Speaker 1: You're talking about some pretty dangerous guys. Who's there some gangsters.
Speaker 1: There are some pretty angry people there. I mean to
Speaker 1: lose their money and be disrobed and embarrassed like that.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't something that was was taken too lightly
Speaker 1: at all. It was such a night matter me. We
Speaker 1: don't want nobody here to get hurt. They knew what
Speaker 1: they were doing, the biggest hustling in New York, the
Speaker 1: biggest hustler there. They the biggest in Chicago, and unbread
Speaker 1: men and the food and get robbed. They made threats.
Speaker 1: I guess our family. They were gonna kill me, my
Speaker 1: little sister. They were gonna kill my mom. Their attitude
Speaker 1: of that power world, it's somewhere. One day they were say,
Speaker 1: they said, the man guys go to back from my
Speaker 1: Heart radio and doghouse pictures. This is fight night. I'm
Speaker 1: Jeff Keating. Chicken Man's world was turned upside down. The
Speaker 1: party that was supposed to set him up for good
Speaker 1: was over, and now he was living a nightmare. He
Speaker 1: knew that even if he survived the masked gunmen who
Speaker 1: forced him to undress and lie on the basement floor,
Speaker 1: that the gangsters who entrusted him to host this party,
Speaker 1: now have him on their minds. As the crowds continue
Speaker 1: to swell, the scene became too much for the robbers
Speaker 1: to handle. Here I am with James Martin, the owner
Speaker 1: of the house where the robbery went down. So James
Speaker 1: Gordon is now downstairs with everybody else, and the crowds
Speaker 1: are starting to increase in size as they are coming
Speaker 1: to the front door. And what happens is a large
Speaker 1: group James comes up to the house. They obviously see
Speaker 1: the curtains drawn, they hear the music, but because there's
Speaker 1: so many of them now, one of the men or
Speaker 1: women in the back of the group sees when the
Speaker 1: door opens a gun and yells it's a robbery or
Speaker 1: he's got a gun. Well, I would think that the
Speaker 1: neighbors would have reported it. We've got a cement walk
Speaker 1: away with grass on both sides leading up to the house.
Speaker 1: We've got a iron fence that is about two to
Speaker 1: three ft high with a big drop off towards the driveway,
Speaker 1: which means that you can't really jump or go to
Speaker 1: the right of the house if you're trying to escape.
Speaker 1: And they run next door to the left here and
Speaker 1: from what I heard. They started banging on the door
Speaker 1: loudly and eventually get somebody inside to call the police.
Speaker 1: We've got the people down there on Handy Drive with
Speaker 1: the walkie talkies. Because of the rise of the street.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they can see people in this
Speaker 1: yard right here. They can't see them rushing next door
Speaker 1: to call the police. Here's Chicken Man and j D
Speaker 1: discussing what happened when the party goers approaching the house
Speaker 1: saw the masked gunmen at the front door. People, but
Speaker 1: why the water run next door and one around across
Speaker 1: the stre your mother or two whatever these there was
Speaker 1: a lot of They caught it off. They said, this
Speaker 1: is it now. You went there already know what they
Speaker 1: were saying on the on the on the walk and talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot that they're about to walk our talk is
Speaker 1: and the guys and listen, we gotta get we got
Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. And nobody got hood
Speaker 1: and nobody want to get killed. And the man on
Speaker 1: the outside. I hear the man and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but come on out, come on out, come on out there. Okay.
Speaker 1: So they're making everybody stay down and they're gathering the
Speaker 1: acns whatever. And if the situation wasn't bad enough, they
Speaker 1: got even worse when the robbers decided to take hostages.
Speaker 1: Here's Chicken Man quoting what the robbers said to the
Speaker 1: victims lying on the basement floor to stay where you are.
Speaker 1: We're going out of here. We're gonna take two or
Speaker 1: three the women with us and we'll let them go.
