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Speaker 2: This this one Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. Ah's

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Speaker 2: everybody doing.

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Speaker 1: We're here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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Speaker 1: and uh, kind of making the shift from basically what

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Speaker 2: Sunday night football.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: First things first, not happy to see the weather is

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Speaker 1: looking pretty crappy your Sunday night. It's yeah, bring the

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Speaker 1: rain gear. Apparently it's supposed to rain like almost the

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Speaker 1: entire week here in.

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Speaker 2: Western New York. It's raining now, it is raining now.

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Speaker 2: We're supposed to get one to two inches of rain today.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot, Thank goodness, it's now.

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Speaker 1: That's like twenty inches of snow at least, because what

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Speaker 1: do they say? It's one inch of rain is ten

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Speaker 4: I seem to know. I don't know why that's second

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Speaker 4: a little to me. I thought, Oh it's too small.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's an inch for a foot. Is

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Speaker 2: that what it is? I thought it was ten inches

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Speaker 4: Why am I asking Google the hell out of that,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: You figure that out.

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Speaker 4: Talk amongst yourself, you.

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Speaker 2: Figure that out.

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Speaker 1: Why I while I discuss the rest of this here,

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Speaker 1: some of the comments that head coach Sean mcdermoy made

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 4: One of rain, thirteen inches of snow.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen inches of snow.

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Speaker 4: Now there's a bit price. You can vary from two

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. The range is what.

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Speaker 4: It's It says thirteen inches of snow equals one inch

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Speaker 4: of rain in the US, although it differs. This ratio

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Speaker 4: So you so, in the US, that is a wide

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Speaker 1: I would not have guessed where you live would make

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Speaker 1: Now, that's something that I just learned today. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Steve for providing that information. We are a full service show.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to the Bill's injury news, there are

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Speaker 1: two players on the list in addition to the ones

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Speaker 1: Jones and Matt Mlano had two pretty serious injuries. Neither

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Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott said they have to find out more

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Speaker 1: We know they're out indefinitely. Both will need surgery for

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Speaker 1: I was looking up an advanced metrics steve for pass

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Speaker 1: You're looking at me saying, you know, look, half the

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Speaker 4: They put those things out there a lot. You're getting

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Speaker 2: Like Computer Cowboy and some other guys.

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Speaker 4: They're all doing their own analytics, and it's you're right,

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Speaker 4: day Kwon's way up there.

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Speaker 2: So it's a shame.

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Speaker 1: I really think they are going to be fine at

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Speaker 1: The reason why is you've had poona Ford inactive the

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Speaker 2: But it was just those.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only two guys I saw on there

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Speaker 1: Milano's out, and definitely it's never easy to replace an

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Speaker 1: we have on IR right now, who might be ready to.

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Speaker 2: Return, Who Baylen Spector.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Who's good on special teams?

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Speaker 4: That's right, you know what I mean? Guy depth there,

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Speaker 4: and he's got knowledge about the the the defense as well.

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Speaker 4: He's got some experience in it.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's a perfect candidate, SHO.

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Speaker 1: So he went on IR at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: He's working his tail off here trying to get himself back.

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Speaker 1: The timing couldn't be better. You know, I understand fans

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Speaker 2: I want that guy. I want that guy. This team

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the way it is for most teams

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Speaker 4: They don't know they know what you're talking about, whether

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Speaker 1: The other good news on the injury front is the

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Speaker 4: And it's at this time of year and we you

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Speaker 4: they don't know what they They still don't know who's

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Speaker 2: The other thing is.

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Speaker 1: For the second straight week, the Bills fortified their ranks

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Speaker 1: at the cornerback position with a practice squad signing. Last week,

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Speaker 1: they signed free agent cornerback Herb Miller to their practice squad.

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Speaker 1: This week, they signed veteran Josh Norman to their practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Age thirty five played two games for the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: last season. Obviously, he played here in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I believe he.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 1: They got this guy as veteran insurance. We've seen them

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Speaker 1: He's here to help veteran insurance. If he is in

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna He's here to help him prepare, not play.

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Speaker 4: That's why he's here. He'll he'll acclimate in, he'll be

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Speaker 4: you know, guys will know him. He's he'll fold in.

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Speaker 4: He's a culture fit, all of that stuff. He's just

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Speaker 4: here to help him prepare. They Herb Miller will go

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Speaker 4: You gotta have bodies to play. You gotta have guys

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Speaker 4: He'll help those guys get ready to play and have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're gonna have presumably, I mean, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: But we know Milano is not going to be healthy

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Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Those are some decisions that the coaching staff and the

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Speaker 2: Four or five days. So we'll have to keep our

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Speaker 1: You know, I know fans out there talking about, ah,

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Speaker 1: we should acquire this guy or pump the brakes. Let's

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Speaker 1: just see how this roster does. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: dire straits yet, it's not good. You lost two All

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Speaker 2: That sucks. I mean, don't get me wrong, that's awful.

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Speaker 1: But you sign guys, proven veteran players to have in reserve.

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Speaker 1: Now they are being called upon. Let's just see how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean put forward.

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Speaker 1: I mean that guy would be starting on twelve fourteen

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's a good player, really good player. And we

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Speaker 4: saw him. He played very well in the preseason and

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Speaker 4: He had But these guys are playing, the guys are

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Speaker 4: gonna do? But you talk about that, they've got four

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Speaker 4: they've got a defensive end. They've got Cameron Kleine, They've

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Speaker 4: They got four corners. Herb Miller, Josh Norman that we've

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Speaker 4: Brown as well, and interestingly enough, all those guys, with

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Speaker 4: the exception of Josh Norman, they're all six to two.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's kind of they've got some traits.

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Speaker 2: I think they want to type.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they do, right, So I think they've

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Speaker 4: But you know that that game last week was I mean,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan hobbled off, Leonard Floyd hobbled off. I mean this

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Speaker 4: he's he was limping around after the game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was bad. I mean it's really bad. And that's

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Speaker 4: unfortunately we all know. I mean that that's the one

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Speaker 4: It's a roll of the dice, a roll of the dice.

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Speaker 4: And we were talking today, we're looking around the league.

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Speaker 1: James Connor, the running back for Arizona, out indefinitely. The

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Speaker 4: That guy is a good player.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's arguably their best offensive linement on

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's unfortunately. It's that time of year where

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we've got you. We'll see, yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But that's where we're at, and it's which is why

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Speaker 1: That's right topic of discussion today. In case you were

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Speaker 1: wondering what is the best way for the Bills to

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Speaker 1: See how they look in practice, it's more importantly, see

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Speaker 1: you might find you don't need to do anything right.

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Speaker 2: It might be all right or better than you anticipate it.

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Speaker 4: Right, and you go, you look around the league, and

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Speaker 4: you know that there are some teams that are in

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Speaker 2: Them, right, that could be the other side of it.

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Speaker 1: But you let us know at aight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: Uh, we'll we'll, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Zip around the league if we have some time. You know,

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Speaker 1: But we want to get to the phones because we've

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Speaker 1: you though, if you want to jump on board. We

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Speaker 1: lead off today with Mark in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Mark?

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Speaker 6: Well, good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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Speaker 6: I'm on line with you guys. And they they've drafted

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Speaker 6: Saint Brown really took him to the cleaners in that game.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like what they have. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from what I understand, you know, he clears protocol

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Speaker 2: My guess is this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this, but this is my guess because

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Speaker 2: They come into.

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Speaker 2: I remember Carlos Williams when he was here with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: He had a big game, took some monster shots in

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Speaker 4: What happened to Tua last year in the Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 4: the league is doing better. And I think it's in

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Speaker 4: the culture they have here. I'm pretty sure guys are

441
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Speaker 4: pretty are encouraged to report that stuff. You know, it

442
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Speaker 4: used to be you know, say nothing, do nothing. You know,

443
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Speaker 4: if you had if it was bothering, you just gut

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Speaker 4: it out until the week and hope you were better

445
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Speaker 4: by the weekend and I'm going to go ahead and practice.

446
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Speaker 4: Now they don't do that, and it's obviously better.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get back to the phones and to Joe

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Speaker 1: in Williamsville.

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Speaker 2: Next we got for us.

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Speaker 3: Joe, Hey, Christ and Steve. Thanks for taking my call. Sure, Steve.

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Speaker 3: First of all, do players that are on IR do

452
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Speaker 3: they still count toward the cap?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they do. Once the season has started.

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Speaker 1: Any player on the fifty three man roster IR list,

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Speaker 1: even the practice squad, counts against the center.

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Speaker 4: Top fifty one.

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Speaker 2: It's your top fifty one salaries.

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Speaker 1: So if Matt Malone's presumably one of your top fifty one,

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Speaker 1: he would count on the cap.

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Speaker 3: That's sort of a double whammy, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well a little bit, the team insurance picks up his

462
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Speaker 1: eight about I think it's about eighty percent of his salary,

463
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Speaker 1: so the team literally in terms of dollars, doesn't incur

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Speaker 1: the cost, but the cap remains the same.

