WEBVTT - #187 - Jelly Roll 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.960 You know. The good news is I've just assumed we 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.360 were rolling. Now we're rolling. Yay, Right, we're fucking here 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.480 talking about mushroom gummy. We're talking about mushroom gummies and 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:10.680 how I was like, I'm gonna take six and he 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:12.559 was like, yeah, just take two. And what were you 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.680 saying about the type of drugs that you don't mind caring? 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.919 I don't mind carrying any drug that you can ingest. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.200 That is like an immediate no problem. It's like the 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.360 instant solving of the I don't want to we're getting 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.160 pull over, we're stressed out. I could solve the pucking. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.319 Let's everybody just split the pack in half, right, and 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:31.960 we're fucking We're all gonna be high, nobody's going to jail, 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.960 and we're gonna have a wild afternoon. We didn't expect, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.920 you know what I'm saying, Those are the best ones. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.920 Have you done that where you've eaten drugs before you 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.279 get pulled over? Yes, before the cops? Even I never 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.159 I didn't even get whipped one time. He just followed 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.560 me for so long. He took some fucking trooms. Oh wow, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.120 it took like a fucking whole fucking eighth. I mean 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.480 a whole fucking quarter. I like did the journey dog. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.840 I was just like, I was like, he followed me 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.720 for like twelve minutes. I was like, he's whipping me 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.520 at any moment, dude, I don't want to be caught 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.040 scrambling when he does, so I just and somen of 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.840 a bitch just bangs a hard left on me, like 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.120 he watched me take him like, Hahi, Patty, have a 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.920 good afternoon, bitch. Aren't those the best highs? Though? They're 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.080 like the best drunks, Like when you go somewhere and 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.480 you're like, I'm not gonna get drunk tonight, and at 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.000 that this morning, you got drunk this morning? Yep, Yes, 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.839 at seven fifteen this morning. You want to hear this story? Yeah, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.680 best story ever. We go get on our plane this morning. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.640 Our plane leaves at seven fifteen this morning. I'm on 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.480 like two or three hours of sleep. I am. I 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.520 hate flying. You've been a little sick too, I saw 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.200 I've been a little under the weather. I'm starting to 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.119 feel better because I took a steroid pack. I sit 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.120 down on the plane and the dude next to me 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.319 is just cool as fuck. And as soon as I 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.040 sit down. I'm joking. I get on the plane. I'm like, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.160 you're lucky contest the number one. You get the fat 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.440 guy next to you today. I know that's what he's thinking, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.680 right when I'm standing in the aisle. Tell me it's 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.400 not a plane full of people gonna please not me, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.960 not please, not me. And I'm like and I'm like, 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.320 you're it, buddy, I'm your guy. And I sit down 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.520 next to him, and across from us is a night couple. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.120 They're gay couple, really nice couple. They're cool, they're in it. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.960 We're all engaging. We got a little thing going on 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.919 this row. And before the plane takes off, the flight 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.359 attendant's like, anybody want to drink? Us was a long 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.679 flight and I was like, yeah, I'll tell you got tequila. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.120 He's like, well, I got the margarita shooters. So it's like, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.800 you know. He pours me a big, nice margarita. I 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.760 smack it. Do next to me smacks a vodka and soda. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.120 This is seven seventeen, this morning, flights leaving at seven twenty. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.880 We're drinking before the door shut on the plane. The 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.359 two dudes next to them, we're like, they get hype 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.600 They're just like, well they're doing it, we'll do it. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.760 So the two dudes are like, fucking bring us to 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.600 vodka sodas. You know how most times you would have 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.680 a flight attendant who like his job is to kind 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.400 of party police what's happening. We had the opposite flight attendant. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.280 He was a goddamn bartender. He would walk over and 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.359 be like, are we drinking or do I need to 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.080 twist an arm here or something? Fellas like gassing us up. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.440 We're like, fucking last week got the job. Yeah, It's 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.919 like and I did find out he's getting off for 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.200 four days. So he's like, brings us another drink. Now 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.079 we've just got to the seat belts off and I'm too. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.720 Marguerite's in. I don't drink vodka. I just drink tequilak. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.919 The guy goes, I'm like, mask, give me into gesture. Man. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.079 He was like the gay dude, sweetest dude on earth, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.680 goes all big Papa, I got you. Just follow me. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.520 Do what you did for me. It was a no vodka, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.519 throw a splash of soda. He won't even notice of 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.120 the common stomach down. It'll be the best thing to 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.400 happened to him. These dudes start getting me fucked up. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.840 We smacked like six vodkas. This dude was like giving 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.280 us last call before we dropped. When we're descending, he's like, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.720 I can legally give y'all one more. What do you think? 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.640 And everybody's like hooray. At this point, we're all blackout drunk. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.640 Almost the two dudes behind the couple are drinking with us. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.360 Now there's another girl behind them that's participating. Like the 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.400 entire front half of the plane is now getting just wrecked. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.680 This is amazing. It's dude. I pulled in like, I 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.800 don't remember anything about getting to where we're staying at, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.360 any of the sequences that happened, from how we get there, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.600 who drove us, We came and ate a big breakfast, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.320 and I kind of got back on my feet. I 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.920 was just sitting at the hotel pounding water when I 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.600 got your text and I was like, I'm almost sobered 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.680 up enough to go do this podcast. Well you're here. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.440 Yeah that sounds like a great morning man. Is that 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.200 not the best buzzes though? Yeah? For sure. I feel 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.920 like unexpected nights are unexpected, Like I feel like when 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.880 you go out and you're like I'm getting sucked up tonight. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.680 Usually those are the nights you end up like regretting. Yeah, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.839 you're like, oh fuck, wake up with a bad hangover, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.440 do some dumb shit exactly. But when you have no 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.760 when you don't plan on getting drunk with you know, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.520 a couple of gay guys in first class and just 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.200 get smacked. Yeah, oh we love each other. Now we're 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.960 texting each other. We're gonna go to dinner when we 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.640 all get back to Nashville. We're like friends, nice, this 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.320 is awesome. How's uh, how's how's everything with the family, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.560 how's the wifey? And she's killing her podcast, going crazy rushing. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.279 We should call the dumb blonde podcast dumb blonde podcast. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.400 We should have set it up for you to do 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.120 it while she was here. Yeah, she's killing it. She's 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.680 she's really crushed. Man. She was actually in Vegas this 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.960 whole week doing doing pods. So she just came over 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.600 to LA and met me today nine. But yesterday I 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.359 think she got her day before me to shop or 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:14.200 some ship. But are you like, uh, because I know, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.680 was it about two years she's been doing it? Yeah, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.680 she's the pandemic kind of triggered it. And you're just 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.880 kind of like you're like the unofficial like guest like 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.800 guest host. Yeah, whenever, yeah, just whenever. You know what's crazy. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.760 The bitch is so popular now she don't need me. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:29.880 When she first started potting and I was like I 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.920 would just fill in kind of whenever. And now I'm like, 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.400 can I get on your podcast? And I need a plug. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.359 I got a record coming out, I like, got some 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.159 shit going on I need to talk about. I got 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.839 like pencil me in so jelly, things are going well. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.280 You got Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow. I got Jimmy Kimmel. Dad. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.400 By the time this is out, I don't know. Yeah, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.359 by the time this is out, he'll be on You'll 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.800 be able to go on YouTube or look on some 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.479 yeah for sure. Uh yeah. How many plaques do we 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.560 got now the last couple of years? Save me Platinum? Right, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:05.960 save Me's platinum, Falling the Falls gold, Creature's gold. Same 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.320 asshole just got its certification. I think to be gold. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.120 I think the uh way then Willie two albums close 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.960 to being gold is the whole record wow, And I 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.279 think a beautiful disaster is closing in on it because 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.400 we've got like two more records off a Beautiful Disaster 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.640 that are closed to gold and right now you just 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.239 got this trying to look like this fucking place in here, Bubba, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.240 it's happening well. For people who don't know you, let's 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.520 give them a rundown. I've known you for about eight 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:41.280 nine years, but you are like a veteran for real 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.800 in this music shit. You have had many incarnations of 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.680 your career. You've had to go sit down for a 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.760 little bit. Yeah, get back out, but let's break down, like, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.159 how long have you been doing this shit? Like, I 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.720 guess how long have you been making money off of 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.919 because you started off. I mean, obviously you still do rapping, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.839 but you're kind of like people are kind of being 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.160 introduced to you as a country guy. Yeah, yes, you've 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.920 been doing this for a long time. Yeah. I had 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.920 an interesting thing happened to me just today, a guy 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.320 seeing me out in Hollywood, and he was like, YO, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.400 heard your song dead Man Walking on rock radio. I 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.320 became a fan. I love your stuff. I identified to 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.080 him as a rock artist mm HM, which went number one, right, yeah, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.480 went number one for multiple weeks, my first number one. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.520 And then you fast forward in the airport in Nashville today. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.239 I'm taking a picture with a couple at six forty 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.560 five this morning. Then when somebody goes back and goes, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.040 who's that, and he goes, he's a country artist, you know. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.760 But then it's like, I'm hanging out with Bootleg Keg. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.720 Who knows I'm a rapper? Right? You know? It's so funny. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.840 When we were pulling up all my guys have been 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.640 with me a long time. You knew a couple of them, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.120 and I don't know why I didn't tell them where 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:51.160 we were going. I was like, yeah, we're just going 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:52.520 to do a podcast. We pull up them like, Yo, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.280 we're going to do We're going to see Bootleg Kevin. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.280 I was like, that's the fucking home. He's been following 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.280 me for seven years because we met each other, you know, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.080 and it was just super cool to see that. So, yeah, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.040 it's been weird. We're kind of a format agnostic, that 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.880 is true. But what was like for you, like, how 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.480 many years in is this? You did it? What do 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.320 you mean you did it? You see that you look 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.560 at him smiling, he knows it, you did it. You remember, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.880 we're eating tacos outside of Saint Tacos. Sat Pete Floyda 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.600 and Saint Pete Florida, And yeah, I was out here 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.240 in l A doing the doing this, doing a shimmy 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.000 shuck at the time and trying to figure it out. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.520 And I'd had the record Sunday Morning yep, before Uncle 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.560 Cracker was before Uncle Cracker was on, when it was 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.760 just an acoustics trip down record, and you were like, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.880 what the fuck are you doing? You was like, go all, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.559 you just like started preaching to me at this little 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.640 taco bus and you were like, bet the farm on 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.160 this ship, this is what you need to do, this 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.920 is it, this is you were just like ringing it home. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.800 I can't remember Rich was with us that time or not, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.600 but I know we've seen Rich in the same circuit 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.160 around that time. And I was like I left there 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.640 thinking like, all right, fuck it, I want to just 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.280 an idea. I just went all the way in. Yeah, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.559 that Sunday Morning record was crazy. It's still crazy. I 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.679 wanted to do it so fire. I love that song. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.240 It's yeah, I like the like the O G version 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.360 that you would just play me. No, for sure, it 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.400 was like a real it was unplugged right, It was 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.440 like just literally brought it, I mean saved me, Yeah, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.440 for sure, exactly. Literally, I got something I played before 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:23.800 we leave. I got I want to play I'm so 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.760 excited about I bet. Yeah. That was like in twenty 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.880 That was like twenty fourteen. That was like when you 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.640 what was the name of that white dude would always 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:35.040 book all y'all in Saint Pete Fuck keV, Big kevog cav. Yeah, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.640 I just seen Big keV when we went down there 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:41.040 and played, uh, what was the rock Fest? We played 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.920 the rockyuad They're gonna hate me. Fucking forgive me, y'all. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.880 I'm hungover. I'm day hungover. It's different. Yeah, it's so 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.760 different when you got drunk at nine am. But we 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.080 played No No No that We played that one after that. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.160 But it was the Tampa Rock Station. Yeah, it's rock 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.720 Fest or something whatever the name of that station was 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.839 down there in Tampa. The rock station. Fucking anybody should know. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.160 You should know what's name. It's only rock station something 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.960 X ninety eight X. I think yeah, X might have 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.680 been X fast or something like that. That sounds about right. Yeah, whatever, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.640 a Ryan, we kicked it. We had a ball. But anyways, Yeah, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.400 I just I've just seen big Kevvy came out to 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.280 see us, sir, But like I want to kind of 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.720 give people like a real idea of like how long 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.400 this journey has been for you, because like you were 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:31.280 also independently very successful before you and I met, you 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.760 had a following. You know what I'm saying, Like, this 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.679 ship is very it feels like what it is like 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.520 twenty years in Yoh, for sure. I realized how old 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.000 I was listening to you and Caskie's podcast when Caski, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.920 who's a dude that's been around for a long time now, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.120 referenced me as the first dude he did a song with. Yeah, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.960 and I was like, I am fucking old. I was like, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:56.720 it's happened. I became home, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.880 Cassie's been around a long time. Yeah. Yeah, So what 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.760 was like, you do you remember, like what was the 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.400 first project? What was that year I came I got 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.880 released from jail the last time that I had to 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.200 do a bid in two thousand and nine, and I 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.440 put out the ten minute freestyle which we were talking 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.280 about off camera that if my po ask I hang Drywall, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.240 which we still sell those shirts on jelly Roll six 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.040 one five dot com and I remember putting it on YouTube. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.000 My dude had a flipcam chat arms. Yeah. I just 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.360 was watching the YouTube video like two weeks ago. Yeah. Well, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.680 we didn't realize the power of YouTube now, mind you. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.680 I was putting out mixtapes while I was in and 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.200 out of jail before that old school CD spindles. You 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.640 were part of this era, like we're running around passing 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:46.240 out five dollars like straight off the spindle, handwritten jelly roll, right. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.840 So I did that and then my introduction to the 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:54.520 internet was about two thousand and nine and he filmed 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.920 that ten minute freestyle and uploaded it and it went crazy, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.160 especially for that era because then me and Little White 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.400 ended up doing Pop Another Pill because White it reached 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.040 out to me right after I got out of jail, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.800 and then we did the Snow project with JUICYJ and 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.680 DJ Poulin Project Pad, and we had all that history 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.200 with three six Mafia at that time and all that 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.400 stuff we were doing. And I remember me and Little 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.360 White as shots popping another pill video of Mike Busy 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.840 and Panama City Beach. This is back when World Star 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.199 hip Hop was god right. We submitted it to World 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.120 Star Hip Hop and I'll never forget this. They said, hey, man, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.120 we only post videos that go viral. First time I 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.120 heard the word viral, and we were like, well, define viral. