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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick Shot
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicki Spagnola. Well, well, I'm sure not Everson. So
Speaker 1: we got one old white sportscaster one and one black
Speaker 1: former player. So I think everybody's got their roles. He
Speaker 1: got one out of the three, right, And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's what I was trying to tell you. Everybody's got
Speaker 1: their roles. I can play my role, okay, and your
Speaker 1: guy's role is to pay attention to me. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Because we don't have Bill Jones here today, we don't
Speaker 1: have Everson Walls here today, so we had to go
Speaker 1: to the bullpen. But in our bullpen, our depth is
Speaker 1: so good. Yes, we have starters in there coming out
Speaker 1: of a bullpen. Nate Newton right across from me. Brad Sham,
Speaker 1: the voice of the Dallas Cowboys joining us special guest, right,
Speaker 1: and how about this between the three of us, We've
Speaker 1: been together for thirty four years. Wow, you showed up
Speaker 1: in eighty six, right, Brad was already here by that time,
Speaker 1: ten years. Yes, and I got here in eighty four.
Speaker 1: So when you showed up the three of us, we've
Speaker 1: been kind of doing something with these Dallas Cowboys ever since.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and I appreciate it. I've been blessed and
Speaker 1: we've been blessed to get to know who used to
Speaker 1: be the kitchen. All right, well, we are gonna do
Speaker 1: a little cowboy talk here on this Thursday. Need to
Speaker 1: point out that the Cowboys finally got in a full
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. It's been a while since they've been
Speaker 1: able to practice, and they hit the pause button today
Speaker 1: for Marcus Paul's memorial service. It was held at the
Speaker 1: North Colony Church of Christ, which is in Colony, Texas,
Speaker 1: just down the road from here, and the Cowboys decided
Speaker 1: that if they got a little football stuff in in
Speaker 1: the morning, because I'm sure everybody had to show up
Speaker 1: to get tested as they do on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: they did a little bit of football and then they
Speaker 1: paused and allowed the players to virtually watch the memorial service,
Speaker 1: which I think was a really good idea. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you guys, but when I heard Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked the other day about this pause that they've had
Speaker 1: has given them time to reflect after Marcus's death the
Speaker 1: day before for Thanksgiving. I think that helped out. I
Speaker 1: think it helped out if especially if you saw the
Speaker 1: interviews with the guys on Wednesday, you can tell it
Speaker 1: the emotions were still pretty raw with Layton Vanderish the
Speaker 1: things that he had to say, So I think that
Speaker 1: certainly helped out. It was ended up being a ninety
Speaker 1: minute memorial service and it was pretty pretty well done,
Speaker 1: pretty emotional, but I think it was something that these
Speaker 1: players needed to see. I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on it, but I think it
Speaker 1: will help out in the grieving process. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's And if you just want to know what
Speaker 1: the impact of this event was, Mike McCarthy, I believe now,
Speaker 1: and forgive me, because you're talking about Wednesday and Thursday
Speaker 1: and I have no idea what the hell do right,
Speaker 1: I don't know what day it is in real life,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what day it is in football
Speaker 1: week because I can go from if you tell me,
Speaker 1: I got a Thursday game, Thursday game, then Friday's Monday,
Speaker 1: and I'm good to go. But I had right now.
Speaker 1: I got no idea what day it is, but I
Speaker 1: believe it was Monday of this week, real Monday, when
Speaker 1: McCarthy spoke right now, when he said, at like midday,
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning, whatever it was, that he
Speaker 1: had not yet watched the tape of the game before.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was last Friday, maybe it was the day
Speaker 1: after the game. Yeah, he had not Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: had not watched the tape because he'd been on the
Speaker 1: phone all morning talking to people from around the league
Speaker 1: who worked with and knew Marcus. Now, when's the last
Speaker 1: time you heard a head coach at like noon, the
Speaker 1: day after a day game say that he hadn't watched
Speaker 1: the tape. Yeah, I mean that's never. I have never
Speaker 1: experienced that. And you can tell he was not over it,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of those guys are not
Speaker 1: over it. So I agree with you. I think they
Speaker 1: needed I think they needed the time. Maybe you were,
Speaker 1: you know, you would know better, Nate in the locker room. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you could, you can just imagine somebody dying right
Speaker 1: in front of your eyes. What kind of an impact
Speaker 1: that would have on you is somebody like that who
Speaker 1: you're around so much, you know, uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: gruff guy. But coach Warsick was close to us, like
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, and uh, you know, and and me,
Speaker 1: I just I just say prayers to the family and
Speaker 1: and and I hope that these players can get through
Speaker 1: it in the coaches and you know, it's just, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's a sad thing when you lose somebody you love, friend,
Speaker 1: family or whatever. So I you know, when I hear
Speaker 1: things like that. Man, you know, it ain't like I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that no one's important, but when
Speaker 1: you have a guy that has to touch every player
Speaker 1: and some coaches with their workout schedules, and he leads
Speaker 1: these guys out on the field for stretch and brings
Speaker 1: them up and when every injury, he's a part of it.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's the impact that I can't even express.