Speaker 1: We don't want to hurt nobody. Just drive a talk.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna bother them or nothing. We're gonna protects them.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's the way they split. One of them
Speaker 1: was a girlfriend of mine who lived in Dials cant Baba.
Speaker 1: Here I am with James trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: the robbers made their escape with the hostages. That's where
Speaker 1: some of the robbers took off. Some of the robbers
Speaker 1: took off maybe the front, you know, James, this is
Speaker 1: what I really don't know. And that's the reason why
Speaker 1: they would have to have Barbara with them, because she'd
Speaker 1: had the calf the keys of the back door in
Speaker 1: order to get out, unless they made her already unlock
Speaker 1: it earlier in the evening, which I'm which I'm thinking
Speaker 1: they do that they know that they've got to get
Speaker 1: access to that back door. The reason I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: they took Barbara with them was beat to the unlocked
Speaker 1: the back door, So they probably took her down the
Speaker 1: steps and you know, she unlocked the door and they
Speaker 1: just took her whipon. My thought is because they had
Speaker 1: the getaway driver about four blocks down that they walk.
Speaker 1: You talk to him saying, hey, this thing is over,
Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. They zoom up here,
Speaker 1: maybe circle around in the cul de sac or whatever,
Speaker 1: They jump in the car and then go from there.
Speaker 1: I described to James the characters who were signed to
Speaker 1: greet the party goers at the front door, specifically the
Speaker 1: ruthless leader and main muscle in charge of the robbery crew,
Speaker 1: fast Eddie Parker. Fast Eddie Parker would have been one
Speaker 1: of the gunmen at the front door, holding a three
Speaker 1: fifty seven with a silencer. The other gunmen would have
Speaker 1: been McKinley Rogers holding a sawed off shotguns. These guys
Speaker 1: grew up in Brunswick, Georgia, and ended up in New
Speaker 1: York as hustlers working together. Fast Eddie became the enforcer
Speaker 1: for Richard Wheeler, a k A. Cadillac Ritchie, one of Cadillac.
Speaker 1: Ritchie's girlfriend's Jackie, described fast Eddie as a terrible man.
Speaker 1: He was about thirty six years old. He wore a
Speaker 1: short brimmed hat, and he always carried around a black bag.
Speaker 1: When George Plimpton, who wrote Shadow Box, asked Jackie if
Speaker 1: she ever looked in that black bag, she said, God, no, God, no,
Speaker 1: oh Lord, there could have been a head in that bag.
Speaker 1: So these are like real gangsters that I've seen the movies.
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't even sound real. That actually happened. These
Speaker 1: were tough men with serious violent acts in their pasts.
Speaker 1: They had spent years doing stick up robberies in New
Speaker 1: York and now they were in the middle of the
Speaker 1: biggest heist of their lives. Here's j D with Chicken Man,
Speaker 1: guessing what the robbers did when the party became overcrowded
Speaker 1: and too much to handle. Then they started leave. They left.
Speaker 1: Now you may know more about the night they left.
Speaker 1: What what? What? We'll go ahead, they left. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that when they left the delays people who left the party.
Speaker 1: Rober left must have been Bucky Brown and that gal
Speaker 1: who's taking a ship off women. Okay, here I am
Speaker 1: with James as we retraced the steps of j D's conjecture.
Speaker 1: Bookie Brown and Lillian Dabney were downstairs making their escape
Speaker 1: through the basement door. It's important to understand, James. We
Speaker 1: know that Frank Morten probably had a bodyguard waiting in
Speaker 1: a car on Old No and could have seen anybody
Speaker 1: coming out this back or and going through the backyard
Speaker 1: to that street. So we're walking into the back yard
Speaker 1: at the house now and going to retrace the steps
Speaker 1: of some of the robbers as they're doing their getaway.
Speaker 1: So it was all of this was open anyway. There
Speaker 1: was no offense on this back end, so they were
Speaker 1: definitely able to go through the backyard to get to
Speaker 1: the to the back street of oh No in order
Speaker 1: to get away. I'm assuming, James, that's a very good assumption.
