1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles, well, James McDonald, Regie 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Wright Jr. And Alex to Monso on the Digital soap 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Uch Network, a material witness on an aggregated battery. I 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: was a hang gun and um they believe this might 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: be in retaliation to her testimony. Good morning, good afternoon, 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: good evening. Wherever you might be listening from, you are 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: listening to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles. And my 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: name is Alex Alonso and I'm here with my two brothers, 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Reggie Right and James McDonald. That's Reggie Wright Jr. Reggie 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Wright Jr. So I want to thank everyone for listening 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: to another episode. And first first thing I want to 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: do is quick little fact check on a couple of 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: things that we talked about last week. When we were 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: talking about the Compton Crips. I mentioned head Honcho came 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: with another dude, but for whatever reason, I couldn't remember 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the other dude's name, and that was Thomas, very famous 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Compton crip. I don't know why I couldn't remember his name, 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: but Mac Thomas actually he got killed in nineteen seventy eight, 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: so as mac Thomas, head Honcho. Both from the east 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: side of l A, moved to Compton, started the Grandees, 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: the Compton Crips, and that's what really got the ball rolling. 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Have you ever cross passed with mac Thomas James, I haven't. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: What's his name was Tato? No, No, that's a that's 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: another thing. That's another that's another topic that we talked 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: about last week. But mac Thomas lived on a hundred 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: third and on the east side. Head Honcho lived in 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Watts and they both moved to Compton together and started 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the Grandees. So that was just I couldn't remember. His 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: name is slipped my tongue. But he was a young 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: swull dude. Uh seen some pictures of him and well known, 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: well known Compton crip. In fact, he was there. That 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: goes into another fact check. Last week, I also said 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: that the first murder was of Fred Garrett December eighteen 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: seventy two, and that's it's partially correct. The first gang 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: on gang murder was Fred Garrett. Garrett was a brim 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: and the crips had killed him. But the very first 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: murder that the crips committed was in March of that 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: year against a guy named Robert Blue, high school football 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: player from l a high at the Palladium March of 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. And in fact, Matt Thomas was president 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: UM at that nineteen seventy two Palladium incident, and that's 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: what really put the crips on the map. March nineteen 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: seventy two, and they stomped Robert Blue out for the 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: leather coat. There was no gun play, it was no 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: ninth They just beat him up. And that's what made 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: all the headlines. A history check on that one because 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: right now, and I can't say that's actual, that's the 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: actual truth, No, I know that for a fact. March 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. Yeah. In fact, I interviewed two of 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: the guys that went to prison for that. Uh, four 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: guys went to prison for it. Judson Baycot, west side 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: crip of A, Bobby Career, Big Bob the Hawk, west 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: side crip of James Cause Cunningham, another west side crip, 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and Ricardo bub Sims. Those four dudes all went to 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: prison for that. And I interviewed Judgson Baycott and Bobby Career. 56 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: What you guys can check that out on my channel 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Street TV. I did that interview I think in two 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, and Judson Baycott actually says in the interview, 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: I never put a hand on Robert Blue, but I 60 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: did thirteen years for that. He went to prison, he 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: got out and what he went in seventy two, got 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: out in eighty three, so he did eleven years for that. 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Career got out in seventy nine, so he did 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: what seven years? Uh, Ricardo bub Sims got out and 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: then he ended up getting killed. And then James cause Cunningham, 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: he got out and stayed away, stayed out the way. 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't even show himself anymore. But I've always wanted 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: to interview him, and all the all the o g 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: s over there said, will never even get to meet 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: this dude. Problem. Nah. So those are the four dudes 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: that went to jail for the end, the two guys 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: that I interviewed. Judging Bacon and Bobby Careers said that 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: a young Johnny Cochrane was in the audience watching the 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: trial the whole time. You know. Yeah, this was seventy two, 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know his timeline. Yeah, he 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: didn't need to become a defense attorney into the early eighties. Yeah, 77 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: and then, um, I just wanted to give everyone the 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: date on that. Reggie, you brought this up last week 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: about Potato Head doing that shooting. I looked it up. 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: That happened on April two, and I read the appeal 81 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: that that Paul Gregory Watson filed, and I saw your 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: name is all in the appeal as the cop that 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: testified about the gang structure and the culture and Compton 84 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, so that's a quick fact check. 