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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Vote counting is still going on, which is its own absurdity.

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Speaker 1: As we sit here nearly a week after mid term

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Speaker 1: voting officially took place, we can tell you that the

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Speaker 1: Senate is going to be in Democrat control. We can

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Speaker 1: also tell you that the House is almost certainly, almost

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Speaker 1: certainly going to be in Republican control with a three

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Speaker 1: four five seat margin ish. As all of these things

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Speaker 1: continue to work themselves out, and today is going to

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Speaker 1: be the beginning, I would say, of an overall analysis

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Speaker 1: of what happened. Where were the successes? Where were the failures?

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Speaker 1: We're going to open up phone lines. I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Buck off the air before we started today. I

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Speaker 1: come from the world of sports, and when there is

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Speaker 1: a big game on Monday, you typically open up the

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Speaker 1: phone lines after that big game and say, okay, react

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Speaker 1: and it can be man, our team played the best

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Speaker 1: game ever, or we played the worst game ever. You

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Speaker 1: gotta fire everybody, you gotta There's all sorts of reactions.

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Speaker 1: So eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two.

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Speaker 1: We only have one guest today. We will try to

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Speaker 1: work in a lot of your calls. We want intelligent,

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Speaker 1: reason passionate arguments about what you have seen and what

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Speaker 1: your analysis is for the election. I have spent way

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Speaker 1: too much time nerding out on the data, and I

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Speaker 1: know Buck has two and so I'm getting your text

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Speaker 1: messages at midnight, like, look at this breakdown by demographic

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Speaker 1: in Nevada. Anyway, keep going. I've got a bunch that.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of starred four things that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to slam home here from a day to perspective, and

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Speaker 1: we can discuss some of these in greater detail. But

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Speaker 1: I think there are several things that we need to discuss. First,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are going to win the overall nationwide vote by

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Speaker 1: millions of votes. Okay, So I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are missing this. When people say, oh, there wasn't

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Speaker 1: a red wave, there wasn't a red tsunami, that's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily accurate. The problem is it was not evenly distributed

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Speaker 1: across the nation, and there are many reasons for that.

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Speaker 1: The one that I would say I believe is going

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Speaker 1: to become more and more readily apparent in elections going forward.

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Speaker 1: Is COVID created a great national resorting. Many people finally

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Speaker 1: said I can't stay in this blue city or this

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Speaker 1: blue state, and you relocated, and that makes the blue

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Speaker 1: states oftentimes bluer. It makes the Red states redder. That

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Speaker 1: would explain how Ronda Santis wins by twenty But let

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Speaker 1: me tell you this, buck, because you're a New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: In the Wall Street Journal this morning, they pointed out

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Speaker 1: that Kathy hokel one reelection in New York by around

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six thousand votes. They also pointed

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Speaker 1: out five hundred and fifty six thousand people left to

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Speaker 1: New York in the past couple of years. Many of

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Speaker 1: those voters I would submit are likely to have been

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Speaker 1: read voters who, instead of casting their ballots in New

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Speaker 1: York might well have been voting in Texas or Tennessee

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Speaker 1: or certainly Florida, where massive numbers of red state denizens

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Speaker 1: have relocated. The other couple of things that I thought

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Speaker 1: were significant independence broke for the Democrats. This is in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal editorial this morning. Also, I've been

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Speaker 1: this is one of the things that I was sharing

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Speaker 1: but it was around fifty one forty nine. That means

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Speaker 1: that Democrats for people who were deciding at the last moment,

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Speaker 1: for people who were not fundamentally committed to one party

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Speaker 1: many of the toss up states. And finally, Buck last

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Speaker 1: little bit here that I wanted to hit. All of

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Speaker 1: the election deniers effectively lost. Everybody who was focused on

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty they lost their elections. There you go. That's

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Speaker 1: my big takeaways. So a few things. I mean the

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Speaker 1: fact that Republicans won the country in this mid term. Now,

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Speaker 1: there is no such thing as the popular vote. Democrats

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Speaker 1: always say this when they lose, because they often do

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Speaker 1: better in presidential elections in the popular vote. That's not

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Speaker 1: the contest we're running, right. It doesn't matter who's up

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Speaker 1: noteworthy that Republican enthusiasm nation wide was pretty tremendous, but

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Speaker 1: gotta get into some honest talk within the family, within

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Speaker 1: Clay brought up. People that made the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two election. That is now beyond dispute.

