WEBVTT - Childcare with Jon Brion 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:09.760 Rom bargenpo podcast It's fun. But how pay podcast it's 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:18.120 him and now Prombag podcast It's hot. Oh yeah. Oh, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:22.840 by the way, one other thing that was another one 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.040 of our fabulous theme songs from the band Dawes. They 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.280 are just a great group of guys that I met 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.840 at the Olympic Auditorium during Mexican Wrestling night. H Those 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.400 guys are a hoot and they know their stuff. They 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.440 really know how to play instruments, which is important when 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.520 you want to start a band. Welcome back to our show. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.920 Anyone listening knows that a while back, I used to 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.320 be a doulah. Yes, for a few months or so, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.480 I worked in a small Polish village and I helped 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.600 deliver the babes no education or training. It was just 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.440 very intuitive and very knowledge jible. And if you're ever 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.720 in Poland and you find yourself in a beautiful small 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:08.199 town called Malburg, pop into their local elementary school. You'll 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.119 find a whole classroom of children I delivered. They're doing great. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.400 One kid still has his unbilical cord. Actually, Alexander, he's 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:23.560 like four, Um, Where's what's going on? Where's this story going? Oh? Yeah, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.520 Today's episode is on childcare. To the parents out there, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.199 you made a human. Now what you rinse them off? 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.040 You wrap them in a towel, then you you put 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.120 them down somewhere. And what do you do between meals? 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.759 Just sit there, read a book? How do you fill 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.280 the time with these strange creatures? That's your Is this 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.479 your childcare advice? Yes it is. But before we get 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.520 to all of that, let's read some of our online comments. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.880 Right Welcome to our online comments segment today. I actually 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.520 showed Ron our podcast page on Apple Music, and there's 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.520 a whole section where people can write in and tell 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.480 me how much they like me. Well, they can leave reviews, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:06.160 so that's it. Okay, they just leave reviews great, good, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.320 So a whole host of reviews, and we have the 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.280 page pulled up right here. So what I wanted to 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.480 say is that some of them might be not so nice. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.640 I mean, people actually tend to avoid reading their reviews 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.160 online because with every nice one, there's always a few 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.400 really mean ones, you know, So just something to keep 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:31.160 in mind. Run, are you listening, I'm reading? Okay, Oh look, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.400 this guy gave our podcast a star. He gave us 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:42.079 one star. He wrote garbage, terrible, trash podcast. See, this 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.760 is what I was trying to say. I'm confused. What 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.280 does he mean? Um? I think he's just saying that 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.600 our podcast isn't really his cup of tea. He's being confusing. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:57.040 I mean that comment is random, random alert. It seems 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.320 like he's out of his mind or on a bender 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.040 or something. You know. Let's just look at another one. Okay, Oh, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:08.720 here we actually have another star another one star review. Okay. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:14.679 It starts by saying stupid poop. Okay, well that's funny. 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:21.679 And he also said this is a poop podcast, worthless, shameful. Oh, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.920 who do you think he's talking about? Here? You for me? 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.800 I feel like I don't know. Well, it's about our show. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.440 It's not about me. Well, it's not about me. I'm 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.960 not stupid poop. Okay. I mean, can you for absolute 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.600 certain say that he's not talking about you specifically. I 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.400 think he just doesn't like our show. Okay, Carolina, Sure, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.000 it's about our show. Sure, Okay, one more. Let's look 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.960 at this one. Oh, this one gave us like eight 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:55.840 million stars stars, a constellation of stars. All right, this 0:03:55.880 --> 0:04:01.960 guy says, Ron is du man, dude, Wow, Ron's demand dude, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:09.400 Ron is demand. Are you just rereading it? Oh? My god? 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:14.120 Are you getting emotional? What can I say? He's a 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.920 good writer who said the art of criticism was dead. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.520 My god. The reviews are in and I'm the man. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.159 It's official, Carolina, We've got to do this more often. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.440 I mean, it says it says it right here. I'm 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.320 the man, and I think this was really helpful feedback. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:40.320 Do yeah, let's take a commercial break, Carolina and I 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.320 are going to toast some champagne over these reviews. Stay tuned, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.680 will be back with a childcare expert. Carolina, We did it. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.960 Welcome back to the childcare episode of the Ron Burgundy Podcast. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.840 Many people have been writing me asking for my experience 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.160 as a doulah and asking me how to take care 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.040 of their little ones. But what we decided to do 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.520 is to speak with another expert beside myself about some 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.440 of the most important questions of your life as it 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.200 pertains to children. So joining us here in studio is Liz, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.080 our childcare expert. Liz. Thank you for coming on the 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.920 podcast today, Thanks for having me. Thank you. Yes, and so, Liz, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:39.880 what exactly is your title? How should I address you? 