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.079 And in the email back they said, thirty thousand views 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.520 in a week on YouTube. That's it. That's how inf 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.160 You still had to go to a desktop computer and 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.400 type in www dot YouTube dot com. Yeah, you know 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.200 what I'm saying. So it's like it was in such 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.959 its infante stages that we ended up doing fifty thousand 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.720 views in three days. So they put it on World 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.080 Star and that was the beginning of that. That was 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.080 like one of my first eraors. You know what I'm saying. Damn, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.360 I feel like post jail. If you don't count like 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.640 the seven mixtapes I did, how long were you in jail? 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.000 Every time was a different amount of time, from fourteen 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.559 to twenty four, probably seven and a half to eight years. Shit, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.200 So just kind of in and out. Do a year, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.360 come home for six months, do a year, come home 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.240 for four months, dude, drug shit, everything from you know, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.000 I don't I'm not proud of any of it. It's 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.560 public information, so well it's a good thing, you know. Yeah, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.440 But everything from gun charges, the drugs to a robbery case. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.920 Do you remember, like what, because you know you know 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.520 people like this. I know people like this that have potential, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.040 that are talented, but for whatever reason, they just get 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.360 stuck in that back into jail. It the revolving door 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.800 of the judicial system. Like what was the breaking point 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.120 for you where you were like, Nah, this is enough, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.840 I gotta get my shit on track. It's so cool 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.880 talking to you because we know each other so personally, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.040 you know. But it was my daughter Bailey was born 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.080 in two thousand and eight, so one of those times 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.640 where I was out of jail, I had gotten a 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.760 young woman pregnant, okay, and then Bailey was born while 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.959 I was in jail. And then the old Southern Baptist 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.400 term that was my Damascus Road experience where Saul turned 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.200 to Paul. I'll never forget. I was in like the 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.920 gang unit, like the like worst dorm you could be 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.960 in in jail at the time because I was just 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.199 running the poker table and gambling and not you know, 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.680 I was just fucking doing time. And the day they 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.640 knocked on my door and told me Bailey was born, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.160 I signed up to go to the education unit try 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.000 to get my ged I don't know what, just like 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.000 I scrambled out of nowhere. I was just like, I 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.160 got to figure this shit out right now. And I 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.520 ended up having to do like another year. But whenever 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.240 I came home, you know, that was it. We started 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.240 off to the races. Yo. Uh you're like, uh, you know, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.360 I feel like the Rock taps in with a lot 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.320 of artists that I happened to know, but he really 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.920 fucks with you. It's my dude, Rock has been fucking 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.520 with you like for like five six years now. It's crazy, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.960 like he posts your ship all the time, all the time. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.720 He is just he's a Nashville dude at heart. Low key. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.320 He's like he traveled so much as a child that 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.720 he has a lot of places he's really connected with, 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.880 and by luck of the Beast, Nashville is one of them. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.800 So he really kind of connects to our scene and culture. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.400 Like he gets guys like me. And he told me early, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.880 he was like, yo, I know guys like you from Nashville. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.480 So man, you had this talk early, like Nashville was 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.040 kind of famous for that white boy trap rap shit. Yeah, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.640 it was like yourself was Haystack from for sure, Nashville boy, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.480 he was ahead of us. Haystack kind of led the 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.000 charge on that, and there was so many you know, 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.160 we had a band before Haystack called rud Awaken and 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.120 Chris Taylor, which is like an uncle or cousin of ours, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.520 me and my brother, and it's like little whites from Nashville, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.080 little whites from Memphis, down the street Tennessee. It's all 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.400 that kind of you know. So he was like, I 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.680 get the culture of the city. He was like, people 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.840 won't get it at first, but trust me, it'll it'll work, yeah, 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.600 because there was like this like Nashville white boy, dope 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.520 boy shit going on that I like you said, it 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.440 was very like you had to be from there to 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.520 really understand like what kind of dude you were at 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.720 the time, for sure, which is why we popped in Florida, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.200 because Florida and so many white boys like that. So 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.840 it's like when you went to Saint Pete, you were 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.200 just like it was a town full of them, you know, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.280 for Largo and all that stuff. The old gasoline alley 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:18.960 bar we played down there back in the day. The 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.000 thug crackers, crackers, you know what I'm saying. You remember this. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.160 So it was like CASKI. There was so many kids 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.280 that was that that culture came to, like Florida and Georgia, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:35.480 the South, especially just immediately in the midwest Indiana. Ohio, dude, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.560 it was like first market ever for us. It's like 0:16:37.640 --> 0:17:43.480 second home for me. Still. Ohio is like a it's 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.720 a weird place, man, because because it's like in the 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.520 middle of the country, it's like not quite like the South, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.919 but it feels very like it kind of feels like 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.240 a country place sort of. Yeah. Well, you know it 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.240 is when you you go thirty miles outside of any 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.359 of the major metropolis and Ohio and you might as 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.440 well be in Mississippi. It's that fast. I mean, you're 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.760 in Cincinnati and then you blink your eye and you're 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.760 in fucking South Mississippi. That's crazy. You're like, what the 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.960 fuck just happened. It's insane, But it's brand it's own 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.080 culture up there in Sound too. Yeah, for sure. Ohio. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.040 Shout out to Doobie, shout out to Immediate Him and 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.000 Highlight have pioneered an entire culture out of Columbia. I 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.240 met Doobie for the first time when he was running 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.040 around on the road with you. Yeah, in St. Pete, Florida. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:28.920 That's another thing that came up in an interview of yours, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.399 where I was like, I'm fucking old. I mean, you 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.160 know you ain't that old. God if you fucking make 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.480 me feel it when you interview these young dudes, you're like, yo, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.440 I met you ten years ago with Jelly, I'm like, fuck, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.040 I'm old. Well, you know what's great is you're now 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.080 making country music. Which country and rock music. I feel 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.480 like it doesn't matter how old you are, it's definitely timeless. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.080 I swear rap music. I feel like, you know, you're 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.520 gonna always have a niche audience. But hip hop is 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.119 all about well, what's new, What's next? You know? I 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.560 was telling somebody what I'm anxious to see is the 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:05.439 I watched the Mount Westmore Tour come to Nashville and 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.720 sell out the Bridgetone Arena thirteen thousand, seven hundred tickets yep. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.280 And then I watched the Legends of the Street tour 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.720 come to Nashville, Jeezy coucy Tz sell out, Boozy sell 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.840 out thirteen thousand, seven hundred tickets. It's the first time 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.800 in life that we're seeing hip hop translate generationally right, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.320 and like oldiest hip hop for sure, because like back 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:27.800 in the day, that's what they say. This will never 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.639 make it to arenas. Nobody will care to see this 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.159 show in twenty years, and people are seeing it. I 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.080 want to see in twenty years from now, if Little 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:40.000 Dirk and Little Baby and the Baby can go sell 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.760 fifteen thousand tickets in every America, Right, it's going to 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.800 be fun to watch. Dude. It's like a stud into 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.520 the game because hip hop is so young when you 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.320 think about it, not even from the kids doing it, 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.440 Like just to think that Ice Cuban them was our 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.879 first reference point of watching hip hop grow with people 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.919 to the point that I just watch thirteen thousand white kids. 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.520 It's like we in their fucking forties. Those guys are 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:10.080 like are they're the first generation of hip hop guys 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.280 to be fifty? Yeah you know what I mean. It's crazy, right, Yeah. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:15.919 I didn't think about it until I was there and 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.479 I was like, this is nuts. Yeah, Like, dude, I 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:23.240 was born when Nwa was getting active. I was born 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.760 in eighty seven, yeah for sure, so a little bit before. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.400 But I was born a little bit before, a little bit, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:37.280 just a little bit much, not much an hair. What's 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.239 been like, you know, since you've kind of been on 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:42.840 this run in the last couple of years, what has 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:44.800 been the coolest thing that you've got to experience? Because 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.760 you've showed out some big shows you've been a part of, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.120 like some crazy you've just been I mean you're about 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:50.800 to do Jimmy Kimel tomorrow, you know, Like, what's been 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.600 some something that's where you just kind of had to 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.119 pinch yourself one of those moments we're like, damn, this 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.760 is pretty fucking cool. Uh. The first time that when 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.760 we got invited to the Grand Old was just the 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.320 history of the Grand Old Opry. And I'm letting somebody 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.920 that represents our community and our kind and our culture, 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.879 you know, because like, regardless of how much I messed 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.560 the music together, I'm a hip hop kid and I 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.439 always will be. I'm a student of the game. I 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.040 love hip hop and I was the first rapper to 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.520 play the Grand Old Opry even though I sung it's 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.720 like still there's a thing there, the first local rapper 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.640 because Nashal's had a lot of big talent come out 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.480 to sell out the Rhymen Court. For me, yeah, we 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.680 are like thirty five no bullshit tickets away from selling 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.560 out Red Rocks in October. So that's a that's Denver. Yeah, 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.959 you gotta come out October twenty third. It's gonna be nuts. 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.320 You're headlining, that's gonna be crazy. It almost sold out 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.080 and we're playing. You know, we're headlining my arena in Nashville. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.280 Did you've seen this? Put You've seen it? Yeah, this 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.560 is crazy, So we're gonna headline. That's another one that 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.280 was they're all wild moments. Yeah, I saw that big 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.600 show you did last year in Dallas and crazy insane. No, 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.840 for sure. We just sold seven thousand tickets at a 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.760 hockey arena sold out in Kalamazoo the day of the 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.840 on sale being Struggles just played it the other day. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.400 It was fucking nuts. I just did twenty thousand people 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.719 at tailgates and Tall Boys co headlining with Riley just 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.119 every everything about it's just like, what in the fuck 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.640 is happening? What are the things that you're noticing being 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.840 in the country industry now? Because it is You've lived 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:28.639 in Nashville, so I'm sure it's not. It's never been 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.080 too far away, but it's a different game. Like I 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.359 feel like country is one of the I know people 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.320 who do country radio and they get treated like fucking 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.280 royalty by the artists and by by like the labels. 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:44.280 It's crazy. Well, you know, people still buy CDs. People 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.840 don't realize country is still the only CD is getting 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.399 sold at Walmart a country CDs. What I love about 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:54.560 country music is is it's very tribal. There's a lot 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.520 of people who find music through country radio and through 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:03.280 the just country music. It's like there's still a country 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.639 music fan that exists. It's like just a fan of 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.040 country music. So if they know that you do country music, 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.080 you're gonna at least get a chance or give you 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.000 a chance. They're like, oh fuck, I love country music. 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.600 You make country music. Play me something where it's like 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:23.119 in hip hop, it's like everybody raps. This is true, everybody. 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.080 Everybody raps. Trust me. I just left an Empire Brunch 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.119 shout out to Empire bro. I couldn't walk two feet 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.080 with someone stopping me and just no, for sure, it's 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.880 just like I get on the pod, hey yo, what's 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.960 up yo yo? And you're just like, no, it's a 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.400 lot everybody raps. So it's like when you tell it dude, 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.159 Hey man, I rap, let me play you something. Instead 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:44.600 of them being like I'd like to listen to go 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.080 I rap too, and you're just like there that went. 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:48.920 You know. But you don't meet a lot of country 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:53.280 artists Nashville. You throw a rock and hit one, but 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.560 it's like there's a core country music fan. And I've 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.479 always been a country music fan just because you grow 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.920 up in Nashville. You can't help but to be there's 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.199 no way that yeah, I mean country. I feel like 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.720 obviously I'm a big hip hop dude, but like, just 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.119 like with any genre of music, I like, right, you 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.080 know what I mean? You know. Highlights said it to 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.080 me best when this shit started working for me. He said, 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.480 I'm watching you finally do what I watched you do 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.640 in the car for ten years. He's like, and it's 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.399 so gratifying because we would get in the car and 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.240 go on these long road trips and I would just 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.399 torture them with George Strait records and Billy Currington songs 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.840 and I'm like, Blair, like I'm doing sound check singing 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.480 Darius Rucker every day, you know. And the Highlight was like, 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.000 it's so cool, like everybody who really knows what kind 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.920 of music I listened to. Thought it was super dope 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.800 to finally see me, you know, like, okay, this is 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.600 like you know, you doing what we see you do 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.800 in the car anyways, Like we watch you smoke weed 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.520 and sing Alan Jackson, So this is cool. Are you 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.000 gonna get into some fucking movies or something? Man, I 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.639 just talked to a guy. I got something of them 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.080 a sleeve dude, or like TV or you should host 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:02.840 a fucking I don't know. I just feel like you 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.960 just gotta be on the on the screen. I feel 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.400 like it did. I feel like this handsome face deserves 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.080 a chance. No. I think we're gonna do something. I 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.359 gotta you know. I'm really inspired by what MGK is 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.440 doing right now. Oh yeah, he did his own movie. 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.760 He's just doing his own movies. They're fucking INCREDIB for sure. 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.120 Shout out to my what a genius, great guy. Man 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.280 plug us in if you can. I'm surprised you never 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.720 met her. You know what's crazy. I know what's crazy. 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.800 I talked to MGK the other day and I was like, 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.199 I I should have asked him now, I should be like, yo, 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.560 just throw me in a mid in the text, just randomly. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.320 I just love to reach out. I just I'm such 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.240 a fan of his spirit and his music, his writing ability, 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.840 you know, just the way he's a great creative. It's 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.560 a great creative man. That's another thing, like think about 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.199 the rock shit. It's crazy like all these artists like 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.760 MGK obviously very incredible rapper. God damn, he's a fucking 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.320 dingle blown arena tour right now. It's wild. Man. He's 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.960 he's on the phone drunk, facetiming the other night and 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.280 he was like, you know, he was talking about my 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.879 daughter had got me a little billboard for Father's Day, 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:05.480 which was so cool. Oh I saw that. Yeah, it 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.680 was the sweetest thing ever. And it's just a dad 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.679 and him that identified that, you know. And I'm like, 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.240 he's like, you, motherfucker, how you get up with a billboard. 