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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate Buck keeping the ship afloat yesterday as

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Speaker 1: we roll into what, for many of you will be

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Speaker 1: the last day before you head out all over the country,

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Speaker 1: potentially for Thanksgiving. I know the Travis family is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the road starting tomorrow to head all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and I know many of you will

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm going to try to bring you some

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Speaker 1: sanity and what is unfortunately becoming an even more insane world.

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Speaker 1: We've got all sorts of stories to track, but in

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Speaker 1: particular everything falling apart with the Israeli Palestinian relationship as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to the politics here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: to say nothing of what's going on in Gaza, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden not surprisingly sliding on his own classified documents issue.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss the latest on that this story happened yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: while you were while you were on the air, and

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Speaker 1: I happened to catch the thing trending on Twitter. Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball has returned the All Star Game to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: which effectively acknowledges that Jim Crow.

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Speaker 2: Two point zero was a complete lie.

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Speaker 1: And this story, to me, Buck, is emblematic of so

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Speaker 1: much that occurs in America today. And I actually saw

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Speaker 1: it as somewhat connected to COVID for those of you

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Speaker 1: who didn't know, and that maybe a decent number of

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Speaker 1: you out there Major League Baseball bought into. Remember Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden running around saying that the Georgia voting law wasn't

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Speaker 1: just Jim Crow, it was Jim Eagle. And he did

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Speaker 1: the speech trying to claim that this was the worst

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Speaker 1: thing basically that had happened to the country since the

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Speaker 1: Civil War, if I remember correctly, Buck, He tried to

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Speaker 1: say that anyone that was involved in this Georgia votvoting

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Speaker 1: bill was basically on the side of the Confederacy and

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Speaker 1: Jefferson Davis. And it was a really strange historical argument.

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Speaker 1: It's all why all of it was a lie. Stacey

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Speaker 1: Abrams and Joe Biden got the national media to buy

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Speaker 1: into the idea that by strengthening voting rules in the

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia that somehow black people were going to

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Speaker 1: be discriminated against. And this was a return to the

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Speaker 1: Jim Crow era South and this was going to be

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Speaker 1: totally unacceptable, and it became such a major narrative story

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Speaker 1: that Major League Baseball pulled the All Star Game out

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Buck then the twenty twenty two election happens.

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Speaker 1: There are zero issues with any black voters anywhere in

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Speaker 1: the state. They had I believe, record turnout in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two compared to the prior midterm in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And we know, unfortunately herschel Walker lost, the Reverend Rafael

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Speaker 1: Warnock won. Every other statewide office won comfortably by seven

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Speaker 1: or eight points by Republicans, including Brian Kemp, trouncing Stacy Abrams.

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Speaker 1: And now yesterday Rob Manford, the commissioner of Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 1: Star Game to Atlanta now for twenty twenty five. Well,

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Speaker 1: at the last moment, they had moved it to Denver,

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Speaker 1: and they had tried to say it was because they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't stand for voter disenfranchisement. And now they're coming back.

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Speaker 1: The law is still in effect, and there are no

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Speaker 1: consequences for Major League Baseball getting this completely wrong. For

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Speaker 1: everyone in the media who ran with this story as

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Speaker 1: being completely wrong, there's almost no acknowledgment of it at all.

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Speaker 1: And Buck what it ties in with me is there

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Speaker 1: is no actual consequences for significant things that people get

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Speaker 1: wrong when the facts develop and the truth comes out.

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Speaker 1: There's just a totally memory holding of stories like these

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Speaker 1: even in the first place. And it's just emblematic I

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Speaker 1: think of what we're seeing in so many facets of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't watched a baseball game in like

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Speaker 3: latest with MLB in terms of how woke it is

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Speaker 3: or how it stacks up against the other leagues. But

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Speaker 3: you know, to your point about the cowardice and consequences,

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Speaker 3: people don't executives who make these kinds of decisions really

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Speaker 3: at any corporation these days, you never get fired for

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Speaker 3: trying to bend the need of the wokeness. And so

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Speaker 3: as long as that continues, you're going to see more

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Speaker 3: them all the time, and that's why you have what

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Speaker 3: you have By the way, you know there are protesters

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Speaker 3: right now in you know Clay Clay works for Fox News.

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Speaker 3: I do not, Yes, Clay was at the Patriotard Jester edgewoo,

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Speaker 3: which'll tell us a little bit about later this hour.

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Speaker 2: But there are protesters in the Fox News lobby.

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Speaker 3: And what I just wonder is, what do they think

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Speaker 3: miserable malcontents who support terrorists. Like, I'm just wondering, what

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Speaker 3: really good? Do they think that someone's going to walk

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Speaker 3: into Fox News and be like, you know what, Bid Lawden.

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Speaker 2: Did have a point and Hamas isn't that bad?

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Speaker 3: Like what are these idiots doing other than just harassing

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Speaker 3: people basically because they're miserable.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, and the Patriot Awards were fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I know, I met a bunch of our listeners. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody who came out streamed on Fox Nation this show.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if this is public yet,

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Speaker 1: I might as well go ahead and say it. This

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Speaker 1: show will be streaming on Fox Nation behind the paywall

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Speaker 1: at Fox Nation for all three hours starting in the

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Speaker 1: next few months. So, by the way, if you're out

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Speaker 1: some reason, or you want for some reason to see

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Speaker 1: spectacular images video wise of you and me every day, you.

