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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukman.

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Speaker 2: This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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Speaker 2: The bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of.

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Speaker 1: The actual bear Grease podcast.

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Speaker 2: Presented by f h F Gear, American Maid, purpose built

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Speaker 2: hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged

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Speaker 2: as the place.

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Speaker 1: As we explore.

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Speaker 2: We have a very unique episode today. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you what we gotta cover. There's some stuff we

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Speaker 2: gotta cover. Okay, I'm gonna introduce my guests in just

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Speaker 2: a minute, but we are going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: the podcast so that we did with Evan Felker, did

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Speaker 2: a whole bear Grease podcast on Evan Felker, And if

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Speaker 2: you're if you're new to the bear Grease Render, which

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Speaker 2: is what this is. This is where we talk about

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Speaker 2: the documentary style bear Grease podcast. We're gonna talk something

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Speaker 2: about Evan Felker and the episode we did with him,

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Speaker 2: which I was it had such a good time doing.

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Speaker 1: That's number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two, we're gonna we are in a historic building

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Speaker 2: right here, a very historic building. I'm not we're gonna

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Speaker 2: go into it pretty quickly here, but we are in

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Speaker 2: the log cabin that was used in Lonesome Dove. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about that. Number three. There's more, yes there, well,

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Speaker 2: there's four.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna introduce you to my good friend Justin House

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Speaker 2: from Deep in the Heart of the Ozarks, Newton County,

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Speaker 2: Newton County, YEP. So we're gonna introduce you to Justin

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Speaker 2: he's never been on the podcast. And then we're gonna

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Speaker 2: introduce you either one and only Marshall Bryant.

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Speaker 1: Marshall is Oh my god. I don't even know where

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Speaker 1: to start.

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Speaker 2: I would if I were introduced to Marshall, I would say, Marshall,

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Speaker 2: tell them what you haven't done. That's where I would start.

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Speaker 2: That's where I started out. But then I've got Bear,

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Speaker 2: John and Josh here, and we're.

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Speaker 1: In New Mexico.

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Speaker 3: We're in New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: We are We're in New Mexico, Black Lake, New Mexico,

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Speaker 2: Black Lake, New Mexico. Yeah, and we've been we're here

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Speaker 2: bear hunting, bear hunting with hounds. We brought our mules

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Speaker 2: all the way from Arkansas and we've been here two days. Well,

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Speaker 2: we've hunted two and a half days and thunderstorms. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had some challenges. I hadn't got a barry yet,

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Speaker 2: got one day left. We just came out here for

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Speaker 2: a quick trip. But it's been incredible. Had some incredible mule.

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Speaker 3: Rides, amazing country, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Count Yeah, it's just incredible country.

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Speaker 1: But Marshall, tell me about what this is. Where are

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Speaker 4: Well, we're on John and Charlotte Kimberland's ranch up here

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Speaker 4: in Black Lake, New Mexico. And I run a ranch

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Speaker 4: that we have this country, and I run a ranch

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Speaker 4: down the road, and we're basically an l hunting operation,

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Speaker 4: milldeer hunting operation and eye line hunt quite a bit,

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Speaker 4: and we're trying to bear hunt.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, just a really historical cool place.

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Speaker 4: Like on Lonesome Dove when they get up to Montana,

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Speaker 4: they come up over the hill with the herd of

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Speaker 4: cattle and there's the cabin on the beautiful lake and stuff.

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Speaker 5: That's the cabin we're in.

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Speaker 1: This is it right here?

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Speaker 5: This is it?

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Speaker 2: So at what part in the movie do they make

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Speaker 2: it to Montana? Like, hell, it's been a while. Me

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Speaker 2: and bear this the other day, I didn't finish it.

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Speaker 5: It's two thirds three quarters away through the movie probably.

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Speaker 1: And so in the movie, there.

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Speaker 2: It's confusing because in the movie they're in Montana, but

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Speaker 2: actually it was shot in New Mexico and.

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Speaker 1: This structure was built for that. Yeah, this was this

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Speaker 1: was a movie prop.

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Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, and then the Kimberlands came in modeled it,

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Speaker 4: so you know, people could come stay here experience the

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Speaker 4: wrench kind of deal, and yeah, it's just an awesome place.

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Speaker 5: Tons of history. This is old, the old hat Creek.

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Speaker 4: Wrench that we're on, Okay, historically and it's just.

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Speaker 1: Just a cool What year was all the Lonesome Dove

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Speaker 1: stuff shot? Y'all know?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty five?

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Speaker 5: I think, Jamie, can you pull that up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I tell you gonna be something I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: Lonesome Dove. Okay, So you know what Del Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: I was with Del Brisbee the other day and you're

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Speaker 2: from from Texas bull Rider, Yeah yeah, and he gave

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Speaker 2: Lonesome Dove. He was he was making fun of my

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Speaker 2: if he's ever been here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's welcome anytime. He's welcoming time.

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Speaker 6: He don't don't invite Dann. He can't come here. He

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Speaker 6: only lives twenty minutes down the road. And it's never

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Speaker 6: invited me over there raising bucking horses, you know, in Texas,

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Speaker 5: Texas, my place in Texas yet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh what year?

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Speaker 7: So shot three?

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Speaker 1: Four?

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Speaker 7: Five years before that? Probably?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you were like what negative what You're born

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Speaker 5: in ninety seven? Crazy? Wow?

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Speaker 1: You were you?

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Speaker 3: You weren't even if you listen to the podcast this week,

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Speaker 3: you know that Clay has a fascination with knowing how old?

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Speaker 7: Yeah I heard that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should ask your buddies that you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't ask your Yeah, Evan Felker didn't think.

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Speaker 1: So you don't know.

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Speaker 4: How old they are, how many cows they got, or

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Speaker 4: how many acres they're on.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well now I know that about the cattle, but like age,

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Speaker 5: I don't how old am I?

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Speaker 1: Well already you already told me.

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Speaker 3: Just a kid, just a pup.

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Speaker 1: Well, Marshall has uh so you. You run this huge ranch.

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Speaker 2: I mean this this is like, this is a big

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Speaker 2: several things.

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Speaker 1: Well, shoot, how should we do this? We got so

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Speaker 1: much good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot that I kind of want to jump

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Speaker 2: thing I've learned about Marshall, once, once you get in there.

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Speaker 5: You're in there.

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Speaker 2: You never come back out. Because he's so entertaining. He's

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Speaker 2: talking about the podcast first. Then we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the podcast first. You're gonna shil horses.

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Speaker 5: I mean, why wouldn't you podcast about the podcast first?

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Speaker 2: So we Uh No, I think it's fitting for us

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Speaker 2: to do the do the Evan Felker thing here because

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Speaker 2: you know, Evan lives in Oklahoma, got a cow ranch there.

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Speaker 2: He's he's raising and training some really good performance horses.

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Speaker 2: He's really trying to he's really trying to make some

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Speaker 2: good horses out there, and I think they are. There's

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Speaker 2: just something about a guy like Evan that is, uh,

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Speaker 2: you expect something different, But by different, I mean you

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Speaker 1: Of be aware of, you know, being well.

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Speaker 2: Known, having this great music, and Evan would just be

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Speaker 2: a guy that would just kind of I mean, he's

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Speaker 5: He'd sit right in this room with us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, humble guy and he uh and been through some

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Speaker 2: hard times and not afraid to talk about it. When

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Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, yeah, he would, and he did.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to just ask you guys, so Bear,

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Speaker 2: Justin and Josh all listen to it. Bear, what stood

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Speaker 2: out to you?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, like you already said it, definitely you

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Speaker 9: just a real humble, down to earth guy. I mean,

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Speaker 9: like he's had a lot of success in the country

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Speaker 9: music world. But I thought it was really cool that

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Speaker 9: he's still breaking horses and it's still like doing all

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Speaker 9: he's not necessarily let it go to his head. But

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Speaker 9: I thought I thought that the podcast was really cool

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Speaker 9: because I listened to The Troubadors quite a bit, and

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Speaker 9: it was pretty interesting to see his protest of songwriting

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Speaker 9: just because it made sense, Like everything you were talking

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I thought it was a really interesting podcast

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's appropriate that this comes out this

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Speaker 1: I love it that I know this. Y'all should think

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Speaker 5: Because talking about that's the first bro.

