Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles, well, James McDonald, Regie
Speaker 1: Wright Jr. And Alex to Monso on the Digital soap
Speaker 1: Uch Network, a material witness on an aggregated battery. I
Speaker 1: was a hang gun and um they believe this might
Speaker 1: be in retaliation to her testimony. Good morning, good afternoon,
Speaker 1: good evening. Wherever you might be listening from, you are
Speaker 1: listening to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles. And my
Speaker 1: name is Alex Alonso and I'm here with my two brothers,
Speaker 1: Reggie Right and James McDonald. That's Reggie Wright Jr. Reggie
Speaker 1: Wright Jr. So I want to thank everyone for listening
Speaker 1: to another episode. And first first thing I want to
Speaker 1: do is quick little fact check on a couple of
Speaker 1: things that we talked about last week. When we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Compton Crips. I mentioned head Honcho came
Speaker 1: with another dude, but for whatever reason, I couldn't remember
Speaker 1: the other dude's name, and that was Thomas, very famous
Speaker 1: Compton crip. I don't know why I couldn't remember his name,
Speaker 1: but Mac Thomas actually he got killed in nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 1: so as mac Thomas, head Honcho. Both from the east
Speaker 1: side of l A, moved to Compton, started the Grandees,
Speaker 1: the Compton Crips, and that's what really got the ball rolling.
Speaker 1: Have you ever cross passed with mac Thomas James, I haven't.
Speaker 1: What's his name was Tato? No, No, that's a that's
Speaker 1: another thing. That's another that's another topic that we talked
Speaker 1: about last week. But mac Thomas lived on a hundred
Speaker 1: third and on the east side. Head Honcho lived in
Speaker 1: Watts and they both moved to Compton together and started
Speaker 1: the Grandees. So that was just I couldn't remember. His
Speaker 1: name is slipped my tongue. But he was a young
Speaker 1: swull dude. Uh seen some pictures of him and well known,
Speaker 1: well known Compton crip. In fact, he was there. That
Speaker 1: goes into another fact check. Last week, I also said
Speaker 1: that the first murder was of Fred Garrett December eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy two, and that's it's partially correct. The first gang
Speaker 1: on gang murder was Fred Garrett. Garrett was a brim
Speaker 1: and the crips had killed him. But the very first
Speaker 1: murder that the crips committed was in March of that
Speaker 1: year against a guy named Robert Blue, high school football
Speaker 1: player from l a high at the Palladium March of
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. And in fact, Matt Thomas was president
Speaker 1: UM at that nineteen seventy two Palladium incident, and that's
Speaker 1: what really put the crips on the map. March nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy two, and they stomped Robert Blue out for the
Speaker 1: leather coat. There was no gun play, it was no
Speaker 1: ninth They just beat him up. And that's what made
Speaker 1: all the headlines. A history check on that one because
Speaker 1: right now, and I can't say that's actual, that's the
Speaker 1: actual truth, No, I know that for a fact. March
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. Yeah. In fact, I interviewed two of
Speaker 1: the guys that went to prison for that. Uh, four
Speaker 1: guys went to prison for it. Judson Baycot, west side
Speaker 1: crip of A, Bobby Career, Big Bob the Hawk, west
Speaker 1: side crip of James Cause Cunningham, another west side crip,
Speaker 1: and Ricardo bub Sims. Those four dudes all went to
Speaker 1: prison for that. And I interviewed Judgson Baycott and Bobby Career.
Speaker 1: What you guys can check that out on my channel
Speaker 1: Street TV. I did that interview I think in two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, and Judson Baycott actually says in the interview,
Speaker 1: I never put a hand on Robert Blue, but I
Speaker 1: did thirteen years for that. He went to prison, he
Speaker 1: got out and what he went in seventy two, got
Speaker 1: out in eighty three, so he did eleven years for that.
Speaker 1: Bobby Career got out in seventy nine, so he did
Speaker 1: what seven years? Uh, Ricardo bub Sims got out and
Speaker 1: then he ended up getting killed. And then James cause Cunningham,
Speaker 1: he got out and stayed away, stayed out the way.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even show himself anymore. But I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to interview him, and all the all the o g
Speaker 1: s over there said, will never even get to meet
Speaker 1: this dude. Problem. Nah. So those are the four dudes
Speaker 1: that went to jail for the end, the two guys
Speaker 1: that I interviewed. Judging Bacon and Bobby Careers said that
Speaker 1: a young Johnny Cochrane was in the audience watching the
Speaker 1: trial the whole time. You know. Yeah, this was seventy two,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know his timeline. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't need to become a defense attorney into the early eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then, um, I just wanted to give everyone the
Speaker 1: date on that. Reggie, you brought this up last week
Speaker 1: about Potato Head doing that shooting. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: That happened on April two, and I read the appeal
Speaker 1: that that Paul Gregory Watson filed, and I saw your
Speaker 1: name is all in the appeal as the cop that
Speaker 1: testified about the gang structure and the culture and Compton
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, so that's a quick fact check.
