1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Ron An Anian. We had Cadillac in the shop this 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: week where the brake lights were standing on all the 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: time and right or what do you think to yourself? Okay, 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: it's got a bad break light switch. You go through 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: the course of diagnosis. There is no switch in this car. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: The car Doctor problem, Well, I would two foot this. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: If you tap the brake pedal while you're stepping on 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the gas doesn't solve the problem. Welcome to the radio 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: home of ron An Anian, the Car Doctor. Since this 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the garage doors are open, but I am here to 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five and now he running. Hey, 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you today about well the 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: value of cheap water repair. 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Julian is from Generation Auto 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: TV and he's gonna talk to us a little bit 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: about the last Surviving Smokey and the Band at trans 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Am that's being walking off this weekend to barat Jackson 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: and we can look forward to watching that later on 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: this weekend on Discovery and Velocity channels. But before we 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: open the garage doors and address some of the busy 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: phone calls that we've got coming in, I want to 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about I mean, maybe this is 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: a perspective I haven't addressed. I actually saw value in 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: cheap auto repair this week in that it generates work 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: after the fact. Let me tell you the story this way, 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: new customer, well, the son of a regular customer, and 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I see William off and on. He's he's going to college. 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: He's studying music. Nice young man. He is a musician, 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and he's very much into classical music. And he you know, 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: he will look at things and put it together as 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: an orchestra in a sin anywhere. I'll just look at 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: it and say, it's a bunch of black thoughts and 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: notes on a page. But everybody's got there pickadillos and everybody, 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: can you know, my notes and music occur under the 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: hood or inside the car, whereas his or on a 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: piece of paper in front of an orchestra. He tooknda 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Accord in for some breakework down by school where he 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: goes a couple of hours away, about a year ago, 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: and he had breakes done, He had front breaks done. 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: He had three of four tires put on the car, 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: which he says was his fault that they didn't do four. 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: But I disagreed and said, you know, there's a lot 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: of an argument that I would have with somebody at 71 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the counter to do three tires not four, for the 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: obvious reason of which is why he was in the 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: shop this week talking about replacing that fourth tire. The 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: problem with the car, the problem that brought him to 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: the door, was pretty traditional. When he stepped on the brake, 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the car shook so badly that he couldn't control it. It 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: It was a pretty bad pulse or shake in the steering. 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, the first thought as brakes, and 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: but the brakes were just done, and how could that be? 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Just like anything else where do you begin to diagnosis 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: at the beginning? All right, treat it like you would 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: every other time, and went out and road tested the car, 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, brought him and signed it up, explained what 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, took it out for the road test, 85 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, got away from traffic and duplicated it under 86 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: his conditions, and yeah, sure enough, step on the brake. 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: There's a shutter in the steering and the wheel is 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: just shaking as it's as it's violently going back and 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: forth as you're trying to slow the vehicle down. Brought 90 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: the car back to the shop, put it up in 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the air, pulled four wheels. Not only do I have 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: front rotors that are warped beyond twenty three thousands, they're 93 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: just I mean, it's like the wave. Okay, it is 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: also about eleven or twelve thousand's in the rear almost 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: half as much but not quite. The problem is it 96 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: needed breaks, It needed rotors. The bigger problem came about 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: because the front pads and rotors that were put on 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the car a year or ten months ago, whatever it was. 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: We're such poor quality. And that's what I wanted to 100 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, I don't want to just say 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: as somebody had a cheap break job done and it 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't work out, because obviously we all know the merit 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: and that we all understand why that doesn't work out. 104 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: What I wanted to tell you was I think I've 105 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: come up with a way to tell you how to 106 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: tell when it is a cheap break job. And I 107 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: think it's in how they write their invoice. And maybe 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: we shouldn't talk about this because maybe they'll change the 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: way they do things. I don't know. One of the 110 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: things I noticed about his invoice was it said front 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: break pads, front break rotors. That was it. No part numbers, 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: no description, no, but everything was at It seems like 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: if it ends in, that must be the clue. That's 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: like the uh, that's like the well, we're doing a 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: cheap routine. You know, typical break rotors of a good 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: quality in the aftermarket or either that or from the 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: dealer level. Typically you're gonna see them in that seventy 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: five eighty dollar range and up. It would seem that 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: the majority of break rotors, and I know there's gonna 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: be variations out there, they're gonna vary, but it's gonna 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: begin somewhere around seventy bucks and it's gonna go up 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: to about a hundred, a hundred and ten, a hundred 123 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: and twenty. You've got to stop looking at the cheaper rotors. 