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425
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: it was just tongue in cheek. I said, the only

426
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: place for women will be in the bedroom in the kitchen.

427
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that I get heat. I said, there's

428
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: two places for women and they are the bedroom in

429
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: the kitchen. And oh the heat that I got on

430
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: that you couldn't believe. Well, now, yeah, as you forget

431
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: about it, it's it's all over. Turnout the lights, the

432
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 1: party's over on that. Yeah. The have you talked to

433
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brennaman since saw that went to Tom? I talked

434
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: to him last week, last Thursday week, a week ago,

435
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he seems to be doing all right,

436
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: but I'm sure, I'm sure his heart's broken. You know.

437
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 1: I can imagine going to bed at night, looking at

438
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: the ceiling and say, what happened to me? What happened

439
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: to my life? He was great and he's a good guy.

440
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: I think I think he was done wrong and hopefully

441
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: one day he gets back in. I mean, I think

442
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: everybody deserves a second chance. I don't think he's an

443
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: evil person. I really don't. Yeah, and I don't know

444
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: the rules because I haven't been able to keep track,

445
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: like when you cancel somebody, and and obviously Tom Brennan

446
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: was canceled, Like what's the statue of limitations on that?

447
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: When does that run out? But the problem is now,

448
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, there's so many people in

449
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: society today, Andy that are like I want to I

450
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: got you, you know, got you and all this stuff.

451
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: So if Tom Brendon, let's say he was up for

452
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: a play by play job somewhere, even if the Reds

453
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: wanted to hire him back, there would be groups out

454
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: protesting right there be you know, backlash. I don't even

455
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: know if it's real or not because it's social media, right,

456
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of it's really how much

457
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: of it's fake, But you'd have to deal with that,

458
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: and you know better than anybody, and because you worked

459
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: around professional sports, you've been around longer than I have

460
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: that the one thing these teams don't want is negative publicity, right,

461
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: So any kind of negative stories to get out. If

462
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: you were to hire a guy like that, there's just like,

463
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: it's not worth our trouble, which sucks to shift. That's

464
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: the key. Also, because you'll hire a bell like that,

465
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: every sponsor is gonna say, you know when, we're not

466
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna buy a time when your station, We're not gonna

467
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: sponse to the team, whatever it may be. But you

468
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: would just love, in this day and age to see

469
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: an owner of one team with a pair of onions

470
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: to get out there and say you know what, I'm here,

471
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm bringing them back. You may not like it, but

472
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: everybody in life deserves a second chance. And look at

473
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror, because I'm sure you screwed up

474
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: once in a while and you got a second chance.

475
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: We're bringing them back. Boom. But I don't think you

476
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I don't think that owner exists today.

477
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm you're you're describing like Al Davis or build

478
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: Beck built that biboard, Bill veck uh, but like Steinburn

479
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: or somebody along that the owners today, you know this,

480
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: some of the guys kind of get it, but they

481
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: don't there if everyone's afraid of the same the same

482
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: boogeyman is is what I'm trying to say. And Yeah,

483
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: the one person in sports that I think would be

484
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: willing to do that would be Dana White at the UFC.

485
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Like Dana White seems like the kind of guy that

486
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: US doesn't give a damn and he would he doesn't

487
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: care about that stuff. He would be willing to to

488
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: cross over the cancel culture and all that and and

489
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: hire a guy like Tom Brendon. Don't Brennavan wants to

490
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: do UFC stuff. But that's that would be a path

491
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: where I could see something like that working out. You know,

492
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm just in the top of my head off any

493
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: own or any major sport that would do something that

494
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: I can't. You know what about the owner of the Clippers,

495
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: he seems to be a bit of a maverick Steve. Yeah,

496
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: you know he is. But he's also you know, he's

497
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: kind of in the NBA world. You gotta be in

498
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: lockstep there, So he's not uh, he's not crossing the line.

