Speaker 1: I want to see what Jonathan Major's wearing in high school.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: I really don't want to know what he was wearing
Speaker 2: in high school. I want to know if this became
Speaker 2: this thing.
Speaker 1: Or was like this.
Speaker 3: That man was wearing top hats and Dutch clogs. That
Speaker 3: is like weirdo.
Speaker 2: That's bugs is crazy, tugs crazy what.
Speaker 1: They carved him himself.
Speaker 3: Mom, they roasted my wittles again. It's like, all right, bro,
Speaker 3: you gotta stop calling them wish ship.
Speaker 1: Chips in your.
Speaker 4: Kuala bears are racist. The bows, the money, our turney stuff.
Speaker 1: I can't tell me.
Speaker 4: When I die.
Speaker 3: Bury me inside the Booty Club. There it is ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, gentiles and little Mama's aike. Welcome to another
Speaker 3: phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 4: The podcast where we die deep into the pockets of
Speaker 4: black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3: And we finally work to prove that Lebron James is
Speaker 3: never going to retire from the NBA until he gets
Speaker 3: his oldest son into the league, Trinidad James. He wants
Speaker 3: his boy to play with him, and he'll fight to
Speaker 3: the end until sweet Trinidad makes.
Speaker 4: It to the league.
Speaker 3: That's that's my theory. I'm Linkeston Kerman and I'm excited
Speaker 3: for the James family.
Speaker 4: I'm David Boy and that's my favorite James brother. James.
Speaker 4: I've seen him in a parking lot one time when
Speaker 4: he was like on like in the middle of it. Ye,
Speaker 4: he looked good. He look is that parking garage behind
Speaker 4: West Side Comedy Theater. Yeah, and he was in like
Speaker 4: a hell cat and he was you look happy. I
Speaker 4: got bad news, brother. He worked there now at Nigga
Speaker 4: is parking cars.
Speaker 3: Now, I think.
Speaker 4: That's the okay life. Like one hit like the one
Speaker 4: hit right, and then you just go on to do
Speaker 4: whatever else you were going to do. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's a bad life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we should give more credit
Speaker 3: to the people who just experienced the top of the
Speaker 3: top for a second like that is such an impossible
Speaker 3: thing to accomplish that the fact that he made it
Speaker 3: up there is gorgeous and good for you, you Trinidad James.
Speaker 3: We're proud of you for everything that you've accomplished. We
Speaker 3: miss you, We miss you.
Speaker 4: Man. Well, it's fine, we did what we could with you.
Speaker 4: It's a good summer.
Speaker 3: Our guess today, I don't know how he feels about
Speaker 3: Trinidad James his eyes, his eyes were darting in a
Speaker 3: way that I'm not sure he's convinced that Trinidad's legacy
Speaker 3: is as rich and fulfilled as we think it is.
Speaker 3: But I'm excited to hear how he feels about it.
Speaker 3: He's He's a hilarious comedian, a returning guest on the podcast.
Speaker 3: Just a funny motherfucker, one of my favorite people to
Speaker 3: hang out with. You know him best from Flatbush Misdemeanors.
Speaker 3: He's one of the creators and stars of that show
Speaker 3: that damn Michael Jay. He was a writer, and he
Speaker 3: has his own hour coming up September twenty ninth at
Speaker 3: Union Hall seven point thirty. By your goddamn tickets. They're
Speaker 3: gonna want to see him perform. Give it up for
Speaker 3: our guest, mister Kevin. I.
Speaker 5: So she pulls out her breast and she's juggling them,
Speaker 5: look like she's about the fall over. Then she bends
Speaker 5: over and pulls down her pennies, spreads her cheeks. I'm
Speaker 5: not lying, I'm telling what's on the video. Spreads her cheeks.
Speaker 5: This is madness.
Speaker 2: Where is that from? I was expecting, like a clap
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: That's how we do things.
Speaker 1: Spreds.
Speaker 4: This is madness.
Speaker 1: They sound like Bernie mad.
Speaker 3: There's a I guess, a viral video of a teacher
Speaker 3: that got exposed on her only fans, and this is
Speaker 3: the the prosecuting lawyer for the school, for the school
Speaker 3: board shaming her for for all the things that she
Speaker 3: did in her only fans video, if I'm remembering correct.
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, that's what I always wish court
Speaker 4: was come ons in the courtroom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it made me so mad when I found out
Speaker 3: that like most most trials don't go I mean most
Speaker 3: like fucking lawsuits don't go to trial. That there's not
Speaker 3: the theatrics are not a part of the traditional lawyer
Speaker 3: experience at all.
Speaker 4: Court, even when you get in trouble, court is boring
Speaker 4: as ship.
Speaker 3: I haven't experienced it, but but it seems like.
Speaker 4: It would be. You've never been to court even for
Speaker 4: like a ticket? No what no?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, so life skin privilege.
Speaker 3: Now, I just don't fight it.
Speaker 4: I just pay it. I just young, I used to
Speaker 4: them when I have no money. Yeah, you've never been
Speaker 4: in court for anybody else either. No, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: help you if you go down.
Speaker 3: What do you want me to be a character witness?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's just like emotional supporter. Like you
Speaker 4: never have you ever been in court at all, like
Speaker 4: for anything.
Speaker 3: I have been at court a few times my dad.
Speaker 3: I've talked about this a little bit on the podcast.
Speaker 3: My dad. You know, his profession is, uh, he's an
Speaker 3: it guy, but his passion is communism, and so he
Speaker 3: is often he has he has friends, he has people
Speaker 3: that he's sort of like actively supporting that like have
Speaker 3: had court cases, and I've gone to court with him
Speaker 3: a few times to like be a part of witnessing,
Speaker 3: you know, the things that are transpiring. But I've never
Speaker 3: personally had any like stakes and the ship.
Speaker 4: You don't talk about it, but you're the wildest guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I got some weird shit going on at home.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You know you went to communism trials.
Speaker 3: It wasn't communism. They are intense cases that I've been
Speaker 3: to though. It's like it's going to jail for for
Speaker 3: very extreme things that are going to like keep them
Speaker 3: there for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 4: That's core.
Speaker 3: You've been to quarter yeah, yeah, but but you know
Speaker 3: I got a happy meal afterwards.
Speaker 4: I was chewing.
Speaker 3: Kevin, have you been to court? Are you a court guy?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, when I didn't have when I didn't,
Speaker 2: like I said, when I was like having to fight
Speaker 2: tickets whatever, speeding, but nothing serious like my little brother
Speaker 2: is more serious stuff. But that that, uh, that clip
Speaker 2: is interesting to me.