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: But all right, Yeah, you know what, there has anyone 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: ever got out that was on death row that is 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: free now from California. I'm trying to think, Um, we've 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: got some people who've got their sentences commuted to life. Yeah, 89 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know nobody getting out from death row. Yeah, 90 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone has actually been released that 91 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: was once on death row in California. No other states 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: to happen, but I don't think in California. All right, 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: let's get into our first topic. Before we get started, 94 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to give a shout out to one of 95 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: the home he said, uh, from the neighborhood that they died. Uh. 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: His name is Pierre Stephen Rhodes. Stephen Rhodes, Pierre, he 97 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: died this year. He just got out, uh from doing 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: about seventeen eighteen years and he died from some health conditions, 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: I guess, And so I just wanted to give a 100 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: shout out from that from out from the map area, 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: Peter Uh, Stephen Rhodes, Pierre Stephen Rhodes. Yeah, I see that. 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: I've seen the pictures and then it was shocking to 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: me because you know, I ain't seen him in years 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: because he was doing fair time and his brother recently 105 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: died four years ago, Michael Michael Rose and Uh, I 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: don't know if it was from the same thing, but man, 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: rest in peace. Sweet Daddy was what we called him 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: back in the day. Rest in peace my brother? Was 109 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: he from my part? Yeah? And how old was he? 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Sweet Daddy was a year older than me, So you're 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: younger than No, he was older than me. No, he Dwight, 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: So know him and Dwight, Sweet Daddy would be fifty 113 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: five right now? Yeah, because he him and Dwight was 114 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: type my best friend still right right, little big shout 115 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: out rest in peace to sweet Daddy. Oh, I got 116 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: something to say Games at Thorns who watched that. I'm 117 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: one of the probably one percent of the population that 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: does not watch that show. I hate that ending. Man, 119 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I hate that ending. But all right, we'll talk about 120 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: something else. But man, best stuff on TV for the 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: last ten years, and gonna go out like that, alright. So, 122 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: like we did on last week's episode of these following 123 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: topics are all inspired by people that went online and 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: checked out our Instagram page or our Facebook page and 125 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: left comments and questions. So for those who are interested 126 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: in bringing up a topic for us to talk about, 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: go visit the Instagram page at Gangster Chronicles and leave 128 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: your comments and questions there and we'll take a look 129 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: at it. So our first topic comes from Actually I 130 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: don't know who it comes from, but someone wanted to 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: know does Big Cars cast from Rolling Sixties cript actually 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: owned two Pac Masters. Now I don't think he actually 133 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: said he owns the Masters. I think from an interview 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: that I listened, he said I'm in possession of them. Yeah, 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: he knocked me and shill out. That's what his bit 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: as said. So what he came up to death Row 137 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: confronted you and Sugar, I ain't never seen that man 138 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: before in my life, and you've never been in my possession, 139 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: in my presence any time in my life he's just 140 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: I write, liar outright, liar, just do he makes up 141 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: stuff to make himself seem like he's bigger than what 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: he is. I hadn't heard. What are you talking about? 143 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: He owns the Bone Thugs and Harmony, the Masters, now 144 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: which there's another line we all know, Ruthless and and 145 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the Easy and all of them. Well, maybe he got 146 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: you confused with someone else. Did he ever come up 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: there and take the Masters from someone and he thought 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: it was you? He said, on a hard drive or 149 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: the hard drives? Yeah? Come on, Tupac was recording. Anybody 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: know anything about music? Back then? They were all done 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: on reels, the big the big reels you know you 152 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: see in the boxes. Nothing was done on hard drive, 153 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: pro tubes and all of that. They didn't have all 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: of that that technology. And in in six the brother 155 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: what years he saying this happening? He said he did 156 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: this and I don't know two thousand five, two thousand six, 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: when I wouldn't even around you. But he's taking incident, 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: uh from this guy named Damon Thomas. Uh where I 159 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: got sued for beating doing the guy he he don't 160 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: even realize he's trying to take the response or take 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: the credit of being somebody that got paralyzed. Half his 162 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: body got paralyzed because uh, they saved me, me and 163 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: some of the homies being on him so bad where 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: he got paralyzed on the right side and the jury, 165 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: believe him, gave me a hundred six or five thousand 166 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: all judgment? Did that judgment? Mr Thomas? You know Damon. 