1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: one never told you protection by her radio. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: And welcome to another happy hour where it's a wine. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Except I don't have wine. Do you have wine any. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: I wish if you had told me it was a wine, 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: I would have got. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad, I did not plan this correctly. 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's all right, that's okay. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Well it is a happy hour. And you know, we 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: love to sip on things as we are talking about 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: our woes or thoughts or whatever has been on our minds, 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: or sometimes sex in the city. But today, like I said, 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: it's a jin wine. And if you are partaking of anything, 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: do so responsibly. Be good to yourself and to your 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: body and to those around you. Annie, are you partaking 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: of anything? No, just war water, swarm water. Sometimes it's 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: got to be like that. It's got to be like that. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: You are partaking of taking care of yourself. 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: I am drinking on a diet doctor Pepper, not a sponsor. 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: But it is that cream soda one that I like. Yeah, 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: I know Annie hates it. And he made a face. 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: She made a face that was visceral. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: It was it was a lot of like a lot 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: of feeling came into that one. But also yes, again 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: not a sponsor. I doubt they would want to sponsor us. 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Tried to sponsor once on Savor and we had to 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: be like, well, yeah, sure, are you open to one 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: of those actively hating it? To be fair? 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: I guess the new way they're transitioning it, it would work. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I think it would be funny. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: You know, they don't like it on our segments. They 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: don't want us to be funny. We can't have personality. 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: What are you talking about, Annie? 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? These women no way funny. 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: What are you talking about anyway? Yeah, so today's happy hour, 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: I am going to have a moment of like, why 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: so just content warning, I am talking today's political issues, 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: not fully in depth because we're not going all into it, 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: but like just the theme or subject of us is 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: just disappointment, Like how do we get beyond this? Because 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: people that I trusted, people we have vouched for on Mike, 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, like and then they come out doing things 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: that you're like, wait, what, but why Recently our state 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: senators voted in favor of the upcoming Secretary of Labor. 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I the amount of disappointment that 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: exudes because for a minute I thought they would at 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: least like not partake, But no, that they did, because 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that has everything would like not 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: wanting to shut down the federal government, YadA, YadA, YadA. 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: And I'm sure maybe they have thoughts to this, But 52 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: why when we are in such a state of peril, 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: Just why? Of course, this also comes down to the 54 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: conversation of like, not necessarily, I do not idolize politicians. 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: Let's just go ahead and put that out there, because 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: I know too well, especially in the US, people like 57 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: to straddle defense. And it's really upsetting to see that. 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: You thought when you thought some people held to certain standards, 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: and then you see them not because they vote for 60 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: the interest of their pockets or for like preconceived ideas 61 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: of God. To play the game, I guess. And there's 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: been so much of that recently, so much of this 63 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: nonsense of trying to play the game in order to 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: appease everyone. So therefore they're making everybody angry, and especially 65 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: here in the state of Georgia. We talked about it 66 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: recently about John Ossoff. He's the next one to be 67 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: going through an election possibly being unseated here in the 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: state of Georgia, and we hear Marjorie Taylor Green is 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: the favorite favorite to run against him, and this is 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: not helping, This is not this is not helping seeing him. 71 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: He's also gotten some several stances of things that's happening 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: with Israel and Gaza that I found it very disappointing 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: as well. I know that he is a part of 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: the Jewish community, and I get a lot of this 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: conversation in that perhaps there's some confusion. I don't know. 