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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen a hot. Hey, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: to do some podcasting. Today is a Saturday, starting later

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Speaker 1: Happy Juneteenth to everybody. Happy Jane teenth. Jane in the

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Speaker 1: it just became a national holiday, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. I don't think it precludes

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Speaker 1: The first one is episode twenty three fifty one, the

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Speaker 1: Dairy Queen Hive. You got two comments even He says,

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Speaker 1: I'm president of the Derrick Queen Hive and founder at

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Speaker 1: the Army Hive. Just in case you didn't already know, well,

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Speaker 2: The dairy Queen food.

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Speaker 4: But I guess claim what claim your titles?

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Speaker 1: The poem was do dairy Queen non ice cream food slap?

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Speaker 1: And I think I was supposed to say smacks, so Nick,

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Speaker 2: It's my bad.

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Speaker 1: I meant to say smacks my bad. Anyway, Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: I haven't had it. Yes, forty three percent say it

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Speaker 1: does smack my fault like I said, thirty percent say

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Speaker 1: they haven't had it in twenty eight percent say actually, no,

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Speaker 1: it does not smack. Ravens says, the cheeseburgers and fries

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Speaker 1: are amazing. The fries even better than McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: All right, Alicia says, I'm ashamed to say that cheeseburgers

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Speaker 2: Oh, Angela says, chicken tenders are on point.

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Speaker 1: Burgers are right in their hand, and their Texas toast

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Speaker 1: is tasty, and their fries always yummy and hot. DQ

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Speaker 1: is more than mister Misty grape drinks, which are also delicious.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Angela. This is the this is true.

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Speaker 1: This is the truth that ev is scared to get

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Speaker 2: Says Dairy Queen selection of food.

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Speaker 1: Reminds me of Wendy's, which isn't a bad thing, since

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Speaker 1: I prefer Wendy's versus most food at fast food chains.

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Speaker 1: the one burg King just released. I'll really be impressed,

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Speaker 1: Khalil says. When I ate beef, the burgers really were

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Speaker 2: Burger ranking list Burgers. I have to think about that one.

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Speaker 1: And also like there's certain places that I don't know

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Speaker 1: Checkers and uh, it's like the kind of burger you

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it's so good.

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Speaker 4: You can just feel your arteries clogging.

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Speaker 2: And it's made to order.

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Speaker 1: Everything is made to order, so it's always fresh and hot.

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Speaker 1: Wendy's just still up there. I think Cookout burgers are

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I really do think it depends on what part

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Speaker 1: Man, we don't have something too like in and Out, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or we have Heartis but not called juniors, and we

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Speaker 2: Uh Khalil said.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and then miss barn says, I'm here for the

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Speaker 1: are trying to appeal to the weed head crowd.

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's been in Jersey and they they good.

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Speaker 2: You know, I fuck with the ice cream.

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Speaker 1: But that's because also for me with Dairy Queen, it's

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Speaker 2: Was episode twenty three to fifty two.

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Speaker 1: We were joined by comedian Liz Glazier, who was a

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Speaker 1: great guest, first time guest on the show and says,

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear you talk about this, so I thought

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Speaker 1: i'd asked. Twitter recently was banned in Nigeria because the

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Speaker 1: deleted the post that was considered a declaration of war

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Speaker 1: his opponents. Trump even applied to January sixth attack on

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Speaker 1: the Capitol. Their reason was free speech. I've been trying

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Speaker 1: same thing. You know what, and not versed in Nigerian politics,

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Speaker 1: let me just start with that. I would imagine that

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Speaker 1: One could I'm sure the other side of that argument

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Speaker 1: it was someone else. Were not playing that shit no more.

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Speaker 2: We just making people's countdown.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm being fair to Twitter, they have been

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Speaker 1: say like wild insurrection and shit, they are getting banned

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Speaker 4: Enough to be like, hey, don't be sitting, don't be

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Speaker 2: I assume racism affects everything.

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Speaker 1: So if there's a double standard even for doing bad shit.

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, that's probably just because of racism.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that and like Rogers said, they with Trump. They

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Speaker 3: was like, see this is what happened. You drag your feet.

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Speaker 4: They was like, We're not gonna drag our feet this time.

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Speaker 2: Possibly, you know.

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Speaker 2: The Paul was do movie montage just make you cry?

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Speaker 4: Or never care sometimes depending on the trailer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a sometimes person for sure. It just depends

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Speaker 1: on what kind of movie it is. But you know

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Speaker 1: the you know the ones like boxing movies are good

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Speaker 2: Montage shows Mody working hard.

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Speaker 1: But Angel says, the montage in the movie Life gets

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, all the Pixar montage stuff.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three fifty three in the Whites, we discussed a

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Speaker 1: Swaby p says, I'm just here for the insurrection intro music.

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Speaker 1: I know there isn't much insurrection news nowadays, but we

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Speaker 1: need more of that bop please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he is the bop yep. I love that. I

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Speaker 1: Ev E says, I'm glad that LATINX people have in

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Speaker 1: Maybe leing Manuel Miranda's can since there about giving more

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Speaker 1: Afroatenics people more opportunities. But this is a criticism he

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Speaker 1: so I don't really believe him until.

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Speaker 1: knows and believes, Hey, I did fuck up.

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Speaker 2: That's that's on me. I gotta do better.

443
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Speaker 1: And nothing we say right now, nothing anyone has to say,

444
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: whether they believe or don't believe, it matters because at

445
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day, time will tell yes, the

446
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: next time he does a project. It could take years

447
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: for that shit. You know, this shit doesn't just like

448
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, it might take a while for us to

449
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: see that in his work, you know, and for it

450
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: to be like authentic and not pandering and all this shit.

451
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of work.

452
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: So Yes, And because a lot of people on the

453
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: side don't have the critical thinking skills to when they

454
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: call out these valid critiques and these these critiques are improved,

455
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: nobody ever comes on the backside and they let the work.

456
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: Some people do, but most people won't go very rarely

457
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 3: backside and be like, you know what they did address

458
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Speaker 3: those these problems that.

459
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Speaker 1: I have very rarely and honestly, you almost like I told,

460
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Speaker 1: like we said with Mike, I don't think you can

461
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Speaker 1: do it for those people, m m. You know, like

462
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: when I when I apologize for stuff on the show,

463
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it for those people. I'm doing it

464
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Speaker 1: for myself and my own integrity. Like this is how

465
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Speaker 1: I feel about what I did, and why I feel

466
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Speaker 1: sorry about what I did, and why you know, I

467
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: gotta do better or whatever I like, cause I can't

468
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Speaker 1: control how you that's an egotistical to think I can

469
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: control how you receive my apology or my actions. Like

470
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Speaker 1: I've seen too many examples of people that hold that

471
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Speaker 1: shit over folks head for leverage and stuff.

472
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Speaker 4: You can't.

473
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: You can't do it. You just got to understand the

474
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: past is the past.

475
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 1: And I can only control what I do in the future,

476
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna do.

477
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: From now on. Agreed.

478
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with him. And you know,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping, as we always with any of this shit.

480
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm always hoping for the person to have better material,

481
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Speaker 1: better behavior in the future, because I think that will

482
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Speaker 1: help everybody. Yes, the poe is do you worry about

483
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Speaker 1: your unvaccinated friends and family?

484
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Speaker 2: Yes?

485
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Speaker 4: No?

486
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Speaker 1: Or I'm the unvaccinated friends of family yes yeah. Seventy

487
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Speaker 1: percent of our audience said yes, which you know, I

488
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Speaker 1: some means they're vaccinated, and you know you worry about

489
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Speaker 1: it because at this point it's very much a black

490
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Speaker 1: thing for our community.

491
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Speaker 2: But we can't say that.

492
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Speaker 1: But we can't really talk about it because nobody wants

493
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Speaker 1: to feel or you know, say anti black shit. You

494
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Speaker 1: don't want to make it seem like black people don't

495
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: have valid feelings and all this shit. But then I'm like,

496
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Speaker 1: death is the other side of this, and I know

497
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Speaker 1: what you do. And then also I think a lot

498
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Speaker 1: of peop people have made a decision. I think they

499
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: just like, I'm not getting this shit, and I don't

500
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: think it's a matter of like at this point, I

501
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: think it's not a matter of missing like not having information, misinformation,

502
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: not even opportunity for most folks that don't have it

503
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: at this point, it's really a lot. I'd say the

504
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: majority of it is I've made a decision not to

505
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: get it. And people are struggling with the idea that

506
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: black people did are doing that, but because they're like,

507
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: we're so used to the society where everything we attack

508
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: is in anger, and I think the only way they

509
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: think they can fix a problem is by attacking people.

510
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: Angrily online and all this stuff.

511
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: And this is a problem where you're like, I don't

512
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Speaker 1: want to do that to my own people. You know,

513
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: this is the hammer that I use to fix everything,

514
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: and I don't want to use this hammer. So we

515
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: just gotta not say anything, or just gotta beg and

516
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: help and please not really do help. People come around

517
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Speaker 1: on it, because like I said, I worry about my

518
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Speaker 1: family and friends that at this point say they don't

519
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get it. I'm like, I don't know

520
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do then.

521
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: Right, And it's going to be the to the point

522
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: to where, like we said, it's gonna be a separation eventually.

523
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Speaker 4: And you know, you've reading You've.

524
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Speaker 3: Read articles to say the people in the hospital right

525
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: now are unvaccinated. The people that's catching COVID for the

526
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Speaker 3: most part, you know, because the shots are one hundred percent,

527
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Speaker 3: are unvaccinated. The people that are being on ventilators are

528
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: the unvaccinated. Like, those numbers have not gone down. So

529
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Speaker 3: you denying you waiting whatever is, it does not excuse

530
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: the fact that if you catch this shit, there's a

531
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Speaker 3: higher probability that you're going to die. And my thing,

532
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: I rather not lose you. But at the same time,

533
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Speaker 3: I can't want you to live more than yourself.

534
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Speaker 1: So I mean I'm making I'm making my own little

535
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Speaker 1: boundaries in my mind. I mean, people have to do

536
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: it all the time, but I already have my like, well,

537
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: if I ever hear that this person sick or like

538
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: dead or whatever, I'm just already preparing the idea that

539
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: that could happen and they.

540
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: Know the consequences and they just don't care.

541
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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to, Like, I'm already

542
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Speaker 1: preparing so that I won't be too angry about it,

543
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: because I think anger would be a real thing.

544
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Speaker 2: I would feel if people who are like, yeah, I'm

545
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Speaker 2: not getting it and then they die and I'm like,

546
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: what the fuck? So you know, we'll see anyway.

547
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Speaker 1: Seven nino percent say yes, nineteen percent say no, and

548
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: two percent say I am the unvaccinated friends of family

549
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Alicia says, they made that decision.

550
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Speaker 2: They got to live or die with it.

551
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: None of them are allergic to the vaccine or anything

552
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: like that. I would just be loving them from a distance.

553
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Angel says, I worry about the friends play cousins who

554
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: can't get vaccinated yet due to age. Luckily, my close

555
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: relatives are vaccinated. This delta variant is not playing games.

556
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I also worry about the unwashed will allow the variants

557
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: to mutate so much until they produce a variant that

558
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Speaker 1: can escape our vaccines. Hopefully, scientists are keeping an eye

559
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Speaker 1: on it and working on boosters to address the virus.

560
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Speaker 1: Sick of American selfishness in short, excightedness.

561
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shout out to Larry wilmore Land.

562
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Speaker 1: When he opened up the last episode of Black on

563
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: the Air, maybe the one before that, he talked about

564
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: American privilege, and I was like, to me, that is

565
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: the thing that I've felt the most during a lot

566
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: of this I'm not getting vaccinated talk has been this,

567
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm not getting vaccinated, but I expect to be okay

568
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: because I'm an American and I think we have a

569
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of safety nets for me. I think you'll get vaccinated.

570
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: The places that I go will do the right thing.

571
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: People will have to wear a mask. Also, I cannot

572
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Speaker 1: wear a mask. Also, I cannot get vaccinated. Also, I'm

573
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: gonna return to work. And I don't give a fuck

574
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Speaker 1: if hey, if I if i feel like I'm able

575
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: bodied enough to survive this having coronavirus, then fuck it,

576
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then fuck everybody else that

577
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: catches it from me and stuff like that, And I

578
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: think that's a very real thing. I read an article

579
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Speaker 1: in the Charlotte Observer, our local newspaper, that interviewed a

580
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: bunch of people that hadn't been vaccinated and asked him

581
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: why and all this stuff and there was people in

582
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: the article that was like, I been, I had COVID twice,

583
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: but I ain't putting no vaccine in my body because

584
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna do. It's like, wow,

585
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: well you do know when you had COVID, you didn't

586
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: know what COVID was gonna do to you twice and

587
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it don't take but one time for the COVID to

588
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, this time I'm killing you.