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Speaker 2: Because Charlie Crockett made a post, it's like maybe specifically

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Speaker 2: Maybe Yeah, I'm not even gonna say any names, and

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Speaker 2: The kids are listening to him, and uh and Gavitt

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Speaker 2: and Charlie Krockett and they got in this little internet

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Speaker 2: spat and Charlie Crockett sent Gavin Adcock a dozen roses

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Speaker 2: on with a dozen roses and says, hey, thanks, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the roses. Sorry that you had to go

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Speaker 2: get a smaller venue because you couldn't sell tickets and

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Speaker 2: we had it just it was like going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: But the whole point of all that is that a

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Speaker 2: guy like Kevin Helker is like he's just kind of unfazed.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of a real deal. Like you would

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Speaker 2: never I don't think Evan's gonna let me down here.

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Speaker 2: You would never hear Evan Felker in that scenario. Like

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Speaker 2: he's just he's who he is. He kind of doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: And uh, but he is not broke country. No, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's even it's even like his music is country,

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Speaker 3: but it's different. Yeah, you know, I think I think

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Speaker 3: you know, Bear was talking about there are people who

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Speaker 3: You know, you get people who write books and that

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Speaker 7: That's the thought I had, you know.

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Speaker 1: So his kids are going to watch him grow up

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Speaker 5: Just happened to be. But I literally lost my best

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it was. It was really interesting to

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Speaker 2: That's funny because he you know, again going back to

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Speaker 5: I catch it if you have to hire me to

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Speaker 5: I mean just the drugs. Dark cattle are expensive, the

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00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 5: darts are expensive, the man powers exposed.

443
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's super dangerous and you gotta be highly skilled.

444
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean to me, that's what comes.

445
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 5: Top Well, and think you've seen the horses we ride.

446
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we show up with some horsepower, you know,

447
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: and go out there and do the deal we gotta do.

448
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 4: And I mean a mediocre horses is ten thousand dollars

449
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: now in the in the in the ranching in rodeo

450
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: world for a good, a good like solid ranch horse.

451
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: You know that you can go do that stuff on

452
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: and not run into problems. But and you look at

453
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: guys like Derek mcgay and stuff that are going out

454
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: there and catching wild cattle on reservation land and public

455
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: land and stuff like that.

456
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 5: I mean, that's one hundred percent pay right there. I

457
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: get to keep them like, that's a sweet trip.

458
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, okay, so we started in on wild

459
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: cattle with you. But if you met somebody in the

460
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: store and they said, young man, what do.

461
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: You do for a living? What would you tell them?

462
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 5: I tell him I'm a massive jack of all trades

463
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: and a master of dun But what what?

464
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: What describe your career path that got you to where

465
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Speaker 2: you're at?

466
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: Just like quickly? I mean you don't.

467
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Speaker 4: I mean I've rodeoed my whole life roped. I fought

468
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: bulls for a long time. Uh. The three things I'm

469
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 4: most passionate about is hounds, picking up brons, and bucking horses.

470
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Speaker 4: And uh, I mean, I don't know what the third

471
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: one would be. Maybe I should have said my top two. Well,

472
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 4: helicopters would be my third one. I love helicopter capture work.

473
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Speaker 1: What are those streets hold on? What were the three.

474
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Speaker 5: Hound, probably hounds, horses, helic copters.

475
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: Hound.

476
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: That sounds like what like my buddy's like three year

477
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: old son is really pumped about.

478
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, hounds, horses, and helicopter.

479
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: That's going to be the name of his memoirs.

480
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: Now, that's that's super interesting. Tell me how now, what

481
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: are you doing with helicopters?

482
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 5: Well, the helicopter deal started.

483
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: You know, I've been gutting all kinds of whitetail hunts,

484
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 4: turkey hunts, bird hunts, duck hunts. I had a bow

485
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 4: fishing guide business for a long time with their boats,

486
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: and uh I was literally on a on a ranch

487
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: one day catching cattle and that helicopter pilot said, hey, man,

488
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: like you you think you you know, you think you'd

489
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: want to catch deer with us, And I instantly I'm

490
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: all in, you know, let's do it. And uh So

491
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: I went on a few catch jobs with a with

492
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: a capture team and man, it's been a pretty cool experience.

493
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 5: So big horn, sheep, mule deer, whitetail deer.

494
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Speaker 1: Who are you working for when you're doing that?

495
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 5: You know? I worked kind of for like three or

496
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 5: four different companies.

497
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: Uh, there's Bob McCoy. He's down in Santa Fe, Texas, and.

498
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: These are these are companies that are like wildlife well

499
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: like so like specialize in capturing and release.

500
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 5: So Bob's like lots of helicopters.

501
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: He flies guys from his own airport offshore to the

502
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: offshore drilling rigs and he halts those guys back and forth.

503
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: And uh, he's got some like MT. Five hundred helicopters

504
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: and stuff that are you know what, what you use

505
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: for capture work. So he gets government capture contracts.

506
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: So okay, that's it. That's what I'm looking for. Government

507
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: capture contract Yeah.

508
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: Like you know, we uh we went and call her

509
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: a bunch of big horn sheep in Washington State and

510
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: uh and just all along the Columbia River.

511
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: There and you were you told he told me he

512
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: was he was mugging big horn sheep. Oh yeah, tell

513
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: us what that means.

514
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

515
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: So basically we would fly around, we'd find big horn

516
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: sheep that fit the profile with the biologists wanted us

517
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: to call, and then we kind of push those sheep

518
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: away to an area where it's just safe for us

519
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: to get out because obviously it's a rough, rough terrain

520
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: and we'd single that sheep out, shoot it with a

521
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 4: net gun, get a net over it, just to kind

522
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: of slow it down and get as close as we can.

523
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 4: Hop out, tie it, take the net off, put the

524
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Speaker 4: collar on.

525
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Speaker 2: We'd get a hair mug, and it means you're just

526
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: just get on there. Yeah, you just man this big

527
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: orn show.

528
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and get you a blood sample, hair sample.

529
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: You measure some different glands and some different measurements, and.

530
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 4: Then we swab them for pneumonia. And basically the callers

531
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: have a big number on them. So if we go

532
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: back and say pneumonia is really affecting you know that

533
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: that specific herd of sheep, then they'll come back in

534
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: there and cull those sheep that come back positive for

535
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: that pnemonia. So basically, grab it, tie it, take the

536
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: net off, do your whole work up on it, let

537
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Speaker 4: it back up.

538
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many times have you done

539
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: work like that?

540
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: I want to say that job we call it, I

541
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: think we call Heed one hundred and fifty big horn

542
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: up there, something like that, and uh, it was one

543
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: hundred and something. Mule deer also on that project. We

544
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: were up there for about a month. We had a

545
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: lot of bad weather days.

546
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: Usually it's just boom boom boom, fifty headed day or more.

547
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: I mean catching white tail and stuff and exotics in Texas,

548
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: you know. I mean that we have one hundred animal days,

549
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 5: you know, and there's guys that do more than that.

550
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 5: You know.

551
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: So helicopter work, yeah, you don't fly helicopters.

552
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: Now you've you've with wildlife and now but you specialize

553
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: in wildlife.

554
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are a wildlife.

555
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Manager that has managed a bunch of different ranches, yes, sir,

556
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: And that's how why you're managing this ranch out here.

557
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: Yes sir, Yes, sir, this is this is too confusing.

558
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: This is gonna have to be a three part past

559
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: year on Marshall because we hadn't even got into the

560
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: Yellowstone thing.

561
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeh, we got We've got a lot of ground to cover, folks.

562
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: Uh okay, but you you did uh wildlife management for

563
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of ranches.

564
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I'd come in.

565
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: Some ranches would just have me come in and something

566
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: as simple as predator trap or call some stuff that

567
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: they needed to get rid of or capture it and

568
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 4: sell it to another ranch or whatever. I'd buy those animals,

569
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 4: mark them up sell them, just like any product, you know.