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Speaker 1: That is not something that anybody who looks at the data,

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Speaker 1: So we should going forward understand that focusing on the

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Speaker 1: previous election in this case, and I think in our

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of this, and look I've made

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Speaker 1: I've made some jokes about it too, and I want

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Speaker 1: to be very clear. I think that when it comes

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more than any Republicans do anywhere. That's

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Speaker 1: just that's my sense of it. That's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: I'd look at history books to make that case. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: the reality of these these title elections. Clay Laxalt lost

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Speaker 1: over the weekend in Nevada, which was a heartbreaker. Blake

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Speaker 1: Masters lost in Arizona over the weekend. This is why

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Speaker 1: we do not have Senate control. Will probably be okay

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Speaker 1: in the House, but we obviously should have had Senate control.

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Speaker 1: The reality of some of these in some of these

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Speaker 1: late counting, the late counting, it's cheating, if you actually

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Speaker 1: look at what's going on, They've set up the rules

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Speaker 1: so of course there will be late counting. Now is

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Speaker 1: there are there shenanigans happening in the late counting tbd,

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Speaker 1: But they knew they were going to be votes counted late.

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Speaker 1: just like the last one. The better framework for thinking

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Speaker 1: your point, about COVID, Clay and the movements that happened

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Speaker 1: and so Democrats spend a month saying, hey, hey, send

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Speaker 1: distract us from the central challenge of what has to

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Speaker 1: into cheating, absolutely that should be something that we focus

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Speaker 1: we don't fix it from being rigged Clay, this will

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Speaker 1: play out again in twenty twenty four. Everybody that I

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Speaker 1: the same stuff I was told, Buck, And one of

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Speaker 1: the most intriguing conversations I had was with an elected

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Speaker 1: official who said Democrats are far better now at micro

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Speaker 1: which they mean, hey, you usually don't vote, but we

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Speaker 1: know you care a great deal about abortion. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Low propensity single issue voters are being targeted far better

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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time thinking about why did

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Speaker 1: Why did which nobody really anticipated in the data didn't

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Speaker 1: This was not and those white college educated voters as

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Speaker 1: get mad at me. Donald Trump agreed to not just

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Speaker 1: emergency spending. Now Joe Biden, in a fit of lunacy,

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Speaker 1: There were trillions of dollars spent on Donald Trump's watch

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Speaker 1: keep trying to oh, by the the the gen Z bulge,

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Speaker 1: what this guy was doing. This Sam Bankman freed guy

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Speaker 1: is thirty years old, but you know he went to MIT,

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Speaker 1: He talked a good game, He made connections with the

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Speaker 1: right people, and no one ever thought to look under

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Speaker 1: the hood. I mean Sequoia Capital, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the most storied and supposedly savvy. It's been incredibly successful

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Speaker 1: in the past. They gave this guy two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: What are they giving them two hundred million dollars for

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Speaker 1: a crypto exchange online? I mean there's a lot like

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Speaker 1: they've never made sense. I think that there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of things that play here. One is, crypto is actually

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Speaker 1: pretty complicated, and people don't want to feel dumb. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people just follow whatever the herd is

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Speaker 1: saying when it came to crypto, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: even for actual intelligent people to say nothing of people

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Speaker 1: who are just you know, limmings and going to end

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Speaker 1: up following whatever the hottest investment is, whether it's these NFTs.