Speaker 1: And so as you say sorry to the family, in
Speaker 1: to his family, personal family, into the cowboy family, you guys,
Speaker 1: because every time I saw him, he was smiling, smiling,
Speaker 1: and he spoke to me, and he was on the run. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was always moving right, yeah, but he always had
Speaker 1: a smile and He always had a nice word. And
Speaker 1: you know, since twenty eleven with the Collective Bargaining Agreement,
Speaker 1: strength coaches have their hands literally and figuratively on the
Speaker 1: players months before their position coaches. They're quote unquote football coaches.
Speaker 1: They're like the head coach at that time, right, and
Speaker 1: they have them all year round. If you're hurt, you're
Speaker 1: not maybe in a meeting with your position coach and
Speaker 1: your coordinator, but you're darn shure with the trainers and
Speaker 1: the conditioning staff. They just touch everybody. Think how much
Speaker 1: time Laton Vander has spent with him after having the
Speaker 1: surgery he had last year and then having to rehab,
Speaker 1: you know, in the building, and because of the COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: the guys that were rehabbing were the only ones allowed
Speaker 1: to be in there. And the strength and conditioning so him,
Speaker 1: he and Marcus Paul and Britt Brown, you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're tight. And then he breaks his collar bone and
Speaker 1: now he's back in there working with those guys again.
Speaker 1: You know, make there's a thing about um that you're
Speaker 1: talking about why they needed the time. And it occurs
Speaker 1: to me, we see these gay you and I we
Speaker 1: see these guys and I put Nate in the category
Speaker 1: of these guys. These are they all know they can
Speaker 1: be injured when they play. They're aware of that. They've
Speaker 1: all been injured in some degree at some point. But
Speaker 1: this is not an injury. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: these players, especially the players coach is usually a little older,
Speaker 1: and they figured out they're they're not quite so immortal.
Speaker 1: But players football players have to, in my opinion, have
Speaker 1: some sense of invincibility about them to go out and
Speaker 1: play this game. You can't worry about getting hurt. And
Speaker 1: that's the that's the ultimate thing. And you know, we
Speaker 1: always joke about Nate probably lived a little bit of
Speaker 1: this about guys in any sport who are active players
Speaker 1: think of themselves as young men, as being bulletproof and
Speaker 1: invisible right right, and now, this is not an injury.
Speaker 1: This is a slap in the face, bucket of cold
Speaker 1: water right in front of your eyes. You're mortal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know what it made me think back? So
Speaker 1: what I did, and I mentioned it, I think on
Speaker 1: our show a day or so ago or whenever, like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what day it is. I
Speaker 1: counted up. There's fifty three guys on the roster, there's
Speaker 1: sixteen practice squad guys and whoever else is on injured reserve.
Speaker 1: So we're talking seventies some guys, right, And I counted
Speaker 1: up forty nine guys on this team are no more
Speaker 1: than twenty five years old. Think back to when you
Speaker 1: were twenty five and and think about you know, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're not around death to young people or people
Speaker 1: you know, maybe your grandparents something like that. But to
Speaker 1: these guys, this guy was like a father to him
Speaker 1: in there, and at that young age, you got to
Speaker 1: deal with death. And I was thinking back to myself
Speaker 1: and I only could think of one person was my
Speaker 1: cousin's husband. My cousin's ten years older than me. It
Speaker 1: was her husband passed away, and I remember being just
Speaker 1: I was mad. I was like what, why and how
Speaker 1: and how old was he? He was? He I don't
Speaker 1: even think he had hit maybe forty at the most.
Speaker 1: He was. He was a former marine, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was like, God, what what's going on? And I
Speaker 1: remember being mad. So yeah, I think it was good.
Speaker 1: And I don't how close you guys got to Marcus Um.
Speaker 1: You know, i'd see him, I'd say hi, right, because
Speaker 1: the weight room is that's their domain, right, you don't
Speaker 1: go in there. You just don't go in there. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think the longest conversation I had with him
Speaker 1: one day, so it'd have been two years ago. I
Speaker 1: was showing somebody around and we were looking through the
Speaker 1: glass wall to the weight room and the guy was
Speaker 1: pretty impressed with everything. All of a sudden, Marcus comes
Speaker 1: out and I wouldn't even know he knew who I was,
Speaker 1: and he's going, hey, Mickey, Mickey, I go what He goes,
Speaker 1: Mike Weissick wants you come in? And I said he
Speaker 1: does what just like that, right? We don't oisick? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah ed? He says, yeah, yeah, come in. So we
Speaker 1: kind of chatted as I walked in, and Mike was like, hey,
Speaker 1: bring the guy in here, show him around. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I was like, oh, okay, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, that was the real right, that is right.