124 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: You've got to be aware of that and ask the shop, hey, 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: are these original equipment rotors? Is this the entry level 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: set of breaks? Is this the better grade set of breaks? 127 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: And learn to look at that and say, hey, what 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: exactly are you putting on the car? And then the 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: second part of the question has to be what's the 130 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: warranty because if these go bad in the warranty period, 131 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: are you gonna replace them? For me, what I believe 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: happened to William's car was the front breaks were such 133 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: poor quality that not only did it affect the rear 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: the fronts. The fronts were warped and the fronts didn't work, 135 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: but it overworked the rears and created the pulse back there. 136 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Because I've got to tell you, Honda a chord that 137 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: generation accord. Usually we don't see many rotor pulse issues. 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: It's usually the pads of worn out and there's a 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: rust ridge there. His brakes had a little bit longer 140 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: life to go in the rear, but as a result 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: of the fronts, the fronts effected the back and created 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: the bigger issue. The other warning sign for me was 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: he had three tires put on the car. The three 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: tires were three and thirty six dollars mounted balanced out 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the door. No mention of valve stems. And this car 146 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: is a thirteen A chord. There is no TPMs like 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: we traditionally not. It's based off of a BS, so 148 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: there would be a val stem to replace. There was 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: no mention of New Jersey tire fee, which I thought 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: was interesting. There was no mention of hazardous waste. It 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: was three tires, three and thirty six dollars. Doesn't say 152 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: whether they balanced them, doesn't say what they did with them. 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I assume they mounted them because obviously they were on 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: the car. My point is this, you're not You're not 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: going to and you shouldn't see a book when you 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: pick up the car. It doesn't have to be a novel. 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Hey we did this, this, this, this, this. It's got 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: to have some kind of a description. It's got to 159 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: make sense. It's got to be something that a year 160 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: from now, if you go to look at it, hey 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: what do they do to the car, You'll be able 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: to read it and understand it and not guess. And 163 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing over the course of my forty three 164 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: year career is the places that are doing it on 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: a discount, the places that are doing it on a 166 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: volume basis are writing descriptions that are nondescript. Sometimes I 167 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: think that's how the dealers do it too, But I 168 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to say that about dealers that kind of 169 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: beats them up. That's not a fair statement, so I won't, 170 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: although sometimes I do so. I think how that invoice 171 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: is written tells a lot about how that repair was 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: actually done. So there is some value in cheap work. 173 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: It generates more work for the other shops that want 174 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: to do it right. Eight zero zero, I'm running any 175 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We're gonna pull over and take 176 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: the pause and when we return kick the garage doors 177 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: were wide open. Stay tuned. Ye, hey, welcome back. We'ren't 178 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: the end of the Car Doctor rolling along this hour. 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget to get out to YouTube. 180 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Out on YouTube, you'll find the dense O TV channel 181 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: uh dnso TV and you'll find information about, um well, 182 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of automotive things. We recently posted a video 183 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: out there that you can also see on the Car 184 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Facebook page. But in case you're not a member 185 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: of Facebook, you go out to YouTube, go to dense 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: O t V posted uh well we think is a 187 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: fairly nice video a little short clip a couple of 188 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: minutes about spark plug, removing some of the dudes and 189 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: don't and some of the things to look for. You'll 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: find that out there on the dens O TV channel 191 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: at YouTube. If you need more information, UM get out 192 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: to dens O t T dot com. That's dense O 193 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: t T dot com the website, and you'll also find 194 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: information about a sixteen dollar spark plug rebate from the 195 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: folks over at then, so you can get some dens 196 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: O t T s in your vehicle. So let's move 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: forward and go over and talk to David online one Moscow, Idaho. 