Speaker 1: But all right, Yeah, you know what, there has anyone
Speaker 1: ever got out that was on death row that is
Speaker 1: free now from California. I'm trying to think, Um, we've
Speaker 1: got some people who've got their sentences commuted to life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know nobody getting out from death row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone has actually been released that
Speaker 1: was once on death row in California. No other states
Speaker 1: to happen, but I don't think in California. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into our first topic. Before we get started,
Speaker 1: I wanted to give a shout out to one of
Speaker 1: the home he said, uh, from the neighborhood that they died. Uh.
Speaker 1: His name is Pierre Stephen Rhodes. Stephen Rhodes, Pierre, he
Speaker 1: died this year. He just got out, uh from doing
Speaker 1: about seventeen eighteen years and he died from some health conditions,
Speaker 1: I guess, And so I just wanted to give a
Speaker 1: shout out from that from out from the map area,
Speaker 1: Peter Uh, Stephen Rhodes, Pierre Stephen Rhodes. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 1: I've seen the pictures and then it was shocking to
Speaker 1: me because you know, I ain't seen him in years
Speaker 1: because he was doing fair time and his brother recently
Speaker 1: died four years ago, Michael Michael Rose and Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was from the same thing, but man,
Speaker 1: rest in peace. Sweet Daddy was what we called him
Speaker 1: back in the day. Rest in peace my brother? Was
Speaker 1: he from my part? Yeah? And how old was he?
Speaker 1: Sweet Daddy was a year older than me, So you're
Speaker 1: younger than No, he was older than me. No, he Dwight,
Speaker 1: So know him and Dwight, Sweet Daddy would be fifty
Speaker 1: five right now? Yeah, because he him and Dwight was
Speaker 1: type my best friend still right right, little big shout
Speaker 1: out rest in peace to sweet Daddy. Oh, I got
Speaker 1: something to say Games at Thorns who watched that. I'm
Speaker 1: one of the probably one percent of the population that
Speaker 1: does not watch that show. I hate that ending. Man,
Speaker 1: I hate that ending. But all right, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: something else. But man, best stuff on TV for the
Speaker 1: last ten years, and gonna go out like that, alright. So,
Speaker 1: like we did on last week's episode of these following
Speaker 1: topics are all inspired by people that went online and
Speaker 1: checked out our Instagram page or our Facebook page and
Speaker 1: left comments and questions. So for those who are interested
Speaker 1: in bringing up a topic for us to talk about,
Speaker 1: go visit the Instagram page at Gangster Chronicles and leave
Speaker 1: your comments and questions there and we'll take a look
Speaker 1: at it. So our first topic comes from Actually I
Speaker 1: don't know who it comes from, but someone wanted to
Speaker 1: know does Big Cars cast from Rolling Sixties cript actually
Speaker 1: owned two Pac Masters. Now I don't think he actually
Speaker 1: said he owns the Masters. I think from an interview
Speaker 1: that I listened, he said I'm in possession of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he knocked me and shill out. That's what his bit
Speaker 1: as said. So what he came up to death Row
Speaker 1: confronted you and Sugar, I ain't never seen that man
Speaker 1: before in my life, and you've never been in my possession,
Speaker 1: in my presence any time in my life he's just
Speaker 1: I write, liar outright, liar, just do he makes up
Speaker 1: stuff to make himself seem like he's bigger than what
Speaker 1: he is. I hadn't heard. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: He owns the Bone Thugs and Harmony, the Masters, now
Speaker 1: which there's another line we all know, Ruthless and and
Speaker 1: the Easy and all of them. Well, maybe he got
Speaker 1: you confused with someone else. Did he ever come up
Speaker 1: there and take the Masters from someone and he thought
Speaker 1: it was you? He said, on a hard drive or
Speaker 1: the hard drives? Yeah? Come on, Tupac was recording. Anybody
Speaker 1: know anything about music? Back then? They were all done
Speaker 1: on reels, the big the big reels you know you
Speaker 1: see in the boxes. Nothing was done on hard drive,
Speaker 1: pro tubes and all of that. They didn't have all
Speaker 1: of that that technology. And in in six the brother
Speaker 1: what years he saying this happening? He said he did
Speaker 1: this and I don't know two thousand five, two thousand six,
Speaker 1: when I wouldn't even around you. But he's taking incident,
Speaker 1: uh from this guy named Damon Thomas. Uh where I
Speaker 1: got sued for beating doing the guy he he don't
Speaker 1: even realize he's trying to take the response or take
Speaker 1: the credit of being somebody that got paralyzed. Half his
Speaker 1: body got paralyzed because uh, they saved me, me and
Speaker 1: some of the homies being on him so bad where
Speaker 1: he got paralyzed on the right side and the jury,
Speaker 1: believe him, gave me a hundred six or five thousand
Speaker 1: all judgment? Did that judgment? Mr Thomas? You know Damon.
