1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dick It Happen Here, a podcast about NGO 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: is portraying the working class and casting reproductive autonomy to 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: the wolves. I'm your host, Christopher Wong, and this is 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: part two of my interview with Crystal and Elizabeth from 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: UEI Local sixe six. They are once again representing only 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: themselves in the union and not planned parenthood. Yes, so 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: let's get back to the interview. Okay, should should I? 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Should I do a incredibly long and drawn out metaphor 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: about migrant workers in China? Go for it? Yeah, Okay, 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna, I'm Gonna'm gonna, I'm gonna do a 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: man for it. Okay, So alright, alright. So one of 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: one of the sort of engines of Chinese economic growth 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: for a long time is that China's economy is built 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: on migrant labor. There are I think it's like two 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: fifty million migrant workers. It's like like if you put 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: them together as a country, I think I got to nine. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: If you put together as a country, it would be 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: like the fourth largest country in the world. And this 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: was able to happen, you know, and like the sort 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: of like the secret of the Chinese miracle is that 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: it was a bunch of workers who were exploited horribly 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: and they also had a lot A lot of these 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: workers are coming from the countryside, and there's still sort 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: of like kinds of forms of like communal landownership that 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: are left over from the socialist period there. And so 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: what happens is you have these sort of like I 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: don't know, like kind of socialist collective air like collective 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: landownership stuff that's like basically subsidizing these workers so that 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: they can move into the cities. And this means that 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: their bosses have to pay like that their their bosses 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: can pay them less because part of their income and 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: part of their support network is coming from something that's 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: outside of the outside of the such a system. And 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: that's what this reminds me of where it's like, this 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: stuff is happening because of this incredible community mobilization and 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: like that's where the support is coming from. But that 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: also means that like the actual like the organizations who 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: are getting the most money and the most resources into 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: are like you know, who are your bosses don't have 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: to do that because it's it's you know, and this 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: is the same thing with your labor to where it's 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: it's you have these these like there's this way in 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: which solidarity is mobilized as a way to sort of 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: like stop gap the fact that these groups don't want 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: to pay people and don't want to give people the 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: resources that are necessary, and so because it has to 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: get done, people will, like, people will do it, and 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: people will people will donate stuff, people will help support, 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: people will do this work. But the thing that it 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: winds up doing is that these people are never actually 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: forced to see the full consequences of their actions. They're 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: never never forced to like actually see what what the 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: staff and decisions like does what what the fact that 54 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: they don't pay you anything? Like actually does they don't? 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: They never have to face it because people are like 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: desperately trying to patch the boat together so it doesn't sink. Yeah, 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot, like what would it be 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: like if you know, one of our higher up managers 59 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: turned away all of these patients and it was them, Yeah, 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: what if they knew what it was like? I remember 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: picking up the phone a couple of weeks ago, and 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: the only thing that I heard when I picked up 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: that phone was a blood curdling scream like This was 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: like a scream out of a horror movie. And then 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: there were two thuds and then dead sides and I 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: don't know what happened to that person. I I don't 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: know if they were able to call back. I didn't 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: call back because if that person is in danger right now, 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to subject them to any more danger. UM. 70 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: There's a reason that when we dial out it's the 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: restricted or block numbers. But it's moments like that that 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: stick with you. And the fact that we're having more 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: and more of these moments where like every other call 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: is not like exactly to that level, but like emotionally 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: still sticks with you. And just for some additional UM, 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: just like to kind of like build out this kind 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: of like misogynistic context that we're working. And it's actually 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: super common to get people calling in for abortion services, 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: like in the middle of a fight with their partner. UM. 80 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I have had had like men like actively obstructing the 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: caller and you know, I'm trying to schedule them, and 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: they'll have me on speaker phone and everything and training 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: me to and I was like, are you able to 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: get to like another place because I can't hear you 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: over him? And you know, and he's like, I'm not 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: doing anything, and I'm like I just need to be 87 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: able to hear you, and