1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: I want to see what Jonathan Major's wearing in high school. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He was. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: I really don't want to know what he was wearing 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: in high school. I want to know if this became 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: this thing. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Or was like this. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: That man was wearing top hats and Dutch clogs. That 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: is like weirdo. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: That's bugs is crazy, tugs crazy what. 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: They carved him himself. 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: Mom, they roasted my wittles again. It's like, all right, bro, 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: you gotta stop calling them wish ship. 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Chips in your. 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: Kuala bears are racist. The bows, the money, our turney stuff. 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I can't tell me. 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: When I die. 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: Bury me inside the Booty Club. There it is ladies 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: and gentlemen, gentiles and little Mama's aike. Welcome to another 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me. 20 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: The podcast where we die deep into the pockets of 21 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: black conspiracy theories. 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: And we finally work to prove that Lebron James is 23 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: never going to retire from the NBA until he gets 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: his oldest son into the league, Trinidad James. He wants 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: his boy to play with him, and he'll fight to 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: the end until sweet Trinidad makes. 27 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: It to the league. 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: That's that's my theory. I'm Linkeston Kerman and I'm excited 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: for the James family. 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: I'm David Boy and that's my favorite James brother. James. 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: I've seen him in a parking lot one time when 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: he was like on like in the middle of it. Ye, 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: he looked good. He look is that parking garage behind 34 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: West Side Comedy Theater. Yeah, and he was in like 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: a hell cat and he was you look happy. I 36 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: got bad news, brother. He worked there now at Nigga 37 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: is parking cars. 38 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Now, I think. 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: That's the okay life. Like one hit like the one 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: hit right, and then you just go on to do 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: whatever else you were going to do. I don't think 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: that's a bad life. 43 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we should give more credit 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: to the people who just experienced the top of the 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: top for a second like that is such an impossible 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: thing to accomplish that the fact that he made it 47 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: up there is gorgeous and good for you, you Trinidad James. 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: We're proud of you for everything that you've accomplished. We 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: miss you, We miss you. 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Man. Well, it's fine, we did what we could with you. 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: It's a good summer. 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: Our guess today, I don't know how he feels about 53 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: Trinidad James his eyes, his eyes were darting in a 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: way that I'm not sure he's convinced that Trinidad's legacy 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: is as rich and fulfilled as we think it is. 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: But I'm excited to hear how he feels about it. 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: He's He's a hilarious comedian, a returning guest on the podcast. 58 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: Just a funny motherfucker, one of my favorite people to 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: hang out with. You know him best from Flatbush Misdemeanors. 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: He's one of the creators and stars of that show 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: that damn Michael Jay. He was a writer, and he 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: has his own hour coming up September twenty ninth at 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Union Hall seven point thirty. By your goddamn tickets. They're 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: gonna want to see him perform. Give it up for 65 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: our guest, mister Kevin. I. 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: So she pulls out her breast and she's juggling them, 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: look like she's about the fall over. Then she bends 68 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: over and pulls down her pennies, spreads her cheeks. I'm 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: not lying, I'm telling what's on the video. Spreads her cheeks. 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: This is madness. 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: Where is that from? I was expecting, like a clap 72 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: or something. 73 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: That's how we do things. 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Spreds. 75 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: This is madness. 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: They sound like Bernie mad. 77 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: There's a I guess, a viral video of a teacher 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: that got exposed on her only fans, and this is 79 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: the the prosecuting lawyer for the school, for the school 80 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: board shaming her for for all the things that she 81 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: did in her only fans video, if I'm remembering correct. 82 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, that's what I always wish court 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: was come ons in the courtroom. 84 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it made me so mad when I found out 85 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: that like most most trials don't go I mean most 86 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: like fucking lawsuits don't go to trial. That there's not 87 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: the theatrics are not a part of the traditional lawyer 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: experience at all. 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: Court, even when you get in trouble, court is boring 90 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: as ship. 91 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: I haven't experienced it, but but it seems like. 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: It would be. You've never been to court even for 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: like a ticket? No what no? 94 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, so life skin privilege. 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: Now, I just don't fight it. 96 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: I just pay it. I just young, I used to 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: them when I have no money. Yeah, you've never been 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: in court for anybody else either. No, I'm not gonna 99 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: help you if you go down. 100 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: What do you want me to be a character witness? 101 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's just like emotional supporter. Like you 102 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: never have you ever been in court at all, like 103 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: for anything. 104 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: I have been at court a few times my dad. 105 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: I've talked about this a little bit on the podcast. 106 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: My dad. You know, his profession is, uh, he's an 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: it guy, but his passion is communism, and so he 108 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: is often he has he has friends, he has people 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: that he's sort of like actively supporting that like have 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: had court cases, and I've gone to court with him 111 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: a few times to like be a part of witnessing, 112 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: you know, the things that are transpiring. But I've never 113 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: personally had any like stakes and the ship. 114 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: You don't talk about it, but you're the wildest guy. 115 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I got some weird shit going on at home. 116 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Man. 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: You know you went to communism trials. 118 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't communism. They are intense cases that I've been 119 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: to though. It's like it's going to jail for for 120 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: very extreme things that are going to like keep them 121 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: there for the rest of their lives. 122 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: That's core. 123 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: You've been to quarter yeah, yeah, but but you know 124 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: I got a happy meal afterwards. 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: I was chewing. 126 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: Kevin, have you been to court? Are you a court guy? 127 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, when I didn't have when I didn't, 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: like I said, when I was like having to fight 129 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: tickets whatever, speeding, but nothing serious like my little brother 130 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: is more serious stuff. But that that, uh, that clip 131 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: is interesting to me. 132 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: Because marinating on this col. 133 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: Because Bro like was very descriptive like he was. It 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: seemed like he watched more than he needed to, you 135 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: know what, you know, pulling down her pants, spreads her bunchies, 136 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: sticks her finger in her ass, lacks the finger. Thirty 137 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: four minutes of this. You know, I don't know if 138 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: you need to see. Oh, like, you could have just 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: kind of seen the thumbnail and been. 140 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: Like, a she willden you know what she was bros. 141 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Bro was like, nah, I got research for court. 