WEBVTT - Ep. 362: Render - Live from the Lonesome Dove Cabin

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay Neukman.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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<v Speaker 2>The bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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<v Speaker 2>and look behind the scenes of.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual bear Grease podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Presented by f h F Gear, American Maid, purpose built

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<v Speaker 2>hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged

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<v Speaker 2>as the place.

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<v Speaker 1>As we explore.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a very unique episode today. Well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what we gotta cover. There's some stuff we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta cover. Okay, I'm gonna introduce my guests in just

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but we are going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast so that we did with Evan Felker, did

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bear Grease podcast on Evan Felker, And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're if you're new to the bear Grease Render, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what this is. This is where we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the documentary style bear Grease podcast. We're gonna talk something

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<v Speaker 2>about Evan Felker and the episode we did with him,

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<v Speaker 2>which I was it had such a good time doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, we're gonna we are in a historic building

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<v Speaker 2>right here, a very historic building. I'm not we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go into it pretty quickly here, but we are in

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<v Speaker 2>the log cabin that was used in Lonesome Dove. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about that. Number three. There's more, yes there, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's four.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna introduce you to my good friend Justin House

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<v Speaker 2>from Deep in the Heart of the Ozarks, Newton County,

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<v Speaker 2>Newton County, YEP. So we're gonna introduce you to Justin

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<v Speaker 2>he's never been on the podcast. And then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you either one and only Marshall Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall is Oh my god. I don't even know where

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<v Speaker 1>to start.

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<v Speaker 2>I would if I were introduced to Marshall, I would say, Marshall,

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<v Speaker 2>tell them what you haven't done. That's where I would start.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I started out. But then I've got Bear,

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<v Speaker 2>John and Josh here, and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>In New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>We are We're in New Mexico, Black Lake, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>Black Lake, New Mexico. Yeah, and we've been we're here

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<v Speaker 2>bear hunting, bear hunting with hounds. We brought our mules

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<v Speaker 2>all the way from Arkansas and we've been here two days. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we've hunted two and a half days and thunderstorms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we had some challenges. I hadn't got a barry yet,

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<v Speaker 2>got one day left. We just came out here for

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<v Speaker 2>a quick trip. But it's been incredible. Had some incredible mule.

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<v Speaker 3>Rides, amazing country, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Count Yeah, it's just incredible country.

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<v Speaker 1>But Marshall, tell me about what this is. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>we at?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we're on John and Charlotte Kimberland's ranch up here

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<v Speaker 4>in Black Lake, New Mexico. And I run a ranch

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<v Speaker 4>that we have this country, and I run a ranch

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<v Speaker 4>down the road, and we're basically an l hunting operation,

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<v Speaker 4>milldeer hunting operation and eye line hunt quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're trying to bear hunt.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, just a really historical cool place.

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<v Speaker 4>Like on Lonesome Dove when they get up to Montana,

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<v Speaker 4>they come up over the hill with the herd of

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<v Speaker 4>cattle and there's the cabin on the beautiful lake and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the cabin we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it right here?

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<v Speaker 5>This is it?

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<v Speaker 2>So at what part in the movie do they make

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<v Speaker 2>it to Montana? Like, hell, it's been a while. Me

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<v Speaker 2>and bear this the other day, I didn't finish it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's two thirds three quarters away through the movie probably.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in the movie, there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's confusing because in the movie they're in Montana, but

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<v Speaker 2>actually it was shot in New Mexico and.

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<v Speaker 1>This structure was built for that. Yeah, this was this

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<v Speaker 1>was a movie prop.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, Yeah, and then the Kimberlands came in modeled it,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, people could come stay here experience the

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<v Speaker 4>wrench kind of deal, and yeah, it's just an awesome place.

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<v Speaker 5>Tons of history. This is old, the old hat Creek.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrench that we're on, Okay, historically and it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a cool What year was all the Lonesome Dove

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<v Speaker 1>stuff shot? Y'all know?

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty five?

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<v Speaker 5>I think, Jamie, can you pull that up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you gonna be something I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 4>I knew I wouldn't have an answer to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonesome Dove. Okay, So you know what Del Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>I was with Del Brisbee the other day and you're

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<v Speaker 2>from from Texas bull Rider, Yeah yeah, and he gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a hard time for not knowing a line from

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<v Speaker 2>Lonesome Dove. He was he was making fun of my

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<v Speaker 2>mule or something, and I just I want to dell

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<v Speaker 2>if he's ever been here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's welcome anytime. He's welcoming time.

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<v Speaker 6>He don't don't invite Dann. He can't come here. He

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<v Speaker 6>only lives twenty minutes down the road. And it's never

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<v Speaker 6>invited me over there raising bucking horses, you know, in Texas,

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<v Speaker 6>not here in.

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<v Speaker 5>Texas, my place in Texas yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but uh what year?

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<v Speaker 7>So shot three?

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<v Speaker 1>Four?

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<v Speaker 7>Five years before that? Probably?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you were like what negative what You're born

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<v Speaker 5>in ninety seven? Crazy? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>You were you?

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<v Speaker 3>You weren't even if you listen to the podcast this week,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that Clay has a fascination with knowing how old?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah I heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should ask your buddies that you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't ask your Yeah, Evan Felker didn't think.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>How old they are, how many cows they got, or

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<v Speaker 4>how many acres they're on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now I know that about the cattle, but like age,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem, so.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't how old am I?

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<v Speaker 1>Well already you already told me.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, but I'm afraid twenty nine, right, there's nineteen, there's

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen forty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a kid, just a pup.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Marshall has uh so you. You run this huge ranch.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this this is like, this is a big

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<v Speaker 2>ranch and you I want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>several things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, shoot, how should we do this? We got so

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<v Speaker 1>much good stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>To talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot that I kind of want to jump

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<v Speaker 2>in with him, but I'm afraid if we do, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>never come back. We'll never get out. If there's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I've learned about Marshall, once, once you get in there.

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<v Speaker 5>You're in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You never come back out. Because he's so entertaining. He's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the podcast first. Then we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the podcast first. You're gonna shil horses.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, why wouldn't you podcast about the podcast first?

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<v Speaker 2>So we Uh No, I think it's fitting for us

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<v Speaker 2>to do the do the Evan Felker thing here because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Evan lives in Oklahoma, got a cow ranch there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's raising and training some really good performance horses.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really trying to he's really trying to make some

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<v Speaker 2>good horses out there, and I think they are. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just something about a guy like Evan that is, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you expect something different, But by different, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>expect somebody to kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of be aware of, you know, being well.

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<v Speaker 2>Known, having this great music, and Evan would just be

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that would just kind of I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just a humble guy essentially, That's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 5>He'd sit right in this room with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, humble guy and he uh and been through some

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<v Speaker 2>hard times and not afraid to talk about it. When

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<v Speaker 2>I first kind of reached out to him and I

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<v Speaker 2>went through actually Steve Ranella, and I said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think Evan would talk to me about all that? And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, yeah, yeah, he would, and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to just ask you guys, so Bear,

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<v Speaker 2>Justin and Josh all listen to it. Bear, what stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to you?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I mean, like you already said it, definitely you

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<v Speaker 9>could tell just by listening to him that he was

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<v Speaker 9>just a real humble, down to earth guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>like he's had a lot of success in the country

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<v Speaker 9>music world. But I thought it was really cool that

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<v Speaker 9>he's still breaking horses and it's still like doing all

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<v Speaker 9>the same stuff that he would have always done, Like

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<v Speaker 9>he's not necessarily let it go to his head. But

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<v Speaker 9>I thought I thought that the podcast was really cool

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<v Speaker 9>because I listened to The Troubadors quite a bit, and

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<v Speaker 9>it was pretty interesting to see his protest of songwriting

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<v Speaker 9>just because it made sense, Like everything you were talking

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<v Speaker 9>about is kind of the reason that I feel like

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of people like The Troubadors, just because it's

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<v Speaker 9>like really personal, like he puts in like these little

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<v Speaker 9>details that are like like like a mid July white

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<v Speaker 9>tail and velvet, you know, like everyone can imagine that scene.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I thought it was a really interesting podcast

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<v Speaker 9>and an interesting look behind the scenes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's appropriate that this comes out this

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<v Speaker 2>week because on social media there's been this big thing

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<v Speaker 2>with Charlie Crockett, who's a country music guy, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an outsider, never really liked Nashville, and he took he

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<v Speaker 2>took a shot at what he called bro country this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it that I know this. Y'all should think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Because talking about that's the first bro.