198 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: I hope that says Idaho. If that said Moscow by itself, 199 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: I had really worry that the signal is really coming 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: in well on this antenna. David, how can I help 201 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: you run in any of the car doctors room? Yeah, well, 202 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: I just called it in the share my experience that 203 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: I had with a used car warranty. I've heard question 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: sure go ahead talk on your show. And this was 205 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: quite a few years ago. Nine four I bought a 206 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Chivy pick up and the salesman talked me into buying 207 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: a used car warranty, which I kind of went back 208 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and forth. I was on the fence, but probably and 209 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: and I've always done all my own oil changes, so 210 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: I did regular oil changes that every three thousand miles 211 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: or just a little bit less. Kept the receipts for 212 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: the filters oil and you know the date mile age. 213 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: Any Way, about a year later, I got out one 214 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: day why the pickup was running. I could hear a 215 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: knock that sounded like an engine knox. I took the 216 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: pick up to the shervel light dealer I was in Portland, 217 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Oregon at the time, and took my paperwork, the warranty, 218 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: which I had no idea how valid it was, actually 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: had the service manager. There was a lady service manager 220 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: there at the time. She took the paperwork and whatever. 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: And bottom line, I end up with a new engine 222 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: in that truck and probably about a hundred fifty dollars 223 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: in my pocket. At the chival A dealer, I had 224 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: to pay for like and a free's disposal and spark 225 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: plugs and you know a few misleads. Yeah, the material stuff, 226 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah. Um let me ask you this, 227 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that was what that was? What you're david? Well, the 228 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: that was in about and I actually found the receipts. 229 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: I also got the power of steering gear replaced on 230 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: that warranty, and I found the receipt for that. I 231 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: haven't been able to track down the actual repair order 232 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: for the motor, but the power steering was seven bill 233 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: and I paid a hundt that well. And you know, 234 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: it's I wonder if maybe and not discounting your experience. 235 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: And you know, there are people out there that have 236 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: some great used car warranty experiences, and I think that's great. 237 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I think that part of this conversation was generated a 238 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: few weeks back. We were talking about the purchase a 239 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: used car warranty or a new car warranty, and it 240 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: sort of came from there. Uh. You know, I think 241 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: today's cars are very very complex, and it's a it's 242 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: an entirely different animal. And my biggest complaint about warranties 243 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: are their limits and the fine print that they don't 244 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: necessarily explain. I think I think I have a friend 245 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: who had a bad experience just because of that. Do 246 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: you do you know enough details about it to talk 247 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: about it? But he bought a two thousand two four 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: D F one fifty used and bought a drive tank 249 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: train warranty. UH. During the warranty period, the he called it, 250 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: the extension housing from the transmission to the transfer case 251 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: broke and they said they want to cover it because 252 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't part of the specific items listed under the 253 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: drive train, which was transmission. They said the extension housing 254 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: wasn't part of the transmission, so they want to pay. 255 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: But he finally went to the UH Attorney General's office 256 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and they worked on it for several months and he 257 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: finally did get him to pay twelve hundred out of 258 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: a twenty eight hundred dollar bill. Yeah, it hassle for you. 259 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: I think the key with warranties and with maintaining a 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: car at some level, it really comes back to, you know, paperwork, 261 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: documentation and you know, just keeping that paper trail and 262 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: I I can't stress that enough, and people don't seem 263 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: to do that. The It amazes me how they won't 264 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: even keep invoices. We had we we had someone UH 265 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: last week that was stuck on the side of the road. 266 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: They called for help and I said, well, if you look, 267 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: you know we're an a c Delco Professional Service Center. 268 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: And as a result of that, a c Duco allows 269 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: extended warranty and and um roadside service as part of that. 270 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't cost anybody anything. It's just there. It's part 271 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: of the deal. And I can't tell you how many 272 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: times I've said, hey, do you have your AC delco 273 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: folder with you know? You know, do you have the 274 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: last invoice? No? Where is it? I don't know. You know, 275 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: it's you can only help those that help themselves, so 276 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: to speak. Uh, it's it's but you know, interesting points, David. 