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.160 I'm like, you got a fucking helicopter in an arena 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.359 every night that carries you across fourteen thousand people. Fuck 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.640 my billboard. So you're tripping. That dude is on top 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.760 of the world right now, you know. And he's still 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.199 the same kid from Cleveland that we all talked to 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.480 when he was you know, doing what was a thousand 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.240 words and running or whatever. He's still the same kid 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.320 pushing the Lace Up mixtape when you talk to him. 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.240 How diverse is like? Cause, like when you have a 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.800 show now and you're selling thirteen thousand tickets or seven 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.320 thousand tickets here right, Like how much of the crowd 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.159 is like og Jelly fans and how much just found 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.840 you recently? It's a good split. You know. The cool 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.720 thing about catalogs are and I always hear Russ talk 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.359 about this and I understand it now, is that you 0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:01.920 can only build a true core base with a catalog. Right. 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.120 Sometimes guys will have songs that will get really hot 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.879 and the song will blow up, there's no catalog to 0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:10.680 back it. So you have people that want to be 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.240 a fan of you, but they don't have enough catalog 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.840 to be a fan of yours. Got you, you know, 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.520 because like they might go to the one song and 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.120 be like, I like this, but what else is there? 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.159 And the dudes got two EPs out right, you know 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.000 where It's like guys like myself have Yeah, if someone 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:27.840 if someone hears your song on the radio and they 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.600 go to your Spotify page, they might just dive into 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.119 you just get God Willing, you get lost in the 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.680 jelly row rabbit hole. Yeah, just give me a chance, 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.440 give me a three song chance. And if I can 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.320 get you with those three I think I can suck 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.720 you in them. I've played save Me for hundreds of people. 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.600 Oh yes, that's my of my favorite songs for sure. 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.080 It's like I told you what I first. I was like, brother, No, 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.520 it's it's it's a It's like one of those records 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.680 that I can listen to it. I don't listen like 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.960 I don't ride around bumping your own ship. Yeah, but 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.520 not if I'm in the car and the perfect man, 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.919 I'm like, yo, let's let that motherfucker ring like that 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.479 you know that slaps? Are you guys gonna rework it? 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.639 We got a plan. I have a vision. I had 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.600 a dream, and like a real dream to put like 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.720 God Willing. I just want to put like a dell 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.560 on it. And I'm just speaking that into existence and 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.640 it sounds really wild. But could you imagine Adele coming 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.440 in with what the nuts got? Was me saying that mom, 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.600 you know, fucking Adele. It's like somebody who feels that 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.080 kind of pain. Yeah, because I feel like that's a 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.320 record that like, obviously it's been out a couple of years, 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.080 but if you worked it to radio now or whatever, right, 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.960 being a layup. I know this sounds weird, but for me, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:50.560 music helps people. Yeah, right? Is that my people? Yes? Definitely? 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.600 It didn't pick up Boston. Yeah, you're good too good? 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.400 The mic sift super okay cool. I'm like, only my 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.200 people would come in and start shooting dice in there 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.120 or something like that, like this is our moment. I 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.160 want to play Soilo. To me, it's like music helps people, 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.800 and it's not even about the monetary value of the song. 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.000 For me, it's about how can I get it in 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.800 front of more people? Because I know how many people 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.440 it's helped, you know what I mean. I know how 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.080 many people have came to me through addictions, struggles, losing 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:23.520 family members, mental health, just drunk nights of sadness that 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.200 are like save Me was the song for me. It's like, 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.920 how can you get a song that helps so many 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.840 people in front of more people? It's kind of my goal. 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.600 So it's like I want to do whatever I can 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.480 to get in front of the world, and a lot 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.960 of your music has those kind of messages. I guess 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.400 you know what I'm saying. It's not like I mean, 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.160 your music is very personal to you. Yeah, it's very cathartic. 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.560 It's therapeutics. I always wanted to make music with a 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.520 I'm very intentional in my songwriting. Now that you're popping 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.960 on is like the label trying to put you in 0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:02.720 with writers? Are you just straight handling everything obviously, or 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.600 on the other side, you're in Nashville, now you're kind 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.800 of known as a guy. Now are you helping other 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.840 people with writing? I'm doing some of that. Yeah, I'm 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.800 doing some of that. And and the cool thing is 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.240 as a fan of writers like Kel's and mod getting 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.600 in a room together, I have got in a room 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.960 with some people that I wanted to get in a 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.720 room of course, you know that. I was like, Yo, 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.720 I love the way this collaborates. Yeah, Like I would 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.440 be honored to write a song with that dude. So 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.440 hip hop has trained us to be like in your 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.520 own little bubble, write your own shit, you know what 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.320 I mean. And it's like where every other genre is 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.240 way more open to being like it's not even about 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.760 somebody else helping write your lyrics. It's about sometimes I'll 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.240 go help another dude, write right, and just me being 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.640 in their helps whenever he's just like am I tripping? 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.040 Or is this fucking dope? And just me being like 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:51.080 that's dope. Sometimes yeah, Sometimes it's like if you're in 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.280 there with someone you respect and they give you some 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.320 affirmation that you period. Yeah, or sometimes I just put 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.120 people back on the right path. Like you'll have a 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.080 dude noodling and catch something and then get away. You 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.360 know how you knew you've been in a studio some 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.520 dudes is in her humming and noodling and he cat 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.040 When you said noodling, I'm thinking jumping into a lake 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.880 and catching cat. Yo. We can go with Hannah Baron 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.320 any day you want to go. She invited me and 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.120 the wife out. Have you seen Hannah Baron? No, but 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.440 I've seen people noodle on YouTube. Dude, have you ever 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:23.560 hear the wife? Yes? Fuck yeah, explain absolutely minutes. So 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.480 what is this noodling thing? Oh, it's real. So catfish 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.320 are and I'm gonna butcher it, Hannah, don't judgement, but 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:36.520 catfish normally are in like holes, right, shallower holes, and 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.280 what you do is you kind of fish into the 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.280 hole and the catfish by instinct will bite and then 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.920 you pull the catfish out but bite your hand. Yeah, right, 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.600 does it hurt? Well, I mean it's not. It's not comfortable, 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.400 but it's not like you know, it's not a bear 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.960 coodl right, it's like but yeah, So if you look 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.280 at people that get big fucking fish, they'll have scars 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.120 on their arms and it. So you've actually done this. 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.960 I've actually reached one out of the water. You've you've 0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.680 caught a catfish with your bare hands, bare hands, brought 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.280 it out and felt like fucking thor held it up 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.400 over my head like hear ye, hear ye, people of Whoville, 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.640 I'm the fucking dude. Do I have to bash it 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.320 in the head to kill it? No? No, it's just 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:19.800 like any other fish. You hold it out of water 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:25.360 long enough, give it a slow torture it. We're putting 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.440 out of your misery. And now Peter cancels me. Yeah, 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.120 so do you cook the fish? Yeah? I love catfish? 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.240 Oh man, Oh, it's I don't not that I'm weird 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.120 about stuff, but I would if I'm either playing catch 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.600 and release or I'm trying something nice, and that's my role, 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.040 and catfish is one of my favorite things to eat, 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.760 so noodling. I've watched a lot of that on YouTube. 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.760 What was the name of that one redneck kid who 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.520 was rolling around yellow for a while, Cambo Camo. I 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.800 used to love seeing his Instagram page because he would 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.560 have the most as well. He had like a pet 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.800 possum running around on his shoulder. And you gotta follow 0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.880 Hannah bar and I'm gonna send her your page now. 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.160 It is Cambo on steroids. She's catching airl from like 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.720 South Alabama that pulls out catfish the size of you. 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.960 She's like fucking five to like one ten. She's pulling 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.560 out fists that are bigger than her. It's fucking wild. 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:20.520 They're good money in that, you think I do? I 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.800 know her YouTube channel crushes. I mean that's that's there's 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.160 great money. Yeah, I've been getting stuck in. I've been 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.240 watching van life YouTube videos. Oh I can't get off 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.760 of that. That and puppies for all my TikTok is 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:38.080 van life and tiny homes. Yeah. I hadn't gotten into 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.960 the tiny homes, but the van life ship will warp me. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.600 The Van Life shit. It makes me like sometimes fantasize 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.760 about having no kids and being single, right, Oh, watch 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.720 out and just being on an island. I'm gonna go 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.959 live in my van, save up all this money pissing 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.800 the park. Oh, you're in a slippery slog, my friend. 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.560 You should somebody should reel you away from this fast. 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.040 That's where it starts going south. He starts selling mushrooms 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.200 and me and my wife like, we'll go to the 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.400 dollar store sometimes and I'll just be looking at like 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.000 the groceries. I'd be like, man, I tell my wife. 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:10.600 I'm like, man, if I was single, I fuck that 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.279 blooney up for a dollar? Do you want to be single? 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:14.680 I'm like no. I was just thinking in my head 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.640 if I was like single with the one bedroom apartment, 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.719 like this is where i'd be at if I was 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.160 in the van that I really want to be in 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.239 the sides with you, that boney with a bucket, with 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.279 a bucket to shit in. What you say, puppies and 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.040 you and van puppies. I just love, I don't know, 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.160 make me happy. What about TV? What are you streaming 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.839 lately on TV? Oh, dude, I've been in the middle 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.440 of all kind of good ship. Have you seen the 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.600 offer yet? I've heard about it. The Godfather it's some paramount. 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.000 It's fucking I couldn't quit watching it. I watched The 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.919 Lincoln Lawyer. Have you seen the Boys? Uh uh? Amazon's Fire. 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.719 I watch it though, you know what, I just caught 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.160 up on and I know I'm late to the party. 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.160 And I heard it's an unpopular show out this way, 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.160 but winning time. Oh, I heard it's great. It was fire. 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.719 People love it. It was what about you're like Yellowstone? 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.440 Oh yeah, yellow Stones? Great to get it sucked me 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.360 in the Yellowstone. What's the best you gotta get? Like 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.400 a fucking cameo? I know, I just want to be 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.040 like one of the yeah or the bunk house or 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.319 a bar. To go to the bar and there's just 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:17.600 some dude that's it. Whoops, everybody, He's unfucking defeated Yellowstone. 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.719 I couldn't. At first, I was against it. I was 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.279 protesting it silently because I felt like it was too 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.880 dialogue driven. And my wife's like, trust me to love it. 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.000 I was like, I don't need to get into a 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.600 show that's like just a bunch of talking. And then 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.719 half the episode in I was like fucking up for 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.359 a day. I didn't do any I canceled sessions. I 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.240 watched every season I could catch up on like three days. 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.360 That shit actually had me like looking up flights to 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:46.400 go to Houston Rodeo. You should come to the Frontier 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.720 Days in Wyoming. I'm playing a rodeo. Me Co Wetzel 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.480 and Nelly are playing one night, Shyanne. Frontier Days is 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.640 like a really really big deal. It's like one of 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.760 the biggest rodeos on earth, like one of the oldest 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:04.400 ones ever. Wow. Yes, okay, Wyoming. Yeah, he's got his 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.120 ranch out. Come on, dude, have you heard you can 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.839 still make Chyenne Baby? It's an old old dors train 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:14.520 z home. Talk about just like in your opinion, man, 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.640 when you have a level of success that you're kind 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.160 of experiencing, does it feel like it or because sometimes 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.120 we don't realize that we're living in the moment we're 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.120 living in until it's like two or three years later, 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.840 and they'll be like, damn, like, are you enjoying the moment? 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.640 Are you like really like appreciating just everything going on 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.080 right now? Oh, more than I've ever appreciated anything. I 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.840 am so conscious of where I am in my life. 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.600 I'll give you an example. The other day when we 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.560 had those three string of shows. We had three shows 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.600 in a row. They're all just like killer shows. I 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.600 literally just handed my phone to my dude on the 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.600 beginning of the weekend and said, hey, man, just hand 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:58.359 it to me, and my wife calls Wow. I didn't 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.440 touch my phone for seventy two hours less. He was 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.279 bringing it to me, going, your wife's on the phone 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.400 and your daughter's on the phone. That's fire. I just 0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.560 want to be there, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.799 I want to be in every moment I can. I 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.120 want to feel everything. I want to talk to everybody 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.480 at this arena. I want to have every conversation. You know, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.400 I walk the building. I have a thing where I 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.440 walk the whole building before the show. I walk it 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.840 after the show, you know what I mean. Like, I 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.160 just want to know. I want to feel how it 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.360 feels before and after. Because one, it's wild. Yeah, I 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.600 mean I think when we start selling those that amount 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.719 of tickets, that those capacities. When you've been doing like this, 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.000 you've been on the fucking road. Oh yeah, doing any 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.080 size venue you can think of. Oh for sure, me 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.040 take that in man, me Doobie before Doobie, even me 0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:47.120 and highlight and God rest is soul. Big Mic literally 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:51.920 lived in a van with Scary Larry and Casey in 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.560 a band, a van like a ninety six. You've seen 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.239 that van. Yeah, you've seen the old white van. We 0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.480 call it Bertha. For five years on the run, two 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.440 hundred some days a year. When I met my wife, 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.160 I didn't have a house. Wow. I met my wife 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.040 in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and I did not have 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.080 an apartment. I was living in the van. I was 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:15.040 home so little that when I was home I would 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.759 say I would crash couches and fucking drive to the 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.640 next city a couple of days early and crash in 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.440 the van, or get hotels like I didn't even there 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.920 was no point in even having a you know, we 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.680 did that for so long. Two hundred cap rooms, three 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.440 hundred cap rooms, thousand cap rooms, four hundred cap rooms, 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.480 one hundred and fifty cap rooms. I've opened up for 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.520 metal bands. I've opened up for ICP multiple times, twisted 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.839 multiple times. The grind of this ship, God, I'm glad 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.640 we're talking about this. The grind of this ship is 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.440 what people miss the most, right is the years and 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.840 you do me and you talk about it all the 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.520 time privately. How proud I am of you that, Like 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.719 we were the same two dudes in Tampa that were 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.480 trying to figure it out. And the next thing I know, 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.879 you're fucking in La right, You're fucking meet the love 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.520 of your life. You're fucking fucking running the ranks up again, 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.399 your fucking biggest market in America. You're figuring the shit out. 