142 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know what she was up to it. Moreover, 143 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: you didn't have to watch it that many times. You 144 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: it a few times. 145 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: You had the bookmarket judge like, all right, that's enough. 146 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, that's another one. 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: When she get a banana, right, she pulls down her pennies. 148 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: He's sweating while he's talking about the Cloyd. 149 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: Thirty two creat. 150 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: Juggling breast, Victoria's Secret, Danny's ball line. 151 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: We didn't come here to talk about goddamn perverts on 152 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: the internet. We got a topic from you, Kevin, A 153 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: very exciting topic. I wouldn't necessarily qualify this as a 154 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: specifically black topic, but I do think it is very 155 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: much an active conversation in many black households, So I'm 156 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: excited to cover it. But you said, my mama told 157 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: me bullying it's healthy. 158 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so not still healthy because it's but and 159 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: as it's like she didn't tell me this, Yes, she 160 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: showed me this. 161 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: It wasn't a conversation, but it was that bullying is 163 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: healthy through her actions. 164 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched my mom. 165 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: I mean, my mom bullied us, you know what I mean, 166 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: Like like like I remember, like even my teeth, Like 167 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: my mom was constantly like she stopped. 168 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: She doesn't do it as much now. 169 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: When I used to like go back home like maybe 170 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: like five seven years ago, she'd just be like, we 171 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: are you gonna. 172 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Fix your teeth? Like Anna, you're braces, And I'm just like, yo, 173 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: this was your responsibility. 174 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: She gave it to me, lady, I'm an adult. Now 175 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: you could have done something about this, yeah, But. 176 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, but it's not. 177 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: It's like it creates I mean, the thing is that 178 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: it creates character, right or. 179 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: At this point. 180 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Because at this point because at this point, like I 181 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: don't know, if you're bullied about something that you're insecure about, 182 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: it can create character. Should Yeah, But if you're bullied 183 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: about something that you're insecure about, there's two ways to 184 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: kind of go about it. One is to like run 185 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: and hide from this ship, or the others to like 186 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: lean into it and be like, so, what mother fucker 187 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: shit is the way that it is, you know. And 188 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: that's when I see like the health side of it. 189 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: That's what I kind of mean, where it's just like, 190 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: you know, you can only go through something so long 191 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: before you're just like, oh, I'm finnah still just be 192 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 2: ashamed about this shit everywhere I go. It's like you 193 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: not heard every angle that could possibly kind of you know, 194 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: and then you just suffer in silence like a real man, just. 195 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: Go Okay, Bory, where do you fall in this? Or 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: are you are you? Are you? Would you identify as 197 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: somebody who was a victim of bullying at any point 198 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: in your. 199 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: Life younger, younger for sure. I'm soft hearted and tender headed, 200 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: so younger for sure. And then I start once sports 201 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: started up and stuff like that, it kind of wasn't 202 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: like that anymore. I So I hear this all the time. 203 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: My mom also big proponent of bullying, making fun of 204 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: the less fortunate physically or otherwise. Huge fan, hilarious woman. 205 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: But I don't agree with this just because it's like, yeah, 206 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: there are two ways, but I feel like only the 207 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: top tier of people overcome it. Most people just let 208 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: it become deep seated in and develop terrible habits to 209 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: overcome it. Right, Like, So if we're looking at it 210 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: like dealing with people on the whole, yes, there is 211 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: that twenty percent who for sure become better people because 212 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 4: of bullying. But then there's like the eighty percent who 213 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: developed drinking problems and eating disorders, and that's where you 214 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: gotta like worry about, you know what I mean? 215 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's more than twenty percent, 216 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: though you think it's more than Yeah, absolutely, I feel 217 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: like it's more than twenty percent because bullying, like bullying 218 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: even today, like women bully broke dudes all the time. 219 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: Okay, broke, My fucking what you want to do. 220 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: It's bullied, it's brilliant. You're broke shaming me, and. 221 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: It works for a lot of people where they's just 222 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: like I, that's what I need to not be called broke, 223 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: and then you turn. 224 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: It off, you know, Floyd Mayweather type. 225 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 4: But but there's one Floyd Mayweather. Most dudes are broke. 226 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. 227 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean like personality where niggas think they money is 228 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: they they hold? Mean, you know what I'm saying, like 229 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: you go out like nigga, I got money, nigga, what 230 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: the fuck she should want to you know what I'm saying. 231 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: But that's that's that's the unhealthy part of it. But 232 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: you're not broken no more, you know what I mean. 233 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: So what was I gonna say? 234 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh my, so my mom, my mom, this is going great. 235 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll be honest, I'm scared. 236 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm a little. 237 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Well because because the physical I want to hear. I 238 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: want to hear. 239 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: I want to hear what your mom was saying to people, 240 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: because I seen my mom say something that this woman 241 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: she was short in fact, and my mom said. 242 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: She said she looked like a penguin. 243 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: That was funny. That's hilarious. That's that is hilarious. 244 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Now she ain't do anything about it, but yeah, this 245 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: is but okay, so this is but this is where 246 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: this is where I'm going with it. And I ain't 247 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: even finished the full when I started. But bullying, I 248 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: feel like it's healthy for the bullier. 249 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 7: Mm hmm. 250 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Is that was that up for grabs? 251 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: I think the I always knew that the bully was 252 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: having a good time, a great time. 253 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: It's fun to bully people. That's not what the argument. Yeah, 254 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: I would is that what we're talking about. Yeah, it 255 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: is great, it's hilarious, it's really fun to bully people. 256 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: That's I don't know that that's I don't know that 257 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: that's the population we were looking to save. But certainly, certainly, 258 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: I think we should acknowledge that there is a big 259 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: population of bullies that are becoming more empowered, riving, thriving, Yeah. 260 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: For sure. But I hate that idea when people when 261 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: usually bullies, it's the only bullies, you take that stance 262 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: where they're like, no, I was trying to help you. No, 263 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: you're a mean, very funny person. It's not like like 264 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: you're not like an arbiter of justice. You're not. It 265 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: is in no means any type of care for the 266 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: like subject of the bullying, and if allowed, it will 267 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: get taken. Two extremes in football, we could we put 268 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: a get in the trash can. We cut people's hair 269 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: who didn't want it to have happened, like right, like 270 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: if you just let it run rampantly and what and 271 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: what that? 272 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: And what that kid do? He knew not to come. 273 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: Around on football. 