499
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: He is building this great arena. Though. Next time you're

500
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: in town, Andy, next time you're in l A, the

501
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: Intuit Dome, which is right right near a near Sofi

502
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Stadium where they piled they played the Super Bowl. You

503
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: gotta see the Sofi Stadium. Oh my Goddy, this is

504
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: a put you don't want if I had a choice

505
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 1: to see Sofi Stadium, but go to Langers Delhi. I'm

506
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: going to Landers Delhi. All right, Well, I agree with you?

507
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: Is that. Look, you're a true you're true mench Langers

508
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: Deli people. A lot of people visit that, drawing me

509
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: on ride with a Sala pickle, and I thought that

510
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: Brown's cream soda. There's nothing better. It's great. Now, you

511
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: gotta go early in the day because they're not they're

512
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: only open till four o'clock Lingers Deli in l A.

513
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be there after four o'clock. Andy,

514
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: You don't, and you don't want to make a wrong turn.

515
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to go across the street there to

516
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: MacArthur Park, because that is that is like hell on Earth,

517
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: Sodom and Gomorrah. I think they are right there across

518
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: the street. Well, I'm glad you chose Langers, and not

519
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: that Cancer's Delhi is bad. But Langers is you're a

520
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: New York guy, It's better than most of if not all.

521
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: I like cats As Deli in New York. That's my

522
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: go to Delhi when I go to her, but it's

523
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: very expensive and uh and all that. But I do

524
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: enjoy cats Is Deli, But Langers in l A is insane.

525
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: And so I don't know how I'm gonna take it

526
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: to one if you come to the Midwest. Okay, I

527
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: thought one if you close your eyes, is very very

528
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: close to Langers and Catses should year olds Delhi in Indianapolis. Okay,

529
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: So if I mean that's that's the same type of

530
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: that Pastrami's the die for it Languge. So it's a

531
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: similar type of Shapiro's is unreal? It really is? Is that? Now?

532
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: What are your top? What's your one? In New York? You?

533
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: How can you go back to New York? Do you

534
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: have a Catches? Catches New York line shapiros and in

535
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati we got is He's is the one. Okay. So

536
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: it's a very important information because I need soul food

537
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: when I need when I'm seriously pastrami, salmon, matzo ball soup. Yeah,

538
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: that's he has the potato pancakes too. That's not a

539
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: bad That's not a bad move either. Not a bad

540
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: move either. Oh, I got a time. I'm excited to

541
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: pass on it. For the first time. I've been sports

542
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: radio a long time. For the first time ever, they

543
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: allowed me to go to Radio Row last week for

544
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the super I've never been to radio or I assume

545
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: you've been there many times over the years, right, doing

546
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: your only only twicely? Okay, yeah, all right, what was

547
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: your experience like? Did you did you enjoy Yeah? I

548
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But it comes out as a as a

549
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: place where people just hawk their wares and you know,

550
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: you see it. Another figure that did Vermeil showed up

551
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: and he just got in done into the Hall of Fame,

552
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: which is great. And he showed up and I'm saying

553
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: to myself, why is he here? He has something to

554
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: do with the game. He's not coaching, but he was

555
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: selling wine. He has a venue and he was selling one.

556
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: But it was great, you know, but he comes down there,

557
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: talks about his wine and his video. But then we

558
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: talked football a little bit, but it was just crazy.

559
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: It's one after another. And don't little think that Cam

560
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: Newton showed up in h I think it was in

561
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans when I was there, and we talked about

562
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: social media and at the time, I'm sure it's not

563
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: true now. At the time he said he didn't believe

564
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: in social media and he didn't have any social media

565
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: accounts whatsoever. So some of the stories were great and

566
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: they stuck with you. You know, you never a loss

567
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: for a guest because they're coming in and draws. Really

568
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: it's like a herd. They're coming one after another. But

569
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: it's great and you gotta be on your toes a

570
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: little bit because you don't know what you're gonna talk

571
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: about when you see these guys. But you know, it's

572
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of fun and it's a it's a unique score.