570
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: And uh so I did a lot of that, so

571
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: all in Texas, Yeah, all in Texas, and some stuff

572
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma too, and uh you know that they'd call

573
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: me in sometimes I'd just go to a high fence

574
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: ranch that was things just weren't working for them. They

575
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: didn't have the right management in place, didn't have the

576
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: animals that they needed to have in that business. There's

577
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: a lot of ranch managers where ranches have these assets,

578
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: these animals, and for some crazy reason, these animals seem

579
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: to leave the ranch in coolers, but the ranch doesn't

580
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: get paid for it, which really cuts into profits. So

581
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: you get a lot of guys that their business is

582
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 4: just not being run properly. And I could come in

583
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: there and figure out what the problem was, figure out

584
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: why they're not making money, kind of get them going

585
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: in the right direction, find them, you know, a little

586
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: bit of clientele, find them the right guy to guide

587
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: and and then just kind of step away from it

588
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: and sell them animals.

589
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, Texas is a wild place.

590
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Texas is a wild place, okay, So, but a lot

591
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: of your career has revolved around wildlife management, Yes, sir.

592
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: So you did outfit you did.

593
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: You've done a lot of outfitting, yes, sir, but you've

594
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: also done like held contract helicopter work, you know which,

595
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: and then managing these ranches, which is what you're doing today.

596
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: That's the reason we know you.

597
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: Yes, sir and uh. And this is hands down the

598
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: best job yet.

599
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's managing this place.

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: The kim Brose, the family that I worked for, Tim

601
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: and Kim easy to remember, but it's it's t k

602
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: landing cattle and they're just the nicest people in the world.

603
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: And just their dream of what's going on here is

604
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: like every outdoorsman's dream.

605
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 5: So it's just it's so cool to work for somebody

606
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: that's like got the same goals in mind. Is like,

607
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: you can't. There's no goal you can come up with

608
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 5: different than theirs that you're gonna like better. Like it's

609
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: just kind of the perfect plan. You know.

610
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: We're starting a horse program, starting a cattle program. It's

611
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: all coming from scratch. This will be the first full

612
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: elk season here for us. It'll be first mill deer

613
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: season here for us. We might be the first people

614
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: running hounds on this place in a decade, you know, And.

615
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: It's just you're not guiding us out here. We we

616
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: just came, we brought some dogs. We've been just hunting

617
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: with you.

618
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, this is just friends having a good time.

619
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: And that's what they're about, you know, Like we're not

620
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: a big commercial hunting operation. You're not going to see

621
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: us trying to sell hunts all the time anything like that.

622
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: Like it's a friend's family business kind of deal. And

623
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, y'all are friends now you come hunt, you know,

624
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: it's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, yeah, and

625
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: uh so it's really cool for like always in the

626
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: hunting industry, for me, it was wake up every morning

627
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: and hustle, hustle, hustle, just to make sure you had

628
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: a trip that week, right, Like there was there was

629
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: weeks bowfishing where you blow the motor in the airboat

630
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: and it's like you'll almost go stand on the corner

631
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: with a cardboard sign trying to sell some bowfishing trips

632
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: to get that.

633
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Would you tell me you you you had one hundred

634
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and fifty six days you got it?

635
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: I did. I had a one year. I did one

636
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty six bow fishing trips in a year.

637
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is.

638
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 5: Now, which is a lot.

639
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: There's so many different different things. Just been here with

640
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: you for a couple of days that I've learned about

641
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: you tell us about working on the set of Yellowstone.

642
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: Uh, Yellowstone was super cool, Like like what did you do?

643
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: What did you do?

644
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: I just kind of had like a wildlife position with

645
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: them where it was cool. I'd get to go scout

646
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: ranches and find like places for scenes for them working

647
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: for locations. This got Dustin Daniels and will Anks. They

648
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: were super cool, and so I did a lot of

649
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: like ranch scouting for them. And they'd be like, Hey,

650
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: we need a river crossing that's this deep, this wide,

651
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: we need thirty horses to be able to cross it.

652
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: We need a sandbank on the other side to slide down.

653
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: And I would go look on these ranches and be

654
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: like what about this spot? You know? Yeah, And it

655
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 5: was just really cool.

656
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 7: Man.

657
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: Before they'd ride horses through pastors or gather cattle, I'd

658
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: go out their horseback and make sure there was no

659
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: like hazards or snakes. You know, a big part of

660
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: what I did there was snake wrangling. Man's crazy. We

661
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: caught a lot of rattlesnakes, a lot of copperheads.

662
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: So when you caught a rattlesnake, yep, it had to

663
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: be by the book of the book.

664
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: We would catch the rattlesnake, we'd put the rattlesnake in

665
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: a good safe that met their requirements, and then we

666
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: would film and stuff, and then we would take that

667
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: snake and put it exactly back where we found it.

668
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: One thing I will say about that whole production, The

669
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: movie business is not for me. I won't be doing

670
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: it again. Way too many people for me. But I

671
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: was blown away by how respectful they were to the

672
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: land and to animals, real stuff. Yeah, they really were, man,

673
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: I mean, and I mean some of the stuff I

674
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: did was stupid.

675
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: You know, Hey, we're gonna use this old building, but

676
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: there's a skunk that lives there. We need to trap

677
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: that skunk. You know, we're put it right back. Yeah,

678
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: it's never been in my rollerdex to go ahead at

679
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: least the skunk, you know what I mean. I gotta

680
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: do what.

681
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: So like you know, and nuisance trapping and stuff, it's

682
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: like you just eliminate it, you know. But I was

683
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: blown away by how much care they actually had on

684
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: that stuff, like, and it was a cool group of people.

685
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: It really was a cool The coolest thing about it,

686
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: I want to say. The crew was three hundred people

687
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: plus every day, like it was insane, and every person

688
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: knew your name. It seemed like every person come over there,

689
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: have coffee with you. I mean even Tim McGraw, Sam Elliott,

690
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 4: faith Hill. I mean they just all just hey, how's

691
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: your morning going. You know, just the kindest people in

692
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: the world. And I never saw an argument Yellowstone eighteen

693
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 4: eighty three, Bass Reeves, Like, I never saw.

694
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 5: It fall apart.

695
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

696
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: It was pretty impressive to see that many people from

697
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: that many different walks of life and that many different

698
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: There was everything you could imagine works there, buddy, Yeah,

699
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: and it was just never a big nothing was ever.

700
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: There was just no big confrontations, no big nothing like.

701
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: It was pretty incredible. Just how grease that wheel was.

702
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean it really went well. So yeah, it was cool.

703
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: I did it for a while and I just got

704
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: burned out. It was seven days a week, fourteen fifteen,

705
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: sixteen hours a day, lots of time just sitting in

706
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: the truck, waiting on the next thing, waiting on the

707
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: next thing, and my add just.

708
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: Runs rampant sitting in the pickup. Man, you tell me

709
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna pay me to catch snakes, I'm gonna go

710
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 5: catch some steaks, you know what I mean.

711
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: I just hated sitting in the truck so much, and

712
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: I hated just waiting. The waiting game just killed me

713
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 4: on it.

714
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 7: Yeah.

715
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: But man, what a unique experience though, And y'all have

716
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: any y'all have. I mean, I'm kind of just like

717
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: we're just like hitting the hits with marshall right.

718
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: The worst part is you don't have time for your friends.

719
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 4: You don't have time for your hounds. You don't have

720
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: time for your horses, you don't have time for your

721
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: change the oil in your truck.

722
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: Like it just consumes your whole life. And my cow.

723
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: Business got rougher. My dogs weren't as good. And that

724
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: was a big part of it for me, was just

725
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: it took all your time.

726
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

727
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: Man, I think that that that is very a very

728
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: niche job. You know, there are a whole lot of

729
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: guys that have a job like that. I had a

730
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: question about, uh oh, how did you get that job?

731
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 5: Just a random phone call. I thought somebody was messing

732
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: with me.

733
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: Some people called me asking me if I could catch

734
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: a rattlesnake and Weatherford and I was like, like I

735
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: do like helicopter capture and stuff, not really snake stuff.