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<v Speaker 1>In on the country music drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Charlie Crockett made a post, it's like maybe specifically

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<v Speaker 2>calling out a couple of like bro country, which would

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<v Speaker 2>be like kind of the Nashville radio country music guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Yeah, I'm not even gonna say any names, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just this like firestorm and and well it

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<v Speaker 2>was Adcock, a guy with the last name Adcockvin, Gavin Adcock.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are listening to him, and uh and Gavitt

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlie Krockett and they got in this little internet

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<v Speaker 2>spat and Charlie Crockett sent Gavin Adcock a dozen roses

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and in the mail. And then Adcock gets

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<v Speaker 2>on with a dozen roses and says, hey, thanks, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate the roses. Sorry that you had to go

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<v Speaker 2>get a smaller venue because you couldn't sell tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>we had it just it was like going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>But the whole point of all that is that a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Kevin Helker is like he's just kind of unfazed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of a real deal. Like you would

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<v Speaker 2>never I don't think Evan's gonna let me down here.

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<v Speaker 2>You would never hear Evan Felker in that scenario. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's just he's who he is. He kind of doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, but he is not broke country. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not broke country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's even it's even like his music is country,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's different. Yeah, you know, I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Bear was talking about there are people who

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<v Speaker 3>can describe things very eloquently, and that's that's one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you get people who write books and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. I don't know. Evan has a has

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<v Speaker 3>a way of describing something so well and putting a

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<v Speaker 3>picture in your mind with a sentence where you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, just just all of a sudden and

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<v Speaker 3>and not just paint the picture but associate feelings to it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's it's normal stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like I'm trying to describe like something big.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like square Harry on the Meadow, second cuting of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year, Yep, It's like it's uh uh light enough

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<v Speaker 2>still at the foot of the hill. We could kick

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<v Speaker 2>up a single or two, you know, just like like

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<v Speaker 2>every song has got just like some something that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of paints.

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<v Speaker 1>The picture for you. You like the Tributors, Oh yeah, Turnpike School. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if those other two names go make

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<v Speaker 5>it on my playlist, but there's a little turn.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Barry, did you think it was funny when I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Evan Fucker's dad was dead and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>going around there, Yeah, what did it come across as funny?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you like, man, I got a cool dad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just thought it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like, yeah, man, you know he's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he did Little Cowboy in some day working. He welds

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<v Speaker 2>down there at Diverse City. I said, he's still alive. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well that's funny. Josh Watch said, what what

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<v Speaker 1>you man?

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<v Speaker 3>I love a good redemption story, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the fact that he was able to

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<v Speaker 3>go through that, you know, it sounds like he was confronted,

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<v Speaker 3>got the help that he needed, but he wasn't defined

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<v Speaker 3>by that, and I think he's I think he's learned

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<v Speaker 3>how to live his life with that being in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, and not carry it with him.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can tell, you know, you can tell the

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<v Speaker 3>things that are valuable to him now is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>his family, his his music is valuable. And I also

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually kind of impressed by the way that

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<v Speaker 3>he addressed the crowd during the during the live session. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very personal, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 3>you could you could see the gratitude that he had

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<v Speaker 3>for people who listen to his music, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to I've been to concerts and stuff where

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<v Speaker 3>where the guy singing couldn't care less about the people

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<v Speaker 3>in the audience, and he just seemed to have just

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<v Speaker 3>a real appreciation for liking his music, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's I think that's a pretty cool thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like people who who recognize that it's not just them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So anyways, I was I was really impacted

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<v Speaker 3>just about the story of him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked what he said he said, you know, he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, well, you know, that's fine for some people,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can't do it, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's not you know, and you can tell but

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<v Speaker 3>with the resolve in his voice that they'll never touch

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<v Speaker 3>it again because he recognizes it destroyed his life and

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<v Speaker 3>he had it. Sounds like he had a window of

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity and he took that window of opportunity and all

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<v Speaker 3>those things that he had lost he got back. And

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<v Speaker 3>that that means something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>M M, what about you? Justin let's sit out.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought he was really good, just the fact that

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<v Speaker 7>he came from small town, Oklahoma, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of the reason he is the way he is.

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<v Speaker 7>He's just an old country boy that grew up like that.

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<v Speaker 7>He I don't think he set out to be what

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<v Speaker 7>he is as far as the fame goes. But but

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<v Speaker 7>he got that and he never he never drifted into

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<v Speaker 7>I'm too good to be here in Oklahoma anymore. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>still still this guy that wants to run a ranch,

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<v Speaker 7>ride horses. I think it keeps him humble. It's really

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<v Speaker 7>good to see him be able to confront and talk

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<v Speaker 7>about the situation that he had. It takes takes a lot,

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<v Speaker 7>especially when you've got a spotlight on you like that.

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<v Speaker 7>To be able to talk about that publicly, I think

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<v Speaker 7>it was great. I was a little bit disappointed how

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<v Speaker 7>he responded when you asked him about the alcohol, like

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<v Speaker 7>with his kids, and when he talks about how much

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<v Speaker 7>better his life is now that he's not a part

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<v Speaker 7>of it, he talks about how much more productive he is.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I just feel like he might have a

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<v Speaker 7>little more to say to his kids and to his friends.

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<v Speaker 7>But I understand too, uh the world that he's in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>espersonal choice.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I might have been a little surprised at what he

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<v Speaker 2>said to just because I you know, he was an

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<v Speaker 2>alcoholic and it kind of wrecked his life, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, what would you how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll talk to your kids about alcohol and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was, I was, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an interesting answer he had, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought he would have been, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell my kids never to even.

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<v Speaker 1>Touch this thing.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the thought I had, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, yet I mean he has a I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what you tell somebody and what you do with your

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<v Speaker 2>life is it's more important what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>So his kids are going to watch him grow up

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<v Speaker 1>and not drink, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so even what he tells him, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he's now, you know, I mean, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>living by example. But yeah, I was, I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I just wanted to see what he thought about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I grew up in a world that

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<v Speaker 2>was very, very conservative with alcohol. Just like, this stuff's dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>man wreck your life. I mean to the point that

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<v Speaker 2>some of it was kind of fear mongering, and but

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, it's I mean, the stuff's wrecked

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people's lives, So you can't mess around

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<v Speaker 2>with it total.

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<v Speaker 5>Just happened to be. But I literally lost my best

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<v Speaker 5>friend last year that dealt with alcoholism and stuff, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's a dangerous drug man. Yeah, it's I've

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<v Speaker 4>just never been a big drinker, but you know, he did.

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<v Speaker 4>We were best friends for a long time, but just

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<v Speaker 4>it always come back to him, Yeah, always come back

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<v Speaker 4>for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well it was. It was really interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>hear hear his songs and he sings about it too.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the funniest things I ever heard. That on

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<v Speaker 2>turn Practure Door social media when the song on the

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<v Speaker 2>Red River came out with this new album, right, one

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<v Speaker 2>of their songs went pretty high in the country chart

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and and Turned by True Doors posted a

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<v Speaker 2>screen clip of their text thread like on the band

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<v Speaker 2>and and somebody said, hey, on the Red Rivers showing

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<v Speaker 2>up on the country charts at whatever number. And Evan

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<v Speaker 2>Felker writes back, and he says, nothing says hot country

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<v Speaker 2>like obscure dog breeds and generational.

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<v Speaker 1>Alcoholists us show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny because he you know, again going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the specificity inside a songwriting, and he talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>cattle dogs that he has and he has a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of cattle dogs. I didn't really get a chance. I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him a lot about his cattle dogs he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a yard full of bird dogs and cattle

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and he works those cattle dogs. Dogs are like quills, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>quell dogs and shoot retrieving dogs like duck dogs. And

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<v Speaker 2>uh but he's got a uh, hanging tree cattle dogs

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<v Speaker 2>that many they worked. They had one Border Collie, but

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<v Speaker 2>one hanging tree dog, which was neat. You have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of hang you know, hanging tree dogs.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's what's hanging tree dog?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a breed of cattle dog. What does it

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<v Speaker 2>look like? I mean, to me, it looked like a cur.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I believe, and don't quote me on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a few hanging tree dogs. I was never

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<v Speaker 4>that much fan of them because they didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 4>bite for me. But uh, I believe it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>border Collie.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it's a border Collie, a healer and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>like some kelpie.

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<v Speaker 5>Or something in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kelpie.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say it's it's it's crossed up cow breeds.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, a guy came up with and Uh, I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>some guys with some great ones.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah for sure. Yeah, I just I never got into him.

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<v Speaker 2>But you you've caught wild cattle and though that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and I preferred I've always preferred cata hulas.

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<v Speaker 5>And part of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is, probably, like he said, just my demographic. I just

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<v Speaker 4>I've always loved leopard dogs, from hog dogs to blood

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<v Speaker 4>dogs to everything. I just I always had luck with catahulas.