277 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate, I appreciate and value the input. I think 278 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna leave it as a takeaway that 279 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: extended warranties have their place, and I think it's a 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: case by case basis. They're not all good, but they're 281 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: not all bad either. Yeah the way there you go. Well, 282 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: you know that's the problem over here. Yeah, that's the best. 283 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: That's the best part of the story. Right. So but um, listen, David, 284 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call, and I appreciate the input. 285 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: You have yourself a good rest of the afternoon. Thank you, sir, 286 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: very much. I appreciate that. Let's get over and talk 287 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: to Brian pomp Springs, California. Yeah, Brian, you're out with 288 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Sir Yester? First 289 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: time caller? Okay, what can I do for you? Let's 290 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: see if we can help you out here. Well, I 291 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: got a two thousand four GMC envoy and it gets 292 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: the well I had the engine mounts replace because I 293 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: had a vibration in the car, and um, but I 294 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: still get a slight vibration and help, but I still 295 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: get a vibration. And they're saying it could be my 296 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: shock or transmission or alternator or power you got, you got, 297 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: you got a pencil handy, Brian. Yeah, you want to 298 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: get a look at you ready for this? You're gonna 299 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: love this. Yeah, it's and but it's actually it's it's 300 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: not that terrible. You want to get a look at 301 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: General Motors bulletin oh four oh seven thirty DASHOW thirty five. 302 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: It's been out there a long time. It's probably last 303 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: time I looked at it, it it was at least seven 304 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: eight years ago. So I'm gonna say it's a ten 305 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: year bulletin. Oh four oh four oh seven thirty dash 306 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: O thirty five or oh thirty five. I don't think 307 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: there's any dash there. And that bulletin talks specifically about 308 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: problems with the rear transmount ah okay, and also get 309 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: a look at GM tech tech if if they call 310 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: it a technical document, but they give it a bullet 311 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: they don't give it a bullet to number. They give 312 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: it a technical document number, technical document number p I 313 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: T like PIT but one T D P I T 314 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: D S and David Um talk specifically along with that 315 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: other bullet and talk specifically about rocks. If you can 316 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: believe this, we're bats in your belfry. Well, you got 317 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: rocks in your transmount, my friend. The little tiny pebbles 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: are getting down into the transmount and it grinds against 319 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: itself and it actually takes away the ability you know, 320 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: amount has to isolate the engine and the trans onto 321 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: rubber and isolated away from the chassis. The rocks build 322 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: up enough of a pile that they come in contact 323 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: from the top to the bottom. There's a well there 324 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: and they actually transmit a vibration through the floor pan 325 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: and you feel it up inside the vehicle. Oh yeah, 326 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: it's it's all the way through and it's and and 327 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: it's just more of an irritation, but very very common problem. 328 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: You get your hand on either one of those two 329 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: documents and they'll talk about it, and I think that 330 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: will solve it for you. And that would be when 331 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm driving, it's it's only when it's 332 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: only when you're s it's only when you're sitting still, 333 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: when you're sitting in a light in gear, it may 334 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: even change. I bet if you put it in neutral, 335 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: the vibration diminishes some. Yep. Yeah, so you've got you've 336 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: got that. Take a look at that, or have your 337 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: mechanic look at it. They may be able to. In 338 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: some cases they had to replace the transmounts. In other cases, 339 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you can just blow the pebbles out and see 340 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: if the problem goes away, and if it does, at 341 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: least you know how to upgrade and replace that transmount itself. 342 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: But either one of those documents should explain it for you, 343 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: all right, Brian, good luck to you, babe. I mean, 344 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: if that works, If it doesn't, any in the car 345 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: doctor is on duty, send me an email Ron at 346 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: card Doctor show dot com and we can talk about 347 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: it even further. So, Hey, coming up next out bounding down, Well, 348 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: we'll see Nandy and the car doctors. We're back right 349 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: after this. Are we going to do what they say, 350 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Candy Done. Hey, welcome back. You know, one of the 351 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: best parts about this job is the fact that besides 352 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: talking about repairing cars, we get to talk about the 353 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: cars that really struck that emotional nerve for all of us. 354 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: That take us back to a time when well we 355 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: just remember where we were and what we were doing 356 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: and when we first saw that first look at that car. 357 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Today's that car happens to be that black trans Am 358 