Speaker 1: We'll be Baby.
Speaker 2: Dead Ass podcast was like a woman who got a haircut, Baby,
Speaker 2: she about to change a life.
Speaker 3: Ellis ever After is live.
Speaker 4: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight
Speaker 4: from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become
Speaker 4: Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.
Speaker 2: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It
Speaker 2: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable,
Speaker 2: be wrang.
Speaker 1: Of course, but most apportly be us.
Speaker 2: But as we know, life keeps evolving, and so do
Speaker 2: we and through it all, one thing has never changed.
Speaker 5: This is.
Speaker 3: Because we got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: So let's get for the Maybe we'll start with story time.
Speaker 1: It's been such a long time.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Yeah, story time is next.
Speaker 1: Boom story Time.
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna take us back to twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: You typically take us back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to take us back back in the time,
Speaker 4: right twenty eighteen. Kadeen and I are in the mixt
Speaker 4: of developing our social media presence. Yes, and we were
Speaker 4: doing a bunch of battle of the sexist ideas. And
Speaker 4: I remember I had did a video about resetting your freak. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it went viral, and then from going viral. I
Speaker 4: remember our manager at the time came to us and
Speaker 4: it was just like, have you guys ever thought about
Speaker 4: having a podcast?
Speaker 1: And I was like, podcast, what's the podcast?
Speaker 4: And then she explained to us what a podcast was,
Speaker 4: and you and I were like, Yo, this would be
Speaker 4: a dope way for us to give our perspectives on
Speaker 4: marriage from a woman's perspective and then a man's perspective,
Speaker 4: and then we can actually have a little bit of
Speaker 4: a battle.
Speaker 1: It was funny, it was supposed to be in jest.
Speaker 3: It was like taking the comments section, yes the microphone.
Speaker 4: You know, but literally taking the comment section to the microphone.
Speaker 4: And we also had the idea of building this out
Speaker 4: to become a talk show for you because you've always
Speaker 4: had this dream of being a daytime TV host.
Speaker 3: Absolutely still a dream.
Speaker 1: Still it's still a dream.
Speaker 4: But as technology changes, as the industry changes, as the
Speaker 4: topics of conversation change, so have we. So welcome, everybody,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the first episode of Elis Ever After.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, all right, all right, first karaoke of the season.
Speaker 3: Baby first.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna make it very clear.
Speaker 4: We chose a very difficult song for karaoke because it
Speaker 4: just fits us so perfectly.
Speaker 1: This is this is what we do, This is who
Speaker 1: we are. We challenge ourselves.
Speaker 2: Absolutely kill people's songs for a living. You would think
Speaker 2: it's my job at this point to do terrible.
Speaker 1: Do we really kill people songs like that? I don't
Speaker 1: feel like we be killing the songs.
Speaker 3: I know sometimes I just don't know the words. Well,
Speaker 3: you you'll be tend to a little pitchy, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, pitchy is part of it. I mean, it's karaoke.
Speaker 1: Pitchy is part of the karaoke experience.
Speaker 2: Well, some person goes up to do karaokey, they're singing
Speaker 2: like Mariah Carey, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Just like you did that on purpose, right, It's not
Speaker 3: He's not supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be You can't be a professional singer. I agree with
Speaker 1: you on that.
Speaker 4: But I say all of that to say, give me
Speaker 4: some grace on this as I sing this.
Speaker 3: All right, go for it, practice and I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: you ride.
Speaker 4: Shout out to the artist who sang this song, indeed,
Speaker 4: because she is one of the greatest.
Speaker 6: There we go, birds flying high, you know how I feel?
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmm hmm. Sun in the sky.
Speaker 1: You know how.
Speaker 3: Healthy period breathing what.
Speaker 1: Breathe sifting on by? You know how I feel.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's a new dawn. It's a new day.
Speaker 1: It's a new life for me. Yeah, it's a new
Speaker 1: this a new day. It goes to pitch period, it's
Speaker 1: a new life for me. He was, and I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Oh my God, one of my favorite
Speaker 4: whole songs. I'm not gonna say the other person because
Speaker 4: he tripping right now. The whole song is otis Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Where they sampled Nina Simon
Speaker 4: and shout out to Nina Simon.
Speaker 1: But we are feeling good?
Speaker 3: Man, You are not feeling good, dawn. It's a new.
Speaker 1: Day, trouble. Are you're feeling good? I'm feeling alright.
Speaker 3: Listen, you gotta feel bad than all right, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta feel you gotta feel good, man. Are you
Speaker 1: feeling good?
Speaker 5: Feeling good?
Speaker 1: Y'all? Are you feeling good?
Speaker 7: I'm tiring, y'all.
Speaker 3: I knew that was coming. You're coming from the West
Speaker 3: coast time.
Speaker 1: Okay, Josh got off of a flight this morning.
Speaker 4: So what we're gonna do, right, now we're gonna take
Speaker 4: a quick break's some bills.
Speaker 1: And get back into the new format.
Speaker 4: Is everybody knowing that some things are different around here
Speaker 4: Deadass podcast because.
Speaker 1: It's no longer dead Ass podcast.
Speaker 2: It's not Baby Ellis After. Welcome, Welcome to the new sets.
Speaker 2: Welcome to our home, new space, new energy, new vibes,
Speaker 2: new topics. Baby, we're just getting started. Stick around, We'll
Speaker 2: be back, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're back.
Speaker 4: We have a new segment as we introduce the crew,
Speaker 4: who y'all really already know. Anybody who's been following dead
Speaker 4: Ass podcasts and been a part of the Patreon y'all
Speaker 4: are going to know these people. We're gonna introduce, first
Speaker 4: and foremost our producer, Extraordinary over there.
Speaker 1: What's up, trouble, what's going on, y'all? I'm glad I
Speaker 1: still have a job. You got, but what we're excited
Speaker 1: to have you.
Speaker 4: How does it feel to actually be officially part of
Speaker 4: the Ellis ever After podcasts?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 8: It feels like the best revenge in the world. When
Speaker 8: I first started working on Dead Ass, my boss at
Speaker 8: the time was like, You're not gonna have your own show,
Speaker 8: and I was like, dang.
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask, like, I didn't even It's messed
Speaker 1: up but cool. But look at me now, bitch that
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 4: Yo, Matt, Yo, you gotta talk to us a little bit, man, Now,
Speaker 4: let us know how we got here.
Speaker 1: You don't talk ever, You always the down behind the camera.
Speaker 5: Everybody when they see this's gonna be like I just happened.
Speaker 7: People.
Speaker 4: It is Elis ever After and you are officially an
Speaker 4: Ellis not because we got married or anything but.
Speaker 5: Birth.
Speaker 1: But shout out to Matt Man.
Speaker 4: Matt is going to start getting from the camera because
Speaker 4: he has a couple of opinions he wanted to talk about,
Speaker 4: and we've seen on the After Show and last but
Speaker 4: certainly not least a person who actually is responsible for
Speaker 4: curating the Look of Dead Ass podcast before our engagement
Speaker 4: shoot in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: How many years in are we Josh this, Josh?
Speaker 4: How many years is it feels like the sixteen Josh?
Speaker 1: Talk to us? How you feel officially be a part
Speaker 1: of Ellis of Rafter podcast.
Speaker 9: I feeling good, baby, Yeah. I like the evolution of
Speaker 9: it all. I like the look. I like the grown
Speaker 9: and sexy look.
Speaker 4: It's dope, man, grown and Sexy Baby were grown and
Speaker 4: Sexy finalist point we are I'm still trying to grow up.
Speaker 1: I feel like a kid, like I ain't even gonna
Speaker 1: hold y'all. I feel like a kid A lot.
Speaker 3: Of that's very true.
Speaker 2: And if you take a look at those four young
Speaker 2: men standing in there, I still every day it blows
Speaker 2: my mind that I have four children, four sons, responsible
Speaker 2: for four human beings.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Look at us, and look at you.
Speaker 4: See the V, we the V and ever ever because
Speaker 4: you were stuck with me forever, know that.
Speaker 3: Four M V not M like Josh tried to say,
Speaker 3: it's a V.
Speaker 1: Bro. I never saw a M you saw. I never
Speaker 1: saw my only sor V.
Speaker 9: I got a text message where Kadeen agreed with me,
Speaker 9: so let's not play.
Speaker 3: It looks like an R.
Speaker 1: Ellis raft.
Speaker 2: I know it's Ellis ever After, but I can see
Speaker 2: why somebody might say it's an M.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll take it with you. Let's get back
Speaker 4: to the show. We actually have a new segment, all right.
Speaker 4: The new segment that we're going to include is called
Speaker 4: OP or no opp. Now, it's not the OP that
Speaker 4: y'all think. The thing the op y'all thinking of is
Speaker 4: the ops right? No, we're not talking about opposition. We're
Speaker 4: talking about opinions right. The reason why we're introducing op
Speaker 4: or no opps because we want to start a new
Speaker 4: trend here in LS ever after, and it's not always
Speaker 4: having an opinion just because.
Speaker 1: You have an opinion.
Speaker 4: How about people start having opinions when they're educated on
Speaker 4: the topic.
Speaker 2: We love that. We kind of got the idea from
Speaker 2: social media, right because people post. People say, well, I'm
Speaker 2: free to comment in the comment section because if you
Speaker 2: posted about it, I should be able to say what
Speaker 2: I feel about it, which is entirely true.
Speaker 3: Yes, but at some point people just can shut up,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and you don't have.
Speaker 2: To always have something to say about everything. So that's
Speaker 2: where OP and no op can Yes.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna allow Trible to get us started.
Speaker 4: So with Opera no opp what we do is we
Speaker 4: don't listen to the topics beforehand.
Speaker 1: We want it to be as real as possible.
Speaker 4: So Trible comes up with the ops the same way
Speaker 4: she comes up with the facts and stats.
Speaker 1: So Trible's on you, baby, aren't you?
Speaker 7: Y'all?
Speaker 1: For us today for op no op.
Speaker 8: The first topic. I think everybody will be having an
Speaker 8: opinion on this one. I shaved my legs recently.
Speaker 4: God, you see what I'm saying. I have an opinion
Speaker 4: about this. I am, I have an opinion, but I'm
Speaker 4: gonna let you go first.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, Trible. I mean, that was like
Speaker 3: the one that was like the one thing that I.
Speaker 2: Was like, girl, like, I get it, but come on.
Speaker 1: Now, it's not even like a queer thing. It's just lazy.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like doing it right.
Speaker 4: So that I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask,
Speaker 4: like missing my opinion, what's gonna be a question? Did
Speaker 4: you not shave your legs in solidarity with your queerness or.
Speaker 1: Was it just like I don't feel like fucking saving
Speaker 1: my legs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was definitely in solidarity with my lazyness.
Speaker 1: This whole time, I thought she was making a bigger point.
Speaker 1: This is why you can't have an opinion on anything.
Speaker 3: Because you don't even know the reason.
Speaker 1: Because I know what the reason.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
Speaker 2: I've seen Trible, you know, come here and I'm like, hey, Trea,
Speaker 2: listens de Voe's birthday, for example, make sure you bring
Speaker 2: a little outfit to wear because we're gonna go out
Speaker 2: for dinner. And I mean trible, beautiful face hit done here, done.
Speaker 3: Dressed, body yachtying and all that. And then it's like
Speaker 3: you do the skin down to the knee, wolf, kneecat
Speaker 3: wolf and you got a little further down and I'm like,
Speaker 3: trible girl. You know I'll be rocking with you. But baby,
Speaker 3: that's the one thing so I am proud of. Is
Speaker 3: it smooth? Is it better than you thought it would be?
Speaker 1: I mean I used to shame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be a little little bit, a little.
Speaker 1: Bit little hair, don't stop, nothing but a comb. I
Speaker 1: guess the holes love it.
Speaker 3: Love it. I mean I guess it's like a point
Speaker 3: of like, you know, caressing for me. It's not me.