like, um, yeah, so you 88 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: do you get that because that's you know, because there's 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: people want abortions for every reason under the sun, and 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: it's totally fine. Um. People get abortions for lots of 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: different reasons, but a common reason is because their partner 92 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: sucks and he's a piece of ship. He was abusive 93 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: and they got to get away from him. And that's 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately common. And we're on the phone getting that. Sometimes 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: we get to meet them in real life too, and 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: that's always super fun. I always say that, I say 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: to patients constantly that boyfriends either only go one of 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: two ways when we meet them in our clinic. They're 99 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: either wonderful and fantastic and very supportive um or they're 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: just the worst. And I've had patients boyfriends who literally, 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: while this person is mid procedure will be like, you're 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: being dramatic and need to stop, and they'll take a 103 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: phone call yeah or something, but playing games on their 104 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: phone and they won't look at anybody m or they'll 105 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: actively leave their partner there. And these are people that 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: like were their rides. Oh yeah, we've had people get abandoned. Yeah. Yeah, 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: they'll just see like I'm done, I'm bored, and then 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: they'll just leave and it's just so frustrating. Lots of 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: deal with We have a lot to deal with the staff. 110 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: And I always tell people because I trained UM staff 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: at the clinic, and I'm always like, we see everything here. 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: And when I say I say that, I mean it. 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: We see literally everything like you just and I'm sure 114 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: there are other similar health provisions like health services that 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: it's kind of similar. We just kind of see everything, UM, 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, we we literally see everything because people when 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: people come in for an abortion appointment, UM, like we 118 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: don't just talk about the procedure, you know, we do 119 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: birth control counseling, STD screening, UM, we provide resources for housing, 120 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: legal support, UM, therapy, finding therapists, and we just we 121 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: we do so much because we're providing a comprehend of 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: health care service. And again, like something that we tell 123 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: patients is that they can expect to be here for 124 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: like four hours six and it depends on the individual patients, 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: their individual needs UM and what services we can provide 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: for them. And sometimes patients need a lot of TLC 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: and we're not going to rush that. Um, they're going 128 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: to get the services that they need and they want, 129 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and we're going to do it on their time because 130 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: they're very they're very fragile, and that's not the time 131 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: to run times through. They're not always so sometimes they're 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: fragile and like sometimes they're like, let's get this done, 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, I just oh, yeah, I just want to 134 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the whole range of we get, we get. But sometimes 135 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: they're very fragile. Yeah. We have had some really confident 136 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: patients that I really like talking to though that they're 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: very yeah, like ready to get it over with and 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: are like thanks for being here, and they just my day. 139 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I love it when we're like, oh, how do because 140 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: we have to you know, we have to do like 141 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: make sure that they're not being coerced in everything. And 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: it's like, so, you know, how are you feeling about everything? 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: And they're like, I feel great. I can't wait to 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: not be pregnant, and they're like dancing. Obviously that's nice, 145 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: but you know, in reality, a lot of times when 146 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: we ask someone how they're feeling and what's going on, 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: we're like the first person to have asked them that 148 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: in like two years, so then we're like opening up 149 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: a space, which I'm so glad we get to do. Um. 150 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: I love working with patients, I love the services we provide, UM. 151 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: But it's it's what what sucks and what's a failure 152 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: is that I'm like the first healthcare provider to like 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: ask them how they're feeling and actually care and like years, 154 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: like we really get something. We get some patients who 155 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: have been like shoot up and spit out by the 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: health care system, and no one's ever given a ship 157 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: and we all, we all are very good at giving 158 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: a ship. So um. Yeah, it really seems like just 159 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: like everything that's wrong with this country gets thrown at 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: like you specifically, because this is like like every every 161 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: sort of like every bit of racism, every bit of sexism, 162 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: like every like failure of the health care system, like 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: every every like and it's not even like everything on 164 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a political level and on a social level that goes 165 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: wrong with people's lives. Yeah, I think it comes up 166 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot with stigmatized health care UM like abortion and 167 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: then also hormotherapy I imagine was pretty similar. Is you're 168 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: facing a lot of obstacles that are put up by 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: the communities, the institution, and the health care system. The 170 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: employer is like your family. There's a Remember we did 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: an interview with a promotion activist from Mexico. One of 172 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: the things that she was talking about was, um, she 173 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: called it social decriminalization. Oh, is it kind of destigmatizing? 