Speaker 3: Because marinating on this col.
Speaker 2: Because Bro like was very descriptive like he was. It
Speaker 2: seemed like he watched more than he needed to, you
Speaker 2: know what, you know, pulling down her pants, spreads her bunchies,
Speaker 2: sticks her finger in her ass, lacks the finger. Thirty
Speaker 2: four minutes of this. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you need to see. Oh, like, you could have just
Speaker 2: kind of seen the thumbnail and been.
Speaker 3: Like, a she willden you know what she was bros.
Speaker 1: Bro was like, nah, I got research for court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know what she was up to it. Moreover,
Speaker 3: you didn't have to watch it that many times. You
Speaker 3: it a few times.
Speaker 1: You had the bookmarket judge like, all right, that's enough.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, that's another one.
Speaker 3: When she get a banana, right, she pulls down her pennies.
Speaker 2: He's sweating while he's talking about the Cloyd.
Speaker 4: Thirty two creat.
Speaker 6: Juggling breast, Victoria's Secret, Danny's ball line.
Speaker 3: We didn't come here to talk about goddamn perverts on
Speaker 3: the internet. We got a topic from you, Kevin, A
Speaker 3: very exciting topic. I wouldn't necessarily qualify this as a
Speaker 3: specifically black topic, but I do think it is very
Speaker 3: much an active conversation in many black households, So I'm
Speaker 3: excited to cover it. But you said, my mama told
Speaker 3: me bullying it's healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so not still healthy because it's but and
Speaker 2: as it's like she didn't tell me this, Yes, she
Speaker 2: showed me this.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a conversation, but it was that bullying is
Speaker 2: healthy through her actions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched my mom.
Speaker 2: I mean, my mom bullied us, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like like like I remember, like even my teeth, Like
Speaker 2: my mom was constantly like she stopped.
Speaker 1: She doesn't do it as much now.
Speaker 2: When I used to like go back home like maybe
Speaker 2: like five seven years ago, she'd just be like, we
Speaker 2: are you gonna.
Speaker 1: Fix your teeth? Like Anna, you're braces, And I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: this was your responsibility.
Speaker 3: She gave it to me, lady, I'm an adult. Now
Speaker 3: you could have done something about this, yeah, But.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but it's not.
Speaker 2: It's like it creates I mean, the thing is that
Speaker 2: it creates character, right or.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 2: Because at this point because at this point, like I
Speaker 2: don't know, if you're bullied about something that you're insecure about,
Speaker 2: it can create character. Should Yeah, But if you're bullied
Speaker 2: about something that you're insecure about, there's two ways to
Speaker 2: kind of go about it. One is to like run
Speaker 2: and hide from this ship, or the others to like
Speaker 2: lean into it and be like, so, what mother fucker
Speaker 2: shit is the way that it is, you know. And
Speaker 2: that's when I see like the health side of it.
Speaker 2: That's what I kind of mean, where it's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can only go through something so long
Speaker 2: before you're just like, oh, I'm finnah still just be
Speaker 2: ashamed about this shit everywhere I go. It's like you
Speaker 2: not heard every angle that could possibly kind of you know,
Speaker 2: and then you just suffer in silence like a real man, just.
Speaker 3: Go Okay, Bory, where do you fall in this? Or
Speaker 3: are you are you? Are you? Would you identify as
Speaker 3: somebody who was a victim of bullying at any point
Speaker 3: in your.
Speaker 4: Life younger, younger for sure. I'm soft hearted and tender headed,
Speaker 4: so younger for sure. And then I start once sports
Speaker 4: started up and stuff like that, it kind of wasn't
Speaker 4: like that anymore. I So I hear this all the time.
Speaker 4: My mom also big proponent of bullying, making fun of
Speaker 4: the less fortunate physically or otherwise. Huge fan, hilarious woman.
Speaker 4: But I don't agree with this just because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there are two ways, but I feel like only the
Speaker 4: top tier of people overcome it. Most people just let
Speaker 4: it become deep seated in and develop terrible habits to
Speaker 4: overcome it. Right, Like, So if we're looking at it
Speaker 4: like dealing with people on the whole, yes, there is
Speaker 4: that twenty percent who for sure become better people because
Speaker 4: of bullying. But then there's like the eighty percent who
Speaker 4: developed drinking problems and eating disorders, and that's where you
Speaker 4: gotta like worry about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's more than twenty percent,
Speaker 2: though you think it's more than Yeah, absolutely, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's more than twenty percent because bullying, like bullying
Speaker 2: even today, like women bully broke dudes all the time.
Speaker 4: Okay, broke, My fucking what you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's bullied, it's brilliant. You're broke shaming me, and.
Speaker 2: It works for a lot of people where they's just
Speaker 2: like I, that's what I need to not be called broke,
Speaker 2: and then you turn.
Speaker 1: It off, you know, Floyd Mayweather type.
Speaker 4: But but there's one Floyd Mayweather. Most dudes are broke.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I mean like personality where niggas think they money is
Speaker 2: they they hold? Mean, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: you go out like nigga, I got money, nigga, what
Speaker 2: the fuck she should want to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But that's that's that's the unhealthy part of it. But
Speaker 2: you're not broken no more, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1: Oh my, so my mom, my mom, this is going great.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll be honest, I'm scared.
Speaker 4: I'm a little.
Speaker 1: Well because because the physical I want to hear. I
Speaker 1: want to hear.
Speaker 2: I want to hear what your mom was saying to people,
Speaker 2: because I seen my mom say something that this woman
Speaker 2: she was short in fact, and my mom said.
Speaker 1: She said she looked like a penguin.
Speaker 4: That was funny. That's hilarious. That's that is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Now she ain't do anything about it, but yeah, this
Speaker 2: is but okay, so this is but this is where
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going with it. And I ain't
Speaker 2: even finished the full when I started. But bullying, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's healthy for the bullier.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Is that was that up for grabs?
Speaker 3: I think the I always knew that the bully was
Speaker 3: having a good time, a great time.
Speaker 4: It's fun to bully people. That's not what the argument. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would is that what we're talking about. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: is great, it's hilarious, it's really fun to bully people.
Speaker 3: That's I don't know that that's I don't know that
Speaker 3: that's the population we were looking to save. But certainly, certainly,
Speaker 3: I think we should acknowledge that there is a big
Speaker 3: population of bullies that are becoming more empowered, riving, thriving, Yeah.
