WEBVTT - The Swirly Proclamation (with Kevin Iso) 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.680 I want to see what Jonathan Major's wearing in high school. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:07.560 He was. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.639 I really don't want to know what he was wearing 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.560 in high school. I want to know if this became 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:13.360 this thing. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.560 Or was like this. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:23.400 That man was wearing top hats and Dutch clogs. That 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.760 is like weirdo. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:32.279 That's bugs is crazy, tugs crazy what. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.120 They carved him himself. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.680 Mom, they roasted my wittles again. It's like, all right, bro, 0:00:47.760 --> 0:01:02.480 you gotta stop calling them wish ship. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:00.920 Chips in your. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:12.679 Kuala bears are racist. The bows, the money, our turney stuff. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:14.880 I can't tell me. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:18.640 When I die. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.360 Bury me inside the Booty Club. There it is ladies 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.800 and gentlemen, gentiles and little Mama's aike. Welcome to another 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.319 phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.800 The podcast where we die deep into the pockets of 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.120 black conspiracy theories. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.040 And we finally work to prove that Lebron James is 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.880 never going to retire from the NBA until he gets 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.440 his oldest son into the league, Trinidad James. He wants 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.360 his boy to play with him, and he'll fight to 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.960 the end until sweet Trinidad makes. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:55.480 It to the league. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.360 That's that's my theory. I'm Linkeston Kerman and I'm excited 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:59.440 for the James family. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.560 I'm David Boy and that's my favorite James brother. James. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.440 I've seen him in a parking lot one time when 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:12.920 he was like on like in the middle of it. Ye, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:18.200 he looked good. He look is that parking garage behind 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.320 West Side Comedy Theater. Yeah, and he was in like 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.960 a hell cat and he was you look happy. I 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:31.240 got bad news, brother. He worked there now at Nigga 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:32.560 is parking cars. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.600 Now, I think. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.320 That's the okay life. Like one hit like the one 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.080 hit right, and then you just go on to do 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.639 whatever else you were going to do. I don't think 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:42.560 that's a bad life. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.760 Yeah, I think I think we should give more credit 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.240 to the people who just experienced the top of the 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.120 top for a second like that is such an impossible 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.959 thing to accomplish that the fact that he made it 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.240 up there is gorgeous and good for you, you Trinidad James. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.160 We're proud of you for everything that you've accomplished. We 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.200 miss you, We miss you. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.120 Man. Well, it's fine, we did what we could with you. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.560 It's a good summer. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.280 Our guess today, I don't know how he feels about 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.800 Trinidad James his eyes, his eyes were darting in a 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.840 way that I'm not sure he's convinced that Trinidad's legacy 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.080 is as rich and fulfilled as we think it is. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.959 But I'm excited to hear how he feels about it. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.480 He's He's a hilarious comedian, a returning guest on the podcast. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.160 Just a funny motherfucker, one of my favorite people to 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.240 hang out with. You know him best from Flatbush Misdemeanors. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.680 He's one of the creators and stars of that show 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.200 that damn Michael Jay. He was a writer, and he 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.200 has his own hour coming up September twenty ninth at 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.600 Union Hall seven point thirty. By your goddamn tickets. They're 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.280 gonna want to see him perform. Give it up for 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.520 our guest, mister Kevin. I. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.400 So she pulls out her breast and she's juggling them, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.800 look like she's about the fall over. Then she bends 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:07.000 over and pulls down her pennies, spreads her cheeks. I'm 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.720 not lying, I'm telling what's on the video. Spreads her cheeks. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.000 This is madness. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:23.160 Where is that from? I was expecting, like a clap 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:23.719 or something. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:31.400 That's how we do things. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:32.839 Spreds. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.120 This is madness. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.000 They sound like Bernie mad. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.880 There's a I guess, a viral video of a teacher 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.400 that got exposed on her only fans, and this is 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:54.000 the the prosecuting lawyer for the school, for the school 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.320 board shaming her for for all the things that she 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.240 did in her only fans video, if I'm remembering correct. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.080 Which, by the way, that's what I always wish court 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.160 was come ons in the courtroom. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.280 Yeah, it made me so mad when I found out 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.320 that like most most trials don't go I mean most 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.760 like fucking lawsuits don't go to trial. That there's not 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.120 the theatrics are not a part of the traditional lawyer 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.120 experience at all. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.440 Court, even when you get in trouble, court is boring 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:24.840 as ship. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.520 I haven't experienced it, but but it seems like. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.640 It would be. You've never been to court even for 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.120 like a ticket? No what no? 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:39.240 Mm hmm, so life skin privilege. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.280 Now, I just don't fight it. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.680 I just pay it. I just young, I used to 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.000 them when I have no money. Yeah, you've never been 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.520 in court for anybody else either. No, I'm not gonna 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.960 help you if you go down. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.359 What do you want me to be a character witness? 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.880 No, no, no, it's just like emotional supporter. Like you 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:10.359 never have you ever been in court at all, like 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:10.960 for anything. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.120 I have been at court a few times my dad. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.520 I've talked about this a little bit on the podcast. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.680 My dad. You know, his profession is, uh, he's an 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:28.719 it guy, but his passion is communism, and so he 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.480 is often he has he has friends, he has people 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.680 that he's sort of like actively supporting that like have 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.039 had court cases, and I've gone to court with him 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.960 a few times to like be a part of witnessing, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.640 you know, the things that are transpiring. But I've never 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.480 personally had any like stakes and the ship. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.200 You don't talk about it, but you're the wildest guy. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.280 Yeah, Now, I got some weird shit going on at home. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:54.560 Man. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.640 You know you went to communism trials. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:08.160 It wasn't communism. They are intense cases that I've been 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.520 to though. It's like it's going to jail for for 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.240 very extreme things that are going to like keep them 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.640 there for the rest of their lives. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:16.920 That's core. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.920 You've been to quarter yeah, yeah, but but you know 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.080 I got a happy meal afterwards. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:23.640 I was chewing. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.160 Kevin, have you been to court? Are you a court guy? 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.040 I mean yeah, when I didn't have when I didn't, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.680 like I said, when I was like having to fight 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:40.160 tickets whatever, speeding, but nothing serious like my little brother 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.800 is more serious stuff. But that that, uh, that clip 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:45.720 is interesting to me. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.240 Because marinating on this col. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.680 Because Bro like was very descriptive like he was. It 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.880 seemed like he watched more than he needed to, you 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:03.320 know what, you know, pulling down her pants, spreads her bunchies, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:09.600 sticks her finger in her ass, lacks the finger. Thirty 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.520 four minutes of this. You know, I don't know if 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.640 you need to see. Oh, like, you could have just 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:17.320 kind of seen the thumbnail and been. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.120 Like, a she willden you know what she was bros. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.440 Bro was like, nah, I got research for court. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.760 Yeah, I mean you know what she was up to it. Moreover, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.640 you didn't have to watch it that many times. You 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.480 it a few times. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.079 You had the bookmarket judge like, all right, that's enough. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.240 He's like, no, no, no, that's another one. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:40.319 When she get a banana, right, she pulls down her pennies. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:58.120 He's sweating while he's talking about the Cloyd. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.640 Thirty two creat. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:11.520 Juggling breast, Victoria's Secret, Danny's ball line. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:16.040 We didn't come here to talk about goddamn perverts on 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.200 the internet. We got a topic from you, Kevin, A 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.400 very exciting topic. I wouldn't necessarily qualify this as a 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.120 specifically black topic, but I do think it is very 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:32.520 much an active conversation in many black households, So I'm 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.160 excited to cover it. But you said, my mama told 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.920 me bullying it's healthy. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:53.079 Yeah, okay, so not still healthy because it's but and 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.160 as it's like she didn't tell me this, Yes, she 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:57.800 showed me this. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.680 You know what I mean. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.839 It wasn't a conversation, but it was that bullying is 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.000 healthy through her actions. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.640 Yeah, I watched my mom. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.000 I mean, my mom bullied us, you know what I mean, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.480 Like like like I remember, like even my teeth, Like 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.600 my mom was constantly like she stopped. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:20.800 She doesn't do it as much now. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.200 When I used to like go back home like maybe 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.920 like five seven years ago, she'd just be like, we 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:26.680 are you gonna. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:31.160 Fix your teeth? Like Anna, you're braces, And I'm just like, yo, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.040 this was your responsibility. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.760 She gave it to me, lady, I'm an adult. Now 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.080 you could have done something about this, yeah, But. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.200 I'm like, but it's not. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.679 It's like it creates I mean, the thing is that 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.800 it creates character, right or. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.319 At this point. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.880 Because at this point because at this point, like I 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.480 don't know, if you're bullied about something that you're insecure about, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.160 it can create character. Should Yeah, But if you're bullied 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.839 about something that you're insecure about, there's two ways to 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.600 kind of go about it. One is to like run 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.080 and hide from this ship, or the others to like 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.040 lean into it and be like, so, what mother fucker 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.679 shit is the way that it is, you know. And 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.160 that's when I see like the health side of it. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.720 That's what I kind of mean, where it's just like, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.200 you know, you can only go through something so long 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.400 before you're just like, oh, I'm finnah still just be 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.599 ashamed about this shit everywhere I go. It's like you 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.320 not heard every angle that could possibly kind of you know, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:39.520 and then you just suffer in silence like a real man, just. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:49.960 Go Okay, Bory, where do you fall in this? Or 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.560 are you are you? Are you? Would you identify as 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.880 somebody who was a victim of bullying at any point 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:56.320 in your. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:12:02.080 Life younger, younger for sure. I'm soft hearted and tender headed, 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.840 so younger for sure. And then I start once sports 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.600 started up and stuff like that, it kind of wasn't 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.920 like that anymore. I So I hear this all the time. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.040 My mom also big proponent of bullying, making fun of 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:23.120 the less fortunate physically or otherwise. Huge fan, hilarious woman. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.839 But I don't agree with this just because it's like, yeah, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.720 there are two ways, but I feel like only the 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.640 top tier of people overcome it. Most people just let 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:43.800 it become deep seated in and develop terrible habits to 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.240 overcome it. Right, Like, So if we're looking at it 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.680 like dealing with people on the whole, yes, there is 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:54.840 that twenty percent who for sure become better people because 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.720 of bullying. But then there's like the eighty percent who 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.000 developed drinking problems and eating disorders, and that's where you 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.240 gotta like worry about, you know what I mean? 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.920 Yeah, I think it's I think it's more than twenty percent, 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.559 though you think it's more than Yeah, absolutely, I feel 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.319 like it's more than twenty percent because bullying, like bullying 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.319 even today, like women bully broke dudes all the time. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.320 Okay, broke, My fucking what you want to do. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:29.440 It's bullied, it's brilliant. You're broke shaming me, and. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.880 It works for a lot of people where they's just 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.640 like I, that's what I need to not be called broke, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.840 and then you turn. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.120 It off, you know, Floyd Mayweather type. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.840 But but there's one Floyd Mayweather. Most dudes are broke. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:45.560 No, no, no, no. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.040 I mean like personality where niggas think they money is 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.720 they they hold? Mean, you know what I'm saying, like 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.400 you go out like nigga, I got money, nigga, what 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.480 the fuck she should want to you know what I'm saying. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.440 But that's that's that's the unhealthy part of it. But 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.360 you're not broken no more, you know what I mean. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.800 So what was I gonna say? 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:12.280 Oh my, so my mom, my mom, this is going great. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.680 I don't know what I'll be honest, I'm scared. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:16.520 I'm a little. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.200 Well because because the physical I want to hear. I 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:20.760 want to hear. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.480 I want to hear what your mom was saying to people, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.960 because I seen my mom say something that this woman 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.000 she was short in fact, and my mom said. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.640 She said she looked like a penguin. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.400 That was funny. That's hilarious. That's that is hilarious. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:46.880 Now she ain't do anything about it, but yeah, this 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.440 is but okay, so this is but this is where 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.040 this is where I'm going with it. And I ain't 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.640 even finished the full when I started. But bullying, I 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.440 feel like it's healthy for the bullier. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:14:58.600 Mm hmm. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.200 Yeah. Is that was that up for grabs? 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.080 I think the I always knew that the bully was 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.840 having a good time, a great time. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.960 It's fun to bully people. That's not what the argument. Yeah, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:18.880 I would is that what we're talking about. Yeah, it 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.280 is great, it's hilarious, it's really fun to bully people. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.480 That's I don't know that that's I don't know that 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:30.080 that's the population we were looking to save. But certainly, certainly, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.760 I think we should acknowledge that there is a big 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.800 population of bullies that are becoming more empowered, riving, thriving, Yeah. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.680 For sure. But I hate that idea when people when 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.200 usually bullies, it's the only bullies, you take that stance 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.880 where they're like, no, I was trying to help you. No, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.960 you're a mean, very funny person. It's not like like 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.200 you're not like an arbiter of justice. You're not. It 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.720 is in no means any type of care for the 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.400 like subject of the bullying, and if allowed, it will 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.520 get taken. Two extremes in football, we could we put 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.040 a get in the trash can. We cut people's hair 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.080 who didn't want it to have happened, like right, like 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.560 if you just let it run rampantly and what and 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:13.840 what that? 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.680 And what that kid do? He knew not to come. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:16.600 Around on football. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.040 He found out that it wasn't healthy for him to 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.680 be around the people. And so he was like, Yo, I'm. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.400 A finer, And who knows if y'all didn't throw him 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.680 in that trash can, he probably still been around trying 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.360 to become Ladani and Thomason and some goofy ship. But 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.720 since y'all throw him in that trash can, he was like, yo, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.760 I'm really good at accounting, and they he went over 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.720 there and started the account. 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.680 That's not how I remember it ending. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.760 No, he turned his dookie off the wire. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.880 He just he just kept he kept going to school 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.040 with us. He just seems sad. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:56.920 Yeah, he just felt low because yeah, just everything everything 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.320 he had invested in rejected him. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.080 Yeah, what's he doing right now, I don't check out 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.880 if he was it a trash can I'm a winner. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.280 Yeah, I do think I sort of fall somewhere in 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.080 the middle where I do recognize that like there is 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.480 character building in sort of like overcoming adversity. That said, 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.240 I don't think that there's any level of like Batman 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.240 this inside of the bully's efforts, you know what I mean, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.200 Like they're not seeking a greater good. They're just being mean, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.800 bad people who some of us manage to like overcome, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:38.080 ye know what I mean? 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.120 And yeah, moved. I also think there's a level of 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.119 like that overcoming things in that way because of that 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.280 reason breeds more like you take someone who is well 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.640 accomplished because they just had like a good family or whatever, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.960 and you see where they go in the world versus 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.040 someone who is just mercilessly bullied. The second one is 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:07.880 usually a cyclepath not broke for sure, nuts because it's 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.320 like it comes out of like like I don't know, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.120 I just think I get it. I do think there's 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.679 a level where you should, like and there's some things 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:20.440 like you know, hygiene and ship like that where it's like, yeah, 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.199 you kind of got to bully people to keep them 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.080 in line on that. But like, for the most part, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.960 I don't think it. I don't think that it helps 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.320 that much. I don't think it helps as much as 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.480 bullies wanted to. And I fully acknowledge the bullies are hilarious. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.440 I don't think they want to want it to help. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.679 Yeah, right, right, right, right right. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:46.640 I think I believe that it can, is all I'm saying. Yeah, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.760 I think that's I believe that it can't. Like I 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.840 think I think Kyane was bullied, you know what I 0:18:52.920 --> 0:19:02.120 mean that. I know it's doing great right now, amazing, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:03.880 it's a phenomenal life. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.280 It kind of fell off in the last but the 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.520 first thirty eight. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.959 That's truly, that's true. He did, bro he did. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.440 He reached the heights of heights. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.560 That he's rich forever, and that's cool. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.000 I guess that's the problem with Trinidad James. He ain't 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:22.800 get bullied enough. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:31.440 Wa also mediocre production. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:33.600 It was a lot. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.320 Yeah, I definitely think that there is a level of 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:44.080 like a need to overcome in order to be your best, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.040 strongest self, right, Like, I think that is just a 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.199 fact of humanity that like nobody can like live a 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.320 life without any adversity and expect to be sort of 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.760 a full person on the other side of it. That said, 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.000 I've always felt life is kind of hard enough, Like 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.960 life just be doing ship to you without anybody's involvement. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.840 And so the fact that like some kid comes to 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.359 school and it's like, I'm gona punch him in the 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.080 head just to make him different than he is. It's like, bro, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.760 I got enough going on at home. 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.400 Your grandma's gonna die anyways, she's on her way out. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.320 My my mom ain't. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.240 Making good choices, But dad, don't talk. What do you 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.240 want for me? That that this punch is gonna like 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:29.840 help make happen. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:31.919 So so okay. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.280 So that's a form of bullying that is can be 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:44.360 very destructive. Now, now let's talk about the constructive bullying. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.760 I mean not constructive, but can lead to constructive like 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.960 character building. Like let's say, clothing, that's a that's a 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.359 huge issue for kids in high school. What you wear, 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.600 how you look, your presentation, all that. A lot of 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.960 kids can't afford the nicest clothes. I know, this is 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.400 me actually out of hand now more so than ever 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.560 because of Instagram and everything. Because you know, you used 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.720 to be able to wear your Monday outfit, you know, 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.040 on Friday, and then kind of like rotate around for the. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:15.600 You know what I mean? 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:23.120 Yeah, yeah, but I think likes to know specifically, I'll 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:23.560 be honest. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.760 We talked about this on one of our more recent 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.119 episodes about I was swapping clothes just like that and 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.800 it was working great until it wasn't. And then I 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.639 got a my fair share of bullet for Yeah, I 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:48.560 got caught. I got caught up, but I was in 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:49.400 fashion court. 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.640 There's too much platinum food, man, yo, that I mean, 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.840 that's how I got I got called once because my 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:04.240 dad was trying to save money. 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.760 That's where it always starts. They trying to save money. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.679 And I had some footballs in middle school, but like 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:15.560 they was on sale, but they was two sizeses bigger 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:16.399 than my foot. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.640 Damn damn. Big shoes is the one you can't Big 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:22.800 sh bro. 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.240 You know. You know he right, You're gonna grow into him. 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:29.920 I'm gonna score. 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:30.119 You know. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.000 They called him ships out but I didn't even walk 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.000 for the like twenty minutes I said that. 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.919 I said, You're like, no, Kevin, You're gonna be a 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.960 size fourteen. Watch you won't you won't see you're gonna 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:44.200 be a fourteen, I'm sure. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.080 Yeah, big shoes is that's because there's nothing you could 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.919 do with that. You look like an idiot, even if 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.680 they were real big. It's terrible. 0:22:55.280 --> 0:23:00.600 It's bad, bad, But but I think. 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.879 I think on the closing side of things, like in 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:05.680 a way it creates style a little bit. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.480 It can Yeah, did you freak those big shoes in 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:10.840 a way that oh no, I. 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:15.560 Never war again in my life. I thought, you know, 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.760 it's crazy that I remember. I got away with it. 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.600 I got away with it for most of the day. 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.359 I remember that like I got away with it. It 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.359 was like probably to like the last like hour of school. 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:34.760 It was like, oh, that's that's how you lose, because 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:35.440 you get comfortable. 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.640 Like yeah, here's what I'll say though, And and as 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.200