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: from Smoky in the Bandit and here to talk to 359 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: us about it as it's being prepped for its auction 360 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: is Julian White from Generation Auto TV. Julian, Welcome to 361 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Hey, thanks for having me on. I 362 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: am serio eyed listening to your description of this memories 363 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, you know this is you start to 364 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: look at the movie cars as we call them, and 365 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: this is clearly one of the movie cars, right. Um, 366 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, it just defined a generation. Everybody remembers where 367 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: they were. You remember scenes from that movie. I love 368 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: the scene where the trans am is running down the 369 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: mailboxes and the windshow wipers are going. Uh. You know, 370 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: you start to think about the things that are in 371 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: that movie, the little bits of detail and you watch 372 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again, and the wives 373 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: and the girlfriends go, why are we watching this for 374 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the time? Because it's a great movie. It's got the 375 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: cars in it. You know, they don't they don't see that. 376 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: So tell us what's coming up today at Barrett Jackson, 377 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: because obviously there's got to be some kind of an 378 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: excitement there. There is so much excitement which you can 379 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: see live on Discovery and Channel at six pm Eastern, 380 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: So I encourage you guys to tune in to see it. 381 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: But this trans am is doing on the auction block. 382 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: Mr Burt Reynolds himself will be on the block writing 383 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: up in the car as it gets prepared to be 384 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: auctioned off here at Barret Jackson. Scotts the owner. Now, 385 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: this is one of five that are that were used 386 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: during the movie, Julan, what can you tell us about it? Yeah, 387 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: there were five cars used for filming, production and promotion 388 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: of the movie Smoking and abandon Four of those cars 389 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: are gone, their crushed, they're they're long gone their beer 390 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: cans now. But the fifth one was used to promote 391 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the movie, and that's the one that's going up on 392 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: the auction block. It's the only one with authentic, verified 393 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: direct hie to the movie. When we found the car 394 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: last year, it had been sitting for thirty years, as 395 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: the second owner had had the car. But when we 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: got inside the car, we found maps of locations sites 397 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: to the movie. We found a script of the movie. 398 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: We found press kits. But the real, the real thing 399 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: was the certificate from Universal Studios which authenticated the car 400 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: that they had used it, matching the venom. But then 401 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: when we pulled title, because that's still could have been 402 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: a you know, we're a little skeptical of that document, 403 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: we found the title said Universal Prolo Car previously titled 404 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: to the Burt Reynold's Institute Fulfillment Theater. Wow yea. So 405 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: we contacted Burt Reynolds camp and they were great enough 406 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: to help us promote it. I was missed with r 407 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: with Mr Reynolds a month ago and he filmed a 408 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: segment that you could find at Barrett Jackson's website as 409 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: well as ours generation Auto dot tv, And you could 410 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: watch that one minute with Burt Reynolds tell you the 411 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: whole story of the car. Crazy wow and and who 412 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: and who wouldn't enjoy that? You know, you listen to 413 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: the music, and you sort of expect to look in 414 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror and see Jackie Glees and chasing 415 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds around around the map. Right, It's a little 416 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: surreal being here. It's at Barret Jackson because we have 417 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: a Burt Reynolds and a Buford t Justice impersonator. So 418 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: I do feel like I'm getting followed around when standing 419 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: next to the car, and to my left is Mr 420 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Reynolds last night in front of the car doing some press. 421 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: Surreal that it's a lot of fun and very exciting. Yeah, 422 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: I can imagine. I can imagine. Where do you where 423 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: do you think the numbers? Can we talk about? Or 424 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: where do you think the numbers are gonna fall for 425 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: this car? Um? We are told that it's probably going 426 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: to hit a million dollars seven figure car. Yeah, transams 427 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: are very very high right now in back there's been 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: four or five of the time across the block in 429 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the last three days. They're all setting records for their 430 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: year car. A couple of nights ago, restore a muscle car. 431 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Dave Haul, he's very popular trans am community, brought a 432 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: car here and it was a seven mile tent anniversary 433 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: seventy nine trans am went for a hundred and seventy 434 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, set the record for ten anniversary trans ams. Well, 435 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: you know that the seventies was that time period. I 436 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: graduated high school in the early seventies, and I remember 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Pontiac in the mid seventies and on, you know, down 438 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: around oh you know, they started to die off in popularity. 