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Speaker 1: Love, Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Sham your host

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Speaker 1: rum Shooter, and it is Thursday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Monk Lupa joins us, Hey, Lupi, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Louis?

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Speaker 1: Hello, ra I love when you say, isn't that what

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Speaker 1: they called your dad?

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Speaker 2: They did? They did the government.

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Speaker 1: It's so, how are things with you? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with Doris? Your mommy? We've not had

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Speaker 1: an update about Doris for a several weeks.

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Speaker 2: What we talked about you and for we were on

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Speaker 2: family vacation last week every single day listened to the shows.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot for him.

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Speaker 1: Now, Doris used to only listen to Thursday show because

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Speaker 1: you are hash it spent expanded to another day. You're

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Speaker 1: just still a Thursday listener.

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Speaker 2: I encourage her to open her spend her horizons, listen

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Speaker 2: to all the co hosts, but I think Thursdays her favorite.

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Speaker 1: It should be hey Doris, if you're listening, lolo, and

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Speaker 1: don't forget to floss. She works in a dentist office,

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Speaker 1: so it's very important. Don't forget to floss. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: jump into the show. Was so ridiculous. What time is

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Speaker 1: it my Friends and news Time, big story out of London.

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Speaker 1: So Prince Harry did an explosive interview with ITV that's

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Speaker 1: like ABC or NBC, it's a big network in Britain.

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Speaker 1: And the program was called Tabloids on Trial, dramatic headline.

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Speaker 1: So what this was about is the tabloids in Britain

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Speaker 1: have they gone too far? There was a phone hacking scandal,

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Speaker 1: stuff was occurring. Now Harry has been really fierce about

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Speaker 1: suing the papers. But what he said, which I think

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Speaker 1: the feud in the family. So in a really candid

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Speaker 1: interview he talked about the British media, which he said

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Speaker 1: a quick pro quo relationship, and he wants no part

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Speaker 1: him in the battle. They didn't. They did not sign

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Speaker 1: on to all these lawsuits Harry and Meghan have been really,

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Speaker 1: really loud critics about the press, about how they're treated,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time too, they do enjoy the press,

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Speaker 1: and so this is a very complicated story concept here.

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Speaker 1: It's a quick pro quo relationship. That's how life, unfortunately works,

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Speaker 1: it does, for better or worse. And the Royal family

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Speaker 1: were like, Harry, if you want to take on the

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Speaker 1: British press, that's on you. We ain't going down that road.

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Speaker 2: Mean, listen, I think complicated is the word. You know,

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Speaker 2: the family, it's in a lot of ways they need

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Speaker 2: so no doubt it's been a time's toxic and no

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Speaker 2: doubt that Harry you know, wants it both ways where

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Speaker 2: And I think that's where things get tricky, is that,

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Speaker 2: They're still looking for that attention. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: It was after the wedding that things got really bad.

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Speaker 1: Then when the book came out, it was over. There's

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Speaker 1: work really hard Mark to get this right. We don't

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Speaker 1: just make it up. You couldn't do that. All these

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. It's easy to do. I sometimes do this too.

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Speaker 1: And so I think here, the more you admit your

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Speaker 1: You're pretty good at fessing up for a new mess up.

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Speaker 1: Mark you're the first to say sorry, or I didn't

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Speaker 2: I think you have to for you to move forward,

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Speaker 2: you can't kind of, you know, shy around it or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Harry, You're too smart. You know how

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Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Prince Harry blames the

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Speaker 1: UK tabloids for his family few. The question is is

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Speaker 1: What do you blame him? More? The press or Harry controversial.

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Speaker 1: hear your results. Hey you loup, what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: This is juicy. Curly Class has broken her silence and

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Speaker 2: her Taylor Swift falling out. I have been waiting for

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Speaker 2: this one. Okay. In they stunning turn of events, a supermodel,

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Speaker 2: Curly Class has finally addressed her rumored rip with pop

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Speaker 2: star Taylor Swift. When asked if she listens to Taylor's

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Speaker 1: Shake it Up. That's a good song. So she's not

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Speaker 1: really talking about the falling guys here, but it's a

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Speaker 1: So she was on a podcast and she was asked

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Speaker 1: once inseparable. Could this be the rekindling of a friendship.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if doing an interview where you say

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Speaker 1: something happened between these two, now get don't don't forget Mark. Recently,

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Speaker 1: we saw Carly at Taylor's concert in Los Angeles. However,

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Speaker 1: So there's definitely drama here. I think at the moment,

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Speaker 1: to get out of Carly Kluss. I don't think she's

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Speaker 2: I don't either, and I think maybe this might be

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Speaker 2: You know, it's, you know, the chance for her to

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Speaker 2: I'm still here for you, i still support you, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should do that. I remember when Madonna's brother

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't care. But looking fabulous and she immediately texted

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Speaker 1: they look, that could be a first step if we

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Speaker 1: fall out, Mark, the way to make friends is to

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Speaker 1: text me, Rob I saw you on morning TV and

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Speaker 1: you looked fabulous. I couldn't help it. I'd respond immediately

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Speaker 1: thank you, Mark, and then before you know, it would

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Speaker 1: she said that breakup was just just awful. She even

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