167 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Damon was the guy who he's one of the sixties 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: was being insecurity. But he now he didn't never get 169 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: paid from us, so he ANID don't need to know 170 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: hundred sixties something down now. But so what this big 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: cash actually talking about cast someone? He's just creating things. 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, he doesn't took about three different incidents 173 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: that I know and try to bawl them all into one. 174 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: Can you kind of outline briefly those three incidents I 175 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: was trying and sorry, but anyway, I gotta judgment on 176 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: one for guy when when the dudes went to jail 177 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: for coming in the studio with Damon Thomas and when 178 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: we dealt went him and when ye was that two 179 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: thousand when I remember left I and Ray j was 180 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: about two thousand one, two thousand two, and so got 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: a judgment, y'all look it up. It's a judgment and 182 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: black and white. What we got a judgment. And then 183 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: he said something about he uh knocked me and sug out. 184 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: Come on back in the two thousand's knocked me and 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: hug out. Everybody knows we're just him and somebody else. 186 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: And you went through all of these down with the 187 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: studio he's supposed and you knocked out the man. You man, 188 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: this is what he's saying. Some of this is is 189 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: like if you listen to it, you know it's bullshit, 190 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: But then here you haven't. He was my club brother. Uh, 191 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,119 Speaker 1: he came to Chosen Few and two thousand and thirteen. 192 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: But before you tell us about the Chosen Few, I 193 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: want to get the third part of the story. He's merging. Well, 194 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 1: then he said he took the masters. That's when he 195 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: he said that he took the masters and gave him 196 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: back to a Phoenish Akor, which um like, I said, 197 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: there's no truth to it. She already had the masters. 198 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: That was our agreement if if Mr Kor had any 199 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: problems with us after ninety nine, which we all went 200 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: through a little you know, situation where everything got resolved 201 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and we started back doing business together. I did three 202 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: albums with her. Uh after that point that you know 203 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: why she was in prison that I did with her 204 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: in her style and so she had any problems with 205 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: I was still wanted something. She would have just stopped 206 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: doing business with us. And that's what I always lasted, Well, 207 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: we were so bad or we did this and did 208 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: this to problem. Why would his mother, who was coming 209 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: to clean up stuff, will go back in the business 210 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: with us when she didn't have to. So have Suld 211 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: ever dealt with cash To my knowledge, I don't know 212 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: if he ever met him. But I stopped dealing with 213 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: you from two thousand two, it's about two thousand and six, 214 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: and then I started back dealing with him briefly from 215 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and six to two thousand nine, stopped dealing 216 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: with the nigga again, and then I started back dealing 217 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: with him in two thousand and fourteen two thousand So 218 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: what inspired cast to say any of this? I mean, 219 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: you're telling me, Reggie that this is a complete lie 220 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: everything he's saying because of what we're doing now talking 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: about this bitch ass, that's why. And I'm calling you 222 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: a bit digg You posted it all of that. You 223 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: coming coming, nigger coming, I'm easy to find. I ain't 224 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: on the find. Okay, did you and casts have any 225 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: beef pritory? I've never met the man. I ain't never 226 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: seen the man before my life. I never evenknew he 227 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: was until I've seen any more portant YouTube. I'll profit 228 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: you or whatever the line telling this bullshit story that 229 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: he's been that he's been preaching. Well, apparently he's been 230 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: making money off of owning the rights of certain songs 231 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: from what he's saying. Well, like I said, I don't know, 232 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: I know he have y'all seen albums that's been distributed 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: by the brother. Then all right, well, James, you actually 234 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: know him from the Motorcycle Club exactly. Uh when we 235 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: first met, he came to the club, was joining the 236 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: club prospect for Chosen Field and uh two thousand and thirteen. 237 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean cool brother to me, cool brother to me. 238 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: Then the club started having problems. Uh, you know, he 239 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: would take a lot of people. He got money, his 240 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: lifestyle is is real nice. He's set up real good, 241 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: he got studio, he got all that. So the way 242 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: he looked and and presented himself is like you know, 243 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: he was really into the music, music business, real tough. 244 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: But a lot of people started saying different ship about 245 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: him and saying this and that, which you say what 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: you want to say. I stopped working with him when 247 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: she was going on in the club, and he picking 248 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: chose right then and there, you know, my brotherhood for him, 249 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: the way I felt aboudy it changed. So I haven't 250 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: seen him since, um, let's say two thousand and sixteen. 