Speaker 1: But the boy his exterior was don't tread on my
Speaker 1: treadmill in here there. Yeah. And so what Marcus Paul
Speaker 1: was was the real Mike Woyseek without the gruff. He
Speaker 1: could be businesslike because he had to be, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't great. He was just he was a sweet man,
Speaker 1: and think about the fine line those guys have to
Speaker 1: draw between being that nice to these guys, befriending the players,
Speaker 1: but also saying, oh, oh wait a minute, now, you're
Speaker 1: not getting away with murder in here just because I'm
Speaker 1: friendly with you. And I saw someoney comment about that,
Speaker 1: but really that was the longest conversation I might have
Speaker 1: had with him. And I was sitting there reading all
Speaker 1: the tributes, all the tweets, and I'm going, you know
Speaker 1: what I missed out. I missed out on getting to
Speaker 1: know a really neat guy because I just just wasn't
Speaker 1: around him that much. And I don't know how much
Speaker 1: interaction you guys. I mean, you know, after time, after
Speaker 1: all this time, I really try to foster That's this,
Speaker 1: by the way, the hardest thing for me about this year.
Speaker 1: I really try to foster some kind of a personal
Speaker 1: relationship with as many people as I can, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna learn something and U and sometimes you run into
Speaker 1: Marcus Paul who there's never an interview that you want
Speaker 1: from him, right, there's never a quote. It's just you're
Speaker 1: gonna be better off for knowing him. And so I
Speaker 1: know him a little bit and we had several conversations
Speaker 1: and he it's you can really understand why you were
Speaker 1: completely right. They needed the time. Did you get to
Speaker 1: know him at all? Like I said, I just met
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. But the greatness did you
Speaker 1: play again? Did you not play again? But let me
Speaker 1: say this, fellas, I have nothing more to add to
Speaker 1: take away because the greatness of a man is how
Speaker 1: many people that that were miss him And it's just
Speaker 1: not no one that's not gonna miss him. So that
Speaker 1: showed you what's a guy was. Now some guys that
Speaker 1: then went away and I'd be like, wow, okay, and
Speaker 1: you go to bed, but this guy here, you pray
Speaker 1: for his family? Yeah yeah, and and and it was
Speaker 1: certainly tough on him, his kids, his wife. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it was could you could you give us a list
Speaker 1: of some of those guys who some guy that go
Speaker 1: away and just go to bed, some guys pray for him.
Speaker 1: But it was a it was a really neat uh
Speaker 1: memorial service people talk to, you know, And before this happened,
Speaker 1: I didn't put two and two together that uh Marcus
Speaker 1: and DJ were teammates at Syracuse. Not only were they teammates,
Speaker 1: have you yes, Have you seen the pictures? Have you
Speaker 1: seen Daryl Johnston's quotes about Darryl wore thirty two and
Speaker 1: Marcus wore ten. And Daryl tweeted the day after Marcus
Speaker 1: passed he said, every every time they're in the same
Speaker 1: class nineteen eighty nine, and Darryl said, every time he
Speaker 1: walks past a clock and it's ten thirty two, that's
Speaker 1: he said, that's me and Marcus he's ten, I'm thirty two.
Speaker 1: And that's how kind that's the kind of an impact
Speaker 1: he had on Darryl as a teammates. You said, co captains. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's going back. Yeah. So eighty four, almost forty
Speaker 1: years eighty four was their freshman year at at Sarah
Speaker 1: excuse they got together. And I don't think I'm giving
Speaker 1: away anything, but one of his h his Marcus's roommate
Speaker 1: for those years at Syracuse, was at the memorial service
Speaker 1: and spoke and they've they've been tight, and like DJ,
Speaker 1: if you've heard DJ talk about it, he basically pointed
Speaker 1: out that you know, you you get busy, right, and
Speaker 1: you hey, we were close and we knew each other,
Speaker 1: and he said, but not until he got here that
Speaker 1: they kind of reconnect on a personal basis because DJ
Speaker 1: was part of the expendables, right, the guys that would
Speaker 1: come in and work out, the old guys Tony Tilbert,
Speaker 1: and that they didn't drag you in there. They try,
Speaker 1: they try it, but you know what, see who did
Speaker 1: you turn down? Yeah? But you know, and once again,
Speaker 1: it's certain people that I look at. If coach Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson say nice things about you, well that's a pretty
Speaker 1: short list. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So when I
Speaker 1: hear you got like coach Johns, Wow, you know, Markus
Speaker 1: tesched a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, he certainly did,
Speaker 1: and and and and I guess I didn't realize or
Speaker 1: take the time to read it about his career at
Speaker 1: Syracuse getting drafted in the fourth round by the Bear.