589
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: So I don't, you know, don't I don't know what

590
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: to tell people. Good luck though, good luck to you all.

591
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: Ms Barnes says, I had this battle with my son

592
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: over this very subject. His job is very high risk,

593
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and he has chosen the foolish mentality that if you're

594
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: healthy quote unquote, that you will not get the thrown up.

595
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about when I dropped him on his head

596
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: to think like this.

597
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: The last time that I talked to him, he was

598
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Speaker 1: deciding about taking the vaccine.

599
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Maybe the light bulb will go off at some point.

600
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't know, like people scared, And this

601
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: is not out of derision, like we're telling people because

602
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: we love him, right, you know, I wouldn't tell people

603
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: this shit if I didn't think it was the right

604
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: thing to do.

605
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: This isn't like let me chastise you and shame. It's

606
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: just like dog like.

607
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: We see a story every day of somebody that thought

608
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: they were straight and they just weren't agreed, and you

609
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: never know, you know, all right. We had episode twenty

610
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: three fifty four, Hell People, Heal People.

611
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: This is Mike Caplin's episode.

612
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 4: Fun episode.

613
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people were like responding on Twitter

614
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: and stuff about how much they liked it and stuff,

615
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: and we love that. I always love when we have

616
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: like a guest on that people resonate with. Mike's one

617
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: of those people that's very funny and thoughtful and uh,

618
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: just a good overall person. So he really is Angela

619
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: says hey Rod and came regarding that bigot Marjorie Green,

620
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that apology feels like a part of a larger plan.

621
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: How she can be that old and not know it's

622
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: beyond troubling. I also think she can shove that apology

623
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: or the sun don't shine. It is not a matter

624
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: of offense or offending anyone. Her racism and anti Semitism

625
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: causes real harm. Of offense can only occur. Offense can

626
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: can of course be evolved and feelings are important, but

627
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: being a racist during racism is more than hurting people

628
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: someone's feelings is about actual harm. People often try to

629
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: reduce the effects of racism to someone having hurt feelings.

630
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: It's one of the key.

631
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Tools they used to argue that racism is a systemic

632
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: it's just individuals hurting over other individuals feelings. Yep, absolutely, Agela,

633
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: everything you said in that spot on, I can't agree more.

634
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: And I just don't think the thing like with Margie

635
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Taylor Green, that's a good example we talk about apologies.

636
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: That's a person who I never really see her changing

637
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: her actions to even have a moment to go maybe

638
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: this apology is real, because it's like you say, wild shit,

639
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: you trafficking anti Semitic stuff constantly. One apology is never

640
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna make me go, Well, I guess she's not gonna

641
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: do that anymore, because also it's not in her interest.

642
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: She won't get reelected if.

643
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: She truly turns over some type of belief and becomes

644
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: like this anti racist or unracist person. So it's hard

645
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: to believe this. And you know, we'll see, right like

646
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: we will see. I can't imagine I hope she proves

647
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: me wrong, but I doubt she will because I just

648
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: don't think she's the kind of person that really believes

649
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: she was wrong in those instances. I really think she

650
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: just said shit for political expedience. As evidenced by her

651
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: other apology was she apologized quote unquote for her behavior

652
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: when she.

653
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Was getting stripped of her committee.

654
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Position, and then as soon as she got stripped of it,

655
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: she went back to like fuck y'all in yes and

656
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: you know and threatening AOC and all this shit. That's

657
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: not a person that has a good track record with

658
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Agreed Ev says, I think Karen contributes

659
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot to the show, especially bad puns and her

660
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Speaker 1: support of Arby's.

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Speaker 2: You've been on fire lately, Karen, and I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully ap not reporting eve E is head of the

663
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Speaker 1: eve E is the evangelical that just is supporting Trump.

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Speaker 1: Just they don't care that he's fucking these models. It

665
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: don't matter what the evidence.

666
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: Saying, even egos to put heck out.

667
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Karen doesn't say she actively hates Rvey's so therefore cares

668
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the good ones she could, even if she's lying and

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00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: she does hate it.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully AP not reporting.

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: Man, the crimes won't affect Guess the Race too much

672
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: because really some of those crimes and Guess the Race

673
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: are quite major.

674
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: Just has a funny element to it.

675
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Plus there's always was our news that would probably still

676
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: cover them.

677
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: Either way, the show will still be great.

678
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it won't. Yeah, it won't come. It won't change.

679
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: We don't really even get those stories in the AP.

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Speaker 2: It was just a joke.

681
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but they do make a good point

682
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Speaker 1: that you shouldn't put that that news out there. That's

683
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: a good point. Can Hell hell people heal people? Yes

684
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Speaker 1: or no?

685
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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Eighty six percent of I'm surprised by this support by

687
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Speaker 1: this response, But eighty six percent of the audience says yes.

688
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I was surprised because on my Facebook page when I

689
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: asked that question, it was mostly nos and like no,

690
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: this is like this is even a ridiculous question to ask.

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Speaker 2: Of course that's not fourteen percent say no.

692
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Speaker 1: Mara says, yes, I believe hell people can help people,

693
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Speaker 1: and also people who are healing can heal others.

694
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Speaker 2: That's the real Yeah, that's the realty. That last part.

695
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Speaker 1: No one is totally and completely healed, living in practice

696
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: of healing and offering healing to others is a very

697
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Speaker 1: special place to be. It benefits both the healer and

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Speaker 1: the person being healed. This you put four question marks,

699
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Speaker 1: which I don't know what the question marks for, because.

700
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Speaker 2: I thought those are pretty good statements features.

701
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Speaker 1: And the thing I would even say too is like

702
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to get that even to it.

703
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Speaker 2: But yeah, no one's healed. Everyone's in a state of flux. Everyone.

704
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're upping you down. You're upping you down.

705
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: You could be feeling healed, and then someone can do

706
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Speaker 1: something else and hurts you in a different way, you know,

707
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Like things happen, And I think a lot of the

708
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Speaker 1: work that it requires to what we see people like

709
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: helping folks is someone taking on the task of I've

710
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: learned from this thing, and now I want to help you.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's weird.

712
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: People say that's impossible, but I don't know a person

713
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: alive that hasn't had somebody help them through a tough time,

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Speaker 1: get through something.

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Speaker 3: So so there's nothing that you've ever been through your

716
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Speaker 3: life that you didn't have depend on anybody.

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Speaker 2: Nobody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they think I'm int it

719
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: like a video game where you just touch the person

720
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: and then it's like back to one hundred percent.

721
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Speaker 2: Help.

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Speaker 4: It's a slewth I'm a witness. Is a slew take years,

723
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: sometimes decades to get over shited?

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Speaker 1: Episode twenty three, fifty five Old Dog New Tricks.

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Speaker 2: We had three comments.

726
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Speaker 1: Dizzy Lizzie Gal says Karen's PTSD from church had me

727
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: dying laughing As a former Seventh Day Adventist, I could relate.

728
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Lol.

729
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I still frown for a moment when I see bare

730
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: arms and legs in church on TV, even though I

731
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: haven't been in a church in almost ten years.

732
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Speaker 2: That indoctrination is hard to shake.

733
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that stuff don't then bother me. Yeah, I don't.

734
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 4: I don't mind being arms. I don't mind arm pits.

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Speaker 4: You know.

736
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Speaker 3: It's shit like that when you're like doubt, like, uh, yeah,

737
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Speaker 3: we're not gonna be all wrapped up in his ninety

738
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Speaker 3: degrees in here.

739
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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Troubadour underscored De says, Hey, guys, love the show. Just

741
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: wanted to say. Karen was absolutely in her bag this episode.

742
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: I was dying multiple times. Her playing game has gotten

743
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: so good and eve, he says. Kevin Hart says a

744
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of problematic things, especially about the LGBTQ community, so

745
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: its take on cancel culture isn't surprising. I think he

746
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: equates valid criticism with trying to be canceled, which is

747
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: ridiculous because practically no one gets canceled except Kylin Kaepernick

748
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Speaker 1: and Chris at Michelle.

749
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: For someone who claims.

750
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: To be so unbothered about other people's opinion, his skin

751
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: short seems then I definitely agree one hundred percent with

752
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: that last sentence, which is why I was saying I

753
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: just don't believe him when he says he doesn't give

754
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: a fucking shit. It's like, you keep talking about this,

755
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: you do.

756
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: Give a fuck, because if you didn't, you wouldn't keep

757
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: bringing it up.

758
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think there's a societal people

759
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: see a lot of value in folks going I don't

760
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I don't give a fuck, but so

761
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: rarely is it true. And also it's not always a

762
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: good thing to not.

763
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Speaker 2: Give a fuck.

764
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: That's a true statement too.

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Speaker 1: And you can be into now all about something because

766
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Speaker 1: you're pretending you don't give a fuck with really it's

767
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: like I do care, and I will be able to

768
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: really solve this thing, or really sit down and think

769
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Speaker 1: this thing through. You know, it's like how I talk

770
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: about Twitter and social media a lot, because one I'm

771
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: on it for just the job a lot.

772
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Speaker 2: We're all stuck in the house.

773
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Speaker 1: Everyone's on it, you know, a decent amount just about

774
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, you're probably on it.

775
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: But I don't come on here and just be like

776
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Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about it in that type of way,

778
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Speaker 1: because it's like I do care because.

779
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be talking about it right, you know what

780
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

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00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Like if it comes up, because I do look at

782
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: it and think like how is is affecting people?

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00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: And what?

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00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: You know, this is such a big part of our

785
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: society and all this stuff and what does it mean?

786
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: And when can it be harnessed for good? When is

787
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: it fueling things that are bad? You know, stuff like that.

788
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: I think it does matter. And I think for him particularly,

789
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that he says a lot of problematic

790
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Speaker 1: things about LGBTQ community.

791
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Speaker 2: I don't even think.

792
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Speaker 1: What's funniest, I don't even think he says a lot

793
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: of problematic stuff. That's what's so crazy about Kevin Hart

794
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: and while I think this is so weird because he

795
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: seems to be the type where, even if he believes

796
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: a lot of problematic shit, he's not the kind of

797
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: comedian that's like my whole my style is to come

798
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: out here and be controversial and problematic and be edgy

799
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: and offend everybody. He doesn't even really do that style

800
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: of comedy. So it's so weird for him to have

801
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: taken on this this personally when I think, well, I

802
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: think he's taking it on because he really wants everyone

803
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: to like him.

804
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: And that's the only way I can explain it, Like.

805
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: He wanted to He's kind of like me in a friendship.

806
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: When I'm friends with somebody, I want to be able

807
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: to make jokes about you when you make jokes about me,

808
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: And the beauty of it is that we're friends, so

809
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: we know that it's just a joke, right, Like I

810
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: know you wouldn't hurt me because it's a joke where

811
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, And that's to me, the true intimacy is

812
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: I can point out that you did something silly and

813
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: you don't get defensive and you start yelling at me,

814
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: and shit, that's intimacy. And I think a lot of

815
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: these comedians think of themselves as having this intimacy with

816
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: the audience and everyone else to where they go, Yeah,

817
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I said this fucked up thing, but y'all know I'm

818
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: so funny and y'all like me so much that it's

819
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: like we're family, and I'm making this joke and it's

820
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: not gonna hurt anybody's feelings because you all know I'm

821
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: just joking. But that's impossible, agreed, especially when you famous,

822
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: like really beg and famous. Too many people have seen

823
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: your shit to feel like it's all family. So some

824
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: people are gonna see your shit and be like, no,

825
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't like this, and I don't trust you and

826
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't know you. And I think he really never

827
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: got over there. I think that Chapelle never got over that.

828
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these, one of the white

829
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: dudes who are like the I make offensive comedy, you cooks,

830
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: all of them never got over it. They just want

831
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: everyone to like them and they feel entitled to that,

832
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: and when they don't get it, it has to be

833
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: everyone's fault with their own anyway. But yeah, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's even weirder to me that he has taken this

835
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Speaker 1: on and the last thing I'll say is the when

836
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Speaker 1: you said no one gets canceled except Kyler, Kabnick, Chris

837
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Speaker 1: hat Michelle. I think canceled has about four or five

838
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: different meanings in pop culture right now, and that's why

839
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Speaker 1: everyone's talking past each other. I think a person like

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Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, when he's talking about they tried to cancel me,

841
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: what he really means is he received backlash, fair or unfair.