736
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: And then a few days later, my buddy Brandon Beard

737
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 4: Didn't call me, that works for Taylor Shared and he's like, hey, man,

738
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 4: like we need somebody out here to look for snakes,

739
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: like for real, Like you should call this guy back.

740
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 5: And I called him and next day I was there.

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: And it kind of turned into this.

742
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it turned into like helping local house.

743
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you did it for like six months or something.

744
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: No, I did it over a year, over a year,

745
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: about a year and a half, probably maybe a little

746
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 4: longer than that.

747
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 5: It was. We did a few I did a few

748
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 5: episodes of Yellowstone. I wasn't like up in Montana and

749
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 5: all that.

750
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: I just did Texas stuff, but spent a lot of

751
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: time on the Four Sixes, which was really cool.

752
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: I met some cool people out there.

753
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: Joe Leathers caught me picking up chad antlers out there

754
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: one day.

755
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: He just gave me a dirty look. Though I was

756
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: lucky get away with it. But I think I got

757
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 5: like three antlers off the four Sixes, which was a

758
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 5: good find.

759
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, So I got to spend some time

760
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: at the Sixes and stuff and that was cool.

761
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 5: And then his place there in Weatherford.

762
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: I've been around it quite a bit before too, and

763
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, he did major things out there and it

764
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: was cool. And I guess if I did it again,

765
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: I would go work for Locations. I think Locations has

766
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: the coolest job.

767
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: What's that mean?

768
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: So like Locations is like the guy that goes out

769
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: and is it like, hey, we love your place in Arkansas.

770
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: We'd like to use your place in Arkansas for this

771
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 4: scene where this.

772
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 5: Gunfight and this and that and whatever. And it's crazy.

773
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 4: They'll come in there and move everything you own out

774
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: of that house, film there for twenty four hours straight

775
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: and move everything you own back in that house the

776
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: same spot.

777
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 5: You never even touch a cup. It's the craziest thing

778
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: you've ever seen in your life.

779
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: And but those guys they go out find the ranches,

780
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: find the locations, like it's just a cool it's scouting.

781
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: It's like what we like to do, you know, you

782
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: just go scout country. And that's just they had a

783
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: pretty cool gig. They had a pretty cool gig, but

784
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: they also had a ton of headaches, which is why

785
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be doing locations in the movie world.

786
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Wow, man, that's wild, man, that is wild justin bear

787
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: any any any thoughts, questions?

788
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: What okay, there's just like I've got.

789
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: Two other things at least that i want to talk

790
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: to Marshall about. But y'all, you've been around him for

791
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: a couple of days here, anything anything you want to

792
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: ask them about or just what people what.

793
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: Would would what would be interesting?

794
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 9: I'm trying to think because it seems like the whole

795
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 9: time we've been here just there's like never ending.

796
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: The stories never stop with Marshalls. Hey, lot happens when

797
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: you're trying to get in if.

798
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Some dove cop cabin, we would name this episode the

799
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: Stories Never Stopped Marshall bry But since run Lonesome Dove Cabin.

800
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: We guys, if you don't have.

801
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: A bunch of stories, you're not having enough fun. Man,

802
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: I've worked hard. My whole life did not have to

803
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: work hard, you know what I'm saying.

804
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: Well, Uh, Marshall, I had a question about about your

805
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: job here. What kind of what kind of things are

806
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: you doing to like tell me about what kind of

807
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: wildlife you have here? On the ranch. Yeah, and what

808
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: you're doing to to to manage them.

809
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, We've just we've got a really really healthy l herd.

810
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: We got a ton of mule deer. Uh generally we

811
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: have a lot of bears, so we try to kill one.

812
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: It's just we've got a ton of wildlife.

813
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: And kind of my everyday deal is, uh start in

814
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: the morning, and I just kind of the place is

815
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: so big, you just kind of have to pick an

816
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 4: area and say, hey, I'm going to concentrate my next

817
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: four days on this area. I'm gonna get all our

818
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 4: stands and stuff, right, I'm gonna trim trees on that

819
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: section of a road. I'm gonna bring an excavator down

820
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: here and get these big rocks out of the road.

821
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna build a new road from point A to

822
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: point B.

823
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: You know.

824
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: That's another great thing about this job. As the boss

825
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: man comes out and he's like, man, I sure would

826
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: like a road to up there, and it's it's so

827
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: cool because you're like, heck, yeah, go walk me out

828
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: of road. I'm gonna go build a road up there,

829
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: just like I want to build a road up there,

830
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: you know. And then to see him show up and

831
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: use that road, and they're like, oh man, this's worked.

832
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: That's exact road I wanted, you know.

833
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: And that's just that's super rewarding to me that I

834
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: don't have to answer to one hundred people. I don't

835
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: have a bunch of micro management. It's just like, hey man,

836
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: i'd like this, I'd like this, I'd like this, and

837
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: you just kind of go make it happen. He understands

838
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 4: the place is big. He understands you can't just take

839
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 4: a piece of equipment. I mean, the highway washed away today,

840
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: like we might not even be able to make it

841
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: into part of the wrench, you know.

842
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: So he I think that's why we hadn't killed a bear.

843
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: The logistics are tough, like, but I just I pick

844
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: an area. I build roads, a trim trees, you know,

845
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: just all of it. Everyday ranch stuff, you know. Just

846
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 4: it's I guess I have manager on my title, but

847
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: I'm just a ranch hand. I guess you'd say that

848
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: manages wildlife, you know, and God, you know, God, friends

849
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: and family and all that kind of stuff.

850
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean in the in the elk cutting in this

851
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: part of New Mexico is about as good as it gets.

852
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: It's it's ignorant. I mean it's yeah, pretty man.

853
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 4: I'm super pumped for my first full elk season up.

854
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: Here for sure.

855
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

856
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Incredible man.

857
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Now, but really, what you're maybe most passionate about in terms.

858
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: Of hunting is lying hunting one thousand. That's it.

859
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 7: Huh.

860
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have.

861
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: If I could not do anything else the rest of

862
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: my life, I'd get up every morning in light hunt,

863
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: no doubt.

864
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: And so you've got you got a bunch of how

865
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: many dogs you got right now?

866
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 5: I got about ten dogs right now?

867
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

868
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

869
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: And and do you have a line dog right now?

870
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: That's is I mean, do you have one that all

871
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: that that that one is the best dog I've ever had?

872
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Do you have mediocre dog?

873
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 5: I got?

874
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 4: I got two of the best dogs I've ever had

875
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: right now, My red and white dog Dan that y'all

876
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: saw the bob tail, you know, not the short bobtail,

877
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 4: but the medium bob tail. He came from a buddy

878
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: up in Montana. And he is just a jam up

879
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: line dog. I mean, he he'll grind it out, He'll

880
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: take his time. Uh, you know, he's just he's patient.

881
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: He's young, which is just it's cool to have a

882
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: four year old dog that's just on top of his game.

883
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: You know, probably my second best dog is that timber dog,

884
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: which is the red dog.

885
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 5: Oh, Clifford, the bigger red dog.

886
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a bad knee here and there and uh,

887
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: but he's four.

888
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: And he's a phenomenal dog.

889
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: Also, I may have only got the dog because of

890
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: that bad You know that I look back at it

891
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: because that definitely wasn't spoke of first, but phenomenal dog.

892
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: I wouldn't sell him for the world. You know.

893
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: That brings up an interesting question selling line dogs.

894
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Give me a spectrum for how much a good I mean,

895
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: or a great dry ground line dog would go for

896
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: right now in twenty twenty five.

897
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: It's honestly depending on the dog. I mean, you can

898
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: almost name your price.

899
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: I mean these people horses, hounds and mules sell and

900
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: stuff like it's gone crazy.

901
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I mean, And so what's name and your price?

902
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 7: Man?

903
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: I mean, there's you hear.

904
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: Rumors guys paying over one hundred thousand dollars for just

905
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: top notch.

906
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 5: Dry ground line dogs.

907
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: You kidding me? One hundred thousands.

908
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking about You don't have to do anything but

909
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: open the dog box and stay out of his way,

910
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: go down there and get him off the tree.

911
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: Like dogs like that. I mean, if you find a

912
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: dog like that for lesson twenty thirty thousand dollars, you're

913
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 5: doing the deal.