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Speaker 3: Want to see if Klayin Bucker having good hair days. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's not going to get any of you to watch.

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Speaker 3: I do have a puppy that I will have in

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Your puppy is one of the cutest puppies that I

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Speaker 1: have ever seen. Like, I'm very happy, I have to

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Speaker 1: be honest, like when we were just down in Miami.

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Speaker 1: But it actually goes beyond that buck because there's a

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Speaker 1: recent article talking about how many Jewish people are putting

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Speaker 1: on Fox News because Fox News is just pointing out

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Speaker 1: that Israel has the right to defend itself, and so

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Speaker 1: many left wing news organizations refuse to adopt that perspective.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think this is the best thing that

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Speaker 1: could happen to Fox News. Crazy Palestinian protesters showing up

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Speaker 1: in the lobby. You've been in that lobby a ton

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Speaker 1: of times. Their security all through there, so they're trespassing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll eventually do to get them out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're already gone, because I haven't seen an update recently.

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Speaker 1: But it just makes Fox looks super rational, and it

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Speaker 3: Well, this is like whatever, there's a conservative speech on campus.

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Speaker 3: I always say this, the best thing that can happen

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Speaker 3: is a bunch of blue haired, shrieking banshees show up

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Speaker 3: screaming about like fascism and white supremacy and you know whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because that video that then goes online is the best

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Speaker 2: Is insane.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, go see you know, go

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Speaker 3: see this speech by so and so right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing that is more helpful. And in the case

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Speaker 3: of Fox News, there's a cable news network that, after

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Speaker 3: Israel's nine to eleven, is generally approaching the issue in

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Speaker 3: editorial as a moment of moral clarity. Yes, and that

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Speaker 3: is Fox News. And Fox News stands with Israel and

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Speaker 3: the Jewish people after this attack, and of course after

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Speaker 3: all the anti Semitic protests that we've seen. Meanwhile, MSNBC

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Speaker 2: And it's not just MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw Buck Gail King with the father

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Speaker 1: too on CBS This Morning, which I think is a

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Speaker 1: somebody on a on a morning show and she's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, bad things are happening to Hamas too. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish there weren't awful things happening in the world.

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Speaker 1: I just want my kid back. And so you trying

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Speaker 1: to moral equival equivocate what's going on with Israel and

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Speaker 1: Hamas when my kid has been held hostage for two months.

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Speaker 1: To my knowledge, Buck, Israel has never had any Hamas

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Speaker 1: in the history of their existence as a country. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I've missed it. Maybe they're regularly grabbing infants and holding

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Speaker 3: But there's a million ways you can set up the

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Speaker 3: the the clear difference here.

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Speaker 2: You know, if a if a Heimas fighter, you know.

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Speaker 3: Was was wounded and surrendered on the battlefield and was

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Speaker 3: would commit Isis level horrific tortures, mutilation and murder. Yes,

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Speaker 3: these differences exist, They are real. This is not just

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Speaker 3: You know, you've seen people and there's a little less

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Speaker 3: be a Hamas would not take well to that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But but the race issue here is so the left.

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Speaker 3: It basically the left is so obsessed with race that

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Speaker 3: it almost can't you know, it's like when everything when

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Speaker 3: all you have is a hammer, you know, everything looks

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Speaker 3: racial lens that is entirely inapplicable and at best distorted when.

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Speaker 2: Applied to this conflict.

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Speaker 3: This isn't just you know, white people, brown people and

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Speaker 2: No, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And it is a failure of and I know you

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Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday, it is a failure of American

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Speaker 1: society that we have, to a large degree with kids

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Speaker 1: lost the ability.

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Speaker 2: To distinguish between good and evil.

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Speaker 1: And I think a big part of that is because

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Speaker 1: most of what kids experience in America is not in

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Speaker 1: the prism of good versus evil. Because most things that

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Speaker 1: you can have basically any sexual issue attraction in America

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Speaker 1: and have pretty good for you, right. And so I

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Speaker 1: think so many people have lost concept of what the

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this for a while. When this

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Speaker 3: Sexty which makes everyone ask the obvious question, why didn't

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Speaker 3: out of various precincts for decades in some cases, and

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Speaker 3: they would talk about the battle days in New York

439
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Speaker 3: in the early nineties.

440
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Speaker 2: That's actually when New York was that it's worse.

441
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: People think of New York in the seventies and it

442
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Speaker 3: was kind of this dystopian urban healthscape of decay, but

443
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Speaker 3: actually nineteen ninety ninety one was really the worst that

444
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Speaker 3: ever was. And they would say that they would arrest people,

445
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: and they would it would be the you know, one

446
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: hundredth arrest, and like, what do we do. We're supposed

447
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: to get this guy a cake. I me, he's supposed

448
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Speaker 3: to celebrate that he hit you know, one hundred. This

449
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: is insane. And think about how demoralizing that is, because

450
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: what it means is that the cops have got somebody.