Speaker 1: So you would have played against him in that playoff
Speaker 1: game ninety one season. Sure. And uh that's why it
Speaker 1: was so ironic that Washington was the team that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys played when that happened, because Ron Rivera was teammates
Speaker 1: with Marcus Paul Chicago. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: his antenna when he got back into coaching strength and
Speaker 1: conditioning with Wisik and New Orleans and then going to
Speaker 1: New England, then going to the Jets, and then the Giants,
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize he was with the Giants for
Speaker 1: eleven seasons, won two more Super Bowls. It's got five
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings. Wow, it's amazing. But that maybe that's
Speaker 1: the test of a man, you know, not what you accomplished,
Speaker 1: but the trail that you kind of left behind and
Speaker 1: the people you touched. All Right, we're off to a
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Speaker 1: So this is kind of like a old home week, right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it is. Wow. So the Cowboys, Um, we'll get back
Speaker 1: to practice tomorrow. I believe that's Friday Wednesday. They did
Speaker 1: have somewhat of a practice. Uh, they treated it as
Speaker 1: the first practice back from a bye week. So he
Speaker 1: went kind of easy on them. And then they did
Speaker 1: something where teams don't normally get to do. They watched
Speaker 1: the next opponent on TV. Had the opportunity to do
Speaker 1: that after their meetings as by positions. Do you ever
Speaker 1: do that with your teammates? Watch the next opponent live
Speaker 1: on television? A possible opponent. We had a shot, I
Speaker 1: think when Jimmy first got had to get into playoffs,
Speaker 1: so we all admitted a Cowboy cafe. The last that
Speaker 1: was the last game of the nineties season. You needed
Speaker 1: New Orleans to lose. It was Green Bay, Yeah, somebody.
Speaker 1: The reason that I remember is I did the game
Speaker 1: in Green Bay for CBS Radio and they had to lose.
Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys were in Atlanta in a rainstorm
Speaker 1: and that was Babe Waffenberg's last He was talking about
Speaker 1: the next game. Yeah, this was the Monday night game.
Speaker 1: We needed them somebody to win. They needed the way
Speaker 1: before the last week. They need they needed the UH
Speaker 1: Saint Star lose to the Rams. And it was Monday
Speaker 1: night and it went down to the last second of
Speaker 1: the game, and I believe h New Orleans kicked the
Speaker 1: winning field goal as time expired, and but they were
Speaker 1: all there watching the game. But if you were at
Speaker 1: Cowboys Cafe and it was nineteen ninety, we're any of
Speaker 1: you paying attention to the game. But we were. We
Speaker 1: were into that game. And I'll tell you once we
Speaker 1: saw that we wasn't in it, then later yeah, we
Speaker 1: wobbled out. They run out of beer or crown or
Speaker 1: whatever else. Yes, sir, seven and nine was going to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Yes, so don't be making fun of
Speaker 1: seven to nine this year. Right, you would have thought
Speaker 1: that was the greatest thing in the world. As a player.
Speaker 1: You you never give up as a player, You never
Speaker 1: give up. You just you never know what happened. You
Speaker 1: just never give up. And that's kind of the situation.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are in now at three and eighth, five
Speaker 1: games to go, and they will return to practice on Friday.
Speaker 1: So today is Tuesday, yes, yes, yes, yes, And then
Speaker 1: you got Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. You travel, but they
Speaker 1: normally practice on Saturday, which is Monday's Saturday. Right, so
Speaker 1: practice and travel. So now I think I'm gonna now
Speaker 1: I can. And the only problem now, now now I
Speaker 1: know that that Thursday is Tuesday, But the problem is
Speaker 1: the Baltimore team that we saw yesterday was still missing
Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen COVID patients, right, and they they can
Speaker 1: get eight of them back, Yes, they can. Will they
Speaker 1: get the quarterback back? I mean he's one of them
Speaker 1: who can come back. Okay, The tight end Andrews from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: he won't be back, And the wide receiver who used
Speaker 1: to be with New Orleans he won't be back, Snead.
Speaker 1: And there's one other player who won't be back, a linebacker.
Speaker 1: The rest of them can come back. So um, I'm
Speaker 1: not entirely sure how much good they got out of
Speaker 1: watching that game in terms of preparing for what Baltimore
Speaker 1: can do or will do. Their center yesterday was a
Speaker 1: rookie who has been on he's been inactive all year
Speaker 1: and it was his first NFL snaps because their first
Speaker 1: two centers are on the COVID list, and one of
Speaker 1: those guys is their backup guard and tackle also, so
Speaker 1: I mean all of that stuff's different. So joined the
Speaker 1: Cowboys boat, yeah, but same thing except injuries instead of COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on their offensive line, right on their offensive line. So
Speaker 1: will these guys see here's the key thing, though, do
Speaker 1: they get back allowed back into the building. To be
Speaker 1: able to practice for the game, because I start counting
Speaker 1: days I don't know Jackson, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: getting pretty close to Yeah, he's eligible to play, but
Speaker 1: can he practice? You know? And that's a lot of
Speaker 1: work to you guys commin y'all because I'm not doing
Speaker 1: that type of work to find out. So that's too
Speaker 1: much work, man. So you either can play or you
Speaker 1: can't play. All I want to know is who lining
Speaker 1: up on that day. And this is what this COVID
Speaker 1: world has brought us is today I can't play two
Speaker 1: days from now. I am practicing two weeks, but today
Speaker 1: I can play, and I'm playing now. If you're an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and you're preparing for them, you may not
Speaker 1: have seen that's right yesterday who you're going to see.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, when training camps were starting
Speaker 1: and we were all trying to guess what was going
Speaker 1: to happen, it seemed to me that every team at
Speaker 1: some point would just deal with not having a guy
Speaker 1: available for a couple of weeks for COVID. And that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened obviously. Baltimore is an extreme case. Tenver ran
Speaker 1: into a little problem the other day and Now as
Speaker 1: we get later in the year and the weather is
Speaker 1: worse than the breaks going, there's more and more guys.