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<v Speaker 4>I always got a lot more handle out of them

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<v Speaker 4>than like a black mouth curve. Black Mouth curves are

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<v Speaker 4>awesome dogs a lot of guys, but I found black

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<v Speaker 4>mouths to be like coyotes trying to catch him and

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<v Speaker 4>handle him and actually get a handle on them. I

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<v Speaker 4>always preferred catahulas because I could, I could move him around.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I had a good handle on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, tell me about the situation where you'd be catching

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<v Speaker 2>wild cattle, like something like a big ranch. What does

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<v Speaker 2>cattle get loose and they hire you and your dogs

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<v Speaker 2>to come in there and catch them?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I did some contracts for like a

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<v Speaker 4>I did one for like a municipality that a guy

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<v Speaker 4>had a bunch of cattle on a place. He had

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<v Speaker 4>like seven seven thousand acres almost he sold the place.

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<v Speaker 4>Fences were trash, his cattle, just he left him there

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<v Speaker 4>for the owner. They'd gotten out, getting in corn fields,

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<v Speaker 4>getting in wheat fields, destroying crops.

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<v Speaker 5>And the people had already paid that. I think they'd

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<v Speaker 5>find the guy like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>for crop damages for these cattle. So basically they came

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<v Speaker 5>in and we're like, hey, we're either hiring somebody to

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<v Speaker 5>remove these cattle and you get nothing, or you can

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<v Speaker 5>hire this guy and he's gonna catch him. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>haul them to market and he gets half.

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<v Speaker 2>So like that's the that's the deal with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>catching cattle as you get half the.

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<v Speaker 4>YEA, if I'm gonna go clean a place off, and

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<v Speaker 4>don't get me wrong, there's a lot of guys go

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<v Speaker 4>do it for two hundred dollars a day and that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I'm gonna go on a clean up job

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna have to bay cattle up, dart them,

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<v Speaker 4>lead them out, maybe winch them in the trailer, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes we have to go dartom in helicopter, that gunam

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<v Speaker 4>in helicopter. Like there's cost in that. So I can't

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<v Speaker 4>do it for two hundred dollars a day. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>if I go catch wild cattle, I do it on

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<v Speaker 4>the halves.

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<v Speaker 5>I catch it if you have to hire me to

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<v Speaker 5>catch it or some guy by no means in my

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<v Speaker 5>top hand or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you got a hat those super puncher.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a super puncher man. I ain't got the

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<v Speaker 5>big buckle or nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had a pretty big buckle. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, but no that you know that that's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>the rule of thumb.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if it's so bad that you just want it gone,

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<v Speaker 4>it shouldn't be a problem to pay me half, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean just the drugs. Dark cattle are expensive, the

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<v Speaker 5>darts are expensive, the man powers exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's super dangerous and you gotta be highly skilled.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, that's what comes.

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<v Speaker 5>Top Well, and think you've seen the horses we ride.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like we show up with some horsepower, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and go out there and do the deal we gotta do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean a mediocre horses is ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>now in the in the in the ranching in rodeo

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<v Speaker 4>world for a good, a good like solid ranch horse.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that you can go do that stuff on

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<v Speaker 4>and not run into problems. But and you look at

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<v Speaker 4>guys like Derek mcgay and stuff that are going out

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<v Speaker 4>there and catching wild cattle on reservation land and public

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<v Speaker 4>land and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's one hundred percent pay right there. I

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<v Speaker 5>get to keep them like, that's a sweet trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, okay, so we started in on wild

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<v Speaker 2>cattle with you. But if you met somebody in the

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<v Speaker 2>store and they said, young man, what do.

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<v Speaker 1>You do for a living? What would you tell them?

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<v Speaker 5>I tell him I'm a massive jack of all trades

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<v Speaker 5>and a master of dun But what what?

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<v Speaker 2>What describe your career path that got you to where

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<v Speaker 2>you're at?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like quickly? I mean you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I've rodeoed my whole life roped. I fought

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<v Speaker 4>bulls for a long time. Uh. The three things I'm

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<v Speaker 4>most passionate about is hounds, picking up brons, and bucking horses.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, I mean, I don't know what the third

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<v Speaker 4>one would be. Maybe I should have said my top two. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>helicopters would be my third one. I love helicopter capture work.

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<v Speaker 1>What are those streets hold on? What were the three.

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<v Speaker 5>Hound, probably hounds, horses, helic copters.

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<v Speaker 1>Hound.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like what like my buddy's like three year

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>old son is really pumped about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hounds, horses, and helicopter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's going to be the name of his memoirs.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's that's super interesting. Tell me how now, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing with helicopters?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the helicopter deal started.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been gutting all kinds of whitetail hunts,

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 4>turkey hunts, bird hunts, duck hunts. I had a bow

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 4>fishing guide business for a long time with their boats,

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 4>and uh I was literally on a on a ranch

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 4>one day catching cattle and that helicopter pilot said, hey, man,

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 4>like you you think you you know, you think you'd

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 4>want to catch deer with us, And I instantly I'm

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 4>all in, you know, let's do it. And uh So

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<v Speaker 4>I went on a few catch jobs with a with

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<v Speaker 4>a capture team and man, it's been a pretty cool experience.

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<v Speaker 5>So big horn, sheep, mule deer, whitetail deer.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you working for when you're doing that?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? I worked kind of for like three or

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<v Speaker 5>four different companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, there's Bob McCoy. He's down in Santa Fe, Texas, and.

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<v Speaker 2>These are these are companies that are like wildlife well

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<v Speaker 2>like so like specialize in capturing and release.

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 5>So Bob's like lots of helicopters.

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 4>He flies guys from his own airport offshore to the

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 4>offshore drilling rigs and he halts those guys back and forth.

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 4>And uh, he's got some like MT. Five hundred helicopters

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 4>and stuff that are you know what, what you use

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 4>for capture work. So he gets government capture contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, that's it. That's what I'm looking for. Government

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<v Speaker 2>capture contract Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, we uh we went and call her

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of big horn sheep in Washington State and

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 4>uh and just all along the Columbia River.

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<v Speaker 2>There and you were you told he told me he

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<v Speaker 2>was he was mugging big horn sheep. Oh yeah, tell

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>us what that means.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically we would fly around, we'd find big horn

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 4>sheep that fit the profile with the biologists wanted us

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<v Speaker 4>to call, and then we kind of push those sheep

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<v Speaker 4>away to an area where it's just safe for us

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 4>to get out because obviously it's a rough, rough terrain

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 4>and we'd single that sheep out, shoot it with a

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 4>net gun, get a net over it, just to kind

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 4>of slow it down and get as close as we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Hop out, tie it, take the net off, put the

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<v Speaker 4>collar on.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd get a hair mug, and it means you're just

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>just get on there. Yeah, you just man this big

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>orn show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and get you a blood sample, hair sample.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 5>You measure some different glands and some different measurements, and.

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.479
<v Speaker 4>Then we swab them for pneumonia. And basically the callers

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 4>have a big number on them. So if we go

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 4>back and say pneumonia is really affecting you know that

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 4>that specific herd of sheep, then they'll come back in

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 4>there and cull those sheep that come back positive for

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 4>that pnemonia. So basically, grab it, tie it, take the

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 4>net off, do your whole work up on it, let

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 4>it back up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many how many times have you done

0:26:59.119 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>work like that?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say that job we call it, I

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 4>think we call Heed one hundred and fifty big horn

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 4>up there, something like that, and uh, it was one

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 4>hundred and something. Mule deer also on that project. We

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 4>were up there for about a month. We had a

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of bad weather days.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 5>Usually it's just boom boom boom, fifty headed day or more.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean catching white tail and stuff and exotics in Texas,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 5>you know. I mean that we have one hundred animal days,

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, and there's guys that do more than that.

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.239
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So helicopter work, yeah, you don't fly helicopters.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Now you've you've with wildlife and now but you specialize

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>in wildlife.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are a wildlife.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Manager that has managed a bunch of different ranches, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how why you're managing this ranch out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes sir, Yes, sir, this is this is too confusing.

0:27:58.440 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna have to be a three part past

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 2>year on Marshall because we hadn't even got into the

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yellowstone thing.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeh, we got We've got a lot of ground to cover, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, but you you did uh wildlife management for

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of ranches.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I'd come in.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Some ranches would just have me come in and something

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 4>as simple as predator trap or call some stuff that

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 4>they needed to get rid of or capture it and

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 4>sell it to another ranch or whatever. I'd buy those animals,

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 4>mark them up sell them, just like any product, you know.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 4>And uh so I did a lot of that, so

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 4>all in Texas, Yeah, all in Texas, and some stuff

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 4>in Oklahoma too, and uh you know that they'd call

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 4>me in sometimes I'd just go to a high fence

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 4>ranch that was things just weren't working for them. They

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't have the right management in place, didn't have the

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 4>animals that they needed to have in that business. There's

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of ranch managers where ranches have these assets,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 4>these animals, and for some crazy reason, these animals seem

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 4>to leave the ranch in coolers, but the ranch doesn't

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 4>get paid for it, which really cuts into profits. So

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 4>you get a lot of guys that their business is

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 4>just not being run properly. And I could come in

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 4>there and figure out what the problem was, figure out

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 4>why they're not making money, kind of get them going

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 4>in the right direction, find them, you know, a little

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 4>bit of clientele, find them the right guy to guide

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and and then just kind of step away from it

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and sell them animals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Texas is a wild place.