573
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: If you've never been there. Yeah, I know, I've never

574
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: been there. I didn't really know what to expect. It's

575
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: not I was told by the people that are there

576
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: every year. It was not the same. Because of the

577
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: California COVID rules and all that, there were not as

578
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: many media people as there are normally, but it was

579
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: it reminded me like a boardwalk situation. And then they

580
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: were you know, people screaming, hey, they're selling weight loss

581
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: products or you name it as you said, whine, all

582
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: kinds of nonsense. And the amount of people that are

583
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: around these former athletes that always blows me away. Andy.

584
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: These guys have like posses of people that are leading

585
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: them through and the the whole entourage. Uh, the only Yeah,

586
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: that's why athletes are broke five years after they retire.

587
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: It goes to the posses. Yeah. But the only radio

588
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: guy I saw that had a posse was Pat McAfee.

589
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: But he's got a hundred million dollars eighties, so I

590
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: think he's he's doing okay, I think he can forward.

591
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, what about the Mala militias. They should have

592
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: been there. Oh no, where the Malay See. Let me

593
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: tell you how the mallema works outside of when I

594
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: was walking to Radio Row uh, and I parked far

595
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: away because you know, I'm very frugal, like the people

596
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: that run the Bengals there. I like to hold on

597
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: my money. So they were. They were price gounging everyone

598
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: around Radio Row at the l A Convention Center. So

599
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: I parked a couple of miles away from the convention

600
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: center and I'm walking through the mean streets of l A.

601
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Which they cleaned up by the way, Andy, because the

602
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: super Bowl obviously was there, so they took a lot

603
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: of the homeless and they just stooped them. I don't

604
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: know where they put them, but they moved them. I'm

605
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: sure they're back now because the super Bowl is over.

606
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: But but anyway, so the point of story, So I'm

607
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: walking through and I run into one of my callers,

608
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Helmet Man, the guy known as helmet Man. He's out

609
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: selling shirts and helmet you know, he buys stuff from

610
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: like Goodwill and then he tries to turn it around

611
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: and sell it and make money on the street. I

612
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: ran into him. I had not seen him in like

613
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: two years. I thought he had died, Andy, and there

614
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: he was. And that's my guy. That's the Mallard Militia. Andy.

615
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: They're not inside. And I like the guy the one

616
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: when I do listen because it's on a little late

617
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: at night for me. He on the East coast. But

618
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: I do listen once in a while. You have the

619
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: guy you put them on and you hear him snoring. Oh, yes, yes,

620
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about hollering James. Yes, he is the

621
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: most prolific snorer in is in my career. Maybe you

622
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: had something because you do you did primetime shows, Andy,

623
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: I I do live late night, so I got more

624
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: of the people. But this guy holler and James, he's

625
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: your great overnight sports talk radio caller because he really

626
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: has nothing to say. He just wants to be on

627
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: the air, and he falls asleep literally two out of

628
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: every three times he calls the show. And you will

629
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: appreciate this, Andy, as a fellow radio professional. One of

630
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: the greatest bits I ever did with Hollereen James. We

631
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: were playing a game show it was too much or

632
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: not enough, and this is a couple of years ago,

633
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: and he fell asleep and he was supposed to play

634
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: the game. So we had him play the game anyway

635
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: based on if he snored, the answer was too much.

636
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: If he didn't store it was not enough. He won

637
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: the game. Maybe he won the game show fast asleep

638
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: And it was the most amazing, surreal experience. It was

639
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: crazy and I should have won the Marconi for that,

640
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: but somehow I did not get a single vote. Can

641
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: you believe that? Andy? It's insane? You know you've been

642
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: doing the overnight you know, for a while. Are you

643
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: amazed how many people are up at that hour and

644
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: call you? Because I'm on now at six am Sunday

645
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: Eastern time and we opened the phones and still we're

646
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: getting calls. I mean most of the calls probably from

647
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: the West Coast, which is like three am. What are

648
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: they doing up? They're coming back from the bars? Is

649
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: that what it is? Yeah? No, I I completely am shot.