451
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: They've arrested him. He's been arrested so many times. He's

452
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: clearly not changing his ways, clearly does not care about law,

453
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Speaker 3: you know, it does not fear the consequences of law enforcement.

454
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Speaker 3: The prosecutor who are supposed to be processing this individual,

455
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Speaker 3: and and you know, defending public safety are just like

456
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Speaker 3: a you know, like a turnstile in the subway which

457
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Speaker 3: nobody was paying for back in the day. And it's

458
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Speaker 3: just the whole thing starts to collapse and ever starts

459
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Speaker 3: to say what am I really doing? When you add

460
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Speaker 3: to that that cops can be prosecuted and and even

461
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Speaker 3: you know, lose their freedom for doing their jobs in

462
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Speaker 3: good faith because there's a video that's taken that shows them.

463
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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes cops are going to wrestle somebody to

464
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Speaker 3: the concrete and like that doesn't look that doesn't look pretty.

465
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Speaker 2: That's that's rough stuff.

466
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Speaker 1: But that is part of law enforcement, especially when bucket

467
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Speaker 1: can be a thirty second video that's part of a

468
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Speaker 1: four minute, five minute interaction, and they take the thirty

469
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Speaker 1: seconds and try to make look make it look like

470
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Speaker 1: it is not in the larger context in which.

471
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Speaker 2: It was occurring.

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Speaker 1: And look, remember that it was an awful story. The

473
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Speaker 1: guy who was murdered by Memphis police officers story vanished,

474
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Speaker 1: by the way. The who if you were comparing the

475
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Speaker 1: story of what was that guy's name in Memphis, who

476
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Speaker 1: who was clearly a victim of police violence, beaten up

477
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Speaker 1: by four or five different black police officers in Memphis,

478
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Speaker 1: you compare him to George Floyd, and you were looking

479
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Speaker 1: for someone who is actually the victim of police violence,

480
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Speaker 1: and you wanted somebody to be the face of it, it

481
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Speaker 1: would have actually been him. The problem was it was

482
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Speaker 1: black police officers doing it to him. So the story

483
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Speaker 1: almost completely vanished. I think the trials are coming up,

484
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Speaker 1: but nobody's really covering it. Yeah, And meanwhile that not

485
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Speaker 1: not only is Derek Schauvin's trying to fight his his

486
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Speaker 1: conviction on federal civil rights charges, and you know, there's

487
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Speaker 1: I had never seen this, you know, there's a training

488
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Speaker 1: his defense unless I'm unless I'm misreading this.

489
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Speaker 2: I saw this online.

490
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Speaker 3: Found a training slide of officers putting a knee on

491
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Speaker 3: the on the sort of the shoulder neck area in

492
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Speaker 3: that way to hold somebody down, and that basically the department,

493
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Speaker 3: Minneapolis department, at least, this is part of the defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Minneapolis departments like, oh no, we didn't teach that.

496
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Speaker 2: Actually they did. Yeah, actually they were teaching this.

497
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Speaker 3: As a restraint, and they just decided that that wasn't

498
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Speaker 3: that it was you know, misapplied in this case or

499
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Speaker 3: whatever the whatever it may be. And that George Floyd

500
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Speaker 3: died of heart failure, not of based on the coroner's report,

501
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Speaker 3: heart failure, not asphyxiation, yes, and had no damage to

502
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Speaker 3: his neck that would have been consistent with asphyxiation, and

503
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Speaker 3: had a lethal amount offensel in his system, you know,

504
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Speaker 3: and you talk about this and people started to get

505
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Speaker 3: very oh, they started to get very tense and very uh. Oh,

506
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Speaker 3: I don't know. If you just go online, you can

507
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Speaker 3: read this yourself. And Derek Chauvin's get got twenty years

508
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Speaker 3: in prison.

509
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Speaker 2: His life, his life.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Chauvin was convicted because the jury was

511
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Speaker 1: afraid of what would.

512
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Speaker 2: Happen if they didn't convict Derek Chauvin.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there's any doubt at all

514
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Speaker 1: about that, because implicit in the trial itself was the

515
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Speaker 1: threat of what violence would ensue if Derek Chauvin were

516
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Speaker 1: not held responsible. By the way, the Memphis individual who,

517
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Speaker 1: based on all the evidence, appears to have been totally innocent,

518
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Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols is his name, and the black police officers

519
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: have been charged and we'll see what happens in those trials.

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Speaker 2: I believe one of them has already pled guilty and

521
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Speaker 2: the video is horrific.

522
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Speaker 1: But because he was a victim of black police violence,

523
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Speaker 1: story vanished. If that had been five white Memphis cops

524
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Speaker 1: beating the crap out of Tyree Nichols, would there would

525
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: be statues of Tyree Nichols everywhere instead of George Floyd.

526
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: There would have been riots for probably a month all

527
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Speaker 1: over the country. But because he was a victim of

528
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Speaker 1: black violent police officer behavior, apparently based on the video,

529
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Speaker 1: just totally vanishes. But this has led to further lawlessness

530
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Speaker 1: all throughout Memphis, and innocent people, white, Black, Asian and

531
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Speaker 1: Hispanic are bearing the brunt of those crimes. I know

532
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Speaker 1: a lot of people who have moved out of Memphis.

