Speaker 1: You know. The good news is I've just assumed we
Speaker 1: were rolling. Now we're rolling. Yay, Right, we're fucking here
Speaker 1: talking about mushroom gummy. We're talking about mushroom gummies and
Speaker 1: how I was like, I'm gonna take six and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, just take two. And what were you
Speaker 1: saying about the type of drugs that you don't mind caring?
Speaker 1: I don't mind carrying any drug that you can ingest.
Speaker 1: That is like an immediate no problem. It's like the
Speaker 1: instant solving of the I don't want to we're getting
Speaker 1: pull over, we're stressed out. I could solve the pucking.
Speaker 1: Let's everybody just split the pack in half, right, and
Speaker 1: we're fucking We're all gonna be high, nobody's going to jail,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a wild afternoon. We didn't expect,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Those are the best ones.
Speaker 1: Have you done that where you've eaten drugs before you
Speaker 1: get pulled over? Yes, before the cops? Even I never
Speaker 1: I didn't even get whipped one time. He just followed
Speaker 1: me for so long. He took some fucking trooms. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: it took like a fucking whole fucking eighth. I mean
Speaker 1: a whole fucking quarter. I like did the journey dog.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was like, he followed me
Speaker 1: for like twelve minutes. I was like, he's whipping me
Speaker 1: at any moment, dude, I don't want to be caught
Speaker 1: scrambling when he does, so I just and somen of
Speaker 1: a bitch just bangs a hard left on me, like
Speaker 1: he watched me take him like, Hahi, Patty, have a
Speaker 1: good afternoon, bitch. Aren't those the best highs? Though? They're
Speaker 1: like the best drunks, Like when you go somewhere and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not gonna get drunk tonight, and at
Speaker 1: that this morning, you got drunk this morning? Yep, Yes,
Speaker 1: at seven fifteen this morning. You want to hear this story? Yeah,
Speaker 1: best story ever. We go get on our plane this morning.
Speaker 1: Our plane leaves at seven fifteen this morning. I'm on
Speaker 1: like two or three hours of sleep. I am. I
Speaker 1: hate flying. You've been a little sick too, I saw
Speaker 1: I've been a little under the weather. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: feel better because I took a steroid pack. I sit
Speaker 1: down on the plane and the dude next to me
Speaker 1: is just cool as fuck. And as soon as I
Speaker 1: sit down. I'm joking. I get on the plane. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're lucky contest the number one. You get the fat
Speaker 1: guy next to you today. I know that's what he's thinking,
Speaker 1: right when I'm standing in the aisle. Tell me it's
Speaker 1: not a plane full of people gonna please not me,
Speaker 1: not please, not me. And I'm like and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're it, buddy, I'm your guy. And I sit down
Speaker 1: next to him, and across from us is a night couple.
Speaker 1: They're gay couple, really nice couple. They're cool, they're in it.
Speaker 1: We're all engaging. We got a little thing going on
Speaker 1: this row. And before the plane takes off, the flight
Speaker 1: attendant's like, anybody want to drink? Us was a long
Speaker 1: flight and I was like, yeah, I'll tell you got tequila.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I got the margarita shooters. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know. He pours me a big, nice margarita. I
Speaker 1: smack it. Do next to me smacks a vodka and soda.
Speaker 1: This is seven seventeen, this morning, flights leaving at seven twenty.
Speaker 1: We're drinking before the door shut on the plane. The
Speaker 1: two dudes next to them, we're like, they get hype
Speaker 1: They're just like, well they're doing it, we'll do it.
Speaker 1: So the two dudes are like, fucking bring us to
Speaker 1: vodka sodas. You know how most times you would have
Speaker 1: a flight attendant who like his job is to kind
Speaker 1: of party police what's happening. We had the opposite flight attendant.
Speaker 1: He was a goddamn bartender. He would walk over and
Speaker 1: be like, are we drinking or do I need to
Speaker 1: twist an arm here or something? Fellas like gassing us up.
Speaker 1: We're like, fucking last week got the job. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like and I did find out he's getting off for
Speaker 1: four days. So he's like, brings us another drink. Now
Speaker 1: we've just got to the seat belts off and I'm too.
Speaker 1: Marguerite's in. I don't drink vodka. I just drink tequilak.
Speaker 1: The guy goes, I'm like, mask, give me into gesture. Man.
Speaker 1: He was like the gay dude, sweetest dude on earth,
Speaker 1: goes all big Papa, I got you. Just follow me.
Speaker 1: Do what you did for me. It was a no vodka,
Speaker 1: throw a splash of soda. He won't even notice of
Speaker 1: the common stomach down. It'll be the best thing to
Speaker 1: happened to him. These dudes start getting me fucked up.
Speaker 1: We smacked like six vodkas. This dude was like giving
Speaker 1: us last call before we dropped. When we're descending, he's like,
Speaker 1: I can legally give y'all one more. What do you think?
Speaker 1: And everybody's like hooray. At this point, we're all blackout drunk.
Speaker 1: Almost the two dudes behind the couple are drinking with us.
Speaker 1: Now there's another girl behind them that's participating. Like the
Speaker 1: entire front half of the plane is now getting just wrecked.
Speaker 1: This is amazing. It's dude. I pulled in like, I
Speaker 1: don't remember anything about getting to where we're staying at,
Speaker 1: any of the sequences that happened, from how we get there,
Speaker 1: who drove us, We came and ate a big breakfast,
Speaker 1: and I kind of got back on my feet. I
Speaker 1: was just sitting at the hotel pounding water when I
Speaker 1: got your text and I was like, I'm almost sobered
Speaker 1: up enough to go do this podcast. Well you're here.
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds like a great morning man. Is that
Speaker 1: not the best buzzes though? Yeah? For sure. I feel
Speaker 1: like unexpected nights are unexpected, Like I feel like when
Speaker 1: you go out and you're like I'm getting sucked up tonight.
Speaker 1: Usually those are the nights you end up like regretting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, wake up with a bad hangover,
Speaker 1: do some dumb shit exactly. But when you have no
Speaker 1: when you don't plan on getting drunk with you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of gay guys in first class and just
Speaker 1: get smacked. Yeah, oh we love each other. Now we're
Speaker 1: texting each other. We're gonna go to dinner when we
Speaker 1: all get back to Nashville. We're like friends, nice, this
Speaker 1: is awesome. How's uh, how's how's everything with the family,
Speaker 1: how's the wifey? And she's killing her podcast, going crazy rushing.
Speaker 1: We should call the dumb blonde podcast dumb blonde podcast.
Speaker 1: We should have set it up for you to do
Speaker 1: it while she was here. Yeah, she's killing it. She's
Speaker 1: she's really crushed. Man. She was actually in Vegas this
Speaker 1: whole week doing doing pods. So she just came over
Speaker 1: to LA and met me today nine. But yesterday I
Speaker 1: think she got her day before me to shop or
Speaker 1: some ship. But are you like, uh, because I know,
Speaker 1: was it about two years she's been doing it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's the pandemic kind of triggered it. And you're just
Speaker 1: kind of like you're like the unofficial like guest like
Speaker 1: guest host. Yeah, whenever, yeah, just whenever. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: The bitch is so popular now she don't need me.
Speaker 1: When she first started potting and I was like I
Speaker 1: would just fill in kind of whenever. And now I'm like,
Speaker 1: can I get on your podcast? And I need a plug.
Speaker 1: I got a record coming out, I like, got some
Speaker 1: shit going on I need to talk about. I got
Speaker 1: like pencil me in so jelly, things are going well.
Speaker 1: You got Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow. I got Jimmy Kimmel. Dad.
Speaker 1: By the time this is out, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the time this is out, he'll be on You'll
Speaker 1: be able to go on YouTube or look on some
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Uh yeah. How many plaques do we
Speaker 1: got now the last couple of years? Save me Platinum? Right,
Speaker 1: save Me's platinum, Falling the Falls gold, Creature's gold. Same
Speaker 1: asshole just got its certification. I think to be gold.
Speaker 1: I think the uh way then Willie two albums close
Speaker 1: to being gold is the whole record wow, And I
Speaker 1: think a beautiful disaster is closing in on it because
Speaker 1: we've got like two more records off a Beautiful Disaster
Speaker 1: that are closed to gold and right now you just
Speaker 1: got this trying to look like this fucking place in here, Bubba,
Speaker 1: it's happening well. For people who don't know you, let's
Speaker 1: give them a rundown. I've known you for about eight
Speaker 1: nine years, but you are like a veteran for real
Speaker 1: in this music shit. You have had many incarnations of
Speaker 1: your career. You've had to go sit down for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, get back out, but let's break down, like,
Speaker 1: how long have you been doing this shit? Like, I
Speaker 1: guess how long have you been making money off of
Speaker 1: because you started off. I mean, obviously you still do rapping,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like people are kind of being
Speaker 1: introduced to you as a country guy. Yeah, yes, you've
Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: an interesting thing happened to me just today, a guy
Speaker 1: seeing me out in Hollywood, and he was like, YO,
Speaker 1: heard your song dead Man Walking on rock radio. I
Speaker 1: became a fan. I love your stuff. I identified to
Speaker 1: him as a rock artist mm HM, which went number one, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: went number one for multiple weeks, my first number one.
Speaker 1: And then you fast forward in the airport in Nashville today.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture with a couple at six forty
Speaker 1: five this morning. Then when somebody goes back and goes,
Speaker 1: who's that, and he goes, he's a country artist, you know.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, I'm hanging out with Bootleg Keg.
Speaker 1: Who knows I'm a rapper? Right? You know? It's so funny.
Speaker 1: When we were pulling up all my guys have been
Speaker 1: with me a long time. You knew a couple of them,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I didn't tell them where
Speaker 1: we were going. I was like, yeah, we're just going
Speaker 1: to do a podcast. We pull up them like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're going to do We're going to see Bootleg Kevin.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the fucking home. He's been following
Speaker 1: me for seven years because we met each other, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was just super cool to see that. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been weird. We're kind of a format agnostic, that
Speaker 1: is true. But what was like for you, like, how
Speaker 1: many years in is this? You did it? What do
Speaker 1: you mean you did it? You see that you look
Speaker 1: at him smiling, he knows it, you did it. You remember,
Speaker 1: we're eating tacos outside of Saint Tacos. Sat Pete Floyda
Speaker 1: and Saint Pete Florida, And yeah, I was out here
Speaker 1: in l A doing the doing this, doing a shimmy
Speaker 1: shuck at the time and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And I'd had the record Sunday Morning yep, before Uncle
Speaker 1: Cracker was before Uncle Cracker was on, when it was
Speaker 1: just an acoustics trip down record, and you were like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? You was like, go all,
Speaker 1: you just like started preaching to me at this little
Speaker 1: taco bus and you were like, bet the farm on
Speaker 1: this ship, this is what you need to do, this
Speaker 1: is it, this is you were just like ringing it home.
Speaker 1: I can't remember Rich was with us that time or not,
Speaker 1: but I know we've seen Rich in the same circuit
Speaker 1: around that time. And I was like I left there
Speaker 1: thinking like, all right, fuck it, I want to just
Speaker 1: an idea. I just went all the way in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Sunday Morning record was crazy. It's still crazy. I
Speaker 1: wanted to do it so fire. I love that song.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I like the like the O G version
Speaker 1: that you would just play me. No, for sure, it
Speaker 1: was like a real it was unplugged right, It was
Speaker 1: like just literally brought it, I mean saved me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, exactly. Literally, I got something I played before
Speaker 1: we leave. I got I want to play I'm so
Speaker 1: excited about I bet. Yeah. That was like in twenty
Speaker 1: That was like twenty fourteen. That was like when you
Speaker 1: what was the name of that white dude would always
Speaker 1: book all y'all in Saint Pete Fuck keV, Big kevog cav. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just seen Big keV when we went down there
Speaker 1: and played, uh, what was the rock Fest? We played
Speaker 1: the rockyuad They're gonna hate me. Fucking forgive me, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm hungover. I'm day hungover. It's different. Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: different when you got drunk at nine am. But we
Speaker 1: played No No No that We played that one after that.
Speaker 1: But it was the Tampa Rock Station. Yeah, it's rock
Speaker 1: Fest or something whatever the name of that station was
Speaker 1: down there in Tampa. The rock station. Fucking anybody should know.
Speaker 1: You should know what's name. It's only rock station something
Speaker 1: X ninety eight X. I think yeah, X might have
Speaker 1: been X fast or something like that. That sounds about right. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: a Ryan, we kicked it. We had a ball. But anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I've just seen big Kevvy came out to
Speaker 1: see us, sir, But like I want to kind of
Speaker 1: give people like a real idea of like how long
Speaker 1: this journey has been for you, because like you were
Speaker 1: also independently very successful before you and I met, you
Speaker 1: had a following. You know what I'm saying, Like, this
Speaker 1: ship is very it feels like what it is like
Speaker 1: twenty years in Yoh, for sure. I realized how old
Speaker 1: I was listening to you and Caskie's podcast when Caski,
Speaker 1: who's a dude that's been around for a long time now,
Speaker 1: referenced me as the first dude he did a song with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I am fucking old. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's happened. I became home, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cassie's been around a long time. Yeah. Yeah, So what
Speaker 1: was like, you do you remember, like what was the
Speaker 1: first project? What was that year I came I got
Speaker 1: released from jail the last time that I had to
Speaker 1: do a bid in two thousand and nine, and I
Speaker 1: put out the ten minute freestyle which we were talking
Speaker 1: about off camera that if my po ask I hang Drywall,
Speaker 1: which we still sell those shirts on jelly Roll six
Speaker 1: one five dot com and I remember putting it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: My dude had a flipcam chat arms. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: was watching the YouTube video like two weeks ago. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't realize the power of YouTube now, mind you.
Speaker 1: I was putting out mixtapes while I was in and
Speaker 1: out of jail before that old school CD spindles. You
Speaker 1: were part of this era, like we're running around passing
Speaker 1: out five dollars like straight off the spindle, handwritten jelly roll, right.
Speaker 1: So I did that and then my introduction to the
Speaker 1: internet was about two thousand and nine and he filmed
Speaker 1: that ten minute freestyle and uploaded it and it went crazy,
Speaker 1: especially for that era because then me and Little White
Speaker 1: ended up doing Pop Another Pill because White it reached
Speaker 1: out to me right after I got out of jail,
Speaker 1: and then we did the Snow project with JUICYJ and
Speaker 1: DJ Poulin Project Pad, and we had all that history
Speaker 1: with three six Mafia at that time and all that
Speaker 1: stuff we were doing. And I remember me and Little
Speaker 1: White as shots popping another pill video of Mike Busy
Speaker 1: and Panama City Beach. This is back when World Star
Speaker 1: hip Hop was god right. We submitted it to World
Speaker 1: Star Hip Hop and I'll never forget this. They said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we only post videos that go viral. First time I
Speaker 1: heard the word viral, and we were like, well, define viral.
Speaker 1: And in the email back they said, thirty thousand views
Speaker 1: in a week on YouTube. That's it. That's how inf
Speaker 1: You still had to go to a desktop computer and
Speaker 1: type in www dot YouTube dot com. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like it was in such
Speaker 1: its infante stages that we ended up doing fifty thousand
Speaker 1: views in three days. So they put it on World
Speaker 1: Star and that was the beginning of that. That was
Speaker 1: like one of my first eraors. You know what I'm saying. Damn,
Speaker 1: I feel like post jail. If you don't count like
Speaker 1: the seven mixtapes I did, how long were you in jail?
