1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: We'll be Baby. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Dead Ass podcast was like a woman who got a haircut, Baby, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: she about to change a life. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: Ellis ever After is live. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 4: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 4: from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 4: Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable, 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: be wrang. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Of course, but most apportly be us. 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: But as we know, life keeps evolving, and so do 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: we and through it all, one thing has never changed. 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 5: This is. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Because we got a lot to talk about. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: So let's get for the Maybe we'll start with story time. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: It's been such a long time. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Yeah, story time is next. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Boom story Time. 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna take us back to twenty eighteen. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: You typically take us back. 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to take us back back in the time, 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: right twenty eighteen. Kadeen and I are in the mixt 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: of developing our social media presence. Yes, and we were 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: doing a bunch of battle of the sexist ideas. And 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: I remember I had did a video about resetting your freak. Yeah, 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: and it went viral, and then from going viral. I 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: remember our manager at the time came to us and 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: it was just like, have you guys ever thought about 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: having a podcast? 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, podcast, what's the podcast? 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: And then she explained to us what a podcast was, 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: and you and I were like, Yo, this would be 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: a dope way for us to give our perspectives on 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 4: marriage from a woman's perspective and then a man's perspective, 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: and then we can actually have a little bit of 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: a battle. 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: It was funny, it was supposed to be in jest. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: It was like taking the comments section, yes the microphone. 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: You know, but literally taking the comment section to the microphone. 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: And we also had the idea of building this out 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: to become a talk show for you because you've always 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: had this dream of being a daytime TV host. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely still a dream. 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Still it's still a dream. 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: But as technology changes, as the industry changes, as the 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: topics of conversation change, so have we. So welcome, everybody, 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: Welcome to the first episode of Elis Ever After. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, all right, all right, first karaoke of the season. 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: Baby first. 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna make it very clear. 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: We chose a very difficult song for karaoke because it 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: just fits us so perfectly. 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: This is this is what we do, This is who 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: we are. We challenge ourselves. 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely kill people's songs for a living. You would think 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: it's my job at this point to do terrible. 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Do we really kill people songs like that? I don't 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: feel like we be killing the songs. 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: I know sometimes I just don't know the words. Well, 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: you you'll be tend to a little pitchy, you know. 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: Well, pitchy is part of it. I mean, it's karaoke. 63 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Pitchy is part of the karaoke experience. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Well, some person goes up to do karaokey, they're singing 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: like Mariah Carey, and I'm. 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Just like you did that on purpose, right, It's not 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: He's not supposed to. 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Be You can't be a professional singer. I agree with 69 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you on that. 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: But I say all of that to say, give me 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: some grace on this as I sing this. 72 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: All right, go for it, practice and I'm gonna let 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: you ride. 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: Shout out to the artist who sang this song, indeed, 75 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: because she is one of the greatest. 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 6: There we go, birds flying high, you know how I feel? 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: Mm hmmmm hmm. Sun in the sky. 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: You know how. 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Healthy period breathing what. 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Breathe sifting on by? You know how I feel. 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Hey, it's a new dawn. It's a new day. 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: It's a new life for me. Yeah, it's a new 83 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: this a new day. It goes to pitch period, it's 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: a new life for me. He was, and I'm feeling good. 85 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: Shout out to Oh my God, one of my favorite 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: whole songs. I'm not gonna say the other person because 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: he tripping right now. The whole song is otis Yeah, yeah, 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Where they sampled Nina Simon 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: and shout out to Nina Simon. 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: But we are feeling good? 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: Man, You are not feeling good, dawn. It's a new. 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Day, trouble. Are you're feeling good? I'm feeling alright. 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: Listen, you gotta feel bad than all right, That's what 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: You gotta feel you gotta feel good, man. Are you 96 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: feeling good? 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 5: Feeling good? 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Y'all? Are you feeling good? 99 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 7: I'm tiring, y'all. 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: I knew that was coming. You're coming from the West 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: coast time. 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: Okay, Josh got off of a flight this morning. 103 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: So what we're gonna do, right, now we're gonna take 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: a quick break's some bills. 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: And get back into the new format. 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: Is everybody knowing that some things are different around here 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: Deadass podcast because. 108 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: It's no longer dead Ass podcast. 109 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: It's not Baby Ellis After. Welcome, Welcome to the new sets. 