Speaker 4: For sure. But I hate that idea when people when
Speaker 4: usually bullies, it's the only bullies, you take that stance
Speaker 4: where they're like, no, I was trying to help you. No,
Speaker 4: you're a mean, very funny person. It's not like like
Speaker 4: you're not like an arbiter of justice. You're not. It
Speaker 4: is in no means any type of care for the
Speaker 4: like subject of the bullying, and if allowed, it will
Speaker 4: get taken. Two extremes in football, we could we put
Speaker 4: a get in the trash can. We cut people's hair
Speaker 4: who didn't want it to have happened, like right, like
Speaker 4: if you just let it run rampantly and what and
Speaker 4: what that?
Speaker 1: And what that kid do? He knew not to come.
Speaker 3: Around on football.
Speaker 1: He found out that it wasn't healthy for him to
Speaker 1: be around the people. And so he was like, Yo, I'm.
Speaker 2: A finer, And who knows if y'all didn't throw him
Speaker 2: in that trash can, he probably still been around trying
Speaker 2: to become Ladani and Thomason and some goofy ship. But
Speaker 2: since y'all throw him in that trash can, he was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm really good at accounting, and they he went over
Speaker 2: there and started the account.
Speaker 4: That's not how I remember it ending.
Speaker 1: No, he turned his dookie off the wire.
Speaker 4: He just he just kept he kept going to school
Speaker 4: with us. He just seems sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just felt low because yeah, just everything everything
Speaker 3: he had invested in rejected him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's he doing right now, I don't check out
Speaker 4: if he was it a trash can I'm a winner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think I sort of fall somewhere in
Speaker 3: the middle where I do recognize that like there is
Speaker 3: character building in sort of like overcoming adversity. That said,
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any level of like Batman
Speaker 3: this inside of the bully's efforts, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like they're not seeking a greater good. They're just being mean,
Speaker 3: bad people who some of us manage to like overcome,
Speaker 3: ye know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And yeah, moved. I also think there's a level of
Speaker 4: like that overcoming things in that way because of that
Speaker 4: reason breeds more like you take someone who is well
Speaker 4: accomplished because they just had like a good family or whatever,
Speaker 4: and you see where they go in the world versus
Speaker 4: someone who is just mercilessly bullied. The second one is
Speaker 4: usually a cyclepath not broke for sure, nuts because it's
Speaker 4: like it comes out of like like I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just think I get it. I do think there's
Speaker 4: a level where you should, like and there's some things
Speaker 4: like you know, hygiene and ship like that where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you kind of got to bully people to keep them
Speaker 4: in line on that. But like, for the most part,
Speaker 4: I don't think it. I don't think that it helps
Speaker 4: that much. I don't think it helps as much as
Speaker 4: bullies wanted to. And I fully acknowledge the bullies are hilarious.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to want it to help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 2: I think I believe that it can, is all I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's I believe that it can't. Like I
Speaker 2: think I think Kyane was bullied, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean that. I know it's doing great right now, amazing,
Speaker 2: it's a phenomenal life.
Speaker 1: It kind of fell off in the last but the
Speaker 1: first thirty eight.
Speaker 4: That's truly, that's true. He did, bro he did.
Speaker 3: He reached the heights of heights.
Speaker 4: That he's rich forever, and that's cool.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the problem with Trinidad James. He ain't
Speaker 1: get bullied enough.
Speaker 4: Wa also mediocre production.
Speaker 7: It was a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that there is a level of
Speaker 3: like a need to overcome in order to be your best,
Speaker 3: strongest self, right, Like, I think that is just a
Speaker 3: fact of humanity that like nobody can like live a
Speaker 3: life without any adversity and expect to be sort of
Speaker 3: a full person on the other side of it. That said,
Speaker 3: I've always felt life is kind of hard enough, Like
Speaker 3: life just be doing ship to you without anybody's involvement.
Speaker 3: And so the fact that like some kid comes to
Speaker 3: school and it's like, I'm gona punch him in the
Speaker 3: head just to make him different than he is. It's like, bro,
Speaker 3: I got enough going on at home.
Speaker 4: Your grandma's gonna die anyways, she's on her way out.
Speaker 4: My my mom ain't.
Speaker 3: Making good choices, But dad, don't talk. What do you
Speaker 3: want for me? That that this punch is gonna like
Speaker 3: help make happen.
Speaker 1: So so okay.
Speaker 2: So that's a form of bullying that is can be
Speaker 2: very destructive. Now, now let's talk about the constructive bullying.
Speaker 2: I mean not constructive, but can lead to constructive like
Speaker 2: character building. Like let's say, clothing, that's a that's a
Speaker 2: huge issue for kids in high school. What you wear,
Speaker 2: how you look, your presentation, all that. A lot of
Speaker 2: kids can't afford the nicest clothes. I know, this is
Speaker 2: me actually out of hand now more so than ever
Speaker 2: because of Instagram and everything. Because you know, you used
Speaker 2: to be able to wear your Monday outfit, you know,
Speaker 2: on Friday, and then kind of like rotate around for the.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I think likes to know specifically, I'll
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 3: We talked about this on one of our more recent
Speaker 3: episodes about I was swapping clothes just like that and
Speaker 3: it was working great until it wasn't. And then I
Speaker 3: got a my fair share of bullet for Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got caught. I got caught up, but I was in
Speaker 3: fashion court.
Speaker 4: There's too much platinum food, man, yo, that I mean,
Speaker 4: that's how I got I got called once because my
Speaker 4: dad was trying to save money.
Speaker 2: That's where it always starts. They trying to save money.
Speaker 2: And I had some footballs in middle school, but like
Speaker 2: they was on sale, but they was two sizeses bigger
Speaker 2: than my foot.
Speaker 4: Damn damn. Big shoes is the one you can't Big
Speaker 4: sh bro.
Speaker 1: You know. You know he right, You're gonna grow into him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna score.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: They called him ships out but I didn't even walk
Speaker 2: for the like twenty minutes I said that.
Speaker 3: I said, You're like, no, Kevin, You're gonna be a
Speaker 3: size fourteen. Watch you won't you won't see you're gonna
Speaker 3: be a fourteen, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, big shoes is that's because there's nothing you could
Speaker 4: do with that. You look like an idiot, even if
Speaker 4: they were real big. It's terrible.
Speaker 3: It's bad, bad, But but I think.
Speaker 1: I think on the closing side of things, like in
Speaker 1: a way it creates style a little bit.
Speaker 4: It can Yeah, did you freak those big shoes in
Speaker 4: a way that oh no, I.
Speaker 2: Never war again in my life. I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: it's crazy that I remember. I got away with it.
Speaker 2: I got away with it for most of the day.
