WEBVTT - Where The F*ck Are My Keys?! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.720 You're talking about some pretty dangerous guys. Who's there some gangsters. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.640 There are some pretty angry people there. I mean to 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.920 lose their money and be disrobed and embarrassed like that. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.760 And that wasn't something that was was taken too lightly 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.840 at all. It was such a night matter me. We 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.680 don't want nobody here to get hurt. They knew what 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:28.000 they were doing, the biggest hustling in New York, the 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.560 biggest hustler there. They the biggest in Chicago, and unbread 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.199 men and the food and get robbed. They made threats. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.879 I guess our family. They were gonna kill me, my 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.800 little sister. They were gonna kill my mom. Their attitude 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.640 of that power world, it's somewhere. One day they were say, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:53.600 they said, the man guys go to back from my 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.920 Heart radio and doghouse pictures. This is fight night. I'm 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:06.440 Jeff Keating. Chicken Man's world was turned upside down. The 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.560 party that was supposed to set him up for good 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.480 was over, and now he was living a nightmare. He 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.280 knew that even if he survived the masked gunmen who 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.919 forced him to undress and lie on the basement floor, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.000 that the gangsters who entrusted him to host this party, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.120 now have him on their minds. As the crowds continue 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.440 to swell, the scene became too much for the robbers 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:37.720 to handle. Here I am with James Martin, the owner 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:44.240 of the house where the robbery went down. So James 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.760 Gordon is now downstairs with everybody else, and the crowds 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.320 are starting to increase in size as they are coming 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.680 to the front door. And what happens is a large 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.760 group James comes up to the house. They obviously see 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.600 the curtains drawn, they hear the music, but because there's 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.520 so many of them now, one of the men or 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.760 women in the back of the group sees when the 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.480 door opens a gun and yells it's a robbery or 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.519 he's got a gun. Well, I would think that the 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.360 neighbors would have reported it. We've got a cement walk 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.359 away with grass on both sides leading up to the house. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:29.000 We've got a iron fence that is about two to 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.840 three ft high with a big drop off towards the driveway, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.480 which means that you can't really jump or go to 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.560 the right of the house if you're trying to escape. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.440 And they run next door to the left here and 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.480 from what I heard. They started banging on the door 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:57.160 loudly and eventually get somebody inside to call the police. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.920 We've got the people down there on Handy Drive with 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.200 the walkie talkies. Because of the rise of the street. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.240 I don't think that they can see people in this 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.840 yard right here. They can't see them rushing next door 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:15.000 to call the police. Here's Chicken Man and j D 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.000 discussing what happened when the party goers approaching the house 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:24.000 saw the masked gunmen at the front door. People, but 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.640 why the water run next door and one around across 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.760 the stre your mother or two whatever these there was 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.760 a lot of They caught it off. They said, this 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.000 is it now. You went there already know what they 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.440 were saying on the on the on the walk and talk. Yeah, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.720 I forgot that they're about to walk our talk is 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.040 and the guys and listen, we gotta get we got 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.520 we gotta get out of here. And nobody got hood 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.280 and nobody want to get killed. And the man on 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.119 the outside. I hear the man and I said, yeah, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.880 but come on out, come on out, come on out there. Okay. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:06.200 So they're making everybody stay down and they're gathering the 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:12.400 acns whatever. And if the situation wasn't bad enough, they 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.080 got even worse when the robbers decided to take hostages. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.840 Here's Chicken Man quoting what the robbers said to the 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:25.040 victims lying on the basement floor to stay where you are. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.880 We're going out of here. We're gonna take two or 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.520 three the women with us and we'll let them go. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.039 We don't want to hurt nobody. Just drive a talk. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.640 We're not gonna bother them or nothing. We're gonna protects them. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:45.560 And uh, that's the way they split. One of them 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:50.520 was a girlfriend of mine who lived in Dials cant Baba. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.640 Here I am with James trying to figure out how 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.840 the robbers made their escape with the hostages. That's where 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.159 some of the robbers took off. Some of the robbers 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.840 took off maybe the front, you know, James, this is 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.680 what I really don't know. And that's the reason why 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.600 they would have to have Barbara with them, because she'd 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:13.960 had the calf the keys of the back door in 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.440 order to get out, unless they made her already unlock 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.080 it earlier in the evening, which I'm which I'm thinking 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.400 they do that they know that they've got to get 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.520 access to that back door. The reason I'm thinking that 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.479 they took Barbara with them was beat to the unlocked 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 the back door, So they probably took her down the 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.200 steps and you know, she unlocked the door and they 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.039 just took her whipon. My thought is because they had 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.280 the getaway driver about four blocks down that they walk. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.080 You talk to him saying, hey, this thing is over, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.040 we gotta get out of here. They zoom up here, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.159 maybe circle around in the cul de sac or whatever, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.160 They jump in the car and then go from there. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.000 I described to James the characters who were signed to 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.280 greet the party goers at the front door, specifically the 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.880 ruthless leader and main muscle in charge of the robbery crew, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.080 fast Eddie Parker. Fast Eddie Parker would have been one 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.400 of the gunmen at the front door, holding a three 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.719 fifty seven with a silencer. The other gunmen would have 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.279 been McKinley Rogers holding a sawed off shotguns. These guys 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.960 grew up in Brunswick, Georgia, and ended up in New 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.799 York as hustlers working together. Fast Eddie became the enforcer 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.800 for Richard Wheeler, a k A. Cadillac Ritchie, one of Cadillac. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:30.080 Ritchie's girlfriend's Jackie, described fast Eddie as a terrible man. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.440 He was about thirty six years old. He wore a 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.039 short brimmed hat, and he always carried around a black bag. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.160 When George Plimpton, who wrote Shadow Box, asked Jackie if 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.800 she ever looked in that black bag, she said, God, no, God, no, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.719 oh Lord, there could have been a head in that bag. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.240 So these are like real gangsters that I've seen the movies. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:56.040 Now that doesn't even sound real. That actually happened. These 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.320 were tough men with serious violent acts in their pasts. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.880 They had spent years doing stick up robberies in New 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.120 York and now they were in the middle of the 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.880 biggest heist of their lives. Here's j D with Chicken Man, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.960 guessing what the robbers did when the party became overcrowded 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:18.920 and too much to handle. Then they started leave. They left. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.760 Now you may know more about the night they left. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.720 What what? What? We'll go ahead, they left. I'm thinking 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.440 that when they left the delays people who left the party. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.840 Rober left must have been Bucky Brown and that gal 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.960 who's taking a ship off women. Okay, here I am 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:41.240 with James as we retraced the steps of j D's conjecture. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.400 Bookie Brown and Lillian Dabney were downstairs making their escape 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.320 through the basement door. It's important to understand, James. We 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.160 know that Frank Morten probably had a bodyguard waiting in 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.320 a car on Old No and could have seen anybody 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.800 coming out this back or and going through the backyard 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:08.840 to that street. So we're walking into the back yard 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.480 at the house now and going to retrace the steps 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:19.560 of some of the robbers as they're doing their getaway. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.840 So it was all of this was open anyway. There 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.000 was no offense on this back end, so they were 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.320 definitely able to go through the backyard to get to 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.480 the to the back street of oh No in order 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.360 to get away. I'm assuming, James, that's a very good assumption. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.480 You've got a clear shot of Old No. How far 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.760 do you think that is? Maybe thirty forty yards to 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.560 the house and then another thirty forty yards, So I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:51.040 mean we're talking about one football field maybe from the 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.040 back of the house to Old No. Where there would 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.400 have been another card somehow. As the robbers leaving with 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.679 this third woman, he sees that there is a getaway 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.840 car and he drops the girl and the gun and 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:11.280 the satchel. He tells the woman, Hey, baby, I gotta 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.920 get out of here. I gotta drop you now and 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.679 grab some leather, something to that effect. But what's important 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.000 to understand is that he basically has to leave her 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.719 and the satchel and the shotgun at the scene of 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:31.040 the robbery, and that's eventually what leads the police to 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:44.960 their first clue. The robbers had made their escape and 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.560 taken two hostages with them, Barbara Smith and another lady 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.280 from New York. Chicken Man and all the other hustlers 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.720 and gangsters were half naked and trying to figure out 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.720 what the hell just happened, and they were about to 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.559 do the police, who were going to start asking them 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.960 a bunch of questions. Here's Jad and Chicken Man explaining 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.040 to me why none of the victims wanted to report 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:16.199 the robbery. They were all hustless and everybody's waiting to 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:21.600 hear about him day behind. The rest would have gone crazy. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.760 They put them all intoil, the local deals put him 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.560 into him. Everybody wanted them. They knew what they were doing. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.240 They robbed it because they know we if if that 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.680 don't happen. The people don't call the police because the 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.200 robber and they come in and robber, everybody leaves and 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.360 none of us don't call the police. It was such 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:48.600 a night matter me because the boys thing could have 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.080 happened has already has happened. The worst thing that could 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.360 have happened has already happened. That's what Chicken Man told 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.960 me when I interviewed him in two thousand and four. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.200 Are now, if you're Chicken Man, right now, your head 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.480 is spinning. You're thinking, what am I gonna do? What's 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.640 gonna happen to me? What's gonna happen to my family? 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.720 What the hell just happened? And what are Frank Moten 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.840 and all these hustlers thinking? Just went down? Because if 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.440 I'm Chicken Man, I'm thinking that they're thinking that I 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:28.360 did it. Here's Chicken Man describing the scene in the basement. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:34.480 Once the robbers were gone. See what did it took 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:41.599 everybody pocketbook and stretched shredded it. Like you know, you 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.480 look through all the compartments. So everybody driving lies here 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.520 was all in the middle flow among all the other cards, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.040 and then all this thing and I mean it is 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.079 through the long patent. Well, that's when everybody got a 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.720 chance to see who was really there, because otherwise when 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.920 you when you came in, they put their face down 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.079 to the floor, so you didn't know. Oh, you know, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.200 some more people on the other side of you. You know, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.720 I don't know who they were. They mean the girls. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:14.760 Now they had about eight chair a little make sure 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.880 the bob we had. They had the girls sitting up 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.440 on the bar, all the girls, just to fill up 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.839 the school. Yeah, it's good, but everybody else was on 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.120 the floor. That's when I realized that some of the 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.760 people who were there where I know him from different 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.960 places New York or were having because they did the invitement. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:41.360 I didn't know everybody. At some point after the robbers left, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.280 I'm guessing chicken In and Frank Molten must have exchanged words. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.760 This is a quote from The Black Godfather in George 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:55.600 Plimpton's book shadow Box. We couldn't hear the radios no more. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.200 People slowly got up and looked around. Then they tried 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.079 to find their clothing. It lay there in a tall 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.440 pile like a rummed sale, and people were calling out, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.640 I got so and so's credit cards, but I don't 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.520 remember much laughing. I recall the Chicken Man was wearing 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.560 a pair of long underwear, and someone came up and 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.280 said that if he was wearing long underwear, he must 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.240 have known he was going to spend the night lying 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:25.959 on the cellar floor. He was prepared and man that 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:31.200 meant he was implicated. Chicken Man was looking guilty. The 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.559 newspapers would report the claim that Chicken Man was wearing 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.160 long John's. It could be the second most damning evidence 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.920 that Chicken Man was involved in this caper. The first 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.920 was that he owned the house where the party took place. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.679 Here's Chicken Man and j D reflecting on the mistake 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.520 the robbers had made. The attitude at that time where 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.760 they worth about the robbers. They worried about the doing. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.760 The embarrassment they did have nothing else made them do mad. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:08.079 Their money. Didn't mean about that money, boy making the 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.320 warm un addressed boy, I didn't give about the money. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.520 They didn't give a damn, but didn't get they said 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.839 the money. The robbers fled the party house on Handy 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.280 Drive with over a million dollars in cash and jewelry 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.760 and took three hostages with them. Dozens and dozens of 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.160 people had been robbed and they were in shock. But 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.560 as they began putting their clothes back on and rummaging 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.880 through the pile of belongings on the floor, they realized 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.480 they had no way to leave. Their car keys were gone. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.760 Here's the conversation between Chicken Men and j D describing 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.000 when the cops first arrived on the scene. So when 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:55.880 the police calm, I'm days. They took cockys mad from 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.560 Acne come out there and stayed out there half of 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:03.280 day making keys. So they all the cockies. But when 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.240 the police coming, they didn't know nobody. Brother nicks on 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.360 me so checking what you're doing here? This is your 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.680 house now When when I look up, I see you 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.960 to bird because the people trying to find the driver 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.120 lines and the women drawings over here. So when the 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.280 police come, so they just asking no questions. You know 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.160 you said the robber went that way, ain't there with 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.960 an about the net And I got to get my 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.960 ass out of there. Brother, this none of go kiss 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.120 the robber. If you find it, then come back with no. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.520 I don't know what. So when the man run into me, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.680 you take a man, and so he started asking me questions. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.640 So I said, listen man the robber that happened that 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.720 people got the money. People come there and stuff and 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.600 stuck all of us up. So I'm I'm telling what 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.760 the New Yorkice telling. Don't ask me nothing. The robber 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:59.320 went that way. Kiss the robber my understanding. I think 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 we're go way and covering the frank. I found out 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:06.240 that the people were from everywhere. I was always sure 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.800 of that. But after they back to the fair cover 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:25.160 then they began to leave anybody's As the hustlers and 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.520 gangsters tried to find transportation to leave Chicken Man's house, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.600 he was still in shock and worried sick about Barbara 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.080 and the other lady taking hostage. I took him up 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.560 there no side and bank here and the boba said. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.000 The guy said, if I uh said, baby shows nice 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.040 and everybody at the time, I just kill you on 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.760 win me and then uh and give him well are 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.320 you gonna get back? And then him twenty hours or something. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.400 The kids a cab to come back through the house. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:17:00.160 They let them go, Let them go. It's unbelievable, well 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.360 that Barbara and her friend would be able to find 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.679 a cab at around three in the morning on a 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.600 dark deserted street. Some reports say they picked up a 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.000 ride from some late night partiers still celebrating Ali's victory. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.320 In any case, Barbara and her friend made their way 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.240 back to the house on Handy Drive while Chicken in 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.760 watched the gangsters who were robbed gathered their clothes and leave. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.280 Someone were just trying to get to a bus stop 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.360 or whatever they want to get back to the hotel 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.320 with all of us was checked in and somebody's hotel. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.639 None of them lived, so and we called cabin and 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.399 cav came, and cavs came. The attitude at that time world, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.080 they didn't they work about the robber. They didn't know 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:50.439 the robber to mistake. It's somewhere one day they were paid. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.080 You know a guy, the biggest hustler in New York, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.560 the biggest hustler now the biggest in Chicago. Have none 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:07.720 dressed the flo and get robbed. I mean the restaurant life. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.840 He's been ratified. Who who who did that? And he's 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.320 gonna kill it. That's what we told me. Everything. It 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:20.840 was these guys going to back after the robbers left 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.800 and before Leach came to the house with your hotel 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.879 because I was I was bumped. I was out of 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:31.160 the Next morning, while Chicken Men was at a hotel 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.679 sleeping off the horrors of the night before, one of 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.280 the hustlers who got robbed was in front of his 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:43.239 house being interviewed by WSB and this feels long goo 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.159 to me, and the show said stick your hands up. 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.440 I said, man, stop jabbing and hit him. He said, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.120 I'm not jabbing better, and he pushed me around to come. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.600 When he pushed me around the corner, and he's told 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.119 me this was to shut down to my head, and 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.560 I said, I'm not There's not no stage, Joe. I'm 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.720 not jabbing. I'm for real. And when he said that, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.159 I was really to push him in a no because 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.679 I just had It's all the fact. And by that 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.040 time two or three more filers came out. Was shutting 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.359 and as I said, he's not jabbing. When Chicken Men 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.560 finally gets up and leaves the hotel, he stops off 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.760 and gets a newspaper. He was surprised to see his 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.600 face on the cover. This is the same article my 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.600 father showed me at the Decatur Library almost twenty years ago. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.520 And when I came out to the hotel and next morning, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.280 my pictures on the front page of the paper talking 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.840 about the dribber and and they put a cash mount 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.640 on it, on the robbery. So I called his lawyer. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.600 But it made news. Why newspaper all over the time. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.000 See my picture on the paper, and if people robbed us, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.679 and we're robbing you know. And but I knew what 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.600 that meant. When it is like I had robbed the people, 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.320 it's like I had set it up. Here is a 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:10.840 piece from the Atlanta Journal on October nine, which describes 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.680 the estimated take from the robbery. According to Lieutenant Bird, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.520 one of the first detectives that showed up at the heist, 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.880 one of the gunmen threatened the guests with this warning 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.960 and I quote, if you raise your head, I will 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.879 blow it off. End quote from the same article, and 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.200 I quote one of the guests informed me that is 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:38.800 lost in jewelry alone was about twenty thousand dollars. There's 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.639 really no way to set the exact loss, since the 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:46.840 majority of the victims refused to file official complaints. However, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.640 several said it would be a hundred thousand and two 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:54.719 hundred thousand dollars or possibly more. End quote. The total 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.640 hall from the robbery would increase over the next few weeks. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.760 We know the partygoers did I want to talk to 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.760 the police because that would lead directly to the I R, 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.439 S and FBI asking questions. We also know that Chicken 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.280 Man was the key suspect in the robbery. And the 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.480 next day J. D. Hudson was assigned to the case 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:19.320 by the Chief of Police, Herberty Jenkins, and the chief saying, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.000 Lutana Hudson is running this damn fame. He directly to 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.200 me and we are not shape the chief shape in 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.680 the mass THO out about that, and he never make 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.959 me sense things right right there at that I need 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.359 the chiefs etect was superlim of the okay, that was 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.679 the text. And Lieutenant and you were Detective Blue Tenant 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.880 and so was he supposed to have He was your boy. 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.000 But now boom, his boss is telling him that you're 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.320 in charge of the investigator and I report to him, 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:49.960 and you were bort to the chief and what was 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:56.400 the chiefs name back then, Perty Jenkins. The chiefs called 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.360 me and told me you want to be to get 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.879 the case because none of the huspal talked to the police. 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.040 We'll not talk to the robber intective, we'll talk to anybody, 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:14.960 and so I started the investigation. When the robbery happened, 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:21.080 he took charge. Chief of Police Herberty Jenkins, gave J. D. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:26.160 Hudson a partner, Lieutenant Joe Amos. Amos was working international 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.880 security at the time, but they were both pulled off 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.680 their regular assignments and worked this robbery case together for 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.960 the next several weeks. I remember when day I was 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.920 coming down Mind of the King and it was shouted 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.040 after the rocks. I was visible when they were the robbery. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.560 I wouldn't get out of side for five minutes because 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.320 I don't want to people think I didn't gonna count 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.080 of money and him and Amos was prob turned around 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.639 on the sen and uh. He wanted me to come 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.639 down to the station and identify somethings as I did. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:02.280 H I don't want to knew it that y'all got 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.040 him do what you can would then robbed me. I 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.960 don't even want to see rob well, you know what 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.520 I wanted to. I want to talk to you to 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.800 see could you have us figure out who the robbers were? 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.639 Because I knew that I don't know what you was convinced, 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.639 but I was convinced that you were not involved because, 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:26.639 like I said, I was able to place you in 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.479 the fight. J D. Hudson new chicken Man was at 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.600 the fight, so he assumes he had nothing to do 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.919 with the robbery. How about people who were at the party, 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.200 did he know any of them? Here's J. D. Hudson 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:43.200 and Chicken Man talking about that. I was never really 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.760 told who all was there for his blacke mank I 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.639 didn't want I didn't want to know. I couldn't know 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:56.560 who was there and what they did and also find 0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.000 out what happened, because if I started planning to finding 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.399 who these people were and what that that what they 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.800 did in life, they would have told me a damn BA, 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.720 don't read people. They were talked to. That we got 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.280 people to talk to us is because the local hustitals 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:16.159 told him that agree with people, uh that we talked to, 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:21.320 you know, and uh no, they could trust it. And 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.239 you know, you had to. You had to. You had 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.520 to decide whether you want to be a basquat detect 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.840 or racket racket detective, investigator or robbery. My nation was 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:36.000 to investigator robbery and talking to some of the hustles, 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.240 they told the guys who I was all about to 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.200 be and that they could talk to me because I 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:46.600 didn't care what they did. Wherever they were came from 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.520 in their owners they asked for saying about we didn't 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.920 want to better killed in the Atlanta but the chief strected, 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.120 but don't get the better killer and anybody else killed. 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.639 The next few days after the robbery, Chicken Man was 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:08.280 trying to stay alive and clear his name with the press, 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.720 the police and the gangsters that he assumed were trying 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.120 to have him killed, and he was most concerned about 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:21.040 his family's safety. Here's Gordon Williams Jr. Talking about the 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:26.520 threats against their lives. People thought he was responsible. Everybody 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.639 thought my dad set that party up. I mean it 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.280 came out on the news, It came out everywhere that 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.639 Chicken Man had set everybody up. You're talking about some 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:39.280 pretty dangerous guys who was there, some gangsters. So they 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:43.600