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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by Bett MGM.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Chris Raybon, and this is your NFC

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Speaker 2: betting preview.

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Speaker 1: Part two.

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Speaker 2: In this episode will be previewing the NFC North and

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Speaker 2: the NFC West. We've also got our Part one NFC

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Speaker 2: episode out this morning, where we go team by team

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Speaker 2: through the NFC East and the NFC South. As always

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Speaker 2: here to help me break it down, the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: of Degenerate Nation, stucky stuck.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's going on by the rocking Packers today? Or the

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Speaker 3: NFC North, the up and COMINGNFC North, which is, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: one of the strongest divisions in the NFL with some

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Speaker 3: exciting new quarterbacks. Shame what happened to JJ McCarthy, but

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Speaker 3: really intriguing division and then excited to talk some Niners

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's jump right into the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: I think there's three teams here that have a legit

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Speaker 2: shot to win the division, with the Lions leading the

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Speaker 2: way a win total of ten and a half at

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Speaker 2: bet MGM minus one thirty five to the over the

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Speaker 2: plus win thirty five to win the division, which just

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Speaker 2: speaks to how tight this race could be. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't have a minus a juiced up favorite with

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Speaker 2: better than fifty to fifty odds. Detroit is a team

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Speaker 2: that's favored, I think in thirteen of their seventeen games

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Speaker 2: according to the look ahead lines. I think they could

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Speaker 2: be in for a little bit of regression, but the

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Speaker 2: offensive line should still be good. The defense, once again,

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Speaker 2: they it seems like they do this every year now,

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Speaker 2: but once again they overhaul the cornerback group. They got

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Speaker 2: Carlton Davis in there, so I think that you know

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Speaker 2: they got an Arnold. They draft Arnold, got Amik Robertson

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Speaker 2: from the Raiders, so we kind of know what their

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Speaker 2: offense is gonna be with Gibbs, Montgomery and Report and

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Speaker 2: a Monra in the line. So let's just go right

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Speaker 2: into the defense. Last year, you were pretty skeptical that

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Speaker 2: last year's iteration of the retooled secondary at corner especially

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Speaker 1: Where are you on that unit this season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean their defense was a disaster last year,

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Speaker 3: but still they probably should have went to the super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the offense is gonna be good. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm on ra has to stay healthy, kind of like

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Speaker 3: CD Lamb because the wide receiver depth, maybe Jamis and

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Speaker 1: At least you've got Gibbs who you can kind of

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Speaker 1: move around.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, a little more than Dallas, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that would be a big bill.

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Speaker 3: Because that wide receiver depth is definitely pretty much the

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Speaker 3: only question I have. Their offensive line is elite. You

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Speaker 3: lose Jackson, Butdad Zeugler and everyone else's back probably the

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Speaker 3: best offensive line. May you have saw Ben Johnson there

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Speaker 3: running the show. Who's gonna be a head coach sooner

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Speaker 3: than later. One of the better coordinators in the game.

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Speaker 3: They went twelve and five last year, but definitely overachieved.

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Speaker 3: There's always gonna be some variance with Campbell aggression. Golf

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Speaker 3: is still pumpkin outdoors and against like really elite defenses

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Speaker 3: games this year, which is a big benefit to the Lions,

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Speaker 3: who are a true Super Bowl contender if the secondary

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Speaker 3: in the market. You add DJ. Reader'll see when he's

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Speaker 3: to have import to go with Hutchinson. The linebackers are

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Speaker 3: still meant to me, especially in coverage. I'm just curious

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Speaker 3: So that's what I worry about. It's the past d

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Speaker 3: but the defensive line should be better at generating pressure.

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Speaker 3: The way that they like rush the passer though is

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks who can just eventually elude that that it doesn't

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Speaker 3: still have questions about this defense and just what Aaron

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Speaker 3: Glenn wants to do philosophically. It's a big difference from

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Speaker 3: the offense, where you know, Ben Johnson is set in

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Speaker 3: at least you're not running Jerry Jacobs and Build or

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Speaker 3: out there at corner this year. So yeah, true, Yet, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: got hurt CJ. Gardner Johnson and yeah it was a disaster.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Lions, I project ten point one, so I

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Speaker 3: show a little bit of value on the under ye

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Speaker 3: and if I had a better I would go under

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Speaker 3: much tougher division. I have them with the eighth artist

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Speaker 3: schedule in the NFL. Still questions about the d and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact, like you said, the fact that they

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Speaker 2: with that bad of a secondary that just collapsed over

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Speaker 2: the second half of the year just speaks to how

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Speaker 2: good their offenses, but a little bit fragile, like you said.