251 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: And from what I hear, they just he just got 252 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: kicked out the club or left the club, and you know, 253 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: in a in a bad way, uh, which I used 254 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: to tell a brother, you know, you can't trust these clowns. 255 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: And then I started seeing this when Reggie told me 256 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: about this guy saying he came up there and knocked 257 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: him out. I reached out to a couple of months 258 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: casts that used to be in the club to tell 259 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: him to come me. He never called me, so I 260 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't want to talk about that 261 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: or how did Big j Uh. I know this dude 262 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: that I'm speaking on like that and Shug, but everybody 263 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: in my cub knew, not everybody that I used to 264 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: work with that bro. You know what I'm saying so 265 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: where he coming with that? Then? You know, I really 266 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him about it because, Okay, his family, 267 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: you're saying you knocked him out, Come on, man, keep 268 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: him one hunting with me? And he never called me. 269 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: He never called me. So I looked him up and 270 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: see all of these things he's saying he's done and doing. 271 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: He's a cloud chaser, tell closer to the tenth degree. 272 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: But it's all good. But I can honestly say I 273 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: never met the man. I've never seen him before in 274 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: my life. I don't know who he is other than 275 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And he's not a bad cat. He's not 276 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: a bad cat. His personality onto coming across doesn't seem 277 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: like he's one. But he's a liar. He's not a 278 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: bad cat. This brother is a liar or he's a 279 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: lying or is he just just putting ship out there? 280 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Because on these interviews they make up ships lying, get 281 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: out there and put it out there. It don't have 282 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to be true. And then people started hitting and liking 283 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: and all that ship and you're around and getting paid 284 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: for it. But I mean, everybody on on YouTube, what 285 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: did Big Ponds say when the stories he's a true factor? 286 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: What did he say he usedid I was saying when 287 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: he was like saying like I'm lying, I'm making a joke. 288 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: He used to say that, And so if that's what 289 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: he is, that's what he's doing, then hes he needs 290 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to say something like that. But eventually you're gonna mess 291 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: up your reputation if you have a track record of 292 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: telling fabricated stories, and then no one's gonna really want 293 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: to holler at you. And then any opportunities for making 294 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: money or working on projects that are sending to you. 295 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: Let me call and give my brother to say I 296 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: need to talk to Cast and get Cast down here 297 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: on the show and talk and then you know, all right, 298 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: we know what That would be a great idea to 299 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: get Casts to come down here, chop it up and 300 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: explain why he said what he said. Now, if you 301 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: were able to get Cats on the phone through your 302 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: motorcycle brothers, what would you have said to him or 303 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: asked him? I would ask Cash. You know what you 304 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: said about Reggie? You really went to def and not 305 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: redg out. Now you know Red just my family, that's family. 306 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: Uh did you really do that? And if he said yeah, 307 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: he know the deal or whatever, well, Regg wanted to 308 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: meet you because each other me. He ain't never saw 309 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: you a day in his life. Knocked out. I don't 310 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: think that I would have hide about it. I would 311 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: be like, when you talk about that subject, the next subject, 312 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: keep going on that I would have to the losses guy. 313 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: I would have had to knocked him by. But and 314 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: plus you're a law enforcement background. You have no problem 315 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: calling the police to say I just got assaulted by 316 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: this dude. Right, would you do that? That's not in 317 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: my DNA anymore? And yeah, anymore, that's not It's just 318 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: not Unfortunately I haven't been through some things where it's 319 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: not in my DNA. But I do have friends that 320 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: would have. We would have dealt with him now, either 321 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: law enforcement or homies that I just shouted out, what's 322 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: worse of him lying that he put hands on you 323 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: or him actually putting hands on you? What's the difference? Um, 324 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Because he comes off and he put hands on me, 325 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: then that's that's a straight up fight. I don't have 326 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: a problem would fight or stuff like that. But he's 327 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: telling the world through all these interviews that line. So 328 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: that's what's worth I'm saying. I got in the fight. 329 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't the toughest thing around. Fortunately, I 330 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: don't ever been in a fight where I lost me 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: because I just I've been I've been in law enforcence 332 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: since I've been eighteen. And yeah, you guys always win. 333 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: You guys got the bat time the gun. And unfortunately, 334 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the strongest dudes I've ever ran across. 