842
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: I think fair to what he does. And he was like,

843
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: I did X amount of years in comedy with no

844
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: one having backlash to me, no one ever trying to

845
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: call me out, none of the communities I've offended, reaching

846
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Speaker 1: out and having a platform, and now all of a sudden,

847
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm facing that, and to me, that feels bad. That's

848
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: what he's really saying when he says they tried to

849
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: cancel me, because obviously this is one of the guys

850
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: doing the most prolific workers in Hollywood. He's clearly not

851
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: losing career opportunity with Yeah, the job that he lost

852
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: quote unquote that I don't even know if it pays

853
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: was hosting like the Oscars, and in that case he

854
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: stepped down because he was too proud to do it.

855
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone would say. I mean a

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00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: lot of people with bad faith arguments would say he

857
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: was canceled. But I think any result person would be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't canceled.

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Speaker 2: He just decided not to do that shit. Agreed all right, And.

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Speaker 1: The poe was, do you think Kevin Hart cares about

861
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Speaker 1: being canceled?

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00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

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Speaker 1: Seventy eight percent say yes, twenty two percent say no. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think the cynical take could

865
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Speaker 1: be he doesn't really care, but he just keeps talking

866
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Speaker 1: about it because he, you know, some type of arrogance

867
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: or ego stuff, but which could.

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Speaker 2: Be possible, but he sounded like he cared. I think

869
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Speaker 2: he's really hurt.

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Speaker 1: And with most people, when they hurt, they think they

871
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: hurt is the only hurt that matters.

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Speaker 2: You heard a lot of people with the shit.

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Speaker 4: That's a statement. Yes.

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Speaker 1: The voicemail line seven oh four five five seven zero

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Speaker 1: one eighty six is the voicemail line. We got a

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Speaker 1: couple of voicemails here. Let's get to these and check

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Speaker 1: them out.

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Speaker 5: Hey, raving Karen, this is Peaches seven four nine, So

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Speaker 5: I'm listening to the show. Number twenty three fifty four

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00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 5: with Mike Kaplan and y'all are talking about the reading

881
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: rainbow segment, and I just wanted to say how much

882
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the reading rainbow segment and that I

883
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: was cracking up when you was reading that person's comment

884
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: about how they hated it, and so therefore you was

885
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 5: gonna make sure we had to reading rainbow segment and

886
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 5: I was loving it. I was loving it, but then

887
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: you did the switch up, and like, I'm a person

888
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: that gets stuck and like doesn't like change, So you know,

889
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: I did appreciate that there was a change in the show,

890
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I really missed the eating

891
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: rainbow segment and I would be real happy if you

892
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: brought it back. So yeah, I had to pull up

893
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: the show and make that comment. Love you guys, and

894
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Speaker 5: now I will continue with stepisodes.

895
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Speaker 6: Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Love you two peaches, And yes, we uh

897
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Speaker 1: brought it back. And like I said, because it felt

898
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: like a it felt like a Rube's cube to me,

899
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: like that person wrote that email.

900
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, I.

901
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to assume bad faith. I

902
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: don't want to assume that troller. I mean, they could be,

903
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: but I just didn't want to assume that because you know,

904
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Speaker 1: hopefully people have good intentions when they do that stuff.

905
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: But I was like, well, what is missing?

906
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: Like what what has changed that would make someone feel

907
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: like Karen's not giving her getting her space or she

908
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: needs her own segment even though we've never like it's

909
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: not like we took away a segment and now it's like,

910
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: oh no, Karen doesn't have her segment. Why did y'all

911
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: stop doing that? But then I was like, I said,

912
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Speaker 1: it was racking my brain. I talked to a few people,

913
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: me and Karen talked about it, and then I thought,

914
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: reading Rainbow, that's that's the one, Like, I bet you

915
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: if we just brought that back, it would help a lot.

916
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: And yes, obviously it's harder to do it, like we

917
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: probably won't do it when we have guests, but and

918
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: probably not every show, but just a lot more often

919
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: than we were. And even if it's some retread stuff

920
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, that's fine.

921
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll get I get in my own.

922
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: Head about that stuff, like you know, like, oh, do

923
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: people really want to hear us talk about this topic again?

924
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: But sometimes those those things branch out into completely other topics,

925
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: and I think people like that also.

926
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Speaker 3: How I felt about it two years from now, I

927
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: might have a different perspective today.

928
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Speaker 1: That's a yeah, that's another great point. So yeah, that's

929
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Speaker 1: we're definitely bringing it back.

930
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Speaker 2: We got a call from a friend. You might even

931
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Speaker 2: recognize a Voicecaren.

932
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Speaker 6: What ride and hearing all high and so long as

933
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Speaker 6: that class in all the musical theater talk. I just

934
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Speaker 6: told me from out of the darkness, I think, like,

935
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Speaker 6: I don't really go up for Manuel Miranda. But the

936
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Speaker 6: funny thing to me about in the hinds is that

937
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Speaker 6: they took the anti blackness out of the original plot

938
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Speaker 6: of the musical, and I could just see them in

939
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Speaker 6: a room somewhere patting themselves on the back for removing

940
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: that or even being like, I want to take a

941
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 6: step forward and you know, avoid the woke mobs coming

942
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 6: after us, so I'm don't just take this part out

943
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 6: and I just didn't work. But as always, I looked

944
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 6: to y'all for some salient points about things, and I'm

945
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 6: just really happy to be a friend and a listener

946
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 6: of the show, and I feel like y'all were always,

947
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 6: as always on point.

948
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: About every said about the criticism.

949
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Speaker 6: All right, love.

950
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Speaker 1: You the official Thesbian of the podcasts I Haven't Forgotten.

951
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: Also coming up soon, well, her and Reggie will be

952
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: back on the show. Yay, you know, looking forward to that.

953
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, you know, like one of the things

954
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: I try to be mindful of is the fact that

955
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: some shit is not in our purview, right, we don't

956
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: know everything about it, and so I try to give

957
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: credit where it's due. And then also just the fact

958
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: that when it comes to a lot of this stuff,

959
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even a fan of musicals like that to

960
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: be giving people some expert level of opinion, I didn't

961
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Speaker 1: see you already brought up the play.

962
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the play.

963
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is that is interesting because it is

964
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: a good thing. If they had an anti black element

965
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: of the play and they took it out, that is

966
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: a good thing. It does mean that they care, It

967
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: does mean they're paying attention. But you didn't really see

968
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people bringing that up at all. And

969
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: it is relevant because it's some level of improvement, but

970
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: it might not just be enough for people, which you

971
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: know obviously wasn't right. But yeah, shout out to lin

972
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Manuel and in the Heights, I mean, it's gonna be

973
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: a very conflicting I mean everything on Twitter is like that,

974
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a very conflicting time when the

975
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: War season comes out, because if it is groundbreaking and

976
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: getting the awards, people are gonna be like kind of

977
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: against it. But then it also was kind of groundbreaking.

978
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: It's that right, you know, it's it's crazy rich agents

979
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: all over again, same directors where the people were like, yeah,

980
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: but the representation for dark skinned Asian people was not

981
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: there and it wasn't good, and yeah, you're gonna have that.

982
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: And I really would like to see what he's gonna do, Uh,

983
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: if he's gonna try to make it any better with

984
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: his next project, if that's something he will.

985
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: Look at, because you know, he's to the point where

986
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: he's going to get more projects, so people are going

987
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: to keep the eye out on him to see what

988
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: happens in his next project.

989
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some emails. The best podcast on the Internet.

990
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: This is from Eddie.

991
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: Aka Sasha, who says, hey, Roding Karen, I'm a longtime

992
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: listener from London, UK and.

993
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh well he cross the pond appreciate.

994
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: Me and just wanted to show a message of appreciation

995
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: to you both. I just signed up to Premium for

996
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: the year and I'm loving listening to the first to

997
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: the first nerd Off and walking Dad recass. I rewatching

998
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: to get skills to fight if required to fight toilet

999
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Speaker 1: rolls in this Panoramo.

1000
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Speaker 3: Pocalyst I always got to be prepared, be prepared all times.

1001
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I say you are the best podcasts on the Internet, sincerely,

1002
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: because no other can make me burst out laughing while

1003
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: slipping British tea when Karen makes a witty remark, keep

1004
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: me up to day on the news, and then also

1005
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: teach me so much about the nuances of racism, all

1006
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: in the way that is so genuine and very very funny.

1007
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1008
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for speaking up and supported to b t

1009
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Q plus issues for the black to the black community.

1010
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: As a non binary, queer, pan sexual person, you've helped

1011
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: me accept who I am and you will never know

1012
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: the amazing impact you have in the black community to

1013
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: change hards and minds on this I work in the

1014
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: National Health Service NHS and used to teach equality and

1015
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: diversity to clinicians, and I must say I've learned so

1016
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: much from you about how.

1017
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: To explain these issues to white people mostly.

1018
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: I wish I could make you compulsory listening to the

1019
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: NHS staff.

1020
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, you don't want to get don't do that.

1021
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you don't get fired.

1022
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: No, we want you to keep your good paying job.

1023
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: Right, How we gonna get money if you're not getting it?

1024
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Look like, filter our ship

1025
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: through your lens and then just say what we said,

1026
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: yes in the ways.

1027
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: That won't get you fired. Because if you go in

1028
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: there calling people.

1029
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: Niggas translator, yeah, if you if you go in there

1030
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: and be like I think a lot of y'all niggas

1031
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: is homophobia, they're gonna be like, can we talk to

1032
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: you in the office room quick? But yeah, So that's

1033
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: they're going to say, yeah, but I might get in trouble.

1034
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Most recently, I worked on delivering the vaccine program in

1035
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: England and I was shocked how many black people, including

1036
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: friends and family, were hesitant as it affected them the most.

1037
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: And I borrowed the style of laying down the facts

1038
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: and science mixed with humor to convince a few people

1039
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated.

1040
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: Keep on preaching, yo.

1041
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: That's great man, job, that's great to hear because we're.

1042
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, we're one.

1043
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Across the pond obviously two. That's a very like it's

1044
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: one of those things where like we do what we do,

1045
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: but we never really know if and who is listening,

1046
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: what's changing, if it's helping people or if it's not

1047
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: helping people. And it's really through y'all's feedback that we learn.

1048
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: Any of this shit.

1049
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: Is like if it could me and Karen sit in

1050
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: this room. We have us in the chat room and

1051
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: that's it, and that's it. If people write in and go, hey,

1052
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: this is helping. I was able to convince my family.

1053
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: We have a few people say that all anyone. If

1054
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: we convinced one person to get the vaccine through the show,

1055
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: that's positive to me for real though, So thank you.

1056
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: There's so much more I could say, but I know

1057
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: you hate long messages.

1058
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: We really don't. I just wanted to say you are.

1059
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: Appreciated across the world and have truly helped me through

1060
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: my lowest moments, lifting my spirits. It always made me laugh.

1061
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I will keep representing the blackoutipts across the pond and

1062
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: everyone to everyone I meet, keep up the amazing work

1063
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: and being a gift to the world by being your

1064
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: amazing self. Much love from your Britain on behalf of

1065
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: the Queen from Eddie aka Sasha ps And case you're wondering,

1066
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: guess the race style. I am mixed rates light skinn

1067
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Speaker 1: did it just like justin but truly believe whatever shade

1068
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: we are are one.

1069
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: Much love x all.

1070
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, appreciate you and good luck out there

1071
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: with the NHS and getting people vaccinated. And anti blackness

1072
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: is global, so it would make sense that there would

1073
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: be a lot of hesitancy no matter where black people

1074
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: are located in the world with the vaccines, except for

1075
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: partly of the places where it's like deprived right now.

1076
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: Now there's probably people like I'll take that shit, get

1077
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: hurry up, Like well, let's take us a long.

1078
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Speaker 1: Angela says hey, Rod and Karen episode twenty three fifty

1079
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Speaker 1: seven In the Whites, your discussion regarding to June Team

1080
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Speaker 1: programming had me thinking about how I and many black

1081
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Speaker 1: people walk through.

1082
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Speaker 2: This world because of white supremacies effect on me.