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.360 You can address me as Liz, Okay, I can tell 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.360 you some of the things that I do every case. Yes, um, So, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.920 I run a developmental center for young children ages two 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.680 to five, and so we get to really be partners 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.360 with families um in their children's development and it's pretty wonderful. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:01.960 And we get to know the kids really well and 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.800 get to see them grow and develop over years. So 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:09.239 you know your stuff, I hope so. Yes. Um, Well, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.760 I'm a doula, so we're kind of cut from the 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:18.520 same close. What conversation topics do you broach with a baby? 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.479 You know, I don't know what they know or or 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.599 what they like. Hell, I don't even know anything about them. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.720 Great thing about talking to babies is every moment that 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.279 you're in relation with a baby, that you're connected with 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.680 the baby. They're learning how to exist in the world. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.760 So you can talk to a baby that proven. We 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:42.320 don't know that. We know that for sure. Babies they're 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:47.719 very smart. Okay, I think we'll agree to disagree on 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:52.440 that one. Have you seen a baby fly helicopter? That's 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:58.880 a good point. Yes, thank you, I appreciate that feedback. Yeah. Um, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.000 what's the best trap to get a baby to stop crying? 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.200 There are no tricks to get babies to stop crying. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.120 But babies are absolutely perfectly wired to be responsive to 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.600 soothing by a parent or a caregiver. So a baby 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.080 who stops crying as a baby who isn't hungry or 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.440 isn't hurting, or isn't exhausted, and so so they're trying 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.400 to express themselves and the only way they know how to, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:31.680 because they're not that smart, is to cry. Yes, so 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.960 like a bottle full of rum and coke, that's not 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.200 that's an old wives that's helped you. Yes, well, that's 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.240 what my mother used to do to me, right, and 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.040 you do sometimes still and tears. Have a sip of 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.240 rum and coke out of a baby's bottle that will 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.640 call me? That makes it feel more special? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.840 you feel and you feel really big when you're holding 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.679 it because it's small for a baby's hand. I didn't 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.440 realize that that's what was happening. From a psychological psychological 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:04.600 psych psychological psychological got it. And here's a question that 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.200 comes up a lot. I'm sure, how do you teach 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:12.440 your kids that farting is embarrassing. It's a really hard 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.760 thing to do because so much of our work with 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:21.160 little kids focuses on not pouring our shame and despair 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.120 at being humidating them. So there is a little moment 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.800 that you have to switch into, and it really is 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.320 how big they are, because it's how gross their farts are. Huh, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:35.559 So little fartstars are shame free. And then it's right 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.920 around that six year old birthday they get when it 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.200 gets nasty because it's individual for every chime. I mean, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.000 even as an adult, you know, farting is funny, but 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.880 it's not. We've had to talk to Ron about how 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:56.120 farting is. Ron parting is embarrassing, but it's got it funny. Now, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.720 how do you teach children leash manners? You know? Because 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.000 mine tugs at his when I take him to Disneyland. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.600 I put him on a leash and he just tugs away. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.880 How do you teach them don't pull on the leash 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.680 so much? The kids on leash is something that I 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.640 never understood until I actually started working with young children, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.360 and then I thought, wow, someone had a very smart idea, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.120 because how can you possibly keep them safe? So, like 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:26.000 teaching anything to a young child, you repeat, you model, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.600 you provide consistent support. So any treats. Do you give 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.079 them food treats? It depends. People may find this controversial, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:38.360 but I trained my child by giving walter kibble. Yeah 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.680 was it kibble? Or no? It was real kibble. Yes, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:47.280 you took a hated it. He didn't respond well, So 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.040 I turned kibble into milk duds, and then he learned 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:55.120 not to pull on the leash. By the way, has 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.960 anyone seen my kibble? Is my bag of kibble still 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:02.640 there in the studio? Someone took it. I snack on 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.679 kibble occasionally, But that's that's nothing to do with what 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.199 we're talking about. Um, what do you say when your 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.480 kids shows you a picture they drew and I don't 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.920 know how to phrase this and it's a piece of 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.000 s Do you tell them you like it? You know, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.079 I'll probably ask questions about it, just let's face it. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.880 Sometimes the letters are backwards and you know, you can't 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.319 even figure out what they're drawing, and that sort of thing. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.600 I'll find something in it that really grabs my attention 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.440 that I really like and start the conversation that way. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.119 I probably wouldn't lead with it's not meeting our quality standards. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.640 I told my son once when he was in third grade. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.559 And I meant this with nothing but affection. But watch it, dummy, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.200 Ron sent you a picture of Run that Run found unflattering. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.000 I'm not raising a mon net, that's for sure. Continue. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.880 Here's an interesting question. Well, my dad used to kick 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.640 me out of the car and have me walk home 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.840 when I was being a real sass mouth. Um, can 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.480 I have him arrested for child abuse today? You probably 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.880 can't have him arrested for child abuse today. But I'm 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.440 really sorry that happened to you. That must have been 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:21.000 really hard. Yeah, I mean, in hindsight, I kind of appreciate. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.720 I mean, he wasn't equipped emotionally with the tools to 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:28.120 kind of help me along. Um so, but it was Yeah, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.360 I was weird. Yeah, that sounds like that was really 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.080 really hard for you. Because this is before navigation or anything. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.680 How did you find your way home? Well? I didn't 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.360 for like a month. One year you lived with That 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.320 was when you said that that was your wolves year, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:50.280 that was my wolves, my coyote year. Yep. Um. But 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.000 speaking of my father, I mean, could I could I 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.160 literally send police to his nursing home right now like 0:11:55.200 --> 0:12:01.080 a swat team? No? Okay, okay, I was joking. By 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.199 the way, I would never do that unless you said yes. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.240 That's why I was really careful to say a firm no. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.280 I didn't want you to think that you could negotiate 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.240 with that. I wanted to be really strong so you 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.480 could feel really safe and secure with the answer that 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:19.320 I was giving you, which is no. Ron, what parting 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:26.439 is embarrassing, but it's funny, Liz, what's a trick or 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.080 um on terms of how to talk to children that 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.880 more you see most people do wrong? Is that too 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.440 broad of a question. Oh no, that's pretty top of 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:41.400 mind for me. Um. So adults parents are blowing it constantly. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.320 There are two things that when I see parents doing 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.480 that I know is really well meaning, I get really 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.120 excited about how to gently adjust them out of the habits. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.280 And the first is when parents say, use your words 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.520 when their child is having a tantrum or struggling. The 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.720 parent is trying to say, hey, we can talk this out. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.680 I'm here, I can listen to you. But what they're 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.680 actually saying is, you know that hardest thing for you 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.240 to do, the most difficult way that you have to communicate, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.240 use that right now while you're in a panic and 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.520 you're crying and you're struggling. Um, So instead of saying 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.360 use your words, all advise parents to offer their kids 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.240 what they know their kids are trying to say in 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.440 that moment. This is helping me so much because Ron 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.400 was having a tantrum earlier today and I did, I was, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.520 I was, I said your words, and he was having 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.160 it was there was he was trying to formulate the words, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.040 but they weren't coming. Now I see that was me. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.640 Let's walk through that. Let's do a do over on 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.680 Ron's tantrum and walk through what maybe you could do 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.880 the next time to help you guys stay connected in 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.800 that really hard moment. Is that okay? Yeah? Sure. So 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:57.840 Ron's crying, I'm just gonna let him go. So what 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.000 I would say right there is, Ron, I see you 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.000 looking for your bag of a kibble and you seem 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.680 really frustrated that you can't find it. Would you like 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.320 some help so we can look for your kidble together. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:17.760 It's I Ron, I still see that you're looking at 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.680 your kibble. I'd like to help you, but it's up 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:27.640 on a high shelf. You hm, partying is embarrassing by 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:34.160 your face. Sorry, that is sort of usually where it ends. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:40.720 I usually lash out and I always apologize. That's my 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.000 rule is seven days. I have to apologize within seven days. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.760 And I wait. I waited out, and sometimes it doesn't come, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.800 but sometimes it does, and sometimes it comes at the 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:56.600 eleventh hour, end of day six exactly exactly do children, um, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.760 have you ever been bitten by a child? I was 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.320 bitten by a child about thirty seconds before I left. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.400 Their teeth marks? Can you show I can't show you 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.960 the teeth marks, but there are teeth marks. There usually are, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:14.840 so they this this child really clamped on wow, and 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.920 it was great. It was one of my favorite moves, 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.360 which is the sneak attack, which is it's a pretend 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.960 leg hug and then I go, I fall for the hug. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:29.400 Every time that a misguided show of affection or was 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.600 it out of anger? In this case, it was a 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.640 child who just had too much kids inside the little 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.880 body at that moment, So it wasn't. This is a 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.960 child I have a great relationship with, We have a 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.080 good rapport which each other. He wasn't trying to hurt 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.560 people exactly, and he just got so fired up, too 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.240 much person in a little body, and I've got to 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.600 bite someone, so he chommed me right as I walked out. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:04.160 There is a famous football player, well soccer, Louise Suarez, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.920 and he's bitten players at opposing teams a couple of times. 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.200 What does that say about how was he raised as 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.480 a child? Do we do the tool of you just 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.800 bit me? I think you would say the truth of 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.320 what happened, you would label it, you would offer help, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.320 you would offer a boundary, and in that moment you 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.840 would have to say, I can't let you bite me. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.960 I can't let you bite me, Louise Sorez exactly, And 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.000 so it illustrates that it's and if you do it again, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:36.800 there'll be consequences exactly. Yeah. Gotta be funny if if 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.120 you ever had a chance to meet Louise Sourez in person, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.920 just bite him right away on the cheek, preemptively two 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.800 show that I was dominant for no, just like I 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.760 know your tricks. I'm gonna bite you before you can 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.200 bite me. I don't know if I would encourage that 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.240 strategy with adults or with kids. I see that sometimes 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.880 play out with very little hold on Liz. Sometimes you 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.600 are backed into a order in a certain situation and 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:07.240 you've exhausted all other ways of negotiation, and the only 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:08.760 way to get out of it is to bite someone 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.640 shark your way right out. We've all been there. They 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.640 messed up my order at Starbucks like three times one day, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.440 and finally I just reached across the counter and I 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.760 bit the young lady in the hand. I guess what 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.880 happened next time I came in They had my order right. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:33.720 So I'm just saying it's hard to I'm not I'm 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.320 not in support of it, but there are just sometimes 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:41.199 when it's the only option. Yeah, No, it's true. And 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.760 on occasion when I'm on a transcontinental flight and I'm 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:48.240 just bored, No it's a it's a red eye, we'll 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.560 just randomly bite someone on the foot and then scurry 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.919 back to my seat so they can't see that it 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.440 was you. Well, just to get it, just because I'm 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.520 bored up, all scurry like a little like a little 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.000 field now us back to my seat, giggling like a 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.200 school girl. Oh that's so. I wish you hadn't told 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.960 me that. There is nothing more pleasurable than hearing someone 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.560 up in first classgowing someone just bit me and knowing 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:20.320 it was you. But yeah, I've got my technics shots. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.320 So what's good at least well is we cannot thank 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.720 you enough. Thank you so much visiting us here. You 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.200 are providing a service that is invaluable to the youth 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.720 of America and to our relationship, and you helped us out. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:55.200 Yes exactly. Thanks again, thank you. And now for our 0:18:55.320 --> 0:19:00.560 nursery rhyme segment with composer and musician John Ryan. Welcome 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.400 to the podcast, John, how are you today. I'm very well, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.679 nice to be here. What do you say we we 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.520 kick it off with a little row row row your boat. Um. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.480 This is one I have fond memories of singing this 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.320 nursery rhyme with my mother as a little boy. She 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.160 used to sing it to me to entice me into 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.600 the tub when it was bathtime. And oh man, did 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.560 I hate bathtime as a kid. I just loved being 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.119 covered in dirt and sand and motor oil. You know 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.800 how kids today play with that slime stuff. When I 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.400 was a child, we didn't have slime, So I used 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.960 to play with a can of Pen's oil motor oil. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.840 I just poured all over myself, even into my mouth, 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.439 and laugh like an idiot. If I could If I 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.399 could have it my way, I would have stayed covered 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.920 in motor oil all day long. But Mom wouldn't have it. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.800 You just don't want a child covered in motor oil 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.679 rolling all over your white couch. Anyway, we would just 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.840 sing this during bathtime when my mom would help scrub 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:04.320 the motor oil off my tiny body. John, quick question 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.480 before we start. Did you play with motor oil as 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.160 a as a baby? Exclusively? That's what I thought, Carolina. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.480 How about yourself? Oh no, not come on, I just 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.720 not once, not ever. That might cause brain damage. I 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.480 think every child has had a fond memory of playing 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:33.040 with motor oil. John, why don't we start here? Road, road, Road, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:42.320 your boot gently down the stream, merely, merely, merely, merely 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:56.120 life is but it's lovely, just the way I remember it. Wow, 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.960 that was beautiful, short and sweet. Next up, hot cross Buns. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.080 This nursery rhyme is one I think we're all familiar with, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:07.680 and it's called hot cross Buns. I've always been interested 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.800 in the origin of nursery rhymes and these little songs. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.680 They seem to have existed forever in some shape or form, 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.040 usually a simple melody with simple lyrics dating back to 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.320 the nineteenth century. So I was curious about the history 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.639 behind hot cross Buns, so I looked it up on 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.760 the computer last night. This song was originally written ages 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.560 ago by a couple of guys you actually might be 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:36.080 familiar with. John Lennon and Paul McCartney recorded over two 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.000 sessions on July THIRTI, nineteen sixty two, one in the 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.760 morning and one in the afternoon. The final version of 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.600 hot Cross Buns were all familiar with is actually a 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:50.760 combination of the seventeenth and twenty first take of the song, 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.760 produced by George Martin and appearing on the Beatles second 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.680 UK album With the Beatles. It's just such specifically wrong 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.840 information with a little bit of Beatlemania. Children and adults 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.800 have been singing hot cross Buns ever since, So let's 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:15.880 give it a dry hot cross buns, Hot cross buns. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:22.639 One A penny to a penny, Hot cross buns. I 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:28.160 have no daughters, Give them to your sons, A penny 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:37.679 to a penny, hot cross bun. I'd like that you 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.960 did the version from the earlier take. Yeah, the Bootlegs, Yes, 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.080 thank you. Of course John Brian would know it's from 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.040 the Bootlegs. Carolina you had no idea. I guess I 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:51.399 need to be I don't know educated more on the 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.240 history of the Beatles. You just have to collect all 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.400 the imports. That's That's what it comes down to, collecting 0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:02.520 the imports. Okay, this next one, this is personally one 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.520 of my favorite nursery rhymes. I was. I was an 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.280 extremely colic a three year old, so my mother had 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.800 to sing this to me every night to fall asleep, 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.800 and boy did it work. Um John, I think you're 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.480 familiar with this tune as well. It's it's an it's 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.680 an old, old nursery rhyme. I believe it's an old 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.560 Dutch classic. It is, and it's called play in the Well. 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:35.520 No one knows what time it is. Everyone knows what 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:40.719 time it is. Time for a nap, no time for 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:46.800 a treat, no time to read a book. No, what's 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.720 that you say, Let's go play in the well. It's 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:54.600 a cold art of mourn, So let's play in the well. 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.360 We play in the well until the cold wind blows. 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:08.240 We play in the well, and the old lady knows. Joseph, Maria, Gertrude, 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:13.880 and Paul they never came back. They never came back. 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:20.520 At all, what's that you say, Let's go play in 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.840 the well. It's a cold autumn morn, so let's play 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:29.240 in the well. The old lady screams in the middle 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.879 of the night, she lost her hand from the wolves. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:40.800 What a fight? Joseph, Maria, Gertrude and Paul. They never 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:47.840 came back. They never came back. They never came back. 0:24:50.840 --> 0:25:00.840 Oh oh, it brings back such joy, really does. A 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:06.320 personal favorite of mine. It's so dark. It's dark, as 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.480 in like a cozy little bedroom, dark like Grandma's quilt. Yes, 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:17.000 it is dark. There's some blade runner um, I don't 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:21.240 think so. And then it's about four missing children. Actually 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.640 that one is actually based on a true story. Yes, 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.879 so sure, all right. This next one is probably the 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:34.120 most famous nursery rhyme I can think of. It's so famous. 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.760 I think if you went up to someone on the 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.960 street right now and pulled out a switchblade and held 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.960 it to their neck and screamed, name a nursery rhyde, 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.520 this is the one they would think of. Even in 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.760 the state of panic and tear of being randomly accosted 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.000 by someone with the switch blade, The first thing that 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.080 would probably pop into their head would be Twinkle Twinkle, 0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:00.000 Little Star. A fun fact about this song. It's it's 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:05.320 lyrics come from an English poem written by Jane Taylor. Wait, 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.600 that wasn't really a fun fact. Caroline asked you to 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.399 gather some fun facts about some of these nursery rhymes. 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.800 What's what's fun about that? It's hard to find a 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.679 fun fact. But the lyrics come from an old poem. 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.240 Some lady named Jane wrote, that's a fact. Who cares? 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.760 I don't know. It's not a fun fact. Try to 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.560 find something. We need to have a sidebar conversation about 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:33.440 what constitutes fun facts, because you could have just said 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.760 I couldn't find any fun facts. It's just a basic fact. 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.080 Because it set my expectation. You were exciting. I was 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.520 so excited for the fun fact, and it's just a 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.959 basic fact, all right, John, First of all, I apologize 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:53.720