335 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: We still don't talk to this day. Uh nick Bone 336 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: from from from the Living down l a Um. I 337 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: didn't lose that fight. It's just ways we're not doing 338 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: and he's just strong, dude. Well, I might have to 339 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: take up the neck bone. Neckbone knew who you was. 340 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: And he didn't go all the way he was trying to. 341 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: Couldn't take neckbone. He didn't come like big big correct 342 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: Now I know neck bone. Now he's strong to get 343 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: off the car, but I ain't gonna Yeah, yeah, I 344 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: was just trying to say, you know you're supposed to 345 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: and I love Neckbone. I'm just trying to say, that 346 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: was the strongest brother I ever read across. And I 347 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: mean I was on this. I was choking his brother out. 348 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: He was doing push ups with me on his back 349 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: while I'm trying to get him to comply, all right, 350 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: So does Big Cats have an open invitation to come 351 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to Gangster Chronicles and to tell his side of the 352 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: story with that, however he want to do it. I 353 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: would love to have him come on the show, so 354 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, or outside the studio however he wants 355 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: to do it. Now we're gonna do this legit. I 356 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: don't know whatever anything about what happened. I know probably 357 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: James knows better than I do better and and and 358 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: this is me on everything. I know Reggie and I 359 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: know Cash. I know Cash ain't He's not that come 360 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: out fuck you Nigo. I know he ain't gonna get 361 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: down like that because I've seen the new professional be professional, 362 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: and I know you could be professional. So just as 363 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: as men, you have a situation, and I'm saying, let's 364 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: get in here and let everybody here this situation be resolved. 365 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: And you set a point which I know he's lying, 366 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: but you made a point that he made got me 367 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: misconfused with someone else. I doubt that because I wouldn't 368 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: heard about she'll get knocked out the times we know 369 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: that she'll got knocked out. We know about I was 370 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: just trying to get Cash the benefit of the down 371 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: because he does say with your badass, and he didn't 372 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: he make so he din't know who he is. What 373 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying is person around there. And then as soon 374 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: as we leave here, I'm gonna get on the phone. 375 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it every last one of my brothers 376 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: to get that brother on the phone and bam, we're 377 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: gonna do it and we resolve it right here. Now, 378 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: what were the issues at Chosen Few? Why didn't he last? 379 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: He came in in two thousand thirteen and he was 380 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: out by two thousand sixteen. Yeah, well you have you have? 381 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: How coming is that? Where people only last two or 382 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: three years? It's coming people only last don't even make 383 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: it past probation, you know prospect then, Um, you know 384 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Chosen Few as a very is. My father's a Chosen Few. 385 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: He was being a Chosen people for thirty eight years now. 386 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: And the history of Chosen Few is is so amazing. Man, 387 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: you just wanted to be a part of it. So 388 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: when I became a Chosen Few and oh seven and 389 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: and just just were hanging around and then decided to 390 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: wear that patch, man, it was lovely. But then the 391 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: politics took him out the game. You can't treat everybody 392 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: as if they was your brothers. Now, you got a 393 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: bunch of men that you know for a month, but 394 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: you seem like you've known him for thirty years, and 395 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: and y'all just just click like that. You know how 396 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: to rise side by side with him, and you know 397 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: you're ready to die for this guy. You know what 398 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you're out there and and some motherfucker's 399 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: pull up and tell you you can't come across to 400 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: the state and you're ready to die, you know what 401 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Cash brung that to the club. He was 402 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: ready for that. Aspect of being a chosen few, he 403 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: came with that, but he gave himself up by allowing 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: itself to listen to other people in the club. You 405 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that it ain't had that much time, 406 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: no more time in the club than he did. And 407 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: and he ran with it. So they gave him a 408 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: chapter and venture, I believe, and I knew it wasn't 409 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna work because he was you can't give everybody, you 410 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: can't look out for everybody, you can't be friend to everybody, 411 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: And it just didn't work. It didn't work. And then 412 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: what we forget. We've been watching Sons of Anarchies and 413 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: all of that, and we believe that's how, you know, 414 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: the motorcycle gang stuff and going down. But believe it 415 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: or not, somebody that on the track playing my club 416 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: just okay, I'm gonna tell you something about your club. 417 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: The guy that was the president of the club, it 418 