533
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Speaker 1: A lot of people who live in my area of

534
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Speaker 1: Tennessee are Memphis natives. You talk to them, they say,

535
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Speaker 1: if you have the ability to leave, you try to leave,

536
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: because if you've got a young family, the worst thing

537
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: that could happen is they become an innocent victim of

538
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Speaker 1: violence and you sit around for the rest of your

539
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Speaker 1: life saying, why did I stay here when I could

540
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Speaker 1: have taken my family somewhere safer, Which is just an

541
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Speaker 1: awful situation to be in. I want to tell you

542
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Speaker 1: all about. We did a show yesterday the Patriot Awards.

543
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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with Frank Siller, and

544
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Speaker 1: they have named now at the Patriot Awards a Steven

545
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Speaker 1: Siller Award for everybody out there who is trying to

546
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Speaker 1: do good, whether you're a police officer, whether you're a

547
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Speaker 1: member of first responders, whether you're an officer in the military,

548
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Speaker 1: whether you are serving your country, whatever you're doing to

549
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Speaker 1: try to make it better for people out there. Frank

550
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Speaker 1: Siller's trying to make things better for you. Now his

551
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: new push is to try to get as many homeless

552
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Speaker 1: veterans off the streets as he possibly can.

553
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Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I am blown away by.

554
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Speaker 1: How phenomenal the work that Frank Siller and Tunnel to

555
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Towers is doing. More important than ever as you see

556
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: viral awfulness like the response to Osama bin Laden's letter

557
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: spread throughout young America. It's more important than ever before

558
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Speaker 1: to remind people what happened twenty two years ago and

559
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Speaker 1: what true evil is. And we've got to continue to

560
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Speaker 1: honor people like Bristol, Connecticut police Sergeant Dustin Demanti. After

561
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Speaker 1: responding to a domestic violence incident, he sustained fatal gunshot wounds.

562
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Speaker 1: He left behind his expectant wife and two kids. Thanks

563
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: to the generosity of people like you, Tunnel the Towers

564
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: paid the mortgage on the Demante family home, lifting a

565
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Speaker 1: financial burden. I got to give you an update. You

566
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Speaker 1: probably heard about the tragic loss of life in the Mediterranean.

567
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Speaker 1: Five different military members believe it was a helicopter a

568
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Speaker 1: crash lost their lives starting a Frank Siller. They've already

569
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Speaker 1: tracked now, you know, and his family that is the

570
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Speaker 1: Ramonders already taken more. I saw you last night, Raymond

571
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Speaker 1: at the faculty away.

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Speaker 2: I thought they did a really good job.

573
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Speaker 1: Also that wife don't share the more generosity of people.

574
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Speaker 1: You have a new book given their every single day

575
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Speaker 1: to try to make his country that had and for

576
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Speaker 1: as little as eleven dollars had one ure can take

577
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Speaker 1: care of the people on this family obviously.

578
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Speaker 2: Or that the number one the youngest the Lincoln boys.

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Speaker 5: If I heard that learn was.

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Speaker 1: Living in the white Wood Club, was mom Lincoln?

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Speaker 5: For years covered the White House turkey part in which

582
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Speaker 5: people will remember you see it on TV. Al Yeah,

583
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Speaker 5: they bring two birds out. Brden will will no doubt

584
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Speaker 5: pardon the bird or whoever's in the audience. I guess

585
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Speaker 5: he doesn't know, but assuming he follows protocol, they bring

586
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: two turkeys out, he pardons one of them or both

587
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: of them. I didn't realize what the origins of this were,

588
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: and years ago somebody in the Trump White House told

589
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: me it was JFK Or Truman who started the tradition.

590
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: So I did a deep dive and discovered no, it

591
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: was Tad Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln. And the backstory was

592
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: so moving to me. And it really is about how

593
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Speaker 5: a child allowed to be a child and be a

594
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Speaker 5: boy and knock things over and have mishaps and create mischief,

595
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 5: which Tad Lincoln did in the White House. He would

596
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: hitch a goat to a dining room chair and gallop

597
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 5: through the east room. He dug up the rose garden.

598
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Speaker 5: All of that's in the book. But it really is

599
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 5: about how a child has the capacity to save a

600
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: father in many ways. And it's about how Tad Lincoln

601
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: was the touchstone of normalcy and joy in a healthscape

602
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 5: that Lincoln was living in, literally with a war crowding

603
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 5: around him and a child when he just lost in

604
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Speaker 5: the White House. It's a story of finding hope in

605
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 5: dark places and finding light even where you least expect it,

606
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: right in your family. And I thought this was a

607
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Speaker 5: story worth telling and the historic moment that we've lost

608
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Speaker 5: sight of because people don't realize where that turkey pardon

609
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 5: came from?

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Speaker 2: Well, can you tell us? Let me by the way,

611
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: when you talk about the turkey pardon?

612
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Speaker 3: Not my brain now always goes to build the blasio

613
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: with Ponkstani.

614
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Speaker 2: Phil the gopher that he dropped and killed killed him.

615
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the worst mayor of New York ever killed the

616
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Speaker 3: gopher for Groundhog Day, and I think it was a

617
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Speaker 3: metaphor for what he was.