Speaker 1: Every time was a different amount of time, from fourteen
Speaker 1: to twenty four, probably seven and a half to eight years. Shit,
Speaker 1: So just kind of in and out. Do a year,
Speaker 1: come home for six months, do a year, come home
Speaker 1: for four months, dude, drug shit, everything from you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not proud of any of it. It's
Speaker 1: public information, so well it's a good thing, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But everything from gun charges, the drugs to a robbery case.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, like what, because you know you know
Speaker 1: people like this. I know people like this that have potential,
Speaker 1: that are talented, but for whatever reason, they just get
Speaker 1: stuck in that back into jail. It the revolving door
Speaker 1: of the judicial system. Like what was the breaking point
Speaker 1: for you where you were like, Nah, this is enough,
Speaker 1: I gotta get my shit on track. It's so cool
Speaker 1: talking to you because we know each other so personally,
Speaker 1: you know. But it was my daughter Bailey was born
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, so one of those times
Speaker 1: where I was out of jail, I had gotten a
Speaker 1: young woman pregnant, okay, and then Bailey was born while
Speaker 1: I was in jail. And then the old Southern Baptist
Speaker 1: term that was my Damascus Road experience where Saul turned
Speaker 1: to Paul. I'll never forget. I was in like the
Speaker 1: gang unit, like the like worst dorm you could be
Speaker 1: in in jail at the time because I was just
Speaker 1: running the poker table and gambling and not you know,
Speaker 1: I was just fucking doing time. And the day they
Speaker 1: knocked on my door and told me Bailey was born,
Speaker 1: I signed up to go to the education unit try
Speaker 1: to get my ged I don't know what, just like
Speaker 1: I scrambled out of nowhere. I was just like, I
Speaker 1: got to figure this shit out right now. And I
Speaker 1: ended up having to do like another year. But whenever
Speaker 1: I came home, you know, that was it. We started
Speaker 1: off to the races. Yo. Uh you're like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like the Rock taps in with a lot
Speaker 1: of artists that I happened to know, but he really
Speaker 1: fucks with you. It's my dude, Rock has been fucking
Speaker 1: with you like for like five six years now. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: like he posts your ship all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1: He is just he's a Nashville dude at heart. Low key.
Speaker 1: He's like he traveled so much as a child that
Speaker 1: he has a lot of places he's really connected with,
Speaker 1: and by luck of the Beast, Nashville is one of them.
Speaker 1: So he really kind of connects to our scene and culture.
Speaker 1: Like he gets guys like me. And he told me early,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I know guys like you from Nashville.
Speaker 1: So man, you had this talk early, like Nashville was
Speaker 1: kind of famous for that white boy trap rap shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like yourself was Haystack from for sure, Nashville boy,
Speaker 1: he was ahead of us. Haystack kind of led the
Speaker 1: charge on that, and there was so many you know,
Speaker 1: we had a band before Haystack called rud Awaken and
Speaker 1: Chris Taylor, which is like an uncle or cousin of ours,
Speaker 1: me and my brother, and it's like little whites from Nashville,
Speaker 1: little whites from Memphis, down the street Tennessee. It's all
Speaker 1: that kind of you know. So he was like, I
Speaker 1: get the culture of the city. He was like, people
Speaker 1: won't get it at first, but trust me, it'll it'll work, yeah,
Speaker 1: because there was like this like Nashville white boy, dope
Speaker 1: boy shit going on that I like you said, it
Speaker 1: was very like you had to be from there to
Speaker 1: really understand like what kind of dude you were at
Speaker 1: the time, for sure, which is why we popped in Florida,
Speaker 1: because Florida and so many white boys like that. So
Speaker 1: it's like when you went to Saint Pete, you were
Speaker 1: just like it was a town full of them, you know,
Speaker 1: for Largo and all that stuff. The old gasoline alley
Speaker 1: bar we played down there back in the day. The
Speaker 1: thug crackers, crackers, you know what I'm saying. You remember this.
Speaker 1: So it was like CASKI. There was so many kids
Speaker 1: that was that that culture came to, like Florida and Georgia,
Speaker 1: the South, especially just immediately in the midwest Indiana. Ohio, dude,
Speaker 1: it was like first market ever for us. It's like
Speaker 1: second home for me. Still. Ohio is like a it's
Speaker 1: a weird place, man, because because it's like in the
Speaker 1: middle of the country, it's like not quite like the South,
Speaker 1: but it feels very like it kind of feels like
Speaker 1: a country place sort of. Yeah. Well, you know it
Speaker 1: is when you you go thirty miles outside of any
Speaker 1: of the major metropolis and Ohio and you might as
Speaker 1: well be in Mississippi. It's that fast. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and then you blink your eye and you're
Speaker 1: in fucking South Mississippi. That's crazy. You're like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck just happened. It's insane, But it's brand it's own
Speaker 1: culture up there in Sound too. Yeah, for sure. Ohio.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Doobie, shout out to Immediate Him and
Speaker 1: Highlight have pioneered an entire culture out of Columbia. I
Speaker 1: met Doobie for the first time when he was running
Speaker 1: around on the road with you. Yeah, in St. Pete, Florida.
Speaker 1: That's another thing that came up in an interview of yours,
Speaker 1: where I was like, I'm fucking old. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know you ain't that old. God if you fucking make
Speaker 1: me feel it when you interview these young dudes, you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: I met you ten years ago with Jelly, I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm old. Well, you know what's great is you're now
Speaker 1: making country music. Which country and rock music. I feel
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter how old you are, it's definitely timeless.
Speaker 1: I swear rap music. I feel like, you know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna always have a niche audience. But hip hop is
Speaker 1: all about well, what's new, What's next? You know? I
Speaker 1: was telling somebody what I'm anxious to see is the
Speaker 1: I watched the Mount Westmore Tour come to Nashville and
Speaker 1: sell out the Bridgetone Arena thirteen thousand, seven hundred tickets yep.
Speaker 1: And then I watched the Legends of the Street tour
Speaker 1: come to Nashville, Jeezy coucy Tz sell out, Boozy sell
Speaker 1: out thirteen thousand, seven hundred tickets. It's the first time
Speaker 1: in life that we're seeing hip hop translate generationally right,
Speaker 1: and like oldiest hip hop for sure, because like back
Speaker 1: in the day, that's what they say. This will never
Speaker 1: make it to arenas. Nobody will care to see this
Speaker 1: show in twenty years, and people are seeing it. I
Speaker 1: want to see in twenty years from now, if Little
Speaker 1: Dirk and Little Baby and the Baby can go sell
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand tickets in every America, Right, it's going to
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Dude. It's like a stud into
Speaker 1: the game because hip hop is so young when you
Speaker 1: think about it, not even from the kids doing it,
Speaker 1: Like just to think that Ice Cuban them was our
Speaker 1: first reference point of watching hip hop grow with people
Speaker 1: to the point that I just watch thirteen thousand white kids.
Speaker 1: It's like we in their fucking forties. Those guys are
Speaker 1: like are they're the first generation of hip hop guys
Speaker 1: to be fifty? Yeah you know what I mean. It's crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it until I was there and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is nuts. Yeah, Like, dude, I
Speaker 1: was born when Nwa was getting active. I was born
Speaker 1: in eighty seven, yeah for sure, so a little bit before.
Speaker 1: But I was born a little bit before, a little bit,
Speaker 1: just a little bit much, not much an hair. What's
Speaker 1: been like, you know, since you've kind of been on
Speaker 1: this run in the last couple of years, what has
Speaker 1: been the coolest thing that you've got to experience? Because
Speaker 1: you've showed out some big shows you've been a part of,
Speaker 1: like some crazy you've just been I mean you're about
Speaker 1: to do Jimmy Kimel tomorrow, you know, Like, what's been
Speaker 1: some something that's where you just kind of had to
Speaker 1: pinch yourself one of those moments we're like, damn, this
Speaker 1: is pretty fucking cool. Uh. The first time that when
Speaker 1: we got invited to the Grand Old was just the
Speaker 1: history of the Grand Old Opry. And I'm letting somebody
Speaker 1: that represents our community and our kind and our culture,
Speaker 1: you know, because like, regardless of how much I messed
Speaker 1: the music together, I'm a hip hop kid and I
Speaker 1: always will be. I'm a student of the game. I
Speaker 1: love hip hop and I was the first rapper to
Speaker 1: play the Grand Old Opry even though I sung it's
Speaker 1: like still there's a thing there, the first local rapper
Speaker 1: because Nashal's had a lot of big talent come out
Speaker 1: to sell out the Rhymen Court. For me, yeah, we
Speaker 1: are like thirty five no bullshit tickets away from selling
Speaker 1: out Red Rocks in October. So that's a that's Denver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta come out October twenty third. It's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 1: You're headlining, that's gonna be crazy. It almost sold out
Speaker 1: and we're playing. You know, we're headlining my arena in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Did you've seen this? Put You've seen it? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, So we're gonna headline. That's another one that
Speaker 1: was they're all wild moments. Yeah, I saw that big
Speaker 1: show you did last year in Dallas and crazy insane. No,
Speaker 1: for sure. We just sold seven thousand tickets at a
Speaker 1: hockey arena sold out in Kalamazoo the day of the
Speaker 1: on sale being Struggles just played it the other day.
Speaker 1: It was fucking nuts. I just did twenty thousand people
Speaker 1: at tailgates and Tall Boys co headlining with Riley just
Speaker 1: every everything about it's just like, what in the fuck
Speaker 1: is happening? What are the things that you're noticing being
Speaker 1: in the country industry now? Because it is You've lived
Speaker 1: in Nashville, so I'm sure it's not. It's never been
Speaker 1: too far away, but it's a different game. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like country is one of the I know people
Speaker 1: who do country radio and they get treated like fucking
Speaker 1: royalty by the artists and by by like the labels.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, you know, people still buy CDs. People
Speaker 1: don't realize country is still the only CD is getting
Speaker 1: sold at Walmart a country CDs. What I love about
Speaker 1: country music is is it's very tribal. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who find music through country radio and through
Speaker 1: the just country music. It's like there's still a country
Speaker 1: music fan that exists. It's like just a fan of
Speaker 1: country music. So if they know that you do country music,
Speaker 1: you're gonna at least get a chance or give you
Speaker 1: a chance. They're like, oh fuck, I love country music.
Speaker 1: You make country music. Play me something where it's like
Speaker 1: in hip hop, it's like everybody raps. This is true, everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody raps. Trust me. I just left an Empire Brunch
Speaker 1: shout out to Empire bro. I couldn't walk two feet
Speaker 1: with someone stopping me and just no, for sure, it's
Speaker 1: just like I get on the pod, hey yo, what's
Speaker 1: up yo yo? And you're just like, no, it's a
Speaker 1: lot everybody raps. So it's like when you tell it dude,
Speaker 1: Hey man, I rap, let me play you something. Instead
Speaker 1: of them being like I'd like to listen to go
Speaker 1: I rap too, and you're just like there that went.
Speaker 1: You know. But you don't meet a lot of country
Speaker 1: artists Nashville. You throw a rock and hit one, but
Speaker 1: it's like there's a core country music fan. And I've
Speaker 1: always been a country music fan just because you grow
Speaker 1: up in Nashville. You can't help but to be there's
Speaker 1: no way that yeah, I mean country. I feel like
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big hip hop dude, but like, just
Speaker 1: like with any genre of music, I like, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know. Highlights said it to
Speaker 1: me best when this shit started working for me. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm watching you finally do what I watched you do
Speaker 1: in the car for ten years. He's like, and it's
Speaker 1: so gratifying because we would get in the car and
Speaker 1: go on these long road trips and I would just
Speaker 1: torture them with George Strait records and Billy Currington songs
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Blair, like I'm doing sound check singing
Speaker 1: Darius Rucker every day, you know. And the Highlight was like,
Speaker 1: it's so cool, like everybody who really knows what kind
Speaker 1: of music I listened to. Thought it was super dope
Speaker 1: to finally see me, you know, like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: like you know, you doing what we see you do
Speaker 1: in the car anyways, Like we watch you smoke weed
Speaker 1: and sing Alan Jackson, So this is cool. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna get into some fucking movies or something? Man, I
Speaker 1: just talked to a guy. I got something of them
Speaker 1: a sleeve dude, or like TV or you should host
Speaker 1: a fucking I don't know. I just feel like you
Speaker 1: just gotta be on the on the screen. I feel
Speaker 1: like it did. I feel like this handsome face deserves
Speaker 1: a chance. No. I think we're gonna do something. I
Speaker 1: gotta you know. I'm really inspired by what MGK is
Speaker 1: doing right now. Oh yeah, he did his own movie.
Speaker 1: He's just doing his own movies. They're fucking INCREDIB for sure.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my what a genius, great guy. Man
Speaker 1: plug us in if you can. I'm surprised you never
Speaker 1: met her. You know what's crazy. I know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: I talked to MGK the other day and I was like,
Speaker 1: I I should have asked him now, I should be like, yo,
Speaker 1: just throw me in a mid in the text, just randomly.
Speaker 1: I just love to reach out. I just I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan of his spirit and his music, his writing ability,
Speaker 1: you know, just the way he's a great creative. It's
Speaker 1: a great creative man. That's another thing, like think about
Speaker 1: the rock shit. It's crazy like all these artists like
Speaker 1: MGK obviously very incredible rapper. God damn, he's a fucking
Speaker 1: dingle blown arena tour right now. It's wild. Man. He's
Speaker 1: he's on the phone drunk, facetiming the other night and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, he was talking about my
Speaker 1: daughter had got me a little billboard for Father's Day,
Speaker 1: which was so cool. Oh I saw that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the sweetest thing ever. And it's just a dad
Speaker 1: and him that identified that, you know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's like, you, motherfucker, how you get up with a billboard.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got a fucking helicopter in an arena
Speaker 1: every night that carries you across fourteen thousand people. Fuck
Speaker 1: my billboard. So you're tripping. That dude is on top
Speaker 1: of the world right now, you know. And he's still
Speaker 1: the same kid from Cleveland that we all talked to
Speaker 1: when he was you know, doing what was a thousand
Speaker 1: words and running or whatever. He's still the same kid
Speaker 1: pushing the Lace Up mixtape when you talk to him.
Speaker 1: How diverse is like? Cause, like when you have a
Speaker 1: show now and you're selling thirteen thousand tickets or seven
Speaker 1: thousand tickets here right, Like how much of the crowd
Speaker 1: is like og Jelly fans and how much just found
Speaker 1: you recently? It's a good split. You know. The cool
Speaker 1: thing about catalogs are and I always hear Russ talk
Speaker 1: about this and I understand it now, is that you
Speaker 1: can only build a true core base with a catalog. Right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes guys will have songs that will get really hot
Speaker 1: and the song will blow up, there's no catalog to
Speaker 1: back it. So you have people that want to be
Speaker 1: a fan of you, but they don't have enough catalog
Speaker 1: to be a fan of yours. Got you, you know,
Speaker 1: because like they might go to the one song and
Speaker 1: be like, I like this, but what else is there?
