WEBVTT - Bills By The Numbers: What Has Training Camp Revealed So Far? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Welcome to another edition of Bills By the Numbers. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:03.640 You know what we do here. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:05.320 We let the stats tell you where the Bills are 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.960 at coming up? What has one week of training camp 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.000 revealed about the players on offense and defense? Does anyone 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.760 stand out who must still do more to ensure a 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:18.479 spot on the roster? And we'll have our one burning question. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:38.120 Anyone have an extra umbrella? Glad you could stop and 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.440 see us here on Bills Buy the Numbers. He is 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.440 Bill's Wall of Famer Steve Tasker on Bills played by 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.880 playman Chris Brown. And we're a week into training camp 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.720 and while all the answers haven't quite come into focus, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.440 we do have some evidence to work with concerning Buffalo's 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.120 roster of talent. First and foremost the offense, which was 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.160 the main constant heading into the first season under Joe Brady. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.640 It has relied answers at quarterback, running back, offensive line, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.319 tight end, receiver is where the new investments were made. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.880 Thoughts on DJ Moore through the first week. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:18.040 It's exciting. He's been as consistent and as good as 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.039 anybody on the field. And it's exactly I don't know 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.840 that you could have scripted it going any better for him. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:32.080 He's been available, He's and I mean to Josh, he 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.280 has been open, productive, and he's been a big part 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.119 of what the offense has done and when they've thrown 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.960 the football. So I think on all counts, you've got 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.560 to be really optimistic about where the regular season could go. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.880 Yeah, and we haven't even gotten to preseason games yet, 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.920 but I think if these performances in these training camp 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:58.000 practices are any indication, the Bills may have very capably 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:04.120 filled the number one on this team, maybe for the 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.240 first time since Stefan dig left. That was the intention 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.720 of the trade pulled off by Brandon Bean, and it 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.880 looks like it is going to come to fruition. Everybody 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.200 knock on wood right now to make sure that it happens. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.680 Is there another offensive player you would point to and 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.360 say job well done? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:22.320 First week? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.080 I'd say Kincaid. I mean, you want him to stay healthy. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.040 He took a couple of shots, got up and is 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.119 and has shaken it off. He looks stronger. He's having 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.520 a really solid camp. You need him to have a 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.920 really solid camp. His availability is crucial I think for 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.240 the for the big picture, and he's played exactly like 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.360 we thought he would. Still catches the ball extremely well, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:51.600 gets open extremely well. His counterbalance to what we just 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:57.480 spoke about with Dj Moore, I think is almost indispensable. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.040 If they want to do everything they want to do 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.160 this year, he's got to be available and he's got 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.800 to be exactly the kind of player he's shown in 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:03.280 this camp. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.919 Yeah, I've got a couple of guys that I'm encouraged by. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.040 Joshua Palmer is one. I think he is moving and 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.240 running routes and getting yards after catch in the way 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.800 I think we all anticipated he would when he first 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.960 came to the team last year. Again, I don't know 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.600 what it's gonna look like when we get to the 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.720 regular season, let alone the preseason, because we don't know 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.800 what the back half of the pecking order is going 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.880 to be yet at the receiver position. But there have 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.840 been some early signs there that I feel are more 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.400 encouraging than the ones we saw in training camp last 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.600 year when he was new on the scene. Maybe that's 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.600 a byproduct of being a full year in the system. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.520 Maybe it's a byproduct of him actually feeling healthy for 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.280 the first time in about eight months. But I think 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.960 we've seen some positive steps from his game, and then 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.960 Ty Johnson, I think we all respect the role that 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.920 he has on this team as the quote unquote designated 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:07.680 third down back. I just think he's still underrated because 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:13.520 I just feel the versatility of his game is so valuable. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.120 Because James Cook cannot be depended upon to do everything 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.880 at the running back position. And we've heard Joe Brady say, 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.120 and we've had we actually had him on our show 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.719 on One Bill's Live right at the tail end of 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.240 training camp and we didn't even get this cover this 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.560 ground with him. But he has even said in earlier 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.360 parts of the offseason that he would like to get 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.480 Ray Davis and Ty Johnson a little bit more involved 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.120 after James kind of carried the load and then some 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.320 I mean three hundred and six carries last year. I 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.640 think in reviewing all of that, as great as James was, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.080 I think he would because I think he values the 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.479 contributions that Davis and Johnson in particular could make that 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.000 he wants to try to find ways to incorporate them more. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.120 Yeah, it's not that James Cook can't be relied upon 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.520 or can't be trusted to do everything. It's he shouldn't 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.880 be because you don't wear them out. Yeah, it's it's 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.640 asking for him to be unavailable on for a stretch 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.839 of games. I mean, he's gonna You're just just too physical. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.000 So you know, you want to be able to lighten 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.279 the load on him and Ty Johnson. If you're looking 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.640 at Ty Johnson or Ray Davis and if those if 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.800 those two guys, if they were four low four four guys, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.800 they would be number one backs in the NFL. I 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.599 mean they're just that good. Ty Johnson is really versaally. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.320 He catches the ball extremely well, runs routes extremely well, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.920 and he runs with it really well. But you got 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.720 James Cook, who's, you know, the most dynamic athlete on 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.000 the offense and proved it last year. You're trying to 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.440 make sure you're kind, You're trying to be a good 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.040 steward of his workload, and Ty Johnson and Ray Davis 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.839 are the answers to that. But you can trust James 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.680 Cook with anything, but you don't want to throw everybody 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.039 else to the side. You've got to make sure he's 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.120 going to be there and get him through an eighteen 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.680 game regular season in the playoffs. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.680 Flipping it over to the defensive side of the ball. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.440 What player has made the best impression over there for you? 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.839 Well, I think it's Caleb E. Larms or I mean, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.960 I mean hard not to be. Practice after practice after practice, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.320 he gets more and more and more entrenched into the 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.719 inside linebacker with the green dot. He has done nothing 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.520 but get better and tighten his grip on that spot. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.919 I echo your sentiments there. I will also throw Michael 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.200 Hoyd into the mix. His recovery has been remarkable. He 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.480 is full speed, full go, and now it's just a 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.560 matter of everybody crossing their fingers and toes that he 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.240 can get to the regular season and give this team 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.440 seventeen games, because I think he can be a force 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.240 multiplier for the pass rush. He might not be one 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.159 of the top two guys at outside linebacker. That's probably 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.520 Rousseau and brand Chubb, but he's that third element that 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.880 probably comes onto the field in obvious pass rush situations 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.760 and maybe Rousseau's kicking inside and Hoyt's on the outside, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.880 or maybe he's dancing around at the second level up 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.680 at the line of scrimmage. I think what he has 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.000 brought from an energy perspective and from a. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:20.720 What's the word I'm looking for. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.480 A resilience perspective I think is very inspiring to the 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.400 rest of that defense. And then d Alford, I think 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.920 very quietly, there's this under the that's a big position 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.640 to fill and big shoes to fill. Taron Johnson had 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.080 a whale of a career here for a fourth round 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.239 draft choice. He's got one of the top five plays 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.640 in team history with the one hundred one yard interception 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.200 return for a touchdown in the playoff game against Baltimore 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.480 in twenty twenty. I mean, that guy put in eight 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.840 really good years here and it's it's an important role 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.120 in defense is in this day and age in the NFL, 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.280 and I just think the way Dee Alford has hume 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.640 in and transitioned into this defense has been so smooth 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.080 that I think it's kind of been lost on people 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.679 who are focused on other things. And I think he look, Steve, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.440 we've talked about it. That guy was the first guy 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.400 they signed in free agency. Like you knew the priority 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.120 that position was when you saw that happen in early March. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.080 Yeah, and he is not disappointed. I'm with you on that. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.040 This defensive backfield, as you said, we've got a pretty 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.920 good idea. The front at least, who they'll be, how 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.240 good they're gonna be, and who fits and who doesn't 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:37.480 is one thing. But out of the seven front set, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.080 out of the seven of the front seven, those spots 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.240 we know probably who at least eight guys and that 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.360 rotation are gonna be for sure. In the back end, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.520 not so much. The corners. You got the top three, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.800 but you're gonna need a fourth. The nickel guy. You're 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.280 gonna need two of those guys, maybe a third who 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.520 is also a safety hybrid who can go back and 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.959 forth and play a swing safety. And the safeties you're 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.880 pretty sure about. The front two, maybe the front three, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.960 you're gonna need four of those guys. Yeah. De Alford 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.960 coming in and playing the way he has is a 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.640 big I think a little bit of a sigh of 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.480 relief for those who follow this kind of stuff. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.280 Give us an under the radar player that has shown 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.200 more in the early going than perhaps you expected. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.160 On each side of the ball anywhere under the radar. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.480 That's a good that's a good one. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:33.920 You want me to give you mine. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.080 First, you give you me years I got, I got, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.200 I got a few guys, but I think Dwayne Carter 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.920 is a player that has been largely forgotten by Bills 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.200 fans because August twenty fifth last year, he ruptures his 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.280 achille and he has the worst of the two achilles 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.719 ruptures off his heel and that thing rolls up like 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.720 a window sash. I talked to him last week. He 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:02.360 has added eighteen pounds of muscle mass to his frame 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.520 to play nose tackle, and I've noticed him he has 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.520 flashed in some of the practices. Now, is this a 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:14.199 guy that's gonna start. No, he's probably do uh Dion 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.640 Walker's backup for lack of a better place to put 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.199 him right now. But I've noticed him. There's a suddenness 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.760 to his game. And look, I don't think he's gonna 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.000 be a world beater, but I think he's gonna be 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.080 a very capable player to rotate through in this defense. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.760 And then it's hard to ignore Jalen Kilgore. I mean, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.800 this is a guy running with the third team and 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.000 he's making plays all over the field. It almost looks 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.680 too easy for him, and I'm wondering when Jim Leonard 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.880 makes the decision like I got to give this guy 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.480 a bigger challenge because he's not a third teamer. He's 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.520 got to get up to the second team. Let's see 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.200 how he does in preseason. But the guy leads the 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.400 team in interceptions through the first week of training camp. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.320 A fifth round on rookie like that doesn't just go 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:03.320 by the board as under. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.080 And that's that's that's unusual, particularly on a team that's 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.679 this accomplished. Uh. Sometimes you'll get a guy coming in 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.440 from the draft who all of a sudden, the team's 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.840 got their first big time player and he'll come in 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.880 and make a splash like that. But on a team 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.040 like this, Kill, what killgir has done is really true. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:24.000 And I like what you said about Dwayne Carter. That 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.160 is that's a guy that disappeared last year who you 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:28.880 had some high ho he's a second round pick, right, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.319 third round pick. He is. He's a guy that you 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:33.960 kind of thought, well he might contribute and then he 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.840 was completely gone. He comes back and he's transformed himself. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.240 I saw the guy walking out, like, like, who is that? 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.120 Do you know how hard it is to add eighteen 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.280 pounds of lean muscle mass in account you and I 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.800 couldn't do it? Like four to six pounds is a 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.280 major victory for most. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.079 Hard to get uh bless his heart, he did it 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.160 and that and I think that's he is probably the 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.439 guy in the whole list. Kill Gore is another one, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.480 and a guy who's played above my expectations, who's shown 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:05.880 you know that just like Wow, Okay has been Max Harriston, 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.760 that guy has his energy and his twitch and him 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.199 showing up this is the kind of camp I wish 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.840 he'd had last year when I'm like, wow, that he's 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.360 a lot of fun to watch and I'm I think 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.800 he's riveting. You're gonna see him out there playing some 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.840 man and it's gonna be fun to watch him play. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.280 So that's been a guy who's caught my eye. Not 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.120 that he's under the radar. He's a first round draft 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.760 pick and he's a corner and on all that stuff 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.240 that goes with it, but he has really surprised me 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.160 with his energy and his abilities to cover. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.720 And I realize we haven't even reached the preseason yet, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.320 but who needs to do more back in the practices 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.400 that one Bill's drive come next week and in the 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.839 upcoming preseason games to cement their role on the roster. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:55.040 I think I still think it's Keon Coleman, he got 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.120 to do more. He's got to do more. He's got 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.679 to be more productive. He's got to draw more targets 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.680 because of his separation, He's got to make more catches. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.520 I think he need. And now he's been quiet verbally. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.200 I mean he hasn't been and I and I respect it, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.440 but I think that's a guy that. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:16.959 Needs to. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.320 Do more. I think he needs to show up more. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.960 DJ Moore has dominated the wide receiver conversation in this 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.959 training camp. Khalil Shakir has been absolutely rock steady. That 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.880 guy gets on one on ones, he gets open, makes 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.000 the catch, turns it up the field. He is exactly 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.839 who you think he is. Keon has been nondescript. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.559 I think I was gonna say I got a couple 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.920 offensive linemen here, guys that have been depth pieces as 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.520 young players. I think Tyland Grabil's got to step up here. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.080 This is a guy who has been injury riddled his 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.920 first two years with the club. He's healthy now and 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.360 I think he's gonna have to step up and seize 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.959 that swing tackle role because there's a fourth round pick 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.400 by the name of Jude Bowery that's nipping at his 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.200 heels for that job and will it come down to 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.920 preseason game performance. Probably, But those two guys are gonna 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.840 see a lot of time at the tackle positions because 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.440 eventually they're gonna be sitting down Dion and Spencer Brown. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.360 They don't they know what those two guys are about. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.840 They're not gonna play a ton in the preseason. Those 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.720 two guys are gonna be going head down there. As 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.680 to who's gonna be to swing tackle there. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.640 They're both really good athletes for the size they are. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.280 I mean they're there's they're the size of NFL offensive tackles. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:32.560 Now. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:38.320 Both of them are extremely good athletes. Right now, I 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.280 think they're even as even though you got a you know, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.080 Jude Bowery is, he's got some stuff to learn, right 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.960 I think right now we're gonna get to see both 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.440 those guys in the game. There's probably this first preseason 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:50.760 and then. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.000 This other The other guy I thought of was Cedric 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.400 van pran Grainger, a guy that's been a backup his 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.480 first two years, had a setback last year, going into 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.840 camp with a pulled calf muscle. It pretty much cost 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.600 him all of training camp and he was behind the 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.720 rest of the year healthy now, and he's got competition 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.960 in the form of veteran Lloyd cushion Berry, who's battling 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.680 him for that backup center spot. And I gotta say 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.960 I was encouraged by what we saw from Van pran 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.680 Granger and O line D line one on ones. He's 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.760 winning battles over there. That has to continue. Because cushion 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.280 Berry has a history with Joe Brady. He was his 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.560 center on the twenty nineteen LSU team that won the 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:30.120 national title. There's history there, and to overcome that, you've 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.280 got to overperform and convince them I am the better option. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.280 And so I'm hoping that Van pran Granger can kind 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.120 of put together a solid preseason to say, hey, you 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.520 guys drafted me for a reason. I know you got 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.760 Connor McGovern he's your rock solid pivot man. Something happens 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.120 to him, you can count on me. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.239 Yeah. And I think another guy that's in this conversation, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.720 he's been around for a minute, and this Travis Clayton, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.440 big tall, rangy athlete. They flipped him over to the 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.840 defensive line. I think they're desperately trying to find a 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.360 way to get him on the field because he is 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.360 that much of an elite athlete In the preseason, I 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.280 think he is gonna get some reps at D line. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.000 How those go will determine whether he's got a future 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.720 or not with his club. I don't know that he's 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.800 gonna be able to carve out a role this year, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.640 but if he shows promise and they can, if he 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.200 can squeeze one more year of development on the defensive side, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.400 all right, maybe you've got something there. But by that time, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.760 the guy's gonna be in his mid twenties or late twenties, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.040 and he's gonna get one contract out of this and 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.640 you're gonna see, and we'll see. But that's where I 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:38.080 see him. I mean, it's coming to the point where 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.280 he's given this a shot for two or three years. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.080 Is gonna be his fourth year. I think he's got 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.200 to get on the field somehow. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.720 Yeah, he is a physical specimen, there's no doubt about that. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.560 Time for the numbers game, where Steve will be quizzed 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:56.960 on Bill's player names and initial abbreviations. Question number one, Steve, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:02.240 how many names does Ray Davis have in his full name? 