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.280 It's like, that's our dude. Like that's how we've always 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.520 identified you, Like that's our fucking guy. That's our dude, 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.480 that's figuring that shit out, you know what I mean. 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:20.200 It's like when a country does a security for Juicy 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.400 and when we pull up here, it's like a bootleg 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.080 cab bootlet kid. Yeah, Juicy Love Bootleg Cat. I'm like, 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.880 everybody fucking you know, everybody's on this podcast. I was like, 0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.680 I've been harassing keV to get on this podcast, you 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.680 know what I mean. But it's one of those things 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.080 where they don't the grinds of years and years and 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.000 years of eating shit sandwiches to finally get a fucking 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.759 Philly cheese steak. What do you think it was for you? 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.319 Because you obviously got new management. But I feel like 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:49.279 you've done something that is very hard to do. And 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.600 when you come up on the underground tip like you do, 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.480 and you gain a lot of fan bases from a 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.200 lot of different artists. Like you said, you open up 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.759 for ICP, Twisted all that. You obviously heavily affiliated with 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.960 Strange Music. They distributed at least one of your projects 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.640 distributed to Travis. You went on a whole tour attack. 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.799 I went out with Yellow Wolf twice. Yeah, it's like 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.520 you have all kind of all these fans, and you 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.719 know they come from all different walks of life, but 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.839 there is like a stigma that comes with a lot 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.759 of those fan bases. And even when we think of 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.839 the white rapper thing, right, it feels like the the 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:32.759 underground white rapper thing. It's like a hard mold to 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.279 get out of and I feel like you've busted through it, 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.200 just like you're just jelly rolling. And I focused on 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.919 making music that was real, not music that was cool, 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.840 because there was moments like when I'm playing you Sunday morning, 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.839 you get it, But it wasn't cool. It was the 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.560 opposite and it was working. Yeah. It also it wasn't 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.640 what you're known for. What you were putting out at all. 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.840 It's like I just focused on the music that felt real, 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.000 Like to this day, it's like I know that I'm 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.040 I'm not going to connect with some of the people 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.920 because it's not trendy, it's not cool, it's just not 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:10.319 the texture of sound they're looking for. But strip it down, 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.239 it's real. It might not be real to you, and 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.439 it might not be what you're looking for, but this 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.880 is I feel authentic in everything I do. I'm not 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.759 chasing cool, I'm not overthinking visuals. I'm not trying to 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.840 package something in a way that's just like, I'm just 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.120 putting out music that feels right to where I'm at 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.839 in that moment of my life. Dude, I'm sitting here, 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.839 you know, talk about my age all day, but I'm 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.480 a thirty seven year old man. I'm on the verge 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.879 of being thirty eight. I have a fourteen year old 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.000 daughter that'll be fifteen and six months the fucking high 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:45.880 schooler crazy like six Inevitably, I was going to start 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.640 making a different kind of music, right the same fucking guy. Yeah, 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.920 I'm not even close. So it's like I just whatever 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.239 felt real to where I am in my life at 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.200 that moment and to the people, I know who I'm 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.359 writing songs for. I'm still writing songs for my mother, 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:05.360 Wow right. I'm still writing songs for that woman who's 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:10.880 struggling with addiction, struggling financially, fucking pain in her eyes, 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.920 trying to figure out how to take care of her kids. 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.200 I'm still writing songs for that woman. And I'm still 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.120 writing songs for that dude in that trailer park or 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:23.160 that apartment or that fucking rundown house or middle class 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.920 neighborhood that's busting his ass and working his ass off 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.400 and trying to figure life out. I'm still writing songs 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.320 for that dude that's fucking selling weed on the side 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.279 because his job's not paying enough to take care of 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.440 his family. I'm still writing songs for that dude on 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.560 that back road in that little country fucking town and 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.839 that pickup truck that he busted his ass to get 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.520 that smokes a joint every day the moment he gets 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.040 off work. I know who the fuck I'm writing songs for, right. 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.160 You know, I'm not trying to write a song for 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.560 fucking the kids that went to Rolling Loud this year. 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.400 You know what I'm saying and I'm very honest about that. 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.640 Ye yeah, it's fair, of course not. Yeah. So it's 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.839 like knowing that was my my busting point. I tell 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.000 people all the time, you can't. I'll see a Jelly 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:10.080 Roll fan before he sees me every time, and I'm 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.960 fucking fat with tattoos on my face. I stand the 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.719 fuck out, and I'll still watch that guy walk into 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.799 a grocery store and go, that's my guy. For sure, 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.120 that's my guy. I'll catch that guy in a minute. 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.520 I'll tell my wife that's why, that's our guy right there. 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.439 Two hours later. Holy fuck, Jelly dude, I fucking love 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.719 your shit. I'm like, thanks, man, I knew it. Yeah. 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.239 And every now and then I walk by dude that 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.239 I thinks my guy and he's not, and I'll introduce myself. 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.080 Hey man, I know this sounds weird, dude, but dude, 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.719 I just feel like I fucking speak for you. I 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:40.880 know I don't know you from the mom I'm not 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.640 trying to stereotype you in here, Hosse, but fucking I 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.520 make fucking kind of rock and roll, fucking southern rap, 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.200 country music and scent, and I just think you fuck 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.000 with it. That's so crazy. Hey, let's take a quick 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.080 piss break because I'm about to piss on Myselfhe yes, 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:55.640 Can I get a water in the piss break? Or 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.840 is this a waterless facility? We're gonna go get you 0:43:57.880 --> 0:45:27.839 a water, yo, I'll get you. Uh. It's crazy how 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.960 they did the media base and the platinum record of one. Yeah, 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:33.799 I'll put it right here, Sin it's on camera. Yeah, 0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.279 I'll get you one of those for uh oh yeah, 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:41.040 for fucking dead Man walking, because we got the radio 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:45.640 thing for it too. I just got we crack. We 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.040 cracked the top twenty five this week on Country Wow 0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.319 twenty four as of today moved two slots again. Are 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.640 you finding that country is a little harder. It's way harder, 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.120 charts a lot harder. It's fucking It's harder than any 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.120 other genre on Earth. It's also got the biggest audience 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:03.960 besides pop back as I say, but your reach is 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.200 way more and pop has only got a bigger audience 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.799 by like it's closed, cav I can imagine. It's kind 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.600 of blew my mind to be if you think about 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.920 like how big the middle of the country is compared 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.200 to the metropolis parts. It's like, right, most of this 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:26.560 is for sure. I had perspective. The other day. We 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.680 were leaving Nashville and I was driving the Tailgates and 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:35.080 Tall Boys the first vessel, and it was like two hours, 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.480 like I think I was two and a half hours 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.680 outside of Nashville and I was still picking up the 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.279 Nashville Country radio station. Wow. Like literally I was in 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.600 Kentucky and I was clearly picking up one O three 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:51.439 to three Yo. What happened. One of my favorite things 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:55.520 that happened during the pandemic was you and Andrew Schulch song. Dude. 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.080 It was so funny, the video was so good. It 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.600 was my favorite thing that happened. Fucking covid anthem. It 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.640 was the covid anthem. Dude. I tell people me and 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.480 Andrew Shouls are responsible for the country opening back up. 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.279 I don't care what nobody's that. It was so it 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.560 was so and you know what, his whole team is 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.920 just fucking awesome. You talk about a dude who gets it. 0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:23.680 He's if rappers would take one twentieth of his approach 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.399 to the business. He's kind of doing the rust thing 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.880 very just do it yourself side, put it out as 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:35.600 much as you can. Overload the content constantly drops, But 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.960 my favorite thing about what he does is how he 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.120 presents it. He's not afraid to spend the dollar for 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:46.000 the good look. This is inside baseball. But when I 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.040 watch him played la here, right, he rints the old 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.040 six four. Yep, he shoots the footage of him pulling 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.960 up to the theater with it bouncing little things that 0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.920 are just like you thought about. You know. It's like 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.040 when we came down here to do the Kimmel thing 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.799 and they sent us over the production stuff, my first 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:12.239 question was, cool, can I build a set? Right? You know? 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:13.960 It's like I know they're not paying, and I know 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.600 that at that point I've got to pay to build 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.239 the set and break the set down. But it's like, 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.480 can I build a set? You know what I mean? Like, 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.640 I want to make sure that what we do. I mean, look, 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.360 that's that's a look that you might get once in 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.879 your lifetime ever. I mean hopefully it's one of many 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:28.799 of those looks, but you just never know, right, So 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.120 it's like, yeah, you know that's going to reach millions 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.480 of people, like Teddy Swims and Megan Train are just 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.280 built a garden on Kimmel or I just saw it Swims. 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.480 I love Teddy Swims so much, and he's it was 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.640 so good to just like to see him, like go 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.719 from just do an amazing did you go to to 0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.279 get this? It's next door? Oh dude, I'm so sorry. 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:49.719 I would have never asked you to go buy me 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:57.360 a water. And Teddy Swims got so talented. He's also 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:01.359 just like us, covering all kinds of l R and 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.600 B shit like Mario, let me love you And I 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.600 don't care how much of a singer I think I am. 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.880 I hear him singing I want to quit. Do you 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.480 guys link up at all? Oh? Yeah, we talked in 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.080 Nashville all the time. We went and got drunk at 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.080 the Rhyme a few weeks ago. He's a Nashville guy. Yep, 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:18.160 he lives there now now she's a Georgia kid. Yeah, 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.399 Nashville's like, uh, if you're in for people who don't 0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.840 know obviously music city, but like if you're in the 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.120 country music industry, like you have to be there almost 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.799 you have to. You can't make it anywhere else if 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.120 you want to be a part of the pop country scene. Now, 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.680 Texas has its own country scene in general, just like 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.880 it had its own rap scene. It's no different. Texas 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.600 is like that for all music. But yeah, if you 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.400 want to be a part of but even the Texas 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.319 people got to move to Nashville, right if they want 0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.880 to go big, Yeah, they want to go bigger than Texas. 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:53.040 When did you help Andrew write his portion of that record? Yeah, 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.080 well it was a collaborative, right, but souls, she's very clever, 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.720 so I'm not sure he like, I'm sure he hasne 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.680 He had all the line. We just had to keep 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.279 them in rhythm. The best part was when he was like, 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.839 all right, I want to sing it. I was like, what, 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.000 That's not what I seen coming. You know you got 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.640 shot that video of Florida, right, Yeah, we went down 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.319 to Florida when they were doing this flagrant in Miami thing. 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.800 Oh we had a blast. When I got pissed drunk, 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.000 we had a fucking ball. Dude, you obviously I see 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.680 you pop up on a lot of podcasts, like a 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.120 shout out to theovonn shot out to Brandon Shop and 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.920 those guys. Would you ever have your own podcast? Is 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.600 that something that you even think you have time to 0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:31.680 even dabble in? I've been talking to a company about it, 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.520 and I'd like to I love podcasting. One, I just 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:41.000 love the idea of conversation, but two, I just love 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.359 the idea of just being goofy. So I love doing 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:47.200 like THEO and Shop and which I think I would 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.880 do The King and the Sting again this week. And 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.200 I think I'm gonna do The Fighter and the Kid 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.359 with Shopping Calling this week. And this is my big 0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:57.799 one and I hope it works out. But as of 0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.360 right now, it's on the books for me to do 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:02.840 the Bird Cast. Oh I love Burt. Yeah, I'm so excited. 0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:04.840 I'm such a Burt fan. So if I get to 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:08.080 actually do Chrisier, I'm gonna lose my ship. They're supposed 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.279 to be making a movie based on the Machine than 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.800 for sure. Literally he went out there and shot it already. 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.640 He's so funny. He's so fucking funny. You know. It's 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.480 funny because when I first saw his ship and I 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:18.840 saw he did a stand up with no shirt on, 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:20.759 I was like, asked some gimmicky shit, and I actually 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.120 watched it, I was like, Oh, this guy's fucking got Well. 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.279 The best part is then you watch him and that's 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.040 just who he is. Yeah, for sure. You know he's 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.719 got the most like hilariously painful laugh. Oh yeah, sure. 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:35.799 When he laughs, it's like no, for sure, it's like 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.640 it's like painful, like bro, it's like some of it. 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.520 Are you okay? He's gonna stroke out? He had super 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:45.839 red faced. Yes, what's something that you learned? You had 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.759 a great pandemic. I had a great pandemic in terms 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.560 of just where we were before we started to where 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.799 we are now. What is something that you took away from, 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:58.680 you know, the goofy era of our country or the 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.440 world rather the world. Yeah, content is king guys like 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:08.280 shouls watching how they released. Content is also recession proof. 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:12.560 It's pandemic proof, for sure. It's in fact it's needed 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.160 more in those moments. Yeah, people were running out of 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.880 ship to watch, Oh for sure, ran through a I 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:23.359 watched there. Oh yeah, no, for I went back and 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.680 rewatched prison Break. I was just at the crib of 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.400 just losing my ship. Yeah, I was fucking awesome. My 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.480 first came. It's like every other thing. The first season 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.879 got weird. Yeah, it got weird. Season three they all 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.640 do season into a prison break, We're so good, insane, 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.359 and then season three they end up in jail again 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.279 in Colombia. How many times can you end up in 0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:44.680 fucking jail? Yeah, Jesus, y'all milk the drug utter dry 0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:48.680 Sun one and two spitting dust so good. They gotta 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:54.400 quit fucking legacies up. Another show that was like that, Oh, 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:59.600 Dexter got weird after season four, The New Dexter was. 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:01.640 What do you think about the New Dexter? All right, 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.360 I appreciate it. I liked it because I hated the 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.320 way Dexter ended. Yeah, it was so so I was 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.759 kind of glad that they kind of brought it back 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.000 full circle. Did you ever see Dynasty or whatever it's called. 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:15.840 That might have been what it was called. It was 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.360 a show about a family who had a big dynasty, 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.400 and it's like, it was awesome. I gotta look it up. 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.000 Me and my wife watching it was so good. And 0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.680 like season three it turned into a fucking musical. Literally, 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:30.160 it's bitches turned this fucking showed that was like savage, gangster, 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.400 cutthroat business ship and it was a fucking musical. And 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.240 I was like, y'all fucking blew it. I think five 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.160 is the sweet spot. If you really got you gotta 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.760 end it at five For sure, all the best shows. 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.720 The Wire was five seasons, Breaking Bad was five seasons, 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:49.000 Ozark four but two parts, right, yeah, because I think 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:53.000 after you it was Sons of Anarchy too many? Was 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.600 it like seven? It was like seven or eight? But 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:57.960 it was great. It's still it's still I loved it, 0:53:58.080 --> 0:53:59.920 you know, the way we knew it would. But I 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.640 just Sons of Anarchy with Peg Bunny stabs of Dax's 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.640 fucking uh fucking wife in the head, his baby mom. 