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Speaker 2: Doing to New York City. I'm just putting that out there.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, well, thank goodness, mister Lincoln had a better

620
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Speaker 5: track record. I'll tell you the quick story and the

621
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Speaker 5: book The Magnificent Mischief of Tad Lincoln captures this. And

622
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Speaker 5: I don't consider these children's books. I consider them family

623
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Speaker 5: reads because they're written for the whole family to encounter together,

624
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: and adults will learn as much or more than the kids.

625
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: But what happened is when Willie, the middle son of

626
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Speaker 5: Abraham Lincoln, dies in the White House, Tad Lincoln and

627
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 5: Abraham Lincoln become inseparable. He takes his son to review

628
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: the troops. He goes with him to Richmond after the war.

629
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Speaker 5: Tad sleeps next to his father and watches him give

630
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Speaker 5: pardons to all these people who come to the White

631
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Speaker 5: House asking for forgiveness, and he absorbs the lesson well.

632
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Speaker 5: As Christmas approaches, a turkey is brought to the White House.

633
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Speaker 5: Tad befriends the turkey, puts it on a leash, teaches

634
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Speaker 5: it tricks, and then Christmas Eve comes and the White

635
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: House chef collects Jack the bird and takes him to

636
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: the kitchen. Tad Lincoln totally freaks out, grabs the turkey,

637
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: runs upstairs to his father in tears, and begs him

638
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: to extend a pardon to his bird, to his turkey,

639
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: and Abraham Lincoln gives his son Tad that pardon. That

640
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: is the first White House turkey pardon and the beginning

641
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 5: of this beautiful national tradition. But you know, when I've

642
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 5: seen it for years, it's kind of a goofy affair.

643
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: Now you realize the backstory, and it really is a study,

644
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: and it's an insight into Lincoln's mind. He saw Thanksgiving,

645
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: which Lincoln put on the calendar, by the way, as

646
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 5: a national holiday in eighteen sixty three, the same year

647
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Speaker 5: he pardons Tad's turkey. He saw it as a time

648
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 5: of forgiveness, mercy to those in your family and community,

649
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Speaker 5: and leading to a source of unity for the country. Boy,

650
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Speaker 5: do we need that today, guys?

651
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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, is that the first? Is that the

652
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Speaker 3: first ever time I've never heard of somebody having a

653
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Speaker 3: pet turkey before me?

654
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Speaker 5: Neither, No, I didn't but apparently, you know, I guess

655
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Speaker 5: when the poor boys alone in the house, it was

656
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Speaker 5: the goat and the turkey that arrived that was it.

657
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Speaker 5: So he took what he had and used it. But

658
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Speaker 5: the fact that he trained the thing put it on

659
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Speaker 5: a leash, and by the way, that turkey would continue

660
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Speaker 5: to live with the Lincolns for another couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: But you'll never look at a Chris, You'll never look

663
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Speaker 5: at a thank skipping turkey in quite the same way.

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Speaker 5: It just helps put I love origin stories, I mean,

665
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Speaker 5: and this whole musical adventure I've been on. I dug

666
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Speaker 5: into all of these Christmas carols and discovered the backstories

667
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Speaker 5: of them, and it just blew my mind. We totally

668
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Speaker 5: misunderstand so much of the things that we just take

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Speaker 5: for granted and do.

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Speaker 1: Give us an example on a song that we don't

671
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Speaker 1: understand that everybody will have heard that we play all

672
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Speaker 1: the time during Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Well, the biggest one, the most popular song of Christmas

674
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Speaker 5: probably jingle bells. How many times have we heard jingle

675
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: bells are sung it ourselves and you think, oh, this

676
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 5: is a happy Christmas song about bells ringing in the snow.

677
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Speaker 5: Right wrong? James Lord Pierpont wrote the song. He wrote

678
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Speaker 5: it in a tavern, guys, and it was in the

679
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Speaker 5: eighteen sixties eighteen fifties. A bar made a test that

680
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Speaker 5: he wrote it at a tavern he was swilling down

681
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Speaker 5: the rum that they made in Medford, Massachusetts. But here's

682
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Speaker 5: the deal. When he snowed in Medford down main Street,

683
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Speaker 5: they would drag race slaves down the middle of town.

684
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Speaker 5: So and this guy, James Lord Pierpont, was a notorious

685
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Speaker 5: skirt chaser. He ran after women no matter where he traveled.

686
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Speaker 5: When you break the song down, when you realize the

687
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Speaker 5: context and you look at the lyrics anew, you realize

688
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Speaker 5: it is really a girl chasing, drag racing, drinking song.

689
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry to report that that's what it is. So

690
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Speaker 5: when I went into the studio with Kevin Costa, the

691
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Speaker 5: guy who arranged The Greatest Showman and Jungle Book and

692
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Speaker 5: Lion King for Disney, he rearranged all these songs, and

693
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Speaker 5: we used that research to govern the direction in which

694
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Speaker 5: we would proceed, both in arrangements and my performance on

695
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Speaker 5: the album. So Our jingle Bells is a little randy,

696
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Speaker 5: It's a little bumpy and wild, but it gives new context.