Speaker 1: And the dudes got two EPs out right, you know
Speaker 1: where It's like guys like myself have Yeah, if someone
Speaker 1: if someone hears your song on the radio and they
Speaker 1: go to your Spotify page, they might just dive into
Speaker 1: you just get God Willing, you get lost in the
Speaker 1: jelly row rabbit hole. Yeah, just give me a chance,
Speaker 1: give me a three song chance. And if I can
Speaker 1: get you with those three I think I can suck
Speaker 1: you in them. I've played save Me for hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's my of my favorite songs for sure.
Speaker 1: It's like I told you what I first. I was like, brother, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a It's like one of those records
Speaker 1: that I can listen to it. I don't listen like
Speaker 1: I don't ride around bumping your own ship. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: not if I'm in the car and the perfect man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let's let that motherfucker ring like that
Speaker 1: you know that slaps? Are you guys gonna rework it?
Speaker 1: We got a plan. I have a vision. I had
Speaker 1: a dream, and like a real dream to put like
Speaker 1: God Willing. I just want to put like a dell
Speaker 1: on it. And I'm just speaking that into existence and
Speaker 1: it sounds really wild. But could you imagine Adele coming
Speaker 1: in with what the nuts got? Was me saying that mom,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking Adele. It's like somebody who feels that
Speaker 1: kind of pain. Yeah, because I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: record that like, obviously it's been out a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but if you worked it to radio now or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: being a layup. I know this sounds weird, but for me,
Speaker 1: music helps people. Yeah, right? Is that my people? Yes? Definitely?
Speaker 1: It didn't pick up Boston. Yeah, you're good too good?
Speaker 1: The mic sift super okay cool. I'm like, only my
Speaker 1: people would come in and start shooting dice in there
Speaker 1: or something like that, like this is our moment. I
Speaker 1: want to play Soilo. To me, it's like music helps people,
Speaker 1: and it's not even about the monetary value of the song.
Speaker 1: For me, it's about how can I get it in
Speaker 1: front of more people? Because I know how many people
Speaker 1: it's helped, you know what I mean. I know how
Speaker 1: many people have came to me through addictions, struggles, losing
Speaker 1: family members, mental health, just drunk nights of sadness that
Speaker 1: are like save Me was the song for me. It's like,
Speaker 1: how can you get a song that helps so many
Speaker 1: people in front of more people? It's kind of my goal.
Speaker 1: So it's like I want to do whatever I can
Speaker 1: to get in front of the world, and a lot
Speaker 1: of your music has those kind of messages. I guess
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not like I mean,
Speaker 1: your music is very personal to you. Yeah, it's very cathartic.
Speaker 1: It's therapeutics. I always wanted to make music with a
Speaker 1: I'm very intentional in my songwriting. Now that you're popping
Speaker 1: on is like the label trying to put you in
Speaker 1: with writers? Are you just straight handling everything obviously, or
Speaker 1: on the other side, you're in Nashville, now you're kind
Speaker 1: of known as a guy. Now are you helping other
Speaker 1: people with writing? I'm doing some of that. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: doing some of that. And and the cool thing is
Speaker 1: as a fan of writers like Kel's and mod getting
Speaker 1: in a room together, I have got in a room
Speaker 1: with some people that I wanted to get in a
Speaker 1: room of course, you know that. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I love the way this collaborates. Yeah, Like I would
Speaker 1: be honored to write a song with that dude. So
Speaker 1: hip hop has trained us to be like in your
Speaker 1: own little bubble, write your own shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's like where every other genre is
Speaker 1: way more open to being like it's not even about
Speaker 1: somebody else helping write your lyrics. It's about sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: go help another dude, write right, and just me being
Speaker 1: in their helps whenever he's just like am I tripping?
Speaker 1: Or is this fucking dope? And just me being like
Speaker 1: that's dope. Sometimes yeah, Sometimes it's like if you're in
Speaker 1: there with someone you respect and they give you some
Speaker 1: affirmation that you period. Yeah, or sometimes I just put
Speaker 1: people back on the right path. Like you'll have a
Speaker 1: dude noodling and catch something and then get away. You
Speaker 1: know how you knew you've been in a studio some
Speaker 1: dudes is in her humming and noodling and he cat
Speaker 1: When you said noodling, I'm thinking jumping into a lake
Speaker 1: and catching cat. Yo. We can go with Hannah Baron
Speaker 1: any day you want to go. She invited me and
Speaker 1: the wife out. Have you seen Hannah Baron? No, but
Speaker 1: I've seen people noodle on YouTube. Dude, have you ever
Speaker 1: hear the wife? Yes? Fuck yeah, explain absolutely minutes. So
Speaker 1: what is this noodling thing? Oh, it's real. So catfish
Speaker 1: are and I'm gonna butcher it, Hannah, don't judgement, but
Speaker 1: catfish normally are in like holes, right, shallower holes, and
Speaker 1: what you do is you kind of fish into the
Speaker 1: hole and the catfish by instinct will bite and then
Speaker 1: you pull the catfish out but bite your hand. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: does it hurt? Well, I mean it's not. It's not comfortable,
Speaker 1: but it's not like you know, it's not a bear
Speaker 1: coodl right, it's like but yeah, So if you look
Speaker 1: at people that get big fucking fish, they'll have scars
Speaker 1: on their arms and it. So you've actually done this.
Speaker 1: I've actually reached one out of the water. You've you've
Speaker 1: caught a catfish with your bare hands, bare hands, brought
Speaker 1: it out and felt like fucking thor held it up
Speaker 1: over my head like hear ye, hear ye, people of Whoville,
Speaker 1: I'm the fucking dude. Do I have to bash it
Speaker 1: in the head to kill it? No? No, it's just
Speaker 1: like any other fish. You hold it out of water
Speaker 1: long enough, give it a slow torture it. We're putting
Speaker 1: out of your misery. And now Peter cancels me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so do you cook the fish? Yeah? I love catfish?
Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh, it's I don't not that I'm weird
Speaker 1: about stuff, but I would if I'm either playing catch
Speaker 1: and release or I'm trying something nice, and that's my role,
Speaker 1: and catfish is one of my favorite things to eat,
Speaker 1: so noodling. I've watched a lot of that on YouTube.
Speaker 1: What was the name of that one redneck kid who
Speaker 1: was rolling around yellow for a while, Cambo Camo. I
Speaker 1: used to love seeing his Instagram page because he would
Speaker 1: have the most as well. He had like a pet
Speaker 1: possum running around on his shoulder. And you gotta follow
Speaker 1: Hannah bar and I'm gonna send her your page now.
Speaker 1: It is Cambo on steroids. She's catching airl from like
Speaker 1: South Alabama that pulls out catfish the size of you.
Speaker 1: She's like fucking five to like one ten. She's pulling
Speaker 1: out fists that are bigger than her. It's fucking wild.
Speaker 1: They're good money in that, you think I do? I
Speaker 1: know her YouTube channel crushes. I mean that's that's there's
Speaker 1: great money. Yeah, I've been getting stuck in. I've been
Speaker 1: watching van life YouTube videos. Oh I can't get off
Speaker 1: of that. That and puppies for all my TikTok is
Speaker 1: van life and tiny homes. Yeah. I hadn't gotten into
Speaker 1: the tiny homes, but the van life ship will warp me.
Speaker 1: The Van Life shit. It makes me like sometimes fantasize
Speaker 1: about having no kids and being single, right, Oh, watch
Speaker 1: out and just being on an island. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: live in my van, save up all this money pissing
Speaker 1: the park. Oh, you're in a slippery slog, my friend.
Speaker 1: You should somebody should reel you away from this fast.
Speaker 1: That's where it starts going south. He starts selling mushrooms
Speaker 1: and me and my wife like, we'll go to the
Speaker 1: dollar store sometimes and I'll just be looking at like
Speaker 1: the groceries. I'd be like, man, I tell my wife.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if I was single, I fuck that
Speaker 1: blooney up for a dollar? Do you want to be single?
Speaker 1: I'm like no. I was just thinking in my head
Speaker 1: if I was like single with the one bedroom apartment,
Speaker 1: like this is where i'd be at if I was
Speaker 1: in the van that I really want to be in
Speaker 1: the sides with you, that boney with a bucket, with
Speaker 1: a bucket to shit in. What you say, puppies and
Speaker 1: you and van puppies. I just love, I don't know,
Speaker 1: make me happy. What about TV? What are you streaming
Speaker 1: lately on TV? Oh, dude, I've been in the middle
Speaker 1: of all kind of good ship. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: offer yet? I've heard about it. The Godfather it's some paramount.
Speaker 1: It's fucking I couldn't quit watching it. I watched The
Speaker 1: Lincoln Lawyer. Have you seen the Boys? Uh uh? Amazon's Fire.
Speaker 1: I watch it though, you know what, I just caught
Speaker 1: up on and I know I'm late to the party.
Speaker 1: And I heard it's an unpopular show out this way,
Speaker 1: but winning time. Oh, I heard it's great. It was fire.
Speaker 1: People love it. It was what about you're like Yellowstone?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yellow Stones? Great to get it sucked me
Speaker 1: in the Yellowstone. What's the best you gotta get? Like
Speaker 1: a fucking cameo? I know, I just want to be
Speaker 1: like one of the yeah or the bunk house or
Speaker 1: a bar. To go to the bar and there's just
Speaker 1: some dude that's it. Whoops, everybody, He's unfucking defeated Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. At first, I was against it. I was
Speaker 1: protesting it silently because I felt like it was too
Speaker 1: dialogue driven. And my wife's like, trust me to love it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need to get into a
Speaker 1: show that's like just a bunch of talking. And then
Speaker 1: half the episode in I was like fucking up for
Speaker 1: a day. I didn't do any I canceled sessions. I
Speaker 1: watched every season I could catch up on like three days.
Speaker 1: That shit actually had me like looking up flights to
Speaker 1: go to Houston Rodeo. You should come to the Frontier
Speaker 1: Days in Wyoming. I'm playing a rodeo. Me Co Wetzel
Speaker 1: and Nelly are playing one night, Shyanne. Frontier Days is
Speaker 1: like a really really big deal. It's like one of
Speaker 1: the biggest rodeos on earth, like one of the oldest
Speaker 1: ones ever. Wow. Yes, okay, Wyoming. Yeah, he's got his
Speaker 1: ranch out. Come on, dude, have you heard you can
Speaker 1: still make Chyenne Baby? It's an old old dors train
Speaker 1: z home. Talk about just like in your opinion, man,
Speaker 1: when you have a level of success that you're kind
Speaker 1: of experiencing, does it feel like it or because sometimes
Speaker 1: we don't realize that we're living in the moment we're
Speaker 1: living in until it's like two or three years later,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, damn, like, are you enjoying the moment?
Speaker 1: Are you like really like appreciating just everything going on
Speaker 1: right now? Oh, more than I've ever appreciated anything. I
Speaker 1: am so conscious of where I am in my life.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. The other day when we
Speaker 1: had those three string of shows. We had three shows
Speaker 1: in a row. They're all just like killer shows. I
Speaker 1: literally just handed my phone to my dude on the
Speaker 1: beginning of the weekend and said, hey, man, just hand
Speaker 1: it to me, and my wife calls Wow. I didn't
Speaker 1: touch my phone for seventy two hours less. He was
Speaker 1: bringing it to me, going, your wife's on the phone
Speaker 1: and your daughter's on the phone. That's fire. I just
Speaker 1: want to be there, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: I want to be in every moment I can. I
Speaker 1: want to feel everything. I want to talk to everybody
Speaker 1: at this arena. I want to have every conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: I walk the building. I have a thing where I
Speaker 1: walk the whole building before the show. I walk it
Speaker 1: after the show, you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: just want to know. I want to feel how it
Speaker 1: feels before and after. Because one, it's wild. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think when we start selling those that amount
Speaker 1: of tickets, that those capacities. When you've been doing like this,
Speaker 1: you've been on the fucking road. Oh yeah, doing any
Speaker 1: size venue you can think of. Oh for sure, me
Speaker 1: take that in man, me Doobie before Doobie, even me
Speaker 1: and highlight and God rest is soul. Big Mic literally
Speaker 1: lived in a van with Scary Larry and Casey in
Speaker 1: a band, a van like a ninety six. You've seen
Speaker 1: that van. Yeah, you've seen the old white van. We
Speaker 1: call it Bertha. For five years on the run, two
Speaker 1: hundred some days a year. When I met my wife,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a house. Wow. I met my wife
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and I did not have
Speaker 1: an apartment. I was living in the van. I was
Speaker 1: home so little that when I was home I would
Speaker 1: say I would crash couches and fucking drive to the
Speaker 1: next city a couple of days early and crash in
Speaker 1: the van, or get hotels like I didn't even there
Speaker 1: was no point in even having a you know, we
Speaker 1: did that for so long. Two hundred cap rooms, three
Speaker 1: hundred cap rooms, thousand cap rooms, four hundred cap rooms,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty cap rooms. I've opened up for
Speaker 1: metal bands. I've opened up for ICP multiple times, twisted
Speaker 1: multiple times. The grind of this ship, God, I'm glad
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. The grind of this ship is
Speaker 1: what people miss the most, right is the years and
Speaker 1: you do me and you talk about it all the
Speaker 1: time privately. How proud I am of you that, Like
Speaker 1: we were the same two dudes in Tampa that were
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And the next thing I know,
Speaker 1: you're fucking in La right, You're fucking meet the love
Speaker 1: of your life. You're fucking fucking running the ranks up again,
Speaker 1: your fucking biggest market in America. You're figuring the shit out.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's our dude. Like that's how we've always
Speaker 1: identified you, Like that's our fucking guy. That's our dude,
Speaker 1: that's figuring that shit out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like when a country does a security for Juicy
Speaker 1: and when we pull up here, it's like a bootleg
Speaker 1: cab bootlet kid. Yeah, Juicy Love Bootleg Cat. I'm like,
Speaker 1: everybody fucking you know, everybody's on this podcast. I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been harassing keV to get on this podcast, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where they don't the grinds of years and years and
Speaker 1: years of eating shit sandwiches to finally get a fucking
Speaker 1: Philly cheese steak. What do you think it was for you?
Speaker 1: Because you obviously got new management. But I feel like
Speaker 1: you've done something that is very hard to do. And
Speaker 1: when you come up on the underground tip like you do,
Speaker 1: and you gain a lot of fan bases from a
Speaker 1: lot of different artists. Like you said, you open up
Speaker 1: for ICP, Twisted all that. You obviously heavily affiliated with
Speaker 1: Strange Music. They distributed at least one of your projects
Speaker 1: distributed to Travis. You went on a whole tour attack.
Speaker 1: I went out with Yellow Wolf twice. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: you have all kind of all these fans, and you
Speaker 1: know they come from all different walks of life, but
Speaker 1: there is like a stigma that comes with a lot
Speaker 1: of those fan bases. And even when we think of
Speaker 1: the white rapper thing, right, it feels like the the
Speaker 1: underground white rapper thing. It's like a hard mold to
Speaker 1: get out of and I feel like you've busted through it,
Speaker 1: just like you're just jelly rolling. And I focused on
Speaker 1: making music that was real, not music that was cool,
Speaker 1: because there was moments like when I'm playing you Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: you get it, But it wasn't cool. It was the
Speaker 1: opposite and it was working. Yeah. It also it wasn't
Speaker 1: what you're known for. What you were putting out at all.