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:12.879 Oh my god, she was a you watch Mayans. No. 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:14.880 I got a couple of friends who play on it 0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:19.919 that are awesome, Joseph and to Mmmm, yeah, I'm fucking 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:21.800 with Yellowstone. There's a new show with Jeff Bridge is 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:25.040 called The Old Man that's crazy. Three episodes in. Is 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:27.080 it already all out or coming out once a week? 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:31.120 Kol calling when it's finished. It's been fucking myself getting 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:32.640 into those things, and I'm on the road, so I 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.520 always miss when it comes out. Dude, Like The Boys, 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:40.000 Season three starts with this fucking superhuman dude. Like there's 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.360 like people in the show with powers. It's about essentially, 0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:48.040 it's like, uh, if superheroes were real, they'd be like corrupt, 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.680 they'd have drug problems, they'd be fucking bitches, they'd be 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.160 like taking advantage of people. Like so it's like that 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:57.799 angle the superhero thing, and like the Captain America of 0:54:57.840 --> 0:54:59.719 the show, like the face, like the biggest superhero in 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:05.040 the tree is like a fucking sociopast, serial killer, fucking rapist, maniac, 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.399 and everyone's scared of him because he's got Like what's 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.279 this show. It's called The Boys, It's on Amazon Prime. 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.759 It's amazing. But season three starts. There's this like dude 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:17.440 who's kind of like ant man, right, So he's fucking 0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.960 some gay club and he takes his dude into the 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.120 room and it looks like he's about to get fucked 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:29.000 in the ass, and uh, the dude. So the dude, 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.839 the dude bends over and it's like jump in. So 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:37.640 the superhero guy goes super tiny, like small enough, and 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:40.000 he dives in the tip of this guy's dick, no 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.640 fucking way. So he's inside of the guy's dick and 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:47.440 he's like tickling the sides and when he sneezes, he 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:53.239 gets big again. So he sneezes inside the guy's dick 0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.640 and explodes. The dude all over the fun. Oh my god, 0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:01.560 it's crazy, and then watching it and then what you're 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.040 doing with your life. Guy kicks in the door right 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:07.080 finds him the guy. He puts the little midget motherfucker 0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:08.920 into a bag of cocaine and shakes it up, and 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:13.760 he dies of an overdose. Oh my god. Besides dying 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.120 of an overdose, it's kind of a dream scenario for me. 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:18.480 I wish I could just go swim around the bag 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.800 of cocaine. I might do that tonight. To be honest, 0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:23.640 it's where's a bag of coat? It might be the 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:27.680 way I get over this hangover from plane drinking this morning. 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.800 Is cocaine a nice even if you have a hangover? 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.000 Would you say it? Well, it's more of a if 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.520 I'm really drunk thing. You know. Cocaine's weird now because 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.240 the day of doing it with strangers in the bathroom 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.400 is over, because you might have You just can't trust 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.839 the drugs anymore. We're having to run around with drug 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:47.440 testing kids, like sucking a police officer. You know what 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.839 I'm saying. We're like testing fucking with testing strips. Yeah, 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.439 because he might die. Yeah, it's fucking fucked up, dude. 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.080 Guy what. It's so cool when you can just bump 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.120 into a stone cold stranger at a bar and he's like, 0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.040 want to hit a bumper? Like fuck yeah. He was 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.480 like the Mountain. He would just be in there pulling 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.319 little mountains of coke on the end of a key 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.600 or a fucking car. You didn't know this, dude. You 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:07.840 were just like, thank you, Mountain Ferry, I'll take another 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.920 little heel and you're just hitting them with them, and 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.920 y'all are fucking party in the bathroom. You don't fucking 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.080 know each other. And then you leave, You're like, I 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.520 did did some killer blow with that dude in the bathroom. Dude, 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.680 fucking awesome. He was ranking them out sign And now 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.040 you're dude to the bathroom, like you want to hit 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:23.920 some blow, And I'm like, I want to see you 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.000 do a whole eight ball first, first show me that 0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:28.080 you can do it. Yeah, And how long have you 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.880 been doing this blow? You might have already got accustomed 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.080 to the amount of fit and all in it, and 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.520 I might not be. You know a lot of people 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.640 that are dealing with that shit, like the overdose shit, 0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.040 because I know what's happening a lot like everywhere, man 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.200 We had a really bad few years in Nashville, especially 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.680 with old friends from the neighborhood that kind of went 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:47.200 from pills to shooting shit and just you know, that 0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:50.880 whole culture is just out here. They're like, uh, I 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.760 watched way too much random shit on YouTube. But there's 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:56.240 this guy named Dark White Underbelly. You watch the shit. 0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:00.480 Uh huh. So he interviews like prostitutes and like careers 0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.680 and all kinds of great shit. But dude, in La 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.360 like in fucking uh, where's the homeless? People ask Roll, 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:09.760 They're all like they don't want I was just gonna say, 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:12.520 where are they not? No, no, they don't want normal 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:16.520 drugs Like there they specifically are smoking fentanyl, like they're 0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:20.800 like proof, They're like fentanyl proof. But I think it's 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.280 like everything else, like once your body has felt it 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.440 and gets it in certain amounts, you can. But I 0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:28.840 think it's just I don't get it at all. I 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.280 don't understand. So it's definitely put a damper on my 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.840 cocaine heard. I'm in the prime of my career. I 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.360 should be out here living like fucking Jerry Buss in 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.360 the seventies, fucking eighties. I should be out here just 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.880 fucking me and my wife should just be out here 0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:47.520 fucking bitches and fucking doing just fucking just piles of 0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:51.520 cocaine every night and drinking Scotch for breakfast. And instead 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.760 we're having to run around like she's probably got an 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:59.600 STD and that cocaine's probably got fen all in it. Jesus, ye, 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.160 just wrong. Wrong. That makes me think about this. Have 0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:05.120 you ever thought about what the backstage you look like 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.240 at a concert in the seventies and eighties? Oh? Yeah, man, 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.840 it was amazing, dude. There was not a camera in sight. Yeah. 0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:15.320 I just imagine topless women running around and passing out 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:22.240 Heroin kids, heroin kits, fucking dig peels right, just like Yo, 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:26.120 here's a blue shoe and a fucking shot of heroin, right, 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:29.440 and they're just running around. Everybody's just origining. Go to 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.800 blue shoo dot com promo code bootleg and get your 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:34.800 first month. There you go, baby, go to the blue 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.400 shoe dot com and look at see I'll run your 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.040 promos for you. Got a ad read, I'll do it 0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.520 with you right now. The blue shoes work, They do work. 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:45.000 I know. Souls convinced me to have Yeah, I took 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.440 a blue shoe. Wake up in the morning, that dick hard. 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:49.840 The wind blows and it's like, hello, you have that 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:52.760 piston boner in the morning. Yeah, And I just I 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:54.480 need all the help I can get in that department. 0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.200 Hey man, as belly goes out, it goes in. It's 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:00.640 like a turtle just receiding. It's just get the it's 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:04.160 a It's fucking bad, dude. It's disappearing and smelling bad. 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:13.240 I'm fucking for sure. It's so bad. It's just it's 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:17.400 fucking horrible. Maybe that's why we're not having orgies backstage 1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:21.320 and doing cocaine too. Eternal don't come out much. When 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:31.680 he does, he smells like a swamp. I can't believe 1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:46.200 my wife loves me. I'm fucking I'm such a disappointment. Yeah. 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.400 I thought about this eighties thing the other day because 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:50.120 we were at a festival and I'm backstage and I 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:53.360 looked around and there was like a dude from another 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:57.280 rock band complaining about having a peanut allergy and asking 1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.280 where the vegan options were and if there was any 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:03.840 peanuts in the room at all, And I'm like, fucking 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:09.520 Vince Neil would be sickened by you. It's like fucking 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:12.800 you know what, some where crazy. I talked to Chad 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:14.880 from Nickelback, and he's actually one of the cool ones. 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.440 I think Nickelback gets a bad rap. They're kind of 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:21.880 like the go to band to be like they're they're gay. Listen, 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:25.040 but if you don't think, but no one's gayer than Creed. 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:38.920 Creed is the real Nickelback. I tell you, I tell 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:42.080 you what I can say this. I don't have a 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:44.600 Creed song. I bumped very often at all, but I 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:48.640 can tell you that rock stars still fucks. Oh yeah, 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:52.520 and Nickelback might make the best white strip club music ever. 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:54.520 You go into a white strip club and a chick 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.280 that's the size of the rail of that light over 1:01:56.320 --> 1:02:03.640 there is just slow thrusting. That's like a fucking go 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:08.120 to at the white strip club. Say it's worth saving. 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:14.560 She's saving up to go to gatherings. She's just slow thrusting. Yes, yes, 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.440 oh godh by the way, you have you done the 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:20.600 gathering of the juggle? I've done it nine times. I 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:23.520 have tripped acid all nine times. I was there the 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:26.920 year they threw ship at Tila Tequila. Oh, I was there. 1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:30.120 It was awesome. It was so incredible. It was the 1:02:30.160 --> 1:02:32.760 greatest moment ever. She got on stage and they started 1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:36.120 booing her, and then she just like leaned into it 1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:38.600 and like pulls her top off and starts shaking her titties, 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:41.920 and like she thought, like Juggalos would be like, Oh, well, no, 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:45.840 we're gonna cheer for that. These are jugglos, bitch. Everybody 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.640 out here shaking their titties and fucking smells like my pecker. 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:54.760 It's you know what I'm saying, Not because I'm a 1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:58.400 Juggalo at heart, not because Juggalos think, but because they've 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:01.320 been camping for five days in the woods in fucking 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:04.640 eighties and ninety eight degree weather and doing drugs right, 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:06.760 and you're shaking your tits and they just start throwing 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:09.840 just bottles of shit and pists ad her. I'd like 1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:12.600 to point out I haven't met many Juggalos that I've 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:16.480 came away from being around and said they smell nice. Yeah, well, listen, 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:19.040 I've got some of the best drugs and weed on Earth. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.000 I can tell you this. If I have a car, 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:24.280 Oh sorry about that, let's pop it right on. I've 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:25.960 been fucking with this to the point I was trying 1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:28.200 trying to break it, f take it off. Yeah no, 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:30.840 I want to plug the cash. You know I might 1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:33.919 have did it though there look at me. Fucking let's 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.960 go son. If I break down on the side of 1:03:36.960 --> 1:03:38.360 the road and I see a car pull up with 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:41.960 that hatchet man, oh you're good. Thank you. The most 1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:44.440 genuine people. That's why I said I'll always be a 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:47.160 Juggleo at heart. Those people are the best people on earth. 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:50.520 And you want to get good acid, you call a 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:53.440 fucking juggalo. If you don't call a dude, that's a 1:03:53.480 --> 1:03:57.600 fucking dead head. If you got to either have a 1:03:57.720 --> 1:04:00.880 teddy bear tattooed on you or a hatchet man tattooed 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:03.200 on you to give me any psychedelic except for you. 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:06.960 G it's literally it's so funny. There's like teachers now 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:09.919 with like hatchetman tattoos and ship Oh yeah for sure 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:14.760 that we're just tripping balls watching tea tequila, get big 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:20.280 old jango pants, fucking great Malnko jerseys. Yeah, oh yeah, 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:24.000 just fucking do you remember those Jinko's, Yeah, you had, 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:26.880 but you never had a pair of. My cousin was 1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:29.360 a big juggle I'm guilty. I had you remember, like 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:31.600 the bottom of them. How like crusty they'd get because 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:34.360 they dragged your shreg Oh my god, I love crusty 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:37.040 stuff though, you probably, but you could put a whole 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:40.120 two liter in the pocket. Yeah, oh you could put anything. Listen, 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:42.120 yo yo, this is the vantage of being fat. I 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:43.880 had this pocket right here in my dimm jackets. I 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:47.000 can put a bottle of tequilan, smuggle it anywhere. Wow, 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:49.959 true story. I am always I normally have a bottle 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:52.240 of tequila on me. When you were at the liquor 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:53.720 store earlier, I thought that's what you were getting, so 1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:55.360 I didn't bring any No, I had to get water. 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:58.440 Oh is there was there a drug bridge at the 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:01.919 gathering in the it was the bridge ever so there's 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:04.600 like so at the gathering of the Juggalos. I don't 1:05:04.600 --> 1:05:06.480 know if it still is the case I gotta take, 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:09.720 but there's a supposed to be like a free drug 1:05:09.760 --> 1:05:11.680 bridge or some shit, right, And I heard there's like 1:05:11.720 --> 1:05:16.240 a fuck hut. Dude, it's a community fucking I wonder 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:19.000 what that smells like in there though. The hut. Well, 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:24.240 I have a reference point. But did you ever fucking 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:27.200 the fuck hut at the gathering? I'd never fucked in 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:30.640 the fuck hut at the gathering. I fucked at the gathering. 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:34.800 At the gathering. Fucks it is awesome. It will change listen. 1:05:34.880 --> 1:05:36.760 So they used to have it cave in Rock, Illinois. 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:39.080 The only way to get there was during the day 1:05:39.440 --> 1:05:42.720 by faery. You had to take a ferry, or you 1:05:42.760 --> 1:05:45.200 had to drive like four hours around the other way 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:47.000 to get there, or you could take a ferry over 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.640 There was a private property, so they could do anything anything. 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:54.120 It was a complete fucking chaos. It was absolute lawlessness. 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:57.160 You know what. The same thing of the gathering is 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:02.200 mud parks. I play mud parks all the time. These festivals, 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:05.960 these off road ATV parks, they're the gathering for country people. 1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:08.720 They go out there and camp for four days and 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:13.760 fucking it's lawless. They do drugs, they fuck, They fucking 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.640 drink themselves to sleep, they catch it on fire, and 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:19.840 they ride fucking four wheelers. It is heaven on earth. 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:22.840 It is the best experience I've ever Every time I 1:06:22.880 --> 1:06:25.919 play one, I pull up early, I have somebody bringing 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:29.080 four wheelers out. We tear shit up. It is a blast. 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:32.320 The gathering is the exact same way. It's just like 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:35.160 it's like everybody's there for the music and piece. You 1:06:35.160 --> 1:06:40.720 don't hear people arguing juggal thing if it's like a 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:44.120 family oriented fan base, right, Yeah, for sure. No, that's 1:06:44.160 --> 1:06:46.720 their whole thing is family. It's a dude, I'll take 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:48.480 you to one. They're a ball. I tried to play 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:50.400 this one this year, but I had a scheduling. I've 1:06:50.440 --> 1:06:53.960 been doing a few shows where they shoot they go 1:06:54.000 --> 1:06:56.480 into the crowd. Yeah, yeah, that's like the show. They 1:06:56.520 --> 1:06:59.040 do it the last night too, But they did. They 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:03.720 did a tour Tech nine, cotton Mouth, Kings and Bone 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:05.640 Thus that was one of the biggest tours ever own 1:07:05.680 --> 1:07:10.320 things in harmony. Yes, what a fucking saw them had 1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:13.720 a crazy name to it. They did masa Amphitheater, which 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:15.960 is like six thousand people sold out and never fucking 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:18.600 launching two leaders into the sky of fego. How hard 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:20.800 it was to sell hard tickets back then. You couldn't 1:07:20.960 --> 1:07:24.400 like you had to advertise like traditional ways true, Like 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:28.280 I remember I used to always get I used to 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:30.120 always just pick up a New Times, which is like 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:32.480 a free newspaper in Arizona, and you just go in 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:34.000 there and see what shows. That's the only way I 1:07:34.040 --> 1:07:36.920 knew which shows were coming. Now it's like the internet 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:39.720 I played. Yellow Wolf has a fucking one of my 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:43.680 favorite gathering stories ever. They shot a bottle rocket while 1:07:43.680 --> 1:07:47.560 he was performing m and he goes at this moment, 1:07:47.840 --> 1:07:50.440 fucking true yellow Wolf fast and he goes, which they 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:52.600 wasn't shooting it, like to be mean, It's just a gathering, right, 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:55.520 They're just fucking shooting fireworks. And he goes, I bet 1:07:55.600 --> 1:08:01.240 you can't hit me with a bottle rocket, dude. Hundreds 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:04.680 of juggalos just start shooting bottle rockets. Yellow Wolf He's 1:08:04.800 --> 1:08:07.920 up there like dude, He's slipping them like Tyson in 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:11.800 eighty four. He's moving boom there, whizzing find he goes, 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.280 Hahi by the fuckers, and he's rapping while doing it. 