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Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Okay. The other thing, as far as the best way

467
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Speaker 3: for the Bills to adjust to following the rash of injuries,

468
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Speaker 3: I agree with you Chris that we should wait and

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Speaker 3: see how things pan out the next two games. I mean,

470
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Speaker 3: the Giants in New England they're not they don't appear

471
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Speaker 3: to be that strong, and this will give us a

472
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Speaker 3: good measuring stick as to you know, how the defense

473
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Speaker 3: is going to perform before we go ahead and make

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Speaker 3: any drastic, drastic moves. And then the one thing that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to mention is Tyler Bass So when I

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Speaker 3: get kudos to him because when they kick that on

477
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Speaker 3: side kick, I thought, well, this is a shot in

478
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Speaker 3: the dark. There's no way that the Bills are going

479
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Speaker 3: to have a chance to recover it. The way he

480
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Speaker 3: kicked that ball, That ball bounced up in the air

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Speaker 3: and we had a stab at it. I mean we

482
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Speaker 3: recovered that ball. I mean he's a great field goal

483
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Speaker 3: kicker in that, but I mean that was just a

484
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Speaker 3: great on side kick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, think Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a textbook on side kick. I mean,

489
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Speaker 1: Steve can speak to it better than I can for

490
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Speaker 1: obvious reasons. But you know, it got the hop that

491
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Speaker 1: you want right when you want it, like to jump

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Speaker 1: over that line of the hands.

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Speaker 2: Team. Yeah, they just couldn't get to the ball fastest.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a roll of the dice. You don't know

495
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Speaker 4: even the guys covering the kick. You practice it some

496
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Speaker 4: and sometimes it goes good and sometimes it doesn't, and

497
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Speaker 4: it's just you know, you can imagine it's a you're

498
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Speaker 4: talking fractures of an inch where the thing bounces the

499
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Speaker 4: right way for you and the timing's got to be right.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a real crapshoot to try and recover an

501
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Speaker 4: on side kick, and the advantage is totally on the

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Speaker 4: receiving end of it, you know, for the team that's receiving,

503
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Speaker 4: so all they could you could jump up and bat

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Speaker 4: it clear out of bounds and it's their ball still,

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Speaker 4: so yess. You know, at that point, there's been about

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Speaker 4: a million things leading up to an onside kick that

507
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Speaker 4: you can win the game, that would have won the

508
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Speaker 4: game for you instead of this on side kick, and

509
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Speaker 4: this is the one that has the least chance of working.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the situation in with it, and you kind

511
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Speaker 4: of got to live with it. But sometimes, I mean,

512
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Speaker 4: it's been a long time since I've seen somebody get

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Speaker 4: an on side kick and it led to the winning score. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 4: but that's the idea, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because it's only like a fIF fifteen percent chance of

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Speaker 2: getting it is something like that.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot higher than ten percent when it's a

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Speaker 4: surprise on side during the game, like in in the

519
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Speaker 4: third quarter or the second quarter at half kick off

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Speaker 4: a second half, right, that's you know, you get a

521
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Speaker 4: much higher chance of getting it then because usually you've

522
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Speaker 4: scouted it, you got a week, they've got a vulnerability

523
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Speaker 4: that you've seen that they've consistently done. You take advantage

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Speaker 4: of it when they're not expecting anything other than a

525
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Speaker 4: regular kick. That's that changes it. But a staged on side.

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Speaker 2: Kick really hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe did mention, and I mentioned it in the

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Speaker 1: top of the show here. I'm inclined to kind of

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Speaker 1: stand pat see what you have. You know. I know

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Speaker 1: people weren't thrilled with Kyrie Elam's performance last week, but

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Speaker 1: if Benford is still not fit enough to play corner,

532
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Speaker 1: I would put him out there again. The only reason

533
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Speaker 1: I say that is he gets thrust into the starting

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Speaker 1: lineup last week. And I'm not trying to be a

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Speaker 1: Kyrielam apologist, but I think when you go from your

536
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Speaker 1: last live action is week three of the preseason to

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Speaker 1: week five of the regular season, you're talking six weeks since.

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Speaker 2: You've played live Bullets football. I think that's a tough

539
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Speaker 2: adjustment to just jump in and play well.

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Speaker 1: I would like to think with another week of practice

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Speaker 1: after playing last week, he would be better this week.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: If Benford's fine, start him fine, you know I get it.

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Speaker 2: But if not, I would put Elim out there again.

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Speaker 4: I really would brought One thing is and you've we've

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Speaker 4: talked about this off off the air. Where do you

547
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Speaker 4: think kyri Elam's his skill They had him playing off

548
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Speaker 4: coverage and man stuff and his skill set is to

549
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Speaker 4: play up and bump. The problem is usual, well, one

550
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Speaker 4: hundred percent of the time, you're not playing on an

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Speaker 4: island out there. I mean, you're you got safety over

552
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Speaker 4: the tie, you got safety help over the top. And

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Speaker 4: you say, well do don't give him? Say well, you

554
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Speaker 4: don't want to leave him on an island with Calvin Ridley.

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00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: You got to give the guy some help. The problem

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Speaker 4: is you've got to have five other guys in the

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Speaker 4: secondary that are playing the same coverage as he is.

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Speaker 4: So you can't just say, Kyer do your thing and

559
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: the rest of us are going to do this, because

560
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Speaker 4: what will happen is they'll flood the zone that Kyer

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Speaker 4: vacates when he's playing man to man and all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden there's nobody over there. Yeah, because you're all

563
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Speaker 4: playing this other coverage. You've got to have in this case,

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Speaker 4: five guys in the secondary, three corners, two safeties, plus

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Speaker 4: the linebackers who can all do the same thing. And

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Speaker 4: it's and you fear all these for kyr Apologists for

567
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Speaker 4: him to come in and say, let's let him play

568
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Speaker 4: his game. Well, no, you got to play the game

569
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Speaker 4: that all the other five guys are playing as well.

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Speaker 4: That's why it works. Now you can say, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: just go zero cover and man up everybody. Well you know,

572
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: not everybody's up to that. You know, you gotta have,

573
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: you gotta Then then you gotta have three guys that

574
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Speaker 4: win Manda Man, or four guys that win Manda Man,

575
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Speaker 4: or five guys that win Manda Man with somebody with

576
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: five eligible receivers on the offense. They all gotta win then.

577
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: So you can't and you can't play the same coverage

578
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Speaker 4: all the time. So you've got to have guys that

579
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: can play a variety of skill sets. And if you don't,

580
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: it limits your options as a defensive coordinator, and that's

581
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Speaker 4: when you start to become vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but more of

583
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Speaker 1: your phone calls when we come back we're asking you

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Speaker 1: how would you adjust following the rash of injuries with

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Here you let us know At eight oh

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Speaker 1: three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

587
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Speaker 1: five fifty, Steven Amherst leads us off. When we come

588
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Speaker 1: back here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: We're gearing up for the Huddle for Hunger Food drive

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, October seventeenth here at Highmark Stadium from four

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Speaker 1: to seven pm. Fans and schools from the area are

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Speaker 1: encouraged to organize their own Huddle for Hunger collection and

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Speaker 1: bring their items to the stadium. Bill's players Latavius Murray,

595
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, and all the rookies expected to be in attendance.

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Speaker 1: The top three schools who donate will be recognized at

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Speaker 1: the October twenty sixth game against the Bucks and receive

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Speaker 1: a tour tailgate party plus tickets to the game. Hey, now,

599
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: so maybe get your collection going at your own school

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00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: and then you bring in the most items or finish

601
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Speaker 1: in the top three, you're in business. So be on

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Speaker 1: the lookout for that or maybe get started now. October

603
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: seventeenth is coming up fast. It's a week away, so

604
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Speaker 1: get rolling if you want to get that organized at

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Speaker 1: your school for a chance to win tickets and get

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Speaker 1: recognized at the Bills Bucks game, which is Thursday night

607
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: game if I remember right. But let's get back to

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Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three five point fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty the number to

610
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Speaker 1: get on board as we are asking you what is

611
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Speaker 1: the best way for the Bills to adjust following the

612
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Speaker 1: rash of injuries. Maybe you don't think they need to

613
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Speaker 1: do anything, but if you think you'd like to see

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Speaker 1: them try to fortify the roster in some way or

615
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Speaker 1: maybe change their approach offensively, defensively, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You let us know at eight oh three oh five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Back to the phones, and has promised to Steve and

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Speaker 1: Amherst to lead us off this segment.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for Steve?

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Speaker 7: Steve, you pretty much answered my question with Kayer Elim,

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Speaker 7: but I was wondering still if it would be possible

622
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Speaker 7: if you still did Elim one on one and then

623
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Speaker 7: run your regular zones and try to cheat somebody who's

624
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Speaker 7: a good cover man like Terrell Bernard at a little

625
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: deeper in to help him out. I don't know if

626
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 7: that hurts us bad. My second question real quick and

627
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 7: I'll hang up, is can we stretch King K deeper

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Speaker 7: down the field? Thank you much?

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Steve, appreciate the call. I'll let Steve handle

630
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the question you asked him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can combo coverage a lot of You can

632
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: do a lot of things, and I would trust Sean

633
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: McDermott to know. But my point was a minute ago

634
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Speaker 4: that if you if you put Kyrie Elam and you

635
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: let him play the way he wants to play, or

636
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: the way his skill set best wants him to play,

637
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: the other guys in the secondary have to kind of

638
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: play that way too. They have to do it. And

639
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: if you're gonna tilt the whole field and say, listen,

640
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: no matter what happens, we're gonna let Kye do his

641
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: thing and we're gonna play around him and his skill set, well,

642
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: you're asking an entire defense, you know, to cover up

643
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: for the guy, when you could probably do it easier

644
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 4: just calling a different coverage.

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00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Kyer played within the framework of the defense last year.

646
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: It's not like he hasn't done it before. I just

647
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: think he needs more snaps.

648
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say some more snaps.

649
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Speaker 2: If you're not playing for six weeks.

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Speaker 8: And.

651
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm and it might and it might be a moot.

652
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Point anyway, because if Benford's healthy to play, we know

653
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna start, So I mean either way, yeah, you

654
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I just.