439 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: When Smoking and the Bandit came out, car sales just 440 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: took off through the roof. It was Yeah, it was crazy. 441 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: And and that's what this car represents two beyond the 442 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: movie and not taking away from its movie greatness, but 443 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: it brought back Pontya has a car maker in the 444 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: eyes of America at the time, in the eyes of 445 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: the American car hold of the youth generation at that time. Um, 446 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: they looked upon them and said, wow, And they're having 447 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: they're having a resurgence now because Pontiac is actually as 448 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: you know, as you just mentioned, it's been gone for 449 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: so many years. And a little side that that was 450 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: told me to be told me to stay by a bidder. 451 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Those cars that were sold earlier today are being picked 452 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: up because the collector is afraid that after our carselves 453 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: tonight for a millions that they transent values that it 454 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: goes so high they don't want to buy him later. 455 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: They're buying him now with the anticipation the car they 456 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: buy yesterday when we were more tomorrow after our carself. 457 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I've got to think so again, Yeah, I've got to 458 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: think so. So. Hey, listen, maybe you'll find in the 459 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: eighteen wheel or that Jerry Reid drove and um, somebody 460 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: could have a match set. I wonder whatever happened to that. Listen, 461 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: If the listeners want to get more information, Julian, where 462 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: can they go? As your a website, they can or 463 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, other than finding it, I mean obviously they 464 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: can get out to UH is it Discovery or Velocity 465 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: or is it one of the other, depending upon their 466 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: part of the country. Yeah, there's a number of sites 467 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: that can go through. The first would be Generation Auto 468 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: dot TV, and you will find out auction information, car information, 469 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds video, or of course they can go directly 470 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: to Barrett typhon Jackson dot com UH and watch the 471 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: live stream, or of course they can go to Discovery 472 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: at six Eastern and see this car get auctioned off 473 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: and look at the owner rules going to have a 474 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: movie memorabilia. It's very cool stuff. Julian. We want to 475 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to share with the 476 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 1: listeners today. We're always glad to have you here at 477 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. You uh you keep us in mind, 478 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: will help. We'll help talk to you in the future 479 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: about the future events as they unfollowed, right, sir, that's fantastic. 480 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: I look forward to it. Take good care, have fun today, yes, sir, 481 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: um yeah, how much fun would that be to you know, 482 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: be sitting there on stage and uh Bert walks up 483 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: next in you know what would it take to get 484 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: Bert to put the cowboy hat on and say, let's 485 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: go for one last ride? Huh? You know, let's take 486 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: it out the door. Probably not five zero nine zero zero. 487 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. Let's pull over 488 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and take the pause. When we return, we'll get back 489 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: the phone call. Let stay tuned, coming by a right, 490 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back, run any in the car doctor, year zero 491 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's get the phones open again. Let's 492 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Matt and Guilford, Maine. Some 493 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: questions about a three Dodge power Wagon. Matt, Welcome to 494 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: the car. Docticer, how can I help? Well, first off, 495 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call, love the show, Thank you, 496 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: thank you. Get a crazy question for you looking at 497 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: this old M thirty seven Dodge as a possible road vehicle. 498 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean they were tough pieces of iron with a 499 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: full fuel tank and the winch on front of weighs 500 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: three tons, so you know it's it's a solid old 501 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: girl and the one I found in really good shape. 502 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, but I know there's a butt here somewhere. Good. 503 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: What I'm not impressed with is that fifty seems to 504 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: top it out, and six miles per gallon is about 505 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: the best you're gonna get for fuel mileage. Yeah, that's that. 506 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: That's true statement. The only way you get it to 507 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: go faster is if you go over the cliff, and 508 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: that'll cut down both on fuel economy. It will increase 509 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: top end, but only for a short time. So you know, 510 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: what do you do about it? And understand, you know, 511 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: there's a romance to these vehicles, and we have to 512 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: talk about the romantic factor because you know it's funny. 513 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the Smokey and the band 514 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: that trans am. There's a romance to that vehicle. There's 515 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: a romance to a fifty three Dodge power Wagon. You 516 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: look at it and you're just like you think Tim 517 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: Allen or or you know, it's just it comes up 518 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: from within. It's just it signifies and personifies what the 519 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: vehicle is. You know, what you're really telling me is 520 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: you like the the guts and the look of a 521 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: fifty three power wagon. What you want a modern drive train. 