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:17.479 It was like one of the dopest things I've ever seen. 1:08:18.200 --> 1:08:20.439 Have you heard Yellowolf's rock album? I love it. It 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:28.120 is so fucking good. Yes to make Me make Me 1:08:28.160 --> 1:08:30.240 a Believer thing. It's crazy. The video is crazy. Oh, 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:33.479 I got the radio record everything I think I told him. 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:39.160 I was like, this feels like it just feels like big. 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:43.080 It feels arena rocky, old school arena rock. Yeah, it 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:44.519 feels like I told him this the other day. It 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:46.160 was like, I feel like you should be opening up 1:08:46.200 --> 1:08:51.400 for like fucking Motley Crew or fucking like the Rolling Stones. 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:53.640 Like this ship sounds like you should be opening for 1:08:53.680 --> 1:08:56.840 the Rolling Stones. It's like big ship, big fun. It's 1:08:56.920 --> 1:08:59.800 so fucking good. And I thought that was dope fro 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:02.439 him to do that, to get that loose with that 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:06.080 right after coming off you know, the Male Zero project 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:09.840 and the Caskie Ship. Yeah, shout out to a shooter Jennings. Ye. 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:15.799 Sometimes why that is struggles, brother struggles, uncle struggles, Okay, struggles, 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:17.960 uncle shooters what we called him. Were you in struggle 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:20.360 do another joint? We're doing another one now you are. Well, 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:23.880 we're putting those out until we're fucking like Grumpy Old 1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:26.920 Men or the Grumpy Old Men movies. That'll be me 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:29.879 in struggle putting out projects when we're seventy. I remember 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:32.920 the Yeah, the Grumpy Old Men was I remember that. 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:34.840 What was the guy's name? He one had white hair 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:37.080 and one had that big fu Yeah, I forgot the 1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:38.519 names of it. But it's like, well, that'll be me 1:09:38.520 --> 1:09:41.439 in struggle. We'll be like putting out project. Yeah. He 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:43.160 makes me feel really fat every time I see him 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:46.320 on Instagram. Listen you want to fuck you imagine how 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:49.640 he looks like a fucking action figure. Yeah, he's fucking yeah, No, 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:52.280 I hate him. I'm like, bro, yeah, no, I've seen him. 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:55.160 He's just walking around with his shirt off, fucking doing. 1:09:55.280 --> 1:09:58.040 He looks like he's a professional cage fighter. He does. 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:00.360 What the fuck is happening with you? Yeah? And I 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:02.760 couldn't be doing more of the opposite. I'm just like 1:10:02.880 --> 1:10:06.240 fucking eating sandwiches and drinking myself into a coma every 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:08.920 night and fucking waking up with a hangover and having 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:11.479 to eat my way through it the next day. I'm 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:15.040 saying or blowing fucking cocaine boogers out. I'm having like 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:18.679 the total opposite moment of my life and struggles having 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.800 Right now. I just rewatched the first episode of uh 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.160 fucking Snowfalls. You see Snowfall? Oh? Yes, you know, like 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:30.360 that first episode the FBI agent. I think it blows 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:32.720 cocaine up his ass and he dies, or the other way. No, No, 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:35.680 he blows cocaine up her ass and she dies and 1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:38.240 then he has to clean up the body. I say 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:40.280 out to say, have you ever snored? A cocaine off 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:44.720 of a woman's asshole. Yes, how was that incredible? I 1:10:44.760 --> 1:10:46.320 think I did my wife. To be honest with me 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:48.080 and my wife. First, me and my wife sober now, 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:51.840 but when we first got together, I was the doll one. Yeah, 1:10:51.880 --> 1:10:54.519 shout out to my wife. Man, she's she is the 1:10:54.560 --> 1:10:59.479 sober one. And but she was like a fucking mad 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:02.519 woman when I first got with her. You know, I 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:04.720 think the first five times I've seen her, I just 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:06.639 I just asked her for a bump in a xanax 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:09.360 bar like in past, and I was like, you got 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:10.920 a bump? She's like yep, And she'd feed me a 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:13.680 fucking just big old fucking hogger. And then I'd be like, 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:15.680 later that night i bump into her again at some 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:17.599 bar or some casino, I'd be like, you got a xanax. 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:19.599 She's like yep. She'd like she was like a past 1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:22.680 dispenser of drugs. That's fucking great. Yeah. Literally, she was 1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:25.160 just like the fucking she was the mountain ferry in 1:11:25.200 --> 1:11:27.519 the bathroom, right, she was back to you know, she 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:30.280 was just running around just feeding it did too much cocaine. 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:33.320 It's hard to fuck on that, right. Oh well, fuck 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:37.000 I mean, we've already discussed my struggles. I would need 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:41.080 a blue shoe times two in a miracle. It's fucking 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:46.040 is it harder to fuck when you're at the size 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:49.120 you are in terms of just like the geometry of 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:54.719 the situation, like playing fucking uh twister, left foot on yellow, 1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:58.080 right hand on red, Move this here, set this on 1:11:58.120 --> 1:12:00.720 your back, was saying turn this one. I mean, I 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:02.720 feel like you were. You did have an error though, 1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:04.760 where you lost a lot of weight. I did, Yeah did, 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:06.960 Yeah I did, And believe it or not, let's be clear. 1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:09.759 I'm I'm down like twenty five thirty pounds. I joked 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:12.160 that great. I'm taking my health serious. I go see 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:14.360 my cardiologist every three months. But you're trying to get 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:16.599 losing the weight at a good rate. I don't want 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:18.080 to lose it too fast because of the heart. When 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:19.679 people are like, I don't want to see nothing bad 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:21.639 happen to you, Like, look, I used to do cocaine 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:24.200 and sip lean, y'all, I'm gonna be okay. Don't worry 1:12:24.240 --> 1:12:27.120 about me. I'm I'm all right. I'm being facetious more 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.320 often than not. But yeah, it's like, fuck, I lose 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.680 the weight again. Pandemic Just fucking did it to me, 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:34.960 you know, just fucking me too. I never had to 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:38.439 sit still. I lost like forty pounds. Oh u, I 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:40.680 gained forty pounds. You know what's crazy? You were like 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:43.400 me though. I never had to sit Yeah, it was 1:12:43.439 --> 1:12:45.719 like the first time from years of touring that God 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:47.280 was just like, no, you're gonna just sit here. You 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:49.760 had to cancel some shows too. Oh fuck a whole 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:54.479 Tech nine tour. That's right, fifty seven cities or something happened. 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:57.439 It's the best tour that never took off. Wow, I 1:12:57.479 --> 1:13:00.519 forgot that heartbreak and now we have a gold record 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:05.880 together that we've never even performed, Creature's Gold. Yeah, jeez, 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:10.479 it's fucking nuts. I forgot and then he had to 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:13.120 redo it. But with Ritz yep, Shout out to Ritz, 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.519 Shout out to Ritz. Still fucking out there, slugging, still 1:13:16.560 --> 1:13:19.720 out there, is going to rits Man. I can tell 1:13:19.720 --> 1:13:23.040 you this. Ain't nobody out rapping rits I don't disagree. Mean, 1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:24.880 he knows this, how he knows how I feel about him. No, 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:28.000 ain't nobody out rapping rits Man. You know when when 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:30.400 he's in his bag, ain't nobody fucking with that dude. Man, 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:34.519 I just hope one day Ritz can have an honest 1:13:35.040 --> 1:13:39.160 bio book because he has some of the craziest stories 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:42.479 that he can never tell on camera. Oh it's fucking 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:45.639 it's a wild boy. That No, that dude's fucking nuts. 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:48.680 I'm a little crazy. He's a lunatic. Yeah, he's a 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:54.839 fucking lunatic. Yeah, he's crazy. Cool watching that whole scene 1:13:55.160 --> 1:13:58.120 and everybody grow the way they have for sure, for 1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:01.040 sure leaving like a guy like Caski. You know, look, 1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:03.439 he records here, he just did this album here. Yeah, 1:14:04.280 --> 1:14:07.960 love what he's doing. You know y'all talked about on 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.519 the podcast. Obviously we all got in a weird spot 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:15.200 because CASKI ended up like dissing some other dudes that 1:14:15.240 --> 1:14:19.040 we associate with in the circuit. And it's like, I'm glad, 1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:21.840 I'm glad that somehow paralleled into this, because you know 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:25.000 what hurts me about that whole situation is watching a 1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:27.439 bunch of really good dudes that don't know each other 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:30.519 have a problem with each other and me knowing every 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:33.320 one of them personally and being like, y'all are all 1:14:33.360 --> 1:14:35.719 really good dudes. Though. Look, if you guys ever actually 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:38.559 hung out. Yeah, Like if you knew Adam Calhoun's heart, 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:43.040 and that dude is a fucking sweetheart. Man, He's a 1:14:43.040 --> 1:14:46.840 good fucking father. He's a dedicated you know, he's just 1:14:46.920 --> 1:14:49.599 like a good dude. That's fair, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:52.000 Like it's like if you knew that about him, Like 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:56.160 how much he just celebrates other people winning and how 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:58.320 much he's one of the first text I get every 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:01.160 time I do something cool, you him, And there's a 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:03.519 group of people that every time something even looks cool, 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:05.480 he's one of the first texts. Like such a sweetheart, 1:15:06.080 --> 1:15:08.840 CASKI I've watched since he was a kid, like that. 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:11.760 He's a great dude, Like Cask's not a bad Yeah, 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:15.040 I don't know what the root of their issue is. 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:17.840 I think that you know what I think, man, this 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:21.559 is what I truly think. I think that during the 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:29.360 pandemic and I'm I'm like a really independently thinking guy. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:32.200 I kind of consider myself like more in like the 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:37.120 Joe Rogan lane of politics, socially liberal. I want to 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:39.080 I want to protect my family. I want to be 1:15:39.080 --> 1:15:42.440 able to, you know, obviously within reason, have access to weapons, 1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:45.519 and you know, I do feel like eighteen year old 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:47.600 kids who just graduated high school shouldn't be able to 1:15:47.640 --> 1:15:50.559 go by two ar fifteen's without taking a class or something. 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:54.200 I'm not saying take the guns, just like you know, 1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:56.600 maybe go through a course before you get something like that. 1:15:56.720 --> 1:15:59.400 But I do think that like a guy like al 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:03.559 Adam Alhoun, who I didn't know anything about except for 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:07.840 when CASKI because I'm closed with CASKI. And then the 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:12.160 first thing I just see is all this politics, shiit this, 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:14.880 you know, the mag of shit. And to me, I'm like, 1:16:14.920 --> 1:16:17.479 all right, well, anybody who rides out it'd be like 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:19.639 if there was a Joe bid like a rapper riding 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:23.640 for Joe Biden, I'd be like crazy, right, And so 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:27.320 you know, and that's why, like I like, when I 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.120 saw that, I was just like, yeah, dude, like I 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:31.080 don't I don't get that ship. And and to me, like, 1:16:31.120 --> 1:16:33.439 at the end of the day, people make music for 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.680 all types of audiences. And you know, I think a 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.519 guy like Struggle is like a perfect example of somebody 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:42.479 who may feel however he feels, but he's just making 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:47.960 music and he's not like making it in a divisive 1:16:48.080 --> 1:16:53.360 way that makes fans feel that they have to shoot, 1:16:53.479 --> 1:16:55.880 Like if does that make sense? What I'm saying, Like 1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:59.080 that makes more sense than anything. And I live in 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:02.360 the complete opposite world of everybody. I don't have an 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:06.360 opinion about this shit at all. Like I hate our government. 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:09.360 I hated our government with every president we've had since 1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:11.640 I was like fourteen, because they charged me as an 1:17:11.640 --> 1:17:14.519 adult for a crime I committed when I was fucking 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:17.400 fifteen years old. They took every right I have away 1:17:17.400 --> 1:17:20.120 from him. Because of that, I am personally protesting our 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:22.680 government I have been forever. It's like, I don't give 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:25.840 a fuck. I think it's all a divide and conquer thing. 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:29.080 I think a two party system is just meant for failure, right, 1:17:29.880 --> 1:17:31.360 So I don't get him wrapped of it, none of 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:35.720 that shit. But my thing is too, is that this 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:37.479 is I tell you this story, and this is what 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:41.080 changed my perspective. My brother's here, he knows this to 1:17:41.080 --> 1:17:45.920 be true. My father was I don't think I've ever 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:51.880 said this publicly. My father was a progressive man. He 1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:55.360 probably leaned a little liberal in his older age, right. 1:17:56.400 --> 1:17:59.000 My uncle was a progressive man that leaned a little 1:17:59.000 --> 1:18:01.240 conservative in his own older age. They grew up together 1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:04.720 three years apart, best fucking friends from birth seventy in 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:09.040 their seventies, my father was more of a Methodist Church 1:18:09.160 --> 1:18:11.400 kind of man, which is a kind of a portion 1:18:11.479 --> 1:18:13.920 of a Catholic thing, not a portion, but it rides 1:18:13.960 --> 1:18:18.280 that fensive kind of direct to the scripture, real, stand up, pray, simple. 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:20.800 You know. My uncle at the time especially was more 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:22.720 of a Pentecostal guy, which is more of you know, 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:28.120 you know, there's a big difference. Right. One day, when 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:30.639 my dad was dying, I said, how have you and uncle? 1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:33.519 You have been best friends for all these years, and 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:38.040 y'all don't agree about anything. My father set me straight. 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:40.879 He said, what are you talking? We don't agree about anything. 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:46.280 He said, we slightly disagree about two things. We agree 1:18:46.280 --> 1:18:50.160 about a thousand things. He's like, I don't understand why 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:51.920 the world wants to talk about the two things they 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:54.920 don't agree about instead of the thousand things we can 1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:58.720 make progress with that we do agree with. Right, And 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:01.640 that just changed the way I look at life. You 1:19:01.720 --> 1:19:05.920 know what I'm saying. It's like immediately I look past it, 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:07.560 So I guess it's like even with the ship, I 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:10.240 don't think I'm old school enough to think that. You know, 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:14.400 I don't know what I think about politics being the music. Right, 1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:18.040 it's been around as long as we've been around. YEAHBLIC pests, 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:20.679 public Enemy is making protest music, raige against the machine. 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:24.400 It's been happening, so, you know, it's funny. I was 1:19:24.439 --> 1:19:27.280 thinking about it, Like when Adam and them first started rapping. 1:19:27.320 --> 1:19:29.599 I would look at that like, oh, dude, these dudes 1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:33.080 are like, this isn't protest music. They're green with the government. 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:38.200 And then there's a regime switch in America, right, the 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:40.760 part of the political parties changes and suddenly it's like, oh, 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:43.240 well that's protest music now. And that just showed me 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:46.800 how unstable the foundation of America is in itself. Yeah, 1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:49.880 I mean, I guess with that dude, you know, I 1:19:49.880 --> 1:19:53.320 don't know much about his whole catalog. I guess I've 1:19:53.360 --> 1:19:55.679 just seen a few these guys some stuff that's really dope. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.320 But then I've seen like there's but then there's other 1:19:58.360 --> 1:20:00.360 guys like you know, I'll see like a the dude 1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:04.000 from Florida, what's that dude's name, the MAGA rapper dude Blood. Yeah, 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:06.400 now that to me, to me, that ship is just corny. 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:08.360 It's corny to me because I know what he was 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:10.360 doing before he was doing he was doing the blue 1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:15.080 hair fucking bootleg riff raff ship I lived, was doing 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:17.519 like the the white Rick Ross thing, right. Yeah, it 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:21.960 was like his angle, And to me it's like low 1:20:22.000 --> 1:20:26.120 hanging fruit and it's like the artist the artistic integrity 1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:29.040 is like, Yo, you're kind of like putting all your 1:20:29.040 --> 1:20:32.160 eggs in this basket, but that basket has a ceiling 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:34.640 that's this high for sure. I guess when you've been 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:36.519 making shitty rap music for as long as that guy 1:20:36.600 --> 1:20:39.400 has any fandom, you're gonna be like, well, I'm making 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:41.160 money over here, so I'm gonna lean into this ship. 1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.360 But to me, it's just like divisive. But I do think, 1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:47.280 like I said, like, you know, it's important like for 1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:52.240 me if I if I don't agree with somebody on 1:20:52.320 --> 1:20:54.720 certain ship like I have. I have people in my 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:56.680 life who will cut people off based on like their 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.360 opinion on one or two things. And to me, that's 1:20:59.400 --> 1:21:02.840 never like uh productive, No, it's like and that I 1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:04.760 guess that that goes back to my thing with him 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:07.640 was like I know Adam outside of the music. I 1:21:07.680 --> 1:21:10.160 know cast outside of the music. I know, everybody was 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:13.400 politically charged in that moment except for Jolly Roll because 1:21:13.439 --> 1:21:17.519 fuck our government forever. But it's one of those things 1:21:17.520 --> 1:21:19.360 where like, I know these dudes to be good dudes, 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:23.760 so you look when that happens, and you're like, I 1:21:23.800 --> 1:21:26.000 wish I could get y'all together to just like talk 1:21:26.160 --> 1:21:29.160 like responsible dudes and like, you know what I mean, 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:34.200 like y'all have so much, like y'all would actually have 1:21:31.920 --> 1:21:38.639 a have a hilarious conversation. Tom McDonald's the same way. 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:42.360 You know. Yeah, yeah, he's from Canada, but he's fucking 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:45.320 you know, I don't. I don't like again like I did, 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:51.519 because he's independent and I I I'm also kind of 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:53.040 like I like when you know, he does a lot 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:57.400 of the YouTube rap shit, like you know, And I 1:21:57.439 --> 1:22:00.479 watched a vlog he did about uh him and that 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:04.760 dude's album being fucked on Billboard, and I watched that 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:07.200 because I was actually interested in that because I'm like, yo, 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:10.120 as an independent artist, that's crazy what that dude's doing. 