274 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: He found out that it wasn't healthy for him to 275 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: be around the people. And so he was like, Yo, I'm. 276 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: A finer, And who knows if y'all didn't throw him 277 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: in that trash can, he probably still been around trying 278 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: to become Ladani and Thomason and some goofy ship. But 279 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: since y'all throw him in that trash can, he was like, yo, 280 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm really good at accounting, and they he went over 281 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: there and started the account. 282 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: That's not how I remember it ending. 283 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: No, he turned his dookie off the wire. 284 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: He just he just kept he kept going to school 285 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: with us. He just seems sad. 286 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just felt low because yeah, just everything everything 287 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: he had invested in rejected him. 288 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's he doing right now, I don't check out 289 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: if he was it a trash can I'm a winner. 290 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think I sort of fall somewhere in 291 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: the middle where I do recognize that like there is 292 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: character building in sort of like overcoming adversity. That said, 293 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any level of like Batman 294 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: this inside of the bully's efforts, you know what I mean, 295 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: Like they're not seeking a greater good. They're just being mean, 296 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: bad people who some of us manage to like overcome, 297 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: ye know what I mean? 298 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, moved. I also think there's a level of 299 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: like that overcoming things in that way because of that 300 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: reason breeds more like you take someone who is well 301 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 4: accomplished because they just had like a good family or whatever, 302 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: and you see where they go in the world versus 303 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: someone who is just mercilessly bullied. The second one is 304 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: usually a cyclepath not broke for sure, nuts because it's 305 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: like it comes out of like like I don't know, 306 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: I just think I get it. I do think there's 307 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: a level where you should, like and there's some things 308 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: like you know, hygiene and ship like that where it's like, yeah, 309 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 4: you kind of got to bully people to keep them 310 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: in line on that. But like, for the most part, 311 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: I don't think it. I don't think that it helps 312 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: that much. I don't think it helps as much as 313 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: bullies wanted to. And I fully acknowledge the bullies are hilarious. 314 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to want it to help. 315 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right, right right. 316 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: I think I believe that it can, is all I'm saying. Yeah, 317 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: I think that's I believe that it can't. Like I 318 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: think I think Kyane was bullied, you know what I 319 00:18:52,920 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: mean that. I know it's doing great right now, amazing, 320 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: it's a phenomenal life. 321 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: It kind of fell off in the last but the 322 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: first thirty eight. 323 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 4: That's truly, that's true. He did, bro he did. 324 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: He reached the heights of heights. 325 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: That he's rich forever, and that's cool. 326 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I guess that's the problem with Trinidad James. He ain't 327 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: get bullied enough. 328 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: Wa also mediocre production. 329 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: It was a lot. 330 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that there is a level of 331 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: like a need to overcome in order to be your best, 332 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: strongest self, right, Like, I think that is just a 333 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 3: fact of humanity that like nobody can like live a 334 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: life without any adversity and expect to be sort of 335 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: a full person on the other side of it. That said, 336 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: I've always felt life is kind of hard enough, Like 337 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: life just be doing ship to you without anybody's involvement. 338 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: And so the fact that like some kid comes to 339 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: school and it's like, I'm gona punch him in the 340 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: head just to make him different than he is. It's like, bro, 341 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: I got enough going on at home. 342 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: Your grandma's gonna die anyways, she's on her way out. 343 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: My my mom ain't. 344 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: Making good choices, But dad, don't talk. What do you 345 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: want for me? That that this punch is gonna like 346 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: help make happen. 347 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: So so okay. 348 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: So that's a form of bullying that is can be 349 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: very destructive. Now, now let's talk about the constructive bullying. 350 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: I mean not constructive, but can lead to constructive like 351 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: character building. Like let's say, clothing, that's a that's a 352 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: huge issue for kids in high school. What you wear, 353 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: how you look, your presentation, all that. A lot of 354 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: kids can't afford the nicest clothes. I know, this is 355 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: me actually out of hand now more so than ever 356 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: because of Instagram and everything. Because you know, you used 357 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: to be able to wear your Monday outfit, you know, 358 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: on Friday, and then kind of like rotate around for the. 359 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 360 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I think likes to know specifically, I'll 361 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 4: be honest. 362 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: We talked about this on one of our more recent 363 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: episodes about I was swapping clothes just like that and 364 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: it was working great until it wasn't. And then I 365 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: got a my fair share of bullet for Yeah, I 366 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: got caught. I got caught up, but I was in 367 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: fashion court. 368 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: There's too much platinum food, man, yo, that I mean, 369 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: that's how I got I got called once because my 370 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: dad was trying to save money. 371 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: That's where it always starts. They trying to save money. 372 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: And I had some footballs in middle school, but like 373 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: they was on sale, but they was two sizeses bigger 374 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: than my foot. 375 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: Damn damn. Big shoes is the one you can't Big 376 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: sh bro. 377 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: You know. You know he right, You're gonna grow into him. 378 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna score. 379 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 7: You know. 380 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: They called him ships out but I didn't even walk 381 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: for the like twenty minutes I said that. 382 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: I said, You're like, no, Kevin, You're gonna be a 383 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: size fourteen. Watch you won't you won't see you're gonna 384 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: be a fourteen, I'm sure. 385 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, big shoes is that's because there's nothing you could 386 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: do with that. You look like an idiot, even if 387 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: they were real big. It's terrible. 388 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: It's bad, bad, But but I think. 389 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: I think on the closing side of things, like in 390 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: a way it creates style a little bit. 391 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: It can Yeah, did you freak those big shoes in 392 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: a way that oh no, I. 393 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: Never war again in my life. I thought, you know, 394 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: it's crazy that I remember. I got away with it. 395 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: I got away with it for most of the day. 396 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: I remember that like I got away with it. It 397 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: was like probably to like the last like hour of school. 398 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, that's that's how you lose, because 399 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: you get comfortable. 400 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: Like yeah, here's what I'll say though, And and as 401 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: somebody that got roasted for for uh, I once got 402 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: told I had on air Steve Kurz and that that 403 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: broke my heart in a way that I'll I still 404 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: hold tight this day. 405 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: Before he was such a prolific coach too, that's like, yeah, no, 406 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: this was like when it was a good reference. 