522 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: You want something that will, you know, give you better 523 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: fuel economy and a higher top end. The problem becomes 524 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: that you're trying to soften up, as you said, a 525 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: piece of iron, and it becomes difficult. You know. One 526 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: of the things I'll equate it to you this way. 527 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: One of the things I learned about fifty five Chevys 528 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: over the past forty five years and my romance with 529 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: them again, romance right, they are They are cool hot rods. 530 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: That mean you hang your arm out the window, the 531 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: winds blowing in your hair at forty five miles an hour, 532 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: sometimes a little faster. You know, you're all alone out 533 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: on the highway at two in the morning, and that's 534 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: another story. But you know it's cool. There's a cool factor. 535 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that I could drive a fifty five 536 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Chevy every day of the week. I don't know that 537 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: I could do that. It's you know, it's it's it's power, 538 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: it's manual breaks, it's big and bulky, it's it's a box. 539 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: And you know, there are times where you just want 540 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: to get into another vehicle and just not have to 541 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: think about it and drive older cars. And this is 542 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna sound like I'm I'm degrading myself, but older cars 543 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: require thought. You know, sometimes sometimes you want to just 544 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, do nothing. So you know, be cautious about this. 545 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, if you want something as a weekend truck 546 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: or once in a while by it, but you know, 547 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: at that point, I don't know that I to justify 548 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: the expense to convert it into something more modern and 549 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: softer and easier to ride and and and make it 550 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 1: work like that, and you know what we'll call it. 551 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, we'll call it what it is from that perspective, 552 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: all right, Matt. So just you know, be cautious about it. 553 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a three or four day a week truck 554 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: and you have something else for the rest of the time. 555 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: But to start changing gears and make everything else work, 556 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna start to science this thing out where you 557 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: might as well just buy a shell and put a 558 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: modern drive train in it and see how that works out, 559 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: and and kind of take it from there. Good lucky 560 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: man if you ever do buy it, depending upon what 561 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: you find. If you don't buy this one, send us 562 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: some pictures, will put them up on the Car Doctor 563 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Facebook page. Brian Dallas, Texas OH seven Expedition. How can 564 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I help you, sir? Heron appreciate you. I've got an 565 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: O seven expedition with seventy thous on it. Um. You know, 566 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of you know, listen to you and listen 567 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: to my father, and he's one to preach prevented maintenance, 568 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: and so in particular with regards to the spark plugs, uh, 569 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: you know they'd get the dreaded three piece park plus. Yeah, 570 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: this is this is that motor? Yeah it is. So 571 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out your approach or your opinion. 572 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Given one, there's there's an age factor, so I want 573 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: to do it before it gets too old. However, the 574 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: mileogy is somewhat low for the vehicle. Well, and I think, yeah, 575 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I think you know, Brian, I I see and here 576 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: horror stories at forty and fifty thousand miles, so it's 577 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily this mileog is so low. I would 578 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: tell you to take it to, you know, who's got 579 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: the most experienced down by you. You're thinking independent shop, 580 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: the dealer. Have you talked to anybody? Yeah? I have. 581 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: I've talked to the dealer, Um there obviously won't verse 582 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: in it. And then I've talked to I've talked to 583 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: some independence that I like. One of them won't touch 584 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: one of them won't touch it. Another you know, is 585 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: your the opinion if there's no lights on and it's 586 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: driving fine, and just keep driving it right, that's that's 587 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to do it. Um, yeah, right right, 588 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: So you know, my my vote is take it to 589 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: the dealer. He's got the most experience with it. Uh 590 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: you know. I I have seen the shops that do 591 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: it on a more frequent regular basis have the best success, 592 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: and they've got the tricks down pat and the dealer 593 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: can probably quote you a pretty firm price upfront because 594 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: they've got so much experience with it. I would I 595 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: would venture to guess, um, you know, and let them 596 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: do it. I I clearly think doing it now is 597 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: better than trying to do it later, it's only gonna 598 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: get worse understood understood, And because there's darn old lights 599 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: and just function of I don't want to if it's 600 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: seized up, I don't want to seize it up anymore. Right. 