655
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Speaker 4: I don't think Kyer Elam was the reason the Bill's

656
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Speaker 4: lost last week. And certainly he could have played better,

657
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Speaker 4: and he gave up some throws, some catches. I mean,

658
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: he's like eight targets and six catches that kind of

659
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll never know how many targets would

660
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: have been there if i Elam didn't have the guy

661
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: covered up either, they might have gone twelve targets. And

662
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: he scared him off of six throws too. You never

663
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: get credit for that. It's yeah, it's a tough question

664
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: because you're down ostensibly, and no matter how good Kyer

665
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: Elam turns out to be. Right now, he was the

666
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: third outside, fourth outside corner fourth, yep, and he was inactive,

667
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: and he was inactive for those weeks. It was it

668
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: was tra Davious, it was Christian Benford, and then it

669
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: was Dan Jackson and then you got Kye in. So

670
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what you know, if it was somebody,

671
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for his draft status, nobody would even

672
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: be looking sideways at him. So and he's got some ability,

673
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: but there are other guys in that room with abilities.

674
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: There's a ton of guys in the league with ability.

675
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: You got to play well. I don't think they could

676
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: be totally dismissive or unhappy with the way Kyer filled in.

677
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they are. I think they they would

678
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: put him in again in a heartbeat and expect him

679
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: to play better. I think he's We've seen him BROWNI

680
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: and I have seen him working hard to get better.

681
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: He's he's grinding it, wants to get on the field.

682
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: He knows what he knows. You know what the score

683
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: is and why he's not in there. They've been brutally

684
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: honest with him. He knows better than we do.

685
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: And he said all the right things after the game

686
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday when he didn't play his best, right, he said,

687
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: I still think God has a plan for me to

688
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: help for me to help this team win football games.

689
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: That's right, and so I you know I'm not I

690
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. I think this team still wins

691
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: games with these guys in the back end, So I'm

692
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: h how they play him, what they play him. I

693
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: could never begin to tell you what coverages are best

694
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: for him, or where he plays best, or what his

695
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: skill set is as akin to all the other guys

696
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: that are in the room as well. I'm not even

697
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: gonna get into that. But I know this, you got

698
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 4: a game against the Giants coming up, and you're gonna

699
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: need him to play and play well at times at least. So,

700
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: like we said, at this point of the week, we

701
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: didn't even know who's going to be available, right he

702
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: may be cornerback one by the end of the week,

703
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: you don't know. So until that sorts itself out, this

704
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: is all kind of a moot.

705
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Point back to the phones at eight oh three zero

706
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

707
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: five fifty got open lines for you there to Joe

708
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: in Olian next.

709
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: What do you got first, Joe?

710
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just wondering how you Ice fell about

711
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 5: bringing in in like maybe Landry or to Julio Jones

712
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 5: to help Digs out with Gabe Davis's struggles.

713
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Don't I don't know that Gabe Davis has struggled that

714
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: seems a little strong for me. I mean, six catches

715
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: for one hundred yards last week in a losing effort, granted,

716
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: but he's had touchdowns in each of his last four games.

717
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: He's producing on a weekly basis.

718
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: He had two touchdowns in a row this last week,

719
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: one of which got called back by a penalty. We

720
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: never got to.

721
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: See a penalty that you didn't see it because it

722
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: didn't happen.

723
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the offensive he didn't see it. Come on. So yeah,

724
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, I'm not down on Gabe at all.

725
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: No, neither am I if anything, and coach Rick Dermott

726
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: and coach Dorsey addressed this yesterday when they talked to

727
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: the media.

728
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: They agreed that they would like.

729
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: To incorporate more people in the passing game in a

730
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: more productive way on a weekly basis. Now, that's easier

731
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: said than done, because ultimately, the quarterback has to go

732
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: where the coverage dictates. He should go with the football

733
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: to make the play gain yards, stay on the field,

734
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and stay in favorable down in distance. Sure, there are

735
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: ways you can scheme things up to maybe dictate to

736
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: a defense at times, but there are a healthy number

737
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: of times where the defense is going to tell you

738
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: where to put the football, and it might be to

739
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: the guy that's winning the most and to this point

740
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: that's been Digs, right, and there are a lot worse

741
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: people you could go to than Digs.

742
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

743
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: Sure, And I'll say this too. Up until this last games,

744
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: this Jacksonville game, I'm looking around and you and I

745
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: have I don't know that I'm totally putting this on

746
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: like these guys, this offense totally and all of a

747
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: sudden forgot how to play offense. Defensive well, I mean,

748
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: you know, the defense went through the injuries and stuff,

749
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: they still held into twenty five points, gave up the

750
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: one explosive play at the end of the game when

751
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 4: they were kind of gambling. I get that they played

752
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: a great game defensively, a game you should have won

753
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball. But on offense,

754
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: I don't think these guys forgot how to play or

755
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: all of a sudden were exposed as fraud odds by

756
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think there's a lot of reasons

757
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: for for why they played poorly. You can say which

758
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 4: want jet lag whatever, good game plan or quick pressure

759
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: by Jacksonville, whatever it was. I don't think this team

760
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: all of a sudden became a bad offensive unit, and

761
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 4: coming into the game, there was no reason to think

762
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: they needed to go down to their plan C, D,

763
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: and E, you know, because playing A, B and C

764
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: were stymied or A and B were stymy. You know.

765
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 4: So we had talked about how's this team gonna find

766
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: different ways to win? They couldn't. They didn't do that

767
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: this last week. And now I think that's as disconcerting

768
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: as anything, the fact that the Bills couldn't find a

769
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: way to win a game where you got to feel

770
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: like they they were the better team on a game

771
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: when they where they didn't play their best for whatever reason.

772
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: They were jet lagged, they were the surface was bad,

773
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: that guys that they were counting on to play, key

774
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: players gone, All of that stuff goes into the mix. Yeah, okay,

775
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 4: all of that, but you gotta find way to win that.

776
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: And let's face it, like so many of the losses

777
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: they've had, and really virtually all regular season losses they've had,

778
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 4: they're like one play away. Oh, you need one guy

779
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: to make a play. You need somebody to turn it

780
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: up the field and get the first down. You need

781
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: somebody to catch the third down passes to drop it,

782
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: you need somebody to make the block, make a cut,

783
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: make a guy miss, and they couldn't do it. That's

784
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 4: the disconcerting part about the whole thing, because you had

785
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: all these guys with some opportunity to contribute, and so

786
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: many of them, from Khalil Shakir to Kincaid to Gave Davis,

787
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 4: you know, so many of them are like wow, Dawson,

788
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: everybody was like ah, James Cook, oh, you know, all

789
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: of them had a hand at some point in that

790
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: game where they dropped a pass or couldn't make a

791
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: guy miss, all of them. So that's the disconcerting part

792
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: of it. They had some answers and the guys just

793
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 4: failed to just failed to write down the answer.

794
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: That's why ninety eight percent of the time when a

795
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: team does not perform up to snuff, it's usually nine

796
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: I would say almost ninety and I don't have hard

797
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: stats to prove this, but it feels like the vast

798
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: majority of the time it's.

799
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: An execution issue.

800
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: And to a great degree, it was an execution issue

801
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Let's go back to the phones and to

802
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Steve and Tonawanda.

803
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: What's up, Steve.

804
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 7: Hey, Brownie tasker, how you guys.

805
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Doing doing all right? What do you got for us?

806
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 7: Uh? Just real quick? Everybody's yeah, it's concerning a little

807
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 7: bit about the defense. But look, I mean we went

808
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: in shorthanded two backup cornerbacks. Then we lose our two.

809
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 7: I mean, we lose Milano, then Jones and the defense

810
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 7: played stellar. I mean, what do we old Jacksonville to

811
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 7: eleven points.

812
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: Minutes late halfway through the fourth? Yeah?

813
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 7: So, And I mean the lack of offense is going

814
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 7: to happen. We talked, you guys talked about last week.

815
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 7: Can they sustained what they'd been doing on offense? You

816
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 7: want them to, but no, they're not coming. I mean

817
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 7: it's just fast as you played back in the day

818
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: when you guys had the best offense going right, And

819
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 7: what did you guys your best record might have been

820
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 7: through thirteen and three, twelve and four. Most of the

821
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 7: time you're gonna lose games. You're not gonna We're not

822
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 7: gonna play perfect. Osyrus didn't have his best game as

823
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 7: a pro. He's a rookie's been playing stellar. The whole

824
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: offensive line is a group I don't think played bad,

825
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 7: but they just had blown assignments and got them out

826
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 7: of the running game. And the three and outs on

827
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 7: top of the penalties putting them down first at fifteen.

828
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 7: The three and outs killed them because they were shorthanded

829
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 7: on de as. It was them. Guys just got exhausted.

830
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 7: You could see it in the third quarter. I mean,

831
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 7: Eatn just the couple he busted off. They didn't have

832
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 7: nothing left in the tank. I think if the offense goes,

833
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 7: they're gonna come out this week and I think they're

834
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 7: gonna be able to the ball gets the giants, So

835
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: think they're gonna get back and form. You sustain a

836
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 7: bunch of drives, eat up some time, give your dcuts

837
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 7: a rest, and that decise is gonna look better. You're

838
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 7: gonna have a pass rush that is gonna help cover

839
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 7: up the little quirks that we got going on a

840
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 7: quarterback right now. I think I'll hang up and listen.

841
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks appreciate that. Sorry if I cut you

842
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: off there, I didn't know if you had one more

843
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: thing to say.

844
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's just see how it plays out here

845
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: this week and next week with the guys you got.

846
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: As Steve always says, this offense has plenty under the hood.