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: was a competent cop with me. Yeah, there's a lot 419 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: of exactly called a motorcycle gang club club. I I 420 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: but you know, you know we so there are a 421 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of copies exactly. So I was just trying to say, 422 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: it's good people that's involved in it as well. Yeah, 423 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: y'all don't look at copies of good people. I look 424 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: at cops good people. And that was my point. That's 425 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all look at it as you know 426 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about the people out there saying son 427 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: of an archie blood and address what um what was 428 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: the final straw for Kas and the Chosen Few? Well 429 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: cast finally finally seen that that he wasn't gonna get 430 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: his way and do be able to do what he 431 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do with his chapter. So, uh, the national 432 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: or whatever, I wasn't there so I can't really too 433 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: much speculate on it. But uh some say they took 434 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: his colors and kicked him out. I heard on the 435 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: interview by him from him saying that he walked away 436 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: from the club and he's forever Hayden the persons that 437 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: did it. So he got he got some personal vendetas 438 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: with some of the people and chosen few, which we 439 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: all do when we leave, you know what I'm saying. 440 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: But he just wentn't ready for that type of ship 441 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: to to to to you know, he's all in, but 442 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the motherfucker's he wucking with ain't ain't and he's not 443 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: paying attention to to the people that's really tell don't 444 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: even that, you know. So he wrote, don't just do 445 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: the ain't good, just do they ain't good. So that's 446 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: how me and his friendship went bad. But he didn't 447 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: listen to me. And I've been there way longer than him. 448 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: You remember your last conversation with cass. My last conversation 449 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: was cash. We was at a annual meeting and uh, 450 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: I went to shake his hand and say something joy 451 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: him and the national at the time, me and him 452 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: going through it, and he was telling some of the 453 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: club members. Don't funk with Big j and whoo whoop, 454 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: and don't funk with Mooney, don't funk with him. If 455 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: y'all do, y'all lose your colors. He didn't want to 456 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: shake my hand. Yeah, like he has. He didn't even 457 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: see us, So fucking don You're going about your business 458 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: and you do your thing, and me and him ain't 459 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: spoke sense. All right, Well, Big cast has an open 460 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: invitation to come on the show Gangster Chronicles to tell 461 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: your side of the story whenever you want. Let's move 462 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: on to the next topic. Um. There's been a lot 463 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: of talk here in Lost Angels over the years about 464 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: the relations between blacks and Mexicans, blacks and Browns, blacks 465 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: and Latinos, And for for a long time this wasn't 466 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: even an issue, especially like the seventies, eighties and maybe 467 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: the first part of the nineties, it really wasn't even 468 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: a topic. But I think things started to change as 469 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: the Mexican population started to grow and I started they 470 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: started to be the dominant group. I remember Compton was 471 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: like black in the seventies early eighties. Now you're looking 472 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: at it flipped. You go over and you go to 473 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: Compton Down and the mob neighborhood line, neighborhood lots Port, 474 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: you see all Mexicans. Yeah, they're buying the homes up 475 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: there like like crazy. But can you blame them? I 476 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: can't blame them. No, because Blacks are moving out to 477 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: the Inland Empire. They're going to the Antelope Valley, They're 478 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: going to Lancaster, Rancho Coucamonga and they're moving in, and 479 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: they're moving in and they're taking over those neighborhoods. So 480 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the question that was posed on our page was what's 481 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: the relationship like when the demographics start to change, especially 482 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the gang structure. Were basically the Mexicans 483 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: got the upper hand now and they have demonstrated that 484 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: a few times. Uh one Mexican cab went on the rampage. 485 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Was you remember that, and he was killing motherfucker's coming 486 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: over the bridge. Yeah, from seven up from and over 487 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: the bridge he was. He was doing his thing, and 488 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: and and the cold thing about that was, you know us, 489 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: as you know, being black, we didn't stick together, and 490 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: we didn't draw together and say fucking let's get this 491 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: motherfuck at my role. Well, they tried, they just couldn't 492 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: find him. He was hiding out stuff. But they eventually 493 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: got him on the police and eventually got he had 494 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: the police. So who was this guy? Since he did 495 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: right now I could text tops and get it was 496 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: this happening. This was two thousand maybe nine men. But 497 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: he was He had Nigga scared for a minute. It 498 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: was maybe the Loss Park dude, though not the mob. 499 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: He he was over there with the Loss Park dudes. 