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna explain things 77 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: away because I don't know this man. I thought we 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: agreed on most of the things and again we don't 79 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: have to like the morality and the values for the 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: beginning of his campaign aligned and then it feels like 81 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: things are falling apart. And I don't know again if 82 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: this is my level of everything's the worse and I 83 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: hate it here type of mindset and I need to 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: back up. But I'm just trying to figure out and 85 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: listeners and Annie, how do we deal with these types 86 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: of disappointments outside of like, yes, we need to be 87 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: active and make sure that they understand we are unhappy 88 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: and that we need to vocalize it. We need to 89 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: come through and people are protesting. I love seeing the 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: Tesla take down. It's been really rewarding to see and 91 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: encouraging to see. But what do you do when it 92 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: feels like it's so out of control? Because if it 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: comes down to John Ossoff versus Marjorie Tayler Green, obviously 94 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to vote one way over the other 95 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: for the betterment of all of Georgia, society, humanity, however 96 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: you want to look at this. But at the same time, 97 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: I want him and the other people who are supposed 98 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: to be our voices, who are supposed to protect our rights, 99 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: to understand how severely disappointed we are and that you're 100 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: grifting because I've gotten how many texts from his campaign 101 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: and emails saying they need donations to fight against Trump, 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: but they're not fighting anything. So it seems I am 103 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how do we handle this type 104 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: of disappointment. 105 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: It's tough, it's difficult. 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: I feel like they really betrayed us. Well, he sound 107 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: like my mom at the beginning of those Well, Samantha. 108 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's true, and that's the whole 109 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: thing about, you know, holding your politicians accountable for what 110 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: they said, but things also change, and also I mean 111 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: how much can I hold them accountable? But also, no 112 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: one's doing what they said they were going to do 113 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: really right, So I think every I think right now, 114 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: everything is just a constant state of we don't know 115 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: what's happening here, even for politicians in some circumstances. So 116 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no good answer for that 117 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: other than yeah, making it known. This is not what 118 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I wanted. That's not why I voted for you, right, Yeah. 119 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: And I mean there's so many states like statuses that's 120 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: happening around the country. And again, I think I talked 121 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: about it in a previous Happy Hour about like this 122 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: chaos is the point. There's so much the things that 123 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: we are supposed to do as citizens and voters we did, 124 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: and it feels like it's coming back to bite us 125 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: because even the ones where we had victory, I'm not 126 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: seeing the victory. I'm not seeing that portion of them 127 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: standing up. Al Green, a presentative of al Green, really 128 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: did some kind of did what we wanted in that 129 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: like he was very vocal and very like no, we 130 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: do not respect this man. You know, we need accountability. 131 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: And then Democrats came about like, oh, calm down, this 132 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: is not appropriate. We need to be respectful, and then 133 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: forgetting like, hey, you know, this administration is literally taking 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: away the rights of a big chunk of the population 135 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: that voted for you, most of the people that voted 136 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: for you, and you're sitting here talk about being respectful 137 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: to a speech versus actually being appalled at the speech. 138 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: So it's just such an odd place to be that 139 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: when those who like we have touted that if you 140 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: do it the right way, if you do this in 141 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: this play, and if you vote, go out and vote 142 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: and let your voices be heard, then things will be 143 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: taken care of. But it has been far from that. 144 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: And of course when we talk about this like type 145 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: of administration that came in full force ready to implement 146 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: Christian nationalism, implement billionaires over the vast population and their citizens, 147 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: is a whole different story. It's this whole different conversation. 148 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: The fact that we are now on a human rights 149 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: watch list, you know, like it's all of these things. 150 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth about this disappointment because I 151 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: really am like, how do we gauge this, How do 152 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: we gauge this conversation? I am wanting to see my 153 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: family less and less. Of course I've been disappointed, and 154 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: I know they are disappointed in me. Like this goes 155 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: back and forth in that level and like to co 156 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: and see them right now. I'm scared because, like I said, 157 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: I feel like this could be the ruining of my 158 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: second family, my family because of this politics. I don't 159 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: want that to be. But if they come in touting 160 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: about how great a Musk is doing, I'm gonna fight 161 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: somebody verbally because that's definitely you're telling me everything I 162 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: need to know and how much you don't care about 163 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: me as a person, as a human and as your 164 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: adopted daughter you brought over here because you empathetically thought 165 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: I need to save the children from a different country 166 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: and bring him