847
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: They just have to execute at a higher level. And

848
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 1: for three weeks they were executing at an extraordinary level,

849
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: and they kind of came back to the mean last week,

850
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: where you know, they were just out of sync on

851
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: some things, missed on a couple opportunities, didn't complete the

852
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: play on some others, and those things add up, and

853
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: you played a Jacksonville team that probably played one of

854
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: their more sounder had one of their more sounder performances

855
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: of the season after stinking it up in Week three

856
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: against the Texans and having a lackluster performance against the Chiefs,

857
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: managing only nine points. So every team has those weeks.

858
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: You'd prefer they don't surface, but in this case it did. Now,

859
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: what are they going to do about it in response?

860
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: The following week?

861
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: And even though they're down a couple of pretty important players,

862
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Let's see what shakes out for us before you make

863
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: knee jerk reactions trying to address the roster or your

864
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: play calling or your scheme or anything like that.

865
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know, give the give Jacksonville some credit,

866
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: no question. It's just yeah, we see it every time

867
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: the Bills suffer a loss, which you know hasn't been

868
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: that often in the regular season in these his last

869
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: five or six years, and this is a team that

870
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: not only gets the playoffs, but wins a playoff game

871
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: every year as well. They just can't get that one,

872
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 4: that next step or the next step right, couple of

873
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: steps when you and that's in it's games like this.

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Speaker 4: I think that kind of can compare, can prepare you

875
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Speaker 4: to be better in tough moments, you know, these last

876
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Speaker 4: three weeks. I mean they rolled their helmets out there

877
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Speaker 4: and just walked off with it. I mean against all

878
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Speaker 4: three of those. Yeah, the Raiders, the Commanders, and the Dolphins.

879
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: And the Dolphins for crying out loud. So yeah, there's

880
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: no reason to think this team had any business putting

881
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Speaker 4: out putting a game together like that, particularly offensively.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here, DJ and Lockport will lead

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Speaker 4: Who? What? Where'd you call me?

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Speaker 1: Let's get back, Let's get back to the phones at

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Speaker 1: eight O three oh five point fifty and to DJ

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Speaker 1: in Lockport, what's up DJ?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 9: So, first off, the biggest thing I'd take away from

901
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 9: the season so far is that I don't want to

902
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 9: just say the Jets game might be the one outlier,

903
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 9: but it takes a lot to the team to just

904
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 9: lose by five points a lot, and it takes a

905
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 9: good team in order to take advantage of the things

906
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 9: that do go wrong for them to pull off the game.

907
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 9: I feel like this team's good enough to where if

908
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 9: we play a low leader squad, you know, the fifty

909
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 9: two hours prior to game pickoff and losing Milano, and

910
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 9: I think we still win by you know, eighteen points

911
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 9: to a low leader team. But Jacksonville, they got a

912
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Speaker 9: team over there, they know what they're doing. They got

913
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 9: a hell of the coach now, So I don't I

914
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 9: don't really like, I'm not going through mcgoom with this loss. Again,

915
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 9: it takes a lot to beat this team by five points.

916
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 9: But again, I hate to be that guy, but this

917
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 9: game we've seen.

918
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Speaker 10: A lot of times.

919
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 9: You know, a lot of teams have seen it as well.

920
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 9: But there was seven different discretionary flags that were thrown

921
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Speaker 9: at third downs for the Bills, six four Jacksonville on

922
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Speaker 9: the Bills third down that extended in completed drives in

923
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Speaker 9: with halt drives, and a lot of them you didn't

924
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 9: even see the camera angles because they didn't show replays

925
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 9: up then. But like, I'm not saying this compiracy. I'm

926
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Speaker 9: just saying there was a crab officiating game on top

927
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Speaker 9: of it. I feel like if it was will have

928
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Speaker 9: more equal, It might have even been a closer and we

929
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Speaker 9: might have been kicking still goal at the end to

930
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Speaker 9: win the game. But just a lot. It takes a

931
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Speaker 9: lot of the team to lose by five points against

932
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Speaker 9: another good squad. So we are going to make this up.

933
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Speaker 9: Things will be better, Like it's no doom and gloom.

934
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Speaker 9: So I still see us lose you know, three or

935
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Speaker 9: four games this year, and this is gonna be one

936
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Speaker 9: of them, unfortunately. So I'll hang up and listen. Go Bills,

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Speaker 9: and you guys have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah thing, you're yeah, DJ you're far too coherent and

939
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Speaker 4: lucid to be calling in our radio. So here I'm

940
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Speaker 4: with you're overqualified. Yeah, I'm totally with You're right. It

941
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Speaker 4: took an outstanding effort by Jacksonville, uh, and a lot

942
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Speaker 4: of all the stuff that you mentioned, uh, discretionary flags, penalties,

943
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Speaker 4: UH turn you know, all that stuff, uh for the

944
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Speaker 4: Bills to lose by five points to a really good

945
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Speaker 4: to a playoff team from a year ago, uh, team

946
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Speaker 4: that won a playoff game a year ago. It's the

947
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Speaker 4: Bills are still a tough out even when they were

948
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Speaker 4: hampered by it, you know, right after the injuries happened,

949
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Speaker 4: when they got these guys just thrown into the lineup

950
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Speaker 4: where they didn't even have a week to take all

951
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: the reps, none of that. They just got thrown in there.

952
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: Here we go, and they still held them to going

953
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Speaker 4: into the second half of the fourth quarter. They held

954
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Speaker 4: them to eleven points, and the offense just you know,

955
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Speaker 4: we're just missing you know, drop passes and penalties and

956
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: a couple of the penalties I'm telling you were phantom penalties,

957
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, that conspired as well. So you're right, DJ

958
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 4: Bills are the with the exception of the injured players.

959
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: Of course, the Bills are still the same team they

960
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: were when they hung forty eight on the Dolphins. But

961
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Speaker 4: they played, they did not play well, but they that's

962
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: still in there. It's not like they forgot how It's

963
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: not like they aren't trying. It's not like whatever events

964
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: led to them playing as poorly as they did are

965
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: going to be different this week. Now they that doesn't

966
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: mean they're going to be better or whatever, but it's

967
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: going to be different. They're going to be in their

968
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Speaker 4: own building, in their own beds for the entire week.

969
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: It's a home game, it's a night game, it's at

970
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Speaker 4: the finger quotes normal time primetime game instead of a

971
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Speaker 4: two thirty local time in London and a nine to

972
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Speaker 4: thirty local time on the East Coast. All of that stuff.

973
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: All this's going to be different this week. So you

974
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: haven't expected your expectations should be different. Hopefully they'll play

975
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: more like who the team they've shown they've been over

976
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Speaker 4: most of the last month. But we'll see.

977
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to take a break here because when

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Speaker 1: we come back our number two, we'll begin with our

979
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: weekly visit from ESPN analyst and former NFL QB Dan Orlovsky.

980
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: He'll lay out what he saw in Sunday's game against

981
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: the Jags and prep us a bit for the Giants

982
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: who are struggling on both sides of the ball. He'll

983
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: give us answers as to why when we return here

984
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Speaker 1: five hundred Pearl Buffalo dot Com. Dan, how are we

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00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: doing this week? Tough one for the Bills out there

995
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: in London.

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00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 8: I'm doing really well. Good to see you guys. Yeah,

997
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 8: obviously tough. You know, the travel the way the game

998
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 8: played out. The injuries again kind of the headline story.

999
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 8: Unfortunately two weeks in a row. So uh, tough game,

1000
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 8: jackson The bill is a good football team. Hopefully those

1001
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 8: guys can get well.

1002
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and interesting too, because the Bill's offense just never

1003
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: really found itself until late in the game where they

1004
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: kind of went no huddle had you know, and the

1005
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville's was up two scores with you know, and

1006
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: the Bills made them. Hey, and I got to ask you,

1007
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 4: as a former quarterback, when you're in there and you're

1008
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: trying to get things started. The Bills come out in

1009
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 4: their first third down and they dropped the first third

1010
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: down conversion right at the I mean, the guy's gonna

1011
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: take it, turn up the field. He drops it the

1012
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: next third down, same thing. He catches it, turns up

1013
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: the field and instead of dropping the shoulder and plowing

1014
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: his way for the first time, he kind of gets

1015
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 4: run out of bounds short of the sticks. They punt again.

1016
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: How you know, a slow starts kind of means something,

1017
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: do they not?

1018
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 8: Oh, they certainly do, and certainly against the good football team,

1019
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 8: you know, and one offensively where you know they have

1020
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 8: firepower in Jacksonville. Whether you know they scored forty or didn't,

1021
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 8: they still have firepower at the skill position. So you know,

1022
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 8: when James drops that first third down, it's it's man,

1023
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 8: you never want to start that way because then that

1024
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: gives you another you know, it's another three downs. What

1025
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 8: could happen in that set of three downs? And and

1026
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 8: the slow start. I've seen that they didn't travel till Friday,

1027
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 8: and I've seen people complaining about that. You know, I've

1028
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 8: played out there twice, uh And we went out there

1029
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 8: once on a Sunday night, maybe our Sunday night or

1030
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 8: Monday night. We were out there for the whole week,

1031
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 8: and we went down twenty one to nothing, you know,

1032
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 8: and we ended up winning the game on a game

1033
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 8: winning field goal. We played out there another time, we

1034
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 8: went out for the whole week. The team that played us,

1035
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 8: the Kansas City Chiefs, came in on I believe Friday,

1036
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 8: Friday afternoon, and they beat us like forty one to fourteen.

1037
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 11: So I don't know how much I've put into that.

1038
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 8: I don't know, but the slow start definitely just didn't

1039
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 8: allow them to really find any rhythm offensively.

1040
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: You have obviously been a big proponent of play action,

1041
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: it seemed like there was less of that in Buffalo's

1042
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: game plan this past Sunday, because, yeah, their percentages have

1043
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: gone down in that area. And actually when they went

1044
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: to it, they did have some success. I mean, they

1045
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: could have had a ninety yard touchdown if Josh puts

1046
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: it on Digs. I realized that's not an easy throw

1047
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: fifty yards down the field, and you never want to

1048
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: overthrow them.