Speaker 1: Damon was the guy who he's one of the sixties
Speaker 1: was being insecurity. But he now he didn't never get
Speaker 1: paid from us, so he ANID don't need to know
Speaker 1: hundred sixties something down now. But so what this big
Speaker 1: cash actually talking about cast someone? He's just creating things.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he doesn't took about three different incidents
Speaker 1: that I know and try to bawl them all into one.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of outline briefly those three incidents I
Speaker 1: was trying and sorry, but anyway, I gotta judgment on
Speaker 1: one for guy when when the dudes went to jail
Speaker 1: for coming in the studio with Damon Thomas and when
Speaker 1: we dealt went him and when ye was that two
Speaker 1: thousand when I remember left I and Ray j was
Speaker 1: about two thousand one, two thousand two, and so got
Speaker 1: a judgment, y'all look it up. It's a judgment and
Speaker 1: black and white. What we got a judgment. And then
Speaker 1: he said something about he uh knocked me and sug out.
Speaker 1: Come on back in the two thousand's knocked me and
Speaker 1: hug out. Everybody knows we're just him and somebody else.
Speaker 1: And you went through all of these down with the
Speaker 1: studio he's supposed and you knocked out the man. You man,
Speaker 1: this is what he's saying. Some of this is is
Speaker 1: like if you listen to it, you know it's bullshit,
Speaker 1: But then here you haven't. He was my club brother. Uh,
Speaker 1: he came to Chosen Few and two thousand and thirteen.
Speaker 1: But before you tell us about the Chosen Few, I
Speaker 1: want to get the third part of the story. He's merging. Well,
Speaker 1: then he said he took the masters. That's when he
Speaker 1: he said that he took the masters and gave him
Speaker 1: back to a Phoenish Akor, which um like, I said,
Speaker 1: there's no truth to it. She already had the masters.
Speaker 1: That was our agreement if if Mr Kor had any
Speaker 1: problems with us after ninety nine, which we all went
Speaker 1: through a little you know, situation where everything got resolved
Speaker 1: and we started back doing business together. I did three
Speaker 1: albums with her. Uh after that point that you know
Speaker 1: why she was in prison that I did with her
Speaker 1: in her style and so she had any problems with
Speaker 1: I was still wanted something. She would have just stopped
Speaker 1: doing business with us. And that's what I always lasted, Well,
Speaker 1: we were so bad or we did this and did
Speaker 1: this to problem. Why would his mother, who was coming
Speaker 1: to clean up stuff, will go back in the business
Speaker 1: with us when she didn't have to. So have Suld
Speaker 1: ever dealt with cash To my knowledge, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he ever met him. But I stopped dealing with
Speaker 1: you from two thousand two, it's about two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: and then I started back dealing with him briefly from
Speaker 1: two thousand and six to two thousand nine, stopped dealing
Speaker 1: with the nigga again, and then I started back dealing
Speaker 1: with him in two thousand and fourteen two thousand So
Speaker 1: what inspired cast to say any of this? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're telling me, Reggie that this is a complete lie
Speaker 1: everything he's saying because of what we're doing now talking
Speaker 1: about this bitch ass, that's why. And I'm calling you
Speaker 1: a bit digg You posted it all of that. You
Speaker 1: coming coming, nigger coming, I'm easy to find. I ain't
Speaker 1: on the find. Okay, did you and casts have any
Speaker 1: beef pritory? I've never met the man. I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen the man before my life. I never evenknew he
Speaker 1: was until I've seen any more portant YouTube. I'll profit
Speaker 1: you or whatever the line telling this bullshit story that
Speaker 1: he's been that he's been preaching. Well, apparently he's been
Speaker 1: making money off of owning the rights of certain songs
Speaker 1: from what he's saying. Well, like I said, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I know he have y'all seen albums that's been distributed
Speaker 1: by the brother. Then all right, well, James, you actually
Speaker 1: know him from the Motorcycle Club exactly. Uh when we
Speaker 1: first met, he came to the club, was joining the
Speaker 1: club prospect for Chosen Field and uh two thousand and thirteen.
Speaker 1: I mean cool brother to me, cool brother to me.