them here and then have them on 167 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: a green car till they were fourteen, Like so many 168 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,359 Speaker 2: things that doesn't make sense and the level of disappointment, 169 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to like like wade through to the 170 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: other side of like how do I get to this 171 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: point because again, even when we do things respectfully, it 172 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it's working. There's I know we're all 173 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: in the same state too, But my biggest question is 174 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: how are you going through this disappointment? Like, how are 175 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: you getting through it outside of just being angry and 176 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: trying to find a solution? Like personally, like it's I 177 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 2: I feel it. I feel it in everybody's conversation, and 178 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: everybody's just like willingness to go out. People want to stop, 179 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: like just the freeze, like everybody freezing in like anxiety 180 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: and fear and like just interacting is so palpable that 181 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: it's alarming. At the same time, it just makes me, 182 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: honest sleep a superpower. So I'm just trying to figure 183 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: out how are y'all doing? How are y'all surviving this? Annie? 184 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: Are you surviving? Well? 185 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm here. 186 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. 187 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: That's something. 188 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: You have a visceral reaction to Dr Pepper that counts. 189 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: I still have reactions to things. There was a point 190 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: in time where I couldn't even get excited about the 191 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Last of Us two, the second season because I was 192 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: too worried about politics. And now I'm excited about that. 193 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I love that. 194 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: No, it's I mean, it's tough. I feel like I 195 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: think all of us have really good days and really 196 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: bad days, and a lot of days that feel like 197 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: you're just in a haze than trying to get by 198 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: and maybe not look at the news that day because 199 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: it's just gonna change the next day and it's gonna 200 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: be worse or better and you don't know because it'll 201 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: change the next day again and you don't know. So 202 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 1: I'm surviving. 203 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is the key. I will say so. 204 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Listener Susie Hi, who also follows us on Blue Sky, 205 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: she wrote something about she's gonna tooot her own horn 206 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: because she did something and she's very proud of that, 207 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, I think that's the that. I 208 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: don't know why. That was just a small post about 209 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: like how she feels accomplished and I love that. I'm like, 210 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: I think that's that's what I want to see more of. 211 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: I want to see more of the individuals who are 212 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: triumphanting over whatever that day and I am loving that. 213 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why it gave me so much encouragement. 214 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: So Susie, if you're listening to this episode, which you 215 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: might not be, thank you. Like I like, I went 216 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: wiped in immediately. I'm like, yes, toot that horn, like 217 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: because it just felt like, Ah, I don't think we're 218 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: in such a bad headspace. And I say this about 219 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: myself as well, that feeling like I can do that 220 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: is a impossible be too much and ce not done enough, 221 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: like all of these things like I don't know, let 222 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: me see if I can think of something that I 223 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: could toot my own horn. I haven't heard that phrase 224 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: in a long time, so I appreciate that too, you know, 225 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: like we are, I think we're bringing out good content 226 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: even in this dreagery of a year. I think we're 227 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: doing some good content. I feel like we're doing some 228 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: informative conversations, we're looking at insights. We're doing a great 229 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: job in bringing both your personality and my personality into 230 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: this show, and that we are keeping true to it 231 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: no matter what is happening in the state of the world, 232 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: and hopefully we are balancing things out. I also am 233 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: very on edge about saying the wrong thing and feeling 234 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: like I might offend a group of people who are 235 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: already feeling ostracized. So I hope that's not the case. 236 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: And we just talked about sin of empathy, and we 237 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: were talking about like how they equate being queer as 238 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: being like overly sexual and polyamorous, all the things I 239 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: actually want ab out there that we don't think there's 240 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: anything wrong with that. If you're consenting adults living your 241 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: life and are happy, that is a beautiful thing. So 242 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: even if like that should have been part of that conversation, 243 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: but we were bypassing it because there's so much to 244 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: be said. But you know, in the back of my head, 245 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, we do not. I hope for the most 246 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: part that everybody understands that when we are talking about 247 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: these types of conversations that it's not about shaming a 248 