Speaker 1: It's like I just focused on the music that felt real,
Speaker 1: Like to this day, it's like I know that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not going to connect with some of the people
Speaker 1: because it's not trendy, it's not cool, it's just not
Speaker 1: the texture of sound they're looking for. But strip it down,
Speaker 1: it's real. It might not be real to you, and
Speaker 1: it might not be what you're looking for, but this
Speaker 1: is I feel authentic in everything I do. I'm not
Speaker 1: chasing cool, I'm not overthinking visuals. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: package something in a way that's just like, I'm just
Speaker 1: putting out music that feels right to where I'm at
Speaker 1: in that moment of my life. Dude, I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about my age all day, but I'm
Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old man. I'm on the verge
Speaker 1: of being thirty eight. I have a fourteen year old
Speaker 1: daughter that'll be fifteen and six months the fucking high
Speaker 1: schooler crazy like six Inevitably, I was going to start
Speaker 1: making a different kind of music, right the same fucking guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not even close. So it's like I just whatever
Speaker 1: felt real to where I am in my life at
Speaker 1: that moment and to the people, I know who I'm
Speaker 1: writing songs for. I'm still writing songs for my mother,
Speaker 1: Wow right. I'm still writing songs for that woman who's
Speaker 1: struggling with addiction, struggling financially, fucking pain in her eyes,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to take care of her kids.
Speaker 1: I'm still writing songs for that woman. And I'm still
Speaker 1: writing songs for that dude in that trailer park or
Speaker 1: that apartment or that fucking rundown house or middle class
Speaker 1: neighborhood that's busting his ass and working his ass off
Speaker 1: and trying to figure life out. I'm still writing songs
Speaker 1: for that dude that's fucking selling weed on the side
Speaker 1: because his job's not paying enough to take care of
Speaker 1: his family. I'm still writing songs for that dude on
Speaker 1: that back road in that little country fucking town and
Speaker 1: that pickup truck that he busted his ass to get
Speaker 1: that smokes a joint every day the moment he gets
Speaker 1: off work. I know who the fuck I'm writing songs for, right.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to write a song for
Speaker 1: fucking the kids that went to Rolling Loud this year.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying and I'm very honest about that.
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, it's fair, of course not. Yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: like knowing that was my my busting point. I tell
Speaker 1: people all the time, you can't. I'll see a Jelly
Speaker 1: Roll fan before he sees me every time, and I'm
Speaker 1: fucking fat with tattoos on my face. I stand the
Speaker 1: fuck out, and I'll still watch that guy walk into
Speaker 1: a grocery store and go, that's my guy. For sure,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. I'll catch that guy in a minute.
Speaker 1: I'll tell my wife that's why, that's our guy right there.
Speaker 1: Two hours later. Holy fuck, Jelly dude, I fucking love
Speaker 1: your shit. I'm like, thanks, man, I knew it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And every now and then I walk by dude that
Speaker 1: I thinks my guy and he's not, and I'll introduce myself.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I know this sounds weird, dude, but dude,
Speaker 1: I just feel like I fucking speak for you. I
Speaker 1: know I don't know you from the mom I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to stereotype you in here, Hosse, but fucking I
Speaker 1: make fucking kind of rock and roll, fucking southern rap,
Speaker 1: country music and scent, and I just think you fuck
Speaker 1: with it. That's so crazy. Hey, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: piss break because I'm about to piss on Myselfhe yes,
Speaker 1: Can I get a water in the piss break? Or
Speaker 1: is this a waterless facility? We're gonna go get you
Speaker 1: a water, yo, I'll get you. Uh. It's crazy how
Speaker 1: they did the media base and the platinum record of one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll put it right here, Sin it's on camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get you one of those for uh oh yeah,
Speaker 1: for fucking dead Man walking, because we got the radio
Speaker 1: thing for it too. I just got we crack. We
Speaker 1: cracked the top twenty five this week on Country Wow
Speaker 1: twenty four as of today moved two slots again. Are
Speaker 1: you finding that country is a little harder. It's way harder,
Speaker 1: charts a lot harder. It's fucking It's harder than any
Speaker 1: other genre on Earth. It's also got the biggest audience
Speaker 1: besides pop back as I say, but your reach is
Speaker 1: way more and pop has only got a bigger audience
Speaker 1: by like it's closed, cav I can imagine. It's kind
Speaker 1: of blew my mind to be if you think about
Speaker 1: like how big the middle of the country is compared
Speaker 1: to the metropolis parts. It's like, right, most of this
Speaker 1: is for sure. I had perspective. The other day. We
Speaker 1: were leaving Nashville and I was driving the Tailgates and
Speaker 1: Tall Boys the first vessel, and it was like two hours,
Speaker 1: like I think I was two and a half hours
Speaker 1: outside of Nashville and I was still picking up the
Speaker 1: Nashville Country radio station. Wow. Like literally I was in
Speaker 1: Kentucky and I was clearly picking up one O three
Speaker 1: to three Yo. What happened. One of my favorite things
Speaker 1: that happened during the pandemic was you and Andrew Schulch song. Dude.
Speaker 1: It was so funny, the video was so good. It
Speaker 1: was my favorite thing that happened. Fucking covid anthem. It
Speaker 1: was the covid anthem. Dude. I tell people me and
Speaker 1: Andrew Shouls are responsible for the country opening back up.
Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody's that. It was so it
Speaker 1: was so and you know what, his whole team is
Speaker 1: just fucking awesome. You talk about a dude who gets it.
Speaker 1: He's if rappers would take one twentieth of his approach
Speaker 1: to the business. He's kind of doing the rust thing
Speaker 1: very just do it yourself side, put it out as
Speaker 1: much as you can. Overload the content constantly drops, But
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about what he does is how he
Speaker 1: presents it. He's not afraid to spend the dollar for
Speaker 1: the good look. This is inside baseball. But when I
Speaker 1: watch him played la here, right, he rints the old
Speaker 1: six four. Yep, he shoots the footage of him pulling
Speaker 1: up to the theater with it bouncing little things that
Speaker 1: are just like you thought about. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: when we came down here to do the Kimmel thing
Speaker 1: and they sent us over the production stuff, my first
Speaker 1: question was, cool, can I build a set? Right? You know?
Speaker 1: It's like I know they're not paying, and I know
Speaker 1: that at that point I've got to pay to build
Speaker 1: the set and break the set down. But it's like,
Speaker 1: can I build a set? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that what we do. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: that's that's a look that you might get once in
Speaker 1: your lifetime ever. I mean hopefully it's one of many
Speaker 1: of those looks, but you just never know, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know that's going to reach millions
Speaker 1: of people, like Teddy Swims and Megan Train are just
Speaker 1: built a garden on Kimmel or I just saw it Swims.
Speaker 1: I love Teddy Swims so much, and he's it was
Speaker 1: so good to just like to see him, like go
Speaker 1: from just do an amazing did you go to to
Speaker 1: get this? It's next door? Oh dude, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I would have never asked you to go buy me
Speaker 1: a water. And Teddy Swims got so talented. He's also
Speaker 1: just like us, covering all kinds of l R and
Speaker 1: B shit like Mario, let me love you And I
Speaker 1: don't care how much of a singer I think I am.
Speaker 1: I hear him singing I want to quit. Do you
Speaker 1: guys link up at all? Oh? Yeah, we talked in
Speaker 1: Nashville all the time. We went and got drunk at
Speaker 1: the Rhyme a few weeks ago. He's a Nashville guy. Yep,
Speaker 1: he lives there now now she's a Georgia kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nashville's like, uh, if you're in for people who don't
Speaker 1: know obviously music city, but like if you're in the
Speaker 1: country music industry, like you have to be there almost
Speaker 1: you have to. You can't make it anywhere else if
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the pop country scene. Now,
Speaker 1: Texas has its own country scene in general, just like
Speaker 1: it had its own rap scene. It's no different. Texas
Speaker 1: is like that for all music. But yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of but even the Texas
Speaker 1: people got to move to Nashville, right if they want
Speaker 1: to go big, Yeah, they want to go bigger than Texas.
Speaker 1: When did you help Andrew write his portion of that record? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it was a collaborative, right, but souls, she's very clever,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure he like, I'm sure he hasne
Speaker 1: He had all the line. We just had to keep
Speaker 1: them in rhythm. The best part was when he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I want to sing it. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: That's not what I seen coming. You know you got
Speaker 1: shot that video of Florida, right, Yeah, we went down
Speaker 1: to Florida when they were doing this flagrant in Miami thing.
Speaker 1: Oh we had a blast. When I got pissed drunk,
Speaker 1: we had a fucking ball. Dude, you obviously I see
Speaker 1: you pop up on a lot of podcasts, like a
Speaker 1: shout out to theovonn shot out to Brandon Shop and
Speaker 1: those guys. Would you ever have your own podcast? Is
Speaker 1: that something that you even think you have time to
Speaker 1: even dabble in? I've been talking to a company about it,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to I love podcasting. One, I just
Speaker 1: love the idea of conversation, but two, I just love
Speaker 1: the idea of just being goofy. So I love doing
Speaker 1: like THEO and Shop and which I think I would
Speaker 1: do The King and the Sting again this week. And
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do The Fighter and the Kid
Speaker 1: with Shopping Calling this week. And this is my big
Speaker 1: one and I hope it works out. But as of
Speaker 1: right now, it's on the books for me to do
Speaker 1: the Bird Cast. Oh I love Burt. Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm such a Burt fan. So if I get to
Speaker 1: actually do Chrisier, I'm gonna lose my ship. They're supposed
Speaker 1: to be making a movie based on the Machine than
Speaker 1: for sure. Literally he went out there and shot it already.
Speaker 1: He's so funny. He's so fucking funny. You know. It's
Speaker 1: funny because when I first saw his ship and I
Speaker 1: saw he did a stand up with no shirt on,
Speaker 1: I was like, asked some gimmicky shit, and I actually
Speaker 1: watched it, I was like, Oh, this guy's fucking got Well.
Speaker 1: The best part is then you watch him and that's
Speaker 1: just who he is. Yeah, for sure. You know he's
Speaker 1: got the most like hilariously painful laugh. Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: When he laughs, it's like no, for sure, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like painful, like bro, it's like some of it.
Speaker 1: Are you okay? He's gonna stroke out? He had super
Speaker 1: red faced. Yes, what's something that you learned? You had
Speaker 1: a great pandemic. I had a great pandemic in terms
Speaker 1: of just where we were before we started to where
Speaker 1: we are now. What is something that you took away from,
Speaker 1: you know, the goofy era of our country or the
Speaker 1: world rather the world. Yeah, content is king guys like
Speaker 1: shouls watching how they released. Content is also recession proof.
Speaker 1: It's pandemic proof, for sure. It's in fact it's needed
Speaker 1: more in those moments. Yeah, people were running out of
Speaker 1: ship to watch, Oh for sure, ran through a I
Speaker 1: watched there. Oh yeah, no, for I went back and
Speaker 1: rewatched prison Break. I was just at the crib of
Speaker 1: just losing my ship. Yeah, I was fucking awesome. My
Speaker 1: first came. It's like every other thing. The first season
Speaker 1: got weird. Yeah, it got weird. Season three they all
Speaker 1: do season into a prison break, We're so good, insane,
Speaker 1: and then season three they end up in jail again
Speaker 1: in Colombia. How many times can you end up in
Speaker 1: fucking jail? Yeah, Jesus, y'all milk the drug utter dry
Speaker 1: Sun one and two spitting dust so good. They gotta
Speaker 1: quit fucking legacies up. Another show that was like that, Oh,
Speaker 1: Dexter got weird after season four, The New Dexter was.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the New Dexter? All right,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I liked it because I hated the
Speaker 1: way Dexter ended. Yeah, it was so so I was
Speaker 1: kind of glad that they kind of brought it back
Speaker 1: full circle. Did you ever see Dynasty or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: That might have been what it was called. It was
Speaker 1: a show about a family who had a big dynasty,
Speaker 1: and it's like, it was awesome. I gotta look it up.
Speaker 1: Me and my wife watching it was so good. And
Speaker 1: like season three it turned into a fucking musical. Literally,
Speaker 1: it's bitches turned this fucking showed that was like savage, gangster,
Speaker 1: cutthroat business ship and it was a fucking musical. And
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all fucking blew it. I think five
Speaker 1: is the sweet spot. If you really got you gotta
Speaker 1: end it at five For sure, all the best shows.
Speaker 1: The Wire was five seasons, Breaking Bad was five seasons,
Speaker 1: Ozark four but two parts, right, yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: after you it was Sons of Anarchy too many? Was
Speaker 1: it like seven? It was like seven or eight? But
Speaker 1: it was great. It's still it's still I loved it,
Speaker 1: you know, the way we knew it would. But I
Speaker 1: just Sons of Anarchy with Peg Bunny stabs of Dax's
Speaker 1: fucking uh fucking wife in the head, his baby mom.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she was a you watch Mayans. No.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of friends who play on it
Speaker 1: that are awesome, Joseph and to Mmmm, yeah, I'm fucking
Speaker 1: with Yellowstone. There's a new show with Jeff Bridge is
Speaker 1: called The Old Man that's crazy. Three episodes in. Is
Speaker 1: it already all out or coming out once a week?
Speaker 1: Kol calling when it's finished. It's been fucking myself getting
Speaker 1: into those things, and I'm on the road, so I
Speaker 1: always miss when it comes out. Dude, Like The Boys,
Speaker 1: Season three starts with this fucking superhuman dude. Like there's
Speaker 1: like people in the show with powers. It's about essentially,
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, if superheroes were real, they'd be like corrupt,
Speaker 1: they'd have drug problems, they'd be fucking bitches, they'd be
Speaker 1: like taking advantage of people. Like so it's like that
Speaker 1: angle the superhero thing, and like the Captain America of
Speaker 1: the show, like the face, like the biggest superhero in
Speaker 1: the tree is like a fucking sociopast, serial killer, fucking rapist, maniac,
Speaker 1: and everyone's scared of him because he's got Like what's
Speaker 1: this show. It's called The Boys, It's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But season three starts. There's this like dude
Speaker 1: who's kind of like ant man, right, So he's fucking
Speaker 1: some gay club and he takes his dude into the
Speaker 1: room and it looks like he's about to get fucked
Speaker 1: in the ass, and uh, the dude. So the dude,
Speaker 1: the dude bends over and it's like jump in. So
Speaker 1: the superhero guy goes super tiny, like small enough, and
Speaker 1: he dives in the tip of this guy's dick, no
Speaker 1: fucking way. So he's inside of the guy's dick and
Speaker 1: he's like tickling the sides and when he sneezes, he
Speaker 1: gets big again. So he sneezes inside the guy's dick
Speaker 1: and explodes. The dude all over the fun. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and then watching it and then what you're
Speaker 1: doing with your life. Guy kicks in the door right
Speaker 1: finds him the guy. He puts the little midget motherfucker
Speaker 1: into a bag of cocaine and shakes it up, and
Speaker 1: he dies of an overdose. Oh my god. Besides dying
Speaker 1: of an overdose, it's kind of a dream scenario for me.
Speaker 1: I wish I could just go swim around the bag
Speaker 1: of cocaine. I might do that tonight. To be honest,
Speaker 1: it's where's a bag of coat? It might be the
Speaker 1: way I get over this hangover from plane drinking this morning.