1:22:10.200 --> 1:22:12.479 I might not fuck with his music, right, but it's 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:14.880 insane the business he's built, right, and it's like just 1:22:14.960 --> 1:22:17.360 him and his girl. Yeah, for sure, No, that's the 1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:19.639 shit I can look past and I'm like, yo, this 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:21.880 is this respectable like, you know, like I might not 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:23.559 agree with, like I might not be a fan of 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:25.439 like his shit, like it's just not for me, but 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:28.960 I can at least appreciate it. Independent artists doing that 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:30.960 kind of shit. That shit's crazy. He's got a record 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:32.920 he put out called Scars. It's like a rock kind 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:36.320 of driven record. That's fucking incredible songwriting. And that's kind 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:38.280 of where I live with everybody, right, Like I'm just 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:41.240 always looking for I don't know, I guess I'm a songwriter, 1:22:41.400 --> 1:22:43.839 so I'm kind of overarm and all that other shit anyway, 1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:46.040 So I'm like, does he have a song I thought 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:49.160 was written really well? And Adam's got a few cask 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:51.639 He's got a lot yellow Holfs, got more than probably anybody. 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:53.680 Struggles got to tell him. These are dudes that I'm 1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:55.960 just like rits that I can just look at and 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:58.639 be like, Yo, I don't you know, I don't give 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:01.880 a fuck if you were the biggest Biden support on Earth. 1:23:01.920 --> 1:23:04.000 This song fucks you know what I'm saying, Like this, 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:06.000 I'll tell you this much. It's like listen r Kelly's 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:08.760 a piece of shit. I love his music. You're not 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:10.920 gonna get me to quit listening to I wish. You 1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:14.120 just can't do that to me, dude, I'm sorry, cancel me. 1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:17.879 Fuck it. How about this somebody from the artist? Somebody 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:20.920 cover it then, But don't take a song that I 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:24.759 played at funerals away from me, because this man's just comeback. 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:27.240 Somebody cover it, Like, don't tell me something about Michael 1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:29.559 Jackson and the Human Nature is one of my favorite 1:23:29.560 --> 1:23:32.840 songs ever. You know, somebody cover it. If there's a 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:34.800 better version out there, I'll bump it, you know what 1:23:34.840 --> 1:23:37.200 I'm saying, that's for sure. But it's like, man, that 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:40.280 fucking so dude, I've cried dozens of tears that I 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:42.479 wish it's a great record. I love our I mean. R. 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:44.200 Kelly is probably my favorite R and B singer ever, 1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:47.240 outside of him being a piece of shit strictly discography 1:23:48.320 --> 1:23:51.360 twelve play. You know, if I didn't know his name, 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:54.240 or know that he pissed on Little Girls or watch 1:23:54.320 --> 1:23:57.400 the fucking wild R. Kelly series, that was fucking nuts. 1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:00.400 Oh my god. If I didn't know that it was 1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:01.720 just the voice of the radar, I'd be like, Yo, 1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:05.960 this fucking slaps Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. How do 1:24:06.000 --> 1:24:08.679 you like? Do you do you even participate? We're talking 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:10.360 about the politics. Should you vote? Do you like? Are 1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:14.120 you able to? Because A yeah, man, fuck our government. 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:16.000 You know who? You know who I want to vote for? 1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:18.880 Who gives me the right to vote? You show me 1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:22.800 this guy. I rally behind him tomorrow. I don't care 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:26.200 what party he's a part of. The Dude who's like yo, 1:24:26.280 --> 1:24:32.519 Because listen, I'm fighting to get into Canada. Fighting tough, dude, 1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:35.720 I'm New Zealand. There's a ton of places that you 1:24:35.960 --> 1:24:39.479 just can't go to that you're like life changing. Money 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.439 is sitting. Get done to get into Canada, Dude, I've 1:24:42.439 --> 1:24:45.360 got to get a minister's permit. I've got to get 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:47.800 a lawyer. It's gonna cost one hundred thousand dollars to 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:50.519 even see if it can happen. I'm gonna have to 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:53.920 just throw one hundred thousand dollars into a wishing well. 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:59.680 I just had to pay like thirty thousand dollars to 1:24:59.760 --> 1:25:02.800 get a passport just to be able to leave America. 1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:05.000 I just had to go clean up so much shit 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:07.320 just to be able to leave America for my criminal records. 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:09.880 Like and I love when somebody for sure will comment 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:12.519 on this. Buildings can vote, buildings can do this, And 1:25:12.600 --> 1:25:14.160 they're going to put up a bunch of links that 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:17.000 I've already went to and tried to figure out. Tennessee 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:21.320 has a zero forgiveness policy for violent offenders. Unfortunately, I 1:25:21.360 --> 1:25:23.320 was fifteen years old. I'm not proud of it. I 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:26.280 committed a violent offense that they deemed hard enough for 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:29.599 me to be charged as an adult three years before 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:32.080 I mean a year and a half before I fucking 1:25:32.120 --> 1:25:35.360 grew up sack of hair on my sack. I was 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:38.120 charged as an adult three years before I was allowed 1:25:38.120 --> 1:25:40.080 to buy a pack of cigarettes five years according to 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:42.320 the age thing now, which I just found out yesterday, 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:44.040 you have to be twenty one to buy cigarettes. Now, 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:46.080 that's how much I don't give a fuck about policies 1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:51.800 and politics. I missed that completely, but three years for ultimately, 1:25:51.840 --> 1:25:54.519 what I'm getting at here is because of something I 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:56.280 did when I was a child, the government has taken 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:59.280 away tons of rights for mine. The right to vote, 1:25:59.280 --> 1:26:03.040 getting home on their insurance was next to impossible, renting houses, 1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:06.640 renting the buildings to work out of studios. There's so 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:10.800 many things associated with if you're NFL. It's like when 1:26:10.800 --> 1:26:12.639 people they always say, like you almost have to lie 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:14.439 on a job out of you have to for sure. 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:17.519 So it's like, I go through all these struggles and 1:26:17.560 --> 1:26:20.479 then you want me to talk about like you should 1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:22.720 speak up about politics. You don't want to hear my 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:27.040 randmotherfucker fuck our government. It fucked me, fucked me, fucked me. 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:28.800 I think we're just like in a place where the 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:35.680 far the far right and the far left are controlling 1:26:35.680 --> 1:26:39.040 the narrative and dividing the country. That a country that 1:26:39.120 --> 1:26:41.639 most people agree on more shit than they don't, for sure, 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:45.800 but the extreme opposite of each side is so fucking crazy, 1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:48.800 and it's like, are we in the fucking episode of 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:52.639 the part's the hardest thing to watch. It goes back 1:26:52.640 --> 1:26:56.200 to just divide and concer. It's all divisive, all divisive, man, 1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:58.960 Any any system is that way. It's just it's it's 1:26:59.000 --> 1:27:01.360 made to eat us from the end side out. And 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:04.120 that's just I feel like it's getting worse. Yeah, it's 1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:07.919 only gonna get worse. And I'll start speaking more publicly 1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:11.120 about how I feel about politics when I fucking they 1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:14.599 start making ship right by us. And that's just how 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:16.800 I feel. I feel like everybody's I'm just I gonna 1:27:16.800 --> 1:27:19.719 know I'm better. Holy Graduate, Florida. If you're a felon, 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:22.360 you can vote, Yeah, I mean you can in Tennessee 1:27:22.439 --> 1:27:26.519 if you have a forge a forgivable felone. Yeah. It's 1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:28.360 like I have to get a governor's pardon, which I'm 1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:30.439 working on. I'm talking to building. You're kind of you know, 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:32.479 you're you're a big guy now. Yeah, And it's like 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:34.840 I work in good circles. We have a Democratic mayor 1:27:34.840 --> 1:27:37.720 in Nashville. We're friends, we get along well. I have 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:40.240 a Republican governor. We're friends and we get along with 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:42.080 I do a lot for the community. I'm always trying 1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:44.200 to push the ball for it. I'm big. I'm donating 1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:46.120 one hundred percent of the money from the Bridgetonne Arena 1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:49.280 show to at risk youth. I'm building a music center 1:27:49.320 --> 1:27:52.280 inside of the Juvenile Downtown Wow and we're putting together 1:27:52.320 --> 1:27:54.599 with the Youth Impact Rears out to Robert Sherrill. We're 1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:58.040 building aftercare program that kids will be cornered ported to 1:27:58.640 --> 1:28:01.160 if they get charged as juveniles. I'm fixing to put 1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:02.519 my money in my mouth. There's gonna be a lot much. 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:04.840 I'm gonna make a big difference. You're selling out your 1:28:04.880 --> 1:28:07.880 hometown and then putting that money right back in that 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.080 big and I'm matching it on top of the top 1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:13.160 of it. That's crazy. I'll tell you what the number 1:28:13.200 --> 1:28:15.240 is off camera. That's a lot, man, I mean, I'm 1:28:15.240 --> 1:28:17.559 sure it's a lot. It's a lot. Sounds like about 1:28:17.560 --> 1:28:23.040 a quarter. It's you're warm, but not hots you that much. 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:25.879 I mean it's it's a lot of money. That's beautiful, man. Yeah, 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:27.960 what is that? Because that's what I'm passionate about. Right. 1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:29.799 So when people are like, what do you think about, 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.280 you know, whatever's happening in the world today, I'm like, 1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:33.760 I don't know, man. I'm just trying to figure out 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:35.559 a way that i can help some fourteen year old 1:28:35.640 --> 1:28:38.280 kid not throw his life away at fourteen, not make 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:40.240 the same mistakes I did. Yeah, dude, they wouldn't let 1:28:40.280 --> 1:28:42.680 me in the community college because of my felonies. What 1:28:43.040 --> 1:28:45.040 I had, a community college that couldn't get me the 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:50.200 money because of my felonies. You know you're talking about, dude. 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:52.320 I was fucking fifteen, man, I mean, thank god it 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:54.639 worked out the way it worked out for me. But yeah, dude, 1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:56.120 I could have been a fucking doctor or something. I 1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:58.320 don't know. Guy's the limit. The way I'm driving, I 1:28:58.320 --> 1:29:01.599 could have been a brainshurting. I'm helping more people doing music, 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:03.719 so you think you can that felony at that age 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:07.840 put you on a path for sure. And my big 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:11.360 problem with this is you're not talking about a decision 1:29:11.400 --> 1:29:15.719 that like adult makes adults make, right. We're not talking 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:19.519 about like the revolving door of a grown man who 1:29:19.520 --> 1:29:21.840 needs to change his life, like you're talking about a kid. 1:29:21.960 --> 1:29:25.160 Like these kids don't know any better. They're just products 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:27.479 of their environment. They're just trying to figure out what's 1:29:27.560 --> 1:29:30.720 next for them. It's fucking fucked up. They don't get 1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:34.679 that there's another opportunity. I didn't realize. There's no way. 1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:37.720 I was in my mid twenties before I realized how 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.800 much I fucked up at fifteen? Does that make sense? 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:43.599 Like before my brain could actually go, oh my god, 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:45.920 I like, really fucking what if you don't mind sharing 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:49.040 what happened? It was a robbery case. It was a 1:29:49.120 --> 1:29:52.400 robbery case, and uh, we were just kids, you know, 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:55.679 The saddest part is we were robbing a guy for weed, 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:58.320 but one of the other guys in there wasn't a 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:00.479 weed dealer and had some money and a watch or something. 1:30:00.479 --> 1:30:02.439 We were like, we were just fucking neighborhood kids. Man, 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:06.000 we're doing doesn't make it right. I'm embarrassed by it. 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:08.200 I never talk about it. The first podcast ever said 1:30:08.240 --> 1:30:11.519 what the charge was. I'm extremely embarrassed by this. Right, 1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:15.479 I'm nowhere near that man now, but thirty seven year 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:19.320 old man twenty fucking one years later, twenty two years later, 1:30:19.360 --> 1:30:22.240 I had to explain that to my home insurance, my 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:25.519 homeowner insurance people that tried to charge me more for 1:30:25.600 --> 1:30:28.880 being at risk. Wow, you know what I mean when 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.280 you're just like, are you fucking you know? I had 1:30:31.320 --> 1:30:35.160 a moment the other day where my child's mother, Bailey. 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:38.479 Bailey's mother's Felicia, and she's sober now. She was hooked 1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:40.400 on heroin for a while. I'm proud of she's sober, 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:42.760 and me and the wife do everything we can't help her. 1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:45.640 Custody of your daughter, we still do full custody, Yes, 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:47.639 I still do. Me and my wife. My wife made 1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:51.960 all that happen. Bunny and her really close, Bunny and Felicia, 1:30:52.000 --> 1:30:54.280 Bailey's mother, And she calls us and goes, hey, I'm 1:30:54.280 --> 1:30:57.439 trying to move closer to Bailey. I'm a felon. Can 1:30:57.479 --> 1:30:59.760 you get us a place? Can I put a place 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:01.559 in your name? And I don't think twice. I'm like, yeah, 1:31:01.560 --> 1:31:03.080 for sure, I got you, dude, I got whatever. You know, 1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:04.920 I'll go fuck send an application. I feel that out 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:09.320 right now. I forgot I'm a felon, so it fucking 1:31:09.360 --> 1:31:11.360 fires back on me. And then she can't get there. 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:13.120 Now we're doubled down in fuck, so we gotta find 1:31:13.120 --> 1:31:15.000 a new place and put it in Bunny's name, you 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:17.280 know what I mean. It's like I've been I haven't 1:31:17.280 --> 1:31:19.040 been on the lease of any house that I didn't 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:21.760 own ever. You know what's crazy is when me and 1:31:21.800 --> 1:31:26.320 my wife first moved to Cali, I had a misdemeanor 1:31:27.080 --> 1:31:32.200 and she had some duy shit right, And you would 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.519 have thought that we were murderers the way people were 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:38.680 like denying our fucking are our shit? Like it was 1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:42.000 like what the fuck? Yeah, No, for sure, it's crazy. No, 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:45.400 it's fucking our system is fucked in so many ways. Yeah, 1:31:45.400 --> 1:31:47.000 and I feel like if you're a felon, it's almost 1:31:47.080 --> 1:31:50.559 like having a like the scarlet letter in society. Right, 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:52.640 It's like, dude, like you really really almost as like 1:31:52.680 --> 1:31:55.240 impossible for you to really have like a normal fucking life. 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.240 You really need help from other people to like get 1:31:57.240 --> 1:31:59.320 shipped or to like appreciate someone to take a chance, 1:31:59.360 --> 1:32:03.240 give you an opportunit unity getting good jobs. Do you 1:32:03.280 --> 1:32:05.320 know what's crazy is that I couldn't be in the 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:09.000 medical field if I wanted to. There's like four or 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:12.880 five industries that just wept. Even if you get the 1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:16.040 job and maybe you want to be a supervisor manager, 1:32:16.640 --> 1:32:19.040 you can't. No, there's a wall. Even if there's jobs 1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:20.840 that'll let you get there, it's like, no, we just 1:32:21.400 --> 1:32:24.040 move because they look at you. You're a felon. No, 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:29.679 it's fucking It's as wrong as it can be. It's sad. Yeah, 1:32:29.680 --> 1:32:33.599 I think that's some broken ship man. Yeah, Like there's 1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:36.880 like no forgiveness, like no societal forgiveness. I get it 1:32:36.920 --> 1:32:39.840 if you like fucking you know, are a fucking creep 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:42.200 or you did some but like I say it all 1:32:42.240 --> 1:32:44.640 the time, I think fucking pedophile should be shot on 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:47.000 National TV every Friday for our enjoyment. It's a great 1:32:47.280 --> 1:32:49.439 I think they should tell us a story. They should 1:32:49.439 --> 1:32:51.720 show us the family's pain. They should show us the 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:53.920 weirdo and we should get to watch them be headed 1:32:54.240 --> 1:32:56.040 that we should have it. We should. They should sell 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:57.800 it like pay per views and then give that money 1:32:57.800 --> 1:33:00.360 to the family. Watch every Friday. I'd pay every Friday. 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:01.880 They get twenty bucks out of me every Friday to 1:33:01.880 --> 1:33:03.720 watch them. They had a pedophile, right, you know what 1:33:03.760 --> 1:33:06.120 I'm saying. If it went like you know, I trust me, 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:08.600 I'm not like I'm not you know, I'm just on 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:11.160 the justice reform as far as like the decision there 1:33:11.200 --> 1:33:13.280 of course, especially if you do some stupid shit as 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:15.920 a kid, for sure. Yeah, it's like, come on, dude, 1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:17.959 if you stay, I think if you give me an opportunity, 1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:21.400 opportunity to restitute it out, Like let me go give 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:25.000 these dudes whatever they think they lost times fifty and 1:33:25.040 --> 1:33:27.160 then square it up with these dudes that were we 1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:30.000 robbed twenty two years ago, and then let me, you know, 1:33:30.080 --> 1:33:31.559 like make me. I don't care if I have to 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:33.640 work for it, just give me a fucking option. Like 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:35.640 just don't say no, man, it's hard state policy. You 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:38.680 get zero forgiveness for that, or like if you're out 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:42.000 of the system long enough, like it doesn't show up, 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:44.720 or I don't know for sure something where Yeah, it's 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:48.360 just whatever, So what is next? Obviously, Jimmy Kimmel is 1:33:48.400 --> 1:33:51.120 a big deal. I'm sure you're excited for that, But 1:33:51.200 --> 1:33:55.040 what about just in terms of I know you for 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:59.839 a while, where are you technically independent? Are you still situation? 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:02.439 So I have a deal with Broken Bowl Records, which 1:34:02.479 --> 1:34:04.760 is BMG, which I looked up that Dicky Black and 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:09.280 thought about that, and uh, it's it is a deal. 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:13.000 But I did maintain ownership of my master's which is huge. 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:16.559 It's a big deal. It's the deal is incredible and 1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:18.600 the deal is so incredible that I'm not allowed to 1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:22.000 talk about it. But the deal is incredible. It's awesome. 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:24.880 It's a great deal. I'm happy, and I don't know 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:26.880 a lot of people in record deals that are happy. 1:34:27.160 --> 1:34:29.760 Most people aren't. Yeah, And I've been completely independent my 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:32.080 whole career, so I know the other side of that happiness, 1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:35.960 and I'm happier now. You know. They've they've they've done 1:34:35.960 --> 1:34:37.800 everything they said they were going to do times too. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.880 I think they're worth every penny we pay them. You know, 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:43.160 I'm I just I am in love with this deal. 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:45.800 And is there going to be a big are you 1:34:45.840 --> 1:34:48.479 going to be announcement tour anytime? Now? You know, we're 1:34:48.479 --> 1:34:50.280 to know I'm shining down later this year. I got 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:52.000 a bunch of Brandley Gilbert dates. We're like on the 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:54.360 road NonStop still, and I know you're doing a lot 1:34:54.400 --> 1:34:56.920 of shows in Florida Thursday and Friday of this week. 1:34:57.040 --> 1:35:00.959 I'll literally fly straight from you know Burke Price's podcast 1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:04.720 to go do a show is the plan. Yeah, I'm 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:06.880 gonna do over one hundred shows this year. I'm gonna 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:08.519 announce a big next year. It will be a big, 1:35:08.560 --> 1:35:11.080 proper tour for me though. It'll be like your headlining, 1:35:11.120 --> 1:35:13.519 your big headlining. I mean, obviously you've had a bunch 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:16.639 of headlining tours, but this would be like the headlining tour. 1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:19.240 Yeah for sure. Because what is like if you were 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:21.360 to get booked, like what do you what do you say? 1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:23.519 Is like your average cap like it for a solo 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:26.599 jelly roll show? If someone books you five to twelve thousand, 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:31.000 now fucking crazy man. Yeah for sure, few markets we 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:34.080 might still play thirty five and fours, but that's so big. 