1083
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty distrustful on how they approached us and I

1084
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: shared United States history. Also, I didn't know anything about

1085
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: the plantation. I immediately thought the site manager was a

1086
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: white person who was about to mess up and decenter

1087
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Speaker 1: us from our history.

1088
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Speaker 2: Yet again, I think most people assume that right away.

1089
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: I think you will be hard pressed to find people

1090
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: who would admit it right now.

1091
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think.

1092
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: Almost I thought it was white too.

1093
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Speaker 2: At first I did too.

1094
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: I think all the controversy started from a place of

1095
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: this white man wants to do this, or these white

1096
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: people want to do this to us, and then once

1097
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: that ball was rolling, it was impossible to change because

1098
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: I think Ian or Ian Horry says it. I think

1099
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: he thought it would be enough to go, hey, y'all,

1100
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm black, I'm not a coon. Can y'all please stop,

1101
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: and that people will go, oh, okay, well you probably

1102
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: were gonna do a good thing, and we just didn't understand.

1103
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: I think that's not enough. People were like, and well,

1104
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: we already decided this is bad, so you were gonna

1105
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: do it the bad way. White people are often in

1106
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: those positions, and they always seem to leave out our

1107
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: real history e g.

1108
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: Moult Vernon tours.

1109
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: It is almost impossible as a black person to invest

1110
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: our trust, be vulnerable and not jump to that conclusion

1111
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: that white folks were playing in our faces.

1112
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: When I found out he was black, I felt some relief.

1113
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: For about two seconds until I started to worry that

1114
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: he was a Tam Scott coon. It is hard to

1115
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: live in such a closed and suspicious emotional state, but

1116
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: it's also hard to be completely open to all kinds

1117
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: of abuse, insults, hurt, and disappointment they invariably come our way.

1118
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: At the same time, this was an overreaction and people

1119
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: aren't even listening after explain the program, Yeah, and I

1120
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: think all of that stuff you just said is valid too, right,

1121
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: because I think what's funny is I feel like I

1122
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: went through all of those same steps in this at

1123
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: a different conclusion than a lot of people, because I

1124
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Rod, breathe for a second, what's more

1125
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: likely this dude's been doing this work this whole time.

1126
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Decided fuck it, I'm going all in on white people now.

1127
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't I actually want to say that the real

1128
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: victims of the Civil War and all this stuff. And

1129
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: in addition to that, when I'm confronted about it, I

1130
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: will then flip and pretend that I was doing it

1131
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: for black people, and I was actually going to make

1132
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: a very pro black thing, even though I wasn't because

1133
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: I just want to keep gas light in the community

1134
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: and I don't care about losing my job, and I'll

1135
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: refuse to apologize because I'm you know, because I'm just

1136
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: like a ha ha ha, look at me over my cauldron,

1137
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: fucking with the black community. Like to me, I was

1138
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: like that, it's like, I'm not saying it's impossible.

1139
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: That seems very far fetched to me.

1140
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: And I thought what was more than likely was he

1141
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: was did he put out that original description. People did

1142
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: not have that kind of trust right now to be

1143
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: given out and I don't blame them, but they said, yeah,

1144
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: we assuming the worst and you need to respond to

1145
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: this right away, stop what you're doing and convince us

1146
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna do this program that we're now

1147
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: saying it's.

1148
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: Gonna be horrible.

1149
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: And I think by the time he addressed it, which

1150
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: was on like two or three days after the people

1151
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: on Facebook and the mayor and all these people that

1152
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: went on social media, even which I do believe is

1153
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: telling the truth. But even if he was telling the truth,

1154
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: I just don't think it mattered no more. And I

1155
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: completely felt his side of things because I'm like, yeah,

1156
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: it sucks because the environment is so untrusting. You essentially

1157
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: are as soon to be a coon until proven otherwise.

1158
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that most of these people don't support you,

1159
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: don't support what you do, they won't come visit the plantation.

1160
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: The people that popped on top of this that were like,

1161
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, news outlets and all the stuff, many of them,

1162
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: he said, did not reach out to him, you know,

1163
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: the mayor didn't reach out to him before making this,

1164
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: like these comments on Twitter. And I think once that

1165
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: became set in stone, that became the truth for everybody,

1166
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: because it's like, we have all agreed this man is

1167
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: out here to try to destroy the black community. And

1168
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a way off of that for

1169
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: most people because because then they had to go, well,

1170
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: maybe we overreacted and maybe we should go watching to see,

1171
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: like people are gonna protest. I don't know if they did,

1172
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: but they were planning to go protest, and why he counseled.

1173
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: It because he was like, people are going to come

1174
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: in for the event and then they got to walk

1175
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 3: through y'all protesting.

1176
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't you know, I don't know one

1177
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent if they did or not, because that would

1178
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: have happened today, And I did see where people sounded

1179
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: in the news article like they still were going to

1180
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: protest despite but uh yeah, anyway, So anyway, like to

1181
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: say I have empathy for black people, I would never just.

1182
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: Be like, you know, you stoopid motherfuckers.

1183
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Like I get why people felt that, and like I said,

1184
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: ultimately now that we'll get into the rest of it.

1185
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: But matter of fact, I'll keep reading the site is

1186
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: losing all kinds of funding and people are still protesting.

1187
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: It almost feels like a setup, like people don't like

1188
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: this guy and want to replace him.

1189
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: He was criticized for a.

1190
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: School trip where black kids were allegedly asked to assume

1191
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: the role of enslaved person, So it feels like there's

1192
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: some history of running at this guy. I don't know

1193
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: what the circumstances or the instance were, but it feels

1194
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: like stuff was about to go down.

1195
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: It did go down, But.

1196
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: That being said, I did some search on the plantation's

1197
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: website as of today, and they do rent the site

1198
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: for weddings and birthday parties. Funny how no one is protesting,

1199
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: cutting funding or contract contacting the news stations about that.

1200
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

1201
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I definitely rolled my eyes because I thought they didn't

1202
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff there.

1203
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 2: But after the show, I looked up.

1204
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I googled them in weddings and it was like, oh wait,

1205
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: there's weddings that have happened here, and I was like

1206
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: it's someone I was talking to after the on my

1207
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: phase book page was like, yeah, they do actually do

1208
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: weddings there, and I was like, okay, yeah, well fuck it,

1209
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: burn it down because like I was really like, then

1210
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: that means if you're gonna get new management in that

1211
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: will put a stop to that and make it more

1212
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: of a like more of a historical like this is

1213
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: what happens on plantations.

1214
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: This is a place of a lot of black pain.

1215
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: I would appreciate that more than what they do that currently,

1216
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, cause I'm like, I get why it is

1217
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: what it is, and that dude probably fought tooth and

1218
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: nail just to even have parts of it be about

1219
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: slavery down here, because white people are very much in

1220
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: denial of how slavery was, how brutal it was, how

1221
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: real it was. So I guarantee you he had to

1222
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: fight for that. But what's the point of fighting for

1223
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: that if tomorrow they doing a wedding, you know, like

1224
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: it's just sending the wrong message. And so I hope

1225
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: whatever the new management is now that Charlotte is a

1226
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: black mayor black you know a lot of black people

1227
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: on city council, kind of.

1228
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: Liberal leaning city. I hope whoever.

1229
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the county that does this, by the way,

1230
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: but I hope whoever takes over is more the militant

1231
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: type of person, because that would really make me want

1232
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: to go out there and see and throw on the

1233
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: tour as opposed to you know, the ship where.

1234
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna hell still do weddings and stuff.

1235
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you're going to be mad, you need

1236
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: to be mad about that too. What was the protesting,

1237
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: What was the anger? Where was this kind of backlashing?

1238
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: In my mind, you didn't care, like off the side

1239
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: some people did. The majority of people angry didn't give

1240
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: a fuck, didn't care, wasn't going to see it, didn't

1241
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: even know what it existed to. This article came out

1242
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: and just like a lot of shit that happens, a

1243
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: lot of people being angry and protesting do not live

1244
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: in this goddamn city.

1245
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: It is very frustrating to find out that they've been

1246
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: doing weddings and civil war reenactments and shit, and nobody

1247
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: had a problem with it until this Dude's okay to

1248
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: his description of his event, which was not which was

1249
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: kind of tongue in cheek, But it's like I said.

1250
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, though, I'm smart enough

1251
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: to know, like.

1252
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: His goal could not have been let's lose all our

1253
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: funding and ended up getting kicked out, so that not

1254
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: being his goal, and I think he should have he

1255
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: finally should have taken a softer tone, probably should have

1256
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: apologized all that stuff, just for the fact that who's

1257
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: helped by Now you're not you don't have a job,

1258
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: and you're not there. Yes, you know, because for all

1259
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: I know, the next people to take this shit over

1260
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: might be like, this shit is just for weddings and parties.

1261
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: We're not doing any of that shit.

1262
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, cut the tours and everything.

1263
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1264
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: The last person they try to take that on end

1265
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: up getting fired. The next people might just be like,

1266
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: this is just a beautiful place to get married. And

1267
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like nothing positive would have come

1268
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: out of all of this, you know, So I hope

1269
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: that that that that's not what happens. Thanks is always

1270
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: for the thought provoking discussion, the fun times. I always

1271
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 1: look forward to your podcast Edgela. Thanks Angela, thank you.

1272
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1273
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: And trust is difficult, man, Trust is difficult now in

1274
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: this environment, especially with social media. No almost no one

1275
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: assumes positive the first time you hear something. Michael Barbara

1276
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: must be a fan of Michelle Wright said, Hey Rider, Karen,

1277
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: hope you're doing well during this Perry Pebbles read. I

1278
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: started every morning going through my podcast descriptions to add

1279
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: to my Q and Spotify. Today I saw The Daily

1280
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: did an episode on Ralph Northrom, the governor of Virginia.

1281
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: You have been talking about what's happening in Virginia for months.

1282
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: So maybe someone with The New York Times a fan

1283
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: of the blackoutists love Yourshelle. Thanks Michelle say for your

1284
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: lists of God's Ears.

1285
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if we got enough.

1286
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: Pull to be on the New York Times, like their

1287
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: staff might listen to an episode or two. But I mean,

1288
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: Ralph been putting in that work and deserves to be recognized.

1289
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: Yes he does, And like I said to him, I

1290
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: would absolutely vote for that dude for president and if

1291
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: he ran, because I really think his track record and

1292
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: the heartbeat over the last like four years or so

1293
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: has been stellar, and uh yeah, that dude is on it.

1294
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: I really I look at Virginians with envy now, like

1295
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: look at this.

1296
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: What else y'all got out there? Legalized? We what they're

1297
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: letting people out of out of jail for low offenses.

1298
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: Ain't letting vote fellas vote? What?

1299
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1300
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: What?

1301
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: Doug the day off of voting? Charles Rice and Hey

1302
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: Roding care.

1303
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: Y'all want my mind?

1304
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to drop you a line or recently was

1305
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: awarded my first principal contract and we'll be leading in

1306
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: elementary school starting July.

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Speaker 4: First, come on through contract.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, Black capitalism, Come on. It took a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to get here, and I want to thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: You've been in my ear through a lot of lesson planning,

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01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: I EP writing, planning, a professional development review, that reviewing,

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Speaker 1: data grading papers.

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Speaker 2: Hell, you're even here in my ears.

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Speaker 1: Right now as I sit in this hospital waiting for

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Speaker 1: my wife to bring our daughter into the world.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Your commitment to consistency and quality is unmatched. And podcasting

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Speaker 1: the show has always pushed my thinking and kept me

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: sharp on the arriety of topics and issues. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: y'all and I'm glad to have you in my ears

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Speaker 1: on this next leg of the journey. Regards Chuck, Thank you, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: thank you that is that is you know, And congratulations

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Speaker 1: on the child and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What a sweet way to end the week. This is

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Speaker 2: why feedback is so fun.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sir Andrew Wright saying, fucking with black people, Love

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Speaker 1: you guys and the show. So this happened today, the

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Speaker 1: day after Joe Biden declared June tenth the holiday. My

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Speaker 1: coworker and employees bought an assortment of fruit for breakfast.

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01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: At lunch, we provided wings from Buffalo wil Wings. There

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Speaker 1: is a chalkboard in the break room where people usually

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Speaker 1: messages when people bring snacks.

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Speaker 2: The message was left today was happy gen teenth. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Lida leader coordinated the snacks and the food. This is

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01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: what I found at three pm. Your cards needless say

1337
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: I went home early. So I'm gonna show y'all a

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Speaker 1: picture of what he found. What they found.

1339
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: At his job, so y'all can see this.