Speaker 4: You you waxed, shave there, do whatever you gotta do
Speaker 4: down there.
Speaker 1: You let it, let it happen.
Speaker 4: I don't want to feel like myself, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, matt op no op.
Speaker 5: On, no opinion? Sorry, got nothing next.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Something I found really interesting. Have you heard of Dave Ramsey.
Speaker 8: He's a conservative radio host and he's a financial wizard.
Speaker 1: He's written a lot of books.
Speaker 8: And he recently got a question on his radio show
Speaker 8: about whether owning multiple properties is greed for a Christian,
Speaker 8: and I thought his answer was very very interesting.
Speaker 10: I own I don't know, I don't even know fifteen
Speaker 10: twenty houses among a bunch of commercial real estate as well.
Speaker 10: How is that not greed? Because I don't earn anything.
Speaker 10: I'm a Christian and that means God owns it and
Speaker 10: I'm managing it for him. So I guess you're calling
Speaker 10: God greedy. Now, Wow, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's loaded too.
Speaker 4: I actually do have an opinion to have an opinion
Speaker 4: that I find that people, not just Christians, because people
Speaker 4: tend to say that Christians like to only use the
Speaker 4: Bible when it's convenient. I feel like people in general
Speaker 4: like to use the Bible when it's convenient.
Speaker 1: And unless you've done the.
Speaker 4: Theological work necessary to be able to explain what the
Speaker 4: Bible meant, you shouldn't be given an opinion on the Bible.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: As far as when it comes to greed, right, I
Speaker 4: agree with him on this. All of these big companies
Speaker 4: buying up properties and raising the pricing market that the
Speaker 4: housing market, that is affecting the housing market. But I
Speaker 4: also agree TikTok, like every other format, tends to, you know,
Speaker 4: sensationalize things. It may raise the housing market possibly three percent.
Speaker 4: They're going to say it's thirty percent. And I feel
Speaker 4: like his opinion does matter because you can't just blame
Speaker 4: God for everything right. So when things don't go right
Speaker 4: in your life, is God full. When things do go
Speaker 4: right in your life is god ful. But God also
Speaker 4: says what faith without works is dead, which means we
Speaker 4: have to put the work in. So at some point,
Speaker 4: as a person, you have to take accountability. Always blaming God,
Speaker 4: whether it's good or bad. To me, it's just a
Speaker 4: bad thing to do. You have to take accountability. He's right,
Speaker 4: having too much of anything is greedy if your spirit
Speaker 4: is greedy. But if you have too much of one
Speaker 4: thing in order to help present an opportunity to other people,
Speaker 4: what if you own these houses and you put it
Speaker 4: for low income people where you're not making as much money. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you own the houses, but you're not being greedy. Being
Speaker 4: greedy is owning all the houses and only making it
Speaker 4: affordable to people who can afford it, and not helping people.
Speaker 4: I don't think the amount makes it greed. I think
Speaker 4: it's the purpose behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think greed is a mindset. Like you said,
Speaker 2: it's a spirit thing. And you know, you might just
Speaker 2: have these homes and you don't know how much that
Speaker 2: person is now able to tithe. You know, maybe they
Speaker 2: can tie and offer more because they have income from
Speaker 2: all these other all work to be able to sustain ourselves,
Speaker 2: of course, and then when you are blessed in abundance,
Speaker 2: you have a responsibility to help others, right, I agree.
Speaker 2: So if you are making residual income or you're making
Speaker 2: more money off of these investments, which is that's the
Speaker 2: point of business, right, then the way you go about
Speaker 2: helping others really speaks more to your spirit than anything.
Speaker 1: I agree, trip.
Speaker 8: I think that it was a clever way to defend
Speaker 8: capitalism using Christianity. I don't think he mentioned the Bible
Speaker 8: once because Jesus was famously a socialist, and there are
Speaker 8: plenty of stories in the Bible that preach against greed
Speaker 8: and selling your soul or your body for money or
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 1: Just being a moral for capital gain.
Speaker 8: And I don't think Dave Ramsey is using any of
Speaker 8: those homes to help anybody.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm personally, not talking about Dave. Yeah, his purpose
Speaker 4: is his purpose. But say, for example, Lebron James, he's
Speaker 4: got billions of dollars, but he opens up the I
Speaker 4: Promised School, so clearly he's gaining and using these resources
Speaker 4: to pay it forward. And that's why I feel like
Speaker 4: you can't use the Bible to bash capitalism, because you
Speaker 4: can also use the Bible like or you can use
Speaker 4: capitalism like Jesus did turn water into wine and shared
Speaker 4: it as opposed to turning water into wine and drinking
Speaker 4: it all himself.
Speaker 8: But the problem with the housing market is that everybody
Speaker 8: needs housing, yes, and everybody doesn't have housing because housing
Speaker 8: is privatized and people are using it to make a profit,
Speaker 8: to make their millions. So I think that being a
Speaker 8: landlord is almost inherently greedy unless you are giving people
Speaker 8: housing for what they can afford and not like driving
Speaker 8: housing prices through the roof.
Speaker 4: Like what's happening, right, understandable, I get what I do,
Speaker 4: get what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially as a renter now too, like you can
Speaker 2: probably see and be like, damn, you know you really
Speaker 2: don't have to be charged all this for rent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, Yeah, because all.
Speaker 8: The money I'm paying for rent and as many times
Speaker 8: as I've seen dog piss an elevator, I'll be wanting
Speaker 8: to go down to the rental office and beat up somebody.
Speaker 1: I should be able to do that.
Speaker 7: If you want to see dog piss. If your br
Speaker 7: is low, regardless.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I was going to say that, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that.
Speaker 7: For me, greed is about your desire. That's your mindset,
Speaker 7: your desire.
Speaker 9: It's not a number it is it is accumulating multiple things.
Speaker 5: For you knew the podcast.
Speaker 7: Oh my bad, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Help them out, man, help my.
Speaker 9: First day on the job. But but like I said,
Speaker 9: greed is about a mindset. It's about your desires and
Speaker 9: what your ultimate goal is. If your ultimate goal is
Speaker 9: to hoard and and not share, then that's greed. If
Speaker 9: you're collecting things and still sharing. But I'm I'm accumulating
Speaker 9: things because of my talent, because of my business, because
Speaker 9: of these things are coming to me because of what
Speaker 9: I've earned and what I've done to get them. Right,
Speaker 9: I'm not doing this to be poor. But at the
Speaker 9: same time, like if you're just like not sharing wealth
Speaker 9: or spreading it around or just doing it inherently like
Speaker 9: the corporations just to just to drive a market and
Speaker 9: to be profitable, and that that's great to me.
Speaker 1: I have a question. I'm gonna let you go, Matt.
Speaker 5: My initial thought was similar on the lines of yours.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people try to weaponize the
Speaker 5: Bible and only use it to make their point. So
Speaker 5: sometimes when I hear anybody reference Biblical stuff with anything
Speaker 5: that's happened in the world to now. So he started
Speaker 5: talking about it once he started telling the Bible, I
Speaker 5: don't know how I feel because I, like you said,
Speaker 5: I'm not researching on that theory party theology part to
Speaker 5: actually understand and go back and forth on that discussion.
Speaker 1: All right, you brought up a good point, though, Josh.
Speaker 4: And even trouble, at what point does gaining enough resources
Speaker 4: to pay it for become greedy? Or is this something
Speaker 4: like like he said, it's inherently in your heart, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, if I want to live nice,
Speaker 4: other people's projection of that could be that I'm greedy
Speaker 4: because I want to live nice, right, Like some people
Speaker 4: may say, even for trouble, why do you care about
Speaker 4: dogs pissing in the elevator.
Speaker 1: You got an elevator. We live in a walk up.
Speaker 1: You just being greedy. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like someone else who has less can always say
Speaker 4: to you, you're being greedy because you have more, right,
Speaker 4: And we have to start looking at people's hearts rather
Speaker 4: than the numbers.
Speaker 1: So that's just my final.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: You got one more trip, but that's it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I have one more that's gonna lead us
Speaker 8: into the topic. Let us get it so on threads, recently,
Speaker 8: author and speaker Lovia Jay Jones posted tax podcast mics.
Speaker 1: Teriff then.
Speaker 8: Saying and that post guy over twenty five hundred likes
Speaker 8: and more than one hundred and seventy five reposts. And
Speaker 8: of course we've all seen this on social media. People
Speaker 8: say this all the time. People say shit like podcast equipment,
Speaker 8: she costs a million dollars.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 8: It's because of some of the bad takes and misogyny
Speaker 8: and pigmy culture and all of the isms and phobias
Speaker 8: that are being spread on podcasts. And so it makes
Speaker 8: me wonder, what do you think about well continuing to
Speaker 8: be podcasters with this type of sentiment going around or no, ip.
Speaker 1: I do have an opinion.
Speaker 4: First thing is, though misogyny is always brought up, right,
Speaker 4: what's the female.
Speaker 1: Word for misogyny? Miss Andrey? How can we never talk
Speaker 1: about that? Wait?
Speaker 5: Does it work?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: And while we never use it because in our culture today,
Speaker 4: men are not allowed to have opinions about anything, it's misogyny,
Speaker 4: but women can say whatever they want about anything.
Speaker 8: Well, it's like we don't call people saying white people
Speaker 8: smell like dogs.
Speaker 1: We don't call that racism. That don't mean that it's
Speaker 1: not racist though.
Speaker 8: Okay, but you know, so you get why because there's
Speaker 8: an imbalance of power.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's definitely an imbalance of power.
Speaker 4: But my thing is, as a person who's going on threads,
Speaker 4: who is making a comment about podcasts but only directing
Speaker 4: it towards one group of people, that's a problem because
Speaker 4: ultimately what she's saying is that men shouldn't have podcasts,
Speaker 4: and that's not fair. So that what you're saying is
Speaker 4: only women should have podcasts, mikes and opinions about things.
Speaker 4: But if you look at history, in the last couple
Speaker 4: of decades, women have had the most to say about things, right,
Speaker 4: and then women are also getting mad at other women
Speaker 4: for having things.
Speaker 1: That's how pickny culture became a thing. Right. You don't
Speaker 1: hear them call men pigmies, it's women picknies.
Speaker 4: But anytime a woman has an opinion that differs from
Speaker 4: the popular culture of most women, what do they call
Speaker 4: her a pigmy? Anytime a man has an opposing opinion
Speaker 4: to what the popular culture of women think, what do
Speaker 4: they call him misogynistic?
Speaker 1: How come there is nothing like that for women? That's
Speaker 1: my biggest part.
Speaker 3: Well, apparently there is a word, but we just never
Speaker 3: hear it.
Speaker 4: But you see what I'm saying, People don't even know
Speaker 4: what it is, the same way you have toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's nothing toxic about women. There's nothing.
Speaker 4: There's no such word as toxic femininity. You want to
Speaker 4: know why, because toxic masculinity was created by women, and
Speaker 4: since they're the ones who are the only ones who
Speaker 4: allowed to have podcasts equipment, Now this is what's going
Speaker 4: to happen.
Speaker 11: Wait, so why anything about No, she didn't say, But
Speaker 11: they're famously been like Andrew Tate and a bunch of
Speaker 11: men who just go on podcasts and bash women or
Speaker 11: say things about about black.
Speaker 1: Women or men who have been because Andrew.
Speaker 8: Tate got accused of like sexual assault and then he
Speaker 8: fled the country.
Speaker 1: Those things are happening.
Speaker 4: Forget the podcast about just being jailed like why and
Speaker 4: he came back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is this is my biggest.
Speaker 8: And I don't know exactly what podcasts she was talking about.
Speaker 8: She didn't say anything about misogyny.
Speaker 5: She just said.
Speaker 1: All she said was tax podcast.