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Speaker 1: Remember when the non fungible token stuff was like everybody

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, you got to buy this board ape stuff.

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Speaker 1: People like people wanted me. They're like, I want you

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Speaker 1: to get involved with my NFTY. I no, thank you

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Speaker 1: across but no thank you. I mean, look, this is

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Speaker 1: a general rule for investing that people like Warren Buffett

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Speaker 1: will tell you. I mean, I'm not a good investor

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Speaker 1: and I have very little money. But if you can't

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Speaker 1: explain it and don't understand and it, don't invest in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because there's not a way that you can really understand

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Speaker 1: what the risk parameters and the upside are. I think

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened with crypto. And then the other

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Speaker 1: aspect of this is I'm sure this guy is very smart,

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Speaker 1: and he's able to make you think that he's so

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Speaker 1: much smarter than you are that what he's saying has

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Speaker 1: to be true when the reality is, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: whole thing is just a web of wise and the

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Speaker 1: deception goes deep. And basically we just got an old

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Speaker 1: fashioned run on the bank that they weren't prepared to

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Speaker 1: be able to handle. And people are also going to

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Speaker 1: start thinking about a famous guy from back in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, Charles Ponzi. Charles Ponzi had this whole idea.

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Speaker 1: He would promise investors a fifty percent return after an

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Speaker 1: investment in international mail coupons, and guess what he kept

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Speaker 1: bringing the new investors paid off some of the other investors.

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Speaker 1: But eventually the web expands, it expands, and the whole

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Speaker 1: thing collapses. It's basically what Bernie made off to right,

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Speaker 1: And I mean he was a Ponzi scheme, it just

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Speaker 1: as an investor instead of this. Well, actually no, Ponzi

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Speaker 1: was an investment scheme too. But the thing about the

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Speaker 1: crypto scheme here with this guy bankman Freed, is he

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Speaker 1: was buying up other crypto ASCID, other cryptocurrencies woul get

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Keep on anybody at home. It's not that

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Speaker 1: you could figure out a way to set up a cryptocurrency, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, people can make up cryptocurrency, it's not really

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Speaker 1: all that complicated. And that he would buy out these

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Speaker 1: other cryptocurrencies, and what the allegation is right now is

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Speaker 1: that he was doing this with investor money that was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be held in trust in the cryptos that

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Speaker 1: they thought they were buying. So that's a here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's why the risk, the counterparty risk, and the contagion

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Speaker 1: here again in the tens of billions of dollars. And

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Speaker 1: for those of you're like, oh, I don't care about

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Speaker 1: this stuff, whatever, just remember this is this guy. I've

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of people are talking about Ukraine. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen anything that's solid on that with Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: FTX and all this. If I see more, I'll come

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Speaker 1: causes and all the right left wing politicians. I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling that kept the regulators off his back quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. Not only that, Buck, how about the fact

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Turravis Buck Sexton Show. You may

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Speaker 1: remember this guest that we are about to talk to

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Speaker 1: you right now, Nolan Peterson, because he came to us

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Speaker 1: live from Ukraine right before the Russian Army invaded Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: He's a former Air Force Special ops pilot correspondent for

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Speaker 1: Coffee or Die magazine. Back now in the United States

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Speaker 1: for the first time in eighteen months, No one, We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you spending the time with us here. What can

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Speaker 1: you tell us about the situation on the ground in

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Speaker 1: Ukraine where we are headed, and what the experience has

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Speaker 1: been like for you over the last almost year since

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Speaker 1: this invasion started. Yeah, well, thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: on again. Um, it's been a hell of a year.

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Speaker 1: You know, there were many people like me who anticipated

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Speaker 1: the full scale invasion was going to happen, but you know,

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Speaker 1: still being a resident of a European capital and Kiev,

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Speaker 1: and to have been there and witnessed cruise missile strikes

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Speaker 1: on the city and to quite literally have the walls

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Speaker 1: of my apartment shaking from mortars and artillery just a

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00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: couple kiometers away from where I live was was really shocking.