Speaker 1: But every team has not had players unavailable because of
Speaker 1: the virus, right, And so I think in that respect,
Speaker 1: the league maybe has exceeded some some expectations. I was
Speaker 1: one of the guys that from day one have always
Speaker 1: believed that put on your mask, if you you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit scarier than that, put on your gloves,
Speaker 1: and let's face this thing, because now by what's happening
Speaker 1: here the sports world, the real world, people are starting
Speaker 1: to move forward and figure this thing out. And as
Speaker 1: this thing go forward, it will get a little bit
Speaker 1: worse because of the weather change, but we would deal
Speaker 1: with it without panic. And as we see now, the
Speaker 1: world does not fall apart because the ravens lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and the world continue to move on. So now we
Speaker 1: can just relax. If he's there, Like I said, if
Speaker 1: he's there, he's there, you just have to deal with
Speaker 1: And so, uh would he be that same guy? He won't.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we don't know the effects. That's that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that scares me. We don't know the
Speaker 1: effect of how to each person. Each person's going to
Speaker 1: affect differently. So will he have a little breathing issue,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get his legs on him? Would
Speaker 1: he be you know, we saw it physically affect Cam
Speaker 1: Newton well affected. But another thing we don't know is
Speaker 1: when a guy is missing time because he's tested positive,
Speaker 1: right that he's missing time, that doesn't mean he is symptomatic.
Speaker 1: It could be someone, thank thank you. So the guy
Speaker 1: may be affected, he may not be affected. And um, actually,
Speaker 1: if r G three is the quarterback, then he's just
Speaker 1: going to run through the Cowboys defense. That doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter which one of them, don't. Right. The thing that's
Speaker 1: that's amazing here is we we finally have some similar,
Speaker 1: some order on Tomine on defense. Because I'm just a
Speaker 1: firm believer that we're gonna get a few of our
Speaker 1: guys back next year our offense. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying all of will be in place, but we will
Speaker 1: have enough guys on our offense next year to be effective,
Speaker 1: to be more than effective. Now, the problem is, well,
Speaker 1: these guys, the young guys, have enough knowledge and understanding
Speaker 1: on what the NFL game is about. Because I just
Speaker 1: believe and I know we probably need to be talking
Speaker 1: about the Raiders. But I believe that the NFL and
Speaker 1: all major sports will find a way to practice. What
Speaker 1: has been missing in all the major sports is practice
Speaker 1: except the NBA. Because they can. They can bubble with
Speaker 1: they got twelve players, fifteen players. They can bubble mostly
Speaker 1: more important, you know, easier than we can. You know.
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting question because I m I raised
Speaker 1: the question to somebody the other day, why not have
Speaker 1: every team bubble right now? The league can't do it.
Speaker 1: There's too many of them. As you're saying, why couldn't
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have already done that with their coaches, but
Speaker 1: the coaches are in a bubble? Yeah, why could you
Speaker 1: not have every two We're not talking about four months now,
Speaker 1: We're talking about one month bubble the rest of the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bubble every team New England, find a place in Rhode
Speaker 1: Island or wherever you want to go and bubble up Dallas.
Speaker 1: You've got that. The OMNI is right there, and that's
Speaker 1: where your coaches are, and that's where your players put
Speaker 1: themselves in training camp for a month to finish out
Speaker 1: the season. Bubble up. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys saw the interview yesterday a halftime with the commission Commissioner,
Speaker 1: and they basically asked him, have you considered a playoff bubble?
Speaker 1: And he said, no, We think our protocols if everybody
Speaker 1: follows the rules, but I do think we can do
Speaker 1: more to create isolation. To me, he was saying, in
Speaker 1: the teams that make the playoffs get in a bubble.
Speaker 1: Do what the Cowboys are doing right now with their coaches,
Speaker 1: because now you're only looking at so many teams. You're
Speaker 1: not looking at thirty two teams time seven. That's right,
Speaker 1: But I would respectfully say to the commissioner, um, be
Speaker 1: a responsible federal government and don't leave it to the states.
Speaker 1: Right right in the playoffs, you just tell everyone that
Speaker 1: they've that's what you need to do. Just do it.
Speaker 1: And I think he was hinting towards that that the playoff,
Speaker 1: if you get in the playoffs, you don't have to
Speaker 1: bring nate. How many teams? How many are in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: How many teams? I think sixteen right now? Sixteen they
Speaker 1: will bring in sixteen football players to one spot like
Speaker 1: the NBA did, is probably unrealistic. Sixteen teams you mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you said players, Yet sixteen football teams may but to
Speaker 1: tell each team to isolate what's up? Nate. See, see,
Speaker 1: this is where I have an issue with a power.