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: group of people that are just trying to live. It's 249 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: about shaming people who uses their own judgment as to 250 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: say what's right and wrong, and that's the only way 251 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: to be slash use it to take away people's rights, 252 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: which is awful. So all of those to say, is 253 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: this type of conversation that we're having, we want to 254 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: keep having it, And I think I think for the 255 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: most part we're doing a pretty good job and doing so. 256 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: So that's the way I think we can toot our horn. 257 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: Even though I did bring a bit of like, but 258 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: we could do this better. Apparently, I really can't do 259 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: that well. 260 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Always looking for ways to improve to your horn. 261 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: Annie, what you got, Yes, let's see. 262 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean I agree. I'll also say personally, at the 263 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I was like not, I didn't know. 264 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know how we were going to continue to 265 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: do how I was going to continue to do it, 266 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: just because it's miserable. A lot of times I say 267 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: this from a very privileged place. I get to work 268 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: from home researching a thing. I was thinking to es 269 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: today about like previous jobs I had, and how I 270 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: prefer this one the most, so to put that out there. 271 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: But it does mean that you have to delve into 272 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: some things that you'd rather on some days be like why, why, 273 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: why do I have to do this? This is horrible? 274 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Why are any of us doing this? But so I agree, 275 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I think for me, I've also you know, I've hung 276 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: out with a lot of people. I've seen a lot 277 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: of people. I saw my mom last weekend, which was 278 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: a much less fraud experience for me than it is 279 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: for you. But it was really nice seen her forever 280 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: and I forgot I forgot how much I missed her. 281 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh I'm getting a little teary about it. So I've 282 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: made I kept up with these relationships that actually kind 283 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: of died off when I was so stressed about the election. 284 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: It's funny how that works. But I've done that and 285 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: I've still still writing. I told you my fan fiction. 286 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: People are mad at me, but I'm that chapter is 287 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: almost done. If anybody happens to read it, I swear 288 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: to god, it is almost done. 289 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: I love it. People will probably come tuning in for 290 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: the first time. People coming from your fans like to 291 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: find you, and they found you. 292 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that you know I'm an audio because 293 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: I accidentally write a lot of times at the end. 294 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, you know what. I like that. 295 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, buddy. 296 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's good. 297 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: They might they might have translations on it. 298 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: I have audio. 299 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: I love it audio readers. Yeah. I think that's that's 300 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: a really big conversation, like having friendships. Because I've been 301 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: slowly working my way into the public, into the like 302 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: actual environmental social places, I'm like, okay, I can do this. 303 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: I even instigated. Some of them are like, whoa, look 304 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: at me, trying to be all active. But yeah, I 305 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: think that's important because it feels you and I've already 306 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: talked about our struggles and trying to come back into society, yes, 307 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: especially now, and everything being as odd and feeling like 308 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: everything's extra work, like putting on appropriate clothes that's not stained. 309 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, Am I wearing a stain hoodie? Yes? Do 310 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: I still love it? 311 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 312 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's part of the big thing. 313 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: And and for our listeners, please write in, please let 314 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: us know what you or how you navigate your disappointments, 315 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: because I know as vast especially right now, and I've 316 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: heard from We've heard from many of y'all talking about 317 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: how you've been disappointed in your politicians, as your local politicians, 318 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: your people who you really thought had your best best 319 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: interest and then they come out in a very unexpected way. 320 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: How do you navigate that? And then yeah, to your horn, 321 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: let us know what's going good and how you are 322 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: accomplishing things, because those are the stories we need as 323 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: a reminder that, yes, we're going to get past this. 324 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: It's going to take a minute, we're going to have 325 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: to go through some really dark things together, but in 326 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: that end we're going to come out. So yes, thank 327 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: you for letting me whine. 328 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Always, always, always well listeners, Yes, please contact us. We 329 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: love hearing from you. You can email us at Hello 330 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: at stephone Never Told You dot com. 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