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Speaker 1: But it's been absolutely remarkable to see how this country

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Speaker 1: has united around their their common defense. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, as an American, it's so inspiring to see

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Speaker 1: so many of my friends who you know, had no

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Speaker 1: affiliation to the military before the war, but volunteered to

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Speaker 1: take up arms and defend their country. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Russian defeat and the out of Kiev was a

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Speaker 1: major turning point in the war, and over the summer

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Speaker 1: and into the fall now we've seen the Ukrainians on

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Speaker 1: the offensive both in the eastern Harkiev region and just

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Speaker 1: recently over the weekend. I'm sure everybody's aware of the

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Speaker 1: news that Ukrainians took back Kirsan, which was the only

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Speaker 1: regional capital that Russia had seized at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the war, a city in southern Ukraine sort of near

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Speaker 1: the exit of the Nepro River into the Black Sea.

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Speaker 1: So Ukraine is on the march. I think morale is

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Speaker 1: relatively high among the troops, and I have to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, as Russia continues these long range cruise missile

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Speaker 1: on Kamakazi drone attacks against Ukraine's power grid, which has

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Speaker 1: made life pretty miserable in cities across Ukraine, including Kiev

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Speaker 1: where my wife and I live, and we're losing electricity

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Speaker 1: and heating going to the cold winter months, not to

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Speaker 1: mention just the terror of hearing cruise missiles and you

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Speaker 1: know Iranian shot head drones impacting near US quite often.

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Speaker 1: Living under that constant fear in that strain, I think

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Speaker 1: that this latest victory in Kisan is a real morale

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Speaker 1: boost for Ukraine's troops but also the civilians as they

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Speaker 1: look forward to what's probably going to be a very

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Speaker 1: very tough winter on the foot side of that, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, for Russia's military, which is largely being filled

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Speaker 1: up with reservists who've been basically press gained in service

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Speaker 1: our short of supplies and training, you know, the constant

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Speaker 1: advance of the Ukrainians is very detrimental, detrimental to the morale,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially since they're going to be sitting out

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Speaker 1: there in trenches and foxhols and below zero, very very

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Speaker 1: cold and miserable weather coming up. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: one more thing I mentioned too. Do you hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk about the possibility of a winter lull

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Speaker 1: in fighting, And from my perspective, you know, my communication

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Speaker 1: with Ukrainian troops, I anticipate that Ukraine's going to push

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Speaker 1: its advantage this winter and to keep up its momentum

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Speaker 1: and to keep hammering both to destroy Russian morales. It's

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Speaker 1: get back as much territory as they can. Well, they

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Speaker 1: have that battlefield advantage. Well, Nolan, we appreciate you being

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Speaker 1: with us and thanks for coming back. We talked to

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Speaker 1: you the very beginning of this conflict and now we're

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Speaker 1: glad you're safe on on us soil for the meantime.

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Speaker 1: But obviously it has been a very difficult, to put

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Speaker 1: it mildly year for the Ukrainian people. What do we

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Speaker 1: know about the scale of Russian losses and what do

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Speaker 1: you think the Russian endgame is here? I mean, given

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Speaker 1: that it doesn't seem an even thinks they're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to take the whole of the country of

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Speaker 1: Ukraine over there. They're on the defense right now and

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Speaker 1: losing ground. As you say, So where where is this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, first off, how has this affected the Russian

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Speaker 1: military in terms of scale and where do you think

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Speaker 1: this is going? Yeah, well, I think you know the

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Speaker 1: Russian you know, at least their invasion force in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: has been fall intents and purposes decimated um and I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, from just a logistical standpoint, Rush's

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Speaker 1: ability to conduct any offensive operations, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: next six to nine months or years probably almost nothing.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be on the defenses. And you know,

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Speaker 1: not just when it comes to their ability that mustard