Speaker 1: There's three powers that I know. It's the NBA, it's
Speaker 1: the NFL, It's Major League Baseball. You pay a dude
Speaker 1: over twenty five million dollars a year, and he does
Speaker 1: not have the power to say, Brad, I'm sorry, bahla la?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the commissioner? Yes, bubble fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: You know if fifty let me not drool on myself,
Speaker 1: fifty million, I don't have a power to say, bubba la,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in the playoffs perteen. Come on. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing that that's the only thing that bothers me.
Speaker 1: And that's why I fought so hard. And I love
Speaker 1: the commissioner of the NBA. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I have a responsibility to the players, and I have
Speaker 1: responsibility to my sponsors, and they're one and the same.
Speaker 1: Bubble up. Don't you think if your team, if you
Speaker 1: were the Kansas City Chiefs, that you would just say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're hotels right there next to the ballpark, we're staying there.
Speaker 1: Just four weeks. See, right, that's what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 1: we're all on the same thing. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: what six weeks ago. We're talking about the last four
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, the most serious time of this
Speaker 1: of this COVID. You won't tell me that the Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence and those guys won't love you to death because
Speaker 1: of hate fellas. Let's make a run at this thing
Speaker 1: of the last four weeks. Tear your wives that, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a bad time of the year, seeing them,
Speaker 1: seeing them money. What if you're the owner of Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: you got an undefeated team, you know you're gonna tie.
Speaker 1: Try to tie history here, bubble up the Lions and
Speaker 1: the Jets can do whatever they want. Well, see the
Speaker 1: thing in Denver, right, the thing that is And thank
Speaker 1: thank god man, and I shouldn't say thank god because
Speaker 1: it may upset somebody, but thank god that I got
Speaker 1: two sensible men with him on the show today, because
Speaker 1: I just I've never understood my wife be like, baby,
Speaker 1: you don't understand, I said, what baby, he makes up
Speaker 1: with twenty five million fifty you're fifty and he can't
Speaker 1: tell his owners. For the last part of this season
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. This is what we're doing. Fellas,
Speaker 1: all right, don't go anywhere because this is a sensible
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Speaker 1: You think the boxing match will sell out on Saturday?
Speaker 1: Who's going at it? Who's going at Earl? Errol Spence Jr?
Speaker 1: Well Danny Garcon. When you say sold out? How many
Speaker 1: tickets are they making it? Yeah, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: mean it's not eighty thousand. Yeah, no, absolutely not for boxing.
Speaker 1: I think this might be a pay per view for me.
Speaker 1: I went the last couple of times he fought one
Speaker 1: here at the Ford Center and one at at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium. I think, right this is just me right now.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea to go to
Speaker 1: a restaurant. Yeah, let alone a big sporting event two
Speaker 1: or three more months where it's been a hellscape of
Speaker 1: an eight or nine months and it's and here we are,
Speaker 1: and we all made it to this point except the
Speaker 1: ones who didn't accept the ones And you said something
Speaker 1: before and eight that I wish more people would pay
Speaker 1: attention to because the presentation that we get is about
Speaker 1: you you live or you die. That's ninety nine percent survival. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct. Now, do We not all know people who
Speaker 1: have had it didn't die and have residual physical effects,
Speaker 1: and they don't yet know how much longer those effects
Speaker 1: will last. Thank you. It's this is not to be
Speaker 1: messed with. So I'm really not doing much more than this.
Speaker 1: You know, see my son, and I mean that's about
Speaker 1: it for you know, I would come this far. We
Speaker 1: can do it three more months. I remarked to some
Speaker 1: of the other day, I said, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing. I like where I live
Speaker 1: because I don't think I've eaten a meal anywhere else
Speaker 1: but home, lunch here, and at the stadium when I
Speaker 1: went to a Cowboys game in the press box. That's it.
Speaker 1: I haven't eaten anywhere since the end of March. Well.
Speaker 1: You know one thing I found out, man, and I'm
Speaker 1: truly happy now, is I know that I love my wife.
Speaker 1: There you go otherwise every day? Can I tell you
Speaker 1: something more important? Wow? You know that she loves you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because after all this time, if she didn't really love you,
Speaker 1: than you'd be out to be in the street. Brother,
Speaker 1: if you were that lucky. I'm telling you and so
Speaker 1: follow you guys and gals, that you didn't like you.