500 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: But but it happens that way. But the problem that 501 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I always had with the Mexican if I was a 502 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: game member, which I'm not and I never was, I 503 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: would have a problem with him because the we'd be 504 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: cool with them on the streets and all of that, 505 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: but they find out that you cool with them in 506 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: jail are in prison, do you know, they will not 507 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: They will not even talk to you. They wouldn't even 508 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: speak with you, speak to you. That's the same way 509 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: with us in prison. We came. I got that. But 510 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: that's my point is I don't see how we'd be 511 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: cool with them and were not. We y'all be cool 512 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: with them and stuff on the streets and stuff, and 513 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: then y'all can't. And then when they go and you 514 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: know that you know what this high school and school 515 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: would and all of that. They go to the prison, 516 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: they won't even talk to you. Everything is divided on 517 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: racial lines and practice because you have the Mesican mafia 518 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: and Peter I don't care where you're coming from. They 519 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: have rules and regulations. Yeah, you're not going to break those, 520 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: just like the b G Evson and the Yeah, they 521 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: pretty much was running when I yeah, when I was 522 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: in prison in the eighties, when I was in prison 523 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and eighty, they were pretty much dominating there. It was 524 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: a lot of b gfs there. It was a lot 525 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: of that. To follow the rules too. We had our 526 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: section that we had to kick it on and the 527 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: mesticans and whites had theirs. So it wasn't no mingling 528 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: because just like that, something can break out. You know 529 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Blacks for blacks. It's the same thing. 530 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: On the streets we had the seven ohs was was 531 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: loving us on the streets. The CB seventies was family. 532 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: There were black members of CV seven partying and drinking 533 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: the whole nine. Marcus Nunn was was they would do 534 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: anything for him. I bet China. I think China Dog 535 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: actually has a CV seventy tattoo. He knew it. He 536 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: speaks one of them, and he's the lottest Park piroule. 537 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So as as time went time passage, should 538 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: I say, now, everything started falling apart all of all 539 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods that had the Mexicans in between, like the Largos, 540 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: like the uh T Flats the seventies, they was they 541 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: was by bloods and and someone was by the crypts 542 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and what's cool with him? But then here you have 543 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: a situation where a Mexican get robbed or the Mexicans 544 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: robbed some some cats and didn't bring their ship back. 545 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: So relationships started to fade. And once that's starting to fade, 546 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and nobody really working with each other nowadays. Now, the 547 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: first large scale black brown conflict in Compton that I 548 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: remember was between the Tortilla Flats and the Fruittown Piroules. 549 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: That started, and when when they broke out, all hell 550 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: broke out. Because they know each other, they used to, 551 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: they wunk with each other for many years. I know 552 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: your advertise, I know where you live, I know who's 553 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: selling the drugs. I know who got this, I know 554 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: who got that. So both sides was basically a no 555 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: win battle and they can snatch and grab at any time. Well, 556 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you one that was bigger, and this 557 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: was some seven. Those they had different sets of seven. 558 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: Those they had the tiny logs, the Chicos, which everybody 559 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: where I grew up tiny logs where by where we 560 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: grew up at my grandmother Chicos. But anyway, it was 561 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: just dude in Ray from from Spook toown what claims 562 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: a Casia block. Okay, you talk about the CVS over there. 563 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, they killed his brother. Uh g Ray 564 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: it was his name, and I swear he used to 565 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: kill a Mexican in a week. You're talking about Pooh, 566 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: Is that Pool's brother? Because Pool had a brother two 567 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: is from a Casia block, Loonie Pool, and he had 568 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: a brother that was killed by the Casa block. Ray 569 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: was the brother that that that let them have it 570 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: for the whole time. I was a cop. I mean 571 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: at least once twice. Yeah, yeah, you talking nineties the 572 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: nineties when this one happened. Um, but g Ray let 573 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: him have it there every day and that was major. 574 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean he used to tear him up and you know, 575 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: they go shoot his mama house up or something like that. 576 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: But d Ray didn't get get killed for a while. 