Speaker 1: Is cocaine a nice even if you have a hangover?
Speaker 1: Would you say it? Well, it's more of a if
Speaker 1: I'm really drunk thing. You know. Cocaine's weird now because
Speaker 1: the day of doing it with strangers in the bathroom
Speaker 1: is over, because you might have You just can't trust
Speaker 1: the drugs anymore. We're having to run around with drug
Speaker 1: testing kids, like sucking a police officer. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're like testing fucking with testing strips. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he might die. Yeah, it's fucking fucked up, dude.
Speaker 1: Guy what. It's so cool when you can just bump
Speaker 1: into a stone cold stranger at a bar and he's like,
Speaker 1: want to hit a bumper? Like fuck yeah. He was
Speaker 1: like the Mountain. He would just be in there pulling
Speaker 1: little mountains of coke on the end of a key
Speaker 1: or a fucking car. You didn't know this, dude. You
Speaker 1: were just like, thank you, Mountain Ferry, I'll take another
Speaker 1: little heel and you're just hitting them with them, and
Speaker 1: y'all are fucking party in the bathroom. You don't fucking
Speaker 1: know each other. And then you leave, You're like, I
Speaker 1: did did some killer blow with that dude in the bathroom. Dude,
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. He was ranking them out sign And now
Speaker 1: you're dude to the bathroom, like you want to hit
Speaker 1: some blow, And I'm like, I want to see you
Speaker 1: do a whole eight ball first, first show me that
Speaker 1: you can do it. Yeah, And how long have you
Speaker 1: been doing this blow? You might have already got accustomed
Speaker 1: to the amount of fit and all in it, and
Speaker 1: I might not be. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are dealing with that shit, like the overdose shit,
Speaker 1: because I know what's happening a lot like everywhere, man
Speaker 1: We had a really bad few years in Nashville, especially
Speaker 1: with old friends from the neighborhood that kind of went
Speaker 1: from pills to shooting shit and just you know, that
Speaker 1: whole culture is just out here. They're like, uh, I
Speaker 1: watched way too much random shit on YouTube. But there's
Speaker 1: this guy named Dark White Underbelly. You watch the shit.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. So he interviews like prostitutes and like careers
Speaker 1: and all kinds of great shit. But dude, in La
Speaker 1: like in fucking uh, where's the homeless? People ask Roll,
Speaker 1: They're all like they don't want I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: where are they not? No, no, they don't want normal
Speaker 1: drugs Like there they specifically are smoking fentanyl, like they're
Speaker 1: like proof, They're like fentanyl proof. But I think it's
Speaker 1: like everything else, like once your body has felt it
Speaker 1: and gets it in certain amounts, you can. But I
Speaker 1: think it's just I don't get it at all. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. So it's definitely put a damper on my
Speaker 1: cocaine heard. I'm in the prime of my career. I
Speaker 1: should be out here living like fucking Jerry Buss in
Speaker 1: the seventies, fucking eighties. I should be out here just
Speaker 1: fucking me and my wife should just be out here
Speaker 1: fucking bitches and fucking doing just fucking just piles of
Speaker 1: cocaine every night and drinking Scotch for breakfast. And instead
Speaker 1: we're having to run around like she's probably got an
Speaker 1: STD and that cocaine's probably got fen all in it. Jesus, ye,
Speaker 1: just wrong. Wrong. That makes me think about this. Have
Speaker 1: you ever thought about what the backstage you look like
Speaker 1: at a concert in the seventies and eighties? Oh? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it was amazing, dude. There was not a camera in sight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just imagine topless women running around and passing out
Speaker 1: Heroin kids, heroin kits, fucking dig peels right, just like Yo,
Speaker 1: here's a blue shoe and a fucking shot of heroin, right,
Speaker 1: and they're just running around. Everybody's just origining. Go to
Speaker 1: blue shoo dot com promo code bootleg and get your
Speaker 1: first month. There you go, baby, go to the blue
Speaker 1: shoe dot com and look at see I'll run your
Speaker 1: promos for you. Got a ad read, I'll do it
Speaker 1: with you right now. The blue shoes work, They do work.
Speaker 1: I know. Souls convinced me to have Yeah, I took
Speaker 1: a blue shoe. Wake up in the morning, that dick hard.
Speaker 1: The wind blows and it's like, hello, you have that
Speaker 1: piston boner in the morning. Yeah, And I just I
Speaker 1: need all the help I can get in that department.
Speaker 1: Hey man, as belly goes out, it goes in. It's
Speaker 1: like a turtle just receiding. It's just get the it's
Speaker 1: a It's fucking bad, dude. It's disappearing and smelling bad.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking for sure. It's so bad. It's just it's
Speaker 1: fucking horrible. Maybe that's why we're not having orgies backstage
Speaker 1: and doing cocaine too. Eternal don't come out much. When
Speaker 1: he does, he smells like a swamp. I can't believe
Speaker 1: my wife loves me. I'm fucking I'm such a disappointment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought about this eighties thing the other day because
Speaker 1: we were at a festival and I'm backstage and I
Speaker 1: looked around and there was like a dude from another
Speaker 1: rock band complaining about having a peanut allergy and asking
Speaker 1: where the vegan options were and if there was any
Speaker 1: peanuts in the room at all, And I'm like, fucking
Speaker 1: Vince Neil would be sickened by you. It's like fucking
Speaker 1: you know what, some where crazy. I talked to Chad
Speaker 1: from Nickelback, and he's actually one of the cool ones.
Speaker 1: I think Nickelback gets a bad rap. They're kind of
Speaker 1: like the go to band to be like they're they're gay. Listen,
Speaker 1: but if you don't think, but no one's gayer than Creed.
Speaker 1: Creed is the real Nickelback. I tell you, I tell
Speaker 1: you what I can say this. I don't have a
Speaker 1: Creed song. I bumped very often at all, but I
Speaker 1: can tell you that rock stars still fucks. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and Nickelback might make the best white strip club music ever.
Speaker 1: You go into a white strip club and a chick
Speaker 1: that's the size of the rail of that light over
Speaker 1: there is just slow thrusting. That's like a fucking go
Speaker 1: to at the white strip club. Say it's worth saving.
Speaker 1: She's saving up to go to gatherings. She's just slow thrusting. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: oh godh by the way, you have you done the
Speaker 1: gathering of the juggle? I've done it nine times. I
Speaker 1: have tripped acid all nine times. I was there the
Speaker 1: year they threw ship at Tila Tequila. Oh, I was there.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was so incredible. It was the
Speaker 1: greatest moment ever. She got on stage and they started
Speaker 1: booing her, and then she just like leaned into it
Speaker 1: and like pulls her top off and starts shaking her titties,
Speaker 1: and like she thought, like Juggalos would be like, Oh, well, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna cheer for that. These are jugglos, bitch. Everybody
Speaker 1: out here shaking their titties and fucking smells like my pecker.
Speaker 1: It's you know what I'm saying, Not because I'm a
Speaker 1: Juggalo at heart, not because Juggalos think, but because they've
Speaker 1: been camping for five days in the woods in fucking
Speaker 1: eighties and ninety eight degree weather and doing drugs right,
Speaker 1: and you're shaking your tits and they just start throwing
Speaker 1: just bottles of shit and pists ad her. I'd like
Speaker 1: to point out I haven't met many Juggalos that I've
Speaker 1: came away from being around and said they smell nice. Yeah, well, listen,
Speaker 1: I've got some of the best drugs and weed on Earth.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this. If I have a car,
Speaker 1: Oh sorry about that, let's pop it right on. I've
Speaker 1: been fucking with this to the point I was trying
Speaker 1: trying to break it, f take it off. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: I want to plug the cash. You know I might
Speaker 1: have did it though there look at me. Fucking let's
Speaker 1: go son. If I break down on the side of
Speaker 1: the road and I see a car pull up with
Speaker 1: that hatchet man, oh you're good. Thank you. The most
Speaker 1: genuine people. That's why I said I'll always be a
Speaker 1: Juggleo at heart. Those people are the best people on earth.
Speaker 1: And you want to get good acid, you call a
Speaker 1: fucking juggalo. If you don't call a dude, that's a
Speaker 1: fucking dead head. If you got to either have a
Speaker 1: teddy bear tattooed on you or a hatchet man tattooed
Speaker 1: on you to give me any psychedelic except for you.
Speaker 1: G it's literally it's so funny. There's like teachers now
Speaker 1: with like hatchetman tattoos and ship Oh yeah for sure
Speaker 1: that we're just tripping balls watching tea tequila, get big
Speaker 1: old jango pants, fucking great Malnko jerseys. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: just fucking do you remember those Jinko's, Yeah, you had,
Speaker 1: but you never had a pair of. My cousin was
Speaker 1: a big juggle I'm guilty. I had you remember, like
Speaker 1: the bottom of them. How like crusty they'd get because
Speaker 1: they dragged your shreg Oh my god, I love crusty
Speaker 1: stuff though, you probably, but you could put a whole
Speaker 1: two liter in the pocket. Yeah, oh you could put anything. Listen,
Speaker 1: yo yo, this is the vantage of being fat. I
Speaker 1: had this pocket right here in my dimm jackets. I
Speaker 1: can put a bottle of tequilan, smuggle it anywhere. Wow,
Speaker 1: true story. I am always I normally have a bottle
Speaker 1: of tequila on me. When you were at the liquor
Speaker 1: store earlier, I thought that's what you were getting, so
Speaker 1: I didn't bring any No, I had to get water.
Speaker 1: Oh is there was there a drug bridge at the
Speaker 1: gathering in the it was the bridge ever so there's
Speaker 1: like so at the gathering of the Juggalos. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it still is the case I gotta take,
Speaker 1: but there's a supposed to be like a free drug
Speaker 1: bridge or some shit, right, And I heard there's like
Speaker 1: a fuck hut. Dude, it's a community fucking I wonder
Speaker 1: what that smells like in there though. The hut. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a reference point. But did you ever fucking
Speaker 1: the fuck hut at the gathering? I'd never fucked in
Speaker 1: the fuck hut at the gathering. I fucked at the gathering.
Speaker 1: At the gathering. Fucks it is awesome. It will change listen.
Speaker 1: So they used to have it cave in Rock, Illinois.
Speaker 1: The only way to get there was during the day
Speaker 1: by faery. You had to take a ferry, or you
Speaker 1: had to drive like four hours around the other way
Speaker 1: to get there, or you could take a ferry over
Speaker 1: There was a private property, so they could do anything anything.
Speaker 1: It was a complete fucking chaos. It was absolute lawlessness.
Speaker 1: You know what. The same thing of the gathering is
Speaker 1: mud parks. I play mud parks all the time. These festivals,
Speaker 1: these off road ATV parks, they're the gathering for country people.
Speaker 1: They go out there and camp for four days and
Speaker 1: fucking it's lawless. They do drugs, they fuck, They fucking
Speaker 1: drink themselves to sleep, they catch it on fire, and
Speaker 1: they ride fucking four wheelers. It is heaven on earth.
Speaker 1: It is the best experience I've ever Every time I
Speaker 1: play one, I pull up early, I have somebody bringing
Speaker 1: four wheelers out. We tear shit up. It is a blast.
Speaker 1: The gathering is the exact same way. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's there for the music and piece. You
Speaker 1: don't hear people arguing juggal thing if it's like a
Speaker 1: family oriented fan base, right, Yeah, for sure. No, that's
Speaker 1: their whole thing is family. It's a dude, I'll take
Speaker 1: you to one. They're a ball. I tried to play
Speaker 1: this one this year, but I had a scheduling. I've
Speaker 1: been doing a few shows where they shoot they go
Speaker 1: into the crowd. Yeah, yeah, that's like the show. They
Speaker 1: do it the last night too, But they did. They
Speaker 1: did a tour Tech nine, cotton Mouth, Kings and Bone
Speaker 1: Thus that was one of the biggest tours ever own
Speaker 1: things in harmony. Yes, what a fucking saw them had
Speaker 1: a crazy name to it. They did masa Amphitheater, which
Speaker 1: is like six thousand people sold out and never fucking
Speaker 1: launching two leaders into the sky of fego. How hard
Speaker 1: it was to sell hard tickets back then. You couldn't
Speaker 1: like you had to advertise like traditional ways true, Like
Speaker 1: I remember I used to always get I used to
Speaker 1: always just pick up a New Times, which is like
Speaker 1: a free newspaper in Arizona, and you just go in
Speaker 1: there and see what shows. That's the only way I
Speaker 1: knew which shows were coming. Now it's like the internet
Speaker 1: I played. Yellow Wolf has a fucking one of my
Speaker 1: favorite gathering stories ever. They shot a bottle rocket while
Speaker 1: he was performing m and he goes at this moment,
Speaker 1: fucking true yellow Wolf fast and he goes, which they
Speaker 1: wasn't shooting it, like to be mean, It's just a gathering, right,
Speaker 1: They're just fucking shooting fireworks. And he goes, I bet
Speaker 1: you can't hit me with a bottle rocket, dude. Hundreds
Speaker 1: of juggalos just start shooting bottle rockets. Yellow Wolf He's
Speaker 1: up there like dude, He's slipping them like Tyson in
Speaker 1: eighty four. He's moving boom there, whizzing find he goes,
Speaker 1: Hahi by the fuckers, and he's rapping while doing it.
Speaker 1: It was like one of the dopest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Have you heard Yellowolf's rock album? I love it. It
Speaker 1: is so fucking good. Yes to make Me make Me
Speaker 1: a Believer thing. It's crazy. The video is crazy. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got the radio record everything I think I told him.
Speaker 1: I was like, this feels like it just feels like big.
Speaker 1: It feels arena rocky, old school arena rock. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like I told him this the other day. It
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like you should be opening up
Speaker 1: for like fucking Motley Crew or fucking like the Rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: Like this ship sounds like you should be opening for
Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones. It's like big ship, big fun. It's
Speaker 1: so fucking good. And I thought that was dope fro
Speaker 1: him to do that, to get that loose with that
Speaker 1: right after coming off you know, the Male Zero project
Speaker 1: and the Caskie Ship. Yeah, shout out to a shooter Jennings. Ye.
Speaker 1: Sometimes why that is struggles, brother struggles, uncle struggles, Okay, struggles,
Speaker 1: uncle shooters what we called him. Were you in struggle
Speaker 1: do another joint? We're doing another one now you are. Well,
Speaker 1: we're putting those out until we're fucking like Grumpy Old
Speaker 1: Men or the Grumpy Old Men movies. That'll be me
Speaker 1: in struggle putting out projects when we're seventy. I remember
Speaker 1: the Yeah, the Grumpy Old Men was I remember that.
Speaker 1: What was the guy's name? He one had white hair
Speaker 1: and one had that big fu Yeah, I forgot the
Speaker 1: names of it. But it's like, well, that'll be me
Speaker 1: in struggle. We'll be like putting out project. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: makes me feel really fat every time I see him
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Listen you want to fuck you imagine how
Speaker 1: he looks like a fucking action figure. Yeah, he's fucking yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I hate him. I'm like, bro, yeah, no, I've seen him.
Speaker 1: He's just walking around with his shirt off, fucking doing.
