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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Man, Welcome back to coast to coast, George Noriy with you,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Ken Hanson, back with us, Author, lecturer, founder of

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Speaker 2: the Treasures in Time. That's an organization devoted to disseminating

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Speaker 2: knowledge of the Biblical and classical world. He is dug

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Speaker 2: on archaeological sites in the Middle East, lived in Avoll,

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Speaker 2: little region of northern Galilee, Todd Hebrew and an Israeli

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Speaker 2: agricultural sediment. And he has also worked with a television

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Speaker 2: news gathering operation in the war zone of southern Lebanon

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Speaker 2: at the height of the civil war there that left

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Speaker 2: the Jewel of the Mediterranean in the Middle East in ruins.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Hanson lends a timeless perspective to the challenges of

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Speaker 2: the future. Ken, welcome back on this Easter weekend.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you, Good to be with you, George,

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Speaker 3: good evening, Good morning from beautiful Orlando, Florida and the

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Speaker 3: University of Central Florida.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather your way?

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Speaker 3: Always gorgeous, Always gorgeous here in Florida up except.

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Speaker 2: For the occasional hurricane once in a while.

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Speaker 3: Occasionally occasionally we don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Have you been.

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Speaker 3: You've been all right, a fantastic, fantastic doing a lot

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Speaker 3: of great work. It's wonderful to be a professor.

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Speaker 2: You know that you're one of the best.

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Speaker 3: It's a blast to look forward to it every day.

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Speaker 3: It's not a job. Can't complain. That's what I'm talking to.

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Speaker 2: You explain first of all who Enoch was, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll get into his book.

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Speaker 3: Enoch a very mysterious character mentioned in the Hebrew Bible

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Speaker 3: in the Book of Genesis. He's just mentioned briefly and

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Speaker 3: then he disappears. We're told that Enoch walked with God

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Speaker 3: and he was not for God took him, it says

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Speaker 3: in Hebrew God took him. Well, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: And obviously people were very curious and backstories started to

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Speaker 3: circle in terms of who this great patriarch, the seventh

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Speaker 3: of the seventh patriarch from Adam with Enoch. So who

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Speaker 3: was this person? And we have a whole ancient folklore

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Speaker 3: that developed around him, that grew and grew and developed

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Speaker 3: over centuries and centuries and spawned what we can call

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Speaker 3: in Nacic Judaism. This was a whole branch of ancient

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Speaker 3: Judaism that was enormous in the days of John the

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Speaker 3: Baptist and Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it's

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Speaker 3: certainly influenced in the birth of this new movement called

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Speaker 3: it came to be known as Christianity.

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Speaker 2: And he was the father of Mathuselah, who lived into

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Speaker 2: his nine hundred years. He was the great grandfather of Noah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, the word Enoch in Hebrew Hanoch actually

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Speaker 3: means wisdom, or a derivative of it means education to

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Speaker 3: this day in modern Hebrew. He was a prophet and

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Speaker 3: his son was its prophecy, Methuselah in Hebrew methuschelach, which

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Speaker 3: means when he dies, it will be sent. Well, sure enough, Methuselah,

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Speaker 3: the oldest man ever to rive, according to the Hebrew Bible,

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Speaker 3: when he passed away, what was sent the great flood.

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Speaker 3: So that was Enoch's prophecy right there in a nutshell,

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Speaker 3: his son.

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Speaker 2: Now the Book of Enoch, who wrote it? Did he

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Speaker 2: write it or did somebody write it about him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, in tradition Enoch wrote it. But from a scholarly standpoint,

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Speaker 3: we think that it was composed by a group of

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Speaker 3: individuals which we can call the Enochians, I like to

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Speaker 3: call them the visionaries, who existed in the first few

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Speaker 3: centuries before the Common Era. Extremely popular, and yet because

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Speaker 3: of its nature, this was a very apocalyptic text, very

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Speaker 3: out there as far as even the ancient sages were concerned,

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Speaker 3: and it was suppressed, systematically suppressed by our Jewish stages

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Speaker 3: over the centuries, and it found no place in the

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Speaker 3: Hebrew scriptures. In fact, we didn't even know what it

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Speaker 3: contained exactly, except there were a few quotations from it

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Speaker 3: here and there, dropped by the early Church fathers. The

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Speaker 3: New Testament Book of Jude actually quotes the Book of Enoch,

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Speaker 3: quotes it directly, but we didn't have the actual book itself,

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Speaker 3: in fact, just hints here and there. Sir Walter Raleigh

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Speaker 3: makes mention of the Book of Enoch back centuries ago

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Speaker 3: when he was imprisoned in the Tower of London, of

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Speaker 3: all places, he was writing his history, and there he

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Speaker 3: mentions the Book of Enoch, which was he says, from

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Speaker 3: Ethiopia and the Bia.

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Speaker 2: The book contains some very unique material on the origins

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Speaker 2: of demons, the nephelem fallen angels. It's almost absolutely it's

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Speaker 2: almost like a who's Who of the past, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It definitely is, and it's got everything. It got encounters

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Speaker 3: foot tall giants who were eating human flesh. They had

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Speaker 3: visions of heaven and hell, and a lot in it

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Speaker 3: about the end of days, even an image a vision

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Speaker 3: of a mysterious character known as the Son of Man.

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Speaker 3: And finally, in the late seventeen hundreds it surfaced there

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Speaker 3: was a Scottish explorer or adventurer by the name of

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Speaker 3: James Bruce who was traveling in, of all places, Ethiopia.