914
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: Like so if somebody gave me a if somebody, if

915
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: I priced a dog like that and somebody gave me,

916
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: you know, hey, man, I'm asking forty thousand for him, like,

917
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: I would not be blown away.

918
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I would go spend that.

919
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you twenty five thousand dollars right now for

920
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: your best dog.

921
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 5: Done.

922
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: No, No, I was kidding. That sounds good to be.

923
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: I wouldn't really sell him, but I just want to

924
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 5: see if you're bluffing a bluffing. But now I know

925
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: how to play cards later.

926
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean my question though, was would

927
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: you sell your dog for twenty five thousand or is

928
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: he worth it?

929
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not worth it, Yeah, I mean.

930
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: He's worth it to me. Yeah, I guess it's the

931
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: best way to say that.

932
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: My thing is, I could sell that dog for twenty

933
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 4: five thousand, but I'd have a hard time replacing him

934
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: for that. Yeah, you know, that's my biggest deal. I

935
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: don't have a half million dollar budget to go blow

936
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: online dogs. You know, I got two really nice dogs.

937
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: I got one that I just plumb lucked out on

938
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: that made a dog, And then I got some really

939
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: nice young dogs coming up. And to me, I like

940
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: watching a young dog progress so much that I would

941
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 4: almost sell my top dog every year if I didn't

942
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: have to breed my Like, that's my thing. Like, I

943
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: want to be in a position where I don't ever

944
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 4: have to buy a dog again.

945
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: You know.

946
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 5: What I always had.

947
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 4: You know, it's like I had line dogs, sold them all,

948
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: took a different job, bought line dogs again, sold them,

949
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 4: got a different job keeping. Yeah, so like I wasn't

950
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 4: able to keep my line going really on line dogs,

951
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: Like I kind of started over like three times. And

952
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: these are hands down some of the better ones I've

953
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: had by far, especially Dan. But yeah, it's just you know,

954
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 4: if a guy's got a bunch of money, he can

955
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 4: have a wicked settle line.

956
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: Think about the thing about a line dog that's different

957
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: than the beard dog, and tell me just if it's right.

958
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: And you two Marshalls, you can you need about to

959
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: come out here and to be successful, you probably need

960
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen dogs to be to be a good

961
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: to catch a sufficient bear hunter.

962
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 8: At least at least because twenty dogs, because well, just

963
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 8: hold on, let me, let me, let me just say

964
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 8: what I'm gonna say.

965
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: To be a to come out here and to be

966
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: a successful line hunter, just assuming that, you know, I mean,

967
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm not calculating the skill of the hunter and knowing

968
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: where to go and being here when it snows. But

969
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: in theory, you could come out here with three or

970
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: four really good line dogs and catch a line sure enough,

971
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: catch lines consistently, especially in wet ground, with three or

972
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: four dogs.

973
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: And so we're going to answer that.

974
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: But the point is that's that's why a line dog

975
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: is worth so much, Because you go by one man,

976
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: you pretty much got pack, I mean, one real good

977
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: wood and with some backup dogs.

978
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 7: If you take one good one and you got three

979
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 7: that'll go with him and just push him, you're good. Yeah,

980
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 7: the bear deal you gotta have. You need to be

981
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 7: putting eight on the ground a lot of dog power,

982
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 7: and then you got to do it again tomorrow and

983
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 7: then eight or ten years to day they're smoked. Yeah,

984
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 7: that's kind of what we've run into.

985
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I and the pads of their feet, their knees,

986
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: their hips.

987
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it takes it out of them up here.

988
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: A lot of people do not think that terrain is

989
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: like this in New Mexico, and it's like both of

990
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: y'all today. It was funny I told you riding around

991
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: with you all at two different times, he said, if

992
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: somebody just dropped me off in a helicopter here blindfolded,

993
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: I would think it was Montana. Yeah, And it was

994
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: funny because thirty minutes later, I ride with your dad

995
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: and he's like, you know what, it's just like the Rockies,

996
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: and it's it's so it's so true, like when you're

997
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 4: up here and it's like beautiful hayfields and a lake

998
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 4: and ducks and geese everywhere, and then you go one

999
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 4: hundred your more yards and it's like, all right, we're

1000
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: in the foothills.

1001
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: There's mill deer. This is cool. And then you go

1002
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: over that hill and you're like, wow, big mountains.

1003
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: That's well, what's our elevation right here? Eighty four hundred feet?

1004
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we're a little over eight thousand just right here.

1005
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1006
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: So I mean you're starting and it feels like we're

1007
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the futa. We're in the valley,

1008
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: we're eighty four hundred feet. Yeah, Josh, here's your answer.

1009
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: Here's your answer. The answer you've been waiting for is

1010
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: that when you turn, when you turn loose the line dog,

1011
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: you're turning him on a track that that line has

1012
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: made maybe the day before, maybe the day before that.

1013
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: And he's most of the work that that dog is doing.

1014
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: He's trailing that line while that line was hunting and moving,

1015
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: and that line didn't even know it's being tracked. And

1016
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: that dog's got to catch up with that line, which

1017
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: could be miles of trailing. And then when the cat

1018
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: actually perceives that he's being chased by a hound, he

1019
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: doesn't really run that far.

1020
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: Once you got him jumped, you're once once that your

1021
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: success mountain's laying on a.

1022
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: Mule deer killed over here with a full belly. And

1023
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: he doesn't know it, but for the last six hours

1024
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: there's been dogs six miles away that have been trailing

1025
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: him through the mountains where he walked last night. When

1026
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: he hears that dog bay, he jumps up and he

1027
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: runs about three hundred yards and those dogs start catching up,

1028
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: catching up to him, and he goes up a tree.

1029
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: A bear is.

1030
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: You might cold trail a bear for a long time

1031
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: before he knows he's being chased. But as soon as

1032
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: he's jumped, as soon as that bear goes, oh there's

1033
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: dogs starts, he turns on the after burners. And he's

1034
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: got more horsepower than your dogs usually and and and

1035
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: your dogs have already cold trailed him, and then they've

1036
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: got to catch him and pressure him enough to go

1037
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: up a tree, and a lot of I mean, sometimes

1038
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: the bear want him go up a tree. That's what

1039
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: we ran into on the first say, just a walking bear,

1040
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: a bear that had no problem with the dogs, just

1041
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: kind of yapping at it.

1042
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 5: Right, I had a problem with it. Covered a lot

1043
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 5: of country to just watch him walk around.

1044
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: How far do you think you rode?

1045
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: I think when you looked at my track or what

1046
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: was it like twenty it was like twenty three miles

1047
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 4: or twenty seven miles or something. So and we'd already

1048
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: traveled what eleven miles as a group, least horseback, you know,

1049
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: And then we kind of had a split deal going on,

1050
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 4: and my good two best dogs went after the walking

1051
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: bear over there, so I had no choice to go.

1052
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I went and went and went, called

1053
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: a neighbor, went through their place, went and went, went,

1054
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 4: called a neighbor, went through their place, went went, went

1055
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: back of a neighborhood, walking down the public road. You know,

1056
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: my horse tied to a gate four miles back. I mean,

1057
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: it's just when a bear goes, a bear goes. Yeah,

1058
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: and it's just.

1059
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: That's why you need a bunch of bear dogs.

1060
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: And not to say I mean a really top notche

1061
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: bear dog would be expensive too, but I think a

1062
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: line dog would be more.

1063
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 4: What does a truck to tree? No questions asked bear

1064
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: dog go for?

1065
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 7: It's a good question.

1066
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 6: One, yeah, weeah no idea, Yeah, general sell bear dogs

1067
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: as a pack or do you buy individual dogs?

1068
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 5: Generally?

1069
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 7: I think it would be I think I would be lying,

1070
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 7: but from what I know or what I've seen, it

1071
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 7: would be as a pack like them guys on the

1072
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 7: East Coast. And I'm sure there's gonna be some that's like, No,

1073
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 7: we would sell one dog, you know, but I think

1074
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 7: it's selled by the pack and it's not anything like

1075
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 7: the price of these line dogs, right, I mean you

1076
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 7: can I think you can go find a gem up

1077
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 7: bear dog for eight ten thousand. Yeah, I mean turn

1078
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 7: them out, look at him at the tree.