Speaker 1: You've got a clear shot of Old No. How far
Speaker 1: do you think that is? Maybe thirty forty yards to
Speaker 1: the house and then another thirty forty yards, So I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about one football field maybe from the
Speaker 1: back of the house to Old No. Where there would
Speaker 1: have been another card somehow. As the robbers leaving with
Speaker 1: this third woman, he sees that there is a getaway
Speaker 1: car and he drops the girl and the gun and
Speaker 1: the satchel. He tells the woman, Hey, baby, I gotta
Speaker 1: get out of here. I gotta drop you now and
Speaker 1: grab some leather, something to that effect. But what's important
Speaker 1: to understand is that he basically has to leave her
Speaker 1: and the satchel and the shotgun at the scene of
Speaker 1: the robbery, and that's eventually what leads the police to
Speaker 1: their first clue. The robbers had made their escape and
Speaker 1: taken two hostages with them, Barbara Smith and another lady
Speaker 1: from New York. Chicken Man and all the other hustlers
Speaker 1: and gangsters were half naked and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what the hell just happened, and they were about to
Speaker 1: do the police, who were going to start asking them
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. Here's Jad and Chicken Man explaining
Speaker 1: to me why none of the victims wanted to report
Speaker 1: the robbery. They were all hustless and everybody's waiting to
Speaker 1: hear about him day behind. The rest would have gone crazy.
Speaker 1: They put them all intoil, the local deals put him
Speaker 1: into him. Everybody wanted them. They knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1: They robbed it because they know we if if that
Speaker 1: don't happen. The people don't call the police because the
Speaker 1: robber and they come in and robber, everybody leaves and
Speaker 1: none of us don't call the police. It was such
Speaker 1: a night matter me because the boys thing could have
Speaker 1: happened has already has happened. The worst thing that could
Speaker 1: have happened has already happened. That's what Chicken Man told
Speaker 1: me when I interviewed him in two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: Are now, if you're Chicken Man, right now, your head
Speaker 1: is spinning. You're thinking, what am I gonna do? What's
Speaker 1: gonna happen to me? What's gonna happen to my family?
Speaker 1: What the hell just happened? And what are Frank Moten
Speaker 1: and all these hustlers thinking? Just went down? Because if
Speaker 1: I'm Chicken Man, I'm thinking that they're thinking that I
Speaker 1: did it. Here's Chicken Man describing the scene in the basement.
Speaker 1: Once the robbers were gone. See what did it took
Speaker 1: everybody pocketbook and stretched shredded it. Like you know, you
Speaker 1: look through all the compartments. So everybody driving lies here
Speaker 1: was all in the middle flow among all the other cards,
Speaker 1: and then all this thing and I mean it is
Speaker 1: through the long patent. Well, that's when everybody got a
Speaker 1: chance to see who was really there, because otherwise when
Speaker 1: you when you came in, they put their face down
Speaker 1: to the floor, so you didn't know. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: some more people on the other side of you. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know who they were. They mean the girls.
Speaker 1: Now they had about eight chair a little make sure
Speaker 1: the bob we had. They had the girls sitting up
Speaker 1: on the bar, all the girls, just to fill up
Speaker 1: the school. Yeah, it's good, but everybody else was on
Speaker 1: the floor. That's when I realized that some of the
Speaker 1: people who were there where I know him from different
Speaker 1: places New York or were having because they did the invitement.
Speaker 1: I didn't know everybody. At some point after the robbers left,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing chicken In and Frank Molten must have exchanged words.
Speaker 1: This is a quote from The Black Godfather in George
Speaker 1: Plimpton's book shadow Box. We couldn't hear the radios no more.