697
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: And look, it's not all that. There's some tender songs.

698
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Speaker 5: I Heard the Bells, which was written by Longfellow. He

699
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Speaker 5: lost his wife just before Christmas. His son came home

700
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Speaker 5: from the Civil War nearly paralyzed, and he hears bells

701
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 5: down the street and it gives him. I hope he

702
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: finds new life in the hope of those bells and

703
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: what they promise. And then he wrote this poem, I

704
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: heard the Bells on Christmas Day, their old familiar carol's play.

705
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: And it goes on and on. But we tried to

706
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Speaker 5: capture all the emotions of Christmas, but restore these songs

707
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Speaker 5: to their real context, their real origins. And you know,

708
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: it's both carols that have been with us for centuries

709
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Speaker 5: and even modern classics. Jose Feliciano, Jose, can we do

710
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Speaker 5: a Boston over treatment of the song? He agreed to

711
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Speaker 5: do that. We did it on the album. It's been

712
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Speaker 5: at the top of Billboard's charts for weeks and weeks,

713
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Speaker 5: and I'm just look, I'm delighted the audience. They obviously

714
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Speaker 5: hear something new here and yet something very familiar, And

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Speaker 5: I love that we're.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Raymond Arroyo about his book The Magnificent Mischief

717
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Speaker 3: of Tad Lincoln. And he's also got the album and

718
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Speaker 3: tour going on. Where can people go to learn more

719
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Speaker 3: about the tour if they want to see you in person?

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Speaker 5: Christmas, Mary and Bright is the name of the album.

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Speaker 5: The tour is happening. We open in Phoenix on November

722
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Speaker 5: twenty fifth, Thanksgiving weekend, then more in Dallas at the

723
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Speaker 5: House of Blues. Jose Feliciano is with me there. We

724
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Speaker 5: go to Tampa Cleveland, we end the tour play and

725
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Speaker 5: you're coming a buck. You have to come into town

726
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Speaker 5: for this tree the Ryman Auditorium December twenty first, Jose Feliciano,

727
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Speaker 5: the Big Band and me and we have special guest stars.

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Speaker 5: Go to Raymondarroyo Christmas dot com. Raymond Royo Christmas dot

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Speaker 5: com is the address. I cannot wait to see everybody there.

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Speaker 2: Sounds fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Can I just We've got all these people now are

732
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Speaker 3: going to be going to check out your tour dates

733
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Speaker 3: and buying your books.

734
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Speaker 2: But I want to cause some trouble for you. Raymond.

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Speaker 3: The best go ahead, the best and worst Thanksgiving sides,

736
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Speaker 3: and I'm I'm not.

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Speaker 2: We're not pulling any punches here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the best and worst, I think personally, the worst

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Speaker 5: is probably cranberry sauce.

740
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Speaker 2: I hang up on it, hang up on it.

741
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Speaker 5: I'm I like all the stuffing we have Oyster dressing

742
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Speaker 5: in New Orleans and Meloton dressing, odd things you probably

743
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Speaker 5: don't have elsewhere. So those are my favorite. My favorite

744
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Speaker 5: oyster dressing and Meloton dressing, which Meloton's kind of a

745
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Speaker 5: squash or green squash that grows in Bayou Country. But

746
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Speaker 5: I never you know, I like fresh cranberry sauce, but

747
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: so often it's that canned thing and it comes, you know,

748
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Speaker 5: it looks like a little power there.

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Speaker 3: We are losing our Cranberry sponsor right now, Clay.

750
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Speaker 1: We just endorsed Big Cranberry, and then you just come

751
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Speaker 1: on and just immediately decap that.

752
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Speaker 5: I loved it. I just I just I'm the form

753
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Speaker 5: of that, the solid gelatine form of that thing, like

754
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 5: a little barrel oil barrel there, a red oil barrel.

755
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Speaker 5: It kind of scares me, almost raining.

756
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Speaker 1: We had just won over Big Cranberry, and then you

757
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: just totally Tanya harding our Nancy Carrigan Cranberry dream here

758
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Speaker 1: just ran right in hit us right in the knee cap.

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Speaker 2: We're done.

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Speaker 5: If you put it in the middle of the stuffing,

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Speaker 5: particular particularly oyster stuffing. I'm sure I was hoping.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping that brow. What is it? What is

763
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Speaker 2: the one that they love in the South? Is it?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Green bean cash a role?

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Speaker 3: Is the Thanksgiving side that's so popular in the South

767
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Speaker 3: that doesn't exist anywhere else.

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Speaker 5: Naughty list. I don't like that, damn green bean casse.

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Speaker 1: I'm very anti green bean, so we're not gonna get

770
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Speaker 1: a green bean sponsorship. I think green beans probably the

771
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Speaker 1: most overrated of all the vegetable grip. I hate green

772
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Speaker 1: beans like I won't eat them now.

773
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Speaker 5: And the Christmas what do they call that? Stupid cake? Fruitcake? Right?

774
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Speaker 5: What do you call it?

775
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Speaker 2: I also anti fruitcake?