1049
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: That's the last thing you want to do.

1050
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: But you know Diggs has to wait on that, and

1051
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: it's only I say only, it's only a fifty yard

1052
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: pass play.

1053
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: But why do you think they moved away?

1054
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: I guess the question here, Dan, is is there anything

1055
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: a defense does that a OC might see on film

1056
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: that would steer them away from play action or was

1057
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: it just a conscious decision like this is what the

1058
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: plan is going to be this week.

1059
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they only ran it four or five

1060
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 8: times if I'm right, I think there were four for

1061
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 8: four or five for five or something like that. So

1062
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 8: to answer that question, I think, really the only thing

1063
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 8: that shows up defensively that would scare or hesitate a

1064
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 8: play caller from diving in and using it as much

1065
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 8: as they maybe have in the pass would be if

1066
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 8: there were certain fronts that stress that play action protection

1067
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 8: or a person in that play action more than they

1068
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 8: want to. Now, Buffalo, you know, the play actions that

1069
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 8: they've been using haven't necessarily been It's not like you know,

1070
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 8: in a San Francisco world. Sometimes the type ends have

1071
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 8: to be a part of their play action protections. And

1072
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Speaker 8: that's when brock Perty gets hurt in the NFC title game,

1073
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 8: he's blocking an edge rusher a tight end. Is so,

1074
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 8: but that's not necessarily what Buffalo and can have done

1075
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 8: over the past couple of weeks. So I lean not

1076
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 8: towards that. I mean really in play action protection, it's

1077
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 8: it's it's more safe.

1078
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 11: You know.

1079
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 8: Now you're moving a little bit, and if you get

1080
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 8: beat inside or you get beat early, that's a problem.

1081
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 8: But that's the case for dropback protection and well as well.

1082
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Speaker 8: And it's not like Jacksonville does a ton of unique

1083
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 8: fronts on early downs. Like sometimes Jacksonville would get into

1084
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 8: a five man front that's their base early down five

1085
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 8: man front with about five defensive linemen across the line

1086
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Speaker 8: of scrimmage. But I don't think that Buffalo's play action

1087
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 8: pass protection is intricate enough where that would scare them

1088
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 8: away from it. So I don't necessarily know why they

1089
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 8: didn't do it more. And I don't think that there's

1090
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 8: a ton from a defense unless they're an overwhelming, like

1091
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 8: overload pressure unit that would scare you away from doing it.

1092
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 4: What do you think was missing from Buffalo's offense Sunday?

1093
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean definitely, we just talked about a little bit.

1094
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 11: Was way more play action.

1095
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 8: You know, they just didn't live into that world, and

1096
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 8: then they didn't generate a lot of the chunk.

1097
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 11: Pass game world.

1098
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 8: And not only that, you know, I think we touched

1099
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 8: on this last week, guys is if you watched you know,

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00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 8: I'm talking about this today on NFL Live. This second

1101
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 8: level meaning like that linebacker level right that five yards

1102
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 8: off the ball level of Jacksonville's defense was downhill in

1103
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 8: the run game, and we hit last week that not

1104
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 8: only putting Josh under center and running play action was

1105
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 8: you know, great for them because it helped their protection

1106
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 8: and Josh could drive the ball downfield and it allowed

1107
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 8: Steph time to work on his routes because that's his superpower.

1108
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 8: They had become a top three run team when they

1109
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 8: would put underneath and run the football. That wasn't the

1110
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 8: case again. And you know, if you watch Jacksonville's second

1111
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 8: level defenders, when they're trying to gun run the ball,

1112
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 8: it's downhill, hit downhill. And so they lost that element

1113
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 8: of their offense as well. And so I just think

1114
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 8: kind of reverting back to that and not even expanding

1115
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 8: it hindered them a little bit. And they didn't gain

1116
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 8: any type of explosive plays outside of one or two,

1117
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 8: and one of them was that play action to Steph.

1118
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 8: So it just forced a higher level of efficiency and

1119
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 8: that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: All right.

1121
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: So spinning it forward to the Giants here in week six,

1122
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: I know, the Bills, even despite last week's game, are

1123
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: still second in the league in point differential, behind only

1124
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco, you know who's been wiping the floor with

1125
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: people lately. The Giants are are the complete opposite end

1126
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. They're minus ninety one after five games,

1127
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: Dan Like, it's thirty one more points than the Broncos

1128
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: in terms of net point differential.

1129
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: That is.

1130
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they were struggling, but that's just

1131
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: stunning to me. After five games they've scored three points

1132
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: in the first quarter all season. We know that Daniel

1133
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Jones has come under fire. He's actually gotten injured too,

1134
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: and his a little bit iffy for this week. Do

1135
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: you just break it down for us offensively for them?

1136
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Is this more a byproduct of jones internal clock is

1137
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: completely shell shocked from all.

1138
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: The pressure that he has received.

1139
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: So is this a protection issue or is it you know,

1140
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones not letting it go and trusting it issue.

1141
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's probably it's more of a protection issue,

1142
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 8: and it's gotten worse as the weeks have gone on.

1143
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 8: And then it's the the quarterback. Isn't one of those

1144
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 8: guys that can overcompensate or overcome some of the protection issues.

1145
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 8: Last year, the success the Giants came from really two things,

1146
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 8: at least specifically to the offense. Outside of Saquan's performance,

1147
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 8: they did a great job of prioritizing protection. You know,

1148
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 8: they would have seven man eight man protection, and they

1149
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 8: weren't super explosive on offense, but didn't give the ball away.

1150
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 8: They stayed ahead of the chains. They were very efficient

1151
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 8: on offense, and then they would hit a chunk here

1152
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 8: or there, and they never panicked. Daniel wasn't in moments

1153
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 8: of panicking with the football because he had to think

1154
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 8: too fast. That hasn't really been a foundational piece of

1155
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 8: this year. I don't know why, but that hasn't been

1156
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 8: the case. And the second thing was Daniel was a

1157
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 8: problem solver, you know, like he did a great job

1158
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 8: last year. If you know, I got a problem with

1159
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 8: protection here, get the ball out, or I got a

1160
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 8: problem with the coverage here, throw the check down. And

1161
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 8: it was a very boring offense in many ways, but

1162
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 8: it was what was necessary for them to have the

1163
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 8: chance to win, and they did. And this year that's

1164
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 8: gone away, and I don't know I schematically they got

1165
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 8: away from some of the protection stuff. They've dealt with

1166
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 8: injuries on their offensive line. I'm very shocked that they

1167
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 8: haven't played. They've played as poorly as they've had on offense.

1168
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 8: You know, their left tackle has been hurt, the right

1169
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 8: tackle hasn't played to the level that they want to,

1170
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 8: their left guard has been hurt. So they've been down

1171
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 8: some some guys, there's no doubt about that. And then

1172
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 8: Daniel just you know, you wanted him to take this

1173
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 8: leap this year because the offensive line will be healthier

1174
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 8: and they got Darren Waller, and they drafted player named

1175
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 8: Jalen Hyatt out of the University of Tennessee who's a speedster.

1176
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 8: And you know, Wandale Robinson, who's their second your player

1177
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 8: out of Kentucky's there, and so they got more talent.

1178
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 8: And Daniel's just not that player. He's a good player,

1179
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 8: he's just not that player. And it's kind of been

1180
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 8: a snowball for their offense.

1181
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: So if how do the Giants how what's the scenario

1182
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: where the Giants walk into Buffalo Sunday night football and

1183
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: beat the Bills? I mean how it seems as though,

1184
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: and we've talked about it at length, when the Bills

1185
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: get beat, they helped the opponent. Now certainly they didn't

1186
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: do it with turnovers, ring, but penalty's hurt in this

1187
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: last week, they were flat. They couldn't, you know, drop passes,

1188
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: the untimely drops, not being efficient on offense. How do

1189
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Speaker 4: the Bills help the Giants this Sunday night? If the

1190
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: Giants are gonna win this game?

1191
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'd say, like the Bills would have to

1192
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 8: be really poor tackling, you know, just because the Giants

1193
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 8: will I would imagine do everything they can to get

1194
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 8: the ball out quickly given the pass rush that Buffalo

1195
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 8: still is showing. So get the ball out quickly and

1196
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 8: try to get completions. You're playing against the zone heavy

1197
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 8: defense in Buffalo, so they'd have to be really poor

1198
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 8: tackling on the defensive end and allow the ball to

1199
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 8: get over their head with adjailent highat But they haven't

1200
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 8: really tried that, Steve. You know, it's they haven't really

1201
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 8: tried that. So I think defensively, it's just like, can

1202
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 8: they make sure that they tackle really well because their

1203
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 8: defensive line should be able to have a ton of

1204
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 8: success against the Giants offensive line. And then I think offensively,

1205
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 8: you're gonna see man coverage. Their pass rush has been okay,

1206
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 8: it hasn't been as good as expected. They will throw

1207
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 8: some unique coverages at you. They had to pick six

1208
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 8: off two of last week, but that was a little

1209
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 8: bit more of a Tua thing. You know, if you

1210
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 8: remember the interception that you guys had Buffalo had against

1211
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 8: Tua when he's trying to throw the scene route is

1212
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 8: a very similar kind of concept where they didn't look

1213
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 8: at to his eyes, you know, they just kind of

1214
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 8: stayed to where their landmarks of the defense.

1215
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 11: And so.

1216
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 8: You know, I don't think that their defense was like

1217
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 8: this takeaway defense and then to to throw another ball

1218
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 8: where miscommunication.