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Speaker 1: A'mon ross.

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Speaker 2: So this is a team that I you know, if

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Speaker 2: I'm just betting unbedian outcome, I think this that the

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're estimating just how bad the Vikings are

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Speaker 1: Who knows what could happen there. So tough division.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay nine and a half minus one forty five

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Speaker 2: to the over is the win total at bet MGM

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Speaker 2: who to won to win the division, So that that

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Speaker 2: seems very doable because I think the Lions are a

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Speaker 1: I really like what they've done.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they had just have so many solid to

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Speaker 2: beat because this team is just very balanced, and you know,

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Speaker 2: they're very young, so they should only be getting better.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot to like with green Bay.

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Speaker 3: for kind of a short sample size. But that's today's NFL.

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Speaker 3: You find who you think it could be your franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 3: you pay him. And I don't think it's just agreed to.

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Speaker 3: You know, Daniel Jones or Baker Mayfield. A lot of

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Speaker 3: potential here. Yeah, the weapons are great. I do think

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Jacobs can find his form from two

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Speaker 3: seasons ago, not last year. The offensive line is definitely

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Speaker 3: a concern for me. They just have to stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Morgan is going to play right guard the rookies

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Speaker 3: moving to right guard from tackle. You're gonna have Jenkins

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Speaker 3: Walker was the sixth best defensive tackle from weeks nine

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Speaker 3: two to seventh rounder. So he flashed. The problem is

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking Andre Dillard, Kadeen Telford. So there's

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Speaker 3: even talks like Bakhtiaria. They might bring him back as

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Speaker 3: a much better fit. Joe Barry was a disaster. We

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Speaker 3: three to Ford to a four to three base mainly Nickel,

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Speaker 3: much more aggressive, heavy man quarters on the back end,

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Speaker 3: which I think suits these corners. Well, we'll see if

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Speaker 3: Stokes can take the next step. I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: And then they see who step emerges as the safety

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Speaker 3: next to McKinney, which I think was a great ad.

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Speaker 3: But maybe it's Bullard, Maybe it's the other rookie Williams.

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Speaker 3: also have Nixon, but curious to see how that works out.

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Speaker 3: The defense could end up. They have a lot of

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Speaker 3: pieces here. Rashan Gary now further removed from his injury.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be better. You did lose an important

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Speaker 3: But the pieces are here. It's how will they transition?

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Speaker 3: How will these players transition life into four to three?

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Speaker 3: You know with attacking front, this defense is gonna be

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Speaker 3: all about getting havoc sacks, tackles for loss, complete different mindset.

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Speaker 3: Can walker in the line backers adjust? I think it's

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Speaker 3: a better fit for Kenny Clark, But now you're going

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Speaker 3: one of two waves. It could just be a disaster earlier,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a much better fit. The aggressiveness and

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Speaker 3: like the upside. There one thing that I worry about

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Speaker 3: a couple of things. The schedule gets much tougher, although

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Speaker 1: I really like this team.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, there might be some growing pains

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Speaker 3: I love the hire Shane Waldron first of all, and

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Speaker 3: he's got great weapons around him. He has the arm talent,

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Speaker 1: But they don't usually have supporting CAF like this.

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Speaker 3: No play from me on the Bears, but yeah, Williams

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Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see what Eric Washington the wrinkles

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Speaker 3: but definitely an exciting finally, an exciting time to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really hard to find a bet for

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Speaker 1: You know, the.

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Speaker 3: You know Byron Murphy's not great, but their safeties are

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00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 3: really smart. Harrison Smith can bind him on the back end,

434
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: clean up a lot. Floras can trust him to do

435
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: some complex things. I love the signing of Van Ginkel

436
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 3: and Grenard. I've in pace is he's a menace man.