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Speaker 5: Oh? That stuff is like eating sawdust and grit. I

777
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: don't know what it is, but it's it's old. It

778
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Speaker 5: should never be consumed by human beings. Give that to animals.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to get on the holiday spirit, everybody,

780
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Speaker 3: check out Raymond's book and check out his tour. The

781
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Speaker 3: Magnificent Mischief of Tad Lincoln is the book that the

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Speaker 3: album One more time.

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Speaker 5: Raymond Christmas maryon bright go to Raymond Royal Christmas dot com.

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Speaker 5: All the details are there. Please come see me on

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Speaker 5: the road. We're gonna have a good time.

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Speaker 1: Happy Holiday, Christmas, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there as

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Speaker 1: we get ready to.

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Speaker 5: Roll in Harry, Christmas to both of you and everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: No doubt at all. Look we're talking about a holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Got Thanksgiving, you got Christmas coming up, New Year's everything

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Speaker 2: Maybe be you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you are also not particularly adroit adept at giving

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Speaker 1: the right gift, and you hate to be panicked and

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Speaker 1: running around on December twenty third, December twenty fourth to

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Speaker 1: You don't know what you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 1: could On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast

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Speaker 1: Yet the Holes with Bub Welcome back in Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show. This is and I saw him last

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Speaker 1: night at the Patriot Awards. Did you know Raymond de

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Speaker 1: Royo was a singer to Buck. He's on very frequently

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Speaker 1: with Laura Ingram, does nice comedic segments. Fun guy. He's

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Speaker 1: got a book out. We're gonna talk with him in

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Speaker 1: the next hour. Did you know he's saying I had

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Speaker 1: no idea that. An addition, he's a man of many talents.

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Speaker 1: He also sang I just.

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Speaker 2: Learned that myself. Sounds like he's got a very nice voice.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have him on in the third hour

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Speaker 1: of the program to hang out and have a have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fun there. But Buck, we're going

844
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Speaker 1: into Friday, maybe we'll also talk about this. You told

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Speaker 1: me that I had no idea, you said down, he said,

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up about cranberry sauce right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, big time. Interesting article in the Wall Street

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Speaker 3: Journal on cranberries. First of all, cranberry sauce very polarizing.

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Speaker 3: It's a once a year thing. Why is that? Like

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Speaker 3: why turkey and cranberry sauce? For most people like a

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Speaker 3: whole roast turkey, people say, oh, slice turkey, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: But in general, and Clay is a cold cut sky,

853
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Speaker 3: so he's probably a fan of turkey and cheese.

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Speaker 2: But correct.

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Speaker 3: Nonetheless, in general, you only do the big turkey once

856
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Speaker 3: a year, and you do the cranberry sauce once a year.

857
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Speaker 3: You don't see a cranberry sauce is a very seasonal item.

858
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Speaker 3: It's like pumpkin spice lattes. And what this article in

859
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Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal talked about is that ocean spray,

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Speaker 3: which you may know is the thing that makes like

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Speaker 3: cranberry juice that you drink as well as well as

862
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Speaker 3: cranberry sauce, is a farmer collective from the northeast of

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Speaker 3: the United States that's responsible for like a vast majority

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Speaker 3: of the cranberries out there. And this has just been

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Speaker 3: sort of a campaign for a long time to expand

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Speaker 3: cranberry into a year long fruit and not just a

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Speaker 3: once a year thing. And I'm wondering how you feel

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Speaker 3: about that. I mean, this should cranberry like, why don't

869
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: people put cranberry in their cranberries in their smoothies. Why

870
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 3: aren't people just throwing cranberry sauce on their you know,

871
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, on their lamb chops or something.

872
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I am all in on big cranberry. I got made

873
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: fun of this. I like all of it. I eat

874
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: crazins all the time. I order cranberry juice regularly. I

875
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: might have the best urinary tract on the planet as

876
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: a result, because I think that's supposed to be a

877
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: strong urinary health tract. My understanding, because I'm buying into

878
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: the big cranberry propaganda, may not even be true. I

879
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: would eat cranberries. I would eat them, you know, every week.

880
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with that. I don't know why. This

881
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: is just something that and I like the canned cranberries,

882
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: like the Ellie cranberry that may not be very healthy

883
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 1: for you, I don't know, but I love that too.

884
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm all in on cranberry so if we need it,

885
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: if we need an endorsement, Buck, I will be.

886
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: I will be the Cranberry emissary to America.

887
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: I do I think it should expand out, you know,

888
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: I think that there's more use for cranberry. I like

889
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: the tart sweetness of it too, you know, I think

890
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: it's a more complex flavor.

891
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: So people are gonna think that you and I just

892
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: got paid so much money by Cranberry's to to come

893
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: here full throated endorsement of.

894
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: Everyone listening to this.

895
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: I bet ninety ninety five percent are gonna have cranberry

896
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: sauce on the Thanksgiving True, it's like a requirement and

897
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: it just kind of came out of nowhere.

898
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: And why does it? Is a great question. Why there

899
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: are occasional foods. I mean peeps for instance for Easter, right,

900
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: the little the little peak thing show, So.

901
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: That's really a food.

902
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, sure, well yeah, but they don't exist year round.

903
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: What's the corn, the candy corn or whatever, it doesn't exist.

904
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: The Tebruary eggs, Why don't we know? That's a dasier round.