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to our home, new space, new energy, new vibes, 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: new topics. Baby, we're just getting started. Stick around, We'll 112 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: be back, all. 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: Right, So we're back. 114 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: We have a new segment as we introduce the crew, 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: who y'all really already know. Anybody who's been following dead 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: Ass podcasts and been a part of the Patreon y'all 117 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: are going to know these people. We're gonna introduce, first 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: and foremost our producer, Extraordinary over there. 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: What's up, trouble, what's going on, y'all? I'm glad I 120 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: still have a job. You got, but what we're excited 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: to have you. 122 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: How does it feel to actually be officially part of 123 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: the Ellis ever After podcasts? 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: You know what? 125 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 8: It feels like the best revenge in the world. When 126 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 8: I first started working on Dead Ass, my boss at 127 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 8: the time was like, You're not gonna have your own show, 128 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 8: and I was like, dang. 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: I didn't even ask, like, I didn't even It's messed 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: up but cool. But look at me now, bitch that 131 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: Yo, Matt, Yo, you gotta talk to us a little bit, man, Now, 133 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: let us know how we got here. 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: You don't talk ever, You always the down behind the camera. 135 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: Everybody when they see this's gonna be like I just happened. 136 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 7: People. 137 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: It is Elis ever After and you are officially an 138 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: Ellis not because we got married or anything but. 139 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: Birth. 140 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: But shout out to Matt Man. 141 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: Matt is going to start getting from the camera because 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: he has a couple of opinions he wanted to talk about, 143 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: and we've seen on the After Show and last but 144 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: certainly not least a person who actually is responsible for 145 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: curating the Look of Dead Ass podcast before our engagement 146 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: shoot in two thousand and nine. 147 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: How many years in are we Josh this, Josh? 148 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: How many years is it feels like the sixteen Josh? 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Talk to us? How you feel officially be a part 150 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: of Ellis of Rafter podcast. 151 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 9: I feeling good, baby, Yeah. I like the evolution of 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 9: it all. I like the look. I like the grown 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 9: and sexy look. 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: It's dope, man, grown and Sexy Baby were grown and 155 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: Sexy finalist point we are I'm still trying to grow up. 156 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I feel like a kid, like I ain't even gonna 157 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: hold y'all. I feel like a kid A lot. 158 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: Of that's very true. 159 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: And if you take a look at those four young 160 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: men standing in there, I still every day it blows 161 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: my mind that I have four children, four sons, responsible 162 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: for four human beings. 163 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: It's so crazy to me. 164 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Look at us, and look at you. 165 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: See the V, we the V and ever ever because 166 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: you were stuck with me forever, know that. 167 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: Four M V not M like Josh tried to say, 168 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: it's a V. 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Bro. I never saw a M you saw. I never 170 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: saw my only sor V. 171 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 9: I got a text message where Kadeen agreed with me, 172 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 9: so let's not play. 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: It looks like an R. 174 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Ellis raft. 175 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: I know it's Ellis ever After, but I can see 176 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: why somebody might say it's an M. 177 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: All right, I'll take it with you. Let's get back 178 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: to the show. We actually have a new segment, all right. 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: The new segment that we're going to include is called 180 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: OP or no opp. Now, it's not the OP that 181 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: y'all think. The thing the op y'all thinking of is 182 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: the ops right? No, we're not talking about opposition. We're 183 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: talking about opinions right. The reason why we're introducing op 184 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: or no opps because we want to start a new 185 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: trend here in LS ever after, and it's not always 186 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: having an opinion just because. 187 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: You have an opinion. 188 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: How about people start having opinions when they're educated on 189 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: the topic. 190 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: We love that. We kind of got the idea from 191 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: social media, right because people post. People say, well, I'm 192 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: free to comment in the comment section because if you 193 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: posted about it, I should be able to say what 194 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: I feel about it, which is entirely true. 195 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: Yes, but at some point people just can shut up, 196 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and you don't have. 197 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: To always have something to say about everything. So that's 198 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: where OP and no op can Yes. 199 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: And we're gonna allow Trible to get us started. 200 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: So with Opera no opp what we do is we 201 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: don't listen to the topics beforehand. 202 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: We want it to be as real as possible. 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: So Trible comes up with the ops the same way 204 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: she comes up with the facts and stats. 205 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: So Trible's on you, baby, aren't you? 206 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 7: Y'all? 207 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: For us today for op no op. 208 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 8: The first topic. I think everybody will be having an 209 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 8: opinion on this one. I shaved my legs recently. 210 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: God, you see what I'm saying. I have an opinion 211 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: about this. I am, I have an opinion, but I'm 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: gonna let you go first. 