Speaker 8: Mikes and a lot of what I think, what I
Speaker 8: assume is because of some of the things that are
Speaker 8: being spread on podcasts. A lot of times it is misogyny,
Speaker 8: like the British dudes who let Andrew Schultz come on
Speaker 8: and talk about black women on his show.
Speaker 4: See but that's also that's also my point too, write
Speaker 4: we can get rid of the podcast equipment. All we
Speaker 4: want people have to use better discernment of what they
Speaker 4: listen to. Yes, you know what I'm saying, So forget
Speaker 4: the podcast equipment. Stop listening to stuff that it shows
Speaker 4: people in a bad light.
Speaker 2: It's also the clickbait worthy, you know, little thirty second
Speaker 2: clips of people saying wow stuff. It's almost like a
Speaker 2: competition for who could say the most fact you know,
Speaker 2: reactive or the most abrasive thing just to get viral views.
Speaker 4: But we can't tax podcast equipmentcause the ultimate we're doing
Speaker 4: is we're taxing people's ability to have free speech, which
Speaker 4: is anti American, which is part of the reason why
Speaker 4: people come to America is that they can speak openly.
Speaker 4: We don't even got to get started on that because
Speaker 4: but the biggest thing is though, like people should be
Speaker 4: allowed to have their opinions, other people should be smart
Speaker 4: enough to say, is this opinion valuable?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Andrew Tate comes on my screen, I automatically scrope up, like, like,
Speaker 4: that's not someone I'm going to allow access to my
Speaker 4: subconscious because I don't agree with what he says.
Speaker 1: But there's a group of people who do.
Speaker 3: Or what are the red balloons?
Speaker 2: Now, like that's it's not a podcast, but it's just
Speaker 2: like that's another thing.
Speaker 3: The minute I see a.
Speaker 1: Balloon, another every category has.
Speaker 3: I feel like the jokes are gonna nice.
Speaker 1: I do want to clarify something.
Speaker 8: The term toxic masculinity was coined by a man. Pretty
Speaker 8: sure it was, but you said women started it.
Speaker 1: Who say it the most? It was coined by a man.
Speaker 1: It was defined by a man.
Speaker 8: You said women created it, so I wanted fair.
Speaker 4: When you hear people talk about toxic masculinity, who says
Speaker 4: it the most, who's made it famous?
Speaker 1: I guess women.
Speaker 4: And my point is podcasts can't always be just men
Speaker 4: be talking bad on podcasts.
Speaker 3: I don't think the case.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: But when you hear what Trouble just said when reading
Speaker 4: the thing, it was misogyny, it was pick me culture.
Speaker 4: And I chose those two because misogyny is anti men,
Speaker 4: and pick me is also anti women who believe that
Speaker 4: men are right. So it's like we use those two
Speaker 4: examples as the reason why podcasts shouldn't be allowed. It's like,
Speaker 4: so pretty much what we're saying is that anything has
Speaker 4: anything to do with a men's perspective. A man's perspective
Speaker 4: is the reason why we should have podcast I think
Speaker 4: that's unfair.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's perspective.
Speaker 2: After a while, it's almost like when I was a
Speaker 2: makeup artist, for example, right.
Speaker 3: After a while, the.
Speaker 2: Whole entire job of a makeup artist, I feel like,
Speaker 2: or the value that should saying a makeup artist started
Speaker 2: to diminish because it seemed like everybody that picked up
Speaker 2: a brush had a little Box.
Speaker 3: Was a makeup artist.
Speaker 2: So when you are performing at the top of your
Speaker 2: expertise and you want to demand a certain price tag
Speaker 2: for or your service, you now are getting undercut in
Speaker 2: the market because you have people who are now doing
Speaker 2: a phase for fifty dollars and making that the standard.
Speaker 2: Now your face don't look tore up. That's one thing,
Speaker 2: because you're not paying for the level of expertise again,
Speaker 2: but I think that that's the signum tanousy. What's happening
Speaker 2: in the podcast market us renewing a deal with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: It's like, can we demand the amount of money that
Speaker 2: we feel like we deserve being veterans in the game,
Speaker 2: Because now you have all these podcasts that they've poured
Speaker 2: money into that are not reaping the benefits that they
Speaker 2: thought they were going to get, not reaping the views
Speaker 2: and the listens.
Speaker 3: So now you're making it.
Speaker 2: Bad for other people who have literally been putting the blood,
Speaker 2: sweat and tears in for the.
Speaker 3: Past almost decade.
Speaker 2: We can't reap the benefits of that because now everyone
Speaker 2: with a microphone is a podcaster.
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that perspective, And to be honest,
Speaker 4: you're thinking from a financial perspective.
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about the dollars.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 3: You gotta make sense.
Speaker 4: If they put a premium on podcast equipment and can't
Speaker 4: everybody get a podcast, then when people go to negotiate
Speaker 4: their deals, you wouldn't have to compete with the fact
Speaker 4: that everybody.
Speaker 2: Has a podcast, absolutely, and that will start to sift
Speaker 2: out all of the nonsense from people who really find
Speaker 2: value in whatever your podcast is.
Speaker 4: Never thought about it like that, I was thinking about
Speaker 4: censoring people. I'm anti censorship, like I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: think anybody should be censored, but I understand where you're
Speaker 4: coming from from the business standpoint.
Speaker 1: I do. I do feel you though, and I do
Speaker 1: feel you with what's the man named Andrew? What Andrew take?
Speaker 4: Certain people should not be allowed to say certain things,
Speaker 4: especially if it causes harm to other people.
Speaker 1: But like I said before, is that podcast equipment or
Speaker 1: is that jail? Because there are rules.
Speaker 4: And laws against that, right, Like, you should not be
Speaker 4: able to go online and say things that's going to
Speaker 4: cause harm to a different group of people, and they're
Speaker 4: allowing people to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody's policing the internet. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: So do we get that with getting rid of the
Speaker 4: podcast equipment, or do we have like an FCC for
Speaker 4: the Internet.
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 5: I personally think there needs to be some type of
Speaker 5: CC or some type of overseeing of the Internet in general,
Speaker 5: not just podcasting overall, but the entire Internet is a
Speaker 5: is a wild place and it's on now.
Speaker 7: You need qualification. You should need qualifications to get a podcast.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 7: I agree, get a certificate or whatever you went to
Speaker 7: school for it, or journalism or whatever.
Speaker 1: She needs something, bro, you know what that Actually I'm happy.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought this question up, because that's actually
Speaker 4: a good freaking point. When we went to school for journalism,
Speaker 4: there was prerequisite you had to in order to get
Speaker 4: something published, right like you, Like you, You couldn't just
Speaker 4: go I'm gonna go to the New York Times and
Speaker 4: publish an article.
Speaker 1: I think that's the issue with podcasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just jump on camera and just start
Speaker 2: reporting without fact checks.
Speaker 4: And all sorts of stuff and not for nothing. I
Speaker 4: think that's what she's probably focusing on. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's more than that then censoring one side of the other.
Speaker 4: She's probably just talking about there's no qualifications for people
Speaker 4: to have a podcast.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and what what are the standards that you're holding
Speaker 8: yourselves to as podcast hosts? What are the standards that
Speaker 8: you hope your listeners hold themselves to as as consumers
Speaker 8: a podcast.
Speaker 4: That is a good point there, because that would take
Speaker 4: that think about what's his name, Andrew take if he
Speaker 4: had a responsibility that if someone off your podcast did
Speaker 4: something based off of what you said, you would be
Speaker 4: held responsible.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk so recklessly. And that's the problem.
Speaker 8: Well, there was one Landmark case. I can't remember the
Speaker 8: guy's name, but he was a podcast host, radio host,
Speaker 8: and he kept saying that Sandy Hook didn't happen.
Speaker 1: I saw that one.
Speaker 7: Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, Yeah, and.
Speaker 8: I think twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, maybe Stitcher made the
Speaker 8: decision to take his show off of their platform. And
Speaker 8: so all of these distribution channels have a choice about
Speaker 8: what they put on their platforms. They just choose not
Speaker 8: to exercise their choice. They were the first ones to
Speaker 8: take Alex Jones's stuff off their platforms, and then the
Speaker 8: other distribution channels followed, and then he ended up getting
Speaker 8: sued and he can't make podcasts and stuff anymore because
Speaker 8: he said, these white people's kids didn't die, you know,
Speaker 8: So it doesn't matter what we say. In a lot
Speaker 8: of times too, because people get so sensitive about the
Speaker 8: term misogyny even stuff like that. They're like, you can't
Speaker 8: censor that just because this man talks trash about women.
Speaker 8: That's not harming anybody. And so then it makes it
Speaker 8: harder for people to say, well, what can we decide
Speaker 8: can't be.
Speaker 4: Said, or well, then let me ask you that question,
Speaker 4: because even misogyny is such a targeted word that it's
Speaker 4: like men can't say things disparaging about women. Why is
Speaker 4: it okay for women to get up there and to
Speaker 4: speak disparagingly about men?
Speaker 1: And that is okay?
Speaker 3: Why it's okay.
Speaker 4: Though now I'm not talking about you or Triple. I
Speaker 4: know you guys don't think it's okay. What I'm saying
Speaker 4: is think about the overarching idea of what podcasts are doing.
Speaker 4: They're saying podcasts or damaging because misogyny exists in podcasting, right,
Speaker 4: Misogyny exists in everything. Let's be real, Like that's what
Speaker 4: Tripple said earlier, Like the power dynamic is off. That's
Speaker 4: why women should be able to speak But my thing
Speaker 4: is when we're talking about that, where a man can
Speaker 4: say something that can damage a woman, it shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 4: It should be both ways, even if there is a
Speaker 4: power in balance. For example, the young lady who told
Speaker 4: her brothers and her friends that it was a New
Speaker 4: York Giant player that he had an ex girlfriend or
Speaker 4: something in the house and he was cheating on her.
Speaker 4: So she told her homeboys and her brother. Her brother
Speaker 4: went over there and do with his brother. She told,
Speaker 4: I'm sending my brother.
Speaker 1: Over there to kill you.
Speaker 4: The dude sat in his house with a semi automatic weapon,
Speaker 4: him and his brother, and when the dudes rolled up,
Speaker 4: he shot them.
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's the power of you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, even a woman's voice, as much as
Speaker 4: women don't want to own that when a woman says
Speaker 4: something that shit matters, especially to.
Speaker 8: The men around them. You know what I'm saying, there
Speaker 8: should be good. My brother got set up by a
Speaker 8: woman and that's how he got murdered.
Speaker 4: So that's what and that's what I'm saying, Like that
Speaker 4: shouldn't be pushed aside as the power and balance. If
Speaker 4: we censor on people, we need to censor everybody. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, especially when it comes to violence.
Speaker 1: Wellhad, I just.
Speaker 8: Feel like what men say tends to lead more so
Speaker 8: to beliefs, you know what I'm saying, And the beliefs
Speaker 8: that women shouldn't have power or controlling their relationships. And
Speaker 8: women are more likely to be abused in relationships by
Speaker 8: a partner of the opposite sex, and women are more
Speaker 8: likely to be killed by their male partners. There's stuff
Speaker 8: like that. That, and women are more likely to be
Speaker 8: sexually assaulted by men. So it's like all of those
Speaker 8: things that are that come from beliefs that we hold
Speaker 8: about other people. They're not necessarily things that come from
Speaker 8: an inner personal relationship like I got this's not a
Speaker 8: crime of passion. When you get raped by your neighbor
Speaker 8: in the dorms, you know what I'm saying, Or if
Speaker 8: you get kidnapped from a random man on the street,
Speaker 8: that's not an inner personal relationship that you had. Or
Speaker 8: even when you get cat called, like walking down the street,
Speaker 8: I had on some shorts one time.
Speaker 1: I'm walking with a co work her and this is
Speaker 1: now he said it relieved.
Speaker 8: It says something extremely sexual about my butt, and I'm
Speaker 8: walking with this innocent co worker of mine and it's
Speaker 8: like the most embarrassing thing ever.