905
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 3: They're not exactly a health food but delicious last hour

906
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: of the week. Next we're gonna make the world better.

907
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: We're closing up shop here on Clay and Buck for

908
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: the weekend. Apparently, we just got a phone call in

909
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: Clay from a very nice woman who used to cut

910
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: my hair when I was in great school. So we

911
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: got an audience that listens, you know, stretching way back

912
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: when to coast to coast, all over the country, all

913
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: over the US, including back in my hometown of New

914
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: York City. Uh, yeah, her name was Your name is Kim,

915
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: Kim the hair addresser. Thank you for calling in. I

916
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: hope I always behaved well seated in the in the chair,

917
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: and uh, have you ever gotten to truly? I will

918
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: tell you I got when I moved to Miami because

919
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just gonna go to like one

920
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: of the local places here.

921
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could really tell.

922
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't even if people at home could really tell,

923
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: but it was one of the It was the worst

924
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: haircut I've ever gotten in my life. And it was

925
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: because they there's a very common thing here. I think

926
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: it's called I don't know if it's a fade or

927
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: they like shave around your head and then sort of

928
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: faded in to the rest of your hair. And I

929
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: basically like the back of my head six months ago.

930
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: Was effective. People couldn't see it when I went on

931
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: TV or whatever. But it was shaved like it was

932
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: almost all the way all the way down. It was

933
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: a very Miami haircut. So you do got to be careful.

934
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: You don't know what you're getting into.

935
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes my wife is still fired up about the haircut

936
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: I got for the day before our wedding.

937
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: You had some pretty funky haircuts back then.

938
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I had some wacky haircuts over the years, but my.

939
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: Time did you have this two were like like like

940
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: circa nineteen ninety eight where people started doing like long hair,

941
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: like guys did long hairs but center part and behind.

942
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: They'd put their hair behind that.

943
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did a lot of that ear tuck long

944
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: hair haartuck. Yeah yeah, yeah. My wife said, first of all,

945
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: she was like, don't get your haircut because I go

946
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: to and I'm probably gonna lose some more sponsors here somewhere.

947
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: I go a lot to like great clips, and you know,

948
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: like the I pay like twenty dollars for a haircut.

949
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't go to like fancy haircut places. Typically, I'll

950
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: just go into you know, mall plays Master cuts whatever

951
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: these places are called. And the day before my wedding,

952
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: I went, and my wife, if she were here right

953
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: now and grabbed the mic, would describe it as the

954
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: worst haircut that any groom has ever gotten in the

955
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: history of a wedding probably And it was a real

956
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: bowl cut, like the bowl cut that little boys get,

957
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, like when.

958
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: This website right didn't we actually didn't. We did find PHO.

959
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: My senior year class photo is is an exercise in

960
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: uh in in wackiness. The boys, my three boys, and

961
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: my wife at one point all had as their backdrop,

962
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, the picture on their on their iPads or

963
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: their screens, my senior year class photo. But this, uh,

964
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: this photo, the haircut that I got was awful. Her

965
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: mom went with me and we got back. She was like,

966
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: just how did you let this happen? Like what were

967
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: you thinking that you allowed this haircut to occur? So

968
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: all the all the wedding photos she considers to be

969
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: ruined because of my bowl cut.

970
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: That way, how is how is training your oldest son

971
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: to drive going? I have to tell you, uh it is.

972
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: It is maybe the most terrifying thing I've ever done

973
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: in my life as parent.

974
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Why did you just hire a driving instructor? First of all,

975
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how that works.

976
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: I think we do have a driving instructor, but he

977
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: has to have two hundred miles of instruction before the

978
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: driving instructor will take him. So we're in the process

979
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: of working our way towards two hundred miles and the

980
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: roundabout is terrifying. Also the number of people that will

981
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: be unhappy because we're not driving very fast, you know,

982
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: and they like drive by and you see him like

983
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: looking back at.

984
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: You and sort of got to get it.

985
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: Like a placard you can put in your rear window

986
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: that said student driver, you know, Yeah, it.

987
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: Would help because I'll look down he's like, man, Dad,

988
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: we're going really fast, and like we're going eighteen all right,

989
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: we're going eighteen miles an hour, buddy, you can step

990
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. But uh, but yeah, it's

991
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: it is the most nerve wracking thing I have done

992
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: as a parent. And I'm not even sure what they

993
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe the actual birth. Watching the actual birth the second

994
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: most nerve wracking, but the from a parenting perspective, this

995
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: is terrifying.

996
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell you puppy training is coming along.

997
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: It's really rough. The puppy wakes carry up every morning

998
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: at six o'clock in the morning to go play and

999
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: take it outside and stuff. I probably should take over

1000
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: some of that duty myself, but so far Carrie's been

1001
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: handling it.

1002
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: Not a surprise for anybody. She's much more on it

1003
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: than I am.

1004
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: But the problem with trying to train the puppy is

1005
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: that they're very cute and mischievous and they want to

1006
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: do things that you don't want them to do. But

1007
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 3: then they just look at you with the puppy eyes,

1008
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: play and then when it works. By the way, I'll

1009
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 3: be at Georgia, Tennessee for Big Noon