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Speaker 1: edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast. My name is John Schmult.

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Speaker 1: Today we're joined by former NFL quarterback and now analysts

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Speaker 1: this Sunday on the NFL on CBS. He has the

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Speaker 1: call one o'clock. Kick Trent, Good to see him. Man,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, Hey, John, I'm doing I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, it's always exciting this time of year,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're in the playoff hunt, and that's exactly

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Speaker 1: the position that the Giants have found themselves. So we've

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Melanie and I we've we've been really fortunate

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Speaker 1: to have some good games this year. As as is

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Speaker 1: the case around the entire NFL, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of close games, and we've been fortunate to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of those games, uh, and which which obviously makes

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Speaker 1: it makes it a better broadcast. Yeah. Absolutely, And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna dig into the game a little bit. First. I

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Speaker 1: want to start with with Daniel Jones Tremp's. I love

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Speaker 1: talking to guys that played the position and getting their

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Speaker 1: doing it. I'll start big foot view. Your take on

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Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones has done so far this year? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's he needs to be commended

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Speaker 1: number one. Uh, you know, being that he's in his

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Speaker 1: had to learn multiple systems. It's not the ideal way

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Speaker 1: get yourself established and have long term success. So number one,

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Speaker 1: I give him credit, uh for being resilient and and

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Speaker 1: then you know, secondly, I can see steady improvement. I

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Speaker 1: Giants fans want to talk about is, uh, he's protecting

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Speaker 1: at CBS, obviously, and you you have all the superman

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Speaker 1: That was That was kind of a Mike Marts philosophy,

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Speaker 1: brought it in, you know, to Kansas City, and Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you get a bunch of people out, then it's

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Speaker 1: then you leave it up to me to pick that

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's just part of the position. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know. The other philosophy is, you know, two tight

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Speaker 1: ends chip the back, only two guys get out in

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Speaker 1: just to kind of change it up for the defense.

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Speaker 1: But I'm more of a fan. Hey, get the guys

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Speaker 1: that guy that I want one on one, because you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to match up everybody and take

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Speaker 1: advantage of whatever that weak link. Maybe no question about it, Trent,

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Speaker 1: And I guess final question now as we head towards

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Speaker 1: here aside from the teams we know are the dominant

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Speaker 1: the Kansasy Chiefs. You know, in the NFC, you got

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Speaker 1: of the teams that maybe teams aren't people aren't talking

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Speaker 1: about as much, that you think could make some noise here.

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Speaker 1: You know, you maybe put the Bengals and Niners in

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Speaker 1: the top group you can, But what are the teams

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Speaker 1: you're like, maybe this team could surprise people and really

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Speaker 1: make some noise here in the postseason if they get there. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think as Giants history has shown if you get

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Speaker 1: in the dance, you can always you can always have

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Speaker 1: a chance. And and uh, if I remember right, is

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Speaker 1: that your last two Super Bowl champions were nine and

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Speaker 1: seven going into the playoffs, right, didn't they? I know

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Speaker 1: the last time. I think I think one was I

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Speaker 1: think one was ten and six. But yes, yeah, so, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just getting into the dance, and and teams talk

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Speaker 1: about it all the time. I'm kind of a avoiding

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Speaker 1: your question directly as far as specific teams. Um. I

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Speaker 1: you know, as a player, we always talked about just

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Speaker 1: getting the dance, just getting the dance, just getting the dance.

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Speaker 1: And then if you're on a really good team, you

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Speaker 1: want to get into the dance with some momentum. And

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Speaker 1: if you're on a team that just kind of tweak,

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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to stagger in there, you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go in with momentum because you've had to

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Speaker 1: win throughout the last four games. They had to win

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Speaker 1: some games to get in. So I think all of

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Speaker 1: it is is really about who's hot at the right time. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the top heavy, right, it's top heavy between

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Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati, Kansas City and the Bills in the

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Speaker 1: a f C UM any of those teams that make

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Speaker 1: it in are going to have an opportunity. But I

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Speaker 1: think that's it stopped everything. You look at the NFC,

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Speaker 1: as you said, Billy in San Francisco, Dallas, some people

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Speaker 1: are saying, but I don't know whatever it is about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not completely sold on that yet. I gotta see

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Speaker 1: more out of the Cowboys. But um, for me, it's

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Speaker 1: about getting in. If you get in and you're hot

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Speaker 1: and you're rolling, you know, it's crazy how how things

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Speaker 1: can happen, because nobody would have predicted that the Bengals

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Speaker 1: made it all the way to the Super Bowl a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Even though they had all that talent, they

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Speaker 1: weren't they weren't up one of the you know, they

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Speaker 1: had to win all that stuff on the road. So

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Speaker 1: I had to go into kind of see and get

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Speaker 1: a big win and go in to Kansas City you

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Speaker 1: get a big win. So, um, it's about getting in

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Speaker 1: the dance, I think. I think that's the main thing.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Giants have an opportunity to do

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Speaker 1: this weekend against the Colts, and um, it'll be it'll

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Speaker 1: be fun to see that. And then the final question,

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Speaker 1: try real quick in these winden your in games? How

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Speaker 1: does the pressure affect players? You know, as as as

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Speaker 1: a guy that that that's never done it, you get

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Speaker 1: into these big games where a lot of you guys

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Speaker 1: haven't been in these situations in the NFL, at these

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Speaker 1: where you win in your inn, What are some of

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Speaker 1: the impact that actually has on on the field. What

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Speaker 1: do players have to do so that you know it

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Speaker 1: doesn't impact that Dables all week has been the mantra,

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Speaker 1: it's just another game, we gotta win. He's not making

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Speaker 1: this a big deal. But as a player, how is

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Speaker 1: it different? You know, I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 1: this week is gonna be a little bit different for

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Speaker 1: the Giants in terms of, yeah, it's never happened, but

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's Week eight team and you have

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Speaker 1: to win this week to have it. I mean they

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Speaker 1: have they have a little bit. They have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a cushion, and that's due to the to

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Speaker 1: the win over Washington, uh couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: and the fact that, uh so, I think it takes

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that pressure off. I think you

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Speaker 1: never want to go into the last one saying Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have to do it now and you have no idea. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen in that final game. You

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Speaker 1: know it's really gonna play everybody. They're not gonna play everybody.

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Speaker 1: They already have the one seed. You know, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to go into that. You you want to Coaches

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Speaker 1: and players are all about, you know, control what you

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Speaker 1: have control of. And and I think this week they

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Speaker 1: have they have the control of that, and and next week, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they want to get it done.

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Speaker 1: So to answer your question, I think there's a little

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Speaker 1: less pressure because they do have one more week. So

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Speaker 1: I anticipate them going in and playing very loose and

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Speaker 1: having fun and just trying to do what we've seen

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Speaker 1: them do all season. It'll may be close, it's, as

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Speaker 1: you pointed, all eight wins or one score wins. But

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Speaker 1: but I don't anticipate like any nervousness or any hesitation

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Speaker 1: on their part because they do have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a buffer. Go check out Check Green alongside Kevin

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Speaker 1: holland Melanie Collins as the Colts take on the Giants

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Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium this Sunday on the NFL and CBS

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Speaker 1: kick off at one o'clock Trent This is awesome. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the time. It was great catching up

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Speaker 1: with you again. Hopefully we'll see at the stadium on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and again real soon. That'd be great, John, good

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Speaker 1: talking with you. That's Jan Green. We thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us in this up with the of the Giants

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Speaker 1: Huddle podcast. We'll see you next time. Everybody,