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Texas is a wild place, okay, So, but a lot

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>of your career has revolved around wildlife management, Yes, sir.

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So you did outfit you did.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>You've done a lot of outfitting, yes, sir, but you've

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>also done like held contract helicopter work, you know which,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and then managing these ranches, which is what you're doing today.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the reason we know you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir and uh. And this is hands down the

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 5>best job yet.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's managing this place.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 4>The kim Brose, the family that I worked for, Tim

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 4>and Kim easy to remember, but it's it's t k

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 4>landing cattle and they're just the nicest people in the world.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 4>And just their dream of what's going on here is

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 4>like every outdoorsman's dream.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 5>So it's just it's so cool to work for somebody

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 5>that's like got the same goals in mind. Is like,

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 5>you can't. There's no goal you can come up with

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 5>different than theirs that you're gonna like better. Like it's

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 5>just kind of the perfect plan. You know.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 4>We're starting a horse program, starting a cattle program. It's

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 4>all coming from scratch. This will be the first full

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>elk season here for us. It'll be first mill deer

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 4>season here for us. We might be the first people

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 4>running hounds on this place in a decade, you know, And.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just you're not guiding us out here. We we

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 2>just came, we brought some dogs. We've been just hunting

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>with you.

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. No, this is just friends having a good time.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 4>And that's what they're about, you know, Like we're not

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 4>a big commercial hunting operation. You're not going to see

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 4>us trying to sell hunts all the time anything like that.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a friend's family business kind of deal. And

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, y'all are friends now you come hunt, you know,

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, yeah, and

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 4>uh so it's really cool for like always in the

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 4>hunting industry, for me, it was wake up every morning

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 4>and hustle, hustle, hustle, just to make sure you had

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 4>a trip that week, right, Like there was there was

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 4>weeks bowfishing where you blow the motor in the airboat

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's like you'll almost go stand on the corner

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 4>with a cardboard sign trying to sell some bowfishing trips

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 4>to get that.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Would you tell me you you you had one hundred

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and fifty six days you got it?

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 5>I did. I had a one year. I did one

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty six bow fishing trips in a year.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Now, which is a lot.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>There's so many different different things. Just been here with

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you for a couple of days that I've learned about

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you tell us about working on the set of Yellowstone.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 5>Uh, Yellowstone was super cool, Like like what did you do?

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of had like a wildlife position with

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 4>them where it was cool. I'd get to go scout

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 4>ranches and find like places for scenes for them working

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 4>for locations. This got Dustin Daniels and will Anks. They

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 4>were super cool, and so I did a lot of

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>like ranch scouting for them. And they'd be like, Hey,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 4>we need a river crossing that's this deep, this wide,

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 4>we need thirty horses to be able to cross it.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 4>We need a sandbank on the other side to slide down.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 5>And I would go look on these ranches and be

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 5>like what about this spot? You know? Yeah, And it

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 5>was just really cool.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 7>Man.

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Before they'd ride horses through pastors or gather cattle, I'd

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 5>go out their horseback and make sure there was no

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 5>like hazards or snakes. You know, a big part of

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 5>what I did there was snake wrangling. Man's crazy. We

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 5>caught a lot of rattlesnakes, a lot of copperheads.

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So when you caught a rattlesnake, yep, it had to

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>be by the book of the book.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 4>We would catch the rattlesnake, we'd put the rattlesnake in

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 4>a good safe that met their requirements, and then we

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 4>would film and stuff, and then we would take that

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 4>snake and put it exactly back where we found it.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>One thing I will say about that whole production, The

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 4>movie business is not for me. I won't be doing

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 4>it again. Way too many people for me. But I

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 4>was blown away by how respectful they were to the

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 4>land and to animals, real stuff. Yeah, they really were, man,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, and I mean some of the stuff I

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 4>did was stupid.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, Hey, we're gonna use this old building, but

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 5>there's a skunk that lives there. We need to trap

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 5>that skunk. You know, we're put it right back. Yeah,

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 5>it's never been in my rollerdex to go ahead at

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 5>least the skunk, you know what I mean. I gotta

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 5>do what.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 4>So like you know, and nuisance trapping and stuff, it's

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 4>like you just eliminate it, you know. But I was

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 4>blown away by how much care they actually had on

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 4>that stuff, like, and it was a cool group of people.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 4>It really was a cool The coolest thing about it,

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to say. The crew was three hundred people

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>plus every day, like it was insane, and every person

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 4>knew your name. It seemed like every person come over there,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 4>have coffee with you. I mean even Tim McGraw, Sam Elliott,

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 4>faith Hill. I mean they just all just hey, how's

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 4>your morning going. You know, just the kindest people in

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 4>the world. And I never saw an argument Yellowstone eighteen

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 4>eighty three, Bass Reeves, Like, I never saw.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 5>It fall apart.

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty impressive to see that many people from

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 4>that many different walks of life and that many different

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 4>There was everything you could imagine works there, buddy, Yeah,

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 4>and it was just never a big nothing was ever.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 4>There was just no big confrontations, no big nothing like.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty incredible. Just how grease that wheel was.

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean it really went well. So yeah, it was cool.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 4>I did it for a while and I just got

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 4>burned out. It was seven days a week, fourteen fifteen,

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 4>sixteen hours a day, lots of time just sitting in

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 4>the truck, waiting on the next thing, waiting on the

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 4>next thing, and my add just.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 5>Runs rampant sitting in the pickup. Man, you tell me

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna pay me to catch snakes, I'm gonna go

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 5>catch some steaks, you know what I mean.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>I just hated sitting in the truck so much, and

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 4>I hated just waiting. The waiting game just killed me

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 4>on it.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>But man, what a unique experience though, And y'all have

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>any y'all have. I mean, I'm kind of just like

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>we're just like hitting the hits with marshall right.

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 4>The worst part is you don't have time for your friends.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 4>You don't have time for your hounds. You don't have

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>time for your horses, you don't have time for your

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 4>change the oil in your truck.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Like it just consumes your whole life. And my cow.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Business got rougher. My dogs weren't as good. And that

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 4>was a big part of it for me, was just

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 4>it took all your time.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Man, I think that that that is very a very

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 3>niche job. You know, there are a whole lot of

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 3>guys that have a job like that. I had a

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 3>question about, uh oh, how did you get that job?

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Just a random phone call. I thought somebody was messing

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 5>with me.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Some people called me asking me if I could catch

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 4>a rattlesnake and Weatherford and I was like, like I

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 4>do like helicopter capture and stuff, not really snake stuff.

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 4>And then a few days later, my buddy Brandon Beard

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.919
<v Speaker 4>Didn't call me, that works for Taylor Shared and he's like, hey, man,

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 4>like we need somebody out here to look for snakes,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 4>like for real, Like you should call this guy back.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 5>And I called him and next day I was there.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And it kind of turned into this.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it turned into like helping local house.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you did it for like six months or something.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 4>No, I did it over a year, over a year,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 4>about a year and a half, probably maybe a little

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 4>longer than that.

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 5>It was. We did a few I did a few

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 5>episodes of Yellowstone. I wasn't like up in Montana and

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 5>all that.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I just did Texas stuff, but spent a lot of

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>time on the Four Sixes, which was really cool.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 5>I met some cool people out there.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Joe Leathers caught me picking up chad antlers out there

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 4>one day.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 5>He just gave me a dirty look. Though I was

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 5>lucky get away with it. But I think I got

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 5>like three antlers off the four Sixes, which was a

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 5>good find.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 4>But uh yeah, So I got to spend some time

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 4>at the Sixes and stuff and that was cool.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 5>And then his place there in Weatherford.

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 4>I've been around it quite a bit before too, and

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, he did major things out there and it

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 4>was cool. And I guess if I did it again,

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 4>I would go work for Locations. I think Locations has

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 4>the coolest job.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>What's that mean?

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 4>So like Locations is like the guy that goes out

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 4>and is it like, hey, we love your place in Arkansas.

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 4>We'd like to use your place in Arkansas for this

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 4>scene where this.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 5>Gunfight and this and that and whatever. And it's crazy.

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 4>They'll come in there and move everything you own out

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 4>of that house, film there for twenty four hours straight

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 4>and move everything you own back in that house the

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 4>same spot.

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 5>You never even touch a cup. It's the craziest thing

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 5>you've ever seen in your life.

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 4>And but those guys they go out find the ranches,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 4>find the locations, like it's just a cool it's scouting.