1219
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 11: For another interception.

1220
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 8: So Josh will see some man coverage, You'll see some

1221
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 8: unique coverages, He'll see some unique pressures and blitzes because

1222
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 8: they I would imagine they'll try to take the ball away. So,

1223
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 8: you know, if Buffalo plays their level of football, I'm

1224
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 8: not even saying like their a level of football, but

1225
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 8: like they're they're winnable level of football, whatever you want to.

1226
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 11: Categorize, that is that they should handle New York.

1227
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: Uh, does anything change if for some reason Daniel Jones

1228
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: cannot play with the neck injury and Tyrod goes in

1229
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: Bills fans are all too familiar with Tyrod. But within

1230
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: the scope of the Giants offense, does anything change if

1231
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: Tyrod gets the start Sunday night?

1232
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 8: Now, you know Tyrod, you know Daniels a really good athlete.

1233
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 8: Tyrod's a really good athlete. Tyrod's seen a ton, but

1234
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 8: he's not necessarily this get it out, you know style

1235
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 8: of quarterbacks. So their offense doesn't change that much. They

1236
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 8: use a little bit of the quarterback run with Daniel.

1237
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 11: They use a little bit of the zone read with

1238
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 11: him as well.

1239
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 8: So stylistically, you know, maybe maybe Tyrod would be more

1240
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 8: willing to try and shoot the ball down field a

1241
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 8: little bit more, but stylistically that they won't be all

1242
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 8: that different.

1243
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: So as you see this game going forward for the Bills,

1244
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: certainly they didn't forget how to play offense this last week,

1245
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 4: and certainly the Jaguars are no pushover. Yeah, what do

1246
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 4: you see around the now? The Bills, you're right, have

1247
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 4: been estimated by injury? What about the teams? And I

1248
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: guess every team does it. What do you see as

1249
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: the you know, prognosis for a team that's got to

1250
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: overcome all this stuff, stay healthy, you know what I mean?

1251
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: Acclimating guys who are not expected to play now they're playing. Now,

1252
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: they're starting, and you may have to make some, you know,

1253
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 4: some different decisions about your style of play as an

1254
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: offense or defense when you got guys in there that

1255
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 4: are different talent level.

1256
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think offensively, there's a ton of concern

1257
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 8: right now with injuries.

1258
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 11: I think defensively.

1259
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 8: And you know, these these are like the never fun

1260
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 8: comments indoor conversations. I always get you know, kind of

1261
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 8: stuck with this stuff. Steve, We're not stuck with it,

1262
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 8: but you know, cause big time players will get hurt,

1263
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 8: and I hear it will often hear people be like,

1264
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 8: oh they'll they'll be okay, or they can survive. I

1265
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 8: don't necessarily subscribe to that a ton, you know, like

1266
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 8: Tredevius White is a highly paid corner for a reason,

1267
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 8: Matt Mlano is a highly paid linebacker for a reason.

1268
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 8: Don't You don't just like replace those guys and there

1269
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 8: is going to be an impact of them not being there.

1270
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 8: You wouldn't pay them if there wasn't. And you know,

1271
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 8: I think that the burden of their defensive line is

1272
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 8: going to go up. And I don't know what Jones's

1273
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 8: health in long term prognosis is, but the burden of

1274
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 8: the defensive line is going to go up. You know,

1275
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 8: Buffalo probably plays a little bit less man than they were,

1276
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 8: and they weren't obviously playing a ton of it, but

1277
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 8: you know, players like Elam and Dane have to step

1278
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 8: up and become more consistent pros and are they capable

1279
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 8: of that? That's gonna be the big story, you know

1280
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 8: through this season for Buffalo is will those players that

1281
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 8: weren't expected to be in those roles be able to

1282
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 8: play at a certainly winning level. And then as you

1283
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 8: get down the road, man, it's gonna be Candace offense,

1284
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 8: you know, once they get into the playoffs, because I

1285
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 8: believe they do. Still absolutely Candace offense carry them and

1286
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 8: can Josh carry them? And if they can, and that

1287
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 8: other side can be complementary enough with some of those losses,

1288
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 8: I still think it's a really bright future.

1289
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: Last one I got here, yeah, last one I got

1290
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: for you, Dan, And I know we'll talk more about

1291
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: this next week because it is Buffalo's Week seven opponent.

1292
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: But it seems like the stuff has really hit the

1293
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: fan in New England.

1294
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: Here three points in each of the last two weeks.

1295
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: Matt Jones has been benched each of the last two weeks.

1296
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like the cavalry is coming anytime soon

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Speaker 1: to help the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: How bad is it?

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Speaker 7: It's bad?

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Speaker 8: Would I would say it's probably the worst place in

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Speaker 8: the NFL to play quarterback right now? You know, bluntly put,

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Speaker 8: it's the worst pass protecting offensive line in football. It's

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Speaker 8: the worst group when it comes to guys you can

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Speaker 8: get open in football right now. That's that's what the

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Speaker 8: tape says. That's what the numbers and stats people say

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Speaker 8: as well. So it's it's bad now. I asked this

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Speaker 8: question the other day, who who was the last New

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Speaker 8: England Patriot drafted in the offensive skill group that became

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Speaker 8: like a really good player, like like I'm not talking

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Speaker 8: All Pro or Pro Bowl, just a really good impactful player.

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Speaker 8: I think I go back to like James White, you know. Remindra,

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Speaker 8: Stevenson looked really good last year, but he hasn't done

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Speaker 8: nearly what he did last year this year. And so

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Speaker 8: it's a bad situation in New England right now. It's

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Speaker 8: it's not a good roster, and it's it's.

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Speaker 11: A tough watch on tape. It's a tough watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what the word shadden freud means. It's

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Speaker 4: a German word. It's a German word meaning you take

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Speaker 4: great delight in the miss in the troubles of others.

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Speaker 4: And but Bill's fans are sitting right in the middle

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Speaker 4: of that, watching New England at absolutely ignite in flames.

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Speaker 4: It is so delicious.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks as always for the time. We'll catch up

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Speaker 1: with you next week.

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Speaker 11: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analyst former NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterback breaking it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He did an in depth breakdown of the Patriots on

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Speaker 1: social media on his Twitter handle. I guess if you

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Speaker 1: want to soak up more of that New England misery,

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Speaker 1: have at it. I mean, that's why I was shocked, Steve.

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Speaker 1: When you know, I looked at the numbers. I knew

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Speaker 1: things were bad with the Giants and their offense because

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Speaker 1: I hear it from some of my high school buddies

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Speaker 1: a lot right downstate, right like they're lamenting, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can't get any protection.

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Speaker 2: This is blah blah blah. But I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: they got problems, but not like New England. But you

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Speaker 2: look at it.

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Speaker 4: Three points in the last two games, in each of

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Speaker 4: the last two games, right, I have been the two

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: worst losses of Bill Belichick's coaching career.

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Speaker 1: And they got to win against the Jets, scoring fifteen points.

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Speaker 1: They won the game fifteen to ten. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And on the season, New England is minus seventy six

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Speaker 1: in net points. The Giants are minus ninety one. Now

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Speaker 1: that's due in large part to the forty to zhering

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Speaker 1: loss in Week one to the Cowboys. But still the

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Speaker 1: Giants have scored three points in the first quarter this season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not that is not good. The Saints lumped

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Speaker 4: up New England last week thirty four to nothing. They

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Speaker 4: lost thirty four to three, or thirty five to three,

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Speaker 4: or thirty.

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Speaker 2: Eight, thirty eight to three, thirty cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Three to the Cowboys, and Mac Jones got benched in

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Speaker 1: each of the last two games. And I hate to

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Speaker 1: say it, I'm gonna be the last guy sticking up

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Speaker 1: for mac Jones. But as Dan just said, their old

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Speaker 1: line is horrible, horrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they even even the the guy we've Cole Strange,

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Speaker 4: the guy they draft number one. He's on ir he's

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Speaker 4: not even playing, and he's the guy that was and

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Speaker 4: he they miss him. And he's the guy that everybody's

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Speaker 4: laughing at him for taking him so high in the

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Speaker 4: first round. The first round, he was a third round tech.

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Speaker 2: Jean McVay said, Oh, we're gonna look at him at

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Speaker 2: one on one.

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Speaker 4: Right, So.

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Speaker 1: He was I mean he was half in the bag too,

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Speaker 1: because they didn't have any first or second round picks.

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Speaker 2: But that's night one of the draft.

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Speaker 4: Right, So that's you know, they're it's they're in a

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 4: bad way. They're in a bad way.

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Speaker 1: It's rough, But I guess it's I guess in some respect.

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Speaker 1: Not that you'd hear this from the Bill's locker room

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Speaker 1: or anybody on their coaching staff say this, but I

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01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: think for Bills fans, that's why I'm just thinking, even

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Speaker 1: in spite of all these injuries, let's just let's just relax,

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit. They're playing two opponents

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: that they should beat even with their current roster beat up.

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Speaker 1: So let's just see how things materialize with the guys

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Speaker 1: that are filling in the next couple of weeks with

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Speaker 1: the Giants here at home and then on the road

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots next week, and and just kind of

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: sift through some of the guys you got to plug

1389
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: in and play for some of the people you lost

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Speaker 1: to injury. You may be pleasantly surprised if these next

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Speaker 1: two games are a struggle to win. Okay, maybe it

1392
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: is time to reassess. You still have time, you know,

1393
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: before the trade deadline or to see what's out there.

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Speaker 1: But I would just say your front office built this

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01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,919
Speaker 1: roster with proven depth. Let's see that depth prove itself

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: this week and next week and see where you are.