213 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, Trible. I mean, that was like 214 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: the one that was like the one thing that I. 215 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: Was like, girl, like, I get it, but come on. 216 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Now, it's not even like a queer thing. It's just lazy. 217 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't feel like doing it right. 218 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: So that I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask, 219 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: like missing my opinion, what's gonna be a question? Did 220 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: you not shave your legs in solidarity with your queerness or. 221 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: Was it just like I don't feel like fucking saving 222 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: my legs. 223 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was definitely in solidarity with my lazyness. 224 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: This whole time, I thought she was making a bigger point. 225 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: This is why you can't have an opinion on anything. 226 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: Because you don't even know the reason. 227 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Because I know what the reason. 228 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: Let me tell you. 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: I've seen Trible, you know, come here and I'm like, hey, Trea, 230 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: listens de Voe's birthday, for example, make sure you bring 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: a little outfit to wear because we're gonna go out 232 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: for dinner. And I mean trible, beautiful face hit done here, done. 233 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: Dressed, body yachtying and all that. And then it's like 234 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: you do the skin down to the knee, wolf, kneecat 235 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: wolf and you got a little further down and I'm like, 236 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: trible girl. You know I'll be rocking with you. But baby, 237 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: that's the one thing so I am proud of. Is 238 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: it smooth? Is it better than you thought it would be? 239 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean I used to shame. 240 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be a little little bit, a little. 241 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Bit little hair, don't stop, nothing but a comb. I 242 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: guess the holes love it. 243 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: Love it. I mean I guess it's like a point 244 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: of like, you know, caressing for me. It's not me. 245 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: You you waxed, shave there, do whatever you gotta do 246 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: down there. 247 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: You let it, let it happen. 248 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 4: I don't want to feel like myself, you know what 249 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying, matt op no op. 250 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: On, no opinion? Sorry, got nothing next. 251 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: I love that. 252 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Something I found really interesting. Have you heard of Dave Ramsey. 253 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 8: He's a conservative radio host and he's a financial wizard. 254 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: He's written a lot of books. 255 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 8: And he recently got a question on his radio show 256 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 8: about whether owning multiple properties is greed for a Christian, 257 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 8: and I thought his answer was very very interesting. 258 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 10: I own I don't know, I don't even know fifteen 259 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 10: twenty houses among a bunch of commercial real estate as well. 260 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 10: How is that not greed? Because I don't earn anything. 261 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 10: I'm a Christian and that means God owns it and 262 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 10: I'm managing it for him. So I guess you're calling 263 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 10: God greedy. Now, Wow, that's a good one. 264 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: That's loaded too. 265 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: I actually do have an opinion to have an opinion 266 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: that I find that people, not just Christians, because people 267 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: tend to say that Christians like to only use the 268 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: Bible when it's convenient. I feel like people in general 269 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: like to use the Bible when it's convenient. 270 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: And unless you've done the. 271 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: Theological work necessary to be able to explain what the 272 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: Bible meant, you shouldn't be given an opinion on the Bible. 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: Now. 274 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: As far as when it comes to greed, right, I 275 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: agree with him on this. All of these big companies 276 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 4: buying up properties and raising the pricing market that the 277 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: housing market, that is affecting the housing market. But I 278 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: also agree TikTok, like every other format, tends to, you know, 279 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: sensationalize things. It may raise the housing market possibly three percent. 280 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: They're going to say it's thirty percent. And I feel 281 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 4: like his opinion does matter because you can't just blame 282 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: God for everything right. So when things don't go right 283 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 4: in your life, is God full. When things do go 284 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: right in your life is god ful. But God also 285 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: says what faith without works is dead, which means we 286 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: have to put the work in. So at some point, 287 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: as a person, you have to take accountability. Always blaming God, 288 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: whether it's good or bad. To me, it's just a 289 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: bad thing to do. You have to take accountability. He's right, 290 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: having too much of anything is greedy if your spirit 291 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: is greedy. But if you have too much of one 292 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: thing in order to help present an opportunity to other people, 293 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: what if you own these houses and you put it 294 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 4: for low income people where you're not making as much money. Yeah, 295 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: you own the houses, but you're not being greedy. Being 296 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: greedy is owning all the houses and only making it 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: affordable to people who can afford it, and not helping people. 298 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: I don't think the amount makes it greed. I think 299 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: it's the purpose behind it. 300 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think greed is a mindset. Like you said, 301 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: it's a spirit thing. And you know, you might just 302 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: have these homes and you don't know how much that 303 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: person is now able to tithe. You know, maybe they 304 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: can tie and offer more because they have income from 305 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: all these other all work to be able to sustain ourselves, 306 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: of course, and then when you are blessed in abundance, 307 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: you have a responsibility to help others, right, I agree. 