577 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still alive. But but that conflict right now, 578 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: it's still going on right now between the Casia block 579 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: and TV. It's actually a Casia that's the first one, 580 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Spook Town and farm them three hoods are going at 581 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: it with TV seventy on that side of competent. I 582 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: forget they're not the Ticoss, the Ticos, the tiny loads 583 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: and another setups seven those I don't know, I need 584 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Tim Brennan. Here's here's what a lot of people want 585 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: to know. Is is it just gang ship causing this 586 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: conflict or is it really racial and eftic animosity driving it? Okay, 587 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: it's gang ship gang mentality period, and then you got 588 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: drugs involved. Then you got territory involved. Back in the days, 589 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: all the Compton was was our ship. And the Mexicans 590 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: did they They didn't come out and just hang on 591 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: the blocking was you know, running the streets like doing 592 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: it like we was doing it because they weren't there. 593 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot of numbers that and walk 594 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: in the hood school they had numbers they went school. 595 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Because half those competing videos that exist now weren't even 596 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: out fifteen years ago. They got like thirty different cvs. Me. 597 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: They're growing. I mean, they just just I remember the 598 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: white boy that we grew up with. Uh that that 599 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Wiggly and claimed. But that was the 600 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: first dude that I knew. They got killed in that 601 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: gang stuff. I guess I wasn't about to field grade. 602 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: You remember white Wigglyn and he got killed over there 603 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: on Pine Street. Um, on the other side of the pie. 604 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I remember he went to the house party and got killed. Uh, 605 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: that was the first time I heard of you know, 606 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: the Mexican Games and and and all of that ship man. 607 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: So they've been around now, the Mexicans fighting for the 608 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: territory because they controlled the A. Yeah, they controlled the 609 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: A and and and and and the Nico game. So 610 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: a lot of things come to play with with with 611 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: all that, and it ain't gonna stop because to some 612 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: of us, it's like a job. To some of them 613 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: is like a job. We ain't got nothing else to do. 614 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: We get high. What's the first thing you do when 615 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: you get high and you loaded, Man, let's go go 616 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: ready on these fools, let's go, let's go smash some heads. 617 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: And then then you it just it just ain't gonna stop, 618 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: just ain't gonna stop, and it's too much damaged goods 619 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: and then just say, okay, this ship over, were all good? Well, 620 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: the tree, the Fruit Town parous, and the Tortilla Flats 621 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: aren't really going at it like they used to go. 622 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: Calmed down. Yeah, that's few years. It's just a lot 623 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: of years. A lot of people are going a lot 624 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: of people have moved up by the Fruit Town, a 625 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are doing penitentiary time. And and also 626 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: with the teeth flash, a lot of those cats is 627 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: doing life in prison. So let's say they took their 628 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: beef to the penitentiary. Are the ones that said fuck 629 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: it and got away, moved on up out of there. 630 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: And that's how it was able to aside to what 631 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: it is now. It's not that much. But if you 632 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: run into each other and you see each other, they fight, 633 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: they go at it. And how do you feel that 634 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: maybe in twenty years confidence gonna be like five percent black. 635 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know, the bad thing crazy? You see it. 636 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: It's just Compton is almost all Americans right now. You 637 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: go to Compton and and and as soon as it's 638 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: just nighttime, you see they got their vendom machines on 639 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: damn every they got from taco trucks, the fruits or whatever. 640 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: They're doing their thing on my block along was all 641 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: black on our street. Now that we're selling our home 642 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: in Compton, it's only two black families that are still 643 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: there and the and the people that are gonna buy 644 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: your house are probably Lastino, Mexican or Central America. Guess 645 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: what the council and Compton is Mexican most of all 646 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: the politicians and black. And that's the crazy thing about 647 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: the council. I think if they have one Mexican and 648 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: he was just appointed, he wouldn't even vote it in. 649 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Well that'll change over time, but eventually because would now 650 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: and then went out of Mexican mayor and stuff like that. 651 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: But well, I think it's important to note that a 652 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: lot of people think it's just black people in Mexican 653 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: people hate each other in l A. But that ain't 654 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: the case. It's just you got certain hood wars going on. 655 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: A lot of neighbors were cool, Oh yeah, we all 656 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: grew up like we grew together. They had a problem 657 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: over one one area. We had to look that up though. 658 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: Where with the c where they were telling them they 659 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: had to move out. They had to get out, They 660 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: had to get out. They were threatened there, and they're 661 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: threatened all the pirus over there and their families and 662 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: was telling the black families they had to move out 663 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: of the area. And that went on about three, three 664 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: or five years ago. It was major over there. This 665 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: has been a digital so much network production