1079
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 4: So really, for as many dogs as you got to have,

1080
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: really a set of line dogs and a set of

1081
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 4: bear dogs kind of evens out.

1082
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 5: You're just less dogs, more money.

1083
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just the truth of it is, bear hunting

1084
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: is more dangerous for the dogs.

1085
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 5: Oh bad. So that's why we had and went the

1086
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: extra seventeen miles. Check on her dog.

1087
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty rare for a hound to get killed

1088
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: while you're running a line.

1089
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: I've only lost one ever, and we got on a

1090
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: cliff and went over the rocks.

1091
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: Never I've never had it like a lion killed a dog.

1092
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, all that is just so it's fascinating.

1093
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Bear. Tell us about your mule.

1094
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 9: Well, I've been training slow Trap for the last two months,

1095
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 9: started riding them within the last month. And before I

1096
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 9: even got on them, I think like a month ago

1097
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 9: you asked me if you want to take them to

1098
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 9: New Mexico in one month.

1099
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: I was impressed by the thirty day mule man. I

1100
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 5: was blown away.

1101
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I started working on him pretty hard and

1102
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 9: got him riding. It's like the last two weeks I've

1103
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 9: been doing quite a bit of trail riding with him,

1104
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 9: but we took him out here and just rode him

1105
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 9: around with all the other mules and horses.

1106
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: Oh, they on a wild ride that first day. I

1107
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: mean that's kind of what I was.

1108
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: So you went further than us because you went after

1109
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: your dogs, but we easily went fifteen miles in rough country.

1110
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it was. It was the rougher stuff.

1111
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Was righting on our heels the whole time. And it

1112
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: was also the fastest stuff I've done with him.

1113
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 9: Like I've gotten him to trot, you know, just down

1114
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 9: like a straight stretch, but we were trotting a lot

1115
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 9: more than you know, like with this style of hunting.

1116
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: We were going a lot faster.

1117
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 9: So he was trotting and got yeah yeah, yeah.

1118
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: But he saw the truck and trail yeah, headed home.

1119
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was getting tired there on the first day,

1120
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 9: the last couple of miles, and whenever we came down

1121
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 9: in the valley and you could see the truck on

1122
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 9: the other side and he saw the other mules running,

1123
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 9: I just had to give him the slightest cue and

1124
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 9: he just took off all the way across the well.

1125
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: It was for us.

1126
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of fun bringing that meal out here

1127
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: and just fun for me to see Bear. I mean

1128
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: he was riding that thing in a thirty foot diameter

1129
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: round pen, you know, like.

1130
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, I mean for real.

1131
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I mean just in the last month

1132
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: he's taken it out by itself on solo trips and

1133
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: kind of national forest in Arkansas. Yeah, and uh yeah,

1134
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: but I also didn't really have any doubt that it

1135
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 2: would do good.

1136
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the mule's done so good and Bear's Yeah.

1137
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: Bear got some help from a friend of Justin and

1138
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: I is a guy named Elvis Middleton, who those are

1139
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: mountain mules.

1140
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: Elvis, those are just Ozark mountains.

1141
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 7: Those are mountain mules.

1142
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: Got you, got you Ozark mountain miles. Yeah.

1143
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal trainer at getting them started. And uh

1144
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: we went over there for about really a full day

1145
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: with Elvis.

1146
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, before and I've been restored messaging him quite a bit.

1147
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 9: But yeah, he's shown me a lot of the groundwork

1148
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 9: and just kind of how to go about it. But

1149
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 9: it's been a really interesting process training a mule. I

1150
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 9: was I was kind of just wanting to do it

1151
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 9: at first, just for the experience, but now that I've

1152
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 9: gotten into it, you know, I had like one from

1153
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 9: like start to now using I'm i'm i'm.

1154
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: I think I'm hooked. I think I'm going to get

1155
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: another one. Yeah. Yeah, we're working on one right now.

1156
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yep.

1157
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: So and then Josh, you did great too, man. So

1158
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: Josh is Josh is about as good a meal, about

1159
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: as new a mule rider as slow trap.

1160
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1161
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh, Josh is like a thirty day many Yeah.

1162
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, but you you put on some miles we

1163
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: probably rode.

1164
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1165
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: We rode eight miles today, didn't we ten?

1166
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: We rode ten miles that he tracked us today?

1167
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1168
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that mule did good. It's a big boy

1169
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: to carry around.

1170
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: To carry around them.

1171
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: That's Justin's That's a whole lot of country.

1172
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: On top of a mule right there.

1173
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 3: I want to know, Marshall, what are your feelings about mules.

1174
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 5: I knew y'all, I knew y'all were going to do this.

1175
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 5: They're cool. Mules are cool. I will say that one

1176
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 5: thousand percent, one thousand percent.

1177
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 4: I think they definitely have their place. Like I get it.

1178
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 4: I do get it.

1179
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: Today I rode Betty Bay up our big old boulder,

1180
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 5: you know, and like that's cool. I would no question

1181
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: jump my horse, any of my horses up on that rock.

1182
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1183
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 5: That turning around and coming back off of it would

1184
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: have been near as graceful as they were on that mule.

1185
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 4: So like, I do have a huge respect for mules.

1186
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: And I told you I had a huge respect for

1187
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 4: mules before, just from seeing the things that people do

1188
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: on them. It's just it's you're a cowboy, basically.

1189
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: I think the question is, like, let's talk about how

1190
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 5: the endurance of a horse and a mule that I've

1191
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 5: been hearing about because I don't know, I've covered a

1192
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 5: lot of country about run five mile race. When we

1193
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 5: got back.

1194
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, hey Smurf, we called him old Blue, Oh smurf,

1195
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: dead gum. That is that's the Marshall has an incredible animal.

1196
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that.

1197
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: Horse is part of our horse program here at the

1198
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 4: ranch and tell us about it. He's he's just a

1199
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: five year old blue horse.

1200
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Is he fifteen one fifteen?

1201
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: He's probably fifteen one fifteen to two.

1202
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Betty weighs thirteen hundred pounds though at least Yeah, he's

1203
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: a big style horse. So like Betty bay Weys one

1204
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: thousand and fifties and that's a good sized mule.

1205
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Fourteen three.

1206
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet that horse wears fourteen fifty probably it's

1207
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: out his rump is, yeah, two and a half. And

1208
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 4: he can run, he go, and he's got And that's man.

1209
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm lucky on horses, man, because I mean the bay horse,

1210
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: the black horse, the blue horse, the they're all great horses.

1211
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: And they'll do that right there every day.

1212
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean they you know.

1213
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: And that's another thing, you know, I think a lot

1214
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: of the horses that mule guys compare to our guys.

1215
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: That a lot of guys work all week.

1216
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: Go grab their mule, go coon hunting, go squirrel, go

1217
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: do whatever, and they ride that mule once or twice

1218
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: a week. And I think you know what y'all's mules

1219
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: did on a schedule versus like, if you're gonna do

1220
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: that on a horse, you gotta put a lot of

1221
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: miles on a horse, Like you got to keep that

1222
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: thing tuned up. You know, if I only ride my

1223
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 4: horse once a week, there is no way my horse

1224
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: could have done all that, you know, But you know,

1225
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: you keep them legged up, you keep them in shape,

1226
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: you know, and I do understand it does It is

1227
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: a lot more maintenance. My one horse probably ate more

1228
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 4: hay the last three days than four.

1229
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: Y'all's mules, you know. But you know, when you go

1230
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 5: sports car, you gotta put a lot of gas in it.

1231
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was, It was impressive. Now I

1232
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: can't say I'm not.

1233
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 5: Have a better horse than that. No, Well, if they

1234
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 5: don't kill a line with us, and I'll even let

1235
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 5: him ride a good.

1236
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 3: Horse basically basically, So what I just heard you say

1237
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: is you know how Evan Felker talked about alcohol, like

1238
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: I'll never do it. That's basically what Marshall said about mules.

1239
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: I like, I wouldn't other people, but they're not for me.

