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Speaker 1: Countdown to kickoff continues. The Jaguars and the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers coming up Christmas Eve, Week sixteen, battle of first

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Speaker 1: place teams, whether they're tied for first place in the

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Speaker 1: respective divisions, and it's time for our weekly conversation with

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Speaker 1: Pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. Playoff football

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Speaker 1: in December doesn't get much tighter than this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: three way tie for first in the AFC South, two

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Speaker 1: other this week.

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Speaker 2: Fred, JP, you said it, man, playoff football in December.

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Speaker 3: Before that goes over a lot of people's head, all

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Speaker 3: that means is you gotta win every game. You cannot

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Speaker 3: lose under any circumstances. There has to be an extreme

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Speaker 3: sense of urgency in these games. As the season is

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Speaker 3: winding down now, the mindset is we can't lose. But

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Speaker 3: unlike the playoffs, if you happen to lose, you have

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Speaker 3: two more weeks for other things to kind of sort

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Speaker 3: itself out. But again, if you don't lose, you control

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Speaker 3: your own destiny. That's just the most simplest way. Even

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Speaker 3: if that the most simplest, most you can't use most

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Speaker 3: with ESD. So that's the simplest way I can put it.

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Speaker 3: Just don't lose and we can solve all those problems,

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Speaker 3: even the grammar miss the inappropriate grammatical or the grammatical errors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's what they taught you at Florida. I

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Speaker 1: suppose Fred, well, you know when they were teaching or

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Speaker 2: Of course Fred Taylor with us.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the number one storyline this week is

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and his status. And you know we won't

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Speaker 1: find out until later in the week what his deal is.

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Speaker 1: It's a concussion protocol. He's got to go through five

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen often, though it's possible with Trevor. You know,

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Speaker 3: You know, JP, just the first of all, the concussion

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Speaker 3: Protocol is an amazing measure that they use, and I

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Speaker 3: think that if they had used it more in my day,

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Speaker 2: So we all hope that.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, even if Trevor makes it out of

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Speaker 3: With that being said, I think CJ. Beth, we're back

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Speaker 2: And I think they're in the same position this week.

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us. You know, in the passing game,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you know, that's why they bring you in.

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Speaker 1: Brett Taylor with us. All right, you said it's another conversation,

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Speaker 2: So I think if you try and commit to the run,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember the last time I saw running backs

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Speaker 2: And he's capable. We've seen it last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't even have to ask a question.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's it's I don't want to say it's awful.

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Speaker 1: It's laying heavy, it's weighing heavy on your mind. Fred

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Speaker 3: I've been in those situations where I'm like, man, we

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Speaker 2: That's how we were built. This team is not built

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Speaker 1: He had a perfect passer rating last week, one of

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is playing well. He's his outlet. Baker has

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Speaker 3: best that they probably faced all the year.

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Speaker 1: So we got that going for us, which is nice. Fred,

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Speaker 1: have a merry Christmas, you and the family, and hey,

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Speaker 1: here we go. It's Christmas Eve. Football Jaguars, Buccaneers, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: Look, whatever happens to day, JP, All I know is

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Speaker 3: the food tastes better when you win. This is for

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Speaker 3: the players, you know, if they got there, there there

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Speaker 3: their little Walkmen. They don't even exist no more, but

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Speaker 3: So if there are guys, if you're listening, you get

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Speaker 3: a win. The food tastes better, the eggnog.

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Speaker 2: You can go a.

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Speaker 3: Little heavier on the eggnog whatever you're spiking it with,

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Speaker 3: and you baby chill out for a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: You just dropped a Walkman on them. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: what your cassette tapes? You gonna play cassettes too.

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Speaker 3: Listen if they are listening, I can guarantee you there

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Speaker 3: are probably eighty percent of the locker room have clue.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have a clue what a Walkman.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, I miss mine every single day.

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Speaker 2: That great invention. Man. It was amazing product. Yeah, indeed,

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Speaker 2: the Walkman unbelievable. I was talking about.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about an MP three JP, I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about the original Walkman with the tape and you roll

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Speaker 3: it out that you get upset when the cassette gets

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Speaker 3: stuck in there.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you got a flu go around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those were today, side A side B, Like how

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Speaker 3: you get a side A and B when it's technology

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Speaker 3: is amazing?

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is the guy I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: right now that has the ear button his ear.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how it's changed.

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Speaker 3: I got the earbud in my ear, but I'm talking

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Speaker 3: to you through speaker.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of on the internet. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that, like you can talk.

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Speaker 2: That in itself.

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Speaker 3: If someone had said that thirty years ago, you'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's the Jetsons. That ain't happening, Like, but look here

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Speaker 3: we are. We're able to talk through the computer. Like

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Speaker 3: imagine if you had known about what what level, how

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Speaker 3: the progression of the Internet would have been back when

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Speaker 3: this guy by the name of Jeff Bezos or Steve

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Speaker 3: Jobs and these guys came around, when those companies were

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Speaker 3: gonna go out here and hustle up some money and

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Speaker 3: buy me apple Stock. I ain't trying to buy no Nikes,

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Speaker 3: but or no cleats. I'm buying cleats anyway.

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Speaker 2: JP. I had figured you were Fred.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you. I'll see you in a minute