Speaker 1: Then the club started having problems. Uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: would take a lot of people. He got money, his
Speaker 1: lifestyle is is real nice. He's set up real good,
Speaker 1: he got studio, he got all that. So the way
Speaker 1: he looked and and presented himself is like you know,
Speaker 1: he was really into the music, music business, real tough.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people started saying different ship about
Speaker 1: him and saying this and that, which you say what
Speaker 1: you want to say. I stopped working with him when
Speaker 1: she was going on in the club, and he picking
Speaker 1: chose right then and there, you know, my brotherhood for him,
Speaker 1: the way I felt aboudy it changed. So I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him since, um, let's say two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: And from what I hear, they just he just got
Speaker 1: kicked out the club or left the club, and you know,
Speaker 1: in a in a bad way, uh, which I used
Speaker 1: to tell a brother, you know, you can't trust these clowns.
Speaker 1: And then I started seeing this when Reggie told me
Speaker 1: about this guy saying he came up there and knocked
Speaker 1: him out. I reached out to a couple of months
Speaker 1: casts that used to be in the club to tell
Speaker 1: him to come me. He never called me, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't want to talk about that
Speaker 1: or how did Big j Uh. I know this dude
Speaker 1: that I'm speaking on like that and Shug, but everybody
Speaker 1: in my cub knew, not everybody that I used to
Speaker 1: work with that bro. You know what I'm saying so
Speaker 1: where he coming with that? Then? You know, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him about it because, Okay, his family,
Speaker 1: you're saying you knocked him out, Come on, man, keep
Speaker 1: him one hunting with me? And he never called me.
Speaker 1: He never called me. So I looked him up and
Speaker 1: see all of these things he's saying he's done and doing.
Speaker 1: He's a cloud chaser, tell closer to the tenth degree.
Speaker 1: But it's all good. But I can honestly say I
Speaker 1: never met the man. I've never seen him before in
Speaker 1: my life. I don't know who he is other than
Speaker 1: on YouTube. And he's not a bad cat. He's not
Speaker 1: a bad cat. His personality onto coming across doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like he's one. But he's a liar. He's not a
Speaker 1: bad cat. This brother is a liar or he's a
Speaker 1: lying or is he just just putting ship out there?
Speaker 1: Because on these interviews they make up ships lying, get
Speaker 1: out there and put it out there. It don't have
Speaker 1: to be true. And then people started hitting and liking
Speaker 1: and all that ship and you're around and getting paid
Speaker 1: for it. But I mean, everybody on on YouTube, what
Speaker 1: did Big Ponds say when the stories he's a true factor?
Speaker 1: What did he say he usedid I was saying when
Speaker 1: he was like saying like I'm lying, I'm making a joke.
Speaker 1: He used to say that, And so if that's what
Speaker 1: he is, that's what he's doing, then hes he needs
Speaker 1: to say something like that. But eventually you're gonna mess
Speaker 1: up your reputation if you have a track record of
Speaker 1: telling fabricated stories, and then no one's gonna really want
Speaker 1: to holler at you. And then any opportunities for making
Speaker 1: money or working on projects that are sending to you.
Speaker 1: Let me call and give my brother to say I
Speaker 1: need to talk to Cast and get Cast down here
Speaker 1: on the show and talk and then you know, all right,
Speaker 1: we know what That would be a great idea to
Speaker 1: get Casts to come down here, chop it up and
Speaker 1: explain why he said what he said. Now, if you
Speaker 1: were able to get Cats on the phone through your
Speaker 1: motorcycle brothers, what would you have said to him or
Speaker 1: asked him? I would ask Cash. You know what you
Speaker 1: said about Reggie? You really went to def and not
Speaker 1: redg out. Now you know Red just my family, that's family.
Speaker 1: Uh did you really do that? And if he said yeah,
Speaker 1: he know the deal or whatever, well, Regg wanted to
Speaker 1: meet you because each other me. He ain't never saw
Speaker 1: you a day in his life. Knocked out. I don't
Speaker 1: think that I would have hide about it. I would
Speaker 1: be like, when you talk about that subject, the next subject,
Speaker 1: keep going on that I would have to the losses guy.
Speaker 1: I would have had to knocked him by. But and
Speaker 1: plus you're a law enforcement background. You have no problem
Speaker 1: calling the police to say I just got assaulted by
Speaker 1: this dude. Right, would you do that? That's not in
Speaker 1: my DNA anymore? And yeah, anymore, that's not It's just
Speaker 1: not Unfortunately I haven't been through some things where it's
Speaker 1: not in my DNA. But I do have friends that
Speaker 1: would have. We would have dealt with him now, either
Speaker 1: law enforcement or homies that I just shouted out, what's
Speaker 1: worse of him lying that he put hands on you
Speaker 1: or him actually putting hands on you? What's the difference? Um,
Speaker 1: Because he comes off and he put hands on me,
Speaker 1: then that's that's a straight up fight. I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem would fight or stuff like that. But he's
Speaker 1: telling the world through all these interviews that line. So
Speaker 1: that's what's worth I'm saying. I got in the fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't the toughest thing around. Fortunately, I
Speaker 1: don't ever been in a fight where I lost me
Speaker 1: because I just I've been I've been in law enforcence
Speaker 1: since I've been eighteen. And yeah, you guys always win.