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like what we like to do, you know, you

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 4>just go scout country. And that's just they had a

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 4>pretty cool gig. They had a pretty cool gig, but

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 4>they also had a ton of headaches, which is why

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be doing locations in the movie world.

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Wow, man, that's wild, man, that is wild justin bear

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>any any any thoughts, questions?

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>What okay, there's just like I've got.

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Two other things at least that i want to talk

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>to Marshall about. But y'all, you've been around him for

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days here, anything anything you want to

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>ask them about or just what people what.

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Would would what would be interesting?

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 9>I'm trying to think because it seems like the whole

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 9>time we've been here just there's like never ending.

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 5>The stories never stop with Marshalls. Hey, lot happens when

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to get in if.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Some dove cop cabin, we would name this episode the

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Stories Never Stopped Marshall bry But since run Lonesome Dove Cabin.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>We guys, if you don't have.

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 4>A bunch of stories, you're not having enough fun. Man,

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 4>I've worked hard. My whole life did not have to

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 4>work hard, you know what I'm saying.

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, Uh, Marshall, I had a question about about your

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 3>job here. What kind of what kind of things are

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you doing to like tell me about what kind of

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 3>wildlife you have here? On the ranch. Yeah, and what

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>you're doing to to to manage them.

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, We've just we've got a really really healthy l herd.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 4>We got a ton of mule deer. Uh generally we

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of bears, so we try to kill one.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 5>It's just we've got a ton of wildlife.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 4>And kind of my everyday deal is, uh start in

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 4>the morning, and I just kind of the place is

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 4>so big, you just kind of have to pick an

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 4>area and say, hey, I'm going to concentrate my next

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 4>four days on this area. I'm gonna get all our

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 4>stands and stuff, right, I'm gonna trim trees on that

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 4>section of a road. I'm gonna bring an excavator down

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 4>here and get these big rocks out of the road.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna build a new road from point A to

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 4>point B.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>That's another great thing about this job. As the boss

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 4>man comes out and he's like, man, I sure would

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 4>like a road to up there, and it's it's so

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 4>cool because you're like, heck, yeah, go walk me out

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 4>of road. I'm gonna go build a road up there,

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 4>just like I want to build a road up there,

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 4>you know. And then to see him show up and

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>use that road, and they're like, oh man, this's worked.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 5>That's exact road I wanted, you know.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 4>And that's just that's super rewarding to me that I

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 4>don't have to answer to one hundred people. I don't

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 4>have a bunch of micro management. It's just like, hey man,

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 4>i'd like this, I'd like this, I'd like this, and

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 4>you just kind of go make it happen. He understands

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 4>the place is big. He understands you can't just take

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 4>a piece of equipment. I mean, the highway washed away today,

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 4>like we might not even be able to make it

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 4>into part of the wrench, you know.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So he I think that's why we hadn't killed a bear.

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 4>The logistics are tough, like, but I just I pick

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 4>an area. I build roads, a trim trees, you know,

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 4>just all of it. Everyday ranch stuff, you know. Just

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 4>it's I guess I have manager on my title, but

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm just a ranch hand. I guess you'd say that

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 4>manages wildlife, you know, and God, you know, God, friends

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>and family and all that kind of stuff.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean in the in the elk cutting in this

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>part of New Mexico is about as good as it gets.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 5>It's it's ignorant. I mean it's yeah, pretty man.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm super pumped for my first full elk season up.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Here for sure.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Incredible man.

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Now, but really, what you're maybe most passionate about in terms.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Of hunting is lying hunting one thousand. That's it.

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 7>Huh.

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you have.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 4>If I could not do anything else the rest of

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 4>my life, I'd get up every morning in light hunt,

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 4>no doubt.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you've got you got a bunch of how

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>many dogs you got right now?

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 5>I got about ten dogs right now?

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And and do you have a line dog right now?

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 2>That's is I mean, do you have one that all

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that that that one is the best dog I've ever had?

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you have mediocre dog?

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 5>I got?

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.439
<v Speaker 4>I got two of the best dogs I've ever had

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 4>right now, My red and white dog Dan that y'all

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 4>saw the bob tail, you know, not the short bobtail,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>but the medium bob tail. He came from a buddy

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 4>up in Montana. And he is just a jam up

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 4>line dog. I mean, he he'll grind it out, He'll

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 4>take his time. Uh, you know, he's just he's patient.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 4>He's young, which is just it's cool to have a

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 4>four year old dog that's just on top of his game.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, probably my second best dog is that timber dog,

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 4>which is the red dog.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Clifford, the bigger red dog.

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got a bad knee here and there and uh,

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 4>but he's four.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 5>And he's a phenomenal dog.

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Also, I may have only got the dog because of

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 4>that bad You know that I look back at it

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 4>because that definitely wasn't spoke of first, but phenomenal dog.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't sell him for the world. You know.

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>That brings up an interesting question selling line dogs.

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Give me a spectrum for how much a good I mean,

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>or a great dry ground line dog would go for

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 2>right now in twenty twenty five.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 5>It's honestly depending on the dog. I mean, you can

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 5>almost name your price.

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean these people horses, hounds and mules sell and

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 4>stuff like it's gone crazy.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, And so what's name and your price?

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 7>Man?

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's you hear.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Rumors guys paying over one hundred thousand dollars for just

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 4>top notch.

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Dry ground line dogs.

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 3>You kidding me? One hundred thousands.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about You don't have to do anything but

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 4>open the dog box and stay out of his way,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 4>go down there and get him off the tree.

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 5>Like dogs like that. I mean, if you find a

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 5>dog like that for lesson twenty thirty thousand dollars, you're

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 5>doing the deal.

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Like so if somebody gave me a if somebody, if

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 4>I priced a dog like that and somebody gave me,

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, hey, man, I'm asking forty thousand for him, like,

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I would not be blown away.

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying I would go spend that.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you twenty five thousand dollars right now for

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 1>your best dog.

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 5>Done.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I was kidding. That sounds good to be.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't really sell him, but I just want to

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 5>see if you're bluffing a bluffing. But now I know

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 5>how to play cards later.

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well, I mean my question though, was would

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you sell your dog for twenty five thousand or is

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 2>he worth it?

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's not worth it, Yeah, I mean.

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 5>He's worth it to me. Yeah, I guess it's the

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 5>best way to say that.

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 4>My thing is, I could sell that dog for twenty

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 4>five thousand, but I'd have a hard time replacing him

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 4>for that. Yeah, you know, that's my biggest deal. I

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 4>don't have a half million dollar budget to go blow

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 4>online dogs. You know, I got two really nice dogs.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 4>I got one that I just plumb lucked out on

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 4>that made a dog, And then I got some really

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 4>nice young dogs coming up. And to me, I like

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 4>watching a young dog progress so much that I would

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.919
<v Speaker 4>almost sell my top dog every year if I didn't

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 4>have to breed my Like, that's my thing. Like, I

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 4>want to be in a position where I don't ever

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 4>have to buy a dog again.

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 5>What I always had.

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like I had line dogs, sold them all,

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 4>took a different job, bought line dogs again, sold them,

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:37.320
<v Speaker 4>got a different job keeping. Yeah, so like I wasn't

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 4>able to keep my line going really on line dogs,

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Like I kind of started over like three times. And

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 4>these are hands down some of the better ones I've

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 4>had by far, especially Dan. But yeah, it's just you know,

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 4>if a guy's got a bunch of money, he can

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 4>have a wicked settle line.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Think about the thing about a line dog that's different

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 2>than the beard dog, and tell me just if it's right.

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And you two Marshalls, you can you need about to

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>come out here and to be successful, you probably need

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen dogs to be to be a good

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>to catch a sufficient bear hunter.

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 8>At least at least because twenty dogs, because well, just

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 8>hold on, let me, let me, let me just say

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 8>what I'm gonna say.

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>To be a to come out here and to be

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>a successful line hunter, just assuming that, you know, I mean,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not calculating the skill of the hunter and knowing

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 2>where to go and being here when it snows. But

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 2>in theory, you could come out here with three or

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>four really good line dogs and catch a line sure enough,

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>catch lines consistently, especially in wet ground, with three or

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 2>four dogs.

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to answer that.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>But the point is that's that's why a line dog

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 2>is worth so much, Because you go by one man,

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 2>you pretty much got pack, I mean, one real good

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>wood and with some backup dogs.

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 7>If you take one good one and you got three

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 7>that'll go with him and just push him, you're good. Yeah,

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 7>the bear deal you gotta have. You need to be

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 7>putting eight on the ground a lot of dog power,

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 7>and then you got to do it again tomorrow and

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 7>then eight or ten years to day they're smoked. Yeah,

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:20.959
<v Speaker 7>that's kind of what we've run into.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when I and the pads of their feet, their knees,

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:25.720
<v Speaker 4>their hips.