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Speaker 1: So someone took the Happy June team and rubbed it

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Speaker 1: with chalk to Mark try to take the June teenth

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Speaker 1: off the board.

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 2: So it just has happy scratched out.

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Speaker 1: June teen, Thank you leader, smiley face. So yeah, he

1345
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: was like, I went home early. Yeah, I don't blame you.

1346
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: Whoever did that, Like someone should report that the HR

1347
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: because it's that microaggressive passive aggressive where they can be like, oh,

1348
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: I ain't mean nothing bout I just thought I don't

1349
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Speaker 1: know who did that, but they it should be so inconvenient.

1350
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: They should make everybody have.

1351
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: To do like diversity trading some other inconvenient shit that

1352
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: just would teach people like lead people alone, Like this

1353
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: shit wasn't hurting you in no type of way.

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: You just had to go fuck with somebody's day for what.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that when it say July fourth or

1356
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck is going on that board.

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Speaker 2: Next time, we'll say happy Independence Day.

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's why people like me going, this is

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Speaker 3: why I'm glad I'm not in office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ezach, well come back to the office so we

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Speaker 2: can do this kind of shit.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I would show. I would read this show everybody,

1364
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: but it's so wun GANKI. This is not your Instagram,

1365
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: he wrote in with a vacation picture, he said, just

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Speaker 1: writing then, so I love my tippin ask community and

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Speaker 1: to thank you a care for creating it, but also

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: the stunt on y'all niggas.

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Speaker 2: One more time, witness.

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Speaker 1: The firepower that's fully on the operational sunset. And then

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Speaker 1: he wanted me to show everybody. I'm like, niggas stuck

1372
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Speaker 1: on your Instagram, your place, you do a very professional

1373
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: serial podcast.

1374
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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah, playing too much?

1375
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: I want y'all to see right, stunty.

1376
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Y'all gonna get this sunset? You better make it your

1377
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: avatar picture from what the hell?

1378
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: People?

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Speaker 4: That's hilarious right now?

1380
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Speaker 7: Stupid, this is absolutely ridiculous. Get out of here. Clear,

1381
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 7: this is ridiculous.

1382
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 6: Hip the crap.

1383
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: Make the rest of us right. Niggas gonna start sending

1384
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: there pictures eight cars and ship. Look this my boyfriend.

1385
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: He got a six back ass. Just show the chat, bro.

1386
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I showed the chat getting fed up or y'all always

1387
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: being right. This is from Tennoche, who says, hi, Rod

1388
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Speaker 1: and Karen, thank you for the podcast political and social commentary.

1389
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: I will get straight into it. Y'all were right, ridiculously

1390
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: spot on. These niggas is fighting Okay, let me break

1391
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: this down. The folks at the Young Turks aka Church

1392
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: of Bernie are in broad and yet another epic civil

1393
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: war years ago. They employed this comedian quote unquote Jimmy Door,

1394
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: the one who's been cashing in on attacking Alc in

1395
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: the Squad and the debacle. The Young Turks folks took

1396
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: Alec side. This put them in odds with Door and

1397
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: his army of soft court. Alright, fans, so these niggas

1398
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: have been going back and forth online for almost a year.

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: For a short period of time, the Door people were

1401
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: attacking Joe from the left, but as y'all said on

1402
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: the podcast, Joe white manness makes it makes him impervious

1403
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: to criticism. The YouTube algorithm does not reward attacking Joe,

1404
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: so they turned to attacking Alc, who for a time

1405
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: it worked as Alc wind about their feelings being hurt,

1406
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: something y'all also covered on the podcast. The squad went

1407
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: on the dump Door and his trolls in the basket

1408
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: of the plorables, ignoring them completely.

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 4: That's what you need to have to do.

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, dog, I don't think you'll The people

1411
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: who are were upset with them in twenty twenty and

1412
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, some of that was valid.

1413
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to argue.

1414
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: Against it, but I don't think people will give them

1415
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: credit for doing a much better job in twenty twenty one.

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 4: Yes, they've been so much better.

1417
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 3: Like they they.

1418
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Have been able to be more specific in their critiques

1419
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: and even the ones where you might feel like this

1420
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: is them going too far or whatever, to me, it's

1421
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: not as ridiculous as it used to be, Like because

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: they were catering to that crowd, and you could tell

1423
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: that that that Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Dore type of crowd,

1424
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: that Brianna Breejoy type crowd.

1425
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: You could tell they were paintering to them.

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01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: Because they would say stuff that was so ridiculous for

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: an elected official right to be saying, mostly because of

1428
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you're essentially saying vote for me, but

1429
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: also like, don't really worry about all this voting shit,

1430
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like vote for me, support me,

1431
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: but ain't nobody gonna do the shit y'all want us

1432
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: to do, you know, or that why don't they just

1433
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: simply do this instead of going let me teach my consistence.

1434
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: How consistent constituents, how we can achieve this goal. It

1435
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: would be like, just do this goal. That's all that matters.

1436
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: And that works well on Twitter. But then I'm like,

1437
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt you with your colleagues. It's gonna hurt

1438
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: you eventually because people are gonna look at you and go, well,

1439
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: you say that, but you don't ever do nothing, you.

1440
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1441
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: So and then also Joe Biden, to his credit, reached

1442
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: out to them like like that's something that Like I said,

1443
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: I just you've seen.

1444
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: The vitriol lower and lower and lower to Jodah.

1445
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: Basically, the only things they say about Biden now is

1446
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: jokes about him being old, you know, because agism is

1447
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: one of the things you can actually like get away

1448
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: with on the left. But there's no real like this

1449
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: man doesn't want to do this policy as much because

1450
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: it's like we understand that it's not just a will

1451
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: of the president thing. We need the votes, we need

1452
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: the numbers, we need, we need to build some type

1453
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: of coalition. How are we gonna do that? Joe's a

1454
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: coalition builder, a coalition builder, and so now it's harder

1455
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: to attack them on that talking point.

1456
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Also, I think a lot of things have

1457
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: changed too. I think that they've got more experience at

1458
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: the job, which people have a tendency to ignore that shit.

1459
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 3: They got more experienced so they know what works what

1460
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: doesn't work. They've been through enough shit where they've kind

1461
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: of got some formal reprimand where they go, you know what,

1462
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 3: I might need to calm this shit down.

1463
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 4: And truth be told. The fucking insurrection.

1464
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't think people realize how much the insurrection affected them,

1465
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: more than people will ever know. You know, some of

1466
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 3: the shit that happened, We will never know what happened

1467
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: to them. But when they was like, I am the

1468
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 3: target of this, I have got.

1469
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: To change some things. And also I think they, in

1470
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: my opinion, time will tell. I think they.

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Speaker 3: Had to prioritize social media, and at first social media

1472
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 3: was the highest priority.

1473
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 4: Social media has came down a bit.

1474
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 3: Not that they don't get out there, not that they

1475
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: don't talk on it, not that they're not savvy.

1476
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: They're good at it. They're really really good at it.

1477
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: And if you can hone those skills, great, But at

1478
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: the same time, particular with AOC, when she talks about

1479
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: the feelings getting hurt, she had to learn. They will

1480
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: turn on you at the drop of a dime. And

1481
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 3: a lot of these motherfuckers they aren't your voting populist.

1482
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 3: They live nowhere in the place where you spent the

1483
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: time to walk and go door to door and you

1484
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 3: actually had to work hard to win. Like a lot

1485
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: of these people don't give a fuck about none of that.

1486
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: They don't understand the rule because when now they're explaining shit,

1487
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: they're not just out there blah blah, No, they're like, no,

1488
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: this is what you need to do. It's harder than

1489
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 3: you think, guys, And you're dealing with people that don't

1490
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: give a fuck. And I think some of them realize, oh,

1491
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 3: y'all don't give a fuck. Y'all up here to pump

1492
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: me up, make me feel good, and I'm not trying funny,

1493
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 3: have me look like a motherfucking food.

1494
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 4: And I'm the one with the job, so I'm held

1495
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: accountable for my actions.

1496
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: So when I repeat the shit that you say and

1497
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: I go to apply for a position, and they go, no, bitch,

1498
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 3: you don't get along with nobody, so we're not putting

1499
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,839
Speaker 3: you in these positions that you actually want.

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01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 4: That shit matters.

1501
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: They didn't want representation. They didn't even want some of

1502
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: the left goals that they claimed they wanted. They wanted

1503
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 1: chaos agents.

1504
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1505
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: The representation they wanted was one of derail as much

1506
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: as you can, even if it's democratic things, we claim

1507
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: we want derail it because we want to feel more

1508
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: righteous than everyone else, and if you want to continue

1509
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: to be part of our righteous group, you need to

1510
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: get in there and basically not participate. They wanted Nancy

1511
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: Pelosi in them to lose the House. And this is

1512
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: before they got to the fifty to fifty Senate thing,

1513
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: which is still not really fifty fifty, but this is

1514
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: before that, so they didn't have the Senate, and they

1515
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: were like give away the house, like tell Nancy Pelosi

1516
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: to get us universal health care or were giving away

1517
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: the House, and it's like, Nancy Pelosi can't even do that,

1518
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You know, this is before

1519
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: Biden was warned, and if I'm not mistaken, like so

1520
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: these people were just ready to throw her whole career away,

1521
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: throw the whole government away, so they could go into

1522
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: podcasts and talk shit about Democrats. It was just stupid,

1523
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: and I think she her and il Han and uh

1524
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of them just just wised up

1525
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: and said, well, let me just do my job. Yes,

1526
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: is because at the end of the day, y'all are

1527
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: on some like we're not even trying to vote shit,

1528
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know if y'all noticed, I can't have

1529
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: this job of no one vote so right, like, fuck y'all.

1530
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: And not only that, for some of them they barely won.

1531
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 4: They was like, bitch, I bear on the one.

1532
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I'm not dealing with y'all, motherfuckers, y'all

1533
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: not min y'all not gonna vote for me.

1534
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 4: No, I need to cater towards these people and fuck y'all.

1535
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: So once again, the YouTube algorithm start rewarding the anti

1536
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: LC videos. So, in an obvious desperate move, Door turned

1537
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 1: his trolls on his former comrades to The Young Turks,

1538
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: obviously going harder at the female co host because misogyny, yeah,

1539
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: which they apparently have no problem with. And I just

1540
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: made up and anytime you talk to one of these motherfuckers, it's.

1541
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: Like massagy dad what this week?

1542
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: The female The Young Turks co host said Door DM

1543
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: reminded him of how he sexually harassed her for years

1544
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: highlighting an incident a few years ago. It was Dora

1545
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: looked up her skirt and humiliated her in front of

1546
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: the Young Turch staff. Back then, she had threatened to

1547
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: get him fired, which forced him to apologize. He actually

1548
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: sent her a card apologizing. Now she was telling him

1549
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: to call his trolls off her and leave her alone

1550
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 1: because the harrass was affecting her, probably using the incidents

1551
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: as a thinly velt threat. Shout out to the Young

1552
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: Turks for emphasizing with Rod during the Bernie so Black

1553
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: mob attack. Yeah right, I really they were such a

1554
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 1: part of it. It was so crazy. Even a couple

1555
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: of years after that shit went down, one of the

1556
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: dudes from the Young Turks was in my mentions, like,

1557
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: so you started Bernie so Black. I was like, dude,

1558
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: no one ain't even cares, No one care. You talking

1559
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: about something from years ago and it was a joke.

1560
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: But he I had to block the dude.

1561
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: Because he just kept going.

1562
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: And I could tell, Oh, he's trying to like have

1563
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: his followers, because this is what they do. He's trying

1564
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: to have his followers come at me over and over,

1565
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't let me show you

1566
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: through my actions how much.

1567
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1568
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't care because it's the only thing that you'll

1569
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: understand is I know how it.

1570
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: Works for y'all. The engagement.

1571
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: He was a black dude, and he was trying to

1572
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: be the token black person, like like, look at me,

1573
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm a black person going after this black guy. Since

1574
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: white people get doing it get accused of being racist.

1575
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, let me show you how much

1576
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. You're blocked and I'm not

1577
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: responding to anyone that has anything to say to me,

1578
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: and they all because I don't need the engagement.

1579
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to have it.

1580
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: Like going back and forth.

1581
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: With people on Twitter doesn't help me in any type

1582
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: of way, in the ways that make money for me,

1583
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: in the ways that make my mentality feel healthier, none

1584
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I have, however, many followers on Twitter,

1585
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: but we don't get that many listeners to the show.