Speaker 2: I remember that like I got away with it. It
Speaker 2: was like probably to like the last like hour of school.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, that's that's how you lose, because
Speaker 2: you get comfortable.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, here's what I'll say though, And and as
Speaker 3: somebody that got roasted for for uh, I once got
Speaker 3: told I had on air Steve Kurz and that that
Speaker 3: broke my heart in a way that I'll I still
Speaker 3: hold tight this day.
Speaker 4: Before he was such a prolific coach too, that's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: this was like when it was a good reference.
Speaker 3: It was it was a deep cut at the time.
Speaker 3: It was in Chicago's I was it did all. It
Speaker 3: was nasty work. It was in front of my lady
Speaker 3: at the time, it was all. It was devastating. But
Speaker 3: I'll say that I'm so ashamed to tell you what
Speaker 3: they were that it feels like I'm derailing the point
Speaker 3: that I'll tell you at the end. I'll save it
Speaker 3: like an easter egg. What the fuck I had on
Speaker 3: I'll let you know.
Speaker 4: But the point is.
Speaker 3: Is that we think we're getting away with it, but
Speaker 3: what's actually happening is the school has circulated the conversation
Speaker 3: about your ship for a day and then they just
Speaker 3: decide to say something at the end of it. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like every time you're like, yo,
Speaker 3: nobody's nobody's clocking that I wore this shirt on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Niggas clocked it. They're just waiting until the right moment
Speaker 3: to make me feel small.
Speaker 4: I think that's partially true. I think partially this is
Speaker 4: you coming from a very personal specific experience. Yeah you
Speaker 4: said make me feel small?
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, yeah, I only know how to speak from
Speaker 3: the personal personal.
Speaker 4: Guy. Wait, but we haven't gotten the witches, the constructive bully.
Speaker 1: I just said the clothes, so the fashion yeah, like that.
Speaker 2: That that sort of thing where you're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: because of you know, I'm getting and because it creates
Speaker 2: it creates that that that spine where you're like, yo,
Speaker 2: I like this shirt.
Speaker 4: But that's not what happened. You said you you said,
Speaker 4: you did, you just threw them.
Speaker 1: No, those shoes are too big.
Speaker 2: But if it's something that you know, you like, where
Speaker 2: you're just like, no, I like this shirt, you know,
Speaker 2: and people are like, yo, this goof yeah shirt you like?
Speaker 7: You don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like binge, Like hold on binge is fly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It creates, It takes time.
Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted, because I don't think that you know,
Speaker 2: you're in ninth grade thinking like that, but as you
Speaker 2: kind of people kind of pick on your clothing like
Speaker 2: cool to me.
Speaker 3: I do think that that's sort of the hardest part
Speaker 3: of when we talk about bullying, it is almost off
Speaker 3: most often in people's formative years, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So like at the time when I'm most sensitive and
Speaker 3: least capable of sort of like asserting what I like
Speaker 3: and don't like is when motherfuckers are coming up and
Speaker 3: telling me about myself in a way that I can't manage.
Speaker 3: Whereas like now, thirty seven years old, somebody goes, I
Speaker 3: don't like that shirt. I go, bitch, I bought it.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 4: This is the shirt now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what do you want for me? This
Speaker 3: is this is my shirt. I plan to wear it again.
Speaker 3: I plan, in fact, I plan to wear it Thursday,
Speaker 3: and I won't feel embarrassed if you notice, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, I truly am just locked into
Speaker 3: the character at this point. But at fourteen, I couldn't
Speaker 3: manage that, you know what I mean? Twelve I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I wasn't bouncing back like, bitch, this is my good girl.
Speaker 1: What are you like?
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, no, you're wrong. I hate
Speaker 3: me too, and there's nothing I can do about.
Speaker 1: It, for sure.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, that you get your shirts.
Speaker 2: Think enough over time, Like actually, you know what, so
Speaker 2: button down, open chest ship.
Speaker 1: Still I still can't pull that off.
Speaker 2: Nigga, tell me if I wear an open chest shirt,
Speaker 2: nigga say anything to me.
Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, But.
Speaker 4: That's but that is a crazy move. It shouldn't be
Speaker 4: it should chess dudes do it.
Speaker 3: I'll say, this, I'll be saying, like dudes and like
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Speaker 4: We're back discussing bully.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she always teaching us something.
Speaker 4: I always have something on it.
Speaker 3: So I did do a little bit of research as
Speaker 3: it relates to the conversation of bullying specifically, I wanted
Speaker 3: to look up if there were any sort of like articles,
Speaker 3: legitimate articles sort of making the argument that bullying in
Speaker 3: fact was better for us, that it was a good thing.
Speaker 3: And admittedly a lot of the articles were from like
Speaker 3: places called like fratbros dot net.
Speaker 4: It's like Bullying's awesome.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, fellas, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're the peer reviewed literature that I was looking for.
Speaker 3: But that said, I did come across an article that's
Speaker 3: sort of talked about specifically the term bullying being too broad.
Speaker 3: They said that it sort of has been treated nowadays
Speaker 3: as something that encompasses all mistreatment by other individuals, and
Speaker 3: that creates a dangerous sort of like precedent because it
Speaker 3: almost negates the real bullying that's happening for some individuals.
Speaker 4: If that makes sense. Oh yeah, I mean that's like
Speaker 4: it's like a culture right now.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that like everything he.
Speaker 4: Knows some type of thing when there are people who
Speaker 4: are actually suffering from it.
Speaker 1: Saying you have mental health when you're just.
Speaker 4: Tired, yeah, or annoying an irritating person, Yeah, like just
Speaker 4: drinks of water.
Speaker 3: I think is maybe what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're just a bitch.
Speaker 2: Did he give did he give examples of what types
Speaker 2: of like bullying?
Speaker 3: They said in the article that a person of the
Speaker 3: same size, the same strength, and same status, not liking
Speaker 3: something you're wearing or not liking you personally should not
Speaker 3: necessarily be qualified as bullying, right, Like sometimes.
Speaker 4: No, that's crazy because then that that doesn't account for
Speaker 4: little bullies.
Speaker 3: Well, hear me out. I think what they're arguing is
Speaker 3: that like and and individual. I think what they were
Speaker 3: sort of suggesting is that an individual interaction where I go,
Speaker 3: fuck your shirt is not bully, presuming that I'm not
Speaker 3: like an older kid sort of like coming down to
Speaker 3: your like elementary school and being like, fuck your shirt.
Speaker 3: There's no power dynamic here. It's just one dude not
Speaker 3: liking another dude's shirt. Whereas if every single day I
Speaker 3: go look at this bummy ass nigga in his shirt
Speaker 3: and it's a different shirt every time, that would qualify
Speaker 3: as bully. I don't like this, Okay, tell me more.