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:37.880 I suspect that if we don't play the UH. I 1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:40.080 suspect that we'll either play the Honda Center when we 1:35:40.120 --> 1:35:42.840 come back, or we'll play the Palladium two nights in 1:35:42.880 --> 1:35:47.040 a row. That's my guess. That's my guess. Now that's fire. 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:50.679 It's my guess. That's my it's my hope. God willing 1:35:51.600 --> 1:35:53.759 we go straight to the Hollywood Bowl or something next summer. 1:35:54.640 --> 1:35:57.400 How's La as a market for you. I'm anxious to see, 1:35:57.680 --> 1:36:01.120 because La is an interesting I don't come out here enough, 1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:05.120 but I do know that, like northern California, Cali Country 1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:07.960 is a big market for me, that's for sure. We're 1:36:08.000 --> 1:36:11.160 doing Aftershock this year in Sacramento, oh shit, the Rock Festival, 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:14.120 so that'll be huge. Hopefully that'll bring some ass. I 1:36:14.160 --> 1:36:16.320 just don't come out here enough. Yeah, you don't, man, 1:36:16.360 --> 1:36:19.320 it's been a while. It's rough, man. It's a big 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:21.680 travel dude. It is a hike. Yeah, it's a big 1:36:21.760 --> 1:36:24.519 tras five hours for yeah, about four hours and forty 1:36:24.520 --> 1:36:29.519 five minutes in the air. It was rough. Your first class, yeah, yeah, 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:31.479 I gotta get that first class. Yeah. I mean I'm 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:33.320 too fat to sit anywhere else on that bland today 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:35.519 that much? Did they charge you twice if I had 1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:38.360 to get two seats? If I do it any other way? Oh, really, 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:39.880 I don't have to, but I do just because I 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:41.640 respect you know. I don't want nobody pushed up on 1:36:41.680 --> 1:36:44.920 me neither. Yeah, no matter what, you got a stranger 1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:46.760 cuddling on your left and r Yeah, it's like either way, 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:48.320 I want to be as comfortable as possible. I just 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.760 don't like the concept of flying anyways, which is why 1:36:50.800 --> 1:36:53.720 I got just blackout drunk today doing it. It's just 1:36:53.760 --> 1:36:56.160 a weird fucking thing to me. The worst is when 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:58.559 you eat inedible and a going on a flight thinking 1:36:58.560 --> 1:36:59.960 that it's going to like help you go to sleep. 1:37:00.160 --> 1:37:01.880 I'm playing the Hotness Center this year, by the way. 1:37:01.880 --> 1:37:03.720 You gotta come out, oh for men, shine down. Yeah, 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:08.479 we're doing a big spot in San Diego to summer. 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:11.599 I look at the dates, but we got a lot 1:37:11.640 --> 1:37:13.479 of shit coming right around here. Have you ever had 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:15.720 a we ate an edible on a plane and freak 1:37:15.760 --> 1:37:18.720 the fuck out. I have to eat an edible and 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:22.160 freak the fuck out once a week moment. Planes not planes, 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:24.559 just where I just overserve myself you know, I'm just 1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:28.040 saying where there is a thin line, because like even this, 1:37:28.520 --> 1:37:30.200 I can eat these, and if I eat too many, 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:33.120 it'll get wild. But I know, you know, I can 1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:36.519 kind of like a little crazier than shrooms. If you 1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:38.960 eat too you eat too much, I'm it gets fucking weird. 1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:43.160 It's all anxiety, and it almost like you can't do anything. 1:37:43.240 --> 1:37:47.559 No fuck no, like paralyz. Listen, man, it turns into 1:37:47.560 --> 1:37:51.200 a psychedelic spiritual experience fast. Did I eat some Rick 1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:53.880 Simpson oil pills the other day? Did we talk about 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:55.880 it on the phone. This is a great story too. 1:37:56.800 --> 1:37:59.800 I come home really drunk and the wife's out of town, 1:38:00.200 --> 1:38:01.880 and I hop on the game I'm playing, like Call 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:03.840 of Duty or something at like five in the morning, 1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:09.160 and I had a Rick Simpson oil peel like Rso 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:12.680 I take it. I don't think nothing of it. I'm 1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:15.120 so drunk I forgot I took it. So I look 1:38:15.200 --> 1:38:20.360 over and I take another one. Thirty minutes later, I'm 1:38:20.400 --> 1:38:24.519 so lit, I take a third one. I only know 1:38:24.560 --> 1:38:27.760 the number because I had four and I woke up 1:38:27.800 --> 1:38:30.280 with one. So this is me, assuming, this is me, 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:33.479 like reverse engineering, how my night went south? Right? Right. 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:37.680 At one point, my niece comes and wakes me up 1:38:37.720 --> 1:38:39.960 on the couch. I'm asleep with a controller in my hand. 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:42.280 The sun is blaring through the house at seven forty 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:45.320 five in the morning. I'm shirtless, sockless, and in my boxers. 1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:51.080 Imagine that look. And she wakes me up and goes, hey, 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.880 are you gonna go to bed? And I stumbled to 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:56.920 the bed and I fall asleep sitting up in the 1:38:56.960 --> 1:39:01.840 bed watching Family Guy like Back to the Thing for 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:06.439 ten hours. keV and I woke up with the worst 1:39:06.479 --> 1:39:09.080 anxiety I've ever woke up with. I felt like my 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:12.960 body was vibrating. Everything about it was wrong. I took 1:39:13.040 --> 1:39:15.960 like the Adam Sandler longest pitchmer that Adam Sandler City 1:39:15.960 --> 1:39:18.400 the world's longest. I mean, I pissed for like three 1:39:18.439 --> 1:39:20.720 minutes straight. It felt like I pissed for so long. 1:39:20.760 --> 1:39:23.519 I stopped and sat down. I was tired of standing 1:39:23.600 --> 1:39:26.280 up trying to piss. My body was vibrating. I had 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:29.760 the worst anxiety of my life the entire next day. Yeah, 1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:32.840 eating wheat is I just had a bad experience about 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:34.120 two weeks ago. Bro And I don't know if I 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:36.160 could ever. I don't know man, my worst nights of 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:38.600 my life have been too much edibles. Yeah, Like I 1:39:38.600 --> 1:39:40.679 could eat a lot of shrooms and like, I'll fucking 1:39:41.400 --> 1:39:44.800 it'll be out there, but I'll ground myself. Yeah. Eating 1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:47.160 wheat is dangerous, man. And it's not even the same 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:49.320 thing as smoking, it's not even close. It's you feel 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:52.040 that stomach churn and you know you fucked up. Yeah, 1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:53.680 you feel it in your gut and you're like, oh no, 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:56.080 this ain't it man, this is fixation. And you can 1:39:56.120 --> 1:40:00.639 also hallucinate. Yes, I've hallucinated. Yeah. I the worst time 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:04.200 I've ever had. I ate a cake pop on my 1:40:04.280 --> 1:40:10.040 way to yellowf and Ritz's show in Phoenix. And this 1:40:10.200 --> 1:40:14.080 was like twenty thirteen, twelve something like that, and uh, 1:40:15.840 --> 1:40:18.080 I was like new to eating weed, so I didn't 1:40:18.120 --> 1:40:19.439 know anything about it. So I was like, oh, it's 1:40:19.439 --> 1:40:20.680 a cake pop, so the whole thing, I guess. I 1:40:20.720 --> 1:40:22.479 was also a quarter of it. Oh yeah, it was 1:40:22.520 --> 1:40:24.400 like one hundred milligrams. I fucked up. How they do 1:40:24.479 --> 1:40:26.640 that to you? They give you two hundred milligrams and 1:40:26.680 --> 1:40:28.760 something this big and they're like, just eat a sweather out. 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:30.920 So I didn't. Yeah, So I didn't think much of it, 1:40:30.960 --> 1:40:34.439 you know. And I interviewed Ritz on the bus and 1:40:35.600 --> 1:40:38.639 they didn't hit me right. And then he was going 1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:40.880 to go on stage and I was in the crowd 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:42.840 and it hit me like a ton of bricks at once, 1:40:43.280 --> 1:40:46.759 and I couldn't move my legs. I was stuck in 1:40:46.840 --> 1:40:52.040 a standing position, and I bro, I could have you 1:40:52.040 --> 1:40:53.840 ever been so high in a place with a bunch 1:40:53.880 --> 1:40:55.760 of people where you could look across the room full 1:40:55.760 --> 1:40:58.559 of thousands of people and hone in on someone's conversation, Yes, 1:40:58.640 --> 1:41:01.599 from very far away. Yes. So I felt like fucking 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:04.639 I had like superpowers. And then I look on stage 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:08.360 and Rich is performing and Garfield the cat is the 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:12.400 cartoons up there with like slot machine dollar signed eyes 1:41:12.479 --> 1:41:15.160 going and I was just like my boy g O 1:41:15.280 --> 1:41:17.200 was with me, and I was like, bro, do you 1:41:17.439 --> 1:41:22.360 see the cat on stage? And I couldn't move. I 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:26.880 was stuck, and then I was puking everywhere. And then 1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:29.479 everything that could have happened what was the name of 1:41:29.520 --> 1:41:40.920 a Wolf's uh fucking extremely aggressive road manager Brooklyn. So 1:41:41.160 --> 1:41:44.679 I'm like on the side of the stage, fucking tripping 1:41:44.720 --> 1:41:48.000 the fuck out all the random crazy shit that could 1:41:48.040 --> 1:41:51.519 happen in front of somebody who was tripping. Happened this dude, 1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:54.760 Brooklyn pulled some dude off from the crowd, drags into 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:56.720 the side. He's two feet away from its beating the 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:58.599 shit out of this fucking guy. And I'm just like, 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:02.560 was crazy. Yeah, No, Brooklyn was fucking wild and he 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:04.640 didn't look like he was wild and wild boy. He 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:07.519 was an aggressive, normal looking guy, Yes, sir, just fucking 1:42:07.600 --> 1:42:14.080 did not look like all the fucking time. Yeah, yeah, 1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:16.360 so what you gotta Obviously you got music out now, 1:42:16.360 --> 1:42:18.679 but what's like, what's coming the rest of the year. Oh, dude, 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:20.920 speaking of Brooklyn side and I got Bobby straight Edge 1:42:20.960 --> 1:42:23.320 on tour. Me now shot to Bobby, good guy straight 1:42:23.360 --> 1:42:25.720 Edge out there. It's been awesome. His first weekend was 1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:28.280 last weekend. It was incredible. Yeah, he's good to have 1:42:28.320 --> 1:42:30.200 the homie back because he just did the Tech Tour. Two. 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:36.439 He's road managing one of our buses. Dude, I'm cooking. 1:42:37.120 --> 1:42:38.759 You know, I got a I got, you know, probably 1:42:38.800 --> 1:42:40.719 twenty thirty forty songs on my phone that I feel 1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:42.880 great about. I mean, you know, how typical songwriter. I 1:42:42.880 --> 1:42:45.280 got a hundred songs in my phone. But I'm sure 1:42:45.280 --> 1:42:48.080 the collaboration opportunities are getting bigger for you too, they are, 1:42:48.240 --> 1:42:50.400 And I'm really really kind of reaching out for what 1:42:50.479 --> 1:42:51.960 i want to do and I'm just taking. You know, 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:54.000 what I'm doing with this album, I've never done. I'm 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:57.200 kettle cooking it. It's a low cook. First, dude's in 1:42:57.240 --> 1:42:58.920 the kettle pot. I'm not putting this one on a 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:02.080 skillet at this one. And the smoker this ain't on 1:43:02.080 --> 1:43:03.800 the grill, you know what I mean. When I pulled 1:43:03.800 --> 1:43:05.519 this one, I was gonna fall off the b own baby, 1:43:06.040 --> 1:43:07.559 And that's my goal, you know what I mean. I'm 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:12.880 gonna really I'm like obsessing about songs, like obsessing about them. 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:17.680 So has the the country industry is a very it 1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:21.919 feels like there's they're very like it's like this, right, yeah, 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:25.240 have they embraced you so far? So good man? You know, 1:43:25.360 --> 1:43:27.280 it really helped me. Like it's some good old boys 1:43:27.280 --> 1:43:29.040 club type shit kind of there's some good old boy 1:43:29.040 --> 1:43:32.360 club shit there. There's some gatekeepers, but it's like, I 1:43:32.400 --> 1:43:35.280 think the country music has been missing what we bring 1:43:35.360 --> 1:43:36.839 to it. And that's what I was telling the Struggle 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:38.120 the other day because we're kind of working on a 1:43:38.120 --> 1:43:40.639 country record with him, Well, he's working on the country record. 1:43:40.680 --> 1:43:42.680 I'm trying to talk him and to put it out. 1:43:42.800 --> 1:43:48.600 But they haven't had the kind of like raw authenticity 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:51.120 and outlaws shit that we bring the country music the 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:54.559 seventies seventies. They've had versions of it, like My Boy 1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:57.120 Brantley Gilbert that came in the early two thousands, you know, 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:00.000 but it's like they haven't had it in so long 1:44:01.320 --> 1:44:04.880 and like really authentic, right, you know, like somebody who 1:44:04.960 --> 1:44:07.240 just doesn't give a fuck, you know. And it's like 1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:09.479 and they know I'm a good dude, like at heart, 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:15.120 they know the story, you know, my parenting, my my relationships. 1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:16.960 People that have been around me forever know that I'm 1:44:17.000 --> 1:44:19.400 not a bad human. But they also know that I'm 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:21.160 a bit of a wild card and don't give a fuck, 1:44:21.200 --> 1:44:23.200 and they love they kind of love it. They love 1:44:23.240 --> 1:44:24.880 that there's gonna be a clip that's gonna come out 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:27.320 of this podcast where I'm talking about my pecker smelling bad. Right, 1:44:27.360 --> 1:44:29.680 It's like you know what I mean, Like where traditionally 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:31.360 it'd be like there'd be a publicist in a room 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:34.240 in country interview, like what the fuck cut it right now? 1:44:34.600 --> 1:44:37.120 I want to watch you delete that part where they 1:44:37.160 --> 1:44:38.600 just kind of know that I'm always going to be 1:44:38.640 --> 1:44:40.400 a little bit of a loose cannon. And that's credit 1:44:40.479 --> 1:44:43.479 to Jonathan Loba, the head of Broken Bowl Records, the president. 1:44:44.400 --> 1:44:46.559 You'll meet him this week, and I can't wait for 1:44:46.600 --> 1:44:50.479 you to meet him. But Loba's got my back. He's like, look, man, 1:44:50.600 --> 1:44:54.200 we know we're not mistaken with who we signed. So 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:56.240 every now and then somebody will kind of ruffle some 1:44:56.240 --> 1:44:59.240 feathers about something I say that's wild and Lobo will 1:44:59.240 --> 1:45:01.200 just be like, look, that's all guy, we knew, we know, 1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:03.760 we knew, we know, Ja, you're not a robot bro 1:45:04.520 --> 1:45:06.840 for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't start the interview with 1:45:06.840 --> 1:45:08.280 what I grew up in a town with three hundred 1:45:08.280 --> 1:45:10.600 people right outside of you know. Yeah, I feel like 1:45:10.640 --> 1:45:14.880 the country ship this is so overly packaged, feels very 1:45:15.000 --> 1:45:18.519 like like like like everything is so on purpose and 1:45:18.640 --> 1:45:21.400 so like unorganic. It's like, well, there's a lot of 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:25.679 there's a lot of people. It's changing now because country 1:45:25.760 --> 1:45:28.879 music radio is getting bold and not afraid, which is awesome, 1:45:28.920 --> 1:45:31.760 but there was a long time where it was packaged, 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:34.800 right like find a guy who has the right look, 1:45:34.920 --> 1:45:37.439 decent voice, hook him up with hit songwriter, hook him 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:40.040 up with a hit producer, hook him up with stylists, 1:45:40.439 --> 1:45:44.160 dress him a certain way, give them media training, send 1:45:44.240 --> 1:45:48.920 him on a radio tour the Nashville version of K pop, right, 1:45:49.000 --> 1:45:50.600 and then you send him on a media tour and 1:45:50.640 --> 1:45:55.920 then insert big record here. You know. So, I feel 1:45:55.960 --> 1:46:00.280 a lot of those country guys come and go yeah, yeah, one, 1:46:00.280 --> 1:46:04.040 one hundred percent, like well, it's also weird because country 1:46:04.080 --> 1:46:06.360 music is another genre like other genres, where you'll have 1:46:06.360 --> 1:46:08.120 a dude who will have three or four number one 1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:10.240 records that can't sell out the triba door and knows 1:46:10.280 --> 1:46:13.160 what the he looks like, clueless and Kate's literally put 1:46:13.240 --> 1:46:14.680 him on the radio like, Hey, your guy who sung 1:46:14.720 --> 1:46:17.680 you these five songs in the last two years. They 1:46:17.720 --> 1:46:19.760 love you, They know who the fuck you are. That's 1:46:19.760 --> 1:46:21.160 the same shit with the rap shit. That's why I 1:46:21.200 --> 1:46:24.160 tell people, I'm like yo, Like, dude, just because you 1:46:24.200 --> 1:46:28.479 got hits don't mean people. What really tells you is 1:46:28.760 --> 1:46:31.320 how are your herd tickets? Can you make people care? 1:46:31.439 --> 1:46:33.639 Can you make people give a fuck about you enough 1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:35.799 to where they'll spend harder and money to come see 1:46:36.760 --> 1:46:39.080 perform your art and it's important that you take that 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:41.439 money serious. Right, It's like, you know what I think 1:46:41.439 --> 1:46:43.080 about before I do shows. I look at the line 1:46:43.080 --> 1:46:45.280 Every night a while, I go do a video, and 1:46:45.320 --> 1:46:46.840 I think about how much of a pain in the 1:46:46.880 --> 1:46:48.280 ass it is for me and my wife to have 1:46:48.320 --> 1:46:52.080 a date night. M M right, Like, how hard is 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:53.880 it for you and your wife to have some all time? 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:56.960 It is tough, right, it is tough, so busy, so 1:46:57.040 --> 1:46:58.920 much shit going on. So think about you went out 1:46:58.960 --> 1:47:03.120 of your way to make this night happen, Like this 1:47:03.200 --> 1:47:06.280 is your date night, this is your ship, Like you're 1:47:06.320 --> 1:47:09.679 here to have a great time, and I can't, baby, 1:47:09.720 --> 1:47:12.360 this is it. This might be the highlight of the year. 1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:15.440 This might be the only time y'all got a babysitter 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:18.080 in a hotel room, filled the car up, put on 1:47:18.120 --> 1:47:22.360 your best outfit. I imagine her ordering clothes. I imagine 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:24.639 her standing in the mirror, curling her hair. I imagine 1:47:24.680 --> 1:47:26.559 him sitting on a couchul wish in that bitch with hurry. 1:47:26.880 --> 1:47:30.599 I imagine all these scenarios I've been in. You know, 1:47:30.920 --> 1:47:35.240 I think deliver I think about that. I literally like 1:47:35.400 --> 1:47:38.280 obsess about that thought. I think about the dude who 1:47:38.400 --> 1:47:40.639 saved the money to get the ticket and then saved 1:47:40.640 --> 1:47:42.599 a little extra cash for some beer. And some merchant 1:47:42.640 --> 1:47:44.400 didn't tell his old girl, so she thinks they're on 1:47:44.439 --> 1:47:46.760 a strict budget. He walks in with a little little 1:47:46.800 --> 1:47:49.160 chunk on him. She don't know he's got baby, I've 1:47:49.160 --> 1:47:50.840 got a little extra bread. Let's check us out, grab 1:47:50.880 --> 1:47:53.880 your shirt, let's go get some. We're gonna drink all night. 1:47:53.920 --> 1:47:56.000 Fuck it now, we don't want the cheat beer. Get us, 1:47:56.000 --> 1:47:59.880 get us a butt light. Approach it that way. They're entitled. Man, 1:48:00.439 --> 1:48:02.200 I just look at it like, man, that's corract because 1:48:02.200 --> 1:48:03.559 I know how much of a pain in that, and 1:48:03.600 --> 1:48:07.120 I'm financially stable, and I know how hard it is 1:48:07.160 --> 1:48:08.679 for me and my wife to just make a night. 1:48:09.280 --> 1:48:11.040 I can only imagine, you know, think about the man. 1:48:11.400 --> 1:48:13.240 You know how many this dude had to go argue 1:48:13.240 --> 1:48:15.120 with his He had to go bow and kiss the 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:17.640 ring of his in law for a babysitter, you know 1:48:17.640 --> 1:48:19.000 what I mean. He had to go sit down with 1:48:19.040 --> 1:48:21.599 the mother in law he hates and go, hey, I 1:48:21.720 --> 1:48:23.760 really really need to night. I've got a chance to 1:48:23.760 --> 1:48:25.600 go see this jelly roll guy a couple hours up 1:48:25.640 --> 1:48:27.599 the street. I got a hotel room, can you please? 1:48:27.640 --> 1:48:29.960 And the fucking mother in law's got a list of demands. 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:32.920 He's got to cut her grass or some weird shit. 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:34.839 You know what I'm saying. I know, I know what's happening. 1:48:34.920 --> 1:48:37.160 So I think about that ship before I do a 1:48:37.200 --> 1:48:39.880 show every night. That shit's crazy. Most artist should have 1:48:39.880 --> 1:48:42.360 that approach, man, Yeah, I think about that in every aspect. 1:48:43.640 --> 1:48:47.880 All right, So Troubadour this week, Truba Door tomorrow, tomorrow, 1:48:47.920 --> 1:48:49.439 we're going all the time this comes out, the show 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:51.960 would already. Yeah, there'll be clips out on your Instagram. 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:55.920 Jimmy Kimmel, that's out. Go watch big tour, Big Tour 1:48:56.520 --> 1:48:58.679 putting out. I'll probably drop an album this year November. 1:48:58.720 --> 1:49:02.479 I'm guessing album November. Yeah, I'll be rapping on there. 1:49:02.640 --> 1:49:04.320 I got a rap project i'm working on too. I'm 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:08.120 gonna drop another rap project like strictly not like a 1:49:08.160 --> 1:49:11.519 better reminder roots. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Every now and 1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:14.800 then you did reestyle. I feel like it was it 1:49:14.880 --> 1:49:16.760 last year or two years. About a year ago, I 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:19.320 was still doing it. I thought I was gonna spit here, 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:27.240 but you never hit me. Don't don't tell me, you tweeted, 1:49:27.280 --> 1:49:30.760 me about spitting, because I'd have came ready to spit. 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:33.000 I probably still spit. Really, hold on, let me just 1:49:33.040 --> 1:49:36.360 show you what I tweeted you. Hold on jelly roll 1:49:36.439 --> 1:49:45.360 six one five, I said, hold on, where's it at? 1:49:46.720 --> 1:49:49.080 Someone tell jelly Roll have some bars from my show 1:49:49.080 --> 1:49:52.400 on his trip to La and June. Oh god, if 1:49:52.400 --> 1:49:55.360 i'd have seen that, I was I was joking with 1:49:55.400 --> 1:49:57.840 My wife asked me specifically. She was like, she was like, 1:49:57.880 --> 1:50:02.840 are you gonna go spit? I was like, oh my god, Papa, 1:50:03.840 --> 1:50:06.920 You're verified on here right, not on Twitter. I'm on 1:50:07.080 --> 1:50:09.439 we gotta figure that out on Instagram, I am. I 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:11.400 don't know how to get verified on Twitter. I figured 1:50:11.400 --> 1:50:16.360 it out. I feel like it just happens. We missed 1:50:16.360 --> 1:50:21.479 out on that one. I'm in town a couple of days. Well, listen, man, 1:50:22.600 --> 1:50:25.800 proud of you, buddy. What playing all right? Pull up 1:50:25.800 --> 1:50:29.479 a beat. I'm super proud of you though. I love you, man, 1:50:29.520 --> 1:50:31.120 Thanks for having I've been wanting to do this, I mean, 1:50:31.160 --> 1:50:32.080 the lot of you. Let me come in here and 1:50:32.080 --> 1:50:34.800 talk about ship I never talked about and uh, I'm 1:50:34.840 --> 1:50:37.280 just happy for you. Man. You're a great guy and 1:50:37.320 --> 1:50:39.519 I'm glad the whole world is finally catching on my 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:43.719 g let's go bootleg camp, bitch,