1240
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to have a pack mule, just to

1241
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: have a mule, because I do think they're cool. Yeah,

1242
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna have a hard time walking past my

1243
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: horses to ride a mule.

1244
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: Well, and but you're not the average horse guy either, Yeah,

1245
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: I mean you gotta pin with with with what you

1246
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: got going on here at the ranch. I mean you

1247
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: got a pin full of horses that are, yes, sir,

1248
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: top end performance ranch horses. Rodey of horses, cutting horses,

1249
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: raining horse, I mean pretty incredible animals.

1250
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I got my two pickup horses

1251
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: and then my cow horse, and they, I mean.

1252
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 5: There's big, stout, athletic horses.

1253
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: And then the ranch has some really nice horses, and

1254
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: we've started getting some brood mares to raise our own

1255
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: horses and stuff and just kind of barely getting into

1256
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: the horse program here. And yeah, it's just there's nothing

1257
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: better than riding a good horse.

1258
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 5: Man.

1259
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: I grew up riding junkie horses, and it was like

1260
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: it's I didn't really make it, but as soon as

1261
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: I could afford a luxury item, I went and got

1262
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 4: the best horse I could get. And ever since then,

1263
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, my buddy Bobby Hayley always says like life's.

1264
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 5: Too short to ride a crappy horse. I don't know,

1265
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: can you say that on here?

1266
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, life's too short to ride a sorry horse.

1267
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: And he like converted me completely, cause I used to

1268
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: just have a bunch of horses, you know, and he's

1269
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: the one that like fine to me. He was like, dude,

1270
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 4: just get it, get rid of those three and get

1271
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: one so we can actually like go get something done,

1272
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 4: you know, like pull up on something you're proud of,

1273
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: you know. And ever since then, it's like, now I've

1274
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 4: got a I don't know, Ferrari budget, or I got

1275
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: a Ferrari dreams on a Volkswagen budget, I think, is

1276
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 4: what they say.

1277
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: Here you go.

1278
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I'm very blessed to have some awesome

1279
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 5: horses here at the wrench.

1280
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, big news. What's that I bought a mule?

1281
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Josh, is this the last time I have

1282
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 7: to rent out Merle?

1283
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. I'll see how this mule goes.

1284
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: I might be running back to come get Merle.

1285
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 7: It'll get hired.

1286
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, tell tell us about.

1287
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: Your real Well, she's she's a big girl. You've never

1288
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: ritten her yet. I haven't written her yet. I've seen

1289
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: her once.

1290
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 7: Mistake.

1291
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: Let me just say it was a total impulse spy.

1292
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: Well it was your buddy.

1293
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: Yes, it was an impulse spy from a buddy. So

1294
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: I haven't ritten her yet. But she's a big girl.

1295
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 3: She's sixteen hands, so hopefully she'll be stout enough to

1296
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: carry a big boy.

1297
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 4: So I'm a break to your rope ladder. Take with you,

1298
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 4: So you can get on it. Yeah, collapsible bucket, that's

1299
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: what you need. That's gonna be tough.

1300
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: So we got another horseman in our presence, Justin. He's

1301
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: bought two pretty nice roping horses in the last two months.

1302
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: Bought two, sold one, bought two, sold one.

1303
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: Do you keep them in the same field as your mules?

1304
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 7: I do. They're not allowed to be in the same

1305
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 7: field as with my dad and stepmoms because they're in

1306
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 7: the same mentality as Marshall here. They're fire breeding dragons

1307
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 7: to kill somebody. What do you mean mules can't be

1308
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 7: with top end horses.

1309
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: Really, they're afraid to hurt them.

1310
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah for real? Oh yeah, bad deal.

1311
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: Now, Justin, I don't know.

1312
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: This may have been a private conversation we had that

1313
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: you don't want to share it when you said, like

1314
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: your your roping horses, they get hurt easy. You can't

1315
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: hardly ride them out of the pen.

1316
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 7: I mean, but but yeah, for the most part, you're

1317
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 7: not going to take a single horse that you've seen

1318
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 7: it go through the roping and come out here and

1319
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 7: do what we did. Not a chance you agree with that?

1320
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, ninety percent of the horses, those guys are

1321
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: going on. I can't do a quarter of what that

1322
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: blue horse did.

1323
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 7: Yeah. Eighty five percent of them have never done anything

1324
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 7: outside that arena. Yeah, and yeah, that that's a part

1325
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 7: of why I have bought a second horse and sold

1326
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 7: the other one, the first one, which he was fine

1327
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 7: for what he was, but you wouldn't gonna do anything

1328
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 7: with rope stairs on him in that arena. And well,

1329
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 7: I'm no big cowboy, but if I want to go

1330
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 7: do something on one, if I need to go catch

1331
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 7: it here and pasture, if I need to go trail ride,

1332
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 7: I want to go down to Buffalo. Whatever I want

1333
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 7: to do, he wasn't doing it.

1334
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1335
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 7: And anyway, the second purchase, he's a lot nicer horse,

1336
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 7: well rounded horse, more of.

1337
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: A ranch horse.

1338
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you can rope on him and do

1339
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: our stuff, but you also go.

1340
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 7: You can do anything you want to. I wouldn't be

1341
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 7: scared a bit to bring him out here, really, honestly,

1342
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 7: I wouldn't them. Yeah, but he would not be a

1343
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 7: top end cellar. So somebody's want to go head steers. Yeah,

1344
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 7: he's he isn't a finished you know, he is an

1345
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 7: open horse by no means, how old is He's he's

1346
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 7: a nice horse. Nice horse for me.

1347
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 5: And I'm curious to you.

1348
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: I see way more horses that are really nice outside

1349
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: can just go in the arena and dominate. And there's

1350
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 4: so many horses you see do incredible things in the

1351
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: arena that it takes three people load him in the trailer,

1352
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 4: you get him down the alleyway.

1353
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: You know, some of those.

1354
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: Barrel horses you see crazy like you, it's ridiculous, man Like,

1355
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 4: we have bucking horses that handle better than some of

1356
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 4: them in the alleyway. It seems like, I mean them girls,

1357
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 4: they got a halt when they when they come down there.

1358
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 4: You watch some of those high end barrel horses. They'll

1359
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: kill you before the before they run through the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1360
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 4: it make me nervous.

1361
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 5: YEA was doing that, that's uh yeah.

1362
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: My grandpa always said, don't date a barrel racer because

1363
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to deal with her horse.

1364
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 5: The horse is almost impossible. That is a So I

1365
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 5: got me a great girlfriend. It's not a barrel racer.

1366
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, she.

1367
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: Was on that mule today too.

1368
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: She did.

1369
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 5: She rode her mule and we go a lot of

1370
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 5: miles out here on horseback too. She loves it.

1371
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 4: We packed mineral in and do all that.

1372
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 5: She would you a check for Betty Bayer right now

1373
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 5: if she had my check book, no question about it.

1374
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 7: Is it at the house? Can we get it to her?

1375
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: No?

1376
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 5: I keep it down there at Texas place so she

1377
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 5: can't get a hold of it.

1378
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we've we've covered. We've covered quite a

1379
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: bit pretty quick.

1380
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: We have.

1381
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what else do we I mean, we've I

1382
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to Marshall about line hunting, wildlife management,

1383
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: the ranch, his horses. I mean, we hadn't even got

1384
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: into the part of his life when he had How

1385
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: many hog dogs did you have at the same time?

1386
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 4: At one time I had sixty finished hog dogs on

1387
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: the chain, plus puppies, and I had a few females.

1388
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: Were big time into hog hunting in Texas for a while.

1389
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: I was pretty heavy in it, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,

1390
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 5: everything from like legitimately imported dogos, and I was what

1391
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 5: I was doing was taking I was basically taking a

1392
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 5: cata hula and coming up with a dog that was

1393
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 5: a half catahula quarter blue tech quarter dogo. That was

1394
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 5: my poison.

1395
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 4: And they were just really, really rough dogs. I ran

1396
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: all running catchdogs, and I just I had tons of them.

1397
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: I was guiding hunts five six nights a week, and

1398
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: you go through a lot of dogs.

1399
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 5: I mean, just like the bear deal.