407 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: It was it was a deep cut at the time. 408 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: It was in Chicago's I was it did all. It 409 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: was nasty work. It was in front of my lady 410 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: at the time, it was all. It was devastating. But 411 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: I'll say that I'm so ashamed to tell you what 412 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: they were that it feels like I'm derailing the point 413 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: that I'll tell you at the end. I'll save it 414 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: like an easter egg. What the fuck I had on 415 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. 416 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: But the point is. 417 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 3: Is that we think we're getting away with it, but 418 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: what's actually happening is the school has circulated the conversation 419 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: about your ship for a day and then they just 420 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: decide to say something at the end of it. You 421 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like every time you're like, yo, 422 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: nobody's nobody's clocking that I wore this shirt on Wednesday. 423 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: Niggas clocked it. They're just waiting until the right moment 424 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: to make me feel small. 425 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: I think that's partially true. I think partially this is 426 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: you coming from a very personal specific experience. Yeah you 427 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 4: said make me feel small? 428 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, yeah, I only know how to speak from 429 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: the personal personal. 430 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: Guy. Wait, but we haven't gotten the witches, the constructive bully. 431 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: I just said the clothes, so the fashion yeah, like that. 432 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: That that sort of thing where you're just like, oh, 433 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: because of you know, I'm getting and because it creates 434 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: it creates that that that spine where you're like, yo, 435 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: I like this shirt. 436 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: But that's not what happened. You said you you said, 437 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: you did, you just threw them. 438 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: No, those shoes are too big. 439 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: But if it's something that you know, you like, where 440 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: you're just like, no, I like this shirt, you know, 441 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: and people are like, yo, this goof yeah shirt you like? 442 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 7: You don't like. 443 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't like binge, Like hold on binge is fly, 444 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It creates, It takes time. 445 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted, because I don't think that you know, 446 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: you're in ninth grade thinking like that, but as you 447 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: kind of people kind of pick on your clothing like 448 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: cool to me. 449 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: I do think that that's sort of the hardest part 450 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: of when we talk about bullying, it is almost off 451 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: most often in people's formative years, you know what I mean. 452 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: So like at the time when I'm most sensitive and 453 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: least capable of sort of like asserting what I like 454 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 3: and don't like is when motherfuckers are coming up and 455 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: telling me about myself in a way that I can't manage. 456 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: Whereas like now, thirty seven years old, somebody goes, I 457 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: don't like that shirt. I go, bitch, I bought it. 458 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: This is it. 459 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: This is the shirt now. 460 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what do you want for me? This 461 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: is this is my shirt. I plan to wear it again. 462 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: I plan, in fact, I plan to wear it Thursday, 463 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: and I won't feel embarrassed if you notice, you know 464 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, I truly am just locked into 465 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: the character at this point. But at fourteen, I couldn't 466 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: manage that, you know what I mean? Twelve I wasn't. 467 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't bouncing back like, bitch, this is my good girl. 468 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: What are you like? 469 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, no, you're wrong. I hate 470 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 3: me too, and there's nothing I can do about. 471 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: It, for sure. 472 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, that you get your shirts. 473 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: Think enough over time, Like actually, you know what, so 474 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: button down, open chest ship. 475 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Still I still can't pull that off. 476 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: Nigga, tell me if I wear an open chest shirt, 477 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: nigga say anything to me. 478 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, But. 479 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 4: That's but that is a crazy move. It shouldn't be 480 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: it should chess dudes do it. 481 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: I'll say, this, I'll be saying, like dudes and like 482 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: like those like photo magazines and fucking like on on 483 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: the red carpets and ship and they'll have their chest 484 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: out like damn, that looks cool. I bet I could. 485 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: And then as soon as I put it on, I go, bro, 486 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: you can't leave the house. 487 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: You can't do what you're gonna do. Okay, we need 488 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: to take a break. 489 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: We're we're gonna be back to discuss a little bit 490 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: more about bullying. 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Oh yeah, I mean that's like 536 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: it's like a culture right now. 537 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that like everything he. 538 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: Knows some type of thing when there are people who 539 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: are actually suffering from it. 540 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Saying you have mental health when you're just. 541 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: Tired, yeah, or annoying an irritating person, Yeah, like just 542 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: drinks of water. 543 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: I think is maybe what you're talking about. 544 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you're just a bitch. 545 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: Did he give did he give examples of what types 546 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: of like bullying? 547 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: They said in the article that a person of the 548 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: same size, the same strength, and same status, not liking 549 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: something you're wearing or not liking you personally should not 550 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: necessarily be qualified as bullying, right, Like sometimes. 551 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: No, that's crazy because then that that doesn't account for 552 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: little bullies. 553 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, hear me out. I think what they're arguing is 554 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 3: that like and and individual. I think what they were 555 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: sort of suggesting is that an individual interaction where I go, 556 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: fuck your shirt is not bully, presuming that I'm not 557 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: like an older kid sort of like coming down to 558 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: your like elementary school and being like, fuck your shirt. 559 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: There's no power dynamic here. It's just one dude not 560 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: liking another dude's shirt. Whereas if every single day I 561 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: go look at this bummy ass nigga in his shirt 562 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: and it's a different shirt every time, that would qualify 563 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: as bully. I don't like this, Okay, tell me more. 564 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: I think that because a lot of the best bullies 565 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: are people who got something fucked up. A lot of 566 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: the best bullies have a weird hand. Mm hm, you 567 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, so it's like the whole 568 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: point is the power dynamic. So to say like you're 569 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: gonna get bully, you can still get bullied by somebody 570 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: who's like equals you. 571 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: That's not like you know what I'm saying, but it's not. 572 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: I I yes to that part of it. But I 573 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: think the persistence is maybe the part that you're not 574 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 3: addressing the the individual versus like the persisting I think 575 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: it's like repeated. 576 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: As a repeated action, then it becomes But what if 577 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: they're all bummy shirts. 578 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can have somebody that it's equal 579 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: to you say one thing about you one time, and 580 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: it stick with you for the rest of your life. 581 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: And it's happened to everyone and it let it be 582 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: the opposite gender. 