174 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, but it's like, like I think she 175 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: didn't talk about it a huge amount, but it seemed 176 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: like the concept behind it, it was like, Okay, so 177 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: you have legal you have like legal criminalization, but then yeah, 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: like social segmatization means that it's still not really legal 179 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: because there's there's like there's you know, there's like social 180 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: laws against the rights. You have to like deal with both. 181 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: And that that struck me as like a really I 182 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a really powerful like way to think 183 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: about it. I guess. Is it kind of like a 184 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: moral thing where people think, like it's not okay to 185 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: get an abortion, so you get like that pressure and that, Yeah, 186 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think and also I mean, like it's not 187 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the pressure like applied on a person 188 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: from just like you know, like I mean in Mexico 189 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of like people who a growing up Catholic, right, 190 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: but also like it's the pressure from your family, is 191 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: pressure from your friends, it's a pressure from everyone around you, 192 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: and you have to like socially like legalize it. Because 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: Crystal has been doing this work longer than I have. 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've only been working at our current 195 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: job for a year, which I love. UM, But definitely 196 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: when I started, UM, there were people in my life 197 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: that I didn't think, we're gonna get weird about it, 198 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of liberal people. Most of 199 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: all of my friends are very liberal, very open pro choice, 200 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: like very union friendly. And immediately I noticed that when 201 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I started talking happily about abortions, people would get really 202 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: quiet and really awkward. Um, and they would be like 203 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: that's great, I'm happy for you. But then that was 204 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: like it like I couldn't and I'd be like no, 205 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: but like abortions and then they're great, They're great. People 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: need them. It's an essential service. And so I just 207 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: upped up the anti more and I started talking about 208 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: it a lot more. This is what I gotta do, 209 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: gotta weed out the week. Like if you're uncomfortable with 210 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: my job, job, I'm not going to talk about it. 211 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, that is a component to like also on 212 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: top of literally everything else, like um, you know, like 213 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: how hard the job is and how then we got 214 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: to like rally as a union and get better wages 215 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: and and then we can't even sometimes talk about it 216 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: because because the stigma like with friends or family, like 217 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: I can't talk about my parents or I can't talk 218 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: with my parents about my job. So it's just like 219 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: this whole big part of my life because I'm pretty 220 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: much like an abortion access activist and I just can't 221 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: talk about it and with them, which is just you know, 222 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: it's it would be nice if I could, but I can't, 223 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: and I just kind of deal with it. And then 224 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: also um even tiny normal situations like getting a haircut 225 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: or getting an uber, it's people ask you what you 226 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: do all the time. I lie every time, But that's 227 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: a decision you have to make because sometimes I lie 228 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes I don't know what it is just going 229 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: to tell the truth, and it's like a gamble because 230 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: I've told the truth before and then an uber driver 231 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: starts praying for me. And then I've told the truth 232 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: before and had someone um like open up to me, 233 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: and then we have a great conversation and then I've 234 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: told the truth before and had really awkward conversations were 235 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: like I support abortion, I think some people have too 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: many and it's like, why are you telling me to 237 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: get out here? But um, yeah, this was a decision 238 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: that I made for myself personally because of this. One 239 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: time I took an uber to work and I mentioned 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: what I did, and then that guy um started like 241 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: talking about me to the antis in front of our 242 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: job and they were like talking about it was it 243 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: was actually it was a woman. It was a it 244 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: was a female Uber driver. I mentioned this to her um, 245 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: and she went up and was like, I think that 246 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: like what you guys are doing. It's like she was 247 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: talking to the anti specifically. She was like, what you're 248 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: doing it is too aggressive. You need to buy the 249 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: building next door, Oh my god, set up shop there 250 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: and make it less antagonizing so people want to listen 251 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to you. And then immediately in the group chat, everybody 252 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: was like, who's talking to the antis? And I'm like, 253 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: I just mentioned that I worked there. Um. It was 254 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: just a lot. So after that, I was like, on 255 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: my way to work at the very least, I'm just 256 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: not going to talk about it. I'm gonna be like 257 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I work at a doctor's office downtown. It's like risk assessment. Yeah, 258 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: I feel like the antis learned my name by listening 259 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: for the uber drivers and I've got an uber drivers. 