1400
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 4: If you're gonna go every day, you gotta have a

1401
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: bunch of them and you wear them out.

1402
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1403
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 4: I mean I probably had seventy five eighty dogs at

1404
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 4: one time, but sixty sure enough.

1405
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 5: Put them on the truck, go catch pigs.

1406
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: Wow, for sure.

1407
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 5: I had six sets of those kennels and then about

1408
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 5: thirty chains.

1409
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: And hey, you take really good care of your dogs.

1410
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 5: I take huge pride and take care of my dogs.

1411
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: Have clean kennels.

1412
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: Your dogs are health They get out of They get

1413
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 5: out of their kennels twice a day every day. Kensey

1414
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 5: helps me with it, and we clean their pins twice

1415
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 5: a day. I mean, these dogs.

1416
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: Makes those pins for you.

1417
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 4: Full set, built those kennls, and he builds awesome dog kennles, y'all,

1418
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: And I know he will just be absolutely a static

1419
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 4: that he gets a shot. So Clay Nucombe, I already

1420
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: gave him some kennels. You're gonna have to divvy up, so.

1421
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 7: He needs two sets.

1422
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: We need we need our and Demingo runs hog dogs

1423
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 4: and stuff. That's why he started building kennels. He's another

1424
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 4: guy from Weatherford, you know. And but yeah, builds all

1425
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 4: some kennel's dog boxes all that stuff.

1426
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, he'll dig that, But.

1427
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1428
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 4: To me, I've gone and looked at some nice dogs

1429
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 4: that I wanted to add to my pack. And sometimes

1430
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: I'll go up to a guy's place and I just

1431
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: look at the place around him, and I know he

1432
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: doesn't take as much pride in his dogs as I do.

1433
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 5: And I have a hard time purchasing a dog from

1434
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 5: somebody like that.

1435
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 4: Like when I show up and there's ten days worth

1436
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: of stuff in there and everything else, it's just to me,

1437
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 4: it's did he get lucky because he's not working hard

1438
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 4: enough to make a good dog. So like, I'd love

1439
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 4: to make every dog I have, but I don't have

1440
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: the genetics here to just raise all my puppies. Like

1441
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 4: there's I mean, if Warner Glenn calls you Thursday and

1442
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: it's like, hey man, I'd love to say you these

1443
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: two six month old puppies, Like I'd tell him yes

1444
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: while I was driving through my gate, I wouldn't even

1445
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: get out to unlock it, you know.

1446
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1447
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 4: Like there's people I'd love to get hounds from and

1448
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 4: and the best ones you can't get. And that's that's

1449
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 4: the hardest part, you know.

1450
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 7: Yea.

1451
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: So when I go over there, like some of these

1452
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: guys got a bunch of money and everything else and

1453
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 4: they got somebody else goes and I'm not gonna say

1454
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: any names, but there's a guy in Texas that lives

1455
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 4: like the dream life man, but he's got guys that

1456
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: take care of his dogs.

1457
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 5: He's got guys that hunt his dogs. He's got guys

1458
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 5: that like, to me, like, where's the fun in that?

1459
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: Just owning? Yeah? Yeah, he just pretty much.

1460
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 5: Can you imagine if I had like Jeffrey over there

1461
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: cleaning my pins out put my dogs in the truck,

1462
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 5: Like y'all wouldn't look at me. It's a hounsman. You're like, oh, dude,

1463
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 5: there's oh Rich Marshall. He's got they're gonna go load

1464
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 5: his wagon checked the air and his pires. You know,

1465
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 5: it's cool. I don't know, disrespect like I wish I would.

1466
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that, yeah, but but.

1467
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 4: I just like I enjoyed my time with those dogs

1468
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: every and if you want a good handle and you

1469
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: want to be able to call them off, and you

1470
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: want to be able to do those things. It's like

1471
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 4: I can tree a lion and take a picture and

1472
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 4: do my deal and look at it and be proud

1473
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 4: of myself, proud of my dogs, and I can whistle

1474
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 4: and walk out of there and I don't even need

1475
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 4: to carry a leash. There's you know, And but that

1476
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 4: comes from spending time with them every single day, no

1477
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 4: matter what rain, snow, sleek, hell, we've.

1478
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 5: Had all of it since you've been here.

1479
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 4: But and I mean, I just I have a huge

1480
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 4: admiration for guys that really take care of their dogs.

1481
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I noticed that right off.

1482
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 7: I really didn't.

1483
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: I did, for sure.

1484
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 5: It's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

1485
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: Maybe so, man, hey, this has been really good. Here

1486
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: we are at the lonesome cabin. We're gonna have to

1487
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: show people on YouTube the outside of the cabin. Well

1488
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, man, they were right here. This is

1489
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: where they shot it.

1490
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

1491
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: So pretty crazy, pretty crazy. Justin uh, what kind of

1492
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: hat you got on there?

1493
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 7: Dog and Hunt SPA Equipment Arkansas Equipment. Any Dog and

1494
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 7: Hunt Spy needs call her hood yet Yep, had to

1495
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 7: give Marshall a long range Guess they don't have them

1496
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 7: New Mexico. You can order the equipment, have to.

1497
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they're they're well known. Yeah, they're going

1498
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: to carry a full line first light.

1499
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 5: Here.

1500
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: See that's what I heard over equipment ARCHI.

1501
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 4: So I can get a long range antenna in one

1502
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,440
Speaker 4: of them best in the same places.

1503
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: That's right.

1504
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:38,480
Speaker 7: Yep.

1505
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: Man, Wow, that's right, that's right.

1506
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 7: To go to Arkansas here, come up here, we'll go talking.

1507
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm in have to ride a mule, yes, yeah, yeah,

1508
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 5: that's the only way to up.

1509
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: You gotta ride.

1510
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, you can ride my big sixteen hand, that's all.

1511
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna make you ride that

1512
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: blue Horse.

1513
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: Hey, I've got to. I got to ride that book.

1514
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 7: You need to.

1515
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 4: You need to ride the little black Horse too. Oh, Taco,

1516
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 4: I'd like to. Taco's a sports car down there.

1517
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, dirt, I probably.

1518
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 4: And it's crazy because you only have to hold the

1519
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: reins with one hand, so you got like a free

1520
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 4: hand to do stuff with, talk on the phone or whatever.

1521
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: Just because they're they're they're that Yeah, they're just they

1522
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: got that kind of handlong.

1523
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we call that that Bobby Bobby Hayin lines,

1524
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 4: my buddy that trains horses.

1525
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 5: We call that the that Bobby Hayline chocolate.

1526
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: He puts that chocolate on him, makes him sweet everybody after.

1527
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: He's the only person I've ever met that literally he can.

1528
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: He'll say, hey, can I see that horse for a minute,

1529
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 4: And he'll get on him and go do his thing

1530
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 4: for thirty forty minutes and he brings that horse over.

1531
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 5: It's worth two thousand more dollars as soon as he

1532
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 5: steps off of it. That's just the way he is.

1533
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 7: Good.

1534
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible.

1535
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: Well, marshall, thanks for having us out here. Man, we've

1536
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: been having an incredible tank.

1537
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 5: Y'all for coming, y'all welcome all anytime.

1538
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: Well anytime really been good.

1539
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 4: I want I want to see Bear come back with

1540
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: that handmade bow. Oh yeah, so you made your own bow,

1541
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 4: your own arrow heads?

1542
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 5: What do you do for the string? You make the string? Yeah,

1543
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 5: you make the string or send you uh huh.

1544
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: We read uh, we read the other I think you

1545
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: should kill it.

1546
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 5: I think she can killer line with it.

1547
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: We read just the other day and some historical archives

1548
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: where they were using twisted bear gut to make a

1549
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: bow string. Have to try that, you know, taking the intestines,

1550
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: drying them out and twisting it.

1551
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 7: Because I've used squirrel gusts.

1552
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 9: That's a bit twisted gut bow strings there.

1553
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: The first thing you need to do is get a bear.

1554
01:13:52,680 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Josh, it's been a tall order this week up. Yeah, Well,

1555
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: keep the wild places wild because

1556
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: That's where the bears live and we don't know how

1557
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: to find it