437
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: He's so small, but I mean he's I love the

438
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: way he plays, and Flora's can do a lot with him.

439
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: Defensive line, not much there, but Flora's like and you know,

440
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: the offense. It's really a shame what happened to Vikings,

441
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: Like if they had, you know, especially with Howkinson with

442
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: Addison McCarthy went down, but if they still had like

443
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: cousins with this roster. But you know, I love the

444
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: get of Aaron Jones. You still have Jefferson, you still

445
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: have two really good tackles. That's a lot to work with.

446
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: The you know, at the end of the day, I

447
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: want to invest in the Vikings somehow because m'connell I

448
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: think is a fantastic coach. He's a great leader, Kevin

449
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 3: O'Connell as a play caller, just as a leader. And

450
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: then Flores I love too. Flores is a absolute menace,

451
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: mad scientist. I mean, in twenty twenty two when he

452
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: was with Miami, they ran the least amount of cover

453
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: two in Minnesota. Last year they ran the most amount

454
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: of cover two. Minnesota led the league, and cover zero

455
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: Din cover zero eleven percent of the time also led

456
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: the league. Drop an eight. He will have three defensive

457
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: ends in there at one time, and in the like

458
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: up the middle. I mean, just what he does to

459
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: confused quarterbacks. Who knows who's gonna come up with this year,

460
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: So like cart of me just wants to trust them

461
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 3: to overperform. But I do think, you know, like the

462
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: quarterback situation isn't great, but it was worse last year.

463
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: So you know, I think, if like riddle me this,

464
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: if Minnesota goes to the playoffs, then I mean, isn't

465
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: it almost a lock that o'connellan's Coach of the Year.

466
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think I would think definitely

467
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: about fifty fifty.

468
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Wouldn't say a lot because you never know.

469
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mean what shouldn't, but yeah, I would

470
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: be probably about fifty fifty for sure.

471
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think buying the upside of the Vikings,

472
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 3: like because this team can't win the super Bowl, right

473
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: and the division is so tough, but like I think

474
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: if everything works out in their favor, they can like

475
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: snag a wild card. But if that happens, maybe you

476
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: split the bet like O'Connell Coach of the Year, Like

477
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: that's if they get to like eight nine wins with Donald,

478
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 3: you know, all the stuff that went on with Adds, Addison, Hockinson,

479
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: McCarthy getting hurt, like all that adds to the allure

480
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: to the narrative award too, and you get to the

481
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: playoffs with Donald in that division, likable guy I think

482
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: matters some. Yeah, I kind of want to just just

483
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: trust the staff. So that's how I would look at

484
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: the Vikings.

485
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to invest in the Vikings, but I

486
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: think I think the well I want them against the

487
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: Giants in week one because you mentioned Flores just gonna

488
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: against Daniel a rusty Daniel.

489
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Jones and who's covering Jefferson right exactly.

490
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: But but the issue is as good as Floraes is,

491
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: look at this slate, This is.

492
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Why I want them in week one.

493
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: But then I might wait until like mid season and

494
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: then kind of buy low on them because listen to

495
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: this after after the Giants versus San Francisco and Shanahan

496
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: offense versus Houston, that's a sheep, Stroud and Swowick at

497
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay. So then you're facing Love and in that

498
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: team I put up forty eight in the playoffs. Then

499
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: against the Jets at home, so then you're facing Aaron

500
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers and a really good defense. Then you have a bye,

501
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: but you have to play Detroit and then you go

502
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: so yeah, and then you go to La to face McVeigh.

503
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: So like Flores is kind of meeting his match. I mean,

504
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: you're you're talking about Shanahan Courts, Yeah, and then the

505
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: culture next and yeah, yeah, let me not even sweep

506
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: on Stichen because he's really good too. And then like

507
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville, I mean, it's not an easy game but

508
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: it's it's a hits, an easy game compared to some

509
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: of the other one ones.

510
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: But like, this is really no let up on this schedule.

511
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you have Verse Arizona in week thirteen, at

512
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: Seattle in week fifteen.

513
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: And that's about it. It's just this. It's so this.

514
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: Team is going to have three schedules in the NFL.