308 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: So if you are making residual income or you're making 309 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: more money off of these investments, which is that's the 310 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: point of business, right, then the way you go about 311 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: helping others really speaks more to your spirit than anything. 312 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I agree, trip. 313 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 8: I think that it was a clever way to defend 314 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 8: capitalism using Christianity. I don't think he mentioned the Bible 315 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 8: once because Jesus was famously a socialist, and there are 316 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 8: plenty of stories in the Bible that preach against greed 317 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 8: and selling your soul or your body for money or 318 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 8: you know. 319 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Just being a moral for capital gain. 320 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 8: And I don't think Dave Ramsey is using any of 321 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 8: those homes to help anybody. 322 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: Well, I'm personally, not talking about Dave. Yeah, his purpose 323 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: is his purpose. But say, for example, Lebron James, he's 324 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: got billions of dollars, but he opens up the I 325 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: Promised School, so clearly he's gaining and using these resources 326 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: to pay it forward. And that's why I feel like 327 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: you can't use the Bible to bash capitalism, because you 328 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: can also use the Bible like or you can use 329 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: capitalism like Jesus did turn water into wine and shared 330 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: it as opposed to turning water into wine and drinking 331 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: it all himself. 332 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 8: But the problem with the housing market is that everybody 333 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 8: needs housing, yes, and everybody doesn't have housing because housing 334 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 8: is privatized and people are using it to make a profit, 335 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 8: to make their millions. So I think that being a 336 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 8: landlord is almost inherently greedy unless you are giving people 337 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 8: housing for what they can afford and not like driving 338 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 8: housing prices through the roof. 339 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: Like what's happening, right, understandable, I get what I do, 340 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: get what you're saying. 341 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially as a renter now too, like you can 342 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: probably see and be like, damn, you know you really 343 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: don't have to be charged all this for rent? 344 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, Yeah, because all. 345 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 8: The money I'm paying for rent and as many times 346 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 8: as I've seen dog piss an elevator, I'll be wanting 347 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 8: to go down to the rental office and beat up somebody. 348 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I should be able to do that. 349 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: If you want to see dog piss. If your br 350 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 7: is low, regardless. 351 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. I was going to say that, Yeah, I 352 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: agree with you on that. 353 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 7: For me, greed is about your desire. That's your mindset, 354 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 7: your desire. 355 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 9: It's not a number it is it is accumulating multiple things. 356 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: For you knew the podcast. 357 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 7: Oh my bad, I'm sorry. 358 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Help them out, man, help my. 359 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 9: First day on the job. But but like I said, 360 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 9: greed is about a mindset. It's about your desires and 361 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 9: what your ultimate goal is. If your ultimate goal is 362 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 9: to hoard and and not share, then that's greed. If 363 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 9: you're collecting things and still sharing. But I'm I'm accumulating 364 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 9: things because of my talent, because of my business, because 365 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 9: of these things are coming to me because of what 366 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 9: I've earned and what I've done to get them. Right, 367 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 9: I'm not doing this to be poor. But at the 368 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 9: same time, like if you're just like not sharing wealth 369 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 9: or spreading it around or just doing it inherently like 370 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 9: the corporations just to just to drive a market and 371 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 9: to be profitable, and that that's great to me. 372 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I have a question. I'm gonna let you go, Matt. 373 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: My initial thought was similar on the lines of yours. 374 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people try to weaponize the 375 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: Bible and only use it to make their point. So 376 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: sometimes when I hear anybody reference Biblical stuff with anything 377 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 5: that's happened in the world to now. So he started 378 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: talking about it once he started telling the Bible, I 379 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: don't know how I feel because I, like you said, 380 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: I'm not researching on that theory party theology part to 381 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 5: actually understand and go back and forth on that discussion. 382 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: All right, you brought up a good point, though, Josh. 383 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: And even trouble, at what point does gaining enough resources 384 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: to pay it for become greedy? Or is this something 385 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: like like he said, it's inherently in your heart, you 386 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, if I want to live nice, 387 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: other people's projection of that could be that I'm greedy 388 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: because I want to live nice, right, Like some people 389 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: may say, even for trouble, why do you care about 390 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: dogs pissing in the elevator. 391 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: You got an elevator. We live in a walk up. 392 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: You just being greedy. You see what I'm saying. 393 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: It's like someone else who has less can always say 394 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: to you, you're being greedy because you have more, right, 395 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: And we have to start looking at people's hearts rather 396 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: than the numbers. 397 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: So that's just my final. 398 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. 399 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: You got one more trip, but that's it. 400 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, well I have one more that's gonna lead us 401 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 8: into the topic. Let us get it so on threads, recently, 402 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 8: author and speaker Lovia Jay Jones posted tax podcast mics. 403 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Teriff then. 404 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 8: Saying and that post guy over twenty five hundred likes 405 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 8: and more than one hundred and seventy five reposts. And 406 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 8: of course we've all seen this on social media. People 407 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 8: say this all the time. People say shit like podcast equipment, 408 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 8: she costs a million dollars. 