Speaker 1: He looks like he's a professional cage fighter. He does.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is happening with you? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: couldn't be doing more of the opposite. I'm just like
Speaker 1: fucking eating sandwiches and drinking myself into a coma every
Speaker 1: night and fucking waking up with a hangover and having
Speaker 1: to eat my way through it the next day. I'm
Speaker 1: saying or blowing fucking cocaine boogers out. I'm having like
Speaker 1: the total opposite moment of my life and struggles having
Speaker 1: Right now. I just rewatched the first episode of uh
Speaker 1: fucking Snowfalls. You see Snowfall? Oh? Yes, you know, like
Speaker 1: that first episode the FBI agent. I think it blows
Speaker 1: cocaine up his ass and he dies, or the other way. No, No,
Speaker 1: he blows cocaine up her ass and she dies and
Speaker 1: then he has to clean up the body. I say
Speaker 1: out to say, have you ever snored? A cocaine off
Speaker 1: of a woman's asshole. Yes, how was that incredible? I
Speaker 1: think I did my wife. To be honest with me
Speaker 1: and my wife. First, me and my wife sober now,
Speaker 1: but when we first got together, I was the doll one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to my wife. Man, she's she is the
Speaker 1: sober one. And but she was like a fucking mad
Speaker 1: woman when I first got with her. You know, I
Speaker 1: think the first five times I've seen her, I just
Speaker 1: I just asked her for a bump in a xanax
Speaker 1: bar like in past, and I was like, you got
Speaker 1: a bump? She's like yep, And she'd feed me a
Speaker 1: fucking just big old fucking hogger. And then I'd be like,
Speaker 1: later that night i bump into her again at some
Speaker 1: bar or some casino, I'd be like, you got a xanax.
Speaker 1: She's like yep. She'd like she was like a past
Speaker 1: dispenser of drugs. That's fucking great. Yeah. Literally, she was
Speaker 1: just like the fucking she was the mountain ferry in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, right, she was back to you know, she
Speaker 1: was just running around just feeding it did too much cocaine.
Speaker 1: It's hard to fuck on that, right. Oh well, fuck
Speaker 1: I mean, we've already discussed my struggles. I would need
Speaker 1: a blue shoe times two in a miracle. It's fucking
Speaker 1: is it harder to fuck when you're at the size
Speaker 1: you are in terms of just like the geometry of
Speaker 1: the situation, like playing fucking uh twister, left foot on yellow,
Speaker 1: right hand on red, Move this here, set this on
Speaker 1: your back, was saying turn this one. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like you were. You did have an error though,
Speaker 1: where you lost a lot of weight. I did, Yeah did,
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, And believe it or not, let's be clear.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm down like twenty five thirty pounds. I joked
Speaker 1: that great. I'm taking my health serious. I go see
Speaker 1: my cardiologist every three months. But you're trying to get
Speaker 1: losing the weight at a good rate. I don't want
Speaker 1: to lose it too fast because of the heart. When
Speaker 1: people are like, I don't want to see nothing bad
Speaker 1: happen to you, Like, look, I used to do cocaine
Speaker 1: and sip lean, y'all, I'm gonna be okay. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about me. I'm I'm all right. I'm being facetious more
Speaker 1: often than not. But yeah, it's like, fuck, I lose
Speaker 1: the weight again. Pandemic Just fucking did it to me,
Speaker 1: you know, just fucking me too. I never had to
Speaker 1: sit still. I lost like forty pounds. Oh u, I
Speaker 1: gained forty pounds. You know what's crazy? You were like
Speaker 1: me though. I never had to sit Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like the first time from years of touring that God
Speaker 1: was just like, no, you're gonna just sit here. You
Speaker 1: had to cancel some shows too. Oh fuck a whole
Speaker 1: Tech nine tour. That's right, fifty seven cities or something happened.
Speaker 1: It's the best tour that never took off. Wow, I
Speaker 1: forgot that heartbreak and now we have a gold record
Speaker 1: together that we've never even performed, Creature's Gold. Yeah, jeez,
Speaker 1: it's fucking nuts. I forgot and then he had to
Speaker 1: redo it. But with Ritz yep, Shout out to Ritz,
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ritz. Still fucking out there, slugging, still
Speaker 1: out there, is going to rits Man. I can tell
Speaker 1: you this. Ain't nobody out rapping rits I don't disagree. Mean,
Speaker 1: he knows this, how he knows how I feel about him. No,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody out rapping rits Man. You know when when
Speaker 1: he's in his bag, ain't nobody fucking with that dude. Man,
Speaker 1: I just hope one day Ritz can have an honest
Speaker 1: bio book because he has some of the craziest stories
Speaker 1: that he can never tell on camera. Oh it's fucking
Speaker 1: it's a wild boy. That No, that dude's fucking nuts.
Speaker 1: I'm a little crazy. He's a lunatic. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: fucking lunatic. Yeah, he's crazy. Cool watching that whole scene
Speaker 1: and everybody grow the way they have for sure, for
Speaker 1: sure leaving like a guy like Caski. You know, look,
Speaker 1: he records here, he just did this album here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: love what he's doing. You know y'all talked about on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Obviously we all got in a weird spot
Speaker 1: because CASKI ended up like dissing some other dudes that
Speaker 1: we associate with in the circuit. And it's like, I'm glad,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that somehow paralleled into this, because you know
Speaker 1: what hurts me about that whole situation is watching a
Speaker 1: bunch of really good dudes that don't know each other
Speaker 1: have a problem with each other and me knowing every
Speaker 1: one of them personally and being like, y'all are all
Speaker 1: really good dudes. Though. Look, if you guys ever actually
Speaker 1: hung out. Yeah, Like if you knew Adam Calhoun's heart,
Speaker 1: and that dude is a fucking sweetheart. Man, He's a
Speaker 1: good fucking father. He's a dedicated you know, he's just
Speaker 1: like a good dude. That's fair, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it's like if you knew that about him, Like
Speaker 1: how much he just celebrates other people winning and how
Speaker 1: much he's one of the first text I get every
Speaker 1: time I do something cool, you him, And there's a
Speaker 1: group of people that every time something even looks cool,
Speaker 1: he's one of the first texts. Like such a sweetheart,
Speaker 1: CASKI I've watched since he was a kid, like that.
Speaker 1: He's a great dude, Like Cask's not a bad Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the root of their issue is.
Speaker 1: I think that you know what I think, man, this
Speaker 1: is what I truly think. I think that during the
Speaker 1: pandemic and I'm I'm like a really independently thinking guy.
Speaker 1: I kind of consider myself like more in like the
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan lane of politics, socially liberal. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to protect my family. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to, you know, obviously within reason, have access to weapons,
Speaker 1: and you know, I do feel like eighteen year old
Speaker 1: kids who just graduated high school shouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: go by two ar fifteen's without taking a class or something.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying take the guns, just like you know,
Speaker 1: maybe go through a course before you get something like that.
Speaker 1: But I do think that like a guy like al
Speaker 1: Adam Alhoun, who I didn't know anything about except for
Speaker 1: when CASKI because I'm closed with CASKI. And then the
Speaker 1: first thing I just see is all this politics, shiit this,
Speaker 1: you know, the mag of shit. And to me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, anybody who rides out it'd be like
Speaker 1: if there was a Joe bid like a rapper riding
Speaker 1: for Joe Biden, I'd be like crazy, right, And so
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why, like I like, when I
Speaker 1: saw that, I was just like, yeah, dude, like I
Speaker 1: don't I don't get that ship. And and to me, like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, people make music for
Speaker 1: all types of audiences. And you know, I think a
Speaker 1: guy like Struggle is like a perfect example of somebody
Speaker 1: who may feel however he feels, but he's just making
Speaker 1: music and he's not like making it in a divisive
Speaker 1: way that makes fans feel that they have to shoot,
Speaker 1: Like if does that make sense? What I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that makes more sense than anything. And I live in
Speaker 1: the complete opposite world of everybody. I don't have an
Speaker 1: opinion about this shit at all. Like I hate our government.
Speaker 1: I hated our government with every president we've had since
Speaker 1: I was like fourteen, because they charged me as an
Speaker 1: adult for a crime I committed when I was fucking
Speaker 1: fifteen years old. They took every right I have away
Speaker 1: from him. Because of that, I am personally protesting our
Speaker 1: government I have been forever. It's like, I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. I think it's all a divide and conquer thing.
Speaker 1: I think a two party system is just meant for failure, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't get him wrapped of it, none of
Speaker 1: that shit. But my thing is too, is that this
Speaker 1: is I tell you this story, and this is what
Speaker 1: changed my perspective. My brother's here, he knows this to
Speaker 1: be true. My father was I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: said this publicly. My father was a progressive man. He
Speaker 1: probably leaned a little liberal in his older age, right.
Speaker 1: My uncle was a progressive man that leaned a little
Speaker 1: conservative in his own older age. They grew up together
Speaker 1: three years apart, best fucking friends from birth seventy in
Speaker 1: their seventies, my father was more of a Methodist Church
Speaker 1: kind of man, which is a kind of a portion
Speaker 1: of a Catholic thing, not a portion, but it rides
Speaker 1: that fensive kind of direct to the scripture, real, stand up, pray, simple.
Speaker 1: You know. My uncle at the time especially was more
Speaker 1: of a Pentecostal guy, which is more of you know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a big difference. Right. One day, when
Speaker 1: my dad was dying, I said, how have you and uncle?
Speaker 1: You have been best friends for all these years, and
Speaker 1: y'all don't agree about anything. My father set me straight.
Speaker 1: He said, what are you talking? We don't agree about anything.
Speaker 1: He said, we slightly disagree about two things. We agree
Speaker 1: about a thousand things. He's like, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: the world wants to talk about the two things they
Speaker 1: don't agree about instead of the thousand things we can
Speaker 1: make progress with that we do agree with. Right, And
Speaker 1: that just changed the way I look at life. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like immediately I look past it,
Speaker 1: So I guess it's like even with the ship, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm old school enough to think that. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I think about politics being the music. Right,
Speaker 1: it's been around as long as we've been around. YEAHBLIC pests,
Speaker 1: public Enemy is making protest music, raige against the machine.
Speaker 1: It's been happening, so, you know, it's funny. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it, Like when Adam and them first started rapping.
Speaker 1: I would look at that like, oh, dude, these dudes
Speaker 1: are like, this isn't protest music. They're green with the government.
Speaker 1: And then there's a regime switch in America, right, the
Speaker 1: part of the political parties changes and suddenly it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: well that's protest music now. And that just showed me
Speaker 1: how unstable the foundation of America is in itself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess with that dude, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know much about his whole catalog. I guess I've
Speaker 1: just seen a few these guys some stuff that's really dope.
Speaker 1: But then I've seen like there's but then there's other
Speaker 1: guys like you know, I'll see like a the dude
Speaker 1: from Florida, what's that dude's name, the MAGA rapper dude Blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that to me, to me, that ship is just corny.
Speaker 1: It's corny to me because I know what he was
Speaker 1: doing before he was doing he was doing the blue
Speaker 1: hair fucking bootleg riff raff ship I lived, was doing
Speaker 1: like the the white Rick Ross thing, right. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like his angle, And to me it's like low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit and it's like the artist the artistic integrity
Speaker 1: is like, Yo, you're kind of like putting all your
Speaker 1: eggs in this basket, but that basket has a ceiling
Speaker 1: that's this high for sure. I guess when you've been
Speaker 1: making shitty rap music for as long as that guy
Speaker 1: has any fandom, you're gonna be like, well, I'm making
Speaker 1: money over here, so I'm gonna lean into this ship.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's just like divisive. But I do think,
Speaker 1: like I said, like, you know, it's important like for
Speaker 1: me if I if I don't agree with somebody on
Speaker 1: certain ship like I have. I have people in my
Speaker 1: life who will cut people off based on like their
Speaker 1: opinion on one or two things. And to me, that's
Speaker 1: never like uh productive, No, it's like and that I
Speaker 1: guess that that goes back to my thing with him
Speaker 1: was like I know Adam outside of the music. I
Speaker 1: know cast outside of the music. I know, everybody was
Speaker 1: politically charged in that moment except for Jolly Roll because
Speaker 1: fuck our government forever. But it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where like, I know these dudes to be good dudes,
Speaker 1: so you look when that happens, and you're like, I
Speaker 1: wish I could get y'all together to just like talk
Speaker 1: like responsible dudes and like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like y'all have so much, like y'all would actually have
Speaker 1: a have a hilarious conversation. Tom McDonald's the same way.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, yeah, he's from Canada, but he's fucking
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't like again like I did,
Speaker 1: because he's independent and I I I'm also kind of
Speaker 1: like I like when you know, he does a lot
Speaker 1: of the YouTube rap shit, like you know, And I
Speaker 1: watched a vlog he did about uh him and that
Speaker 1: dude's album being fucked on Billboard, and I watched that
Speaker 1: because I was actually interested in that because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: as an independent artist, that's crazy what that dude's doing.
Speaker 1: I might not fuck with his music, right, but it's
Speaker 1: insane the business he's built, right, and it's like just
Speaker 1: him and his girl. Yeah, for sure, No, that's the
Speaker 1: shit I can look past and I'm like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is this respectable like, you know, like I might not
Speaker 1: agree with, like I might not be a fan of
Speaker 1: like his shit, like it's just not for me, but
Speaker 1: I can at least appreciate it. Independent artists doing that
Speaker 1: kind of shit. That shit's crazy. He's got a record
Speaker 1: he put out called Scars. It's like a rock kind
Speaker 1: of driven record. That's fucking incredible songwriting. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of where I live with everybody, right, Like I'm just
Speaker 1: always looking for I don't know, I guess I'm a songwriter,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of overarm and all that other shit anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, does he have a song I thought
Speaker 1: was written really well? And Adam's got a few cask
Speaker 1: He's got a lot yellow Holfs, got more than probably anybody.
Speaker 1: Struggles got to tell him. These are dudes that I'm
Speaker 1: just like rits that I can just look at and
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, I don't you know, I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck if you were the biggest Biden support on Earth.
Speaker 1: This song fucks you know what I'm saying, Like this,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much. It's like listen r Kelly's
Speaker 1: a piece of shit. I love his music. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get me to quit listening to I wish. You
Speaker 1: just can't do that to me, dude, I'm sorry, cancel me.
Speaker 1: Fuck it. How about this somebody from the artist? Somebody
Speaker 1: cover it then, But don't take a song that I
Speaker 1: played at funerals away from me, because this man's just comeback.
Speaker 1: Somebody cover it, Like, don't tell me something about Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson and the Human Nature is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: songs ever. You know, somebody cover it. If there's a
Speaker 1: better version out there, I'll bump it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's for sure. But it's like, man, that
Speaker 1: fucking so dude, I've cried dozens of tears that I
Speaker 1: wish it's a great record. I love our I mean. R.
Speaker 1: Kelly is probably my favorite R and B singer ever,
Speaker 1: outside of him being a piece of shit strictly discography
Speaker 1: twelve play. You know, if I didn't know his name,
Speaker 1: or know that he pissed on Little Girls or watch
Speaker 1: the fucking wild R. Kelly series, that was fucking nuts.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. If I didn't know that it was
Speaker 1: just the voice of the radar, I'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this fucking slaps Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. How do
Speaker 1: you like? Do you do you even participate? We're talking
Speaker 1: about the politics. Should you vote? Do you like? Are
Speaker 1: you able to? Because A yeah, man, fuck our government.