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Speaker 1: troops and military hardware, but also the morale of those

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Speaker 1: troops like I just mentioned, you know, many of those

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Speaker 1: many of the the you know, the ranks of the

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Speaker 1: Russian units are being filled by this reservists who don't

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Speaker 1: want to be out there. Um, they have little to

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Speaker 1: no training, they're not getting enough equipment. So I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, for the Ukrainians right now, it's in

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Speaker 1: their interest to keep going to push as far as

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Speaker 1: they can. And for for Russia, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: going to boil down to a political decision in Moscow

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Speaker 1: about how can you know Tip sort of tap danced

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Speaker 1: their way out of this, I think my perspective, but

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Speaker 1: can I can? I you only know we've obviously given

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Speaker 1: a lot of material weapons, finances, financing to Ukraine in

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Speaker 1: this conflict the American people have do you get a

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Speaker 1: lot of I mean, are Ukrainians like just very thankful

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Speaker 1: to America? I mean you get people kind of come

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Speaker 1: up to you like, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 1: people have done here? Or has it not really come up? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's I feel like a rock star walking around, especially

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Speaker 1: as an American veteran who served interact in Afghanistan. I

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Speaker 1: wish every American had the opportunity to go to go

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Speaker 1: to Ukraine and speak to people in the streets. And

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00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: my father in law is a veteran of the Soviet

647
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: military and he has tears in his eyes every time

648
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: he talks to me. He's so thankful that we saved

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: their country. You know, this post Soviet society, you know,

650
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: with a generation of young people who braved sniper's bullets

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: in them to overturn a corrupt pro Russian regime. They

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00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: want to live in a democracy. They look to America

653
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: as they're ideal for what they want to achieve in life.

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: And we're enabling that to happen. And we're going to

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00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: have an incredible ally for the rest of our lives

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: in Ukraine because of what we've done there, and I

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: think that's something that we should all be proud about. Moreover,

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: when you look at Carson from more military standpoint, the

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: troops who fought to liberate her Son are extremely grateful

660
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: for the US weapons because those high mars allowed the

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00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: Ukrainians to pummel the Russians supply depots and logistics hubs,

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00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, the bridges across the Nepro River, and it

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: allowed the Ukrainians to take back her Son without laying

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00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: siege to the city. You know, the way that Russians

665
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: have advanced is they just blast everything ahead of them

666
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: and lay you know, just basically level cities to occupy them.

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: But the Ukrainians are able to fight smart and saved

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00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: Cizilian casualties, to save their infrastructure because they're to use

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Speaker 1: these precision weapons very well to advance and ultimately the

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00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: war is going to be a lot shorter and it's

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00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: going to create a lot less civilian deaths because Ukraine

672
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: has the ability to start smiling, to fight smartly and precisely.

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: And so I think that you know, the influx of

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: US weapons, some have argued that that is prolonging the war,

675
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: but I would argue the exact opposite. I mean, Ukraine

676
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: has advanced weaponry and they're using that to great effect

677
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: to bring the war to a victorious end from their perspectives,

678
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: at a much lower costs and susion civilian casualties. No

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00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: one quickly here to close. What is the timeframe of

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00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: a resolution of some sort here. You can correct me

681
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but we're sitting probably as we move

682
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: into fall and winter there, it's less likely there's going

683
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: to be advanced military operations because of snow and the

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: difficulty of moving troops and material and everything else. Where

685
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: are we going as we come closer to another their spring?