650
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted. I've been doing a while now. I even

651
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: did Super Bowl shows for years. I would do shows

652
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: with Looney or Eddie on Super Bowl Sunday during the

653
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: gaming during the Super Bowl, and we'd open up the

654
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: phone calls at halftime to open up the lines for

655
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: phone calls, and we'd have full banks of calls during

656
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl on a sports talk radio station when

657
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: plausibly everyone should be consuming the Super Bowl and not

658
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio for those three and a

659
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: half hours, And yet there were people that love Fox

660
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio would turn down the TV and listen to

661
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: to the radio, so and it's, uh, it's great. How's

662
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: the show going, By the way, on the weekends, everything

663
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: going all right? On that you're going, it's going and

664
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: maybe going and maybe gone. It's going going gone, now

665
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: it's going. I think he's doing all right. I mean,

666
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as those odd this business, no

667
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: news is good news. So we're going. Yeah, there's only

668
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm on the list every week on the on the

669
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: list that the shows are on, and my name is there,

670
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: so I figured it's good. You know, my name is

671
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: not there. I gotta worry. But you know, things things

672
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: are good. You know, you wrote from one about you

673
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: know why people call talk shows, And there's most of

674
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: the people that call up either they're entertaining, but they

675
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: don't really add a lot, you know, but it's kind

676
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: of fun you play with them. I think they're auditioning.

677
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: I think that's the key. They think that they could

678
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: do it, and they probably could, I guess, so good.

679
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: But I think that's why they called. They were auditioning

680
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: to be on the radio. Yeah, Like I've noticed, there's

681
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: like four or five types of people that call the show.

682
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that just think they're entertaining,

683
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: which is fine, right. They want to they want to

684
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: be heard. There's there's I like the insider guy, the

685
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: guy that calls up and he probably got this a

686
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: lot when you're doing the afternoon show back in Cincinnati

687
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: back in the day. That the guy that calls up

688
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: that overheard something at the barber shop. Yeah yeah, yeah,

689
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. The guy who knows I heard from a sword. Well,

690
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: who I know? A friend of mine told me or whatever. Yeah,

691
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: my my friends barber's gardener happens to know the owner

692
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: of the Bengals and told me that X, Y and

693
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: Z is guy. I was at the gas stage and

694
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: I saw I saw Mike Brown or the guy that

695
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: calls up said, you know what I saw? I saw

696
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's house and there's a for sales side in

697
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: front of it. I think he's being traded. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

698
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. I like that guy, like the insider guy.

699
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Then there's the guy that calls up to try to

700
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: correct you because they think you're wrong, so they want

701
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: to touch up your work, right, They say, well you

702
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: didn't get that right They and as you said, the

703
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: people are listening. There's a certain percentage of people that

704
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: listen to these radio shows just waiting. I had, I

705
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: had a programm break. You tell me this, they said, Ben.

706
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: If you know, if if you're doing the show and

707
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: you're taking calls and nobody's calling and make a mistake,

708
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing the radio listener loves more then calling up

709
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and correcting the person on the air. Am I not?

710
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: Am I not right? Andy? Is that not? And people, yeah,

711
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: that's what That's why A lot of times and five

712
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: ball on the radio and it was Wednesday as welcome,

713
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: what a great Tuesday this is, And then everybody calls up, No,

714
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: it's true. I I you know. You know Rick, he's right,

715
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: the radio guy in l A years ago. Maybe you don't,

716
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: but Rick was a legend in l A radio. Ricky's

717
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: he did a Top forty countdown show and he had

718
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: a TV show. And and Rick, when I started in

719
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: the business, I was doing a midday show. I started

720
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: in l A. And Rick was still doing mornings at

721
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: this Kiss FM, this big top forty station which is

722
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: still huge in l A. And Rick, they's nicest guy

723
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: in the world, I mean, the Hall of Fame radio guy.