Speaker 1: You know who? You know who I want to vote for?
Speaker 1: Who gives me the right to vote? You show me
Speaker 1: this guy. I rally behind him tomorrow. I don't care
Speaker 1: what party he's a part of. The Dude who's like yo,
Speaker 1: Because listen, I'm fighting to get into Canada. Fighting tough, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm New Zealand. There's a ton of places that you
Speaker 1: just can't go to that you're like life changing. Money
Speaker 1: is sitting. Get done to get into Canada, Dude, I've
Speaker 1: got to get a minister's permit. I've got to get
Speaker 1: a lawyer. It's gonna cost one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: even see if it can happen. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: just throw one hundred thousand dollars into a wishing well.
Speaker 1: I just had to pay like thirty thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: get a passport just to be able to leave America.
Speaker 1: I just had to go clean up so much shit
Speaker 1: just to be able to leave America for my criminal records.
Speaker 1: Like and I love when somebody for sure will comment
Speaker 1: on this. Buildings can vote, buildings can do this, And
Speaker 1: they're going to put up a bunch of links that
Speaker 1: I've already went to and tried to figure out. Tennessee
Speaker 1: has a zero forgiveness policy for violent offenders. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: was fifteen years old. I'm not proud of it. I
Speaker 1: committed a violent offense that they deemed hard enough for
Speaker 1: me to be charged as an adult three years before
Speaker 1: I mean a year and a half before I fucking
Speaker 1: grew up sack of hair on my sack. I was
Speaker 1: charged as an adult three years before I was allowed
Speaker 1: to buy a pack of cigarettes five years according to
Speaker 1: the age thing now, which I just found out yesterday,
Speaker 1: you have to be twenty one to buy cigarettes. Now,
Speaker 1: that's how much I don't give a fuck about policies
Speaker 1: and politics. I missed that completely, but three years for ultimately,
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at here is because of something I
Speaker 1: did when I was a child, the government has taken
Speaker 1: away tons of rights for mine. The right to vote,
Speaker 1: getting home on their insurance was next to impossible, renting houses,
Speaker 1: renting the buildings to work out of studios. There's so
Speaker 1: many things associated with if you're NFL. It's like when
Speaker 1: people they always say, like you almost have to lie
Speaker 1: on a job out of you have to for sure.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I go through all these struggles and
Speaker 1: then you want me to talk about like you should
Speaker 1: speak up about politics. You don't want to hear my
Speaker 1: randmotherfucker fuck our government. It fucked me, fucked me, fucked me.
Speaker 1: I think we're just like in a place where the
Speaker 1: far the far right and the far left are controlling
Speaker 1: the narrative and dividing the country. That a country that
Speaker 1: most people agree on more shit than they don't, for sure,
Speaker 1: but the extreme opposite of each side is so fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: and it's like, are we in the fucking episode of
Speaker 1: the part's the hardest thing to watch. It goes back
Speaker 1: to just divide and concer. It's all divisive, all divisive, man,
Speaker 1: Any any system is that way. It's just it's it's
Speaker 1: made to eat us from the end side out. And
Speaker 1: that's just I feel like it's getting worse. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: only gonna get worse. And I'll start speaking more publicly
Speaker 1: about how I feel about politics when I fucking they
Speaker 1: start making ship right by us. And that's just how
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel like everybody's I'm just I gonna
Speaker 1: know I'm better. Holy Graduate, Florida. If you're a felon,
Speaker 1: you can vote, Yeah, I mean you can in Tennessee
Speaker 1: if you have a forge a forgivable felone. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: like I have to get a governor's pardon, which I'm
Speaker 1: working on. I'm talking to building. You're kind of you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're a big guy now. Yeah, And it's like
Speaker 1: I work in good circles. We have a Democratic mayor
Speaker 1: in Nashville. We're friends, we get along well. I have
Speaker 1: a Republican governor. We're friends and we get along with
Speaker 1: I do a lot for the community. I'm always trying
Speaker 1: to push the ball for it. I'm big. I'm donating
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the money from the Bridgetonne Arena
Speaker 1: show to at risk youth. I'm building a music center
Speaker 1: inside of the Juvenile Downtown Wow and we're putting together
Speaker 1: with the Youth Impact Rears out to Robert Sherrill. We're
Speaker 1: building aftercare program that kids will be cornered ported to
Speaker 1: if they get charged as juveniles. I'm fixing to put
Speaker 1: my money in my mouth. There's gonna be a lot much.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a big difference. You're selling out your
Speaker 1: hometown and then putting that money right back in that
Speaker 1: big and I'm matching it on top of the top
Speaker 1: of it. That's crazy. I'll tell you what the number
Speaker 1: is off camera. That's a lot, man, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's a lot. It's a lot. Sounds like about
Speaker 1: a quarter. It's you're warm, but not hots you that much.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a lot of money. That's beautiful, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that? Because that's what I'm passionate about. Right.
Speaker 1: So when people are like, what do you think about,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever's happening in the world today, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: a way that i can help some fourteen year old
Speaker 1: kid not throw his life away at fourteen, not make
Speaker 1: the same mistakes I did. Yeah, dude, they wouldn't let
Speaker 1: me in the community college because of my felonies. What
Speaker 1: I had, a community college that couldn't get me the
Speaker 1: money because of my felonies. You know you're talking about, dude.
Speaker 1: I was fucking fifteen, man, I mean, thank god it
Speaker 1: worked out the way it worked out for me. But yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I could have been a fucking doctor or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Guy's the limit. The way I'm driving, I
Speaker 1: could have been a brainshurting. I'm helping more people doing music,
Speaker 1: so you think you can that felony at that age
Speaker 1: put you on a path for sure. And my big
Speaker 1: problem with this is you're not talking about a decision
Speaker 1: that like adult makes adults make, right. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about like the revolving door of a grown man who
Speaker 1: needs to change his life, like you're talking about a kid.
Speaker 1: Like these kids don't know any better. They're just products
Speaker 1: of their environment. They're just trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: next for them. It's fucking fucked up. They don't get
Speaker 1: that there's another opportunity. I didn't realize. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I was in my mid twenties before I realized how
Speaker 1: much I fucked up at fifteen? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Like before my brain could actually go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I like, really fucking what if you don't mind sharing
Speaker 1: what happened? It was a robbery case. It was a
Speaker 1: robbery case, and uh, we were just kids, you know,
Speaker 1: The saddest part is we were robbing a guy for weed,
Speaker 1: but one of the other guys in there wasn't a
Speaker 1: weed dealer and had some money and a watch or something.
Speaker 1: We were like, we were just fucking neighborhood kids. Man,
Speaker 1: we're doing doesn't make it right. I'm embarrassed by it.
Speaker 1: I never talk about it. The first podcast ever said
Speaker 1: what the charge was. I'm extremely embarrassed by this. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near that man now, but thirty seven year
Speaker 1: old man twenty fucking one years later, twenty two years later,
Speaker 1: I had to explain that to my home insurance, my
Speaker 1: homeowner insurance people that tried to charge me more for
Speaker 1: being at risk. Wow, you know what I mean when
Speaker 1: you're just like, are you fucking you know? I had
Speaker 1: a moment the other day where my child's mother, Bailey.
Speaker 1: Bailey's mother's Felicia, and she's sober now. She was hooked
Speaker 1: on heroin for a while. I'm proud of she's sober,
Speaker 1: and me and the wife do everything we can't help her.
Speaker 1: Custody of your daughter, we still do full custody, Yes,
Speaker 1: I still do. Me and my wife. My wife made
Speaker 1: all that happen. Bunny and her really close, Bunny and Felicia,
Speaker 1: Bailey's mother, And she calls us and goes, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to move closer to Bailey. I'm a felon. Can
Speaker 1: you get us a place? Can I put a place
Speaker 1: in your name? And I don't think twice. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I got you, dude, I got whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll go fuck send an application. I feel that out
Speaker 1: right now. I forgot I'm a felon, so it fucking
Speaker 1: fires back on me. And then she can't get there.
Speaker 1: Now we're doubled down in fuck, so we gotta find
Speaker 1: a new place and put it in Bunny's name, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like I've been I haven't
Speaker 1: been on the lease of any house that I didn't
Speaker 1: own ever. You know what's crazy is when me and
Speaker 1: my wife first moved to Cali, I had a misdemeanor
Speaker 1: and she had some duy shit right, And you would
Speaker 1: have thought that we were murderers the way people were
Speaker 1: like denying our fucking are our shit? Like it was
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Yeah, No, for sure, it's crazy. No,
Speaker 1: it's fucking our system is fucked in so many ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like if you're a felon, it's almost
Speaker 1: like having a like the scarlet letter in society. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like you really really almost as like
Speaker 1: impossible for you to really have like a normal fucking life.
Speaker 1: You really need help from other people to like get
Speaker 1: shipped or to like appreciate someone to take a chance,
Speaker 1: give you an opportunit unity getting good jobs. Do you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy is that I couldn't be in the
Speaker 1: medical field if I wanted to. There's like four or
Speaker 1: five industries that just wept. Even if you get the
Speaker 1: job and maybe you want to be a supervisor manager,
Speaker 1: you can't. No, there's a wall. Even if there's jobs
Speaker 1: that'll let you get there, it's like, no, we just
Speaker 1: move because they look at you. You're a felon. No,
Speaker 1: it's fucking It's as wrong as it can be. It's sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's some broken ship man. Yeah, Like there's
Speaker 1: like no forgiveness, like no societal forgiveness. I get it
Speaker 1: if you like fucking you know, are a fucking creep
Speaker 1: or you did some but like I say it all
Speaker 1: the time, I think fucking pedophile should be shot on
Speaker 1: National TV every Friday for our enjoyment. It's a great
Speaker 1: I think they should tell us a story. They should
Speaker 1: show us the family's pain. They should show us the
Speaker 1: weirdo and we should get to watch them be headed
Speaker 1: that we should have it. We should. They should sell
Speaker 1: it like pay per views and then give that money
Speaker 1: to the family. Watch every Friday. I'd pay every Friday.
Speaker 1: They get twenty bucks out of me every Friday to
Speaker 1: watch them. They had a pedophile, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If it went like you know, I trust me,
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not you know, I'm just on
Speaker 1: the justice reform as far as like the decision there
Speaker 1: of course, especially if you do some stupid shit as
Speaker 1: a kid, for sure. Yeah, it's like, come on, dude,
Speaker 1: if you stay, I think if you give me an opportunity,
Speaker 1: opportunity to restitute it out, Like let me go give
Speaker 1: these dudes whatever they think they lost times fifty and
Speaker 1: then square it up with these dudes that were we
Speaker 1: robbed twenty two years ago, and then let me, you know,
Speaker 1: like make me. I don't care if I have to
Speaker 1: work for it, just give me a fucking option. Like
Speaker 1: just don't say no, man, it's hard state policy. You
Speaker 1: get zero forgiveness for that, or like if you're out
Speaker 1: of the system long enough, like it doesn't show up,
Speaker 1: or I don't know for sure something where Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just whatever, So what is next? Obviously, Jimmy Kimmel is
Speaker 1: a big deal. I'm sure you're excited for that, But
Speaker 1: what about just in terms of I know you for
Speaker 1: a while, where are you technically independent? Are you still situation?
Speaker 1: So I have a deal with Broken Bowl Records, which
Speaker 1: is BMG, which I looked up that Dicky Black and
Speaker 1: thought about that, and uh, it's it is a deal.
Speaker 1: But I did maintain ownership of my master's which is huge.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. It's the deal is incredible and
Speaker 1: the deal is so incredible that I'm not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk about it. But the deal is incredible. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's a great deal. I'm happy, and I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot of people in record deals that are happy.
Speaker 1: Most people aren't. Yeah, And I've been completely independent my
Speaker 1: whole career, so I know the other side of that happiness,
Speaker 1: and I'm happier now. You know. They've they've they've done
Speaker 1: everything they said they were going to do times too.
Speaker 1: I think they're worth every penny we pay them. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I just I am in love with this deal.
Speaker 1: And is there going to be a big are you
Speaker 1: going to be announcement tour anytime? Now? You know, we're
Speaker 1: to know I'm shining down later this year. I got
Speaker 1: a bunch of Brandley Gilbert dates. We're like on the
Speaker 1: road NonStop still, and I know you're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of shows in Florida Thursday and Friday of this week.
Speaker 1: I'll literally fly straight from you know Burke Price's podcast
Speaker 1: to go do a show is the plan. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do over one hundred shows this year. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: announce a big next year. It will be a big,
Speaker 1: proper tour for me though. It'll be like your headlining,
Speaker 1: your big headlining. I mean, obviously you've had a bunch
Speaker 1: of headlining tours, but this would be like the headlining tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Because what is like if you were
Speaker 1: to get booked, like what do you what do you say?
Speaker 1: Is like your average cap like it for a solo
Speaker 1: jelly roll show? If someone books you five to twelve thousand,
Speaker 1: now fucking crazy man. Yeah for sure, few markets we
Speaker 1: might still play thirty five and fours, but that's so big.
Speaker 1: I suspect that if we don't play the UH. I
Speaker 1: suspect that we'll either play the Honda Center when we
Speaker 1: come back, or we'll play the Palladium two nights in
Speaker 1: a row. That's my guess. That's my guess. Now that's fire.
Speaker 1: It's my guess. That's my it's my hope. God willing
Speaker 1: we go straight to the Hollywood Bowl or something next summer.
Speaker 1: How's La as a market for you. I'm anxious to see,
Speaker 1: because La is an interesting I don't come out here enough,
Speaker 1: but I do know that, like northern California, Cali Country
Speaker 1: is a big market for me, that's for sure. We're
Speaker 1: doing Aftershock this year in Sacramento, oh shit, the Rock Festival,
Speaker 1: so that'll be huge. Hopefully that'll bring some ass. I
Speaker 1: just don't come out here enough. Yeah, you don't, man,
Speaker 1: it's been a while. It's rough, man. It's a big
Speaker 1: travel dude. It is a hike. Yeah, it's a big
Speaker 1: tras five hours for yeah, about four hours and forty
Speaker 1: five minutes in the air. It was rough. Your first class, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta get that first class. Yeah. I mean I'm
Speaker 1: too fat to sit anywhere else on that bland today
Speaker 1: that much? Did they charge you twice if I had
Speaker 1: to get two seats? If I do it any other way? Oh, really,
Speaker 1: I don't have to, but I do just because I
Speaker 1: respect you know. I don't want nobody pushed up on
Speaker 1: me neither. Yeah, no matter what, you got a stranger
Speaker 1: cuddling on your left and r Yeah, it's like either way,
Speaker 1: I want to be as comfortable as possible. I just
Speaker 1: don't like the concept of flying anyways, which is why
Speaker 1: I got just blackout drunk today doing it. It's just
Speaker 1: a weird fucking thing to me. The worst is when
Speaker 1: you eat inedible and a going on a flight thinking
Speaker 1: that it's going to like help you go to sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm playing the Hotness Center this year, by the way.
Speaker 1: You gotta come out, oh for men, shine down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing a big spot in San Diego to summer.