Speaker 1: But you also feel violated. This is a stranger, this
Speaker 1: isn't something.
Speaker 8: Then this comes from him believing that he should be
Speaker 8: able to talk to me that way because of how
Speaker 8: toxic masculinity, misogyny is ingrained into the society. Rape culture
Speaker 8: is ingrained into the society and the minds of men
Speaker 8: who are influenced by some of these people. I don't
Speaker 8: think misogyny or pick me culture is the only issue
Speaker 8: on podcasts.
Speaker 1: I think that, So why is there the only two
Speaker 1: that you chose to put on it. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: had a I'm saying when it came up there it
Speaker 1: was it was misogyny in no, I.
Speaker 8: Said, I said, bad takes, misogyny, pick me culture, and
Speaker 8: all of the other isms and phobia is perpetrated by.
Speaker 4: But you pointed out massogyny. That's the point though. The
Speaker 4: point is is that you said bad takes. That doesn't
Speaker 4: point at anything. Misogyny points that men, pick me culture
Speaker 4: points women who agree with men, and then you said
Speaker 4: all the other things.
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 8: I think those misogyny and pigmy culture are two of
Speaker 8: the biggest things. I feel like that people get bothered by,
Speaker 8: especially when it comes to the black pop.
Speaker 1: People or women get bothered by. I think people. I
Speaker 1: think people for sure.
Speaker 4: I doubt men get bothered by pickmy culture, and I
Speaker 4: doubt men be bothered by misogyny.
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 4: My point is that I feel like even the way
Speaker 4: that the question was framed, I thought she said that,
Speaker 4: But even when I hear people talk.
Speaker 1: About it, that's what they talk about. They always talk.
Speaker 3: About, like the term misogyny. Or you don't like to
Speaker 3: feel like men are always under attack.
Speaker 1: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: It's not that I don't like that. I honestly feel
Speaker 4: that right now there is attack on masculinity.
Speaker 3: I do feel maculinity in general.
Speaker 4: Masculinity in general. I feel like there is an attack.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you do as a man right now.
Speaker 1: It's wrong. Like if I.
Speaker 4: Am kind and soft to my kids, then I'm gonna
Speaker 4: raise a son who is not going to be masculine.
Speaker 4: If I if I'm a heart on him and I scream,
Speaker 4: then I'm too hard. I'm creating trauma. It's like there's
Speaker 4: no way for men in this world. Seems like to
Speaker 4: exist without offending someone. You understand what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: it just seems like that's becoming a trend where now
Speaker 4: more men is be like, you know what, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna say, you do nothing, and then women, like we've
Speaker 4: heard before, it be like, well the men ain't men.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like, how do you want me to men when
Speaker 4: you're taking away my power to do anything. Had a conversation,
Speaker 4: this is a true conversation with a bunch of women
Speaker 4: who were single and one man. Right, it was one
Speaker 4: man a bunch of women that were single, and they
Speaker 4: were just like, Deval, do you think you, as a
Speaker 4: husband should be able to control where Kadean goes? And
Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't think I should control,
Speaker 4: but I would like to know where she's going because
Speaker 4: I'm responsible for protecting her.
Speaker 1: And they were just like, well, you don't have to
Speaker 1: know what she's going to protect her.
Speaker 4: And I said, wait a minute, it's my job to
Speaker 4: protect you, and you don't feel like you should tell
Speaker 4: me what you're doing, And they said no, But it.
Speaker 8: Doesn't matter what those women think. No, what I'm saying
Speaker 8: is the one in relationship.
Speaker 1: And this my point, and that was exactly my point.
Speaker 1: You had a bunch of women who are not.
Speaker 4: In relationships with the overwhelming loud voice of I should
Speaker 4: not have to do this, but you still have to
Speaker 4: do this for me. And that's not called misogyny, that's
Speaker 4: not called toxic femininity, that's not called anything. They're just saying,
Speaker 4: I'm a woman, I have my opinion, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: this should be a conversation here. It shouldn't be your
Speaker 4: way is the only right way, and I have to
Speaker 4: coward because I'm a man and say no, I'm never
Speaker 4: gonna cow I'm never gonna do that. Like, that's just
Speaker 4: not I'm gonna have my opinion. I'm gonna raise my kids.
Speaker 4: I'm a Chivalry is not dead to me. I'm going
Speaker 4: to teach my kids to walk on the outside open doors.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like, yo, you have
Speaker 4: a responsibility to your wife is going here, find out
Speaker 4: where she's going, ask her what time she gonna be back,
Speaker 4: get some information, you know what I'm saying. It just
Speaker 4: seems like at this point in humanity, men ain't allowed
Speaker 4: to say nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily true. I feel like.
Speaker 8: If we take a look at the people that we're around,
Speaker 8: because I know of women who are in relationships with
Speaker 8: men who enjoy, you know, having a masculine man.
Speaker 1: A golden retriever. I heard somebody call it recently, somebody that's.
Speaker 8: Like sweet to them. They never have to open a
Speaker 8: car door, you know, whatever this is. Some people really
Speaker 8: enjoy that still, and you are allowed to do that
Speaker 8: when they have a relationship where that's in the agreements
Speaker 8: that they have.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you such.
Speaker 3: A beautiful golden retriever to me, baby, look.
Speaker 1: Look, look you just called me a golden Retriever.
Speaker 4: What if I called you a rott Waller, they would
Speaker 4: say I was being misogynistated.
Speaker 1: Like you me a dog?
Speaker 4: Like you openly called me a dog, and it was
Speaker 4: okay right. If I called her any type of animal,
Speaker 4: they would be on my ass.
Speaker 1: You compared your wife to an animal.
Speaker 3: Everybody loves the Golden retriever, though not me.
Speaker 1: I like pit bulls, I like cane corsos. I like
Speaker 1: aggressive dogs. That's what I like.
Speaker 4: But nah, but you understand what I'm saying, Like the
Speaker 4: whole podcast not opinion thing to me just comes back.
Speaker 4: It is like we don't want all these other people
Speaker 4: to have opinions. We only want our side to be heard,
Speaker 4: and I just hate that for both sides.
Speaker 1: To be honest.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why we've evolved from dead ass podcasts being
Speaker 2: a men versus women thing, which is what this conference.
Speaker 4: But I do like the fact that we can have
Speaker 4: this open conversation because it's more than just me and you.
Speaker 4: Tripple has a very unique take on it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, even your take on it with the finances.
Speaker 4: I never thought about that, and I was like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 4: like that does make sense. We could have renegotiated our
Speaker 4: deal way better if it weren't eight thousand podcasts popping
Speaker 4: up every single day. And I didn't even I was
Speaker 4: thinking about just censorship, and then said you would think
Speaker 4: about the business, which which also brings the point is
Speaker 4: why you need to have more voices and not censor people.
Speaker 4: Because here I got a different perspective from two women.
Speaker 4: And if I sat up parent and be like, well,
Speaker 4: women shouldn't have podcasts equipment, then I sound crazy, you
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. But if a woman is saying
Speaker 4: niggas shouldn't have podcasts equipment, everybody saying yeah, I'm like, nah, no,
Speaker 4: your opinion has opened my mind up, and I think
Speaker 4: everybody's opinion, even even Anthony Tate Andrew.
Speaker 8: It's making me so happy that you can't commit his
Speaker 8: name to memory, though that is beautiful.
Speaker 1: He not black. Neither is he Ah good good at
Speaker 1: least at least he not black.
Speaker 4: I could take away from that, but even him right
Speaker 4: when you hear someone's takes is so outrageous, and you
Speaker 4: hear that people really believe that.
Speaker 1: At least I know who the ops are. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: But I will push back and say, the reason why
Speaker 8: people believe that is the same reason that you have.
Speaker 1: Is that they hate that.
Speaker 8: They feel like there's an attack on masculinity and there's
Speaker 8: a pushback. I think the New York Times just did
Speaker 8: an article about this, and they did a survey asking
Speaker 8: men if they feel masculine or not, and it was like,
Speaker 8: most Republican men of a certain age feel more masculine
Speaker 8: because of this power in this rhetoric around, you know,
Speaker 8: controlling bodies, being able to say what you want, taking
Speaker 8: away DEI programs, literally having power and control over things
Speaker 8: that do not serve you. And so I think the
Speaker 8: reason why people gravitate towards Andrew Tata is because they're
Speaker 8: trying to learn masculinity because they feel like they don't
Speaker 8: know what it is or it's not being accepted, and
Speaker 8: they're trying to find a version of masculinity that they're
Speaker 8: getting from him because they believe that it is having
Speaker 8: power and control. I feel out of the loop now,
Speaker 8: So do I not me not knowing Andrew tATu am
Speaker 8: I old? Is he a young No, you shouldn't know him,
Speaker 8: but I think kids watch him on YouTube like teenagers preteen.
Speaker 3: That's also the thing, the impressionable mind.
Speaker 4: I don't follow things that serve what I'm trying to
Speaker 4: do purposefully, so I wouldn't even know check his we
Speaker 4: check his history, so if I ever saw that, I
Speaker 4: would have been like nah.
Speaker 8: But I will say there are globally, there's over three
Speaker 8: million active podcasts out there right now, and I think
Speaker 8: the stats that there's like four hundred and sixty thousand
Speaker 8: active podcasts on Apple Podcasts right now.
Speaker 5: Three million.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so there's more than that available. There's more than
Speaker 8: the Toxic show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's more than a toxic available. That's why
Speaker 1: I say you can't take away pot. That's why I
Speaker 1: think you can't take away fast equipment.
Speaker 5: I don't think you can. I think it's a new industry,
Speaker 5: just like the music industry is a new industry. You
Speaker 5: can't take away to top of music. I want to
Speaker 5: do that. Just choose not to listen to it. You're
Speaker 5: going to have to choose not to listen to this
Speaker 5: podcast if you don't want to listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 5: It's just a new industry. So everybody's just up in
Speaker 5: arms about there's no control on it.
Speaker 4: You know what it's like everybody being in the studio. Correct,
Speaker 4: everybody a rapper? But that body album.
Speaker 5: Because the split Fighter.
Speaker 1: But No actually actually was a great said. This is
Speaker 1: why Triple is the producer, because Trip will be knowing.
Speaker 4: This actually brings us into why we decided to change
Speaker 4: Dead Ass podcast for today. We did have a travel
Speaker 4: and this actually goes into the tech it does. Kadeen
Speaker 4: and I started that Ass podcast with Jest. It was
Speaker 4: supposed to be like just a prerequisite of how we
Speaker 4: write man versus women and how we work on our
Speaker 4: relationship through our opposing views as men and women.
Speaker 2: A man and women, well, I mean in our line
Speaker 2: when we enter the podcast saying that we kind of
Speaker 2: like work things out as a form of therapy, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, publicly with everywheel.
Speaker 2: So yeah, because it was always my perspective, your perspective
Speaker 2: as we grew over the past, where did we start
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen eighteen man, almost seven years almost seven years ago?
Speaker 4: I think I think the evolution came where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we've spent the past seven years discussing, Like we just
Speaker 4: discussed what are the issues we have as men in
Speaker 4: a marriage, as women in a marriage, and then it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: we've discussed this, how do we move forward? So now
Speaker 4: elis ever afterwards? Okay, we've discussed everything like we just
Speaker 4: discussed here as a group, how do you and I
Speaker 4: move forward? Word as a couple with a family with friends.
Speaker 4: Because when we talk about our family, we don't only
Speaker 4: talk about me, Kay, Jack, Kyro Kazdakota. We're also talking
Speaker 4: about your parents, my parents, We're talking about.
Speaker 1: Edible, Matt, Josh.
Speaker 4: This is all our this is all of us, our
Speaker 4: extended family, this is our ever after many of whom
Speaker 4: we've asked to relocate. You know what I'm saying, Matt
Speaker 4: now lives here, a triple now lives here, Josh is
Speaker 4: going to come here at some point.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to show people that a village of friends
Speaker 4: who are all creatives, who can do something together and.