Speaker 1: You guys got the bat time the gun. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the strongest dudes I've ever ran across.
Speaker 1: We still don't talk to this day. Uh nick Bone
Speaker 1: from from from the Living down l a Um. I
Speaker 1: didn't lose that fight. It's just ways we're not doing
Speaker 1: and he's just strong, dude. Well, I might have to
Speaker 1: take up the neck bone. Neckbone knew who you was.
Speaker 1: And he didn't go all the way he was trying to.
Speaker 1: Couldn't take neckbone. He didn't come like big big correct
Speaker 1: Now I know neck bone. Now he's strong to get
Speaker 1: off the car, but I ain't gonna Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just trying to say, you know you're supposed to
Speaker 1: and I love Neckbone. I'm just trying to say, that
Speaker 1: was the strongest brother I ever read across. And I
Speaker 1: mean I was on this. I was choking his brother out.
Speaker 1: He was doing push ups with me on his back
Speaker 1: while I'm trying to get him to comply, all right,
Speaker 1: So does Big Cats have an open invitation to come
Speaker 1: to Gangster Chronicles and to tell his side of the
Speaker 1: story with that, however he want to do it. I
Speaker 1: would love to have him come on the show, so
Speaker 1: I don't know, or outside the studio however he wants
Speaker 1: to do it. Now we're gonna do this legit. I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever anything about what happened. I know probably
Speaker 1: James knows better than I do better and and and
Speaker 1: this is me on everything. I know Reggie and I
Speaker 1: know Cash. I know Cash ain't He's not that come
Speaker 1: out fuck you Nigo. I know he ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: down like that because I've seen the new professional be professional,
Speaker 1: and I know you could be professional. So just as
Speaker 1: as men, you have a situation, and I'm saying, let's
Speaker 1: get in here and let everybody here this situation be resolved.
Speaker 1: And you set a point which I know he's lying,
Speaker 1: but you made a point that he made got me
Speaker 1: misconfused with someone else. I doubt that because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: heard about she'll get knocked out the times we know
Speaker 1: that she'll got knocked out. We know about I was
Speaker 1: just trying to get Cash the benefit of the down
Speaker 1: because he does say with your badass, and he didn't
Speaker 1: he make so he din't know who he is. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is person around there. And then as soon
Speaker 1: as we leave here, I'm gonna get on the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it every last one of my brothers
Speaker 1: to get that brother on the phone and bam, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it and we resolve it right here. Now,
Speaker 1: what were the issues at Chosen Few? Why didn't he last?
Speaker 1: He came in in two thousand thirteen and he was
Speaker 1: out by two thousand sixteen. Yeah, well you have you have?
Speaker 1: How coming is that? Where people only last two or
Speaker 1: three years? It's coming people only last don't even make
Speaker 1: it past probation, you know prospect then, Um, you know
Speaker 1: Chosen Few as a very is. My father's a Chosen Few.
Speaker 1: He was being a Chosen people for thirty eight years now.
Speaker 1: And the history of Chosen Few is is so amazing. Man,
Speaker 1: you just wanted to be a part of it. So
Speaker 1: when I became a Chosen Few and oh seven and
Speaker 1: and just just were hanging around and then decided to
Speaker 1: wear that patch, man, it was lovely. But then the
Speaker 1: politics took him out the game. You can't treat everybody
Speaker 1: as if they was your brothers. Now, you got a
Speaker 1: bunch of men that you know for a month, but
Speaker 1: you seem like you've known him for thirty years, and
Speaker 1: and y'all just just click like that. You know how
Speaker 1: to rise side by side with him, and you know
Speaker 1: you're ready to die for this guy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you're out there and and some motherfucker's
Speaker 1: pull up and tell you you can't come across to
Speaker 1: the state and you're ready to die, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Cash brung that to the club. He was
Speaker 1: ready for that. Aspect of being a chosen few, he
Speaker 1: came with that, but he gave himself up by allowing
Speaker 1: itself to listen to other people in the club. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that it ain't had that much time,
Speaker 1: no more time in the club than he did. And
Speaker 1: and he ran with it. So they gave him a
Speaker 1: chapter and venture, I believe, and I knew it wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna work because he was you can't give everybody, you
Speaker 1: can't look out for everybody, you can't be friend to everybody,
Speaker 1: And it just didn't work. It didn't work. And then
Speaker 1: what we forget. We've been watching Sons of Anarchies and
Speaker 1: all of that, and we believe that's how, you know,
Speaker 1: the motorcycle gang stuff and going down. But believe it
Speaker 1: or not, somebody that on the track playing my club
Speaker 1: just okay, I'm gonna tell you something about your club.