Speaker 1: Go back to work, go back to the office. So date,
Speaker 1: you said something about the game yesterday Baltimore Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 1: somebody asked me today, what did you learn? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: here's what I learned. No matter how badly you might
Speaker 1: struggle on offense, that doesn't mean you have to struggle
Speaker 1: on defense. Defense can keep you in a game, Yes
Speaker 1: you can. And unfortunately, what we've seen here is the
Speaker 1: defense has rarely given the Cowboys a chance to stay
Speaker 1: in games. I under stand, you know all the debate
Speaker 1: on fake punt, no fake punt, smart, dumb, desperate, but
Speaker 1: that didn't mean the next play you gotta give up
Speaker 1: a twenty three yard touchdown room. And so the defense
Speaker 1: can help this team out when they're struggling out an
Speaker 1: offensive line and they're not scoring a heck of a
Speaker 1: lot of points. This is a we were probably gonna
Speaker 1: set a thousand more times, you and me and everybody
Speaker 1: and you make we're gonna say a thousand more Time's
Speaker 1: strange year. The way this game was played was we
Speaker 1: were trying to match up with this team. When they
Speaker 1: went two tight ends, we're bringing out big people. When
Speaker 1: they went h three wives we're bringing out and it
Speaker 1: got so weird for coaches, so they went dime needs
Speaker 1: to forget it. We're gonna we're gonna stay without high
Speaker 1: bred package, and they went with it. And we have
Speaker 1: nobody that could tackle these guys. So you know what, Mick,
Speaker 1: I ain't giving up on this year by no means.
Speaker 1: But let's play this year out defensively and offensively. Let
Speaker 1: these young guys have opportunity, and the veterans that you
Speaker 1: know they're gonna keep, let them play. Just let them
Speaker 1: play shore the way to line up at ask everybody
Speaker 1: to do the best job they can. Let this year
Speaker 1: play out. Let's figure out a way to have a
Speaker 1: real training camp, a real offseason, and let's see where
Speaker 1: we fit now because this year here it's critical. It's
Speaker 1: critical for our head coach, our defensive, offensive coording is
Speaker 1: everybody can learn something about themselves and the players in
Speaker 1: front of them. And more importantly, just promise me we're
Speaker 1: not gonna get guys on this team that don't care.
Speaker 1: I see a lot that it ain't the defense, it
Speaker 1: ain't the coaches, it's the guys. You gotta get a
Speaker 1: few more guys that care. You know you touched on
Speaker 1: two things. One is a texted baby yesterday or the
Speaker 1: day before, And I said, you know, feel free to
Speaker 1: slap me for even saying this. What's the Cowboys record
Speaker 1: right now? Three eight? All three other teams, I will
Speaker 1: make this bold prediction, the other three teams in the
Speaker 1: division before the Cowboys take the field in Baltimore will
Speaker 1: also have their eighth loss. So you just can't say that,
Speaker 1: no matter how bad what we've been looking at has been,
Speaker 1: you can't say you don't have a chance because you're
Speaker 1: going to take the field probably even in losses with
Speaker 1: everybody else. So you got to win some games. Now.
Speaker 1: The next thing that you were talking about is um
Speaker 1: think back to training camp. You know you're talking about it.
Speaker 1: They're going a dime and they're doing this. This team's
Speaker 1: base defense is nickel, Yes it is. They have never
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't miss a practice. To me, I
Speaker 1: did not miss a practice like you like you in
Speaker 1: training camp, but there were never a practice with it
Speaker 1: was three linebackers on the Thank you. Now if the linebacker,
Speaker 1: if the linebackers you have don't play like all stars.
Speaker 1: Now you get what some of what we have been
Speaker 1: looking at and I mean, shoot me, when you're not
Speaker 1: running the ball that well and Sean Lee's healthy, can
Speaker 1: I have those three linebackers on the field. I'm not
Speaker 1: a coach. I don't know very much, but I know
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at is not very good, and so
Speaker 1: can we do something else? Now, what you said about
Speaker 1: guys who care so right, And one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I think they started playing better is additioned by subtraction
Speaker 1: with some of the personnel moves they back and you
Speaker 1: that you you took away some guys and you empowered
Speaker 1: people like Armstrong and Neville Gallimore and those and those guys.
Speaker 1: Now you have some more injuries. You lost Diggs, he's
Speaker 1: your best corner. Anthony Brown's probably your second best corner.
Speaker 1: He's probably not going to be able to play again
Speaker 1: this week. Well, okay, that's personnel. You just you have
Speaker 1: to do the best you can. But and they've tried.
Speaker 1: They've tried this. Two was it two games ago? They
Speaker 1: played five defensively. It was a road game. I know
Speaker 1: that they played five defensive linemen the whole game. And
Speaker 1: really Armstrong was more of a stand up linebacker. It
Speaker 1: was like the strong side guy. Yeah, except he was
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmage most of the time. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we all love offense. We all love the
Speaker 1: emphasis the organization has put on acquiring offensive players, making
Speaker 1: a premium of it for so many years. And I
Speaker 1: think what Nate said before is really important the offense
Speaker 1: next year, as far as I know, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: both tackles back. Yes, they're going to be. If you resign, Luna,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Beotish and Luna, you're gonna be stronger
Speaker 1: upfront than you've been. You now know that Jarwin and
Speaker 1: Schultz can be too effective tight ends. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have your quarterback back. I think your offense
Speaker 1: is fine. I should have invited you guys on the show.