Speaker 3: Built it together for the ground up.
Speaker 2: It wasn't one person already, you know, being quote unquote
Speaker 2: on and trying to like bring people up. It's like no,
Speaker 2: starting with people at a certain level and watching the
Speaker 2: ascension happen because we all are invested in the common goal,
Speaker 2: which is being great.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For example, this podcast, Yeah, and I love that the
Speaker 3: space for us.
Speaker 2: I think more recently, well dead ass podcasts at least
Speaker 2: started to kind of become deval and I kind of
Speaker 2: keeping y'all up to date with what's been happening.
Speaker 3: In our life because as things get.
Speaker 2: Busy, as more businesses fall on our plate, you know,
Speaker 2: devout filming me now new project, things.
Speaker 3: Are going to get hectic. Yeah, I don't. Thanks, Thanks Matt,
Speaker 3: big me out one more.
Speaker 1: Time, one more time.
Speaker 4: The reason why we're not getting to hype is because
Speaker 4: we can't really still disclose what she's filming, not quite
Speaker 4: so we kind of like holding it type.
Speaker 1: But we're excited about.
Speaker 2: It, so excited so this is going to be a
Speaker 2: way as well for us to keep y'all who have
Speaker 2: been so invested in us over the past seven years
Speaker 2: up to date on all of kind of like behind
Speaker 2: the scenes stuff as well, and still talking about how
Speaker 2: life and family and business and parenthood impact us on
Speaker 2: a regular basis.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 4: And we also chose to include our our I don't
Speaker 4: even want to say friend group, because it at this
Speaker 4: point we're not friends like before Tripple moved here and
Speaker 4: Matt was here and Josh they lived here when we
Speaker 4: did the podcast, Like, yeah, y'all don't realize this, but
Speaker 4: we filmed the podcast and these three people will be
Speaker 4: living here for a week and we will be filming
Speaker 4: the podcast talking about guests and topics, and we just
Speaker 4: felt like now is the time for us to elevate,
Speaker 4: get to a new level for all you creative. This
Speaker 4: is another thing that you have to think about marketability.
Speaker 4: When Kadeena and I first started that, we didn't understand
Speaker 4: the scope of what podcasting was. I was like, well,
Speaker 4: we get on mics and talk, I'll do that shit
Speaker 4: all day, not realizing that it was going to become
Speaker 4: its own medium and grow to what has become. So
Speaker 4: we came up with dead ass podcasts because we were like, yo,
Speaker 4: we're from New York, We're from Brooklyn. We being dead ass, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say exactly how I feel, Kay gonna say
Speaker 4: exactly how she feel. At the time, they were just like,
Speaker 4: we don't think we should call it dead ass. And
Speaker 4: I was like why, It's like, what ass is a curse?
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, as isn't a cursive if
Speaker 4: you use it in succession behind dead colloquially from New York.
Speaker 1: And they were like huh. I said, the bottom line
Speaker 1: is we're gonna call it dead ass, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do with it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, after seven years, the same conversation we had about
Speaker 4: Battle of the sexist, we don't want to do that
Speaker 4: no more. We want to come to an understanding of
Speaker 4: the sexes and move forward so we can all be happily.
Speaker 4: Ever after you feel me, I like, I see what you.
Speaker 1: Did this, You know what I like to you? And
Speaker 1: I were told you were told you would never have
Speaker 1: a show. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was told that I was going to never be
Speaker 4: on TV. Triple was told she was never going to
Speaker 4: have a podcast. I'm pretty sure Matt and Josh were
Speaker 4: both told that they wouldn't be able to do the
Speaker 4: things that they're doing, especially as directors. So it feels
Speaker 4: good to actually be able to show people that we're doing.
Speaker 2: This right and creating our own opportunities essentially, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, one thing we've never did was listen to you.
Speaker 1: Know everybody else do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we still don't to this day. And I
Speaker 3: think that's why.
Speaker 2: It's given us the courage and the permission for ourselves
Speaker 2: to just do something different.
Speaker 4: And it gives me the trip, the safety and the
Speaker 4: freedom to say trouble and know that she's going to
Speaker 4: be on camera. There are some facts and stacks.
Speaker 1: That you have, right, Yeah, I mean I just have
Speaker 1: some facts about the podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh this is like.
Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting. I haven't heard about this.
Speaker 3: Let's listen.
Speaker 8: This is just kind of a walk down memory lane
Speaker 8: because I started on the podcast in twenty nineteen. Yes,
Speaker 8: and I actually remember the first time I listened to
Speaker 8: the first episode. I was interviewing for the job, and
Speaker 8: I was like, man, why I got to do this
Speaker 8: podcast with these normies? But I loved it, and your
Speaker 8: chemistry was amazing. Earlier you mentioned y'all wanting to do
Speaker 8: the podcast to kind of grow into Cadeen's own day
Speaker 8: daytime TV show, And I remember in the studio, I'll
Speaker 8: be like, today, you need a daytime TV show and she.
Speaker 2: Was like that's the plan and I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: really look at you.
Speaker 8: But it just like it's very clear that you you
Speaker 8: have that talent. It comes through every time you're on
Speaker 8: the mic thank you trips. One of my favorite episodes
Speaker 8: was prenup er Nod. Do you remember that judge? Remember
Speaker 8: she came in, she was so honest.
Speaker 3: We were living in l A, l A at the time.
Speaker 4: We used to come in every week into two podcasts
Speaker 4: every Wednesday. Yeah, this was pre pandemic.
Speaker 8: And then we also had a an episode that did
Speaker 8: make the cut with an unnamed influencer. I think that
Speaker 8: was that was when I met the Like I knew
Speaker 8: Devo for like six months at this point, but that's
Speaker 8: when I met Val.
Speaker 4: Real quick story, but this influencer pretty much made her
Speaker 4: money and her ability to grow as an influencer talking
Speaker 4: about colorism. So Kadeena and I were like, Yo, let's
Speaker 4: have her come on here to talk about because she's
Speaker 4: a brown skinned woman.
Speaker 1: She came in here to talk about colorism. So first
Speaker 1: of all, she got there over an hour late. Over
Speaker 1: an hour late, and in a minute she came in.
Speaker 1: We didn't even meet her.
Speaker 4: First, we met her white male manager or handler. And
Speaker 4: then he came in after being an hour and a
Speaker 4: half late. Didn't apologize nothing that says she won't be
Speaker 4: discussing any of these things. All of the lists of
Speaker 4: things were discussing the things that made her very popular.
Speaker 4: And I was just like, well, where are we going
Speaker 4: to discuss it? And if she don't want to talk
Speaker 4: about it, and she has a whole bunch of other things.
Speaker 4: So we sat down for like what maybe twenty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I started asking questions and then he stepped in
Speaker 4: one time and said, yeah, she won't talk about that.
Speaker 4: I said, we don't got to do this interview. And
Speaker 4: I was out like okay, come on, let's go. Like
Speaker 4: that's and that episode never aired. It's funny that you
Speaker 4: remember that. Were you laughing in the back?
Speaker 7: I really was.
Speaker 4: I was like, dang, Yeah, I was pissed because I
Speaker 4: felt like it was it was a waste of time.
Speaker 4: I feel like she was being very distanging, like you're brown,
Speaker 4: skinned women who got famous talking about how brown skinned
Speaker 4: women don't get a fair shake in this industry.
Speaker 1: And here we are to lighter.
Speaker 4: Skinned people who understand how colorism is a problem. It's like, yo,
Speaker 4: let's talk about it, and she don't want to talk
Speaker 4: about it, or matter of fact, it wasn't her.
Speaker 1: He said she wasn't going to talk about it, and
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 4: Like, I can't, and then he was just like no,
Speaker 4: and then she listened, and that's when I was just like, yeah, well,
Speaker 4: and if we're not talking about it, then there's no
Speaker 4: reason to have this.
Speaker 1: I was hot. Do you remember how I was? I
Speaker 1: I wanted to fight that.
Speaker 3: Man she got introduced to.
Speaker 1: Are you not about to tell this black woman she's
Speaker 1: not talking about colorism? Nigga? What the fuck you know about?
Speaker 1: I was so mad. You're so mad right now? All
Speaker 1: my I look mad because we just talked about men
Speaker 1: cincining women.
Speaker 4: It's like, this is what made her famous, this, this
Speaker 4: is what got her the platform, and this is what
Speaker 4: our culture is still dealing with to this day. And you,
Speaker 4: a person who has no idea what this is about,
Speaker 4: it's going to tell her she shouldn't talk about this.
Speaker 3: It pissed me off, which is, do you have a
Speaker 3: favorite episode or moment I have?
Speaker 1: I have a lot. I actually have a lot of favorites,
Speaker 1: favorite episodes and moments. One of my very, very very
Speaker 1: favorite moments I can't even say that once I got
Speaker 1: another one I thought about.
Speaker 4: We did fifteen seasons, bro, I know, episode that's over
Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five episodes.
Speaker 3: It's like a blur.
Speaker 2: I almost don't have anything that's surfacing for me right now.
Speaker 2: I have dead ass live show moments.
Speaker 5: That's my favorite.
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing. I think. The live shows in
Speaker 3: general are just really like my thing. We all love
Speaker 3: the stage.
Speaker 4: Going to do another live show, but not a tour.
Speaker 4: We're not doing a tour. We're gonna do another live show.
Speaker 4: Our plan is doing the live show of course where.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn. We're gonna come back to New York.
Speaker 4: We gonna do a big live show and when we
Speaker 4: find the time, but it's gonna happen because we have
Speaker 4: to do an LS ever after live show.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, now that we're here, you know, and
Speaker 2: y'all got to buy all this dead ass merch. Sidebar
Speaker 2: shout out to Kwame who's back.
Speaker 3: Behind the cameras as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Deadass Merch is now going to be on sale
Speaker 2: and it's going to be a collector's item at this
Speaker 2: point because there's no more dead Ass. So make sure
Speaker 2: you get right, makes sure you get your hoodie, your
Speaker 2: T shirt, your hats. Yeah, because once they're gone, they're gone.
Speaker 2: They're like collector's items at this point.
Speaker 4: I feel like I was balancing between episodes. I think
Speaker 4: one of my favorite episode is with Angel and Marcus
Speaker 4: was talking about marriage. But Angel is a clown right, like,
Speaker 4: she's hilarious and Marcus is so like straight And this
Speaker 4: was before Marcus started to become more personality, and Marcus
Speaker 4: is kind of sitting there like, I don't really know
Speaker 4: why she had me come on here. I know there's
Speaker 4: a couple of things, but it was just so funny
Speaker 4: because throughout the episode he started to open up and
Speaker 4: we realized how much we had in common because they
Speaker 4: have four kids. At the time, we only had three.
Speaker 4: It was only boys, so there was so much synergy
Speaker 4: between them. But I also loved Melissa and Kevin on stage,
Speaker 4: Like I think it's the relationship aspect and seeing people
Speaker 4: who have been in relationships just as long as we
Speaker 4: and we talked about like our issues and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, wait a minute, you go through that. Oh, you
Speaker 1: go through that too.
Speaker 4: And then seeing Melissa, it's like, wait a minute, you
Speaker 4: and I are the same and yeah, that to me
Speaker 4: those and I think this. Me and Tripple had talked
Speaker 4: about this growing up. I had believed that all men
Speaker 4: thought the same way and all women thought the same way,
Speaker 4: especially in relationships. And this is why I loved doing
Speaker 4: dead Ass podcast when we sat down with so many
Speaker 4: different couples and I realized that some of the issues
Speaker 4: I have women have those issues with their spouse and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so that's not a man thing. So
Speaker 4: me trying to fix this with testosterone ain't gonna work.