1586
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: So Twitter is not a gateway to the black out tips.

1587
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: And while it might be a gateway to the young

1588
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: Turks or something, it's not for me. And I'm damn

1589
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: sure not befitting to argue politics when I ain't got

1590
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: not one position that in anybody's government. It is just

1591
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: my opinion. You don't like it, move the fuck on.

1592
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it. It's nothing I

1593
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: could do about yours. If you want to have a

1594
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: good faith conversation, I'm down with that. But this this

1595
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: ship where he was coming at me over Bernie so

1596
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: Black and he works for them, and it's and it's

1597
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: been years since they harassed me, and.

1598
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: With most people can less now like what was wrong

1599
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 4: with you?

1600
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: Man?

1601
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 4: You know?

1602
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: So I'm here to tell you right now, we don't care.

1603
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 5: Let me tell let me we don't care.

1604
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: So, however, being a borderline alright troll, Door decided to

1605
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: use his DM is content he told He posted the

1606
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: dm on his YouTube show, saying she's threatening me, y'all.

1607
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1608
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: Then he gave his own version of events. Oh boy,

1609
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: Rod was right. These dude bros function at a whole

1610
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: different level. Door said, well, she came to work in

1611
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: a mini skirt dressed inappropriately a half years ago.

1612
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: Why are you quiet? All along? Straight from the Cozy

1613
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Weinstein playbook.

1614
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 1: Goddamn, this is a guy who says elha alc, Presley,

1615
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: Corey Busch, t lib are not progressive enough.

1616
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,919
Speaker 2: So let's do a brief profile on the Young Turk alumni.

1617
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're never progressive enough in the white way, in

1618
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: the white man way, the white man socialism way. They

1619
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: never for Elder, they never for They call every other

1620
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: thing identity politics. Yes they do so, black issues, black

1621
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: lives matter, identity politics, women issues, pro choice, identity politics,

1622
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: religious issues like Muslims and stuff, identity politics, immigration, identity politics.

1623
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: Well, what the fuck?

1624
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: So the only identity is not an identity is the

1625
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: white male identity, you know, Like this little stuff that

1626
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: I've just realized over the years is like, oh so

1627
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: it's just a different kind of white supremacy over here.

1628
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1629
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be the black guy that's

1630
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: the talking head for that ship, because it's it's never.

1631
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: Good, Yes, sir one.

1632
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dore extensively resumed resume of missogyny, plus a few appearances.

1633
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: On Tucker Cross, a very liberal show. Yeah they can

1634
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: always stomach that, right. Two.

1635
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: Dave Ruben, a gay Jewish guy who stick is I'm

1636
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: liberal left, the I'm the liberal that left, the left,

1637
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: host of avowed humbophobes, transpers anti semitis, holocaust.

1638
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: Denized that I mentioned.

1639
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: That he's both gay and Jewish on his YouTube show,

1640
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: which also has the infamous Race and IQ interview, which

1641
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: avowed white supremacist Millan. I don't know how to pronounce this,

1642
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: but it says Milan nine ewle or you can't.

1643
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 2: Be by the speller's name. Oh Millan. Oh that dude

1644
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: Funck is his name? God? Now I can't remember it.

1645
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're talking about among its greatest hits

1646
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: three Michael Tracy, the guy who spent who spent six

1647
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 1: months in a combat the mixed martial arts expert and

1648
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: Congresswoman Maxine Waters supposedly knocked them out with a brutal uppercut,

1649
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: recently making ways for saying January six rides were justified

1650
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: because Trump's presidency was spoiled by Russia allegations.

1651
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, these niggas are all around trash.

1652
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: Well, the far left lefty left is cannibalizing itself.

1653
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: Hate to see it.

1654
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: I would also like to comment on gim team the

1655
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: Plantation brother who got dragged online and loss is funded.

1656
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: I think y'all were too kind on the brother.

1657
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: The brother is rather naive, you can't read the room,

1658
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: and it's too relied on academiistics. The word slaves has powers, slaves, slavery, negroes,

1659
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: Jim Crow, reconstruction. These powerful emotional words should never be

1660
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: substituted with whatever the fuck this brother was advocating for.

1661
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: Plus forty percent of the US supports a political party

1662
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: whose objective is to whitewash history of rebooths, slavery, and,

1663
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: by extension, the case for reparations from the discussion history

1664
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: of lexicon. This is the one case where nuanced semantics wait.

1665
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: This is the one case where nuance semantics and strict

1666
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: the sours definitions won't fly.

1667
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: Dictionary definition just change over.

1668
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 7: Tom.

1669
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: Slaves now means what we all know. It means black

1670
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: people are property traded like cattle. Black people's property traded

1671
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: like cattle, working for free, abused, wipth, etc. Is not

1672
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: that complicated. I fully understand the backlash behind it. There

1673
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: are obviously bad faith actors within the outrage mob. But

1674
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: if you stir behive, both the soldier bees and honey

1675
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: bees are coming for that ass.

1676
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: I hope the brother learned from this continues as good

1677
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: work and the future.

1678
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: Consult with black academics and do the rounds on black podcasts.

1679
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: Put his ideas and the white guys before implementing his

1680
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: June tenth and other major events.

1681
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 3: And my thing is this, what he was talking about

1682
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 3: came from academics, Like his phrases came from these academic people.

1683
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 3: And what you're saying is what a lot of the

1684
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 3: anger people were saying. This is the word, this is

1685
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 3: definition and it don't need.

1686
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 4: To be changed.

1687
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, we're actually going to challenge that.

1688
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 3: And people don't like to be challenged on something that

1689
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 3: they think is loft. That's just and there's nothing wrong

1690
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 3: with that, you know because that was my first response too.

1691
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: And the thing is this, like you say, once you're

1692
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: getting into acade demia and you start taking these big

1693
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: words all soside and these thought processing this you know

1694
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 3: place where you go when you you know, have these

1695
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: intellectual debates and you have to take these big concepts

1696
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 3: and shrink them down to where a common person could

1697
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 3: understand it. There's you have to actually take the time.

1698
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: His mistake was that he was not gented with it

1699
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 3: all aside. That was his mistake. You know, you could say,

1700
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 3: you have the right to be anger, you have the

1701
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: right to be upset. I apologized that I did not

1702
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: explain this in a proper way that people would understand.

1703
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 3: It is my job to explain the thing to the

1704
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: best of my possibility so that the masses can understand it.

1705
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 3: And for the fact that you did not understand it,

1706
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 3: I felt in my job like like I felt in

1707
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 3: my job.

1708
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: Could I have worded it differently? Yes? Is your anger valid? Yes?

1709
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 4: I understand that there is.

1710
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: No trust here, so I need to do a better

1711
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: job of building trust with the community so so that

1712
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 3: when we start doing these programs in the future, they

1713
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: will be no distrust. I am not the type of

1714
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: person that the people are claiming that I am. I

1715
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: am not that type of person. This was not my purpose.

1716
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 3: What I want to do. I want to change the definition.

1717
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 3: I want to make it where like Roderick says, it's

1718
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 3: a difference between being a slave and saying a slave

1719
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: is not who I am. Like I had to think

1720
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 3: about that, you know, because there are people people tried

1721
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: to realize this, that we're slaves. They will tell you

1722
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: I'm not defined by the word slave like you talk

1723
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: about rape. There are people that go, I'm not a victim,

1724
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: and they'll flat tell you that I am not a

1725
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: victim of this, you know, And then there are people

1726
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: that says, I am a victim of this.

1727
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 4: It's all in.

1728
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: Your interpretation on how you want to take what has happened.

1729
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 3: And I think whenever new words and new languages are

1730
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: introduced to the mass, it is very hard for them

1731
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: to kind of make that connection. Just like when me

1732
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: and rogerck first talked about defund the police, Me and

1733
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 3: Roger and when It's a record had a law as

1734
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 3: conversation about that. We talk on the mic and we

1735
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 3: talk off the mic because I was like, fuck this bullshit.

1736
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: That means something like like like defund the police actually

1737
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 3: has a meaning, just like you said, slavery actually has

1738
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 3: a meaning. So unless somebody's actually going to take the

1739
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: time and explain all these philosophical things to you, you

1740
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: can't be but like this, this man is a real

1741
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: life person.

1742
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: You can't be like Twitter and say fucking understand it.

1743
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: That's what we fail to realize that he gave that

1744
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 3: Twitter response was like fuck you niggas.

1745
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 4: You ain't get it, You ain't understand it.

1746
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?

1747
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: I came and I tried to help you people, because

1748
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,919
Speaker 3: all you're gonna do is make people angrier.

1749
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.

1750
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 3: Approach things from a kind from a place of kindness.

1751
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 3: And my biggest thing is sometimes take the al whenever

1752
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: it's not justified, because you know what, not taking the

1753
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: al did cast you funding?

1754
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's really what it comes down to.

1755
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: But uh, that term the I disagree with all like

1756
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: dictionary definition thing because as you said, the definitions change

1757
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: over time. There could be a time twenty years from

1758
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: now where people say bondsmen are bonds people and not slaves,

1759
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: like like not every like even the whole Like we

1760
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: have to say it because you know, it has power

1761
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: words changing power words changing meaning. Look at how many

1762
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: people are stuck arguing over cancel culture because it has

1763
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: like five different meanings right now, Like things like context

1764
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: matters in this. And I think also, as Karen brought

1765
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: up so astute Lee, the academics are the people that

1766
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: are on the forefront of trying to change his words.

1767
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: So the bondsman stuff.

1768
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: Is a is a is kind of like some I

1769
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say cutting edge, but like it's kind

1770
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: of like they're trying to usher that in in replacement

1771
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: for the word slave. He clearly jumped the gun on it.

1772
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: But also it's because people have bad faith in him.

1773
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: They don't.

1774
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: They have a lack of trust in him. I'm not

1775
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna sy bad faith. So they have a lack of trust.

1776
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 1: And so they didn't even want to say like, oh,

1777
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: I just google bondsmen it means slave. Yeah, they don't

1778
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: even want to do that because it's just like, nah,

1779
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: fuck that, and no, we don't want to see the

1780
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: academic research, an academic history. A black professor from our

1781
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: local HBCU was in an article being like, no, this

1782
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: is a valid program.

1783
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's as simple as that. I

1784
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: really do think it.

1785
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Is what Karen said, which was, hey, he got prideful,

1786
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: he got angry, he got defensive and dismissive, and he

1787
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: probably should have taken a completely opposite tone because even

1788
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: if people would they may or may not have been

1789
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: willing to listen. But even if they would have been

1790
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: willing to listen, they weren't gonna listen to you just

1791
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: be like, fuck, y'all, I know what I was doing.

1792
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1793
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: You almost have to come back and be like, hey, listen,

1794
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: I see how y'all got to this point. And I

1795
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: see how it looks, but let me explain to you,

1796
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: it's not what you think. And I hope y'all come

1797
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: out and see it, because I promise she was not

1798
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna go the.

1799
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Way you think it's going.

1800
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, man, it's like a lot of bad shit

1801
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: combined at the same time to end up where we

1802
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: ended up.

1803
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and both parties can be right and wrong, and

1804
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't think people understand that both parties can be

1805
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 3: right and both parties can be wrong right, And that's

1806
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 3: a very hard concept for people to understand. Everybody wants

1807
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 3: everything to be you're right, I'm wrong, I'm right, you're wrong,

1808
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: and try to erase actions. In reality, it doesn't function like.

1809
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1810
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: Everybody had a point, and I don't assume anyone had

1811
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: bad intentions. I think that's what's hard for people to do,

1812
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: is to go he didn't have bad intentions, but it

1813
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: got fucked up. The people that were trying to stop

1814
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: it didn't have bad intentions. They were trying to protect

1815
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: the community and make sure that this shit.

1816
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 2: Was on the up and up.

1817
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: So I don't think anyon have bad intentions, but it

1818
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: still got fucked up. Finally, I would like to ask

1819
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: your advice on something. A friend of mine is graduating

1820
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: in two months time. We were close and whether the

1821
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: toxic nature or grad school together. My friend is very

1822
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: much like Karen Extroverty that has way too many friends

1823
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and unfortunately a very small yet significant

1824
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: amount of her friends are on that sism. She's white,

1825
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: quite progressive, but her large ten of friends includes you know,

1826
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: past aggressive types. I either start ranting about the welfare

1827
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: system pitfall of diversity in PC when they see a

1828
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: nigga type she's she's having a large celebration in which

1829
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: beer and other stimulants will obviously be involved, you know,

1830
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: the toxic mixture of unfamiliar whites and beer and a

1831
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: nigga like me in the vicinity. I don't want to

1832
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: go as I know that sort of SISM will definitely

1833
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: pop off.