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it takes it out of them up here.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people do not think that terrain is

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 4>like this in New Mexico, and it's like both of

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 4>y'all today. It was funny I told you riding around

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 4>with you all at two different times, he said, if

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 4>somebody just dropped me off in a helicopter here blindfolded,

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 4>I would think it was Montana. Yeah, And it was

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 4>funny because thirty minutes later, I ride with your dad

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, you know what, it's just like the Rockies,

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and it's it's so it's so true, like when you're

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 4>up here and it's like beautiful hayfields and a lake

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 4>and ducks and geese everywhere, and then you go one

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.359
<v Speaker 4>hundred your more yards and it's like, all right, we're

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 4>in the foothills.

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 5>There's mill deer. This is cool. And then you go

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 5>over that hill and you're like, wow, big mountains.

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That's well, what's our elevation right here? Eighty four hundred feet?

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, we're a little over eight thousand just right here.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 2>So I mean you're starting and it feels like we're

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.800
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the futa. We're in the valley,

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 2>we're eighty four hundred feet. Yeah, Josh, here's your answer.

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Here's your answer. The answer you've been waiting for is

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that when you turn, when you turn loose the line dog,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you're turning him on a track that that line has

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 2>made maybe the day before, maybe the day before that.

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's most of the work that that dog is doing.

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 2>He's trailing that line while that line was hunting and moving,

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and that line didn't even know it's being tracked. And

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 2>that dog's got to catch up with that line, which

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:54.879
<v Speaker 2>could be miles of trailing. And then when the cat

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>actually perceives that he's being chased by a hound, he

0:48:58.560 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really run that far.

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Once you got him jumped, you're once once that your

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 4>success mountain's laying on a.

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Mule deer killed over here with a full belly. And

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know it, but for the last six hours

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>there's been dogs six miles away that have been trailing

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>him through the mountains where he walked last night. When

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 2>he hears that dog bay, he jumps up and he

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 2>runs about three hundred yards and those dogs start catching up,

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 2>catching up to him, and he goes up a tree.

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>A bear is.

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>You might cold trail a bear for a long time

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>before he knows he's being chased. But as soon as

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 2>he's jumped, as soon as that bear goes, oh there's

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.919
<v Speaker 2>dogs starts, he turns on the after burners. And he's

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 2>got more horsepower than your dogs usually and and and

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 2>your dogs have already cold trailed him, and then they've

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>got to catch him and pressure him enough to go

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 2>up a tree, and a lot of I mean, sometimes

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the bear want him go up a tree. That's what

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 2>we ran into on the first say, just a walking bear,

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>a bear that had no problem with the dogs, just

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of yapping at it.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 5>Right, I had a problem with it. Covered a lot

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 5>of country to just watch him walk around.

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>How far do you think you rode?

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 4>I think when you looked at my track or what

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 4>was it like twenty it was like twenty three miles

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 4>or twenty seven miles or something. So and we'd already

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 4>traveled what eleven miles as a group, least horseback, you know,

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 4>And then we kind of had a split deal going on,

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 4>and my good two best dogs went after the walking

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 4>bear over there, so I had no choice to go.

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I went and went and went, called

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 4>a neighbor, went through their place, went and went, went,

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 4>called a neighbor, went through their place, went went, went

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 4>back of a neighborhood, walking down the public road. You know,

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 4>my horse tied to a gate four miles back. I mean,

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 4>it's just when a bear goes, a bear goes. Yeah,

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 4>and it's just.

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>That's why you need a bunch of bear dogs.

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>And not to say I mean a really top notche

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 2>bear dog would be expensive too, but I think a

0:50:58.640 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>line dog would be more.

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 4>What does a truck to tree? No questions asked bear

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 4>dog go for?

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 7>It's a good question.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 6>One, yeah, weeah no idea, Yeah, general sell bear dogs

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 6>as a pack or do you buy individual dogs?

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Generally?

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it would be I think I would be lying,

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 7>but from what I know or what I've seen, it

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 7>would be as a pack like them guys on the

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 7>East Coast. And I'm sure there's gonna be some that's like, No,

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 7>we would sell one dog, you know, but I think

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 7>it's selled by the pack and it's not anything like

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 7>the price of these line dogs, right, I mean you

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 7>can I think you can go find a gem up

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 7>bear dog for eight ten thousand. Yeah, I mean turn

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 7>them out, look at him at the tree.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.359
<v Speaker 4>So really, for as many dogs as you got to have,

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 4>really a set of line dogs and a set of

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 4>bear dogs kind of evens out.

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 5>You're just less dogs, more money.

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just the truth of it is, bear hunting

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is more dangerous for the dogs.

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh bad. So that's why we had and went the

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 5>extra seventeen miles. Check on her dog.

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.240
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty pretty rare for a hound to get killed

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 2>while you're running a line.

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I've only lost one ever, and we got on a

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 4>cliff and went over the rocks.

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Never I've never had it like a lion killed a dog.

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, man, all that is just so it's fascinating.

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Bear. Tell us about your mule.

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 9>Well, I've been training slow Trap for the last two months,

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 9>started riding them within the last month. And before I

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.959
<v Speaker 9>even got on them, I think like a month ago

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 9>you asked me if you want to take them to

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 9>New Mexico in one month.

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 5>I was impressed by the thirty day mule man. I

0:52:59.040 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 5>was blown away.

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So I started working on him pretty hard and

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 9>got him riding. It's like the last two weeks I've

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 9>been doing quite a bit of trail riding with him,

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 9>but we took him out here and just rode him

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 9>around with all the other mules and horses.

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they on a wild ride that first day. I

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>mean that's kind of what I was.

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 2>So you went further than us because you went after

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>your dogs, but we easily went fifteen miles in rough country.

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, it was. It was the rougher stuff.

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Was righting on our heels the whole time. And it

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 1>was also the fastest stuff I've done with him.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 9>Like I've gotten him to trot, you know, just down

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.439
<v Speaker 9>like a straight stretch, but we were trotting a lot

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 9>more than you know, like with this style of hunting.

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>We were going a lot faster.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 9>So he was trotting and got yeah yeah, yeah.

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 3>But he saw the truck and trail yeah, headed home.

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he was getting tired there on the first day,

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 9>the last couple of miles, and whenever we came down

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 9>in the valley and you could see the truck on

0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 9>the other side and he saw the other mules running,

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 9>I just had to give him the slightest cue and

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 9>he just took off all the way across the well.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 1>It was for us.

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of fun bringing that meal out here

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and just fun for me to see Bear. I mean

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 2>he was riding that thing in a thirty foot diameter

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 2>round pen, you know, like.

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Three weeks ago, I mean for real.

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh, I mean just in the last month

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 2>he's taken it out by itself on solo trips and

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of national forest in Arkansas. Yeah, and uh yeah,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>but I also didn't really have any doubt that it

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:31.720
<v Speaker 2>would do good.

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the mule's done so good and Bear's Yeah.

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Bear got some help from a friend of Justin and

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I is a guy named Elvis Middleton, who those are

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 2>mountain mules.

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Elvis, those are just Ozark mountains.

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 7>Those are mountain mules.

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Got you, got you Ozark mountain miles. Yeah.

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 2>He's a phenomenal trainer at getting them started. And uh

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 2>we went over there for about really a full day

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 2>with Elvis.

0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.919
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, before and I've been restored messaging him quite a bit.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.879
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, he's shown me a lot of the groundwork

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 9>and just kind of how to go about it. But

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 9>it's been a really interesting process training a mule. I

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 9>was I was kind of just wanting to do it

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 9>at first, just for the experience, but now that I've

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 9>gotten into it, you know, I had like one from

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 9>like start to now using I'm i'm i'm.

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm hooked. I think I'm going to get

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>another one. Yeah. Yeah, we're working on one right now.

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yep.

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 2>So and then Josh, you did great too, man. So

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Josh is Josh is about as good a meal, about

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 2>as new a mule rider as slow trap.

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Josh, Josh is like a thirty day many Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but you you put on some miles we

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 2>probably rode.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.840
<v Speaker 2>We rode eight miles today, didn't we ten?

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>We rode ten miles that he tracked us today?

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that mule did good. It's a big boy

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to carry around.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 3>To carry around them.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.359
<v Speaker 1>That's Justin's That's a whole lot of country.

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 5>On top of a mule right there.

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I want to know, Marshall, what are your feelings about mules.

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 5>I knew y'all, I knew y'all were going to do this.

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 5>They're cool. Mules are cool. I will say that one

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.840
<v Speaker 5>thousand percent, one thousand percent.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 4>I think they definitely have their place. Like I get it.

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 4>I do get it.

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Today I rode Betty Bay up our big old boulder,

0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, and like that's cool. I would no question

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 5>jump my horse, any of my horses up on that rock.

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 5>That turning around and coming back off of it would

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 5>have been near as graceful as they were on that mule.