Speaker 4: I gotta fix this with another you know. I have
Speaker 4: to open up a different eye to have empathy for
Speaker 4: my wife in a different way other than saying, well,
Speaker 4: I'm just a man and she just a and that's
Speaker 4: how it is. Those relationships, those relationship podcasts really like.
Speaker 4: I love those, even though the after shows when Me
Speaker 4: and Trouble be arguing and I can get a different
Speaker 4: perspective from someone in a different walk of life.
Speaker 1: Those are my favorites.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the ones that I've
Speaker 2: learned from I think were my favorite. So for example,
Speaker 2: like I felt like after a while, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we having all these topics about sex,
Speaker 2: all these conversations about sex, and I'm just like, man, like,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of talking about it. People are probably tired
Speaker 2: listening to it. But then no, people will like talk
Speaker 2: about it more because I have the same issues. But
Speaker 2: I think it's the self discovery through those episodes as
Speaker 2: well as the parenting episodes when we had all this
Speaker 2: where I was just like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 2: believe I did that, or it's like I've taken something
Speaker 2: that I maybe didn't understand with your way of parenting
Speaker 2: and realize like, damn, that's something that actually could be
Speaker 2: applicable to me too. Like those self discovery moments over
Speaker 2: the past seven years, I think has really helped my
Speaker 2: growth as an individual, as a wife, as a mode,
Speaker 2: as a friend, as a daughter, as a career woman.
Speaker 2: You know, those teachable learning moments. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why so many people resonate to begin with with dead
Speaker 2: Ass podcast, because.
Speaker 3: Through talking about our experiences, sometimes having vent sessions, sometimes
Speaker 3: calling it an expert.
Speaker 1: Sometimes have we vented a lot?
Speaker 4: Like I honestly feel like people got a chance to
Speaker 4: know who we really are through listening to the podcast.
Speaker 4: Like I've always been honest about how I feel about things,
Speaker 4: backlash or not, because I only get one chance at life,
Speaker 4: and I'm not gonna pretend to do something else that
Speaker 4: I really don't believe in, because then I got to
Speaker 4: pretend that for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: So I just say how I feel. My favorite guest
Speaker 1: to date is gonna always.
Speaker 4: Be Tiffany elij the budgetista, Like, yeah, yeah, I've learned
Speaker 4: so much from her financially that's helped create I mean,
Speaker 4: even these opportunities about and people think the budget Nisa,
Speaker 4: She's gonna tell you how to put your money. No,
Speaker 4: she explains to you the importance difference between having a
Speaker 4: certified financial planner and an accountant.
Speaker 1: Small little things that you're like, oh, shoot, that is different.
Speaker 4: Well maybe I should focus more on my financial planning
Speaker 4: than accountant. Yeah, you know, like she Tiffany budgeanista, I
Speaker 4: love you girl, like you. I think she's probably one
Speaker 4: of the fan favorites as well. On then A's podcast,
Speaker 4: A Guess that they always say we should have on
Speaker 4: because so many people have.
Speaker 1: Learned a lot.
Speaker 3: My favorite guess is Shan.
Speaker 4: It's funny you say you hate talking about sex with
Speaker 4: the sham Boudram is one of your favorite guests, But
Speaker 4: I understand why.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I just love her candor. I love how
Speaker 2: she's just so honest. Something about her whole energy and
Speaker 2: her heart spirit is super calming. I love that she
Speaker 2: always speaks from a place of like, no judgment. She's
Speaker 2: just kind of like it is what it is. But
Speaker 2: she also comes with an educational background that's a legitimate
Speaker 2: when we talk about someone having a podcast and speaking
Speaker 2: as an expert because they've actually studied their field.
Speaker 3: She is exactly that.
Speaker 4: She's also the exact example of a woman having a
Speaker 4: podcast where I would tell my friends I've said this
Speaker 4: all the time on other podcasts, like my boys who
Speaker 4: have issues with sex and stuff, I tell them, listen
Speaker 4: to Shane. That's why I listen to to learn about
Speaker 4: your body, your mentality, what you were going through. That's
Speaker 4: a perfect example of if we limited people from having
Speaker 4: podcasts that wild person, Like, if y'all limit Shan, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a problem, right because she definitely. She definitely
Speaker 4: saved us from a lot of things because I was
Speaker 4: able to see and hear what she was saying from
Speaker 4: a different you know, from a different woman's perspective, and
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1: Shannon is a good one.
Speaker 4: My favorite episode because people say it's theirs, it's selling ground.
Speaker 4: And the only reason why I say it's my favorite
Speaker 4: is because people always say I changed the trajectory of
Speaker 4: my family by just listening to that, because I could
Speaker 4: explain to them why we didn't don't need to hold
Speaker 4: on to this property, use it as an asset so
Speaker 4: that we can get more properties. So that's also one
Speaker 4: of my Now I'm going over to I got so
Speaker 4: many favorite episodes.
Speaker 3: Any other favorites.
Speaker 5: I got her favorite moment. It's from a life show
Speaker 5: when you brought the boy, when the boys introduced you.
Speaker 4: Ah yeah, yeah, literally was just I said I wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna cry, and I cried like a little bit happily too.
Speaker 2: I was back there so like you were, and it
Speaker 2: was wanting his own microphone. He was just like, wait
Speaker 2: a second, my brothers haven't couldn't talk talk.
Speaker 4: Was pointing at it like yo yo, and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: my man. It was mister Mike. Like, mister Mike, you
Speaker 4: to give him a mic, and they gave him one.
Speaker 4: Turns it on everything. He ain't say nothing, but he
Speaker 4: danced around with it. That's a good That's a good moment, Josh.
Speaker 9: No, no opinion, Josh, first and last day on the
Speaker 9: I mean they're all memorable.
Speaker 7: Well, the funniest one was when disclosed her.
Speaker 3: The moment, Oh oh, who was that episode with?
Speaker 5: I was with Kid.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was listening letters episode. Shout out to kids.
Speaker 3: I feel they're like our fairy god parents in the
Speaker 3: in the him and Crystal.
Speaker 1: They're not liked they are. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They literally introduced us like to this the world. Essentially.
Speaker 1: The first podcast read we did was the Read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Reads.
Speaker 4: And then I think that's how I started to get
Speaker 4: more interested in podcasts. People were tagging us and saying, like, Yo,
Speaker 4: they y'all want to read. They talked about y'all want
Speaker 4: to read, which also helped boost our following on social
Speaker 4: media forever. We went to their show, their live show,
Speaker 4: and that's when we were just like, yo, we should
Speaker 4: do some podcast live. So so shout out to Chrissy
Speaker 4: and Kid Ferry, what's your favorite episode Triple.
Speaker 8: Well, I said mine first, Mine was prenup or Nah,
Speaker 8: oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right from back
Speaker 8: in the day. I did also like Kadeen's poop story.
Speaker 8: It's something like something about a hot lady saying something
Speaker 8: disgusting about herself that.
Speaker 3: I'm like and just not caring.
Speaker 2: It humanizes I feel like, because everyone probably has had
Speaker 2: a moment, you've expressed.
Speaker 5: It or not.
Speaker 8: If somebody I'm dating, if somebody I'm dating is like, oh, Kadeen, fine,
Speaker 8: I'd be like, you know she's on.
Speaker 1: The oh yeah, oh yeah, I have that now in
Speaker 1: my back brock. So thank you.
Speaker 3: You're welcome. Y'all are welcome.
Speaker 8: I do have another favorite moment that uh would be
Speaker 8: the first live show I feel like. It was February
Speaker 8: twenty twenty. I was at a film festival. I had
Speaker 8: a short film in a film festival. Is a really
Speaker 8: exciting moment for me. First time helping them produce a
Speaker 8: live show. Very exciting. Y'all were having an exciting moment.
Speaker 8: We're in two different cities. Your manager at the time
Speaker 8: calls me and says, you need some cue cards, and
Speaker 8: I'm in Boston.
Speaker 1: Y'all are in Philly, Yeah.
Speaker 8: At the film festival, and I'm yeah, I'm busy, bro,
Speaker 8: I'm off the clock, off the class. It's like eight
Speaker 8: o'clock at night, the snow storm outside. I hustle and
Speaker 8: make these cue cards and send them to your manager
Speaker 8: so she can get them printed, so she can get
Speaker 8: them in your hands before stage time.
Speaker 1: Get them in your hand, and then I don't find
Speaker 1: out until.
Speaker 3: Weeks later.
Speaker 8: Later they run the footage back and DEVO first thirty
Speaker 8: seconds of the show.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even take that long.
Speaker 8: I would say fifteen seconds in Devao tosses the fucking
Speaker 8: Q cards to I don't I don't need them. I
Speaker 8: don't need them. That is a favorite memory of mine.
Speaker 8: I think about it every time I print a que card. So, yeah,
Speaker 8: thank you, We're going to take a break and pay
Speaker 8: some bills. That is That's like the fourth time you
Speaker 8: brought that story. But I had to tell the story
Speaker 8: again because I think starting there, that was the first
Speaker 8: live show, and the live shows have evolved so much
Speaker 8: like then then. I feel like, was it it was
Speaker 8: video recorded, but you maybe had one camera camera. Yeah,
Speaker 8: the DJ was there and.
Speaker 1: It was just young no guests.
Speaker 4: No, it was an executive at that time. It was
Speaker 4: we didn't have exact they had a house DJ. They
Speaker 4: had a house DJ. We had to meet and greet beforehand.
Speaker 7: Yes, then come to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: So that was essentially started that to a live shows.
Speaker 2: Like think about everyone doing live shows now podcast shows.
Speaker 2: It's like there's all sorts of stuff happening.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: That So that's what I was going to say with
Speaker 8: the live shows, with the setup, especially since that that
Speaker 8: show was right before the pandemic and since post pandemic,
Speaker 8: I feel like you've gotten to kind of innovate the
Speaker 8: way that we do the podcast, and it's been very influential,
Speaker 8: if I do say so myself. But we've gone from
Speaker 8: not being able to get the go pros to work
Speaker 8: at the studio.
Speaker 3: We did that, y'all.
Speaker 10: We did that.
Speaker 1: We've gone from trying to use go pro.
Speaker 4: I remember that get them to work go pro and
Speaker 4: we were in the studio and we had go pros
Speaker 4: one on k Oh my God to do video of
Speaker 4: the podcast.
Speaker 5: I remember watching those episod It's terrible them go pros
Speaker 5: its like there.
Speaker 1: Was like the fish bowl like my face.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this? This is not flattering.
Speaker 4: Well, before we go pay some bills, I do have
Speaker 4: to say I appreciate y'all because everything y'all see here, cameras, lights,
Speaker 4: run of shows, creative direction have been from those three
Speaker 4: people you're watching on camera right now and Kadeen and
Speaker 4: I honestly feel like it's about time y'all get in
Speaker 4: front of cameras so people can see who y'all are,
Speaker 4: and like when they see this whole set up and
Speaker 4: realize what this is, they're going to be like, Wow,
Speaker 4: this is no longer just a podcast. This is an experience,
Speaker 4: and this is an experience that we want to win
Speaker 4: awards for and we want to be critically acclaimed, so
Speaker 4: we're gonna do everything in our power. Also, shout out
Speaker 4: to the Patreon people. Pay your membership every money for
Speaker 4: a lady asked why Patreon? This is why Patreon. The
Speaker 4: people who have invested in the Patreon you are now
Speaker 4: seeing and reaping the benefits of your little four dollars
Speaker 4: a month. It don't seem like a lot before the
Speaker 4: five dollars a month. And now we have cameras, and
Speaker 4: now we have a camera crew.
Speaker 1: Now we have life.
Speaker 4: It's not little now. Yeah, we don't think it's We
Speaker 4: don't think it's little. But I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people is like, what are they going to do with
Speaker 4: my little four dollars? This is what we're doing with
Speaker 4: your little four dollars. It's called group economics.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You got a bunch of people put together, and now
Speaker 4: we're able to provide y'all better content because y'all invested
Speaker 4: in us.
