mahomes sixty two sixty three, 753 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: Lamar six two sixty three. It's very difficult for short guys. 754 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: It's it's why there's only a handful of them, and 755 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: one of them Lamar sixty two and a quarter two 756 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds. Maybe he's a little finner this 757 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: year because he said he wanted to lose weight. Six 758 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: foot to me would be I'd be very, very hesitant 759 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: to have a small guy quarterback. Kyler's probably the biggest 760 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,919 Speaker 1: outlier in the history of the league. But he's also 761 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, he I don't know if he'll ever get 762 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: talked about like this. I think you could say he's 763 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes we've ever seen. How good 764 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: he would have been at baseball, I don't know. He 765 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: got Draft ninth overall ninth. How many guys in the 766 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: history of modern day sports used to happen a lot, right, 767 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: the Dion's, the Bo Jackson's before that, what's his name 768 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: that played for the Twins forever, the big dude that 769 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: was a big time football player from Minnesota. I can't 770 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: think of his name. I think he passed away recently. 771 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: But obviously a lot of guys used to be baseball 772 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: football forever, right sixties, seventies, eighties. They don't exist anymore, really, 773 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: And this guy in the Internet age got drafted in 774 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: the top ten in baseball and was the number one 775 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: overall pick in football, and it's had an up and 776 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: down career, but obviously no one's ever argued like Kyler's 777 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: not a freak and his good damn good. I mean 778 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: that version of that guy last week. If he has 779 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: seven or eight of those throughout the I don't mean 780 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: like perfect passer rating, but just plays like his B 781 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: plus a minus game. I mean the Cardinals could be 782 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: compete to win a night games like he's and we 783 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: all agree with that. So you remove him, literally one 784 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes of all time. It's like, sometimes 785 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: you got to remove some of these guys like Bo 786 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: Jackson and Deon Sanders, are outliers. Kyler Murray's an outlier. 787 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: Most guys all look relatively the same. Before mobile quarterbacks, 788 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: most teams wanted their guy six three and a half 789 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: to six five. Now that they can move, I can 790 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: go a little shorter, but I wouldn't make a habit 791 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: of drafting guys that are five to eleven to play quarterback. 792 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: I would not. I think that is a losing formula, 793 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: and I think it's proving out over time. That's where 794 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: Bryce being such a tiny little player, he just doesn't 795 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 1: have the skill set to overcome that. The volume