Speaker 4: I think that because a lot of the best bullies
Speaker 4: are people who got something fucked up. A lot of
Speaker 4: the best bullies have a weird hand. Mm hm, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, so it's like the whole
Speaker 4: point is the power dynamic. So to say like you're
Speaker 4: gonna get bully, you can still get bullied by somebody
Speaker 4: who's like equals you.
Speaker 3: That's not like you know what I'm saying, but it's not.
Speaker 3: I I yes to that part of it. But I
Speaker 3: think the persistence is maybe the part that you're not
Speaker 3: addressing the the individual versus like the persisting I think
Speaker 3: it's like repeated.
Speaker 4: As a repeated action, then it becomes But what if
Speaker 4: they're all bummy shirts.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can have somebody that it's equal
Speaker 2: to you say one thing about you one time, and
Speaker 2: it stick with you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: And it's happened to everyone and it let it be
Speaker 2: the opposite gender.
Speaker 4: I see their faces, I can see it. I remember
Speaker 4: the whole setup. I remember where I was walking. They
Speaker 4: were they had their arms locked, like you know how
Speaker 4: girls would walk with their arms locked sometimes, and the
Speaker 4: one girl was like, what's your favorite color? And I
Speaker 4: was new at the school and I was like, these
Speaker 4: girls want to talk to me because it was like
Speaker 4: eighth grade. They're like, what's your favorite color? And I
Speaker 4: was like, I think I even licked my lips. It
Speaker 4: is bad, I was. I was like, I was like, hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I said.
Speaker 4: And then the one, the littler girl, bro, now I'm
Speaker 4: thinking about it. It's just giving me chills. The little
Speaker 4: girl looked me right in my face and she was like,
Speaker 4: I thought you was gonna say purple because.
Speaker 1: That's a com.
Speaker 4: And it went raisezy. Anyway, look Kevin, look at Kevin
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: Ray I'm with her on her side.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll never forget it. And that's what that was.
Speaker 3: Girls purple is is God Damn.
Speaker 4: I was wearing a new academic shirt. I was wearing
Speaker 4: a brand new academics button down I got.
Speaker 3: But here's what they would say, I think, based on
Speaker 3: the article I was reading, is that it's also numbers
Speaker 3: as it relates to that situation, right that, like that
Speaker 3: one little girl saying that to you in private is
Speaker 3: a very different thing. I'm saying that if it were,
Speaker 3: if that, if that individual said something to you in private,
Speaker 3: and don't get so angry. You're obviously on edge about
Speaker 3: what happened to you, and I'm sorry, I'm genuinely sorry
Speaker 3: that that happened. If if that's what you need to
Speaker 3: hear to calm down enough so that you can take
Speaker 3: this in, then I am sorry that little girl did
Speaker 3: the wrong thing to you. You are not purple, Your
Speaker 3: skin is beautiful, and you're a strong, proud man.
Speaker 4: And so I say that that.
Speaker 3: It is also the group think that sort of makes
Speaker 3: that bullying, right that she showed up with three other
Speaker 3: friends and the people, okay, one.
Speaker 4: Other friend overblowing the story.
Speaker 3: Look, man, all I heard was you scream for mercy, niggas.
Speaker 1: She could have texted that to me and would have
Speaker 1: been hurt. Yeah, nobody else.
Speaker 4: It is rough day. It's rough day.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the numbers plays a major part
Speaker 3: in it. I think the persistence plays a major part
Speaker 3: in it. And I think status, as they argue, plays
Speaker 3: a major part in how we define what bullying actually
Speaker 3: is versus what I think they're arguing, Kevin, is something
Speaker 3: similar to what you're suggesting, which is a part of
Speaker 3: just character building that sometimes people are going to call
Speaker 3: you ugly, they're gonna call your clothes trash, They're going
Speaker 3: to say things that don't make you feel good. But
Speaker 3: that is just part of growing up. The way that
Speaker 3: it sounds like all three of our mothers bullied us,
Speaker 3: and I don't know that I get to I don't
Speaker 3: know I get to call anybody about this, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Also who, I don't care who, That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just like, wait, so okay, So I have a question, like,
Speaker 2: all right, you know you have you have you have
Speaker 2: two beautiful little children, Yeah, and you know they come
Speaker 2: home from school. Hey, I'm being bullied. How are you?
Speaker 2: How are you handling this? On let's say a physical level,
Speaker 2: your son is being bullied A twelve years old or whatever.
Speaker 8: We have the clothing level that we've discussed the clothes stuff,
Speaker 8: and then maybe just like a pure nasty you know whatever,
Speaker 8: your chubby, your your skin is too, what this side
Speaker 8: of the way your hair?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't lay. I don't. Your last name
Speaker 1: is Kervan, and it's weird.
Speaker 4: It ain't not a lot left, It ain't normal anywhere.
Speaker 2: How you handle it just on different, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I guess on the other on the other
Speaker 2: side of the game.
Speaker 3: Now I I And that's I think a question that
Speaker 3: I don't have a great answer to. And to that point,
Speaker 3: an article I found talked about how basically it said
Speaker 3: that forty percent of parents in America struggle with anxiety
Speaker 3: and depression as it relates to the idea of their
Speaker 3: children getting bullied. Not even like literally getting bullied, but
Speaker 3: just the idea of their children getting bullied or the
Speaker 3: possibility of them getting bullied gives them anxiety and depression,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that sixty nigga slipt good think about ahead of that.
Speaker 2: Look, I remember I got in a fight with the
Speaker 2: kid and a kid that I thought was my friend,
Speaker 2: and so I got my ass beat because I wasn't
Speaker 2: even I didn't even realize we were fighting until it's
Speaker 2: foot was on my face.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 2: Then like my dad was like, yo, what's going on
Speaker 2: that it's almost face.
Speaker 1: He's like, you have to go back on fight?
Speaker 2: And then I went back and again, and then like
Speaker 2: he had long mails, so like I didn't lose the fight,
Speaker 2: but he scratched my face.
Speaker 1: And now I'm like my.
Speaker 2: Dad's like, god, damn, I'm just like, you've never taken
Speaker 2: me to a boxing class.
Speaker 1: You ain't give me no tools.
Speaker 7: It's just like.
Speaker 3: He's like, wait, wait, wait, you're not strong. Wait hold on,
Speaker 3: you're not buff Okay, all right, what am I?
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm raising.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: I told you.
Speaker 4: I told you to be buffing strong. I don't know
Speaker 4: what this is that you're not.