Speaker 1: People slowly got up and looked around. Then they tried
Speaker 1: to find their clothing. It lay there in a tall
Speaker 1: pile like a rummed sale, and people were calling out,
Speaker 1: I got so and so's credit cards, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember much laughing. I recall the Chicken Man was wearing
Speaker 1: a pair of long underwear, and someone came up and
Speaker 1: said that if he was wearing long underwear, he must
Speaker 1: have known he was going to spend the night lying
Speaker 1: on the cellar floor. He was prepared and man that
Speaker 1: meant he was implicated. Chicken Man was looking guilty. The
Speaker 1: newspapers would report the claim that Chicken Man was wearing
Speaker 1: long John's. It could be the second most damning evidence
Speaker 1: that Chicken Man was involved in this caper. The first
Speaker 1: was that he owned the house where the party took place.
Speaker 1: Here's Chicken Man and j D reflecting on the mistake
Speaker 1: the robbers had made. The attitude at that time where
Speaker 1: they worth about the robbers. They worried about the doing.
Speaker 1: The embarrassment they did have nothing else made them do mad.
Speaker 1: Their money. Didn't mean about that money, boy making the
Speaker 1: warm un addressed boy, I didn't give about the money.
Speaker 1: They didn't give a damn, but didn't get they said
Speaker 1: the money. The robbers fled the party house on Handy
Speaker 1: Drive with over a million dollars in cash and jewelry
Speaker 1: and took three hostages with them. Dozens and dozens of
Speaker 1: people had been robbed and they were in shock. But
Speaker 1: as they began putting their clothes back on and rummaging
Speaker 1: through the pile of belongings on the floor, they realized
Speaker 1: they had no way to leave. Their car keys were gone.
Speaker 1: Here's the conversation between Chicken Men and j D describing
Speaker 1: when the cops first arrived on the scene. So when
Speaker 1: the police calm, I'm days. They took cockys mad from
Speaker 1: Acne come out there and stayed out there half of
Speaker 1: day making keys. So they all the cockies. But when
Speaker 1: the police coming, they didn't know nobody. Brother nicks on
Speaker 1: me so checking what you're doing here? This is your
Speaker 1: house now When when I look up, I see you
Speaker 1: to bird because the people trying to find the driver
Speaker 1: lines and the women drawings over here. So when the
Speaker 1: police come, so they just asking no questions. You know
Speaker 1: you said the robber went that way, ain't there with
Speaker 1: an about the net And I got to get my
Speaker 1: ass out of there. Brother, this none of go kiss
Speaker 1: the robber. If you find it, then come back with no.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. So when the man run into me,
Speaker 1: you take a man, and so he started asking me questions.
Speaker 1: So I said, listen man the robber that happened that
Speaker 1: people got the money. People come there and stuff and
Speaker 1: stuck all of us up. So I'm I'm telling what
Speaker 1: the New Yorkice telling. Don't ask me nothing. The robber
Speaker 1: went that way. Kiss the robber my understanding. I think
Speaker 1: we're go way and covering the frank. I found out
Speaker 1: that the people were from everywhere. I was always sure
Speaker 1: of that. But after they back to the fair cover
Speaker 1: then they began to leave anybody's As the hustlers and
Speaker 1: gangsters tried to find transportation to leave Chicken Man's house,
Speaker 1: he was still in shock and worried sick about Barbara
Speaker 1: and the other lady taking hostage. I took him up
Speaker 1: there no side and bank here and the boba said.
Speaker 1: The guy said, if I uh said, baby shows nice
Speaker 1: and everybody at the time, I just kill you on
Speaker 1: win me and then uh and give him well are
Speaker 1: you gonna get back? And then him twenty hours or something.
Speaker 1: The kids a cab to come back through the house.
Speaker 1: They let them go, Let them go. It's unbelievable, well
Speaker 1: that Barbara and her friend would be able to find
Speaker 1: a cab at around three in the morning on a
Speaker 1: dark deserted street. Some reports say they picked up a
Speaker 1: ride from some late night partiers still celebrating Ali's victory.
Speaker 1: In any case, Barbara and her friend made their way
Speaker 1: back to the house on Handy Drive while Chicken in
Speaker 1: watched the gangsters who were robbed gathered their clothes and leave.