583 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: I see their faces, I can see it. I remember 584 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: the whole setup. I remember where I was walking. They 585 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: were they had their arms locked, like you know how 586 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: girls would walk with their arms locked sometimes, and the 587 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: one girl was like, what's your favorite color? And I 588 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: was new at the school and I was like, these 589 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: girls want to talk to me because it was like 590 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: eighth grade. They're like, what's your favorite color? And I 591 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: was like, I think I even licked my lips. It 592 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: is bad, I was. I was like, I was like, hell. 593 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah what I said. 594 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: And then the one, the littler girl, bro, now I'm 595 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: thinking about it. It's just giving me chills. The little 596 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: girl looked me right in my face and she was like, 597 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: I thought you was gonna say purple because. 598 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: That's a com. 599 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: And it went raisezy. Anyway, look Kevin, look at Kevin 600 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: right now. 601 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Ray I'm with her on her side. 602 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I'll never forget it. And that's what that was. 603 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: Girls purple is is God Damn. 604 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: I was wearing a new academic shirt. I was wearing 605 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: a brand new academics button down I got. 606 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: But here's what they would say, I think, based on 607 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: the article I was reading, is that it's also numbers 608 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: as it relates to that situation, right that, like that 609 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: one little girl saying that to you in private is 610 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: a very different thing. I'm saying that if it were, 611 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: if that, if that individual said something to you in private, 612 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: and don't get so angry. You're obviously on edge about 613 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 3: what happened to you, and I'm sorry, I'm genuinely sorry 614 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 3: that that happened. If if that's what you need to 615 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: hear to calm down enough so that you can take 616 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: this in, then I am sorry that little girl did 617 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: the wrong thing to you. You are not purple, Your 618 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: skin is beautiful, and you're a strong, proud man. 619 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: And so I say that that. 620 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: It is also the group think that sort of makes 621 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: that bullying, right that she showed up with three other 622 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: friends and the people, okay, one. 623 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: Other friend overblowing the story. 624 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: Look, man, all I heard was you scream for mercy, niggas. 625 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: She could have texted that to me and would have 626 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: been hurt. Yeah, nobody else. 627 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 4: It is rough day. It's rough day. 628 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the numbers plays a major part 629 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: in it. I think the persistence plays a major part 630 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 3: in it. And I think status, as they argue, plays 631 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: a major part in how we define what bullying actually 632 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: is versus what I think they're arguing, Kevin, is something 633 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: similar to what you're suggesting, which is a part of 634 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: just character building that sometimes people are going to call 635 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: you ugly, they're gonna call your clothes trash, They're going 636 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: to say things that don't make you feel good. But 637 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: that is just part of growing up. The way that 638 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: it sounds like all three of our mothers bullied us, 639 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: and I don't know that I get to I don't 640 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: know I get to call anybody about this, you know 641 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 3: what I mean? 642 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 4: Yeah? Also who, I don't care who, That's what I mean. 643 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: It's just like, wait, so okay, So I have a question, like, 644 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: all right, you know you have you have you have 645 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: two beautiful little children, Yeah, and you know they come 646 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: home from school. Hey, I'm being bullied. How are you? 647 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: How are you handling this? On let's say a physical level, 648 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 2: your son is being bullied A twelve years old or whatever. 649 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 8: We have the clothing level that we've discussed the clothes stuff, 650 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 8: and then maybe just like a pure nasty you know whatever, 651 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 8: your chubby, your your skin is too, what this side 652 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 8: of the way your hair? 653 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't lay. I don't. Your last name 654 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: is Kervan, and it's weird. 655 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 4: It ain't not a lot left, It ain't normal anywhere. 656 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: How you handle it just on different, you know what 657 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: I mean. I guess on the other on the other 658 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: side of the game. 659 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: Now I I And that's I think a question that 660 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't have a great answer to. And to that point, 661 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: an article I found talked about how basically it said 662 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: that forty percent of parents in America struggle with anxiety 663 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: and depression as it relates to the idea of their 664 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 3: children getting bullied. Not even like literally getting bullied, but 665 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: just the idea of their children getting bullied or the 666 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: possibility of them getting bullied gives them anxiety and depression, 667 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 668 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: And that sixty nigga slipt good think about ahead of that. 669 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: Look, I remember I got in a fight with the 670 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: kid and a kid that I thought was my friend, 671 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: and so I got my ass beat because I wasn't 672 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: even I didn't even realize we were fighting until it's 673 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: foot was on my face. 674 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: Fuck. 675 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: Then like my dad was like, yo, what's going on 676 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: that it's almost face. 677 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: He's like, you have to go back on fight? 678 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: And then I went back and again, and then like 679 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: he had long mails, so like I didn't lose the fight, 680 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: but he scratched my face. 681 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: And now I'm like my. 682 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: Dad's like, god, damn, I'm just like, you've never taken 683 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: me to a boxing class. 684 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: You ain't give me no tools. 685 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 7: It's just like. 686 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: He's like, wait, wait, wait, you're not strong. Wait hold on, 687 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: you're not buff Okay, all right, what am I? 688 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm raising. 689 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: Exactly. 690 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: I told you. 691 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: I told you to be buffing strong. I don't know 692 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 4: what this is that you're not. 693 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: In that same article, I came across some of the 694 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: things that they qualify as sort of like bullying as 695 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: it relates to specifically today. They said that offensive name calling, 696 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: spreading of false rumors about them, receiving explicit images they 697 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: didn't ask for, constantly being asked where they are, what 698 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: they're doing, or who they're with by someone other than 699 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: a parent, physical threats. I think, yeah, I mean, I 700 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: think some of it might be some internet game shit 701 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 3: that we don't quite understand. That like if somebody is 702 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: persistently being like where are you and then like fucking 703 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: with you about where you are? Maybe that that somehow 704 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 3: is like some new age bullying. I don't fully get it, 705 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: but I ain't never had no like internet bully, you 706 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 707 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 2: The false rumors is a that's a classic. Yeah, that's 708 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: a class. 709 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,959 Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, that's a tale as old as time 710 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 3: for sure. 711 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 4: Wait, I'm thinking now to the question of what would 712 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 4: you do if your son's What would you do on 713 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 4: the other end of it? What if your son is 714 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 4: the bully? 