515
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what kind of holds me back.

516
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: But you know, if if we're if they're sitting there

517
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: and they are like one in seven or two and

518
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: six after that that brutal stretch, maybe you buy low

519
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: that they should be getting Hawkinson back.

520
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Addison's getting healthy.

521
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you're either gonna make a quarterback switch or

522
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: Darnold's kind of growing into the system. So I think

523
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: this is gonna have to be a second half team

524
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: if they're if they're if they're good, I think because

525
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I just San Francisco, Houston, Green Bay Jets, Detroit Rams,

526
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I see more than one or

527
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: two wins, so they have to be done.

528
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe just some caps change on Mike O'Connell Coach

529
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: of the.

530
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, like it's I mean, yeah, if he gets

531
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: there with that, with that strength to schedule. Yeah, I

532
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: mean that that's that would that would be something.

533
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: All right?

534
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: Uh, NFC West San Francisco eleven and a half plus

535
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: one oh five to the over minus two hundred score.

536
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: The division looks like they're.

537
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: Favorite in every game, but every here we kind of

538
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: look at San Francisco say there could be some regression

539
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: and then it's like moot. But I mean Trent Williams,

540
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: that's that's he's not he's not in the camp right, no, right,

541
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: and that because there you talk about you talk about

542
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: clown cars. I mean, the rest of this offensive line

543
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: is kind of shaky. And then we still haven't reached

544
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: the deal with a Yuk, So you know, those are

545
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: two important guys kind of hanging in the balance. The defense,

546
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there they lost Armstead. You know, the defense

547
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: kind of could go either way. It could be worse

548
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: than last year. So I mean, what are your thoughts

549
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: on the Niners here?

550
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, A couple of additions that I liked on the

551
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: defense side of Elite Collins at linebacker and DeAndre Campbell,

552
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: who have a prior experience in this exact scheme, so

553
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: that really helps. It's hard to talk about the Niners

554
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: without knowing what's gonna happen with Ayuk, And I mean

555
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: Trent Williams is just so important to everything that they do,

556
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: and then so is Ayuk. Like you know, Deepot Sam

557
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: was more of a gadget guy. And then you know

558
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: you def Jennings and Pearsalt like your wide receiver.

559
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Room because you could you could the X right.

560
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

561
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now you don't have a guy who can

562
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: just wind up and beat coverage at the line of

563
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: scrimmage like you said you could. I mean, Debo is

564
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: more of a you know, with a free release, go

565
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: move him around, that kind of thing. But yeah, who's

566
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: your ex? Who's your ex? That's my question, is it?

567
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: If I guess, yeah, I would assumed.

568
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean he had a great, great Super Bowl, but yeah,

569
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be.

570
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Trent Tailor. So yeah, I mean

571
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: I project them at eleven wins right now. But there's

572
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: some downside of this team. And I think that the

573
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, Arizona is improving. I think Seattle is getting better,

574
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: the Rams, but like this division is not as big

575
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: of a joke as it has been in some years recently.

576
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: So if I had a bet, I would bet under

577
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: right now, especially with the uncertainty with some of these guys,

578
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: and even if they come back, they might be signed

579
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: like a couple of weeks in, or they might not

580
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: be ready right away, like are they in game shape.

581
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: They might not play Week one against the Jets, which

582
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: is like one of your harder games early on in

583
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: the season, and I think this is a back It's

584
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: a pretty backloaded schedule, so the first five weeks are

585
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: pretty easy, which maybe helps their case overall. I have

586
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: the Niners with you know, the eleventh hardest schedule in

587
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: the NFL, close to league average, but I project eleven

588
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: right now, but a lot of uncertainty. Secondary still has

589
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: questions for sure, going to kick Lenore outside, looks like

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna probably roll with Bernardo green in the nickel.

591
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: I think that's the way that it's going to go.

592
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: Second round pick out of Florida State. Maybe it's your

593
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: guy Wollmack, your boy will Mac ends up getting in there.

594
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: But there's definitely still some questions at in the secondary

595
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: outside of Ward. But I do like the signing of

596
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: Campbell because green Law is going to probably miss most

597
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: of the year. I do like the signing of Collins,

598
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: a lot of familiarity, scheme familiarity there. So yeah, defense

599
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: did have issues last year, especially against the run, very passive.