Speaker 1: The guy that was the president of the club, it
Speaker 1: was a competent cop with me. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of exactly called a motorcycle gang club club. I I
Speaker 1: but you know, you know we so there are a
Speaker 1: lot of copies exactly. So I was just trying to say,
Speaker 1: it's good people that's involved in it as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all don't look at copies of good people. I look
Speaker 1: at cops good people. And that was my point. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all look at it as you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about the people out there saying son
Speaker 1: of an archie blood and address what um what was
Speaker 1: the final straw for Kas and the Chosen Few? Well
Speaker 1: cast finally finally seen that that he wasn't gonna get
Speaker 1: his way and do be able to do what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do with his chapter. So, uh, the national
Speaker 1: or whatever, I wasn't there so I can't really too
Speaker 1: much speculate on it. But uh some say they took
Speaker 1: his colors and kicked him out. I heard on the
Speaker 1: interview by him from him saying that he walked away
Speaker 1: from the club and he's forever Hayden the persons that
Speaker 1: did it. So he got he got some personal vendetas
Speaker 1: with some of the people and chosen few, which we
Speaker 1: all do when we leave, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he just wentn't ready for that type of ship
Speaker 1: to to to to you know, he's all in, but
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's he wucking with ain't ain't and he's not
Speaker 1: paying attention to to the people that's really tell don't
Speaker 1: even that, you know. So he wrote, don't just do
Speaker 1: the ain't good, just do they ain't good. So that's
Speaker 1: how me and his friendship went bad. But he didn't
Speaker 1: listen to me. And I've been there way longer than him.
Speaker 1: You remember your last conversation with cass. My last conversation
Speaker 1: was cash. We was at a annual meeting and uh,
Speaker 1: I went to shake his hand and say something joy
Speaker 1: him and the national at the time, me and him
Speaker 1: going through it, and he was telling some of the
Speaker 1: club members. Don't funk with Big j and whoo whoop,
Speaker 1: and don't funk with Mooney, don't funk with him. If
Speaker 1: y'all do, y'all lose your colors. He didn't want to
Speaker 1: shake my hand. Yeah, like he has. He didn't even
Speaker 1: see us, So fucking don You're going about your business
Speaker 1: and you do your thing, and me and him ain't
Speaker 1: spoke sense. All right, Well, Big cast has an open
Speaker 1: invitation to come on the show Gangster Chronicles to tell
Speaker 1: your side of the story whenever you want. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to the next topic. Um. There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of talk here in Lost Angels over the years about
Speaker 1: the relations between blacks and Mexicans, blacks and Browns, blacks
Speaker 1: and Latinos, And for for a long time this wasn't
Speaker 1: even an issue, especially like the seventies, eighties and maybe
Speaker 1: the first part of the nineties, it really wasn't even
Speaker 1: a topic. But I think things started to change as
Speaker 1: the Mexican population started to grow and I started they
Speaker 1: started to be the dominant group. I remember Compton was
Speaker 1: like black in the seventies early eighties. Now you're looking
Speaker 1: at it flipped. You go over and you go to
Speaker 1: Compton Down and the mob neighborhood line, neighborhood lots Port,
Speaker 1: you see all Mexicans. Yeah, they're buying the homes up
Speaker 1: there like like crazy. But can you blame them? I
Speaker 1: can't blame them. No, because Blacks are moving out to
Speaker 1: the Inland Empire. They're going to the Antelope Valley, They're
Speaker 1: going to Lancaster, Rancho Coucamonga and they're moving in, and
Speaker 1: they're moving in and they're taking over those neighborhoods. So
Speaker 1: the question that was posed on our page was what's
Speaker 1: the relationship like when the demographics start to change, especially
Speaker 1: in terms of the gang structure. Were basically the Mexicans
Speaker 1: got the upper hand now and they have demonstrated that
Speaker 1: a few times. Uh one Mexican cab went on the rampage.
Speaker 1: Was you remember that, and he was killing motherfucker's coming
Speaker 1: over the bridge. Yeah, from seven up from and over
Speaker 1: the bridge he was. He was doing his thing, and
Speaker 1: and and the cold thing about that was, you know us,
Speaker 1: as you know, being black, we didn't stick together, and
Speaker 1: we didn't draw together and say fucking let's get this
Speaker 1: motherfuck at my role. Well, they tried, they just couldn't
Speaker 1: find him. He was hiding out stuff. But they eventually
Speaker 1: got him on the police and eventually got he had
Speaker 1: the police. So who was this guy? Since he did
Speaker 1: right now I could text tops and get it was
Speaker 1: this happening. This was two thousand maybe nine men. But
Speaker 1: he was He had Nigga scared for a minute. It
Speaker 1: was maybe the Loss Park dude, though not the mob.
Speaker 1: He he was over there with the Loss Park dudes.