Speaker 1: Someone were just trying to get to a bus stop
Speaker 1: or whatever they want to get back to the hotel
Speaker 1: with all of us was checked in and somebody's hotel.
Speaker 1: None of them lived, so and we called cabin and
Speaker 1: cav came, and cavs came. The attitude at that time world,
Speaker 1: they didn't they work about the robber. They didn't know
Speaker 1: the robber to mistake. It's somewhere one day they were paid.
Speaker 1: You know a guy, the biggest hustler in New York,
Speaker 1: the biggest hustler now the biggest in Chicago. Have none
Speaker 1: dressed the flo and get robbed. I mean the restaurant life.
Speaker 1: He's been ratified. Who who who did that? And he's
Speaker 1: gonna kill it. That's what we told me. Everything. It
Speaker 1: was these guys going to back after the robbers left
Speaker 1: and before Leach came to the house with your hotel
Speaker 1: because I was I was bumped. I was out of
Speaker 1: the Next morning, while Chicken Men was at a hotel
Speaker 1: sleeping off the horrors of the night before, one of
Speaker 1: the hustlers who got robbed was in front of his
Speaker 1: house being interviewed by WSB and this feels long goo
Speaker 1: to me, and the show said stick your hands up.
Speaker 1: I said, man, stop jabbing and hit him. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm not jabbing better, and he pushed me around to come.
Speaker 1: When he pushed me around the corner, and he's told
Speaker 1: me this was to shut down to my head, and
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not There's not no stage, Joe. I'm
Speaker 1: not jabbing. I'm for real. And when he said that,
Speaker 1: I was really to push him in a no because
Speaker 1: I just had It's all the fact. And by that
Speaker 1: time two or three more filers came out. Was shutting
Speaker 1: and as I said, he's not jabbing. When Chicken Men
Speaker 1: finally gets up and leaves the hotel, he stops off
Speaker 1: and gets a newspaper. He was surprised to see his
Speaker 1: face on the cover. This is the same article my
Speaker 1: father showed me at the Decatur Library almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: And when I came out to the hotel and next morning,
Speaker 1: my pictures on the front page of the paper talking
Speaker 1: about the dribber and and they put a cash mount
Speaker 1: on it, on the robbery. So I called his lawyer.
Speaker 1: But it made news. Why newspaper all over the time.
Speaker 1: See my picture on the paper, and if people robbed us,
Speaker 1: and we're robbing you know. And but I knew what
Speaker 1: that meant. When it is like I had robbed the people,
Speaker 1: it's like I had set it up. Here is a
Speaker 1: piece from the Atlanta Journal on October nine, which describes
Speaker 1: the estimated take from the robbery. According to Lieutenant Bird,
Speaker 1: one of the first detectives that showed up at the heist,
Speaker 1: one of the gunmen threatened the guests with this warning
Speaker 1: and I quote, if you raise your head, I will
Speaker 1: blow it off. End quote from the same article, and
Speaker 1: I quote one of the guests informed me that is
Speaker 1: lost in jewelry alone was about twenty thousand dollars. There's
Speaker 1: really no way to set the exact loss, since the
Speaker 1: majority of the victims refused to file official complaints. However,
Speaker 1: several said it would be a hundred thousand and two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars or possibly more. End quote. The total
Speaker 1: hall from the robbery would increase over the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: We know the partygoers did I want to talk to
Speaker 1: the police because that would lead directly to the I R,
Speaker 1: S and FBI asking questions. We also know that Chicken
Speaker 1: Man was the key suspect in the robbery. And the
Speaker 1: next day J. D. Hudson was assigned to the case
Speaker 1: by the Chief of Police, Herberty Jenkins, and the chief saying,
Speaker 1: Lutana Hudson is running this damn fame. He directly to
Speaker 1: me and we are not shape the chief shape in
Speaker 1: the mass THO out about that, and he never make
Speaker 1: me sense things right right there at that I need
Speaker 1: the chiefs etect was superlim of the okay, that was
Speaker 1: the text. And Lieutenant and you were Detective Blue Tenant
Speaker 1: and so was he supposed to have He was your boy.