715 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: That would devastate me a lot more than if he. 716 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: If he's hilarious, Like what if they said, like they 717 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 4: tell you you have to go on for a parent 718 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 4: teacher conference, they explain whatever it was, and the shit 719 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: you said your son said was like like so funny? 720 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 4: All right, well what is the work on your character? 721 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 4: For sure? 722 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: But all right, hey, you know what I mean, because 723 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: I also do remember I feel like I don't feel 724 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 3: like I ever had a bully growing up. I don't 725 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 3: know if y'all had that where like it was just 726 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: like one person who was always at my neck and 727 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: I was scared of them or felt intimidated intimidated by 728 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: their presence. But I do remember like there was a 729 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: culture of people just roasting the shit out of whoever 730 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: was having a bad day, and you could get it. 731 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: Anybody could get it. And I remember being a part 732 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 3: of both giving it and getting it in that sense, right, 733 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 3: And sometimes I was a part of giving it to 734 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 3: somebody who couldn't handle it and we took it too far, 735 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: But some of it was funny as fuck, and so 736 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 3: like if I got reported inside of that, I feel 737 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: like I had the context to be able to give 738 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: to my parents, like no, I'm not a bully. I 739 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: just was having a good day and they were not, 740 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I was thriving and 741 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 3: they weren't thriving. And the fact that they can't handle 742 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: that is that's that's a character flaw and don't I 743 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 3: don't know what to do about it. But I was 744 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 3: killing it that day. 745 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 4: You should have heard what I said, because. 746 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: The circle form that I had my hand out, like 747 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 3: this motherfucker right here. 748 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have a theory that it doesn't ever. 749 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: Really go away. 750 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 4: No. I agree with that, Like with like. 751 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 2: Now, you know, we've all had well, I don't know, 752 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: but we've had jobs right where we like corporate, I guess, 753 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 2: workplace kind of situations, and I feel like micro aggressions 754 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: is like that's the that's the adult version of you 755 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: know what I mean, We're okay, this is this is 756 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: a different way. I'm but you know, as an adult, 757 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: at least for me, I was like, I'm not. I 758 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: wasn't used to the microaggression. Believe I was used to. 759 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Your shoes is too big for your feet. 760 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's. 761 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: Just like a new weird thing. It's just like this 762 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: is different. And I will say that it is it's 763 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: kind of the same at. 764 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 2: Least for my you know whatever degenerate brain where I'm 765 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: just like, okay, I can learn how to turn this 766 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: negative into a positive. You know, it's for me, it's 767 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 2: kind of like the same thing where it's like, oh, 768 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: I needed to learn how to make this thing constructed. 769 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 2: For me, that was kind of like you know, tearing 770 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 2: apart what you think. 771 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I always think about how much of the things 772 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 3: that I said to people were not meant to be 773 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 3: permanent for them and somehow might have been like I. 774 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 3: And they talk about it a little bit in the 775 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: first article that I read that like intent intentionality is 776 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: a major part of what bullying is as well that 777 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: like some of it is just roasting and being silly. 778 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: I remember there was this one girl who who had 779 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 3: like a lazy eye, and like it just it. I 780 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: didn't know, truly, I didn't even know. Okay, okay, no, 781 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: I swear to god, I didn't even know that she 782 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 3: had the lazy eye before I said something. I just 783 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: was like, well, what the fuck happened to her eye? 784 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 4: On some like just. 785 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 3: Being a kid saying the thing. And then she was like, no, 786 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 3: I have a condition. And it was one of those 787 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 3: where it's like that wasn't my plan. I like you, 788 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: I plan to treat you with a level of decency. 789 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 3: I just was talking shit because I probably felt weak 790 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: or low or felt like that would have made me 791 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: feel strong, just. 792 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: Not thinking you just show up somewhere with some energy. 793 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: You're just like yo. 794 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 3: I was fifteen and noticed a weird eye and none 795 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 3: of us had weird eyes. I was like, what's up? 796 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 3: And then and then it got explained to me. And 797 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 3: I felt a massive amount of guilt and I still do. 798 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: And I wonder how much of that, like it's something 799 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: she carries forward of being like, well that, you know 800 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 3: what I mean, he said that shit unnecessarily when I 801 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: was having a probably a fine day before that. 802 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: She only fans model now because of that shit. 803 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 3: I pray that what I did created a source of 804 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 3: income for her. If that's true, then I'm a hero. 805 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: If if if she hasn't figured out a way to 806 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: capitalize on it, I'm a villain. And that stinks. You 807 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 3: don't want to be that, you know what I mean. 808 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm trying to think about I don't think 809 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 4: I ever got any I guess I've maybe I've been 810 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 4: a part of bullying that probably affected people in the 811 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: long run. I mean, I did see on Instagram this 812 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 4: kid we used to bully. That's funny, we talk about it. 813 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 4: My mom used to make fun of this kid all day. 814 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 4: He was the littlest He was the littlest kid on 815 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 4: our football team. And it's crazy because my mom is little. 816 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 4: She's like she's like four eleven five feet and she 817 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 4: would always like and she doesn't know the game of football. 818 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 4: She would just laugh at how he looks in his past, 819 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 4: what he looks like when he would run, like all 820 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 4: the thing, you know what I mean, all that type 821 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 4: of stuff. He's a teacher now, which is you know smid. 822 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: Your mom picking on kids. It's hilarious. 823 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 4: There's truly no safety on it. It's truly anyone old people, 824 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 4: slow people, fast people. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's because 825 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 4: she worked with a lot of slow people, so she 826 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 4: just feels like comfortable. 827 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: I just wonder how, even even in thinking about your mom, 828 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: how much of it if she thought that, like that 829 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 3: little fella would be permanently affected by something she said, 830 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 3: if that would would be something she wanted. 831 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's just 832 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 4: like the nature. I don't know, like incerely on that's 833 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 4: just how people are, like you like you see people 834 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 4: walk fucked up down the street, like if like I've 835 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 4: just seen it with my cousins where somebody with a 836 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 4: bad eye or some shit is walking down the street 837 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 4: and you just can hear it from there and he 838 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 4: passes and every everybody with us says something and he 839 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 4: keeps you. It's just like that's just like how it 840 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 4: is over there. So I don't think there's even a 841 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 4: thought of that, Like they don't think of it as bullying. 842 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 4: They think of it as like it feels almost like 843 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 4: it's less of a reflection of the person and just 844 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: just the situation, you know what I mean. It's funny 845 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 4: that that hand looks weird or that that eye is goofy. 