686
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: When does this end? Well, I actually think the Ukrainians

687
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: are probably not going to have a law and fighting

688
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: this winter. There might be some slight law if they're

689
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: trying to reconstitute their literal logistics. And now they face

690
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: pretty formable Russian defensive line along to the eastern bank

691
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: of the Nipa River. But I think, you know, it's

692
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: definitely Ukraine's interest to keep going right now, to get

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Speaker 1: as much land as they want. You know, at some point,

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00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I think, you know, every almost every war ends, and

695
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, the two sides deciding sitting down at the

696
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: table and deciding at the end of the conflict. But

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00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: I think an important, you know, idea for Americans to

698
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: remember is that when it comes to Ukraine's thinking about

699
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: an end of this war, it's not about lines on

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00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: a map. Most Ukrainians really don't care about the territory

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00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: that they want to get back, you know, after hearing

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00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: all these stories and I personally saw you know, the

703
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: mass graves and the civilian dead in Buscha and are peeing,

704
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, these outlying parts of Key or Russian's massacre

705
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: many civilians, you know, for Ukrainians, but they see those

706
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: lines on the map, is that sort of the leading

707
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: edge of Russia's invasion, and they know that behind that

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00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: or millions of Ukrainians who are living under oppression, they're

709
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: being raped and tortured and murdered, and they don't want

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: to consign millions of their fellow citizens that sort of

711
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: barbaric occupation. And so it's going to be really really

712
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: difficult for President Zelenski of Ukraine as well as for

713
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: many Ukrainian citizens to come to terms with Russia occupying

714
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Speaker 1: any of their land. And you see recent polling puts

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00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Ukrainians national among civilians, their support for you know, continuing

716
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: the war until they get all their territory back like

717
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: well over eighty percent. So you know, it's you know,

718
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Speaker 1: the future of any war is really hard to predict

719
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: because it's contingent on so many things. But I would

720
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: say at least for the near term, we can expect

721
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: to see Ukraine continuing to get back as much territory

722
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: and liberate as many as of its citizens as possible

723
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: whole and by the way, while they enjoy the continued

724
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: support of the West, because they probably understand that, you know,

725
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: maybe that support won't last forever and they need to

726
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: try and win this war as quickly as they can. Nolan,

727
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: where can people go to read your dispatches and your

728
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: pieces from Ukraine. Where you've been covering this war from

729
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Coffee Orde dot com. So it's the

730
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Speaker 1: military news magazine run by the Black Rifle Coffee and

731
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of great, great reporters. A lot of

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: them are are veterans, so m Yeah, it's been a

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00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: great prillage of mine to be there these past nine

734
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Speaker 1: months and for the last eight years to report on

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00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: this war. And yeah, as for some as an American

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: who lives in Ukraine, I'm so grateful because you know,

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Speaker 1: the American Tact tax dollars saved my life to giving

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's the Ukrainians the ability to defend themselves in their

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Speaker 1: capital city. Thanks Nolan, we appreciate your Hopefully talk to

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Speaker 1: with us. Continue to open up the phone lines, take

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Speaker 1: your calls in the final hour as well. One eight

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Speaker 1: topics people are weighing in on as we react to

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Speaker 1: the close of the election, even though it's still going on,

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00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: and we should say a lot of different media sources

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00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: are starting to tweet out that Republicans have officially won

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Speaker 1: the House. Now, there still are seats that are outstanding.

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00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: I think we're still two or three away officially from winning,

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00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,399
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00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,879
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00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,880
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00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680
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00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: while we're disappointed about how the Senate went, in particular

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: that race in Pennsylvania, which is the only flipped Senate

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00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: seat so far, and we should mention virtually every statewide

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00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: incumbent one except for Lombardo, managed to win in Nevada. Otherwise,

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00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: almost no one who is in office already running for

786
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: reelection lost Democrat or Republicans. So that's the latest there, Buck.

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Speaker 1: You had a scooter story. You had a Yeah, I

788
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: just you know, I like to look for the little things,

789
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, every day. It's about getting it right, Clay.

790
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: It's about how your spouse or my case, your fiance

791
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: greets you at the door. It's about the sunshine on

792
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: your face out when you're in your elevator and you're

793
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: you're standing there with your scooter. It's all charged up,

794
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: it's a lovely day outside and you're about to go

795
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: out on your scooter. And who gets on the elevator

796
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: but somebody else with a scooter. And now it's like, well,

797
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I've got my scooter squad now in the elevator. You know,

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00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: guy's probably about my age, and he looks at me.