260 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: They're like, who are you? What's your name? And I'm like, 261 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you because there's a dude 262 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: standing there that wants to follow me. So you're gonna 263 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: deal with that a brew driver. Yeah, we gotta switch 264 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: up patterns when we come into work sometimes too. And 265 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I do what I actually started, Um when I call 266 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: an uber to work because I don't have a car 267 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: all the time because I don't get paid that much. 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: But U when I have to uber to work, Um, 269 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I've started getting dropped off like somewhere else and just 270 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: walking because it's just too too many problems, too much, 271 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Like I got, I get dropped off at like a 272 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: different location, like a couple of blocks away from work, 273 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: at a different spot usually, and then I just walk in. 274 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Like if you you might just want to go to 275 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: work and drink your coffee and you have like your 276 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: uber driver joining the protests outside, it's like then it's 277 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: worse because they know they picked you up, they know 278 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: where you live and they know your name, your name, 279 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: they want to shout your name out the door. It's like, because, yeah, 280 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the protesters learned my name and they like chant my 281 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: name and we're like, I'll walk behind and like the 282 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: whispering my name. I'm like, what is this? This is 283 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: kind this is kind of kinky, but like yeah, and 284 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: we decide that they don't actually know who you are. 285 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: They just like every do with banks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 286 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: So for the listeners, I have like pretty blunt banks. Yeah, 287 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not the only worker in the building obviously 288 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: who has banks. But so everyone in the buildings like Crystal, Crystal. 289 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I think everybody with banks worts your worker named Crystal. 290 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's reassuring, but also bad for other people 291 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: with banks because they might get killed. Yeah, it's like 292 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: funny but not funny. I'm just you got were trying 293 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: to make light of it. We all we have to. Yeah. 294 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: So the other thing I still wanted to ask about 295 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: was Crystal. Yeah, you've had like the bosses doing disciplinary 296 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: action for stuff that you've been doing in terms of 297 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: unions stuff. We'll talk about that a little bit technically 298 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: pre disciplinary, but I mean, like, what does it matter 299 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: because like the point is the same is is intimidation. UM. 300 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: It's very easy to do, is to get your lawyer, 301 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: get your HR and have them talk to someone, and 302 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: then everybody knows about it because everybody talks at work 303 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: and bad gas travels fast and UM, then they and 304 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: the whole idea is to to scare people into not 305 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: talking to reporters, not talking to UM people about what's 306 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: going on. And I feel like it's difficult to talk 307 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: about what's been happening like this is like I keep 308 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: saying it, it's a it's a national health crisis. It's 309 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: a disaster, it's a tidal wave, it's a hurricane, and 310 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: it's generational trauma. We're using all of these words, and 311 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: then like I feel like being I'm pressured into not 312 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: even talking about it because I'm talking about everything. I'm 313 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: talking about how we're understaffed, I'm talking about how we're 314 00:17:54,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: seeing patients from all over. I'm talking about, UM, how 315 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: how traumatizing it is. And for whatever reason, it's just 316 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: more comforting for some of these organizations to hide under 317 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: the table with their lawyer and just like shaking their 318 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: boots and say, like we could be sued for this 319 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: and we could be sued for that and what if 320 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: that happens? What if this happens? And like for me, 321 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know what, what what if someone 322 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: dies because we can't get them in and they can't 323 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: get to us because of legislation and there being no 324 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: health care infrastructure because part of healthcare is also getting 325 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: to the appointment. Um, so if like none of that 326 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: exists and like people are suffering because of it, Like 327 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: I just can't keep my mouth shut about that. And 328 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like as like somebody a member on 329 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the bargaining team, and I also am ced our rally. Um, 330 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: I feel like there's been a lot of pressure on 331 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: me and my big mouth. Um. I feel like I've 332 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: they're trying to intimidate me and scare me. And I'm 333 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: blessed for a reasons. Number One, UM, my dad, who 334 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: is otherwise conservative and doesn't support anything that I do, 335 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: but he was a union stewart, and growing up, I 336 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: would see him resolving conflict as a union stewart and 337 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: that was very influential and inspirational to me because it 338 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: really instilled some good values, even though we don't have 339 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: the same values obviously, but and you didn't. But there's that, 340 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Like I I developed like a strong sense of labor 341 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: rights and labor activism from him and then too, my 342 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: first career choice was a middle school teacher, so I've 343 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: taught seventh and eighth grade for about seven years. So like, 344 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: literally nothing scares me, because after you've talked to a 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: cafeteria full of a hundred and twenty thirteen year olds, 346 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: it's like that's it. That's like the scariest thing ever. 347 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Um So I'm not really afraid of the bullying and 348 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: the intimidation. Um, which is good because it definitely is 349 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: very effective and I'm sure a lot of people would 350 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: be pissing themselves, but um, I'm pissing uself a little bit, 351 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: but I'm fine. Um, I have a second job after 352 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: all that, Like that's like fun, the fact you have 353 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: to work another job. Like and they're like one of 354 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: the things I noticed is they're they're doing they're doing 355 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: the working you for thirty five hours and not forty 356 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: because yeah, so don't benefits. I don't know. Like the 357 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: impression that I get from this and I think that 358 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: makes you really angry is like it really feels like 359 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: like the like how worried they are about being suited. 360 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: It feels like like the fact that that's sort of 361 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: like the basis of all this, and just like they 362 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: they they're behaving as if they've already lost and they're 363 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: trying to like like claw and hold onto whatever they have. 364 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: But it's like if if if you're if you're fighting 365 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: from the position of we have already lost, you're you're 366 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: just gonna keep losing. And it's like and and and 367 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: you know it's not just that it's like okay, like 368 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: if they were just doing that, but then you know, 369 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: like not passing, like not literally forcing everyone else who's 370 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: working with them to also be in the same sort 371 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: of defeatism, like it would be different. But it's like 372 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: it's like no, that they're they're then inflicting that on you, 373 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: and it's just infuriating. Yeah. I think this also, um 374 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: to segue to something that actually had happened to me today. 375 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: Um as part of um, you know, being in a 376 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: call center for an abortion provider is that we I 377 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: think this instills like a sense of fear for providers 378 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: as well, um, for their own personal safety. It just 379 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: makes it feel bigger because you have all these other 380 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: people would be like, well, it's it's like, these are 381 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: all these things that could happen to you, this is 382 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: what might happen to you. UM. And I think that 383 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: it makes providers have to evaluate, you know, their own 384 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: risks to what they do. UM. And if you are 385 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: somebody with not as strong values for this work, like 386 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: it's not a strong an opinion towards this work, it 387 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: causes UM, you to just neglect patients because UM. I 388 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: had an incident that happened today where we had somebody 389 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: call UM from a different state where abortion is not legal, 390 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: and they had their best friend in the car with 391 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: them and they were like, my friend is like actively hemorrhaging. 392 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: She's been like bleeding for days. UM, do you have 393 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: like an emergency appointment? Like we could drive up to 394 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: p A. UM, Like what do I do? She's been 395 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: to her doctor three different times and they refused to 396 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: treat her because they like viable. And in my brain, 397 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm just shaking because I'm like, this is a h 398 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: this is your job, Like you're the first thing as 399 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: a doctor is to make sure that your patient doesn't die, 400 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: and they might die and I'm not a doctor. UM. 401 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: And so I was like, if your friend is losing 402 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: so much blood that you are worried for her safety. UM. 403 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I know on the phone they were talking about how 404 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: she felt like she was like getting dizzy and like 405 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: losing a ridiculous amount of blood. And I was like, 406 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: I strongly suggest that you go to a hospital where 407 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: um abortion is legal, since you're planning on, you know, 408 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: coming up for an abortion anyway, UM, because in that case, 409 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: they would have to treat you no matter what. UM. 410 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: And if you know it's going to result in an abortion, 411 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: then at the very least you're protected because you're here 412 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: in your cross state line. And I'm like, because any 413 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: any hospital has to treat you, UM for something that's serious, 414 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's scary to think that there are definitely 415 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: other other providers and other places where this kind of 416 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: thing is also happening. UM. And I just worry that, 417 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, Um, what if I was ten minutes, Like 418 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: what if I was two minutes late, what if I 419 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: was thirty seconds? Like what if I told her to wait? Um? 420 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Like some places kind of have to um or I 421 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: told her that I couldn't help her, Like some places 422 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: kind of have to with these laws. I don't think 423 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: that I could live with the guilt of that. M 424 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: hm um. It's just another another added trauma to the day. 425 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of people said and 426 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: like these people suck, But a lot of people were 427 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: saying that, like stuff like this wouldn't happen. I know 428 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: for a fact that I had so many I'm very 429 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: vocal about oortion access in my work, and I've had 430 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: people tell me like, people won't be hemorrhaging and driving 431 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: across state lines, and I'm like, absolutely, they will be. Absolutely, 432 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: And this was like a month ago, and then well 433 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: more than a month ago. Time goes fast, but like 434 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: this was like prior to dobs, I should say, but um, 435 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: and it's just when they were telling me, like I 436 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: don't believe you, and I'm like, what do you mean 437 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: you don't believe me? This is the most believable thing. 