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.240
<v Speaker 4>So like, I do have a huge respect for mules.

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 4>And I told you I had a huge respect for

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.359
<v Speaker 4>mules before, just from seeing the things that people do

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 4>on them. It's just it's you're a cowboy, basically.

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 5>I think the question is, like, let's talk about how

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 5>the endurance of a horse and a mule that I've

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 5>been hearing about because I don't know, I've covered a

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 5>lot of country about run five mile race. When we

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 5>got back.

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, hey Smurf, we called him old Blue, Oh smurf,

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 2>dead gum. That is that's the Marshall has an incredible animal.

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's that.

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Horse is part of our horse program here at the

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 4>ranch and tell us about it. He's he's just a

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 4>five year old blue horse.

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Is he fifteen one fifteen?

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 5>He's probably fifteen one fifteen to two.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Betty weighs thirteen hundred pounds though at least Yeah, he's

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a big style horse. So like Betty bay Weys one

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 2>thousand and fifties and that's a good sized mule.

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen three.

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I bet that horse wears fourteen fifty probably it's

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 4>out his rump is, yeah, two and a half. And

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.439
<v Speaker 4>he can run, he go, and he's got And that's man.

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm lucky on horses, man, because I mean the bay horse,

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the black horse, the blue horse, the they're all great horses.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 5>And they'll do that right there every day.

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean they you know.

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 4>And that's another thing, you know, I think a lot

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 4>of the horses that mule guys compare to our guys.

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 5>That a lot of guys work all week.

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Go grab their mule, go coon hunting, go squirrel, go

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 4>do whatever, and they ride that mule once or twice

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 4>a week. And I think you know what y'all's mules

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 4>did on a schedule versus like, if you're gonna do

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 4>that on a horse, you gotta put a lot of

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 4>miles on a horse, Like you got to keep that

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 4>thing tuned up. You know, if I only ride my

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.439
<v Speaker 4>horse once a week, there is no way my horse

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 4>could have done all that, you know, But you know,

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 4>you keep them legged up, you keep them in shape,

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I do understand it does It is

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 4>a lot more maintenance. My one horse probably ate more

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 4>hay the last three days than four.

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 5>Y'all's mules, you know. But you know, when you go

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 5>sports car, you gotta put a lot of gas in it.

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was, it was, It was impressive. Now I

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 2>can't say I'm not.

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 5>Have a better horse than that. No, Well, if they

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 5>don't kill a line with us, and I'll even let

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:14.080
<v Speaker 5>him ride a good.

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:17.919
<v Speaker 3>Horse basically basically, So what I just heard you say

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:22.480
<v Speaker 3>is you know how Evan Felker talked about alcohol, like

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll never do it. That's basically what Marshall said about mules.

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I like, I wouldn't other people, but they're not for me.

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd like to have a pack mule, just to

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 4>have a mule, because I do think they're cool. Yeah,

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 4>but I'm gonna have a hard time walking past my

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 4>horses to ride a mule.

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, and but you're not the average horse guy either, Yeah,

0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean you gotta pin with with with what you

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 2>got going on here at the ranch. I mean you

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 2>got a pin full of horses that are, yes, sir,

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 2>top end performance ranch horses. Rodey of horses, cutting horses,

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 2>raining horse, I mean pretty incredible animals.

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I mean I got my two pickup horses

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.120
<v Speaker 4>and then my cow horse, and they, I mean.

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 5>There's big, stout, athletic horses.

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 4>And then the ranch has some really nice horses, and

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 4>we've started getting some brood mares to raise our own

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 4>horses and stuff and just kind of barely getting into

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:14.120
<v Speaker 4>the horse program here. And yeah, it's just there's nothing

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 4>better than riding a good horse.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.240
<v Speaker 4>I grew up riding junkie horses, and it was like

1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 4>it's I didn't really make it, but as soon as

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I could afford a luxury item, I went and got

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the best horse I could get. And ever since then,

1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, my buddy Bobby Hayley always says like life's.

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Too short to ride a crappy horse. I don't know,

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 5>can you say that on here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but yeah, life's too short to ride a sorry horse.

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<v Speaker 4>And he like converted me completely, cause I used to

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 4>just have a bunch of horses, you know, and he's

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 4>the one that like fine to me. He was like, dude,

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 4>just get it, get rid of those three and get

1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 4>one so we can actually like go get something done,

1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:56.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, like pull up on something you're proud of,

1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 4>you know. And ever since then, it's like, now I've

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 4>got a I don't know, Ferrari budget, or I got

1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 4>a Ferrari dreams on a Volkswagen budget, I think, is

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:07.120
<v Speaker 4>what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, yeah, I'm very blessed to have some awesome

1:01:10.360 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 5>horses here at the wrench.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, big news. What's that I bought a mule?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, Josh, is this the last time I have

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<v Speaker 7>to rent out Merle?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, we'll see. I'll see how this mule goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be running back to come get Merle.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll get hired.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well, tell tell us about.

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<v Speaker 3>Your real Well, she's she's a big girl. You've never

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 3>ritten her yet. I haven't written her yet. I've seen

1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:39.320
<v Speaker 3>her once.

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<v Speaker 7>Mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just say it was a total impulse spy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was your buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was an impulse spy from a buddy. So

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't ritten her yet. But she's a big girl.

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<v Speaker 3>She's sixteen hands, so hopefully she'll be stout enough to

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<v Speaker 3>carry a big boy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm a break to your rope ladder. Take with you,

1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:07.760
<v Speaker 4>So you can get on it. Yeah, collapsible bucket, that's

1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.360
<v Speaker 4>what you need. That's gonna be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got another horseman in our presence, Justin. He's

1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 2>bought two pretty nice roping horses in the last two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Bought two, sold one, bought two, sold one.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you keep them in the same field as your mules?

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<v Speaker 7>I do. They're not allowed to be in the same

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<v Speaker 7>field as with my dad and stepmoms because they're in

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.960
<v Speaker 7>the same mentality as Marshall here. They're fire breeding dragons

1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.560
<v Speaker 7>to kill somebody. What do you mean mules can't be

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<v Speaker 7>with top end horses.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, they're afraid to hurt them.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah for real? Oh yeah, bad deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Justin, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This may have been a private conversation we had that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to share it when you said, like

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<v Speaker 2>your your roping horses, they get hurt easy. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>hardly ride them out of the pen.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, but but yeah, for the most part, you're

1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:06.000
<v Speaker 7>not going to take a single horse that you've seen

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:07.960
<v Speaker 7>it go through the roping and come out here and

1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:10.120
<v Speaker 7>do what we did. Not a chance you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, ninety percent of the horses, those guys are

1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:15.240
<v Speaker 4>going on. I can't do a quarter of what that

1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:16.360
<v Speaker 4>blue horse did.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Eighty five percent of them have never done anything

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<v Speaker 7>outside that arena. Yeah, and yeah, that that's a part

1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:26.640
<v Speaker 7>of why I have bought a second horse and sold

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<v Speaker 7>the other one, the first one, which he was fine

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<v Speaker 7>for what he was, but you wouldn't gonna do anything

1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:34.160
<v Speaker 7>with rope stairs on him in that arena. And well,

1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:36.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm no big cowboy, but if I want to go

1:03:36.880 --> 1:03:38.320
<v Speaker 7>do something on one, if I need to go catch

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<v Speaker 7>it here and pasture, if I need to go trail ride,

1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:42.080
<v Speaker 7>I want to go down to Buffalo. Whatever I want

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<v Speaker 7>to do, he wasn't doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And anyway, the second purchase, he's a lot nicer horse,

1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:50.200
<v Speaker 7>well rounded horse, more of.

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<v Speaker 1>A ranch horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean you can rope on him and do

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<v Speaker 2>our stuff, but you also go.

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<v Speaker 7>You can do anything you want to. I wouldn't be

1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:58.800
<v Speaker 7>scared a bit to bring him out here, really, honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't them. Yeah, but he would not be a

1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:06.280
<v Speaker 7>top end cellar. So somebody's want to go head steers. Yeah,

1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:10.760
<v Speaker 7>he's he isn't a finished you know, he is an

1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:13.800
<v Speaker 7>open horse by no means, how old is He's he's

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<v Speaker 7>a nice horse. Nice horse for me.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm curious to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I see way more horses that are really nice outside

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<v Speaker 4>can just go in the arena and dominate. And there's

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<v Speaker 4>so many horses you see do incredible things in the

1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:31.720
<v Speaker 4>arena that it takes three people load him in the trailer,

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<v Speaker 4>you get him down the alleyway.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, some of those.

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<v Speaker 4>Barrel horses you see crazy like you, it's ridiculous, man Like,

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<v Speaker 4>we have bucking horses that handle better than some of

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<v Speaker 4>them in the alleyway. It seems like, I mean them girls,

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<v Speaker 4>they got a halt when they when they come down there.