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Speaker 3: Now what was he doing down there in a place

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Speaker 3: called Aksum where there had been a long tradition that

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Speaker 3: the Arc of the Covenant ended up in a church

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Speaker 3: in Aksum in Ethiopia, And that tradition persists today. Members

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Speaker 3: of the Ethiopian Church will say to this day, the

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Speaker 3: Ark of the Covenant is there inside this church. And

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Speaker 3: it could well be that this fellow James Bruce, was

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Speaker 3: looking for the arc. He never brought out the arc,

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Speaker 3: but he did bring out three copies of the Book

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Speaker 3: of Enoch in the Ethiopic language called Geez. It's a

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Speaker 3: massive book he brought it to Europe and suddenly everybody's

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Speaker 3: eyes opened. So that's what Walter Raleigh was talking about.

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Speaker 3: That's what these church fathers were mentioning. And then in

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Speaker 3: the mid twentieth century, fragments of the very same book

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Speaker 3: were found in the Hebrew language in the Dead Sea Scrolls,

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Speaker 3: among the Dead Sea scrolls, and so now we know

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Speaker 3: that it really was originally a Semitic text that was

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Speaker 3: written in Hebrew. It floated around in those pivotal days

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Speaker 3: of John the Baptist Jesus absolutely seminal period, and it

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Speaker 3: was extremely popular, and we're sure it was considered canon

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Speaker 3: back then. It was considered part of the Hebrew Bible.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the Jewish sect from Ethiopia called Beta Israel,

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Speaker 3: these are African Jews, a very ancient sect, claim that

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Speaker 3: this text goes way back to the days of the

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Speaker 3: Queen of Sheba who came down to Ethiopia and this group,

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Speaker 3: thousands of them, were airlifted to the State of Israel

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Speaker 3: in the early nineteen nineties and there are over one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand of this group called Beta Israel.

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Speaker 3: They are African Ethiopian Jews who live in the state

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Speaker 3: of Israel today and they still hold the Book of

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Speaker 3: Enoch as part of their sacred canon. That's how important

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Speaker 3: it has been in history and still is.

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Speaker 2: Now ken The Book of Enoch was suppressed for a

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Speaker 2: long time as well. Why what happened?

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Speaker 3: It's apocalyptic. It's apocalyptic. All of these visions and about

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Speaker 3: the end of days and that kind of stuff. It

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Speaker 3: ruffles a lot of feathers. It still does today, you

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Speaker 3: can well imagine. And Judaism, especially focuses not on the

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Speaker 3: end of days. It focuses on the here and now.

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Speaker 3: Go to synagogue, you're not going to hear a lot

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Speaker 3: of talk about the end of days or they're the

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Speaker 3: end of the world. It's how we can live life today,

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Speaker 3: and the end of the world will take care of itself.

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Speaker 3: And even back in antiquity, Jewish stages wrestled with books

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Speaker 3: like Enoch. Another one was the Book of Daniel, which

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Speaker 3: is very much about the end of days. And in

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Speaker 3: the end, the decision was made, well, we'll let in

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Speaker 3: the Book of Daniel into our sacred Hebrew canon as

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Speaker 3: part of the Hebrew Bible, but this ch Book Nat,

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Speaker 3: we're going to keep it out. And so it was

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Speaker 3: not copy and when you don't copy an ancient text,

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Speaker 3: it just disintegrates. Except for for them Dead Sea Scrolls,

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Speaker 3: fragments became unknown except preserved down in Ethiopia. Can you imagine?

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Speaker 2: And is that where it was rediscovered?

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Speaker 3: You bet? It was again by James Bruce in seventeen

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Speaker 3: seventy three Scottish Scottish adventure. He found the source of

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Speaker 3: the Blue Nile, by the way while he was down

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Speaker 3: in Africa, and he brought back three copies of this

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Speaker 3: book into Europe, and everybody's eyes opened instantly, My goodness,

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Speaker 3: was this actually part of the ancient Hebrew scriptures? And

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Speaker 3: now we're sure it absolutely was.

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Speaker 2: What about these Eromaic fragments that were found in the

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Speaker 2: Dead Sea scrolls? What's that significant?

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Speaker 3: Extremely because when you find fragments of the text, and

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Speaker 3: many fragments, you know that it was read in antiquity,

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Speaker 3: that it was extremely popular antiquity. All you need are

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Speaker 3: a few fragments that you line those up with the

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Speaker 3: Ethiopic text in the Gez language that came down to us.

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Speaker 3: And we're sure that that Ethiopic text is a very accurate,

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Speaker 3: slavishly accurate translation of the Semitic Hebrew original who were.

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Speaker 2: The mysterious Enochians.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're talking about ancient group. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of scholarship about them, and it's theorized that they were

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Speaker 3: sort of a counterculture movement in the first few centuries BCEE.

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Speaker 3: Now this is way before Jesus, of course, way before

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Speaker 3: John the Baptist, but the people had come out of

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Speaker 3: captivity in Babylonian. They had rebuilt their temple that was

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Speaker 3: dedicated in the year five fifteen BC. The temple was

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Speaker 3: ruled in those days by a priesthood known as does Zadekites,

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Speaker 3: and they go way back to King David. In fact,

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Speaker 3: King David appointed one fellow named Shadduk to be high priest,

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Speaker 3: but then he appointed a second high priest named a Biashar.

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Speaker 3: We don't hear much about a Biasar, but Saddok was

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Speaker 3: the high priest who anointed David's son Solomon to be king,

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Speaker 3: and once Solomon was in power, he exiled the other

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Speaker 3: high priest of his father David to the north of Israel,

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Speaker 3: a Biasar. He ended up living in a city called Annaslas,

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Speaker 3: and that was the same city where another prophet came from.

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Speaker 3: His name was Jeremiah.

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