846 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, this is not a competent person 847 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 4: who can do whatever. They just got a funny eye. 848 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 3: And here's what I'll say is when they talk about 849 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: that conflation right between what we call bullying versus the 850 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: things that actually are bullying, I do think that that 851 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 3: needs to be acknowledged that Like, again, it's intentionality that 852 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 3: like some people are going to make a point of 853 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 3: saying something about the way that you look, the way 854 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 3: that you talk, dress, all of the things. But are 855 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 3: they attempting to take you out of your yourself or 856 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 3: are they just like saying what the world is thinking 857 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 3: about you? And you got to learn to have a 858 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 3: little bit of a thicker skin about it, because that 859 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 3: is the human experience, whether we like. 860 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 4: It or not. 861 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 3: There's there's a fair amount of evidence that no matter 862 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: how sort of like sophisticated we become, we're still gonna 863 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 3: be pieces and the ship to each other. So like 864 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 3: you do have to learn to manage it. 865 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: I think that's that is that's that is really important 866 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 4: because it's like the idea of no bullying goes too 867 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: far the other way, right, Like you can't create this 868 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 4: perfect scenario where none of these issues are gonna be. 869 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 4: It just doesn't. It isn't realistic. So I think there 870 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 4: is an amount. I think mostly I'm gonna get sports 871 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 4: azing the more about it. 872 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 3: Like that just because you had such a deep familiarity 873 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 3: to sports azing. 874 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: Ah, I think that sports hazing I think that it 875 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 4: others people more than traditional bullying. 876 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 5: Hmmm. 877 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 4: I think it's like you you're already other othering people 878 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 4: by putting them in this position, and then you make 879 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 4: that circle smaller, you know what I mean. And it's 880 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 4: kind of like a system that runs on a whipping 881 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 4: boy or whatever, Whereas I think traditional bullying is just 882 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 4: like community, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody can 883 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 4: everybody kind of feels some of it. Where it's like 884 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 4: like I think about like at least in the high 885 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 4: school I went to, we were allowed to do we 886 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 4: operated with impunity, like there was no stop it or 887 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 4: don't do that. And it was like a lot of 888 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: times the strong on the weak, or the old on 889 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: the young or whatever, you know what I mean, right, yeah, I. 890 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: Mean it makes you I think. 891 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: I think the other positive about it is it at 892 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: least as a kid, it like it makes you very 893 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 2: observant too, where you're just like, oh, I'm getting picked 894 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 2: on because I'm different, Well what is different? 895 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: You know? 896 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: And then you're kind of looking around and you're like 897 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: noticing and like you like, I mean I would even 898 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 2: the like you say, the culture of you know, ranking 899 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: and everything like that. It's like you you now you're 900 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 2: starting to look at other people and you're like, all right, 901 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 2: they gonna come for me for something, all right now 902 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: Now now I'm locked and loaded. I see, all right, 903 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: Lanston got his hair cut, right, So you so you've 904 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: got all of that. You know, you got you know 905 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, You got it, You got. 906 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: It, locked and loaded. But it also is like it 907 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: made me also. 908 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: Look, I remember the time in high school where I 909 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: was just like kind of noticing the kids that weren't 910 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: getting bullied at all, and you know why they weren't 911 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 2: getting bullied, and it was just like they were just 912 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: so much inside of their own world. Even if you 913 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 2: bullied them, it looked kind of like weird, you know 914 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it was like I went to 915 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 2: a diverse high school, so it was Indian kids, there's 916 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 2: Asian kids, and you know, there's always the Asian, Indian 917 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 2: and whatever that kind of assimilates the black culture. But 918 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: then there were ones that didn't. They was just like 919 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 2: in the band, It's like I played my trumpet, that's 920 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: my thing, and I'm be like, yo, that's cool, and 921 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 2: I would hang out with them some time to be like, Yo, 922 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 2: this is like a safe haven. 923 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: You can't really nobody really coming over here. 924 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: That's it with nobody, because you just kind of look 925 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: like an asshole with the kid with the tube. But 926 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: he already played the tube, bro leave him alone. 927 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 3: I like, I like that we need to take a break. 928 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 3: But I really like that sentiment of sort of the 929 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 3: the safe spaces, the safe haven because that sort of 930 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: connects to a little bit of what the the articles 931 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: that I read kind of say it's a solution to 932 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 3: some of this. 933 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,240 Speaker 4: So we're gonna take one more break. 934 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna come back with more kevin Io and more. 935 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 3: My mama told me, we're calling upon you because we 936 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: have we have new merch. 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And then we have t shirts that 946 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 4: say proud little Mama, which is who you are. 947 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my 948 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 3: mama told me dot merch table dot com. It's a 949 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 3: brand new name, but it's the same old merch and 950 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 3: we would love for you to get some if you 951 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 3: haven't got it already, and we want you to have 952 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 3: all the sweet stuff, so get it. There was due 953 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: to a feces thrown all over the walls, the floor, 954 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 3: the ceiling in a stunk. 955 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 4: But what doesn't stink is bullying? Is that not the 956 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 4: is that? 957 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 3: But that's not how you're feeling about it. 958 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 4: I think you've been. 959 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: At you tried to do Barbara Walters it. 960 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, you really dropped the ball on that one. 961 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 4: You know, players fuck up. 962 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 3: I I will say that one of the these sort 963 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 3: of bigger ass that the article makes at the end 964 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 3: as it relates to bullying, is it says that at 965 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 3: the end of the day, what we should be focused 966 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 3: on is less of these individual experiences if somebody said 967 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: this about me or made me feel small in this way, 968 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 3: and it's more should instead be more focused on solutions 969 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 3: to prevent those kinds of interactions in the first place. 970 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 3: Right that, like, it's less about the what the kids 971 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 3: are feeling and more about how can we reduce those 972 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 3: negative interactions in totality. And I don't know that that 973 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 3: is a solution as much as like a little bit 974 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 3: of like a a theory. It's it's idealistic in a 975 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,320 Speaker 3: way that I don't fully know how to make sense of. 976 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not solving the problem in handed because you're 977 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 4: always gonna run in the end the bullies. 978 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: Man. 979 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 4: I was. 980 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 2: I was hanging out of Winnisburg a couple of days 981 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 2: ago and just chilling, you know, sitting down people watching, 982 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 2: and this girl walks across and she's crying in tears 983 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: and she's like, oh. 984 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: Rachel's gonna put me on the bad list, and then 985 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: she just like kept walking. 