Speaker 1: I look at the dates, but we got a lot
Speaker 1: of shit coming right around here. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: a we ate an edible on a plane and freak
Speaker 1: the fuck out. I have to eat an edible and
Speaker 1: freak the fuck out once a week moment. Planes not planes,
Speaker 1: just where I just overserve myself you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying where there is a thin line, because like even this,
Speaker 1: I can eat these, and if I eat too many,
Speaker 1: it'll get wild. But I know, you know, I can
Speaker 1: kind of like a little crazier than shrooms. If you
Speaker 1: eat too you eat too much, I'm it gets fucking weird.
Speaker 1: It's all anxiety, and it almost like you can't do anything.
Speaker 1: No fuck no, like paralyz. Listen, man, it turns into
Speaker 1: a psychedelic spiritual experience fast. Did I eat some Rick
Speaker 1: Simpson oil pills the other day? Did we talk about
Speaker 1: it on the phone. This is a great story too.
Speaker 1: I come home really drunk and the wife's out of town,
Speaker 1: and I hop on the game I'm playing, like Call
Speaker 1: of Duty or something at like five in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I had a Rick Simpson oil peel like Rso
Speaker 1: I take it. I don't think nothing of it. I'm
Speaker 1: so drunk I forgot I took it. So I look
Speaker 1: over and I take another one. Thirty minutes later, I'm
Speaker 1: so lit, I take a third one. I only know
Speaker 1: the number because I had four and I woke up
Speaker 1: with one. So this is me, assuming, this is me,
Speaker 1: like reverse engineering, how my night went south? Right? Right.
Speaker 1: At one point, my niece comes and wakes me up
Speaker 1: on the couch. I'm asleep with a controller in my hand.
Speaker 1: The sun is blaring through the house at seven forty
Speaker 1: five in the morning. I'm shirtless, sockless, and in my boxers.
Speaker 1: Imagine that look. And she wakes me up and goes, hey,
Speaker 1: are you gonna go to bed? And I stumbled to
Speaker 1: the bed and I fall asleep sitting up in the
Speaker 1: bed watching Family Guy like Back to the Thing for
Speaker 1: ten hours. keV and I woke up with the worst
Speaker 1: anxiety I've ever woke up with. I felt like my
Speaker 1: body was vibrating. Everything about it was wrong. I took
Speaker 1: like the Adam Sandler longest pitchmer that Adam Sandler City
Speaker 1: the world's longest. I mean, I pissed for like three
Speaker 1: minutes straight. It felt like I pissed for so long.
Speaker 1: I stopped and sat down. I was tired of standing
Speaker 1: up trying to piss. My body was vibrating. I had
Speaker 1: the worst anxiety of my life the entire next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eating wheat is I just had a bad experience about
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Bro And I don't know if I
Speaker 1: could ever. I don't know man, my worst nights of
Speaker 1: my life have been too much edibles. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: could eat a lot of shrooms and like, I'll fucking
Speaker 1: it'll be out there, but I'll ground myself. Yeah. Eating
Speaker 1: wheat is dangerous, man. And it's not even the same
Speaker 1: thing as smoking, it's not even close. It's you feel
Speaker 1: that stomach churn and you know you fucked up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel it in your gut and you're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this ain't it man, this is fixation. And you can
Speaker 1: also hallucinate. Yes, I've hallucinated. Yeah. I the worst time
Speaker 1: I've ever had. I ate a cake pop on my
Speaker 1: way to yellowf and Ritz's show in Phoenix. And this
Speaker 1: was like twenty thirteen, twelve something like that, and uh,
Speaker 1: I was like new to eating weed, so I didn't
Speaker 1: know anything about it. So I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a cake pop, so the whole thing, I guess. I
Speaker 1: was also a quarter of it. Oh yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like one hundred milligrams. I fucked up. How they do
Speaker 1: that to you? They give you two hundred milligrams and
Speaker 1: something this big and they're like, just eat a sweather out.
Speaker 1: So I didn't. Yeah, So I didn't think much of it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I interviewed Ritz on the bus and
Speaker 1: they didn't hit me right. And then he was going
Speaker 1: to go on stage and I was in the crowd
Speaker 1: and it hit me like a ton of bricks at once,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't move my legs. I was stuck in
Speaker 1: a standing position, and I bro, I could have you
Speaker 1: ever been so high in a place with a bunch
Speaker 1: of people where you could look across the room full
Speaker 1: of thousands of people and hone in on someone's conversation, Yes,
Speaker 1: from very far away. Yes. So I felt like fucking
Speaker 1: I had like superpowers. And then I look on stage
Speaker 1: and Rich is performing and Garfield the cat is the
Speaker 1: cartoons up there with like slot machine dollar signed eyes
Speaker 1: going and I was just like my boy g O
Speaker 1: was with me, and I was like, bro, do you
Speaker 1: see the cat on stage? And I couldn't move. I
Speaker 1: was stuck, and then I was puking everywhere. And then
Speaker 1: everything that could have happened what was the name of
Speaker 1: a Wolf's uh fucking extremely aggressive road manager Brooklyn. So
Speaker 1: I'm like on the side of the stage, fucking tripping
Speaker 1: the fuck out all the random crazy shit that could
Speaker 1: happen in front of somebody who was tripping. Happened this dude,
Speaker 1: Brooklyn pulled some dude off from the crowd, drags into
Speaker 1: the side. He's two feet away from its beating the
Speaker 1: shit out of this fucking guy. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: was crazy. Yeah, No, Brooklyn was fucking wild and he
Speaker 1: didn't look like he was wild and wild boy. He
Speaker 1: was an aggressive, normal looking guy, Yes, sir, just fucking
Speaker 1: did not look like all the fucking time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what you gotta Obviously you got music out now,
Speaker 1: but what's like, what's coming the rest of the year. Oh, dude,
Speaker 1: speaking of Brooklyn side and I got Bobby straight Edge
Speaker 1: on tour. Me now shot to Bobby, good guy straight
Speaker 1: Edge out there. It's been awesome. His first weekend was
Speaker 1: last weekend. It was incredible. Yeah, he's good to have
Speaker 1: the homie back because he just did the Tech Tour. Two.
Speaker 1: He's road managing one of our buses. Dude, I'm cooking.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a I got, you know, probably
Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty songs on my phone that I feel
Speaker 1: great about. I mean, you know, how typical songwriter. I
Speaker 1: got a hundred songs in my phone. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: the collaboration opportunities are getting bigger for you too, they are,
Speaker 1: And I'm really really kind of reaching out for what
Speaker 1: i want to do and I'm just taking. You know,
Speaker 1: what I'm doing with this album, I've never done. I'm
Speaker 1: kettle cooking it. It's a low cook. First, dude's in
Speaker 1: the kettle pot. I'm not putting this one on a
Speaker 1: skillet at this one. And the smoker this ain't on
Speaker 1: the grill, you know what I mean. When I pulled
Speaker 1: this one, I was gonna fall off the b own baby,
Speaker 1: And that's my goal, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna really I'm like obsessing about songs, like obsessing about them.
Speaker 1: So has the the country industry is a very it
Speaker 1: feels like there's they're very like it's like this, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: have they embraced you so far? So good man? You know,
Speaker 1: it really helped me. Like it's some good old boys
Speaker 1: club type shit kind of there's some good old boy
Speaker 1: club shit there. There's some gatekeepers, but it's like, I
Speaker 1: think the country music has been missing what we bring
Speaker 1: to it. And that's what I was telling the Struggle
Speaker 1: the other day because we're kind of working on a
Speaker 1: country record with him, Well, he's working on the country record.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk him and to put it out.
Speaker 1: But they haven't had the kind of like raw authenticity
Speaker 1: and outlaws shit that we bring the country music the
Speaker 1: seventies seventies. They've had versions of it, like My Boy
Speaker 1: Brantley Gilbert that came in the early two thousands, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's like they haven't had it in so long
Speaker 1: and like really authentic, right, you know, like somebody who
Speaker 1: just doesn't give a fuck, you know. And it's like
Speaker 1: and they know I'm a good dude, like at heart,
Speaker 1: they know the story, you know, my parenting, my my relationships.
Speaker 1: People that have been around me forever know that I'm
Speaker 1: not a bad human. But they also know that I'm
Speaker 1: a bit of a wild card and don't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: and they love they kind of love it. They love
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a clip that's gonna come out
Speaker 1: of this podcast where I'm talking about my pecker smelling bad. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like you know what I mean, Like where traditionally
Speaker 1: it'd be like there'd be a publicist in a room
Speaker 1: in country interview, like what the fuck cut it right now?
Speaker 1: I want to watch you delete that part where they
Speaker 1: just kind of know that I'm always going to be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a loose cannon. And that's credit
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Loba, the head of Broken Bowl Records, the president.
Speaker 1: You'll meet him this week, and I can't wait for
Speaker 1: you to meet him. But Loba's got my back. He's like, look, man,
Speaker 1: we know we're not mistaken with who we signed. So
Speaker 1: every now and then somebody will kind of ruffle some
Speaker 1: feathers about something I say that's wild and Lobo will
Speaker 1: just be like, look, that's all guy, we knew, we know,
Speaker 1: we knew, we know, Ja, you're not a robot bro
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't start the interview with
Speaker 1: what I grew up in a town with three hundred
Speaker 1: people right outside of you know. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: the country ship this is so overly packaged, feels very
Speaker 1: like like like like everything is so on purpose and
Speaker 1: so like unorganic. It's like, well, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people. It's changing now because country
Speaker 1: music radio is getting bold and not afraid, which is awesome,
Speaker 1: but there was a long time where it was packaged,
Speaker 1: right like find a guy who has the right look,
Speaker 1: decent voice, hook him up with hit songwriter, hook him
Speaker 1: up with a hit producer, hook him up with stylists,
Speaker 1: dress him a certain way, give them media training, send
Speaker 1: him on a radio tour the Nashville version of K pop, right,
Speaker 1: and then you send him on a media tour and
Speaker 1: then insert big record here. You know. So, I feel
Speaker 1: a lot of those country guys come and go yeah, yeah, one,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, like well, it's also weird because country
Speaker 1: music is another genre like other genres, where you'll have
Speaker 1: a dude who will have three or four number one
Speaker 1: records that can't sell out the triba door and knows
Speaker 1: what the he looks like, clueless and Kate's literally put
Speaker 1: him on the radio like, Hey, your guy who sung
Speaker 1: you these five songs in the last two years. They
Speaker 1: love you, They know who the fuck you are. That's
Speaker 1: the same shit with the rap shit. That's why I
Speaker 1: tell people, I'm like yo, Like, dude, just because you
Speaker 1: got hits don't mean people. What really tells you is
Speaker 1: how are your herd tickets? Can you make people care?
Speaker 1: Can you make people give a fuck about you enough
Speaker 1: to where they'll spend harder and money to come see
Speaker 1: perform your art and it's important that you take that
Speaker 1: money serious. Right, It's like, you know what I think
Speaker 1: about before I do shows. I look at the line
Speaker 1: Every night a while, I go do a video, and
Speaker 1: I think about how much of a pain in the
Speaker 1: ass it is for me and my wife to have
Speaker 1: a date night. M M right, Like, how hard is
Speaker 1: it for you and your wife to have some all time?
Speaker 1: It is tough, right, it is tough, so busy, so
Speaker 1: much shit going on. So think about you went out
Speaker 1: of your way to make this night happen, Like this
Speaker 1: is your date night, this is your ship, Like you're
Speaker 1: here to have a great time, and I can't, baby,
Speaker 1: this is it. This might be the highlight of the year.
Speaker 1: This might be the only time y'all got a babysitter
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, filled the car up, put on
Speaker 1: your best outfit. I imagine her ordering clothes. I imagine
Speaker 1: her standing in the mirror, curling her hair. I imagine
Speaker 1: him sitting on a couchul wish in that bitch with hurry.
Speaker 1: I imagine all these scenarios I've been in. You know,
Speaker 1: I think deliver I think about that. I literally like
Speaker 1: obsess about that thought. I think about the dude who
Speaker 1: saved the money to get the ticket and then saved
Speaker 1: a little extra cash for some beer. And some merchant
Speaker 1: didn't tell his old girl, so she thinks they're on
Speaker 1: a strict budget. He walks in with a little little
Speaker 1: chunk on him. She don't know he's got baby, I've
Speaker 1: got a little extra bread. Let's check us out, grab
Speaker 1: your shirt, let's go get some. We're gonna drink all night.
Speaker 1: Fuck it now, we don't want the cheat beer. Get us,
Speaker 1: get us a butt light. Approach it that way. They're entitled. Man,
Speaker 1: I just look at it like, man, that's corract because
Speaker 1: I know how much of a pain in that, and
Speaker 1: I'm financially stable, and I know how hard it is
Speaker 1: for me and my wife to just make a night.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine, you know, think about the man.
Speaker 1: You know how many this dude had to go argue
Speaker 1: with his He had to go bow and kiss the
Speaker 1: ring of his in law for a babysitter, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He had to go sit down with
Speaker 1: the mother in law he hates and go, hey, I
Speaker 1: really really need to night. I've got a chance to
Speaker 1: go see this jelly roll guy a couple hours up
Speaker 1: the street. I got a hotel room, can you please?
Speaker 1: And the fucking mother in law's got a list of demands.
Speaker 1: He's got to cut her grass or some weird shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know, I know what's happening.
Speaker 1: So I think about that ship before I do a
Speaker 1: show every night. That shit's crazy. Most artist should have
Speaker 1: that approach, man, Yeah, I think about that in every aspect.
Speaker 1: All right, So Troubadour this week, Truba Door tomorrow, tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we're going all the time this comes out, the show
Speaker 1: would already. Yeah, there'll be clips out on your Instagram.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, that's out. Go watch big tour, Big Tour
Speaker 1: putting out. I'll probably drop an album this year November.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing album November. Yeah, I'll be rapping on there.
Speaker 1: I got a rap project i'm working on too. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drop another rap project like strictly not like a
Speaker 1: better reminder roots. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Every now and
Speaker 1: then you did reestyle. I feel like it was it
Speaker 1: last year or two years. About a year ago, I
Speaker 1: was still doing it. I thought I was gonna spit here,
Speaker 1: but you never hit me. Don't don't tell me, you tweeted,
Speaker 1: me about spitting, because I'd have came ready to spit.
Speaker 1: I probably still spit. Really, hold on, let me just
Speaker 1: show you what I tweeted you. Hold on jelly roll
Speaker 1: six one five, I said, hold on, where's it at?
Speaker 1: Someone tell jelly Roll have some bars from my show
Speaker 1: on his trip to La and June. Oh god, if
Speaker 1: i'd have seen that, I was I was joking with
Speaker 1: My wife asked me specifically. She was like, she was like,
Speaker 1: are you gonna go spit? I was like, oh my god, Papa,
Speaker 1: You're verified on here right, not on Twitter. I'm on
Speaker 1: we gotta figure that out on Instagram, I am. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to get verified on Twitter. I figured
Speaker 1: it out. I feel like it just happens. We missed
Speaker 1: out on that one. I'm in town a couple of days. Well, listen, man,
Speaker 1: proud of you, buddy. What playing all right? Pull up
Speaker 1: a beat. I'm super proud of you though. I love you, man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having I've been wanting to do this, I mean,
Speaker 1: the lot of you. Let me come in here and
Speaker 1: talk about ship I never talked about and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: just happy for you. Man. You're a great guy and
Speaker 1: I'm glad the whole world is finally catching on my
Speaker 1: g let's go bootleg camp, bitch,