Speaker 1: But but it happens that way. But the problem that
Speaker 1: I always had with the Mexican if I was a
Speaker 1: game member, which I'm not and I never was, I
Speaker 1: would have a problem with him because the we'd be
Speaker 1: cool with them on the streets and all of that,
Speaker 1: but they find out that you cool with them in
Speaker 1: jail are in prison, do you know, they will not
Speaker 1: They will not even talk to you. They wouldn't even
Speaker 1: speak with you, speak to you. That's the same way
Speaker 1: with us in prison. We came. I got that. But
Speaker 1: that's my point is I don't see how we'd be
Speaker 1: cool with them and were not. We y'all be cool
Speaker 1: with them and stuff on the streets and stuff, and
Speaker 1: then y'all can't. And then when they go and you
Speaker 1: know that you know what this high school and school
Speaker 1: would and all of that. They go to the prison,
Speaker 1: they won't even talk to you. Everything is divided on
Speaker 1: racial lines and practice because you have the Mesican mafia
Speaker 1: and Peter I don't care where you're coming from. They
Speaker 1: have rules and regulations. Yeah, you're not going to break those,
Speaker 1: just like the b G Evson and the Yeah, they
Speaker 1: pretty much was running when I yeah, when I was
Speaker 1: in prison in the eighties, when I was in prison
Speaker 1: and eighty, they were pretty much dominating there. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of b gfs there. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of that. To follow the rules too. We had our
Speaker 1: section that we had to kick it on and the
Speaker 1: mesticans and whites had theirs. So it wasn't no mingling
Speaker 1: because just like that, something can break out. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Blacks for blacks. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: On the streets we had the seven ohs was was
Speaker 1: loving us on the streets. The CB seventies was family.
Speaker 1: There were black members of CV seven partying and drinking
Speaker 1: the whole nine. Marcus Nunn was was they would do
Speaker 1: anything for him. I bet China. I think China Dog
Speaker 1: actually has a CV seventy tattoo. He knew it. He
Speaker 1: speaks one of them, and he's the lottest Park piroule.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So as as time went time passage, should
Speaker 1: I say, now, everything started falling apart all of all
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods that had the Mexicans in between, like the Largos,
Speaker 1: like the uh T Flats the seventies, they was they
Speaker 1: was by bloods and and someone was by the crypts
Speaker 1: and what's cool with him? But then here you have
Speaker 1: a situation where a Mexican get robbed or the Mexicans
Speaker 1: robbed some some cats and didn't bring their ship back.
Speaker 1: So relationships started to fade. And once that's starting to fade,
Speaker 1: and nobody really working with each other nowadays. Now, the
Speaker 1: first large scale black brown conflict in Compton that I
Speaker 1: remember was between the Tortilla Flats and the Fruittown Piroules.
Speaker 1: That started, and when when they broke out, all hell
Speaker 1: broke out. Because they know each other, they used to,
Speaker 1: they wunk with each other for many years. I know
Speaker 1: your advertise, I know where you live, I know who's
Speaker 1: selling the drugs. I know who got this, I know
Speaker 1: who got that. So both sides was basically a no
Speaker 1: win battle and they can snatch and grab at any time. Well,
Speaker 1: I can tell you one that was bigger, and this
Speaker 1: was some seven. Those they had different sets of seven.
Speaker 1: Those they had the tiny logs, the Chicos, which everybody
Speaker 1: where I grew up tiny logs where by where we
Speaker 1: grew up at my grandmother Chicos. But anyway, it was
Speaker 1: just dude in Ray from from Spook toown what claims
Speaker 1: a Casia block. Okay, you talk about the CVS over there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they killed his brother. Uh g Ray
Speaker 1: it was his name, and I swear he used to
Speaker 1: kill a Mexican in a week. You're talking about Pooh,
Speaker 1: Is that Pool's brother? Because Pool had a brother two
Speaker 1: is from a Casia block, Loonie Pool, and he had
Speaker 1: a brother that was killed by the Casa block. Ray
Speaker 1: was the brother that that that let them have it
Speaker 1: for the whole time. I was a cop. I mean
Speaker 1: at least once twice. Yeah, yeah, you talking nineties the
Speaker 1: nineties when this one happened. Um, but g Ray let
Speaker 1: him have it there every day and that was major.
Speaker 1: I mean he used to tear him up and you know,
Speaker 1: they go shoot his mama house up or something like that.