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, Triple.
Speaker 4: Josh Matt, we love y'all, yes, like like seriously, like
Speaker 4: we really really love y'all. We love y'all back, and
Speaker 4: we appreciate y'all taking this journey with us. Patreon family,
Speaker 4: shout out to yourself. Round of applause for yourself, because
Speaker 4: you're part of the reason why we're able to do
Speaker 4: what we're doing in our home. Yes, thank you Patreon.
Speaker 4: All of the equipment you see on your top TV
Speaker 4: shows we have now because of you, So thank you.
Speaker 2: So you just want to elevate the experience for y'all, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Ever after I see a little tear at the side
Speaker 2: of your eye.
Speaker 4: No, this is a laugh tier because because it's Triple
Speaker 4: we're telling the story here. It literally was as soon
Speaker 4: as I got on, I was like, what's up that
Speaker 4: ass podcast?
Speaker 1: Triple got me these que cars? Fuck these que cars?
Speaker 4: And I threw them ships just like that. And I
Speaker 4: remember Triple said afterwards like, yeah, you know how long
Speaker 4: I took. I was somewhere to go make the Q
Speaker 4: cars and ever since then I give kt Q cars.
Speaker 3: So nobody thought, let's go pay So you should throw
Speaker 3: the bills like you throw the Q cars.
Speaker 1: Wish I could. You can catch them now, money bags
Speaker 1: Eli period.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back y'all, And we're back, yes,
Speaker 2: yeah to my favorite part of the show. That's something
Speaker 2: that hasn't changed still, like to getting y'all business evolution.
Speaker 1: You don't even have a iPad, no more laptop. You
Speaker 1: got cars.
Speaker 7: I do, I do.
Speaker 2: I felt like the laptop after a while was just
Speaker 2: cumbersome and well I had the laugh you could use
Speaker 2: your iPad you because yeah.
Speaker 5: You did that before I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember memories, bro, I'm trying to remember. Trying to
Speaker 1: forget certain things. You leave it up to your friends.
Speaker 3: A certain iPad into the off the balcony.
Speaker 4: Off you co signed the triple that's messed up and Josh,
Speaker 4: don't remember none of that. Josh, you remember that? No
Speaker 4: bro see no opinion, It didn't have no.
Speaker 2: While we're gonna get paddles sidebar, you got to get
Speaker 2: those I love that.
Speaker 4: Things to do you using the pot jist no trauma
Speaker 4: Capital easy, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, yeah, I'm still nosy, still like to
Speaker 2: hear what you got to say, and we're always gonna
Speaker 2: give our two cents as you continue to write in.
Speaker 2: We're going to give the new email address at the
Speaker 2: end of this episode where you're write into for advice
Speaker 2: or to just chit chat with us. Well, triple, here's
Speaker 2: the first one listener letter of Ellis ever after Hey
Speaker 2: kay and Deval, It's Kayla here. Hey Kayla, I wanted
Speaker 2: to give you your flowers and wanted to share some
Speaker 2: seriously amazing news.
Speaker 3: I love amazing news.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Last year I wrote in, and you guys featured my
Speaker 2: letter both on the podcast and Patreon.
Speaker 3: Seriously, you all were life savers. Your advice helped me.
Speaker 2: So much, Capitals Oh in navigating my eight year relationship.
Speaker 2: I absorbed every single piece of wisdom that you shared
Speaker 2: and it all paid off big time.
Speaker 3: This past October. My boyfriend proposed.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 3: I'm engaged. Our wedding is October eleventh. I feel like
Speaker 3: we need to be there. Drop the invitation.
Speaker 2: My now fiance and I are huge fans and we're
Speaker 2: religiously listening to the podcast and Patreon together. We just
Speaker 2: wanted to express our sincere gratitude for everything you do.
Speaker 2: You've created something truly special and we're so grateful to
Speaker 2: be a part of the dead Ass community and Patreon gang.
Speaker 2: Huge love to Kadeen, Devout and the whole dead ask
Speaker 2: for you guys are top tier. Sincerely, Kayla, Come on,
Speaker 2: that's why we do it.
Speaker 1: This is stop, y'all.
Speaker 2: Where If there are tariffs on the MIC, I guess
Speaker 2: we'll have to pay them. I don't know, because this
Speaker 2: is the reason we keep going.
Speaker 3: Babe. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Ya just makes me wow happy.
Speaker 2: And here we are a lot of times saying like
Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers we really give advice.
Speaker 2: We still don't, but I'm happy to hear that our
Speaker 2: two sins have now multiplied for you and you guys
Speaker 2: are engaged.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: That's what's wow.
Speaker 3: Keep us posted, Kayla on all the HAPs Okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: That's what's up man. All right, prid of you guys
Speaker 4: much love, and let us know when the wedding is.
Speaker 4: You know, if we free October level if it's in Atlanta,
Speaker 4: we'll stop through all right now Number two, Dear Kadeen
Speaker 4: and Daval, I want to start off by saying I
Speaker 4: love your platform and whatever represents.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Now my problem.
Speaker 4: I am a thirty year old medical professional married to
Speaker 4: a thirty four year old fitness professional. We met online
Speaker 4: and fell for each other emotionally, spiritually and intellectually.
Speaker 1: I love that. So the problem is money.
Speaker 4: Of course, I make six figures, but it definitely doesn't
Speaker 4: feel like it after taxes and blessed student loans if
Speaker 4: they live in New York. I understand that my husband
Speaker 4: makes less than fifty k a year. I was okay
Speaker 4: with it at first, but now that we have a
Speaker 4: house and are trying to start having a baby, I
Speaker 4: am worried. I honestly got a second job so we
Speaker 4: could furnish and renovate our home because I can't count
Speaker 4: on him to supply money because he does pay for
Speaker 4: all the utilities and half of the mortgage with what
Speaker 4: he makes. He's been in fitness for ten plus years
Speaker 4: and has a gentle soul that caters to middle aged adults.
Speaker 4: He's dabbled a little in the online space, but hasn't
Speaker 4: gotten any clients.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's grinding there.
Speaker 4: I also feel like he is okay with what he
Speaker 4: makes because I feel there's very little sense of urgency,
Speaker 4: Like when he's home, he's relaxing on video games.
Speaker 1: I hate that.
Speaker 4: On my day off, I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 4: I can make more to live more comfortably, which has
Speaker 4: made me realize I need to get him to have
Speaker 4: online clients. He has no interest in getting any job
Speaker 4: that would require him to have a boss, even though
Speaker 4: he would make more. I understand, because yes, he has
Speaker 4: more liberties being self employed. However, taking off more than
Speaker 4: a week per month is a problem for my husband
Speaker 4: because he can't because then he can't make money because
Speaker 4: he doesn't have an online presence. Mind you, it's not
Speaker 4: like I'm a gold digger wanting to go I don't
Speaker 4: think you're gold digger. Neither want to go on lovest vacations.
Speaker 4: I barely have time for that. I just want when
Speaker 4: we go on vacation. He's not trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to rebound. I want to help him make more
Speaker 4: of an online presence, so we're both not at a strain.
Speaker 4: What are your suggestions to grab more clients and build
Speaker 4: an online fitness empire.
Speaker 3: Well, that's something that you've done kind of that is online.
Speaker 1: Space, not in an online space, but but yes, there
Speaker 1: are ways.
Speaker 4: First and foremost, shout out to y'all for working together
Speaker 4: as an entrepreneur and also in a medical space. I
Speaker 4: do also understand her mentality because she works based on salary,
Speaker 4: so she's used to getting a certain amount of money.
Speaker 4: He doesn't work on salary, so he's not used to
Speaker 4: getting a certain amount of money. This is my first issue.
Speaker 4: If you make less than fifty thousand dollars and you
Speaker 4: want to make more money, there should be no reason
Speaker 4: in the world why you wann video games at any
Speaker 4: point in your life. I just had this argument with
Speaker 4: someone very close to me, and I screamed at him,
Speaker 4: get off the fucking video games.
Speaker 1: Literally right.
Speaker 4: If you have time in the day, that time in
Speaker 4: the day should be going towards how you are going
Speaker 4: to create more money or more revenue to help supplement
Speaker 4: your wife or your partner, whoever that is.
Speaker 1: That's number one, number two in the fitness space.
Speaker 4: You have to understand that the greatest way for you
Speaker 4: to make money isn't only in customer retention.
Speaker 1: It's also in small group training. And it's just for
Speaker 1: me from knowing.
Speaker 4: If you tell one of your clients, right, hey, I'll
Speaker 4: give you half four off your session if you bring
Speaker 4: three people to your session.
Speaker 1: Right, this is what I use a marketing strategy. And
Speaker 1: they're like, wait a minute.
Speaker 4: I pay At the time, it wasn't super expensive, but
Speaker 4: it was sixty dollars per session, and they're like, wait,
Speaker 4: I can do thirty dollars per session if I bring
Speaker 4: three people.
Speaker 1: They were like yeah, They're like, but how does that
Speaker 1: work for me?
Speaker 4: I said, it's going to help you because you pay less,
Speaker 4: but also you have people to compete with. And what
Speaker 4: people don't realize about losing weight or losing body fat,
Speaker 4: most of it is motivation. If you have someone in
Speaker 4: your group that's doing the same thing as you. You guys,
Speaker 4: work harder, iron sharpens iron. If you come there every
Speaker 4: day for an hour to work harder, you'll lose more weight.
Speaker 4: But here comes the economics. You bring one person and
Speaker 4: they pay half off, it's the same price you bring
Speaker 4: three people. Now you're doubling your quota for the hour.
Speaker 4: So from sixty dollars an hour down to thirty for
Speaker 4: that person, and all those other people are paying thirty dollars. Now,
Speaker 4: how much we got one hundred and twenty dollars per hour.
Speaker 4: Now you just doubled what you make. Plus you doubled
Speaker 4: your reach because you have four people that you can
Speaker 4: tell them, Hey, if you have anyone else who wants
Speaker 4: to train, let them know I can give them a
Speaker 4: discount rate. That's the first thing, maxt in your time, yes,
Speaker 4: because when you duplicate yourself, you give yourself autonomy over
Speaker 4: that time.
Speaker 1: The other thing is online training.
Speaker 4: Online training is imperfect if you create programs before you
Speaker 4: create online training, create online programs that you can sell
Speaker 4: to people. I've seen people make hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 4: dollars per quarter.
Speaker 1: Am I lying?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know two people that come right off the
Speaker 3: bat to mine from online.
Speaker 2: I mean in an online program that's like twenty nine
Speaker 2: ninety nine yes, or like an eight week program.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And you think about that times how many people we have.
Speaker 1: I mean, you had a large following on social media.
Speaker 2: Right, but you get a thousand people that following, you know,
Speaker 2: and the proof is in the pudding. Like be a
Speaker 2: good trainer.
Speaker 3: That's also a part of it too.
Speaker 2: You want to have people that are actually making a
Speaker 2: change and you can see the difference in the before
Speaker 2: and after. Sometimes help with that as well, to you
Speaker 2: to keep people motivated, to say, I want to look
Speaker 2: like that. It's a fickle industry because you have people
Speaker 2: who are you know, on again, off again.
Speaker 3: But if you're a good trainer, there's potential there for sure.
Speaker 4: Most of the trainers I know now making their money
Speaker 4: on online programs or a program that I was thinking
Speaker 4: about called Prototype on Demand when I was doing Prototype
Speaker 4: Sports Performance where you can train people virtually and you
Speaker 4: do virtual classes. That's another way if you've never thought
Speaker 4: about it. So you have online programs, virtual classes, online
Speaker 4: sessions for one on one, online group classes.
Speaker 1: That's always for.
Speaker 4: You to get autonomy over your time rather than losing
Speaker 4: time going from place to place a personal person. This
Speaker 4: is the most important thing, though, I think I have
Speaker 4: to say, gentlemen, this may sound very old school, but
Speaker 4: this is something that my father had always said to me.