600
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: Bringing in a new you got rid of your defense

601
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: coordinator who I don't think either of us liked last

602
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: year and Wilkes, and it was really passive and his

603
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: adjustments were really bad. One of the reasons why I've

604
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: bet Sam fran first half in the Super Bowl and

605
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: you had Kansas City for the game, because I was

606
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: afraid of Wilk's not making adjustments, which she didn't, and

607
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: so you're going to bring you Nick Sorenson is you know,

608
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: a lot of scheme familiarity to like really basic static

609
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: defense here with your your cover three base with quarters.

610
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: But so it aligns with what they want to do.

611
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: He says that he wants to be more aggressive, play free.

612
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: It's what everyone, every coordinator says. But they want to

613
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: be basic played I think they want to be a

614
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: little more aggressive. The curious thing here is Brandon Staley

615
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: is a defensive assistant and kind of in Sorenson's ear,

616
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: and you know is the passing game coordinator. They are

617
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: two completely different philosophies. I mean Staley's all about like

618
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: a very complex fangio tree. Sorenson from the San Fran

619
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: completely wants to be more basic static, So I'm curious

620
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: to see how, like does he just incorporate some of

621
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: those wrinkles, how that works into the defense. Just something

622
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on. But a lot of them

623
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: certaing with San Fran right now. If anything, I'd go

624
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: under but pass as of now.

625
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: The back end of that schedule mentioned, it's backloaded week

626
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: twelve at green Bay, week thirteen at Buffalo, week fourteen

627
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: versus Chicago, week fifteen versus the Rams, Week sixteen at Miami,

628
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Week seventeen versus Detroit. So that's probably going to decide

629
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: that that win total, right, and then you know, a

630
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: couple of weeks before that, you know they have they

631
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: come out of the by with Tampa and Seattle, but

632
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: heading into the by versu Kansas City and versus Dallas.

633
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's the first six games.

634
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: They'll probably go. You know, they probably can rail off.

635
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: I would say probably five and one or four and

636
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: two because they usually beat the Rams, which are the

637
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: second hardest team. In those first six weeks. The Jets

638
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: are the only tough like are the toughest one, but yeah,

639
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City Dallas then two easier ones than at Green

640
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Bay at Buffalo or Chicago versus Rams, at Miami versus Detroit.

641
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: There's definitely a potential there where if things aren't going smoothly,

642
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: they could go under. But yeah, gotta know what's going

643
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: on with Trent and I you because that they they

644
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: materially affect like your points spreads projection.

645
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Which is why I would just be under or nothing.

646
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

647
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Rams eight and a half minus one fifty five to

648
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: the over is the win total at bet MVM plus

649
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: three twenty five to win the division. This RAM team,

650
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: like the offense the defense, seems to always find a

651
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: way to overperform despite you know, the like or out

652
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: overperform the talent level. Now, they did start to add

653
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: some talent Jarard Verse out of Florida on the edge.

654
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: They add they at Bradon Fisk in the third round

655
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: and the second round, so you know they're they're starting

656
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: they mos Donald. But this RAM team well coached, solid offense,

657
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: good quarterback. They're probably be better than eight and a half.

658
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: They're probably a nine one team in my opinion at least.

659
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: But you know, tough.

660
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those kind of teams in the NFC.

661
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: So where are you on on La?

662
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the offense stays healthy, it'll be good. Can

663
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: Stafford Cup Can they stay healthy? It's pretty much on

664
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: questions of mcaday offense. It's going to be good, heavy eleven,

665
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: it's going to be productive. It's all just about health.

666
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: I like bringing Jonah Jackson a guard, kicking Steve Avila

667
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: into center. Well that's his natural position in college too,

668
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that'll be good. And if you

669
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: mentioned they got two kids out of Florida State in

670
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: Verse and fifth last year, they you know, they don't

671
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: have a lot of draft capital, and they hit last

672
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: year on Young and Turner. Can they hit again on

673
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: and can both those guys have as good of a year?