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Speaker 4: Right And I'm that's not out outlandishes, no, because I'm

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: you and I I think you and I are maybe

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01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: in a different spot than a lot of Bills fans

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01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: are because we're sitting here. You and I have sat

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Speaker 4: here and watched this team take shape from the new

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: guys training camp, walk throughs OTA's and they're out here

1403
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: playing tug of war in May remember, and we've seen

1404
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 4: it take shape, and we've seen all these guys. And

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01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: I've got a great deal of curiosity and enthusiastic curiosity

1406
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: about watching guys like Kyrie Elam take another step. Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine where Dorian Williams head was when he

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: got into the game this last weekend. Uh. And I

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01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 4: know people say, well, he's on this head. Listen, you

1410
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: you go in, you get plugged where you're not expecting.

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: You're asked to to place Matt Milan right.

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 4: Go, You're in the middle of the NF in an

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 4: NFL's number one defense and let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was moving so fast. I'm I know his adrenaline

1416
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 4: kicked in through the roof, and I can just relate

1417
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: so much to it. So some of these guys are

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 4: gonna need to take a deep breath and say, Okay, no,

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01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 4: you know what, I belong here, I'm gonna do this,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna play. Well, let's go. Because Dorian Williams was

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Speaker 4: overrunning some stuff during this game. I mean he got

1422
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 4: he got pulled out, he missed some tackle. He was

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 4: going crazy. So you know, you gotta give the he

1424
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: was around the ball, he was, Yeah, he was seeing it.

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: Tackles onles an hour, he was.

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Speaker 4: Seeing it all. He was there, but man, oh man,

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Speaker 4: he was.

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Speaker 2: Like jumping out of his skin. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So if you can just get that guy to put

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 4: a lid on it for just a minute and harness it,

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, he may be a guy. He may come

1432
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: out and impress this just like uh Bernard has. So

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01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: I'm I'm really curious about that. And and I think

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Speaker 4: Khalil Shakir same thing. He's got to settle down and

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01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 4: fit and settle in this week will be a big take.

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Speaker 4: If he has to play a lot this week, I

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: sense he will feel different, whether he plays differently or

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, he's gonna feel differently. You know, he's

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 4: gonna be there and he's gonna have a minute. Same

1440
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 4: thing with all these these young guys. Kingsley Jonathan I

1441
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 4: put on the white. That guy is going to be

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 4: a name. Bill's fans are gonna love here in the

1443
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: near fiewd. He is playing extra when he gets reps.

1444
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 4: That guy shows up. So guys like that. This team

1445
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 4: does have some really intriguing guys that I'm really excited

1446
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 4: to see play now. You know, whether they go out

1447
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 4: and it all blows up in our face against the

1448
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Speaker 4: New York Giants, it may because it's they're not playing

1449
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: in a vacuum. But there's a lot of fun reasons

1450
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 4: to watch these young guys get on the field.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but happy to take more

1452
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: of your phone calls in terms of how you think

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: the Bills should adjust to the recent rash of injuries

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: if at all eight o three five fifty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty will take more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we come back and take a look at

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: Got to crack that open here before the show's over.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by to Lot of Health.

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Speaker 1: And AD Pro Sports are teaming up to award varsity

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Speaker 1: Week six winners. In the Buffalo Region Section six, it's

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Speaker 1: Josh Brooks of Portville Central as he led the Panthers

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Speaker 1: to a twenty one to thirteen win over Falconery this

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Speaker 1: past weekend to approve to five and one on the

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Speaker 1: season and clinged a playoff spot in the process. Section five,

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Speaker 1: the Rochester Region Coach of the Week is mcway Jesuit

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Speaker 1: High School's Bobby Bates after the night's twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty one win over Hilton Friday night. MCWAD is now

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Speaker 1: six to zero and tied for first place in Double A.

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars grant from the Buffalo Bills and add Pro Sports.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the tweet sheet, which, as we know,

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Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Where we are

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Speaker 1: asking you how will the Bills adjust and overcome the

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Speaker 1: rash of injuries? Andrew says, well, don't get injured which

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Speaker 1: is hard not to do in this league. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember a season in the NFL where I've seen so

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Speaker 1: many injuries out of every team. So they just have

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Speaker 1: to find ways to stay healthy. That's how they're going

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Speaker 1: to get through it.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting answer, just don't get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Easier said than done. As he said himself, Jeremy says,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the hardest question in years. The only

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Speaker 1: thing they can do is hope the depth is as

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Speaker 1: good as we all hope and think it is. I

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Speaker 1: can't say I was really upset with anyone on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball Sunday, as they hardly had

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Speaker 1: time to prepare to be starters. Yeah, I said on

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday, if you had a problem with the

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Speaker 1: defensive performance in that game, I think you're barking up

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Speaker 1: the wrong tree.

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Speaker 4: Not paying attention that. Certainly they could have played better,

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Speaker 4: but they played well enough to win. It's the offense

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Speaker 4: that couldn't move the football consistent, got off to a

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Speaker 4: slow start. That game changes dramatically. If the Bills play

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Speaker 4: half as well as they did the week before and

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Speaker 4: can get a couple scores in the first half rather

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Speaker 4: than you know, struggle, you know, this is a team

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Speaker 4: that should have had a touchdown a quarter in that

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Speaker 4: game and could not do it. And if they do that,

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Speaker 4: it's a much different football game. That Yeah, despite all

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: the injuries on defense, that's not what the problem was,

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Speaker 4: which is which is stunning to think about.

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Speaker 2: Daniel going old school with his answer here. He says,

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Speaker 2: every team deals with this, and the Bills have been

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Speaker 2: one of the more healthy teams over the past few years.

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: Now it's time to see what they're made of. No excuses,

1511
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: next man out.

1512
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right, he is. Last year was probably an

1513
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 4: exception of that. They were injured last year as well

1514
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: to a great degree, but two years before that, for

1515
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 4: the two years they were often not injured, the most

1516
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 4: healthy team in the league, and they were making hay

1517
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: as a result of it. So you can say what

1518
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 4: you want and blame it on whatever and not accepted,

1519
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 4: but you got to if you want to dig down

1520
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 4: to what the root cause of problems are, there's always

1521
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: good reasons for it. Sometimes you don't like the answers

1522
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 4: to that.

1523
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: Bill's News consolidate.

1524
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: It says, majority of the injuries have happened on defense,

1525
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: knowing the higher potential for other teams to score more

1526
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: points than in previous weeks. Now means we should try

1527
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: to be more aggressive offensively and defensively. That is the question, like,

1528
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: does this offense get more aggressive because they feel they

1529
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: may need to score more points to post victories, or

1530
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: does the defense get more aggressive because they feel they

1531
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: need to accumulate more splash plays to make up for

1532
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: the deficiencies of talent on their starting eleven.

1533
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't think either side's going to change until they

1534
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: get into a game, where I would say inside of

1535
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 4: the demands they.

1536
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: Can play their game.

1537
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 4: They don't decide finger quotes that that's what they're going

1538
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: to be from now on. They get into a game

1539
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 4: and then they pull that out of their toolbox to

1540
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 4: use it if they need it, whether go more conservative

1541
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: defensively or more aggressive defensively, and vice versa for the offense,

1542
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 4: whether they go deep and start throwing it all over

1543
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 4: the joint or to go three tight ends and start

1544
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 4: handing it off all the time under center. That kind

1545
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: of stuff. You don't you're thinking about this, You know

1546
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 4: in a way that like you have to make these

1547
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 4: decisions now and then live with them. You don't you

1548
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 4: an NFL team is ready to win in multiple different ways.

1549
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 4: It becomes more difficult when players that you can count

1550
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 4: on in those situations are injured and you have to

1551
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 4: depend on somebody you're not sure about. That's the difference.

1552
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: So how that plays out remains to be seen. We

1553
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 4: have to wait and find out because we don't know

1554
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 4: anything more about these guys than the coaches do, and

1555
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: they don't know enough yet.

1556
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,919
Speaker 1: Matthew on the tweet, she says, basically, be more effective

1557
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: on offense because I think it would help put less

1558
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: pressure on the defense. I mean, there's no doubt in

1559
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: anybody's mind that the burden of last week's game fell

1560
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: largely on the defense because the struggles that the offense

1561
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: had throughout the course of that game until the latter stages.

1562
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: So too much of the burden fell on the defensive

1563
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball to hold them in the game.

1564
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: And for the most part, they came through in doing that,

1565
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: but by the end of the game they couldn't handle.

1566
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: That burden anymore and it's ultimately why they lost.

1567
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, more effective offense would certainly help, and it

1568
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: would reduce the burden on the defense, which as we know,

1569
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: will be shorthanded.

1570
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 2: For the foreseeable future.

1571
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: T Bieber says, I think we hit a stretch where

1572
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: the offense can carry us. Hopefully, if they can put

1573
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: points up, it'll give our defense room for mistakes. It's

1574
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: the best way to learn, in my opinion. It's interesting

1575
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: take there at the end. Yeah, Steve says, I think

1576
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: the defense already adjusted to the injuries during the game

1577
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday and they played well. The biggest difference this

1578
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: week is they can coach up the next man up

1579
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: and be even more prepared and adjusted for this game.

1580
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: To your point, se Dorian Williams, for example, if they

1581
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: decide he's going to be the starting will linebacker, he's

1582
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: gonna get all the snaps in practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1583
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: Saturday and be ultimately more prepared or significantly more prepared

1584
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: for the game on Sunday than just getting thrown in

1585
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: halfway through the first quarter and say go get them.

1586
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 4: Plus they can, Yeah, coaching them up from what they

1587
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 4: did in the game this last week will also help them.