724
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: And he would record because he did a morning show Andy,

725
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: so he would record like the first hour because he

726
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: didn't want to get up for the five am hour,

727
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: so he would record that hour when he got done.

728
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: And he pulled me aside, and this guy Dave I

729
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: was working with the time, and he gave us a

730
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: great piece of advice and I don't I don't record

731
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: stuff because you know, do it live. Rado. Obviously this

732
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: is a podcast, so it's recorded. But uh, he said, listen,

733
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: He said, when you're doing a taped like a show

734
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: for radio, make mistakes. He said, because the listener doesn't

735
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: he they won't realize it's tape because they'll think if

736
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: it was taped, you wouldn't make a mistake. The good points, right,

737
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, because you edited out in post production. But

738
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: he said, no, you leave some mistakes in there because

739
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: the people will assume that it's real, it's live. And

740
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: so I thought it was. That was wonderful like a

741
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: radio I have no problem with that. Then mistake, but

742
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: you never make a mistake with the United States Postal Service.

743
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: You are a legendary. I can't I read on before

744
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: and I got a story, good, good, good. I need

745
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: a story. Give me a story. I need a story,

746
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: give me a story, Okay. I got to the post office,

747
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: Offen good my mail, okay, And I know it's Over

748
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: the years, they've had a lot of stamps named after

749
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: sports figures. I think Muhammad Ali has a stamp. The

750
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: most recent one. Yogi Barra has one. Jackie Robinson as

751
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: a stamp. I wrote a letter to the Post nacy

752
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: in general this stout two three months ago that they

753
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: should und stand for the late Joe Knoxtall, who broadcast

754
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: since Nutty Reds games with Marty Brennam and also was

755
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: the youngest player to play in the major leagues in

756
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: fifteen years of age. Sure, so I got a letter

757
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: back two weeks ago. I got this letter and he

758
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: wrote back to me and one of the assistance to

759
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: the Post message general that taking it up for vote.

760
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: They did a vote on it. Really have to be

761
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: you have to be deceased five years to have a

762
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: stamp named after you. And it was wonder if I

763
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: sent the letter to Joe no Soul's son kidnapsl right

764
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. I may held out to the local

765
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: media and everybody is getting a little bit of a

766
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: buzz on it. The Reds wrote me back the end

767
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: of the day they got the letter. I said it

768
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: to them. So I'm excited because I'd love to see

769
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: Joe not Sole get a stamp with his name, and

770
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: he deserves it. I mean, the youngest player ever to

771
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: play baseball. That's great. Well, plus, I mean, let's be honest,

772
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: and he just between me, you and a lamp post.

773
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: You've got some pull of the United States Postal Service.

774
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: You are, no but nobody writes letters anymore. You know,

775
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: my wife thinks it, says it's a bad thing because

776
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: it shows people my age and I'm old and I'm

777
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: snailed the old guy. I said, not at all. I said,

778
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: people appreciate the fact that you're taking the time to

779
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: send the note because often than not, the mail that

780
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: you get a home's garbage. It's either bills or junk mail.

781
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: So when you get something like this, you could basically

782
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: get on someone's desk. And even example, when I started

783
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: in radio, is on the but I also did sales,

784
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: and you know, there was really not much of Internet

785
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: action then. But now in in the sales everything is

786
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: non personal. It's all basically done computer. You're sending out

787
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: that there be a proposal, you're setting out the rates

788
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: and boom boo boom. You know that then it was

789
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: all personal, face to face and relationships and it's all

790
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: about mail. And I think that really that's helped me

791
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: over the years and helped me make a relationship because

792
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: I Bill Belichick and Bobby Night over the years through

793
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: letters and sending them stuff. And that's why it was in.

794
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Belichick is a big letter writer. I get letters with

795
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: him all the time. That's great, that's great. See and

796
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: and so you you've maintained that over the years with Belgian.