Speaker 4: If you decide to marry a woman and you want
Speaker 4: that woman to have your child or your children, it
Speaker 4: is not her responsibility to be an earner. The reason
Speaker 4: why is because there's a lot that comes with carrying
Speaker 4: a child, and then half after carrying a child, nurturing
Speaker 4: that child and asking a person to balance a career
Speaker 4: and nurturing a child is very difficult. So, as a man,
Speaker 4: if you're asking your wife or your girl to have children,
Speaker 4: be prepared fiscally to handle that responsibility on your own. Now,
Speaker 4: if she finds a way to balance, it can help you.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: It's a surplus, that's extra. But as a dude, this
Speaker 4: is one thing my dad told me, and my grandfather
Speaker 4: told me. If you have a child, and what if
Speaker 4: that woman can't work? What if she has a baby
Speaker 4: like you had and had twenty four stitches in your
Speaker 4: cervix and you can't work, what are you then gonna
Speaker 4: tell your wife and you going to suck that up?
Speaker 1: Get out there?
Speaker 4: No, what if she's dealing with postpartum depression? What if
Speaker 4: she has hormone and balance? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: there are things that happen to women. As a man,
Speaker 4: any man, young man, older man, if you're looking to
Speaker 4: have kids, make sure that you and your wallet can
Speaker 4: handle that responsibility.
Speaker 1: Don't try to pass that on.
Speaker 4: As we're gonna split this fifty to fifty mortgage can
Speaker 4: be f less up, but when it comes time to
Speaker 4: have kids, she got to carry it.
Speaker 1: She can't pass that fifty to fifty, right.
Speaker 3: Sure can't.
Speaker 1: She got a birth for right that she can't pass
Speaker 1: the birth and thing right now. So you can't pass that, bro.
Speaker 4: Sorry, it may seem old school or I'm jumping on
Speaker 4: you as a man, but got to deal with that.
Speaker 1: I can't tell her to pass on the placenter.
Speaker 3: Sure can't.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, Good luck to y'all as y'all navigate,
Speaker 2: and yeah, try to figure this out. They're married, they
Speaker 2: say they're married. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good
Speaker 2: conversation to have to at least y'all have in the conversation.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's recepted.
Speaker 1: To get off the games, bro, seriously, like that's just
Speaker 1: killing your brain and your time.
Speaker 3: Indeed.
Speaker 2: All right, So if you want to be featured as
Speaker 2: a listener, y'all, we have a new email address. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's the Ellis Advice at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: That's t h E E L L I S A
Speaker 1: d V I C E at Gmail.
Speaker 3: So moment of truth time.
Speaker 1: This is the first moment of truth for us ever.
Speaker 3: A moment of truth.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought, we go back to a question that
Speaker 2: we didn't quite get to as the moment of truth
Speaker 2: and we can have everybody answer it.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to as a team with
Speaker 3: Elis ever After?
Speaker 4: Much like we did in a live space, I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to changing the way people consume podcasts because we
Speaker 4: are about to elevate the game.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward to. That was a great question, Pardoner, Thank.
Speaker 3: You all good.
Speaker 2: Actually you kind of stole a part of mine, but
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I'm looking forward to collectively
Speaker 2: elevating the Ellis ever After experience. We saw what we
Speaker 2: were able to do with dead Ass starting seven years
Speaker 2: ago when we almost had no idea what podcasting was
Speaker 2: at the time, and I think that dead Ass really
Speaker 2: was able to set the tone and raise the bar
Speaker 2: and change the way people consume podcasting audio wise but
Speaker 2: also visually and then in the live show space. I
Speaker 2: want to give us our flowers and say that we
Speaker 2: were pioneers in that, you know, in that space, So I'm.
Speaker 3: Period you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to the heights that we can
Speaker 2: go to with Ellis ever after, now that we are
Speaker 2: in a new space with new energy, getting input formally Trouble,
Speaker 2: Josh and Matt, and collectively finding a way to make
Speaker 2: sure that this is going to be the experience that
Speaker 2: you guys have been waiting for.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4: Before we ask everybody else, I also just want to
Speaker 4: say I want to continue to share how we do
Speaker 4: things and build and continue to not gatekeep information absolutely,
Speaker 4: So I look forward to over these next couple of
Speaker 4: years letting you guys know how we're building and developed
Speaker 4: the podcast, the next live show, TV shows, films, books,
Speaker 4: We have so many things on the horizon and we
Speaker 4: look forward to showing you how we're doing it so
Speaker 4: that you guys can take that information and doing yourself.
Speaker 4: You don't need nobody to give you an opportunity, go
Speaker 4: make it on your own.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys. Before I passed the mic twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four for us, I felt like was a very
Speaker 2: It was a trying year in that it was a
Speaker 2: transitional year from us change, a lot of change, a
Speaker 2: lot of trying to navigate things professionally and also from
Speaker 2: a personal perspective, and we were able to plant a
Speaker 2: lot of seeds in twenty twenty four. And I read
Speaker 2: somewhere recently through someone, It's just funny how God sends
Speaker 2: messages to you through people that this was going to
Speaker 2: be collectively for you and I the year of harvest.
Speaker 2: And when I saw that, I almost got like supermo
Speaker 2: actually kind of did get really emotional because I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's exactly the conversation I had with God at the
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty four, and I felt like he
Speaker 2: pushed us into a certain direction that forced us to
Speaker 2: kind of recalibrate plant those seeds and for twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five at the very top of the year, and this
Speaker 2: is a separate episode that I'm going to recant the
Speaker 2: story at the top of the year, getting a text
Speaker 2: message from someone that completely changed my life and further
Speaker 2: confirmed to me that this is going to be the year.
Speaker 3: Of harvest for us moving forward.
Speaker 2: So I'm super excited for the blessings that are on
Speaker 2: en route and the ones that have already taken place.
Speaker 2: I'm just super excited.
Speaker 8: Trude, what are you looking forward to or elis after
Speaker 8: ever After? Yeah, man, I'm looking forward to the new
Speaker 8: iteration of this podcast. I'm looking forward to talking more.
Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the dms. You know what I'm
Speaker 8: saying if you out there, because only single one on
Speaker 8: the team you are. I'm looking forward to getting married
Speaker 8: later this year to one of y'all.
Speaker 4: And stop asking me if Triple is really gay triple
Speaker 4: gay gay triple. Don't like dude, she loves women, so
Speaker 4: stop asking me.
Speaker 1: I know she's fine.
Speaker 3: She don't want y'all do eligible bachelor.
Speaker 5: With her?
Speaker 2: With her?
Speaker 8: You like trible?
Speaker 1: Your hair?
Speaker 8: No haird like I said earlier, a little hair and
Speaker 8: on stop nothing but comb.
Speaker 1: You know I can tell you by your sweater. You
Speaker 1: like here, give me a little fun, So Trible looking
Speaker 1: forward to the hose? Matt, what you looking forward.
Speaker 5: To the hose? Uh? This is new for me, like
Speaker 5: speaking in general, but I think it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to this getting I'm getting used to
Speaker 5: the idea of people opening up and people getting to
Speaker 5: know me, learn the artists and stuff those things, so.
Speaker 1: That Josh I ain't sign up for all of this, Josh,
Speaker 1: Josh exactly.
Speaker 9: I ain't known this when it first, when the idea
Speaker 9: came about to do it in this format, I was like,
Speaker 9: I ain't gonna be on camera. I said that to Ma,
Speaker 9: say you get a camera and that that'll be your camera, right,
Speaker 9: and I'll be on the side. But the reality is
Speaker 9: I didn't understand what the division is. But you know,
Speaker 9: I got the vision today. Yeah, that's how you want.
Speaker 9: I gotta like that, you know, But I got the
Speaker 9: vision today, And the reality is, I'm looking forward to evolution, man,
Speaker 9: it is.
Speaker 7: It is a great thing to not be stagnant and
Speaker 7: not to want to be stagnant. So I love this.
Speaker 7: I love this for y'all.
Speaker 9: I love this for myself, and I'm looking forward to
Speaker 9: most tempering myself and not embarrassing myself on camera.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: This is the ultimate test.
Speaker 7: It is to you know, think about what you say
Speaker 7: before you say it.
Speaker 1: It is no bro, absolutely a moment for people to
Speaker 1: understand that.
Speaker 7: But yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. This is great, good.
Speaker 3: Stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 1: I love that for all of us.
Speaker 3: I sure do.
Speaker 2: Those were awesome moments of truth, all right, y'all. Let
Speaker 2: me go to my que cons y'all. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: a little rust decent. We just come back all lot
Speaker 2: my place, and the sequence of what we got we.
Speaker 1: Having to say, y'all know about heart?
Speaker 3: Do you know by heart? And I just want to
Speaker 3: make sure nothing changed, do you know?
Speaker 1: Cause what's that podcast name? Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, of course we know that that changed.
Speaker 2: So be sure to find us y'all on Patreon because
Speaker 2: we're still there and we are aiming to do some
Speaker 2: more lives on Patreon, y'all.
Speaker 3: We just had to kind of get our footing.
Speaker 2: Like I said, twenty twenty four was a beast, but
Speaker 2: now that we're kind of recalibrated and we're going to
Speaker 2: definitely jump on some more lives to connect with you
Speaker 2: guys more. But you can find us on Patreon if
Speaker 2: you're not there yet for the after show, because we're
Speaker 2: still going to have the llis ever after after the show,
Speaker 2: so we're still building that out. And just so you
Speaker 2: know that our set, our new set we're super excited about.
Speaker 2: This is actually Devou's man cave space that we have
Speaker 2: turned into our set, So thank you.
Speaker 3: For loaning this to us.
Speaker 2: Pleasure, and we're still continuing to like put up the
Speaker 2: core pieces. We'll have some new furnisure coming in, so
Speaker 2: just be with us on the journey. You know, we
Speaker 2: want y'all to see this as it's unfolding in real time.
Speaker 2: But you can find more exclusive Ellis ever After video
Speaker 2: content on Patreon and you can find us, of course
Speaker 2: on social media. So the dead Ass podcast page, if
Speaker 2: you're on it now, it will eventually change to Ellis
Speaker 2: ever After, and then you can continue to find me
Speaker 2: at kadeen I am.
Speaker 1: And I Am devout.
Speaker 4: And if you're listening on Apple podcasts, be sure to rate,
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Speaker 1: Please do. And as always, I'm gonna end every episode holo.
Speaker 5: Hold hold, hold up, they can't find us at Underscore
Speaker 5: Matt dot l you absolute because I need it?
Speaker 3: Sure you know, Matt, I don't. I don't talk too much,
Speaker 3: but here's my hand as you should.
Speaker 7: You don't gotta find me on instag you can find
Speaker 7: me on email me for pricing.
Speaker 1: I n f O at Josh Doway dot com.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I n f O at j O s h
Speaker 7: u A d w A I N dot com.
Speaker 5: There you go, y'all can.
Speaker 4: Tell Josh is new and I love to get the
Speaker 4: organic evolution of Josh, because I guarantee you a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks from now, we're gonna do this again.
Speaker 1: Josh's gonna be telling everybody what to do. That's what
Speaker 1: Josh like to do. He gonna have his whole Instagram
Speaker 1: name change pictures of it. I know, I know, Josh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to feel his way through it. He
Speaker 3: has to be convinced.
Speaker 8: You can find me on Instagram at Trips the Cool
Speaker 8: t R I B b Z t H E C
Speaker 8: double O L. That's also my website and on TikTok.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and as always, I'm gonna finish every episode with
Speaker 4: this dead ass.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: That's episode.
Speaker 8: Ellis ever After is an iHeartMedia podcast. It's hosted by
Speaker 8: Kadeen and Deval Ellis. It's produced by Triple Video, Production
Speaker 8: by Joshua Duane and Matthew Ellis, video editing by Lashan Rowe.
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