438 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: And then to have had people say that it wouldn't 439 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: happen and to call me a liar and like a 440 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: drama queen, and then now to like, I mean, I 441 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't get a call like that, but like 442 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: to hear like my coworker and like and then just 443 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: like hearing it happened elsewhere, because like you know, we 444 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: have comrades and and Union UM siblings in Ohio UM 445 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: with other unions, and they've talked about it happening, and 446 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: just so hearing my my um my peers talking about 447 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: it and just knowing like we knew this would happen, 448 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: and we I just it feels like we just like 449 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: walked right into it with no plan. There's still no plan. 450 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: People are still in cars drive across state lines while 451 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: actively hemorrhaging, and I don't know what it will be 452 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: done other than us workers really stepping up and hopefully 453 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: the community then supporting us UM, because we can't do 454 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: it without community support, like like Elizabeth was saying before, 455 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, oh, and Elizabeth was actually talking about before 456 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: about the food that we've been getting from the community. 457 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: And this also made me think of what it looks 458 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: like to turn up for workers in general, because you know, 459 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: we're all workers here and like we know what it 460 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: feels like where you're too busy to stop and eat 461 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: and you're just going through your day and you're running 462 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: on fumes and you're exhausted. But the fact that our 463 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: community was like feeding has been feeding us, and like 464 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: turning up for us to the point where like I was, 465 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: having good, healthy food confused me from day to day 466 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: in that well since then and then it really got 467 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: me wondering like, is this is what it likes? This 468 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: is what it's like when you have well fed workers 469 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: and that are cared for. So, you know, if the 470 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: only people answering the call for these these people who 471 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: need healthcare are us, We're exhausted, we don't have time 472 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: to go out and get food, especially since we've got 473 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: people following us down the street whatever, um while we 474 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: go get a hot dog trying to bother us, um. 475 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: But then to have like the community bringing us food 476 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: and then being well fed, it was just like, oh 477 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: my god, what if all workers were well fed and 478 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: all communities turned up for their workers. Wouldn't that be 479 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: so nice? And it got me thinking like like wow, 480 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: this is like a really positive thing that is not 481 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: really talked about. Like I mean, we talk about feeding people, 482 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: but like what if workers were well fed? Like I 483 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: don't like healthcare workers. It's just it's been really nice. 484 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: And I love our community. Um, I love our city. 485 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I love the organizations that have been organizing it. We're 486 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: incredibly grateful. Yeah, they're fantastic, they're they're so good to us. Um. 487 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: I know that for those couple of weeks where we 488 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: had food in our breakroom, UM, I think we worked 489 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot better. Everybody was in much better moods. I 490 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: didn't get shaky hands, you know. Yeah, we were all 491 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: like really excited to see each other and talk to 492 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: each other and talk about our days. Um just over 493 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: like actually good coffee. And it was just a huge 494 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: morale boost to have the community supporting the workers. And 495 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: then now we have the community coming to our union 496 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: rally saying we support you, we want you to get 497 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: paid more, we want you to have better staff, and 498 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: that is just like so necessary right now because we 499 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: need we need the community, we need everyone. What else 500 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: can listeners who are decord like want to help but 501 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: are not in the industry do just uh to support 502 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: you all well? And I guess on two levels, like 503 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: one is like like what what can they do sort 504 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: of in general in their communities and then to specifically 505 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: to help y'all with your fight with the hospital clinic 506 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: just a little clinic, just a tiny, little, tiny little guy. UM. 507 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I know that for us specifically, I think do what 508 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: you do best if you are a person who likes 509 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: to make art, um, we love seeing your drawings. We 