986 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, whatever her job is, it's insane 987 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 2: and it's has such an emotional toll on her. And 988 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 2: she walking through the street at five o'clock on a 989 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 2: Tuesday crying, you know what I mean, It's like, Yo, 990 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 2: that's going to She can't run away from that. I 991 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: don't know what she do or nothing, but she can't 992 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 2: run away from it. So, you know, to me, it's 993 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: like the healthiest way to deal with stuff this type 994 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 2: of thing is to make sure that you got. 995 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: A solid routine. 996 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: You're waking up, that you're doing stuff outside of you know, 997 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: whatever the bully thing is. 998 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: You find your happiness outside of that. 999 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: So then when you are confronted with it, you can 1000 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: kind of you can kind of minimize it. Almost your 1001 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 2: brain will almost do it itself because you're just like, yo, 1002 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: I woke up, I ran today, I did my push ups, 1003 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: I read the thing I was supposed to read, I 1004 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 2: finished my homework da da, And it's just like it 1005 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 2: was one of it. It's like, yeah, but I had 1006 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: a full you know what I'm saying and kind of 1007 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 2: putting this sort of you know, small moment into perspective 1008 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 2: at least for me personally, you know, or. 1009 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 4: You're just like hit them, Yeah, I always hit them. 1010 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: I agree. I think it really is the challenge though, 1011 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 3: right that, Like I think about our job that, like, 1012 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: we have so much interaction as stand ups with other comedians, 1013 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 3: some of whom give me shit tons of anxiety to 1014 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 3: be around. And it's not because like of fear or 1015 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 3: like that they're necessarily bullying me. It's just like every 1016 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 3: conversation with some people is work, and sometimes it's work 1017 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 3: that is like combative and like takes something out of 1018 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 3: my energy, and if I don't figure out a way 1019 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 3: to manage whatever that is, it could turn into bullying. 1020 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 3: It could easily turn into something where like I do 1021 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 3: feel sort of like oppressed by another human being. But 1022 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 3: like you said, if I can find the center for 1023 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 3: me that supersedes that, then I'll be okay. But that's 1024 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: that's much easier said than done, especially as an adult 1025 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 3: man versus like a young child who doesn't have that 1026 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 3: much control over their life to begin with. 1027 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: Right, right right. 1028 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that would have to fall back on 1029 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: parenting because like even like you know, Instagram being something 1030 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 2: that these kids get constantly, online bullying or whatever. 1031 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: You might look at your thay you be like, damn. 1032 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: I only got you know, seventy five followers my pictures 1033 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: getting four likes. 1034 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's a big thing for kids. But it's 1035 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: like if you. 1036 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 2: Are here all day, then you're gonna feel it more. 1037 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, if you go whop you go, 1038 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 2: and then you look on it and you're like, man, whatever, bro, 1039 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 2: I touch grass, like, it's like I just I just 1040 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, putting have a perspective really reduces you know, 1041 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 2: all of that all of that stress that you might 1042 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 2: get from that, at least for me, because you can't 1043 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: escape it. 1044 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be there. Yeah. 1045 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: And I personally, I've never loved this old generation ship 1046 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 3: where we go like you got a bulliant online bullying 1047 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 3: ain't bullian. I mean you gotta shad to my face 1048 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 3: if you're gonna hurt my feeling, It's like, no, that's bullying. 1049 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 3: I think what we were actually was pretty lightweight compared 1050 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: to what kids today are experiencing. The idea that adults 1051 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: could find out my greatest weaknesses, Like strangers I've never 1052 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 3: met before in my life could like tap on a 1053 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 3: picture and be like this kid is ugly and I'm 1054 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 3: gonna like it. That's a nightmare. 1055 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 2: I agree his wives from the other but he got 1056 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: so much space between you eyes. 1057 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: You do kind of look like a hammerhead shark, Like, damn. 1058 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 3: Fuck, come on man, you work at Costco. Why are 1059 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 3: you talking to me like this? 1060 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 7: And now you can put the gifts in there so 1061 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 7: so funny, God, damn Disney characters, you're like, it's. 1062 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 4: Pretty many mouths have to do with. 1063 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that kids today are somehow getting 1064 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: it easier or have like a more manageable situation. I 1065 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 3: think it's the exact opposite. And I do think unfortunately 1066 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 3: the only solution is to go outside and touch grass. 1067 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 3: But that you know that it's it's culture, and culture 1068 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 3: doesn't encourage us to touch grass as as kids, adults, 1069 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 3: any anybody anymore, and so it's hard to demand that 1070 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: of an entire generation who wasn't being raised that way. 1071 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 7: Bro. 1072 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 2: I seen I've seen something during the eclipse. Somebody was like, 1073 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 2: I seen a video, do it is like not. Niggas 1074 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 2: went outside and Dick wrote the sun today. Sam said, 1075 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 2: niggas can't even join the clips. 1076 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Without It's not gonna happen again for another four hundred years. 1077 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: He said, the sun be there eight days they you're 1078 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna Dick ride the sun. I'm like, yo, we can't even. 1079 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 4: Where. 1080 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 3: We live in a toxic, toxic world, man. So yeah, 1081 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 3: it's hard to know what what uh what is good 1082 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 3: for your character or bad for your character. But I 1083 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 3: do think if we could put a little bow on this, 1084 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 3: I do think objectively bullying is is probably a bad 1085 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 3: thing that some of us manage to to make beautiful 1086 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 3: on the back end that the bravest of us, somehow 1087 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 3: can can build bouquets from that shit flower you you 1088 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: offered me. 1089 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 2: That's Langsty's bowl. My bowl is from an article the 1090 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Verge dot com says children who bully others have lower 1091 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 2: levels of inflammation later on in life. 1092 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 4: Do what you want. 1093 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 3: I was like, look, hey, if you flame somebody else, 1094 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 3: you ain't got no inflammation later. 1095 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 9: At the end of the day, you know, I mean 1096 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 9: wild choose wisely, choose wisely, get flamed or flamed. 1097 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 2: Imagine, imagine the nigga like going to the doctor, like 1098 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 2: you got a high inflammation. 1099 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: He just starts like A, I don't know what to 1100 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: do about this. Go outside, start roasting people. 1101 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 4: Boy a little boy. 1102 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Kid like, no, I gotta do this for my. 1103 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 4: Doctor said six months I prescriptions. 1104 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 10: I'm trying to live long enough to raise my That's great. 1105 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 3: All right, I think we did it. So you want 1106 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 3: to tell the people where they can find you on? 1107 01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 3: What cool ship you have going on? 1108 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Ice so propo andol like the Alcohol group on 1109 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 2: Instagram and I have a show. September twenty ninth, Junion Hall, Brooklyn, 1110 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 2: seven point thirty. 1111 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Come through. 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