674
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean they have outstanding years. Can all four of

675
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: those young guys have good years? Because the secondary is

676
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: concerning to me, I don't love to save these. Trey

677
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: White is going to be healthy and when coming off

678
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: a really bad injury. Darius Williams in a good year

679
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: last year, Still not completely sold on him, and he

680
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: lost Aaron Donald. I mean he was he get triple teams.

681
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: Maybe put some of these younger guys had great years.

682
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just Turner take a step back? Does Brown take

683
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: a step back? Without Donald?

684
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: There?

685
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: Both of those guys were very very good last year.

686
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean just so much better than you would have

687
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: ever thought they would be that.

688
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I have the defense taking a big

689
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: step back after the loss of Donald. The other thing

690
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: is this team because of some of the things that

691
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: have happened in recent is depth no depth, which what

692
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: does that mean? We laughed about it last year the

693
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: podcast and their special teams ended up being.

694
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't Caliga the worst rate I've ever had

695
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Party or whatever his name is where they got Josh Party.

696
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: He was good at Stamford, But special teams in general,

697
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: they just they can't do anything right. Might cost him

698
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: some close games. But because I have the defense taking

699
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: a step back, because I have the special team is

700
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: so bad. You know, I'm only around eight and a half,

701
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: so nothing for me with the Rams. But you know,

702
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: if these young guys in the defense with this offense,

703
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: if they stay healthy, they'll be in the mix. So

704
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: especially I don't mind like some upside bets on the

705
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: Rams do in the division or NFC.

706
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: And really another thing I think Room's large is just

707
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: the the status of those Niners guys, because it seems

708
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: like every year the Rams dropped two games to the Niners,

709
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: which sets them behind the eight ball.

710
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: If they could they could start.

711
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Winning those games, then then it's a whole different story,

712
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: because I think the schedule there's enough, there's a way,

713
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: there's it's not a you know, they have some tough games.

714
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Obviously you play the Lions and the.

715
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Jets, but in the Bills and the Eagles, but a

716
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: lot of winnable games in there as well.

717
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: So more so by the way, it's not the reason

718
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: I the defense taking step back, losing.

719
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Him true, true, very true.

720
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: Internal I'm not sure he's gonna be able to make

721
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: this adjustments, and it's going to be pretty similar Steamise,

722
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: I would imagine, but I don't think it's going to

723
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: be as good. I think that hurts him and Donald,

724
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: but nothing for me.

725
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: In the Rams, the offense should be good, so probably

726
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: about it. Probably an overteam.

727
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Speaker 2: in the episode description. All right, two more Seattle seven

741
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: and a half is the win total juice to the

742
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: over at minus one forty plus seven fifty to win

743
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: a division at bet MGM. They move on from longtime

744
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: head coach Pete Carroll. They move on from Shane Waldron,

745
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinators. So you got McDonald, you got Grub,

746
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: you got I mean, this is just a different This

747
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: is gonna be a different looking team because Caamy Carroll

748
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: was the coach for so long and he had a

749
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: certain culture there.

750
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: So I mean, just how do you think this?

751
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna be the biggest differences

752
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: for this Seattle Seahawk team.

753
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, defense will look drastically different. I'm a huge McDonald guy.

754
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: It's gonna have great game plans every week as a

755
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: great secondary to work with. They improved the defensive line.

756
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: I think they improved at linebacker as well. So I

757
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: think this defense overall has improved, and just from a

758
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: schematic and preparation standpoint, they're gonna be much better. The

759
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, and also love the hire of Ryan Grubb.

760
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: I think he can hold Gino's hand similar to what

761
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: was done last year. Gin know, you know he wasn't

762
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: great on third downs, but you know when he was

763
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: passing with play action and unpredictable downs, he can make

764
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: the pros and they have the weapons. The only thing

765
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: so I want to I want to bet on McDonald.

766
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: I want to bet on Grub. The only thing that

767
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: so I would bet on like the upside, little bit

768
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: the upside cause there's so much change. So it'd probably

769
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: like to make the playoffs, maybe a shot to win

770
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 3: the division. But the only thing I'm herried about is

771
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: is the offensive line.

772
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to be bad.