601 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: You know this is like the logic I've never changed 602 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: the trans fluid until it turns black. But by the 603 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: time it turns black, you need a trans So what's 604 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: the point. Uh? You know, preventative maintenance is the way 605 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: to go. And then when they have the coils out, 606 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: they can put a little dielectric rease in there and 607 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: put the coils back in. If they see any coils 608 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: with arcing or anything that looks like it's cracked, they 609 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: can change the coil and be proactive. Then I don't 610 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: necessarily just change coils when I pull the plugs on 611 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: these vehicles. I will do boots if boots are available, 612 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: and ask them this. If spark plug boots are available 613 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: a separate item, I would do boots. And you know, 614 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: coil and plugs together, but coils are a case by 615 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: case basis. Hey, Brian, I'll tell you what. Stay on 616 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: the line. We're gonna try and soften the blow we're 617 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna send you that twenty five dollar O'Riley Oto Parts 618 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: gift card good for anything at oriley Ota Parts or 619 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: riley Oto dot com. It'll help you. Maybe you can 620 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: pick out a set of plugs. Get out to O'Riley 621 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: Oto and maybe you'll find a nice set of dense 622 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: O T T s. More information at dense O T 623 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: T dot com. But in any events, stay on the line. 624 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: We'll be sending you this twenty five dollar gift card. 625 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm runing any in the Car Doctor. We are back 626 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: right after this Welcome back. We're on ane of the 627 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Here at nine zero of the Car Doctor number. 628 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Call leave a message. If we're not on the air, 629 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you about your car problem the following week. 630 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Fast Harry will put you in the lineup. Let's go 631 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: over and talk to Pete from Michigan two thousand, Toyota 632 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: Rap four A heater problem. Pete, Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. 633 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah? I gotta um, yeah, heater problem. 634 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: What what I have is that everything works seems to 635 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: work fine, all my controls work fine, everything, but when 636 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: it gets done like twenty degrees or colder, it takes 637 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: quite a while to um uh to warm up and 638 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, when I make 639 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: a left turn, I get I get hotter heat and 640 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: more volume coming out of my vent. That's the weird part. Okay, Well, 641 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: let's let's take it one step at a time, all right. 642 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: If we were gonna diagnosis at the shop, the first 643 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: thing I want to deal with is I want to 644 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: know how hot is what's coming out of the ducts 645 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: currently at? How hot is hot? I want a thermometer 646 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: in the duct? All right? The vehicle, the vehicle on 647 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: a thirty five degree day should warm up within six 648 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: to eight minutes and produce somewhere between a hundred and 649 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: forty and a hundred and sixty degrees of heat. That's 650 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: an average vehicle, all right, good thermost that proper flow 651 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: and so on. If we don't get that hundred and 652 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: if we don't get a minimum of a hundred and 653 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty five to forty degrees of heat in six to 654 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: seven minutes at the duct, then I want to know 655 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: how long does it take before we get that heat? 656 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: Do we ever get that heat? Because I've seen and 657 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: the reason I go for a specific temperature peat is 658 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: because I see too many people start to chase. Well, 659 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: it's sort of feels warm, but it gets warmer if 660 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I do this, or it gets colder if I do that. 661 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: I want to know numbers, all right, plain and simple. Right, 662 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: Once I established where the heat is, let's say the 663 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: heats good. Let's say I'm getting a hundred and forty 664 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: five degrees of heat. All right, But then you turn 665 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: to the left, you know, as you say, or you 666 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: get more airflow. Sounds like a blend or problem. May 667 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: we were into something with ducks. But I still want 668 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: to know what my temperature is. If the heat out 669 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: put is low. If you've got a mnemic heat check 670 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: both heater hoses. One heater hose is gonna be engine temper. 671 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be real hot, hard to touch, hot to 672 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: the touch. The other one is gonna be cooler but 673 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: still hot. If they're both cold, we've got low flow 674 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: or cooler. If they're both equal temperature, we've got low 675 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: flow through the core. You're with me, Pete, We've got 676 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: low flow through the core at that point before we 677 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: start replacing the core, Let's try back flushing it and 678 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: we can see if that gets anything. Where take the 679 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: two hoses off, put a tube up, dump it into 680 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: a bucket and see what that does, And then chase 681 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: the actuator and obviously looking at engine temperature and thermos 682 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: death the whole time. I mean, hey, wake out, I'm 683 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: on any in the car. Doctor. Mechanics are expensive there priceless, 684 00:36:53,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: see you se,