1834
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 2: My friend thinks holly of me.

1835
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to disappoint her, but I know that

1836
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: me going will obviously lead to some controversy.

1837
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 3: I e.

1838
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm in Australia, so COVID isn't an issue. What would

1839
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: y'all do if you were in my shoes? I know

1840
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: you ain't asking me answer.

1841
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 4: You answered your own question.

1842
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 3: Like all jokes aside, you roll us with your own answer,

1843
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 3: like you was like, I shouldn't go, that's the end.

1844
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 3: And sometimes we've got to learn how to be like

1845
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 3: I'm not going. You know, you're grown, You are grown,

1846
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: and you know what no is a complete sentence.

1847
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm not going the end. Why I don't have to

1848
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 4: explain it to you. I have other plans.

1849
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't care if your plans is to go to

1850
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: sleep and take a nap, I'm not going to.

1851
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: The end because if you feel uncomfortable, that's all it matters.

1852
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: So a couple of things.

1853
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: First of all, you know me, I'm quick to be

1854
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: like nope, but that's me, you know what I'm saying.

1855
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: Not everybody is like me.

1856
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: In that way, and I know that I am weird

1857
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: in that way, quote unquote, Like there's a lot of

1858
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: shit people do that I'm like, I ain't doing that,

1859
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, And there's stuff that sometimes I've learned over

1860
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: the years to that sometimes that can be a regret,

1861
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: Like I can say no to something immediately in my

1862
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: mind and then afterwards I'm like I should have went

1863
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: through that one. That was actually a good event. But

1864
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: with whiteness and white people in particular. I am very, very,

1865
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: very protective of my time because I used to have

1866
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: white friends and it was it always felt like, in

1867
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: addition to my introvertedness, it was going into a hostile

1868
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: environment where I needed to prepare myself in case some

1869
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: shit went down in a way that I didn't with

1870
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: black people. That's not to say things don't go down

1871
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: between black people, but this is a very specific type

1872
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: of like and at some point someone might just yell

1873
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: out the N word, whether they think it's funny or not.

1874
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Someone may tell me this horrible story of their you know.

1875
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: I can just think of just different examples. So it

1876
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: made me just think about, like, yeah, I probably wouldn't

1877
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: be game for that.

1878
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: I love intimate things, so it's like, hey.

1879
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Man, if you you know, if you like to go

1880
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: out to dinner or to lunch and you know, let me,

1881
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: let me treat you to lunch and we could talk about, yes,

1882
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: how'd your party go?

1883
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: You know that kind of thing. I love that stuff.

1884
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm an introvert like that.

1885
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 5: You know.

1886
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: I had a thing with like a family member where

1887
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: they were holding like a party or something, and I

1888
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to this party because it's

1889
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: just like one of everybody's gonna be that type of things,

1890
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: and you know, it's.

1891
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: Didn't seem that important.

1892
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: But then later I found out that they were kind

1893
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: of offended that I didn't go to the party. And

1894
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well that's a little bit weird.

1895
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: You know, I love you, You are my family. Why would

1896
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: I ever try to hurt you with something like that.

1897
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not out to get you. And we had a

1898
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: long talk about it and kind of just settled on like, hey,

1899
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: let's make sure we see each other, but it'll be

1900
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: like intimate, like you know, just come over to the crib.

1901
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I come over to your crib, Like let's just we

1902
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: should we can see each other.

1903
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: But I'm not a party dude.

1904
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, parties aren't your thing.

1905
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: And you know, if you know Roger, you kind of understand,

1906
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: you know that that concept then you know, and the

1907
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 3: thing is for that's just the way Roger functions.

1908
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1909
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: So but my point being so I already leaned towards

1910
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: not saying no, but that's just me. Once you throw

1911
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: into racism, I don't just lean towards saying no. I'm

1912
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: laying on the ground flat. I'm perfect ridicular to Know Nigga.

1913
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, absolutely no, I'm parallel to Know on the floor.

1914
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: But so I would probably not go just off of

1915
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: the racism stuff. Because the other thing is if you

1916
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 1: go and you're expecting it, how you're really having a

1917
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: good time.

1918
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 4: Right, because your walls are up thundee.

1919
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: Even if nothing happens, but the whole time you just

1920
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: felt like this. I hope they don't the then that's

1921
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:24,879
Speaker 1: is it really a good.

1922
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: Time and then enjoyable.

1923
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: The other thing is if they truly get offended that

1924
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you were, like I don't want to do that. That's

1925
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: not your friend, right or the kind of friends you

1926
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: are is not.

1927
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,520
Speaker 2: They don't understand.

1928
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: And I spend a lot of time trying to make

1929
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: sure my friends understand, like I love you and I

1930
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: care for you. It doesn't mean I want to go

1931
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: to your club venue birthday party.

1932
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't.

1933
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: It's not a person that attacking doesn't mean.

1934
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: And the people that love me and that truly understand that, man, Like,

1935
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful. Like my mom had a big bash

1936
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 1: for her birthday and she was going to the club

1937
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: and they were gonna go out drink and dancing, and

1938
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, I know you're not coming, so

1939
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: it's fine, but you know, Karen, he's a ride to

1940
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and from. Just let you know you could do that.

1941
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1942
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's the understanding there because

1943
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to like go there and

1944
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 1: ruin your birthday being all weird and all social butterflying

1945
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,480
Speaker 1: on the wall and not dancing.

1946
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 4: And shit, and I win and I had a motherfucking ball, right, and.

1947
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: So just different types for different people.

1948
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: Thanks for the patient with as long as email, love, comfort, entertainment,

1949
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: and the entertainment you provide regards to the shame.

1950
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1951
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1952
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: Lastly, Mary Wright saying helpe all as well. Hencel culture redemption,

1953
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: political strategy. I wasn't sure if you've seen this argue

1954
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: in New York Times about our favorite moonwalk and governor Virginia,

1955
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: Governor Ralph Norfolk. It's all about how he took the

1956
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: moment when those photos of him in blackface during the

1957
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: College of Year's surface and totally turned things around, not

1958
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: just for himself before an entire state. It resonated with

1959
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: me and prompted me to send it to you because

1960
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: it hits on a few of the things that you

1961
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: all discussed here on the podcast, like cancel culture. Do

1962
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: we cancel someone for something they do when they are

1963
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: when they were young, what if they are truly repentant,

1964
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: and what do we want to do better? As it

1965
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: appears Governor northrom did as an article says he has

1966
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: emerged as the most racially progressive leader in Virginia's history.

1967
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Imagine if he had just said that, no one gets

1968
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the opportunity to correct the mistake.

1969
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Everyone must be politically correct from birth. Yeah.

1970
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Imagine if he first of all shout out to

1971
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: the black voters of Virginia because that was the only

1972
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: people I cared about when the news came out, And

1973
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: then they interviewed those folks and they were like, no,

1974
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: we don't We don't want him to not be governor.

1975
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: Like the dude behind him is a whole fucking accused rapist,

1976
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: even with him being a black dude.

1977
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: No, we do not want this dude to be the governor,

1978
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: right because he might end up having stepped down and

1979
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: then the next.

1980
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Person is a Republican, so we go right back to

1981
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Republican rule. So if the difference is if the difference

1982
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: between all of this is do I care enough that

1983
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: this dude did blackface when he was in college, or

1984
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: we can just have a Republican I'll stomach the black face.

1985
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 3: Right And you know what, that right there is the

1986
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 3: real world.

1987
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: Twitter is fucking opposite world.

1988
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 3: That shit makes no sense, and you go, what you're

1989
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 3: saying is stupid.

1990
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's also just the thing I think a lot

1991
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: of people don't realize about social media is that it

1992
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: excuse towards a certain type of perspective already. And what

1993
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: I mean like, even when you're talking about black people,

1994
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: we're mostly talking about the black people who are college educated,

1995
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, degree degree black people, literate, black people, people

1996
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: that have the time, so they typically are either middle

1997
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: class or like higher working class.

1998
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: The people that our Internet savvy.

1999
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, this is like you're talking about this these people,

2000
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: the people that are probably lean more liberal, the more

2001
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: theoretical and shit like that. And then we also go

2002
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: out and self select even among that group to be like,

2003
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't want no niggas to be talking about blank

2004
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 1: on my page.

2005
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: So of course you think.

2006
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: All black people hate Obama would have voted for burning twice. Uh,

2007
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: you want to want to burn out down all the

2008
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: all the structures of the United States anti this, anti that.

2009
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Of course you think that, of course that's who's on

2010
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: there but that. But then you get off of the

2011
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: internet and you go talk to people and it's like, no,

2012
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: we're not vote. We don't want this dude to step down.

2013
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: We don't we don't want a Republican governor. We just

2014
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: did that, that mother wul of road voting rights and

2015
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: set us back decades like they're doing every other state.

2016
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, people that don't live here.

2017
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 4: We got this that don't live here, right.

2018
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: The other interesting part deal with coalition building and political strategy.

2019
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: The young progressors didn't think body would be progressive enough.

2020
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: They didn't think black people would vote for an old

2021
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: white man. You all have talked about how the older

2022
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: black activists and older black people in general are more

2023
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: moderate and willing to work to get things together, get

2024
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: to work together, get things done. Well, it was a

2025
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: older black Democrats that wanted North them to stay. It

2026
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: probably didn't help that the other two options weren't that good,

2027
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: one being a broad in the sex scandal. Anyway, check

2028
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: out the list of things our governor has completed. Abolished

2029
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: the death penalty allocated more than three hundred million dollars

2030
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: in the States, financially struggling black colleges, past sweeping police reform.

2031
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Measures, et cetera.

2032
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Legal last week anyway, I mean, I feel like we

2033
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: cover him all the time on here, We're like, look

2034
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 1: at this new thing.

2035
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 2: Anyway. Story reminded me of the podcast and that often

2036
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 2: you both.

2037
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: Strike a reasonable pragmatic and mostly empathetic, empathic tone knowing

2038
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: people are learning and wanting to extend grace because we

2039
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:45,879
Speaker 1: wanted that for ourselves.

2040
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: Good things can happen. Key, what the great work.

2041
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely That's the thing about pragmatism, man, I

2042
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know that it is ever popular, and I don't.

2043
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 4: Know that because don't get that online.

2044
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't always like that I'm pragmatic.

2045
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 4: You actually angry sometimes.

2046
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 2: And it will make people mad.

2047
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, I be right, and

2048
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: there's no consideration for that shit.

2049
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 4: Like nobody won't still apologize.

2050
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 2: Like people are lucky. I'm just not some asshole.

2051
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: Because if I was an asshole, every time they start

2052
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: bringing up some some some new opinion that they disagree

2053
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: with me on, I should bring up the old ship well, like,

2054
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: where were you then?

2055
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:25,959
Speaker 2: Remember when you said.

2056
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: Joe Biden couldn't win and I was like, nigga, he

2057
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: obviously the only one that can win.

2058
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Remember that?

2059
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: And you argue me blue on the tooth and then

2060
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: got mad and then blew in the tooth, blue in

2061
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: the face. You got mad, You got mad and all

2062
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: this shit like Remember that. Remember when I told you that, uh,

2063
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, some of these some of these things that

2064
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: you're advocating for are gonna be very difficult to get

2065
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: and we don't have the vote for it because it

2066
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: just seems like we do online, like it might seem

2067
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: like that in a poll. But how we're gonna do it?

2068
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: You know, hey, how are we gonna get defunding the police?

2069
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: But none of us are gonna be voting? Those two

2070
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: things don't make sense? You know how we're gonna give

2071
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 1: Republicans offices and then expect to get you know, liberal

2072
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: institutions that those don't make sense?

2073
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: You know how you gonna anyway? It's just a bunch

2074
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: of shit like that.

2075
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so now I seem like the asshole

2076
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: because I'm just going, well, it's gonna take a lot

2077
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 1: of work to get where you're going and just quoting,

2078
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 1: just putting a hashtag and running away is not necessarily

2079
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna get this done.

2080
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, how dare you? Motherfucker?

2081
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 4: Right?

2082
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: And Ralph Northum is a great example of like, I

2083
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: don't know, I think we should probably let this do,

2084
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: work this out because we might get something better out

2085
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: of this and instead of you know, instead of the

2086
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: action reaction everything, we end up getting a great governor

2087
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: out of it, the most progressive governor in Virginia's history.