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.439 Just give me a number. How many names do you 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.960 believe he has? In his full name, got four names 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:07.920 in his name? 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.040 It's actually five? Oh, here are you? 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:12.280 Do? 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.240 You know what his real first name is? It's Raymon 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.240 R E hyphen M A j N. But here is 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:18.840 his full name. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:19.320 You're ready? 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.880 Raymond Walter, Jamar Damar Davis. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.440 Oh the Shamar Damar thing. I did realize. I did 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.800 remember that. Now that you say that he's got five. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.560 Names, he's got a key and peel full name there, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.120 that's pretty impressive. Question number two, what does the DJ 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.000 in DJ Moore's name stand for? 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:41.960 Damon James? 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.840 That is incorrect, but it was a valiant guess. It's 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:55.080 Deniston Junior. So he is DJ Denniston Moore Junior, and one. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.440 Of his boys is DJ. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.359 The third? All right? 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:58.840 Question number three? 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.920 What does the the T and the J stand for 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.040 in defensive lineman T J. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:05.160 Sanders name? 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:15.720 This is pretty unique, so I don't really extract various Jamara, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.680 this is what it is. Okay, it's Tenary J. His 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.640 middle initial J is just the initial. It's no name, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:27.359 it's just a J. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:28.880 Isn't that cool? 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:29.720 Cool? 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.960 I think that's kind of cool. Kind of cool. Makes 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.119 autographs a lot easier. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.600 Question number four, He's not the only TJ as we know, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.600 So what does the T and J stand for in 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.119 rookie Edge Rusher TJ. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.040 Parker's name? 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.679 And I would encourage you to go with one of 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.280 the guesses you've already made for the Jays. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.920 To various James. Uh, it's it's. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:19:01.160 Actually Tamarrian Jamar t O M M A r Ion. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.840 Didn't I say that for Tomorian? I didn't hear Tomorian. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.680 You said Jamar earlier, but this time you said James. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.800 Good guesses. I didn't really expect you to get any 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.800 of them. I'm kind of trying to shed some light 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.400 for our fans as to what the initials stand for. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.400 Understand why these guys go by initials. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.640 Well, I mean say it five times fast. Best of luck, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.760 especially Ray Davis. Are you kidding me with that name? 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:23.960 Damar Jamar? 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:25.440 That sound? 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.200 You know like a lot of the names in Hispanic 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:33.080 culture have four and five names because they use maiden 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.720 names and family names and all that stuff. It looks 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.520 like Ray Davis's family did the same thing. All right, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.320 we move now to our one burning question, Steve, why 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.679 will this defense have a better pass rush than they 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.920 did the previous season? 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:56.840 There's more than One reason one, the five man front 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.040 rather than the four man front makes it just that 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.120 much more difficult for offensive linemen to sort through which 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.359 four coming. When he got four hands on the ground, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.240 you kind of got that four hands. And if a 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.720 fifth and if one of those guys on the ground 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.720 in a four man rush, if one of those guys 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.560 with his hand on the ground backs out into coverage 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:15.879 and they bring one of the stand up guys, that 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.639 stand up guy's coming from depth, and it takes a 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.600 little longer to get there, that kind of thing. That's 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:28.280 one reason. Two. I think there is more guys who 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.360 on this roster who fit into a three to four 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:37.159 scheme physically prototypically than we thought there was gonna be 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.640 when camp opened up. And I think that's gonna help them. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.600 Third reason, I think they got a play caller as 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.959 a defensive coordinator, and I think he's gonna get him 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:49.840 some just from the way he calls a game. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.080 Yeah, I would tend to agree with a lot of that. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.720 I will say I believe the pass rush has greater 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:02.880 depth at the quote unquot edge rusher position that they 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:07.600 can roll through and you have a proven commodity in 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.600 Bradley Chubb, you have potential in TJ. 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:13.160 Parker. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.560 I would even roll Michael Hoyt into a proven commodity, 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.280 you know what he is, and even Greg Russou to 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.560 a certain extent. You know, Greg Russo can probably get 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.080