Speaker 1: But now boom, his boss is telling him that you're
Speaker 1: in charge of the investigator and I report to him,
Speaker 1: and you were bort to the chief and what was
Speaker 1: the chiefs name back then, Perty Jenkins. The chiefs called
Speaker 1: me and told me you want to be to get
Speaker 1: the case because none of the huspal talked to the police.
Speaker 1: We'll not talk to the robber intective, we'll talk to anybody,
Speaker 1: and so I started the investigation. When the robbery happened,
Speaker 1: he took charge. Chief of Police Herberty Jenkins, gave J. D.
Speaker 1: Hudson a partner, Lieutenant Joe Amos. Amos was working international
Speaker 1: security at the time, but they were both pulled off
Speaker 1: their regular assignments and worked this robbery case together for
Speaker 1: the next several weeks. I remember when day I was
Speaker 1: coming down Mind of the King and it was shouted
Speaker 1: after the rocks. I was visible when they were the robbery.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get out of side for five minutes because
Speaker 1: I don't want to people think I didn't gonna count
Speaker 1: of money and him and Amos was prob turned around
Speaker 1: on the sen and uh. He wanted me to come
Speaker 1: down to the station and identify somethings as I did.
Speaker 1: H I don't want to knew it that y'all got
Speaker 1: him do what you can would then robbed me. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to see rob well, you know what
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want to talk to you to
Speaker 1: see could you have us figure out who the robbers were?
Speaker 1: Because I knew that I don't know what you was convinced,
Speaker 1: but I was convinced that you were not involved because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I was able to place you in
Speaker 1: the fight. J D. Hudson new chicken Man was at
Speaker 1: the fight, so he assumes he had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the robbery. How about people who were at the party,
Speaker 1: did he know any of them? Here's J. D. Hudson
Speaker 1: and Chicken Man talking about that. I was never really
Speaker 1: told who all was there for his blacke mank I
Speaker 1: didn't want I didn't want to know. I couldn't know
Speaker 1: who was there and what they did and also find
Speaker 1: out what happened, because if I started planning to finding
Speaker 1: who these people were and what that that what they
Speaker 1: did in life, they would have told me a damn BA,
Speaker 1: don't read people. They were talked to. That we got
Speaker 1: people to talk to us is because the local hustitals
Speaker 1: told him that agree with people, uh that we talked to,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh no, they could trust it. And
Speaker 1: you know, you had to. You had to. You had
Speaker 1: to decide whether you want to be a basquat detect
Speaker 1: or racket racket detective, investigator or robbery. My nation was
Speaker 1: to investigator robbery and talking to some of the hustles,
Speaker 1: they told the guys who I was all about to
Speaker 1: be and that they could talk to me because I
Speaker 1: didn't care what they did. Wherever they were came from
Speaker 1: in their owners they asked for saying about we didn't
Speaker 1: want to better killed in the Atlanta but the chief strected,
Speaker 1: but don't get the better killer and anybody else killed.
Speaker 1: The next few days after the robbery, Chicken Man was
Speaker 1: trying to stay alive and clear his name with the press,
Speaker 1: the police and the gangsters that he assumed were trying
Speaker 1: to have him killed, and he was most concerned about
Speaker 1: his family's safety. Here's Gordon Williams Jr. Talking about the
Speaker 1: threats against their lives. People thought he was responsible. Everybody
Speaker 1: thought my dad set that party up. I mean it
Speaker 1: came out on the news, It came out everywhere that
Speaker 1: Chicken Man had set everybody up. You're talking about some
Speaker 1: pretty dangerous guys who was there, some gangsters. So they
Speaker 1: made threats against our family. We had threats about they
Speaker 1: were gonna blow our house up, they were gonna kill me,
Speaker 1: my my little sister, they were gonna kill my mom.
Speaker 1: You know, they were gonna kill us because my dad
Speaker 1: had taken their money. Fight night. It is a joint
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