2088
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 4: Good.

2089
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not that old black people can't be

2090
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,879
Speaker 3: can't be forgiving and won't change.

2091
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 2: Old old black people.

2092
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, old black people are more apt to say you

2093
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: can improve. Old black people have dealt with white people

2094
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,440
Speaker 3: to know, off to where they'd be like, hey, people.

2095
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 4: Can change that. There they're go at least.

2096
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 3: You're trying something, We're not gonna throw you away. And

2097
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 3: sometimes I think that's a generational thing. And you know,

2098
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 3: younger black people like.

2099
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 4: Oh, you fucked up one time. Fucking you were like, well,

2100
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 4: you didn't even give them a chance to see what

2101
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 4: they was gonna do. We see if they was gonna grow,

2102
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 4: And they're like, fuck it.

2103
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: The big thing for being With older black people, they're

2104
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 1: not on the internet as much, and the performantism hasn't

2105
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: seeped into what they stand for or hard.

2106
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 2: With a lot of young folks, it seeps like.

2107
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Performing and being on the clock all the time and

2108
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: being watched by other people, and the dopamine from the

2109
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: retweets and the light it's strong, like I saw God,

2110
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: I can't renew some them re renew Someone's on Twitter

2111
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: and it's not just her, it's several of the black activists.

2112
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: People are on Twitter doing this thing where.

2113
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Juneteenth gets gets, you know, officially seen as a holiday,

2114
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: federal holiday. And then they were going, who asked for this?

2115
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: We asked for this, this and this, and this is

2116
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: what they gave us. And people had to be like

2117
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: if someone made astute point, which is how separate are

2118
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: you from the community you claim to represent, that you

2119
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: did not know this was the result of decades worth

2120
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 1: of work, You should not be proud that you don't

2121
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: know that right, You should not feel you should be

2122
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: a little ashamed, like I could have found a way

2123
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: to make a point that I want these other things

2124
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: without diminishing the work that we got to get here,

2125
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: and that there's a lot of niggas who act very

2126
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: proud about that. Yes, And it's like, if you take

2127
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: a step away a distance, I'm like, that's anti blackness.

2128
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Because this matters, and not to mention symbols fucking matter,

2129
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: you know how to You know it matter because these

2130
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: motherfuckers talk about every TV show, every casting decision. You

2131
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: know what colorism in a movie is symbolic. If you

2132
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: sat there and you were mad that there were too

2133
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: many light skinned people in this one movie, so that

2134
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: one you was mad about, and that that and I.

2135
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Agree with you that you ain get it right, but

2136
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 2: you do realize.

2137
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: That's symbolic too, right, It's symbolic, and it affects a

2138
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff too economically for actors, but mostly

2139
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: it's symbolic. People are going, you felt, people are gonna

2140
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: watch this movie, not see themselves and not be edified

2141
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: by seeing the movie.

2142
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,440
Speaker 2: Correct feel left out? Well, motherfucker.

2143
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: A holiday is symbolic, and so this is going this

2144
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: cause this purpose, this moment is worth us as a people,

2145
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: everyone in this country stopping and reflecting, whether it be

2146
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: people who died in the war, whether it be fucking

2147
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, uh, giving people gifts, whether whatever the fuck

2148
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: it is that is. That's what they're saying. This country

2149
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: is fucked up. None of the holidays are good except

2150
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 1: this one. This will be the first holiday that we

2151
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: can honestly stop and go that actually was a good

2152
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: thing that happened, Like that really did happen, and that's

2153
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: a good thing. And since I know these woke motherfuckers,

2154
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,799
Speaker 1: they will spend every last one.

2155
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 2: Of these like they do every other holiday, explaining the shit.

2156
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: To everybody and make it like, well, you know, MLK

2157
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: really said this, so you know that, you know, so

2158
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 1: this will be the first one that's really like that,

2159
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I find it to

2160
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: be really telling that motherfuckers are becoming Juneteenth hipsters, Like oh,

2161
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 1: so now we're gonna talk about it like yes, bitch,

2162
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: because that's what the fuck the work was for everything

2163
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: you did to spread the word about this is this

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01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: coming to fruition every time the all the work that

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Speaker 1: politicians did, all the work that black activists.

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Speaker 2: Did, this was part of it.

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01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: This it's not either, it's not either or right. We

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01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: are coming for all the things, one by fucking one.

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01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: This is just another thing to check out. We got

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01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: this we keep moving and everyone that presents it as

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01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: some other form of likes Listen, we either get this

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01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: or that, but they gave us this. Are people that

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01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: are acting in bad fucking faith and they just want

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Speaker 1: to sound like high five woke over everybody when it's like, nigga,

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01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 1: you're not smarter than anybody. At the fucking signing of

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01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: this holiday into law, at the signing, all the black

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Speaker 1: people in that room read the interview excerptst they all said,

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01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 1: this is one thing, but what we really want is blank.

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01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: This is a step. We have work for this.

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01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Yes there's room for joint celebrations, but guess what we

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01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: want that voting right sack. We want that George Floyd,

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: police and Bill we want all the shit, we want respirations.

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01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 2: We want it fucking off.

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01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,560
Speaker 1: So stop presenting this false ultimatum that people settled for

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Speaker 1: some shit.

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01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 2: No one's settling for anything, right. It's extremely unfair and reductive.

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01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: And it's fucking insulting to the people that have done

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01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 1: this work. The people that go never dismiss black women,

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01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: will dismissing the fuck out of the black women that

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01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: work for this, like you fucking hypocrites.

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01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 2: It's so it's it's.

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: It's very telling people when it's so much ego driven

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01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: ship with the social media that it's very telling how

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01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 1: people get when when it like, it's like they get revealed.

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01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: The mask comes off.

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01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: Because last year, you know what, everybody was tweeting, they

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01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: need to make June tea the actual holidays people ask

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01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 1: for this.

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01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 2: Just last year.

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01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: Some motherfuckers ain't even learned about it. There's still people

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01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: because most of us are online, there's still a ship

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01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 1: to on the black people that don't even know about juneteen,

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01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: don't know.

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01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 2: The history of it or nothing.

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01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: You never heard of it.

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01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 1: So, yes, it's good, and every child who will ever

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01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: fucking celebrate this day, it is good. The fact that

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01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: they are racing race talk, not even critical race theory,

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Speaker 1: racial history from our schools.

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 2: But then you got this holiday.

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01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: Well, this is in direct conflict with that because I'll

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01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: tell you one thing they can't the stuff that's so

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01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: funny is and people are falling for this Republican bullshit.

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01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: But because obviously none of us wants racial history taken

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01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: out of school. But the thing most people don't realize

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: they're not teaching in this school. They never were teaching

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01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 1: in this school.

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01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 2: Even when Republicans.

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01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Are trying to take out it, it ain't even being taught.

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01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: It's not there.

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01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: What they want to win is a cultural ward. They're

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01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 1: trying to take out Black Lives Matter.

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01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 2: They're trying to take out They're trying to take out.

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01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 1: Teachers who are gonna bring up the sixteen nineteen project.

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01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: They don't teach the sixteen nineteen but they want to

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Speaker 1: take it out.

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01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 4: They want too made into the curriculum.

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01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: And the reason they want to do that is because

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01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: they have already lost that cultural war.

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01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,839
Speaker 2: Because their fucking children are learning.

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01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: It from fucking TikTok and Twitter and Instagram and shit

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01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: and every celebrity that put a black square up that

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01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: everyone mocked. They're learning it there. They can't escape it,

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01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: and they're so fucking scared. They are scared of us.

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01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,799
Speaker 1: They are scared that we are coming for their children's

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01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: minds before they can fucking get to them and go,

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01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: uh uh, you're gonna feel bad because they're finding out something.

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01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: Their children don't really feel that fucking bad. A lot

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01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: of them are like, Okay, I learned that. Wow, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know.

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01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 4: This fight against them with you is a problem.

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01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: The kids are fucking posting their parents on TikTok like,

2243
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: look at this though, racist motherfucker.

2244
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 2: That's what they're afraid of.

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01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: They already are losing that battle, the political battle of

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01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: whether or not you talk about it in schools. How

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01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: many of us learn anything about racism in schools? I wait,

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01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 1: none of us did before college. They minimized everything, even

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01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: whatever version of June teeth they would.

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Speaker 2: Have tied in schools or do teach in schools. Was like,

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01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,839
Speaker 2: and that's when they got the news they were free.

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01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: No, everybody knew they was free. It was when the

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01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: fucking guns came down and the army came down. The

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01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 1: Union was like, let these niggas go. It's like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: my path, did you say Tuesday? I thought it was.

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01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I thought you meant Thursday. You can leave niggas shooting?

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 3: And the biggest reason why because they wanted an extra

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01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 3: year of crops.

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01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 4: They was like, nah, we know y'all free, but we

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01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 4: want an extra year.

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01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,839
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, man, a lot of this stuff

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01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: is there are a lot of this stuff is people

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01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: giving away a victory rather than taking a victory and

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01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: winning and going and now I want to win another game.

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01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: It's like the NBA playoffs. Yes, you won game one,

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01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: we can celebrate game one.

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01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: Go else.

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01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: Guess what else we think about game two? We think

2271
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: about game two right now. So this shit where you

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01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: think everybody you're so woke. You the only nigga that

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01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: realized that. I saw that tweet so many times. I said,

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01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: des nother fuckers, it was a mess. You copy and

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01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: painte You might as look copy and paste the obvious

2276
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: point that you're making, which is a false straw man

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01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: argument that there's some level of black person, some level

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01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: of person out there that's like, well, now that they

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01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,480
Speaker 1: got June teen, I guess we can stop. Like no,

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01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: none of us will let that happen, not on our watch.

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01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 4: And they know it too.

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01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 3: And the thing is that they sounds so ignorant and dumb,

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01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 3: like it's like you didn't really think about your logic,

2284
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Like you say, it's one of them.

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01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 4: We either get this or this bitch, why can't we

2286
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 4: have at all?

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01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very it was just very simplistic thinking.

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01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: And look, whatever, if that's what you want to do,

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01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: I can't stop you.

2290
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not participating in it. And I know it's

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01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 2: in bad faith.

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01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: You don't really believe that shit you because you yourself

2293
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: are not special. So you think you the only nigga

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01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: think about some reparations. Get the fuck out my face,

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01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: you know. And white people didn't do this to come

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01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: up with this. Now, if you won't talk about some

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01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: hypocritical white people, because y'all, I'm always gained for Okay,

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01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that the Senate voted for this unanimously.

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01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 4: Right, But we can't get any fucking thing else past.

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01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: Those right, So you got Republicans and two at least

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01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: two Democrats I can think of, but obviously ninety eight

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01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 1: percent of Democrats not on this bullshit. So it's consistent

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01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: with the values of ninety six percent of the Democrats.

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01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 2: Right to vote this way.

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01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: You we won't be looking at most of the Democrats

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01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: and going, wow, you voted for this. All of us

2307
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, you should have voted for this. That's

2308
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: the right thing to do, and it's what you have

2309
01:46:52,360 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: been campaigning on. But them Republicans, where's the pressure on them?

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01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 2: How are we getting them out office? What are we

2311
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 2: gonna do other than just tweet some bullshit and be insulted?

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01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do cause that's the problem right there.

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01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, playing of office.

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01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Those motherfuckers are playing in our faces, right, so it

2315
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: goes to show you they can pass shit when they

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01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: want to, and they know right from wrong, and they

2317
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 1: know racism when they need to. But they are playing

2318
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: in our faces with this shit. One hundred percent support

2319
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: all like that is the hypocrites. Those are the people

2320
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 1: we can point out. But this shit where you shitting

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01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: on other black people, this shit where you're talking about, well,

2322
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 1: the these democrats, nigga be specific, the Senate, no, be specific.

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01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: It ain't everybody. Some of these motherfuckers voted exactly how

2324
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: they vote every other fucking time. But it's some other

2325
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: motherfuckers that are really playing games, and that shit is important.

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01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 1: All right, Gotta get out of here. Got something to

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01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: do it A thank you, appreciate y'all, Love y'all. We'll

2328
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. My dad should be the guest. Reached

2329
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: out to him. We'll figure out how we're gonna do it.

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01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: Karen's can computer is set up at the recording desk,

2331
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 2: so we.

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01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: Might have to do it remote. We'll see tomorrow, okay,

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01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 1: but until then, I love you.

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Speaker 4: I love you too, m.