Speaker 3: In that same article, I came across some of the
Speaker 3: things that they qualify as sort of like bullying as
Speaker 3: it relates to specifically today. They said that offensive name calling,
Speaker 3: spreading of false rumors about them, receiving explicit images they
Speaker 3: didn't ask for, constantly being asked where they are, what
Speaker 3: they're doing, or who they're with by someone other than
Speaker 3: a parent, physical threats. I think, yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think some of it might be some internet game shit
Speaker 3: that we don't quite understand. That like if somebody is
Speaker 3: persistently being like where are you and then like fucking
Speaker 3: with you about where you are? Maybe that that somehow
Speaker 3: is like some new age bullying. I don't fully get it,
Speaker 3: but I ain't never had no like internet bully, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: The false rumors is a that's a classic. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a class.
Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, that's a tale as old as time
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm thinking now to the question of what would
Speaker 4: you do if your son's What would you do on
Speaker 4: the other end of it? What if your son is
Speaker 4: the bully?
Speaker 3: That would devastate me a lot more than if he.
Speaker 4: If he's hilarious, Like what if they said, like they
Speaker 4: tell you you have to go on for a parent
Speaker 4: teacher conference, they explain whatever it was, and the shit
Speaker 4: you said your son said was like like so funny?
Speaker 4: All right, well what is the work on your character?
Speaker 4: For sure?
Speaker 3: But all right, hey, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 3: I also do remember I feel like I don't feel
Speaker 3: like I ever had a bully growing up. I don't
Speaker 3: know if y'all had that where like it was just
Speaker 3: like one person who was always at my neck and
Speaker 3: I was scared of them or felt intimidated intimidated by
Speaker 3: their presence. But I do remember like there was a
Speaker 3: culture of people just roasting the shit out of whoever
Speaker 3: was having a bad day, and you could get it.
Speaker 3: Anybody could get it. And I remember being a part
Speaker 3: of both giving it and getting it in that sense, right,
Speaker 3: And sometimes I was a part of giving it to
Speaker 3: somebody who couldn't handle it and we took it too far,
Speaker 3: But some of it was funny as fuck, and so
Speaker 3: like if I got reported inside of that, I feel
Speaker 3: like I had the context to be able to give
Speaker 3: to my parents, like no, I'm not a bully. I
Speaker 3: just was having a good day and they were not,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I was thriving and
Speaker 3: they weren't thriving. And the fact that they can't handle
Speaker 3: that is that's that's a character flaw and don't I
Speaker 3: don't know what to do about it. But I was
Speaker 3: killing it that day.
Speaker 4: You should have heard what I said, because.
Speaker 3: The circle form that I had my hand out, like
Speaker 3: this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have a theory that it doesn't ever.
Speaker 1: Really go away.
Speaker 4: No. I agree with that, Like with like.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, we've all had well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we've had jobs right where we like corporate, I guess,
Speaker 2: workplace kind of situations, and I feel like micro aggressions
Speaker 2: is like that's the that's the adult version of you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, We're okay, this is this is
Speaker 2: a different way. I'm but you know, as an adult,
Speaker 2: at least for me, I was like, I'm not. I
Speaker 2: wasn't used to the microaggression. Believe I was used to.
Speaker 1: Your shoes is too big for your feet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1: Just like a new weird thing. It's just like this
Speaker 1: is different. And I will say that it is it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same at.
Speaker 2: Least for my you know whatever degenerate brain where I'm
Speaker 2: just like, okay, I can learn how to turn this
Speaker 2: negative into a positive. You know, it's for me, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like the same thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I needed to learn how to make this thing constructed.
Speaker 2: For me, that was kind of like you know, tearing
Speaker 2: apart what you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always think about how much of the things
Speaker 3: that I said to people were not meant to be
Speaker 3: permanent for them and somehow might have been like I.
Speaker 3: And they talk about it a little bit in the
Speaker 3: first article that I read that like intent intentionality is
Speaker 3: a major part of what bullying is as well that
Speaker 3: like some of it is just roasting and being silly.
Speaker 3: I remember there was this one girl who who had
Speaker 3: like a lazy eye, and like it just it. I
Speaker 3: didn't know, truly, I didn't even know. Okay, okay, no,
Speaker 3: I swear to god, I didn't even know that she
Speaker 3: had the lazy eye before I said something. I just
Speaker 3: was like, well, what the fuck happened to her eye?
Speaker 4: On some like just.
Speaker 3: Being a kid saying the thing. And then she was like, no,
Speaker 3: I have a condition. And it was one of those
Speaker 3: where it's like that wasn't my plan. I like you,
Speaker 3: I plan to treat you with a level of decency.
Speaker 3: I just was talking shit because I probably felt weak
Speaker 3: or low or felt like that would have made me
Speaker 3: feel strong, just.
Speaker 1: Not thinking you just show up somewhere with some energy.
Speaker 1: You're just like yo.
Speaker 3: I was fifteen and noticed a weird eye and none
Speaker 3: of us had weird eyes. I was like, what's up?
Speaker 3: And then and then it got explained to me. And
Speaker 3: I felt a massive amount of guilt and I still do.
Speaker 3: And I wonder how much of that, like it's something
Speaker 3: she carries forward of being like, well that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, he said that shit unnecessarily when I
Speaker 3: was having a probably a fine day before that.
Speaker 1: She only fans model now because of that shit.
Speaker 3: I pray that what I did created a source of
Speaker 3: income for her. If that's true, then I'm a hero.
Speaker 3: If if if she hasn't figured out a way to
Speaker 3: capitalize on it, I'm a villain. And that stinks. You
Speaker 3: don't want to be that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm trying to think about I don't think
Speaker 4: I ever got any I guess I've maybe I've been
Speaker 4: a part of bullying that probably affected people in the
Speaker 4: long run. I mean, I did see on Instagram this
Speaker 4: kid we used to bully. That's funny, we talk about it.
Speaker 4: My mom used to make fun of this kid all day.
Speaker 4: He was the littlest He was the littlest kid on
Speaker 4: our football team. And it's crazy because my mom is little.
Speaker 4: She's like she's like four eleven five feet and she
Speaker 4: would always like and she doesn't know the game of football.
Speaker 4: She would just laugh at how he looks in his past,
Speaker 4: what he looks like when he would run, like all
Speaker 4: the thing, you know what I mean, all that type
Speaker 4: of stuff. He's a teacher now, which is you know smid.
Speaker 1: Your mom picking on kids. It's hilarious.
Speaker 4: There's truly no safety on it. It's truly anyone old people,
Speaker 4: slow people, fast people. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's because
Speaker 4: she worked with a lot of slow people, so she
Speaker 4: just feels like comfortable.