797
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: What do you guys talk about? You know, I get

798
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: too personal, but what kind of stuff is sports? Or

799
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: is it? When the Bengals, the Bengals cut running back

800
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: recently about a year or so ago, and I wrote

801
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: them back, I said, know, he just caught him. He said, yeah,

802
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: he liked somebody's not gonna sign him and stuff like

803
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: not not football. But I did ask him one time,

804
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: I said, could I use you as a reference, Not

805
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: that I'm even looking for a job, but it just

806
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: he just you know what he says, used me as

807
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: the reference? Hes but have the people call me. So

808
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm not writing any letters and stuff like that. So

809
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, if anybody wants I, it is someone up.

810
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: And I opened up. I wrote in a resume that

811
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: do belichicks the reference of mine? You know that's great? Yeah,

812
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: you know I will see I don't. I had heard

813
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: like and and you you know better than me. But

814
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: when I was in New York years ago and Joe Maningo,

815
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: who has just retired, it was the Overnight Guy, and

816
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: he he had told me a story that Belichick, when

817
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: he was a coach with the Jets, would listen to

818
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: the Overnight Show. He'd go to the facilities so early

819
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: that he was still on and he I guess he

820
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: befriended Joe and they became became pals away before he

821
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: became Bill Belichick, the great Patriots coach. But so he

822
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: does he listens to the sports or at least BacT

823
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Danny listened to sports Stark Radio. And I know he's

824
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a big war buff and all that I've I've heard

825
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: stories that he'll buy stuff off eBay, like old war

826
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: memorabili and things like that, and so I don't know.

827
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting guy because you know, the public

828
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: persona Belichick is, he's curmudgeon and he's just yeah, when

829
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: when these athletes and sports figures say they don't listen

830
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: or read, I don't believe it because the sports guys

831
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: and if you're a sports guy, that's what you do.

832
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, you can't tell me you

833
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: don't pick up the paper, look at the internet, social media,

834
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: or listen to talk radio. You have to. I mean,

835
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure football coaches in the NFL when they're in

836
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: that car turned the radio into sports talk radio. They're

837
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: not listening to rap music. I promise Andy Reid is

838
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: not listening to rap music. Well, and you've had people

839
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: confront you, and I've had the same way. I was

840
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: doing local stuff back in the day, had a guy

841
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: in the Dodgers that screamed at me and yelled at

842
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: me in the clubhouse, and the whole the rant was,

843
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't listen to sports radio. Is like, well,

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Speaker 1: why are you upset with me? And then he said

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Speaker 1: my family does. He said that was the Uh that

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Speaker 1: was when is his complaints? So I don't listen, but

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Speaker 1: the family does and and all that. So anyway, Uh, Andy,

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Speaker 1: you're the man, You're the myth, the legend. I've taken

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Speaker 1: away too much of your time. So how can people

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Speaker 1: hear you on the weekends? We have promote the heck

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Speaker 1: out of the show social media. You've got more followers

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Speaker 1: than I do on Twitter. You're a machine over there.

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Speaker 1: How can people got to be a family, That's why

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Speaker 1: there you go? How can how could people get in

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Speaker 1: touch with a great Andy Ferman? I'll listen to you.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you my phone number if you want. No, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm on a Sunday Fox What's Radio Sunday six dam

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Speaker 1: Eastern That will be three am Pacific, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: Serious XM eighty three and could do that. And during

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Speaker 1: the week you see on Tuesday nights I'm on seven

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Speaker 1: ww Radio at Cincinnati at nine pm Eastern. So that's

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Speaker 1: basically it for me. You know. It's also you can

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Speaker 1: get you the I write for the Brooklyn Daily Eagle

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Speaker 1: twice a week. I write sports for them Mondays and

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Speaker 1: Fridays and the Brooklyn Daily Eagles. You could google that

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Speaker 1: if you'd like us some good stories there. Let's cool.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. You you're juggling, You're juggling a lot

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Speaker 1: of gigs, and you said, let us out, and you're

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Speaker 1: going to the post office two or three times a day.

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Speaker 1: It seems like to send those very good thank you Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Buddy, you're good. Thanks