1588
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 4: They'll say, listen, here's what you're thinking. Because the tendency

1589
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 4: and I'm just saying this happened, but it seemed like

1590
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: it's always an issue. Young guy gets in there, he

1591
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 4: feels like he's got to make it if he sees it,

1592
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: he's got to make every play. So they're running around

1593
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 4: like you know, a rocket ship, just jetting off into

1594
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: whatever part of space they want to go to whenever

1595
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 4: they see a bright light. Right, No, you've got an

1596
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 4: assignment you still have to carry out. Even when the

1597
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 4: ball's going over there, You've got to take the right

1598
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 4: angle and take the right gap because if it cuts back,

1599
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 4: it's your play to make. Then you got to trust

1600
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: your guys going to make the play at a point

1601
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 4: of attack. In the run game, that's why I run

1602
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 4: defenses work, and that's why they're so good in the NFL.

1603
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 4: These guys are disciplined. If it's your play to make,

1604
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 4: you make it. You don't try and make somebody else's play.

1605
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 4: Because when you over commit, all of a sudden, there's

1606
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 4: nobody where you're supposed to be, and a guy like

1607
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 4: Barry Sanders, you're looking at his name plate on the

1608
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 4: back of his jersey, he's gone, and everybody in the

1609
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 4: league is good enough to do that to you. So

1610
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: you learn quickly to stay disciplined. And I think some

1611
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 4: of these young guys, man, they were seeing it so well.

1612
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: They were I'm gonna make an amazing play watch.

1613
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 4: Me, and that's what they do. It's like and they

1614
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 4: you know, they take off like a road runner, and

1615
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 4: you know it's just too much.

1616
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phone today, do oh three

1617
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: oh five point fifty. We go to Jason on a

1618
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: cell next, what's up Jason.

1619
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 7: Hey, Christy, Steve, thanks to taking my call. Sure, I

1620
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 7: just wanted to commend Steve on using one of my

1621
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 7: favorite words, shodenfreude as it pertains to the Patriots, and

1622
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 7: just to put the cherry on top of that nice,

1623
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 7: delicious cake we're all enjoying this season. Chris, I think

1624
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 7: you said they scored three points in each of the

1625
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 7: last two games.

1626
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wrong about that. They got shut out

1627
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: last week.

1628
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, they scored three points in both of those games combined.

1629
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, which which I have no problem with

1630
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: being wrong on that.

1631
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: That means they scored even less. So I'm happy here, right.

1632
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 7: I had two of Bill Belichick's worst losses in back

1633
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 7: to back games. So you know, we we do have

1634
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 7: some problems here in Buffalo with the injuries, but I

1635
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 7: think we'll get through it and living in Rheoan. I'm

1636
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 7: kind of enjoying what's happening to Patriots Nation right now.

1637
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 7: So that's that's almost enough for me. Yeah, so thanks,

1638
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 7: thanks for the show, Guy and Steve. You're doing a

1639
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 7: great job representing formal football players, pulling out work like

1640
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 7: shot in Florida.

1641
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: There you go, that is the fifty cent word of

1642
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: the day. Thanks Jason, appreciate the phone call. Let's go

1643
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: to John on a sale next. What do you got

1644
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: for us?

1645
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: John?

1646
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was just wondering, I want to beat the

1647
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 10: dead horse, so to speak, about this jet lag thing.

1648
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 10: I know a lot of people say it doesn't affect them.

1649
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 10: It does affect them, But watching the game Sunday, you

1650
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 10: could basically tell that some of the players, not most,

1651
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 10: but someone were walking around like they're in a zombie movie. Now,

1652
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 10: I'm wondering if not focusing on the game because they're

1653
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 10: not one hundred percent, I wonder if that would cause

1654
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 10: someone to get injured. Debt normally wouldn't because they're not

1655
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 10: really focused. And I know what jet lack is. I've

1656
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 10: been overseen several times and I felt like a zombie

1657
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 10: when I was there, and then when I came back,

1658
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 10: I felt like a zombie. So I'll hang up and

1659
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 10: listen to you guys. Thanks so oft to taking my call.

1660
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, thanks John.

1661
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if we saw a lot of muscular injuries,

1662
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: I'd be inclined to at least hear your theory out.

1663
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: But I mean, Matt Mulano's injury is an injury we

1664
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: see all the time in football. Unfortunately, he got rolled

1665
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: up on his leg on the end of a play,

1666
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: and that has nothing to do with the travel the

1667
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: playing surface. It's a football play that happens, and unfortunately,

1668
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: guys get injured on those kinds of plays. Usually it's

1669
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: linemen that get those kinds of injuries more than anything.

1670
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: He's just in the wrong place at the wrong time

1671
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: and his foot gets caught under a pile and he

1672
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: can't pull it out in time and he's got a

1673
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: major leg injury.

1674
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: Because of it.

1675
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: Daikwan Jones, he has to dive at the ball carrier

1676
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: to make a tackle. The back half of his body

1677
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: is airborne. The running back changes direction as Daikwan Jones

1678
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: wraps him up with his arms, his entire backside of

1679
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: his body goes swinging around the body of the ball

1680
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: carrier and the last thing that's hanging on to him

1681
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: from daikon is his one arm. So now you've got

1682
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds swinging with centripetal force and

1683
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: all of that force is on his pectoral us. That

1684
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with jet lag, the playing surface,

1685
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Again, it's a football play that

1686
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: we've seen happen before. Again, it's just.

1687
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Too much force on one muscle group in your body

1688
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: and it gives.

1689
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: It's just gonna happen. That's football. So I I respectfully

1690
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: disagree with the theory.

1691
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 4: Certainly there's there's evidence that when they come out flat, uh,

1692
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 4: and it will manifest itself in a lot of different

1693
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 4: ways penalties, drops, lack of lack of concentration, and and

1694
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 4: when it happens like it does to like groups of guys,

1695
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 4: you know, like a bunch of guys dropping balls, a

1696
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 4: lot of guys you know, getting penalties, the offensive line

1697
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 4: not as sharp and getting allowing more pressure quicker on

1698
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 4: Josh Allen.

1699
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: Uh.

1700
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 4: You know, it just it manifests itself in the ripple

1701
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: effects or you know, you can call it whatever you want.

1702
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 4: But the slow start, I think I think one of

1703
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: the things too, is you get off to a slow

1704
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 4: start and then you feel like you've never gotten started,

1705
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 4: so you're you're always stuck in that first gear of

1706
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 4: the game where you're trying to like, all right, let's

1707
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 4: you know, you don't even know enough about what you

1708
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 4: can do in this game. Yeah, because you've dropped passes

1709
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 4: so far. You can't even get on the field. You

1710
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 4: can't stay on the field. So the game got away

1711
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 4: from them. There's just no question about it. And I

1712
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: think that's, you know, kind of the frustrating part about

1713
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 4: the whole thing.

1714
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: Break time for us here some final thoughts on the

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: tweets sheet.

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Speaker 2: I did my best on that. I don't have it

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Speaker 2: committed to memory, which which yeah. They are the presenting

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Speaker 2: sponsor of the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 4: So ticket Masters the official ticket marketplace of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: There you go, so gotcha. That was untimely.

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Speaker 1: My screen goes black as we're coming back and I

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01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: have to log it back in. Couldn't do it fast enough.

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01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Stuff happens here on the show each and every day.

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: We're usually able to hide most of it from everyone.

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Speaker 1: But not in that instance, in any way, shape.

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Speaker 4: Or form, I don't know the fragility of.

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Speaker 1: I was completely hosed, unequivocally hosed. Some final thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the tweet, sheeet I can bring that to you. Mark says,

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Speaker 1: we have an extra third round pick, so we'll have

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Speaker 1: to use it to acquire help this year. Unfortunately, those

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01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: injuries are long term. Must be willing to part with

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01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: a third so the Bills currently have a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: They're expected to get another in the compensatory pool by

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Speaker 1: losing Tremaine Edmonds in free agency.

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Speaker 2: That's a you may be getting a pretty darn good player.

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Speaker 4: If you're doing that, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you have to do it now.

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Speaker 1: I would see how the next two games play out

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Speaker 1: with the people you have in reserve already. Brandon Bean

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01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: built this roster with talented, proven depth. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: for that depth to step to the forefront, and let's

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Speaker 1: see what it can do here. In these next two games,

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Speaker 1: you may find that you don't need to do anything,

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01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 1: and now you have an extra third round pick to

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01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: utilize in the spring to fortify your roster for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. So I think Steve's in agreement with me

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Speaker 1: on this. Just hang out. Let the next two weeks

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01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: play out. See if the players that you're plugging in

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01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: who know this system, backwards and forwards, actually demonstrate improvement

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Speaker 1: over the next two weeks. From after being thrust in

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01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 1: unceremoniously last week into the lineup, Ron on the tweets

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Speaker 1: sheet says, there isn't There aren't many options other than

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Speaker 1: to trust those on the roster. I actually believe the

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Speaker 1: linebacker won't be as much as a disaster as many believe.

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Speaker 1: As long as the D line continues to play well,

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Speaker 1: it'll keep the linebackers clean and able to run and

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Speaker 1: make plays. And then finally, Jeff says, make a trade

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Speaker 1: for a good corner. You'll need him next season as well.

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Speaker 1: With Trey out of the equation, We'll have to see

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Speaker 1: what the equation is, but I think that's a little

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Speaker 1: tough to project.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a little premature to be thinking about next year.

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Speaker 4: Next year, So let's let's just let's worry about the

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Speaker 4: giants right now, and then we'll think about everything else

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Speaker 4: that comes. You're gonna have some guys this. We don't

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Speaker 4: know what this is gonna look like yet. We'll find out.

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Speaker 1: We'll have comment from Sean McDermott to bring to you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow Wednesday show. We'll see it one