Speaker 3: I just wonder how, even even in thinking about your mom,
Speaker 3: how much of it if she thought that, like that
Speaker 3: little fella would be permanently affected by something she said,
Speaker 3: if that would would be something she wanted.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's just
Speaker 4: like the nature. I don't know, like incerely on that's
Speaker 4: just how people are, like you like you see people
Speaker 4: walk fucked up down the street, like if like I've
Speaker 4: just seen it with my cousins where somebody with a
Speaker 4: bad eye or some shit is walking down the street
Speaker 4: and you just can hear it from there and he
Speaker 4: passes and every everybody with us says something and he
Speaker 4: keeps you. It's just like that's just like how it
Speaker 4: is over there. So I don't think there's even a
Speaker 4: thought of that, Like they don't think of it as bullying.
Speaker 4: They think of it as like it feels almost like
Speaker 4: it's less of a reflection of the person and just
Speaker 4: just the situation, you know what I mean. It's funny
Speaker 4: that that hand looks weird or that that eye is goofy.
Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, this is not a competent person
Speaker 4: who can do whatever. They just got a funny eye.
Speaker 3: And here's what I'll say is when they talk about
Speaker 3: that conflation right between what we call bullying versus the
Speaker 3: things that actually are bullying, I do think that that
Speaker 3: needs to be acknowledged that Like, again, it's intentionality that
Speaker 3: like some people are going to make a point of
Speaker 3: saying something about the way that you look, the way
Speaker 3: that you talk, dress, all of the things. But are
Speaker 3: they attempting to take you out of your yourself or
Speaker 3: are they just like saying what the world is thinking
Speaker 3: about you? And you got to learn to have a
Speaker 3: little bit of a thicker skin about it, because that
Speaker 3: is the human experience, whether we like.
Speaker 4: It or not.
Speaker 3: There's there's a fair amount of evidence that no matter
Speaker 3: how sort of like sophisticated we become, we're still gonna
Speaker 3: be pieces and the ship to each other. So like
Speaker 3: you do have to learn to manage it.
Speaker 4: I think that's that is that's that is really important
Speaker 4: because it's like the idea of no bullying goes too
Speaker 4: far the other way, right, Like you can't create this
Speaker 4: perfect scenario where none of these issues are gonna be.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't. It isn't realistic. So I think there
Speaker 4: is an amount. I think mostly I'm gonna get sports
Speaker 4: azing the more about it.
Speaker 3: Like that just because you had such a deep familiarity
Speaker 3: to sports azing.
Speaker 4: Ah, I think that sports hazing I think that it
Speaker 4: others people more than traditional bullying.
Speaker 5: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: I think it's like you you're already other othering people
Speaker 4: by putting them in this position, and then you make
Speaker 4: that circle smaller, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 4: kind of like a system that runs on a whipping
Speaker 4: boy or whatever, Whereas I think traditional bullying is just
Speaker 4: like community, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody can
Speaker 4: everybody kind of feels some of it. Where it's like
Speaker 4: like I think about like at least in the high
Speaker 4: school I went to, we were allowed to do we
Speaker 4: operated with impunity, like there was no stop it or
Speaker 4: don't do that. And it was like a lot of
Speaker 4: times the strong on the weak, or the old on
Speaker 4: the young or whatever, you know what I mean, right, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it makes you I think.
Speaker 2: I think the other positive about it is it at
Speaker 2: least as a kid, it like it makes you very
Speaker 2: observant too, where you're just like, oh, I'm getting picked
Speaker 2: on because I'm different, Well what is different?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then you're kind of looking around and you're like
Speaker 2: noticing and like you like, I mean I would even
Speaker 2: the like you say, the culture of you know, ranking
Speaker 2: and everything like that. It's like you you now you're
Speaker 2: starting to look at other people and you're like, all right,
Speaker 2: they gonna come for me for something, all right now
Speaker 2: Now now I'm locked and loaded. I see, all right,
Speaker 2: Lanston got his hair cut, right, So you so you've
Speaker 2: got all of that. You know, you got you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, You got it, You got.
Speaker 1: It, locked and loaded. But it also is like it
Speaker 1: made me also.
Speaker 2: Look, I remember the time in high school where I
Speaker 2: was just like kind of noticing the kids that weren't
Speaker 2: getting bullied at all, and you know why they weren't
Speaker 2: getting bullied, and it was just like they were just
Speaker 2: so much inside of their own world. Even if you
Speaker 2: bullied them, it looked kind of like weird, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it was like I went to
Speaker 2: a diverse high school, so it was Indian kids, there's
Speaker 2: Asian kids, and you know, there's always the Asian, Indian
Speaker 2: and whatever that kind of assimilates the black culture. But
Speaker 2: then there were ones that didn't. They was just like
Speaker 2: in the band, It's like I played my trumpet, that's
Speaker 2: my thing, and I'm be like, yo, that's cool, and
Speaker 2: I would hang out with them some time to be like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this is like a safe haven.
Speaker 1: You can't really nobody really coming over here.
Speaker 2: That's it with nobody, because you just kind of look
Speaker 2: like an asshole with the kid with the tube. But
Speaker 2: he already played the tube, bro leave him alone.
Speaker 3: I like, I like that we need to take a break.
Speaker 3: But I really like that sentiment of sort of the
Speaker 3: the safe spaces, the safe haven because that sort of
Speaker 3: connects to a little bit of what the the articles
Speaker 3: that I read kind of say it's a solution to
Speaker 3: some of this.
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Speaker 4: But what doesn't stink is bullying? Is that not the
Speaker 4: is that?
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Speaker 4: I think you've been.
Speaker 1: At you tried to do Barbara Walters it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you really dropped the ball on that one.
Speaker 4: You know, players fuck up.
Speaker 3: I I will say that one of the these sort
Speaker 3: of bigger ass that the article makes at the end
Speaker 3: as it relates to bullying, is it says that at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, what we should be focused
Speaker 3: on is less of these individual experiences if somebody said
Speaker 3: this about me or made me feel small in this way,
Speaker 3: and it's more should instead be more focused on solutions
Speaker 3: to prevent those kinds of interactions in the first place.