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<v Speaker 4>You watch some of those high end barrel horses. They'll

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<v Speaker 4>kill you before the before they run through the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it make me nervous.

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<v Speaker 5>YEA was doing that, that's uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My grandpa always said, don't date a barrel racer because

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have to deal with her horse.

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<v Speaker 5>The horse is almost impossible. That is a So I

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<v Speaker 5>got me a great girlfriend. It's not a barrel racer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was on that mule today too.

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<v Speaker 2>She did.

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<v Speaker 5>She rode her mule and we go a lot of

1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:23.600
<v Speaker 5>miles out here on horseback too. She loves it.

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<v Speaker 4>We packed mineral in and do all that.

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<v Speaker 5>She would you a check for Betty Bayer right now

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<v Speaker 5>if she had my check book, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Is it at the house? Can we get it to her?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I keep it down there at Texas place so she

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<v Speaker 5>can't get a hold of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean we've we've covered. We've covered quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>We have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what what else do we I mean, we've I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk to Marshall about line hunting, wildlife management,

1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the ranch, his horses. I mean, we hadn't even got

1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:06.840
<v Speaker 2>into the part of his life when he had How

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<v Speaker 2>many hog dogs did you have at the same time?

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<v Speaker 4>At one time I had sixty finished hog dogs on

1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:17.240
<v Speaker 4>the chain, plus puppies, and I had a few females.

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<v Speaker 1>Were big time into hog hunting in Texas for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I was pretty heavy in it, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>everything from like legitimately imported dogos, and I was what

1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:34.400
<v Speaker 5>I was doing was taking I was basically taking a

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<v Speaker 5>cata hula and coming up with a dog that was

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<v Speaker 5>a half catahula quarter blue tech quarter dogo. That was

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<v Speaker 5>my poison.

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<v Speaker 4>And they were just really, really rough dogs. I ran

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<v Speaker 4>all running catchdogs, and I just I had tons of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I was guiding hunts five six nights a week, and

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<v Speaker 4>you go through a lot of dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, just like the bear deal.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're gonna go every day, you gotta have a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of them and you wear them out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I probably had seventy five eighty dogs at

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<v Speaker 4>one time, but sixty sure enough.

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<v Speaker 5>Put them on the truck, go catch pigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I had six sets of those kennels and then about

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<v Speaker 5>thirty chains.

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, you take really good care of your dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>I take huge pride and take care of my dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Have clean kennels.

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<v Speaker 5>Your dogs are health They get out of They get

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<v Speaker 5>out of their kennels twice a day every day. Kensey

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<v Speaker 5>helps me with it, and we clean their pins twice

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<v Speaker 5>a day. I mean, these dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes those pins for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Full set, built those kennls, and he builds awesome dog kennles, y'all,

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<v Speaker 4>And I know he will just be absolutely a static

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<v Speaker 4>that he gets a shot. So Clay Nucombe, I already

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<v Speaker 4>gave him some kennels. You're gonna have to divvy up, so.

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<v Speaker 7>He needs two sets.

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<v Speaker 4>We need we need our and Demingo runs hog dogs

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff. That's why he started building kennels. He's another

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<v Speaker 4>guy from Weatherford, you know. And but yeah, builds all

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<v Speaker 4>some kennel's dog boxes all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, he'll dig that, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, I've gone and looked at some nice dogs

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<v Speaker 4>that I wanted to add to my pack. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go up to a guy's place and I just

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<v Speaker 4>look at the place around him, and I know he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't take as much pride in his dogs as I do.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have a hard time purchasing a dog from

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<v Speaker 5>somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I show up and there's ten days worth

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff in there and everything else, it's just to me,

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<v Speaker 4>it's did he get lucky because he's not working hard

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<v Speaker 4>enough to make a good dog. So like, I'd love

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<v Speaker 4>to make every dog I have, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the genetics here to just raise all my puppies. Like

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<v Speaker 4>there's I mean, if Warner Glenn calls you Thursday and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, hey man, I'd love to say you these

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<v Speaker 4>two six month old puppies, Like I'd tell him yes

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<v Speaker 4>while I was driving through my gate, I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 4>get out to unlock it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's people I'd love to get hounds from and

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<v Speaker 4>and the best ones you can't get. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>the hardest part, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yea.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I go over there, like some of these

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<v Speaker 4>guys got a bunch of money and everything else and

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<v Speaker 4>they got somebody else goes and I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 4>any names, but there's a guy in Texas that lives

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<v Speaker 4>like the dream life man, but he's got guys that

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<v Speaker 4>take care of his dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got guys that hunt his dogs. He's got guys

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<v Speaker 5>that like, to me, like, where's the fun in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Just owning? Yeah? Yeah, he just pretty much.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you imagine if I had like Jeffrey over there

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<v Speaker 5>cleaning my pins out put my dogs in the truck,

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<v Speaker 5>Like y'all wouldn't look at me. It's a hounsman. You're like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>there's oh Rich Marshall. He's got they're gonna go load

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<v Speaker 5>his wagon checked the air and his pires. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's cool. I don't know, disrespect like I wish I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could do that, yeah, but but.

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<v Speaker 4>I just like I enjoyed my time with those dogs

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<v Speaker 4>every and if you want a good handle and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be able to call them off, and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be able to do those things. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>I can tree a lion and take a picture and

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<v Speaker 4>do my deal and look at it and be proud

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<v Speaker 4>of myself, proud of my dogs, and I can whistle

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<v Speaker 4>and walk out of there and I don't even need

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<v Speaker 4>to carry a leash. There's you know, And but that

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<v Speaker 4>comes from spending time with them every single day, no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what rain, snow, sleek, hell, we've.

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<v Speaker 5>Had all of it since you've been here.

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<v Speaker 4>But and I mean, I just I have a huge

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<v Speaker 4>admiration for guys that really take care of their dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I noticed that right off.

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<v Speaker 7>I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe so, man, hey, this has been really good. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we are at the lonesome cabin. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>show people on YouTube the outside of the cabin. Well

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, yeah, man, they were right here. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where they shot it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty crazy, pretty crazy. Justin uh, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hat you got on there?

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<v Speaker 7>Dog and Hunt SPA Equipment Arkansas Equipment. Any Dog and

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<v Speaker 7>Hunt Spy needs call her hood yet Yep, had to

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<v Speaker 7>give Marshall a long range Guess they don't have them

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<v Speaker 7>New Mexico. You can order the equipment, have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, they're they're well known. Yeah, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to carry a full line first light.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's what I heard over equipment ARCHI.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can get a long range antenna in one

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<v Speaker 4>of them best in the same places.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Wow, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>To go to Arkansas here, come up here, we'll go talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm in have to ride a mule, yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the only way to up.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta ride.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, you can ride my big sixteen hand, that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you what. I'm gonna make you ride that

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<v Speaker 5>blue Horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I've got to. I got to ride that book.

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<v Speaker 7>You need to.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to ride the little black Horse too. Oh, Taco,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to. Taco's a sports car down there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, dirt, I probably.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's crazy because you only have to hold the

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<v Speaker 4>reins with one hand, so you got like a free

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<v Speaker 4>hand to do stuff with, talk on the phone or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because they're they're they're that Yeah, they're just they

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<v Speaker 1>got that kind of handlong.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we call that that Bobby Bobby Hayin lines,

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<v Speaker 4>my buddy that trains horses.

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<v Speaker 5>We call that the that Bobby Hayline chocolate.

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<v Speaker 4>He puts that chocolate on him, makes him sweet everybody after.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the only person I've ever met that literally he can.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll say, hey, can I see that horse for a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>And he'll get on him and go do his thing

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty forty minutes and he brings that horse over.

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<v Speaker 5>It's worth two thousand more dollars as soon as he

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<v Speaker 5>steps off of it. That's just the way he is.

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<v Speaker 7>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, marshall, thanks for having us out here. Man, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been having an incredible tank.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all for coming, y'all welcome all anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Well anytime really been good.

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<v Speaker 4>I want I want to see Bear come back with

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<v Speaker 4>that handmade bow. Oh yeah, so you made your own bow,

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<v Speaker 4>your own arrow heads?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you do for the string? You make the string? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you make the string or send you uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>We read uh, we read the other I think you

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<v Speaker 1>should kill it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she can killer line with it.

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<v Speaker 2>We read just the other day and some historical archives

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<v Speaker 2>where they were using twisted bear gut to make a

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<v Speaker 2>bow string. Have to try that, you know, taking the intestines,

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<v Speaker 2>drying them out and twisting it.

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<v Speaker 7>Because I've used squirrel gusts.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a bit twisted gut bow strings there.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing you need to do is get a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Josh, it's been a tall order this week up. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>keep the wild places wild because

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the bears live and we don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to find it