Speaker 1: But d Ray didn't get get killed for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still alive. But but that conflict right now,
Speaker 1: it's still going on right now between the Casia block
Speaker 1: and TV. It's actually a Casia that's the first one,
Speaker 1: Spook Town and farm them three hoods are going at
Speaker 1: it with TV seventy on that side of competent. I
Speaker 1: forget they're not the Ticoss, the Ticos, the tiny loads
Speaker 1: and another setups seven those I don't know, I need
Speaker 1: Tim Brennan. Here's here's what a lot of people want
Speaker 1: to know. Is is it just gang ship causing this
Speaker 1: conflict or is it really racial and eftic animosity driving it? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gang ship gang mentality period, and then you got
Speaker 1: drugs involved. Then you got territory involved. Back in the days,
Speaker 1: all the Compton was was our ship. And the Mexicans
Speaker 1: did they They didn't come out and just hang on
Speaker 1: the blocking was you know, running the streets like doing
Speaker 1: it like we was doing it because they weren't there.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot of numbers that and walk
Speaker 1: in the hood school they had numbers they went school.
Speaker 1: Because half those competing videos that exist now weren't even
Speaker 1: out fifteen years ago. They got like thirty different cvs. Me.
Speaker 1: They're growing. I mean, they just just I remember the
Speaker 1: white boy that we grew up with. Uh that that
Speaker 1: I don't know, Wiggly and claimed. But that was the
Speaker 1: first dude that I knew. They got killed in that
Speaker 1: gang stuff. I guess I wasn't about to field grade.
Speaker 1: You remember white Wigglyn and he got killed over there
Speaker 1: on Pine Street. Um, on the other side of the pie.
Speaker 1: I remember he went to the house party and got killed. Uh,
Speaker 1: that was the first time I heard of you know,
Speaker 1: the Mexican Games and and and all of that ship man.
Speaker 1: So they've been around now, the Mexicans fighting for the
Speaker 1: territory because they controlled the A. Yeah, they controlled the
Speaker 1: A and and and and and the Nico game. So
Speaker 1: a lot of things come to play with with with
Speaker 1: all that, and it ain't gonna stop because to some
Speaker 1: of us, it's like a job. To some of them
Speaker 1: is like a job. We ain't got nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: We get high. What's the first thing you do when
Speaker 1: you get high and you loaded, Man, let's go go
Speaker 1: ready on these fools, let's go, let's go smash some heads.
Speaker 1: And then then you it just it just ain't gonna stop,
Speaker 1: just ain't gonna stop, and it's too much damaged goods
Speaker 1: and then just say, okay, this ship over, were all good? Well,
Speaker 1: the tree, the Fruit Town parous, and the Tortilla Flats
Speaker 1: aren't really going at it like they used to go.
Speaker 1: Calmed down. Yeah, that's few years. It's just a lot
Speaker 1: of years. A lot of people are going a lot
Speaker 1: of people have moved up by the Fruit Town, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are doing penitentiary time. And and also
Speaker 1: with the teeth flash, a lot of those cats is
Speaker 1: doing life in prison. So let's say they took their
Speaker 1: beef to the penitentiary. Are the ones that said fuck
Speaker 1: it and got away, moved on up out of there.
Speaker 1: And that's how it was able to aside to what
Speaker 1: it is now. It's not that much. But if you
Speaker 1: run into each other and you see each other, they fight,
Speaker 1: they go at it. And how do you feel that
Speaker 1: maybe in twenty years confidence gonna be like five percent black.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know, the bad thing crazy? You see it.
Speaker 1: It's just Compton is almost all Americans right now. You
Speaker 1: go to Compton and and and as soon as it's
Speaker 1: just nighttime, you see they got their vendom machines on
Speaker 1: damn every they got from taco trucks, the fruits or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're doing their thing on my block along was all
Speaker 1: black on our street. Now that we're selling our home
Speaker 1: in Compton, it's only two black families that are still
Speaker 1: there and the and the people that are gonna buy
Speaker 1: your house are probably Lastino, Mexican or Central America. Guess
Speaker 1: what the council and Compton is Mexican most of all
Speaker 1: the politicians and black. And that's the crazy thing about
Speaker 1: the council. I think if they have one Mexican and
Speaker 1: he was just appointed, he wouldn't even vote it in.
Speaker 1: Well that'll change over time, but eventually because would now
Speaker 1: and then went out of Mexican mayor and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But well, I think it's important to note that a
Speaker 1: lot of people think it's just black people in Mexican
Speaker 1: people hate each other in l A. But that ain't
Speaker 1: the case. It's just you got certain hood wars going on.
Speaker 1: A lot of neighbors were cool, Oh yeah, we all
Speaker 1: grew up like we grew together. They had a problem
Speaker 1: over one one area. We had to look that up though.
Speaker 1: Where with the c where they were telling them they
Speaker 1: had to move out. They had to get out, They
Speaker 1: had to get out. They were threatened there, and they're
Speaker 1: threatened all the pirus over there and their families and
Speaker 1: was telling the black families they had to move out
Speaker 1: of the area. And that went on about three, three
Speaker 1: or five years ago. It was major over there. This
Speaker 1: has been a digital so much network production