773
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: It could be really bad. You Abraham Lucas is hurt

774
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: right now. They need him to bounce back as of

775
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: right now. It's George Fanton there. You know you have

776
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: you did sign Connor Williams. When is he going to

777
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: be ready? That's a big signing. I think he's coming

778
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: off of an injury. You're right guard, Anthony Bradford is bad.

779
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 3: Maybe it's Christian Nanes gets in there, the rookie Lake

780
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: and Tomlinson and left guard he's bad. I actually like

781
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: Charles Cross and left tackle more than a lot of people.

782
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: But they were I mean they were like twenty eighth

783
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: and pass blocking last year and under pressure Gina Smith

784
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: last year. One of the reasons he's bad on third

785
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: down when he wasn't getting his handheld, you know, under pressure.

786
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: He was twenty fifth in yards per attempt twenty third

787
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: and big time throw percentage in a clean pocket, big

788
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: time throw percentage first, passing grade fifth, yards per attempt fifth,

789
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: So he got to keep him up right. So I'm

790
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: gonta keep my eye on the offensive line how it

791
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: comes together some of the injuries there. But want to

792
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: invest in McDonald obviously, So I'm looking to invest in

793
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: Seattle maybe to make the playoffs would lean over.

794
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Hey, they just improved situationally on offense.

795
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean cross if you just cross can kind of

796
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: And he did improve as a pass winder.

797
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: I think he was getting better in one of years.

798
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: If you have one.

799
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: Good tackle and Williams continues to play well at center,

800
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: he's been very good.

801
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I leust you have at least you have

802
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: the two of the.

803
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Three most important positions on the line, and then you know,

804
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: maybe you could use the tight end to block the

805
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: other side and help Lucas or whoever's gonna be at

806
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: right tackle out but uh each other.

807
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go. So it's this could work.

808
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: This could work.

809
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Arizona six and a half is the win total

810
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: minus one sixty to the over, so you know, probably

811
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: taking some money on on on Arizona. I understand why.

812
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: I think I think Arizona's being a little underrated. You know,

813
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, say what you want about him, but he's

814
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: always been as a passer just a lot more efficient

815
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: when he has that kind of true number one. I mean,

816
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: when he has DeAndre Hopkins compared to when he doesn't,

817
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: the numbers are night and day. It's like, you know,

818
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: well aboffally Gaveragar for a tempt versus well under without him.

819
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: So Harrison could be a major change.

820
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: Uh. You know, they they found something in the run

821
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: game latlast year and they you know, even if Connor

822
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: gets hurt, they they draft Benson, So there should be

823
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: somewhat of a floor to their to their run game.

824
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is gonna have a whole offseason in the scheme.

825
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Remember he was hurt last year, didn't play until mid season.

826
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Trey McBride another year, He's going to be a key piece.

827
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: Wilson year two, your boy Greg Dortsch should should have

828
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: a pretty big role. Maybe everyone's finally right, right, So,

829
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean the offensive line is a little shaky, but

830
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray should be more mobile than he was last year.

831
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: And I generally like what who is there? Cetsing? Uh

832
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: what they did?

833
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: What he did on offensively? So my my thing is

834
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: the defense because Austin Ford, Austin Ford is the GM, right, Yeah,

835
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: Austin Ford. I just didn't I haven't really agreed with

836
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: many of the moves he's made, you know, defensively. I

837
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: just I think there's been some some kind of discrepancies

838
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: and like his evaluations of talent compared to just mine

839
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: and with reality it is. But so they still might

840
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: have one of the worst defenses. But I'm bullsh on

841
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: the offense.

842
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, Yeah, the defense just doesn't have

843
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: much talent. I want to buy this team, but can

844
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: the defense get stops because I think the offense with

845
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: Harrison my boy derch McBride, Connor mary Back, they had

846
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: a ton of bad injury luck last year. And I'm

847
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: a huge fan of what they're doing defensively schematically some

848
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: of the things that they're doing, running a lot of

849
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: interesting like nine space and quarters stuff, and it's just

850
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: really good and innovative defense from like kind of a

851
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: an evolved Fangio thing. But the talent just isn't there.