Speaker 1: Everybody got tired of me saying that about two linebackers
Speaker 1: one linebacker. Can I have a real linebacker be that
Speaker 1: third guy instead of a defensive end standing up masquerading
Speaker 1: as a linebacker or your fourth safety. Yeah, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: And I don't understand. Say we see that, we you.
Speaker 1: You can still play defense in this league, and if
Speaker 1: you don't put some emphasis on it. What we have
Speaker 1: been watching for the last two or three months is
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get and which, by the way, Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs was out there doing some rehab on the field yesterday,
Speaker 1: so maybe he's not that far away. It might not
Speaker 1: have been a weight bearing bone he fractured in his foot.
Speaker 1: I would think it's going to be a short week
Speaker 1: after this game, right, maybe the final three games he
Speaker 1: could very well be back. Anthony Brown you mentioned was
Speaker 1: on the side. Yeah, he's still fighting that rib and
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't. He was not close to practicing, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was at least doing running and rehab. So
Speaker 1: I just now you're down to the same problem in
Speaker 1: the second I just think this coaching staff needs to
Speaker 1: really put emphasis on next week. These two games one
Speaker 1: at a time, but don't throw them away because you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: I've got two more division games coming. You gotta win
Speaker 1: every game because you're gonna I'm telling you're gonna wake
Speaker 1: up Tuesday morning and find the other teams in your
Speaker 1: division with the same number of losses. So Brad is
Speaker 1: not betting on the Giants winning at Seattle with with
Speaker 1: without Daniel Jones, right, He's not betting on Washington winning
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh. I am not and he's not betting on
Speaker 1: Philadelphia winning at Green Bay. I am not. If they win, wonder,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And you know what, for those teams, it
Speaker 1: gets worse because then the Giants have Arizona, Washington is
Speaker 1: at San Francisco, and Philly gets to play host to
Speaker 1: New Orleans. So how about this, how much time do
Speaker 1: you we can stretch in another minute? Or which of
Speaker 1: the if you're objective and you're not, we're not doing
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys show. Which of the four NFC East
Speaker 1: teams right now do you think is best position to
Speaker 1: win the division? I think the Washington risk is that
Speaker 1: was going to be my guest because of their defense.
Speaker 1: I think their defense, but do you think think about it,
Speaker 1: quarterback is more stable. That's why I think it's Washington.
Speaker 1: I think it's Washington because because of they've got an
Speaker 1: outstanding defense, but they've got the best quarterback situation right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking Andy Dalton. I think that what
Speaker 1: he's dealing with in the offensive line is somewhat problematic.
Speaker 1: And those guys they can play better. Maybe they can
Speaker 1: play better, and the and the game plan has to accommodate,
Speaker 1: you know, get the one thing you can get from
Speaker 1: watching Pittsburgh and Baltimore is if you can get the
Speaker 1: ball out fast, then you know you don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to deal so much with the pass rush. But I
Speaker 1: would say Washington right now is best position because I
Speaker 1: think Alex Smith and the way their offensive line is playing.
Speaker 1: They don't have the Cowboys receivers NA named the next
Speaker 1: well you will because you did play by play the
Speaker 1: next receiver after Terry McLaurin. Yeah, some guy named Sims.
Speaker 1: I think they have two guys named Sims. Two guys
Speaker 1: you can't tell them apart to take by choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so four and eight would be looking pretty good just
Speaker 1: telling you Tuesday night. You just they have to really
Speaker 1: concentrate on every game and they have to. They have
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to make Baltimore a winnable
Speaker 1: game because they could be. They could be four and eight,
Speaker 1: And right there the reason you can beat Baltimore. And
Speaker 1: I know it's simply said, put eight in the box
Speaker 1: and don't be scared. Don't don't be scared to pass
Speaker 1: that ain't there. Let him they passed as a camouflage
Speaker 1: at this time. Just stop the running game and let's
Speaker 1: see what they're throwing. I promise you they can't throw
Speaker 1: good enough to win. What's my number here? Thirty second
Speaker 1: and run defense one hundred and fifty six yards a game, Dallas. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll put eight in the balls out there. Give me
Speaker 1: three linebackers. Yeah yeah, I'm telling you, man running, you
Speaker 1: would not run the ball this team. They can't. I
Speaker 1: don't care if his RG three, I don't care if
Speaker 1: his Lamar. He's not progressed since he started from day
Speaker 1: one to now. I don't see the progression that's needed
Speaker 1: to be a next level quarter of what you do.
Speaker 1: But you have to. But you have to deal with
Speaker 1: the Baltimore defense yet. Oh now, you didn't say that,
Speaker 1: I just did. Maybe they can store more than one
Speaker 1: one touchdown. You gotta score at least three touchdowns gets
Speaker 1: them all right. You don't get this kind of information
Speaker 1: every day, just anywhere. I appreciate everybody joining for Mick Shot.
Speaker 1: Thank you for filling in day, Brad, Thanks for stopping.
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