Speaker 3: Right that, like, it's less about the what the kids
Speaker 3: are feeling and more about how can we reduce those
Speaker 3: negative interactions in totality. And I don't know that that
Speaker 3: is a solution as much as like a little bit
Speaker 3: of like a a theory. It's it's idealistic in a
Speaker 3: way that I don't fully know how to make sense of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not solving the problem in handed because you're
Speaker 4: always gonna run in the end the bullies.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: I was hanging out of Winnisburg a couple of days
Speaker 2: ago and just chilling, you know, sitting down people watching,
Speaker 2: and this girl walks across and she's crying in tears
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Rachel's gonna put me on the bad list, and then
Speaker 1: she just like kept walking.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, whatever her job is, it's insane
Speaker 2: and it's has such an emotional toll on her. And
Speaker 2: she walking through the street at five o'clock on a
Speaker 2: Tuesday crying, you know what I mean, It's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: that's going to She can't run away from that. I
Speaker 2: don't know what she do or nothing, but she can't
Speaker 2: run away from it. So, you know, to me, it's
Speaker 2: like the healthiest way to deal with stuff this type
Speaker 2: of thing is to make sure that you got.
Speaker 1: A solid routine.
Speaker 2: You're waking up, that you're doing stuff outside of you know,
Speaker 2: whatever the bully thing is.
Speaker 1: You find your happiness outside of that.
Speaker 2: So then when you are confronted with it, you can
Speaker 2: kind of you can kind of minimize it. Almost your
Speaker 2: brain will almost do it itself because you're just like, yo,
Speaker 2: I woke up, I ran today, I did my push ups,
Speaker 2: I read the thing I was supposed to read, I
Speaker 2: finished my homework da da, And it's just like it
Speaker 2: was one of it. It's like, yeah, but I had
Speaker 2: a full you know what I'm saying and kind of
Speaker 2: putting this sort of you know, small moment into perspective
Speaker 2: at least for me personally, you know, or.
Speaker 4: You're just like hit them, Yeah, I always hit them.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think it really is the challenge though,
Speaker 3: right that, Like I think about our job that, like,
Speaker 3: we have so much interaction as stand ups with other comedians,
Speaker 3: some of whom give me shit tons of anxiety to
Speaker 3: be around. And it's not because like of fear or
Speaker 3: like that they're necessarily bullying me. It's just like every
Speaker 3: conversation with some people is work, and sometimes it's work
Speaker 3: that is like combative and like takes something out of
Speaker 3: my energy, and if I don't figure out a way
Speaker 3: to manage whatever that is, it could turn into bullying.
Speaker 3: It could easily turn into something where like I do
Speaker 3: feel sort of like oppressed by another human being. But
Speaker 3: like you said, if I can find the center for
Speaker 3: me that supersedes that, then I'll be okay. But that's
Speaker 3: that's much easier said than done, especially as an adult
Speaker 3: man versus like a young child who doesn't have that
Speaker 3: much control over their life to begin with.
Speaker 1: Right, right right.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that would have to fall back on
Speaker 2: parenting because like even like you know, Instagram being something
Speaker 2: that these kids get constantly, online bullying or whatever.
Speaker 1: You might look at your thay you be like, damn.
Speaker 2: I only got you know, seventy five followers my pictures
Speaker 2: getting four likes.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big thing for kids. But it's
Speaker 1: like if you.
Speaker 2: Are here all day, then you're gonna feel it more.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, if you go whop you go,
Speaker 2: and then you look on it and you're like, man, whatever, bro,
Speaker 2: I touch grass, like, it's like I just I just
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, putting have a perspective really reduces you know,
Speaker 2: all of that all of that stress that you might
Speaker 2: get from that, at least for me, because you can't
Speaker 2: escape it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I personally, I've never loved this old generation ship
Speaker 3: where we go like you got a bulliant online bullying
Speaker 3: ain't bullian. I mean you gotta shad to my face
Speaker 3: if you're gonna hurt my feeling, It's like, no, that's bullying.
Speaker 3: I think what we were actually was pretty lightweight compared
Speaker 3: to what kids today are experiencing. The idea that adults
Speaker 3: could find out my greatest weaknesses, Like strangers I've never
Speaker 3: met before in my life could like tap on a
Speaker 3: picture and be like this kid is ugly and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna like it. That's a nightmare.
Speaker 2: I agree his wives from the other but he got
Speaker 2: so much space between you eyes.
Speaker 1: You do kind of look like a hammerhead shark, Like, damn.
Speaker 3: Fuck, come on man, you work at Costco. Why are
Speaker 3: you talking to me like this?
Speaker 7: And now you can put the gifts in there so
Speaker 7: so funny, God, damn Disney characters, you're like, it's.
Speaker 4: Pretty many mouths have to do with.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that kids today are somehow getting
Speaker 3: it easier or have like a more manageable situation. I
Speaker 3: think it's the exact opposite. And I do think unfortunately
Speaker 3: the only solution is to go outside and touch grass.
Speaker 3: But that you know that it's it's culture, and culture
Speaker 3: doesn't encourage us to touch grass as as kids, adults,
Speaker 3: any anybody anymore, and so it's hard to demand that
Speaker 3: of an entire generation who wasn't being raised that way.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: I seen I've seen something during the eclipse. Somebody was like,
Speaker 2: I seen a video, do it is like not. Niggas
Speaker 2: went outside and Dick wrote the sun today. Sam said,
Speaker 2: niggas can't even join the clips.
Speaker 3: Without It's not gonna happen again for another four hundred years.
Speaker 1: He said, the sun be there eight days they you're
Speaker 1: gonna Dick ride the sun. I'm like, yo, we can't even.
Speaker 4: Where.
Speaker 3: We live in a toxic, toxic world, man. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hard to know what what uh what is good
Speaker 3: for your character or bad for your character. But I
Speaker 3: do think if we could put a little bow on this,
Speaker 3: I do think objectively bullying is is probably a bad
Speaker 3: thing that some of us manage to to make beautiful
Speaker 3: on the back end that the bravest of us, somehow
Speaker 3: can can build bouquets from that shit flower you you
Speaker 3: offered me.
Speaker 2: That's Langsty's bowl. My bowl is from an article the
Speaker 2: Verge dot com says children who bully others have lower
Speaker 2: levels of inflammation later on in life.
Speaker 4: Do what you want.
Speaker 3: I was like, look, hey, if you flame somebody else,
Speaker 3: you ain't got no inflammation later.
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, you know, I mean
Speaker 9: wild choose wisely, choose wisely, get flamed or flamed.
Speaker 2: Imagine, imagine the nigga like going to the doctor, like
Speaker 2: you got a high inflammation.
Speaker 1: He just starts like A, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do about this. Go outside, start roasting people.
Speaker 4: Boy a little boy.
Speaker 1: Kid like, no, I gotta do this for my.
Speaker 4: Doctor said six months I prescriptions.
Speaker 10: I'm trying to live long enough to raise my That's great.
Speaker 3: All right, I think we did it. So you want
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