852
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you need Max Melton to hit. I think

853
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 3: he's kind of a good fit for this defense. Buddha

854
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: Baker's still there. You had Sean Murphy Bunning, so like

855
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: you got marginally better, especially if Melton can hit as

856
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: a rookie. But like, I mean, you look up front,

857
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: there's a linebacker and defensive line. Yeah, add some just

858
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: like replacement level players, But yeah, there's this defense is

859
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: it's just hard no matter what you're doing schematically, it's

860
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: hard to see them getting many stops. So you know,

861
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: maybe if an injury, luck, some close game shootouts go

862
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: their way, s cential team to grab a wild card

863
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: in the NFL if everything goes right. So if I

864
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Speaker 3: were about on the Cardinals, maybe it's just a flyer

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00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: on to make the playoffs. But I think, yeah, if

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00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 3: they just had a couple more guys on defense, they'd

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00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: be much more intriguing to bet on. But they're just

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00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: gonna be in some high variant shootouts, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an over team. It's profile as an overteam.

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00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I minus when sixty, I'm not going over

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00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: six and a half on that. So yeah, I'm probably

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00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna betting this team over from week to week because yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really I'm not a fan.

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Speaker 1: Great door MVP.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I randomly was looking at bucks h

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Speaker 3: Bucks futures today and I was trying to find a

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Speaker 3: wind total and I was searching, I saw a prop

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield to lead the league in rushing one hundred

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00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: to one. That is outrageous. That should be a million

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00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: to one. It was just offered in the one hundred

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Speaker 3: to one. What Baker may feelded rushing last year a

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Speaker 3: hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a little more.

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00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: I think he had more than usual, but not anything

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00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: substantial like what it was.

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Speaker 3: Let's see Lamar, well, I bet Lamar has more rushing

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Speaker 3: yards in a game than.

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Speaker 2: One sixty three his his entire career, He's been between

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Speaker 2: uh like one thirty one and one sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Pret much?

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00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you have Daniels and Williams and yeah,

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00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 3: all these other hundred to one come on anyway.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you can't bet. No, you can't bet

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Speaker 1: the other side of it. So yeah, so please don't

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Speaker 1: bet that.

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Speaker 3: That's if you take one thing from this podcast. Don't

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Speaker 3: bet Baker Mayfield a legal league in rushing. Uh So

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Speaker 3: quick summary. Arizona and Seattle maybe upside and maybe Vikings

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00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: like an O'Connell bet kind of lean Niners under as

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00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: of now as well. I will be involved in Seattle Minnesota,

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00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: maybe Arizona upsides in some former fashion, howbout you?

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00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: The one that stands out for me is green Bay

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00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: two to one to win the division. I think that's

904
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: a fair price because I do think it's a three

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00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: team race.

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00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay over went over nine and a half. You know,

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00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: I think they get to ten, but it's it's a

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00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: little iffy. So I like the division better.

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00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: And outside of that, I mean again, I can't bet

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00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: San Francisco without knowing what. I don't want to bet

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00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: San Francisco under and then they get their guys back.

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00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: And then they're just humming along like usual.

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00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: So nothing for really for me on the on the

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00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: uh on the NFC West with with Arizona's being so

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00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: juiced to the the over.

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00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: But I am intrigued.

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00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: I do think Seattle may surprise people, so that one

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00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: I have to I have to look more in I

919
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm there yet with them making the playoffs,

920
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: because I still like Chicago more, I still like the

921
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: Rams more. But I do think Seattle could be over underrated,

922
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: especially if they can solve that if they get good

923
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: play out of at least one packle.

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00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, and it's a team I'm going to be

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00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 3: looking at that this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so well yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Week to week, I could see taking a lot of

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00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: I could see taking Seattle. I could see them having

929
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: a good against the spread record this year. But really,

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00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: Green Bay is a team that I think could be

931
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: just kind of border almost like the Lions last year,

932
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: just you know, kind of make that take that next step,

933
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: just based on what I've seen down the stretch and

934
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: the fact that they got rid of Barry finally.

935
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how I'm feeling about this division.

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00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: That's gonna wrap it up, NFC North, NFC West.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to check.

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Speaker 2: Out our NFC Part one where we go into the

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Speaker 2: NFC East and the NFC South. Our two AFC episodes

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