510 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: love seeing like your handwritten notes. UM. If you're a 511 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: person who makes a really good cup of coffee, or 512 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: if you're a cafe who just wants to bring us coffee, 513 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: we love coffee. UM. If you're a bakery that wants 514 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: to donate like donuts or you know, cheesecakes, we will 515 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: happily eat them. Um. Yeah. If you want to, like 516 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: send us a bluetooth speaker so we can listen to 517 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: music during the day. Whatever you do best is what 518 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: we would love as long as it comes from like you, 519 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: comes from your heart, like we love um weighted blankets 520 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: and fluffy things and snacks and just um all of 521 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: those things that come like from the heart make us 522 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: feel like it's worth it um at least from the community. UM. 523 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: And things also that we don't have to think about um. 524 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Because as beautiful as make your own taco kids are, 525 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: we still have to have time to make our own 526 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: tasso ta. Yeah. So if if there's anything that you 527 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: could just like throw at us and it's already like 528 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: put together, like assembled, has very little thought, like a um, 529 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: a zombie or a toddler or a burnt out abortion 530 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: worker and you know, put two and two together. We 531 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: love those two. And you could also follow our union 532 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: UM and there's actually a bunch of abortion care worker unions. 533 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: We're not the only one, we are many. We are 534 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: legion UM. So you can really follow any of us 535 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: and just boost what we need because right right now 536 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: the p p F A union like New York City 537 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco is needing a lot of boosting what they're 538 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Goot Mocker union needs a lot of 539 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: love and support. But our union UI Local six Night 540 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: six UM. Our social media is at p p w 541 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: P Union UM. Not to self vote, but if you 542 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: go on there, there are videos of our rally and 543 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: I need leader a shaped putata if anything wants to 544 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: see us busted open, it's pretty it's pretty cool. We 545 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: busted open a Uterus shape pinata at our rally and 546 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: as we brought up a UM union family child because 547 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: it was it was the son of a local union member. 548 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: We brought him up and we helped him splash the panada, 549 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: the Uterus panada, and as he was swinging it was like, 550 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: this is what we think about low wages. This is 551 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 1: what we think about scotis, this is what we think 552 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: about understaffing. And then candy just like burst out of it. 553 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: It was like a normal birth, you know. Yeah, glitter 554 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: and candy pop out, very realistic. Actually abortions to people 555 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: don't know this, but glitter always comes out during an abortion. 556 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Can confirm there's gonna be there's gonna be like three 557 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: people who actually believe you. They're gonna they're gonna like 558 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: tell their friend this, and their friends gonna be like, 559 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: what are you talking about that. You're like, no, no, 560 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I heard it on a podcast, or like the servings 561 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: sprays glitter when you when you touch it, Dilating the 562 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: cervix is really just opening it up so that it 563 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: litter come out. Yeah. I guess. Well okay, so logistics wise, yeah, 564 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: if you send me links, I will we will put 565 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: them in the episode description. Um. Yeah, and yeah, I guess. 566 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Do you two have anything else that you want to say? Um? 567 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so, other than like thank you for 568 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: having guess. Um, this is super fun. We had a 569 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: great time. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was good. I 570 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: love talking about abortion. Oh yeah, oh my god. Me 571 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth on the phone, just gabbing away, and we'll 572 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: we'll be on twenty on a call twenty minutes talking 573 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: to like someone who who needs help, and then we'll 574 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: like get off and then we'll be gathering about whatever 575 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: for like ten minutes and mostly TikTok's mostly TikTok. But um, yeah, 576 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I know. It's it's so important too that we can 577 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: be platformed as like abortion care workers, as union members, 578 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: as people working in a stigmatized field during a crisis. 579 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: It's very It means so much, and it's meant a 580 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: lot to me to see how many abortion episodes this podcast, Like, yeah, 581 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: you're really cover and everything. Yeah, I was looking them 582 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: up and I was like, there's it's it's every angle 583 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: of abortion care and I love it. We love to 584 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: see my knowledge too, and we love to see it. 585 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna run out of topics, so eventually, but you 586 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: really should have an episode about the serve ex glitter. Yeah, 587 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: so this will this will be our actually wait are 588 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: you full episodes actually booked me the second apul fulls episode. 589 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: More people need to know about this phenomenon alright, that 590 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: this this has been make it happen here. Uh, you 591 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: can find us in the places where you know where 592 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: to find us, because we say this at the end 593 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: of every episode. H yeah, thank you too. 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