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Speaker 1: He actually has. He had like a German accent. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why you have a lot of internationals in

801
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Speaker 1: my building. And he goes, he goes, yeah, he goes,

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00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: what kind does that one? And I was like, oh,

803
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: it's like a call to whatever. And he goes, he goes,

804
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: tell you this is true. He goes how fast does

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00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: it go? And I was like, oh, mine goes about

806
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: fifteen miles an hour? And he looks at me and

807
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: he goes, what's the point of zat? Mine goes thirty.

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00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just got scooter shamed by another scooter rider,

809
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: like well, you know, it's it's like he pulled up

810
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: in a Ferrari and it's like, excuse me in your

811
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, in your lemon from What was your response

812
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: to that? When he said what's the point to go?

813
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: In fifteen? I was just I just this was so hurt.

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00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: I didn't even really say anything. It was really you know,

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00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: I thought this was like this was like a very

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00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'd look, I know, it's not

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00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: two guys pulling up in their Harley's looking at each

818
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: other like it's gonna you know, but I thought there

819
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be some East scooter unity here not not

820
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: to be had. Sorry, it's like, what's the points of that.

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00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, fifteen miles an hours pretty fast. I mean,

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00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: the only thing that's in the next step here, you're

823
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna see like, you know, your fiance hanging on his

824
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: back as he goes zoop and by rough, you know,

825
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: it's probably he probably wears a scarf and drinks little

826
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: espressos on his scooter, like as his scooter is like

827
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: that next level, you know. So anyways, like I said,

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00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys who get made fun

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00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: of for having sports cars and uh uh and I saw,

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00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, you're trying to cover up for

831
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: yourself or whatever in the more aggressive the sports car

832
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, Labborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, whatever it is. They're obviously

833
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: super expensive. And I saw one guy getting interviewed as

834
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: is recently and uh and and they were like, well,

835
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people think that you're, you know,

836
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: trying to pick up girls. You know, you're trying to

837
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: cover up for yourself by having these high end sports cars,

838
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: Like why do you have it? And he's like, because

839
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: it works. Like women are still impressed evidently by the

840
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: fast sports car. So so maybe the women are also

841
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: impressed by the fast scooter. You should have asked him

842
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: why he felt the need to go thirty Maybe I

843
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: could get like some tiny nitrous tanks and attached them

844
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: to my east scooter, although I guess that would only

845
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: work with a combustion engine. But I know you would

846
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: die if you got an accident on a thirty mile

847
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: an hour scooter, right, I mean that would be like

848
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: debilitating injuries. Oh yeah, No, I mean the actual I

849
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: remember reading about this, the actual data on accidents in general,

850
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: but accidents specifically. That because speed is the biggest single

851
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: determinant of the act of outcomes with these things. Obviously,

852
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a pedestrian, which is basically the

853
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: case if you're you know you're gonna be without any

854
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: protection around you. The pedestrian who gets hit going under

855
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: twenty five miles an hour usually survives a pedestrian who's

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Speaker 1: hit five car going over thirty five miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are the odds are not good, so makes

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Speaker 1: a big difference. More good news from the courts as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to Joe Biden's proposed student loan bailout. This

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Speaker 1: is just breaking from the Eighth Circuit. Well, I'll go

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Speaker 1: ahead and tell you they have stopped Biden's student loan

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Speaker 1: bailout problem in the Eighth Circuit as well, joining that

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Speaker 1: district court judge down in Texas. This is going to

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Speaker 1: go to the Supreme Court, where I suspect it will

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Speaker 1: be struck down, just like we told you the day

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Speaker 1: he signed it would likely happen. Buck. It turns out,

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Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of the Democrat commies, the Constitution

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Speaker 1: is still a thing, still a thing, Thank the Lord.