409 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: And I think. 410 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 8: It's because of some of the bad takes and misogyny 411 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 8: and pigmy culture and all of the isms and phobias 412 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 8: that are being spread on podcasts. And so it makes 413 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 8: me wonder, what do you think about well continuing to 414 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 8: be podcasters with this type of sentiment going around or no, ip. 415 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: I do have an opinion. 416 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: First thing is, though misogyny is always brought up, right, 417 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: what's the female. 418 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: Word for misogyny? Miss Andrey? How can we never talk 419 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: about that? Wait? 420 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 5: Does it work? 421 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Yes? 422 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: And while we never use it because in our culture today, 423 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: men are not allowed to have opinions about anything, it's misogyny, 424 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: but women can say whatever they want about anything. 425 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 8: Well, it's like we don't call people saying white people 426 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 8: smell like dogs. 427 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: We don't call that racism. That don't mean that it's 428 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: not racist though. 429 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 8: Okay, but you know, so you get why because there's 430 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 8: an imbalance of power. 431 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh, there's definitely an imbalance of power. 432 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: But my thing is, as a person who's going on threads, 433 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: who is making a comment about podcasts but only directing 434 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: it towards one group of people, that's a problem because 435 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: ultimately what she's saying is that men shouldn't have podcasts, 436 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: and that's not fair. So that what you're saying is 437 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: only women should have podcasts, mikes and opinions about things. 438 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: But if you look at history, in the last couple 439 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: of decades, women have had the most to say about things, right, 440 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: and then women are also getting mad at other women 441 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: for having things. 442 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: That's how pickny culture became a thing. Right. You don't 443 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: hear them call men pigmies, it's women picknies. 444 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: But anytime a woman has an opinion that differs from 445 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 4: the popular culture of most women, what do they call 446 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: her a pigmy? Anytime a man has an opposing opinion 447 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: to what the popular culture of women think, what do 448 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: they call him misogynistic? 449 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: How come there is nothing like that for women? That's 450 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: my biggest part. 451 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: Well, apparently there is a word, but we just never 452 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: hear it. 453 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: But you see what I'm saying, People don't even know 454 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 4: what it is, the same way you have toxic masculinity. 455 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: Right, So there's nothing toxic about women. There's nothing. 456 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: There's no such word as toxic femininity. You want to 457 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: know why, because toxic masculinity was created by women, and 458 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: since they're the ones who are the only ones who 459 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: allowed to have podcasts equipment, Now this is what's going 460 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 4: to happen. 461 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 11: Wait, so why anything about No, she didn't say, But 462 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 11: they're famously been like Andrew Tate and a bunch of 463 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 11: men who just go on podcasts and bash women or 464 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 11: say things about about black. 465 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: Women or men who have been because Andrew. 466 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 8: Tate got accused of like sexual assault and then he 467 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 8: fled the country. 468 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: Those things are happening. 469 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 4: Forget the podcast about just being jailed like why and 470 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 4: he came back. 471 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is this is my biggest. 472 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 8: And I don't know exactly what podcasts she was talking about. 473 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 8: She didn't say anything about misogyny. 474 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: She just said. 475 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: All she said was tax podcast. 476 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 8: Mikes and a lot of what I think, what I 477 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 8: assume is because of some of the things that are 478 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 8: being spread on podcasts. A lot of times it is misogyny, 479 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 8: like the British dudes who let Andrew Schultz come on 480 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 8: and talk about black women on his show. 481 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: See but that's also that's also my point too, write 482 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: we can get rid of the podcast equipment. All we 483 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: want people have to use better discernment of what they 484 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: listen to. Yes, you know what I'm saying, So forget 485 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: the podcast equipment. Stop listening to stuff that it shows 486 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: people in a bad light. 487 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: It's also the clickbait worthy, you know, little thirty second 488 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: clips of people saying wow stuff. It's almost like a 489 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: competition for who could say the most fact you know, 490 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: reactive or the most abrasive thing just to get viral views. 491 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: But we can't tax podcast equipmentcause the ultimate we're doing 492 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: is we're taxing people's ability to have free speech, which 493 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: is anti American, which is part of the reason why 494 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: people come to America is that they can speak openly. 495 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: We don't even got to get started on that because 496 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: but the biggest thing is though, like people should be 497 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: allowed to have their opinions, other people should be smart 498 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: enough to say, is this opinion valuable? 499 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: Right? 500 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: Andrew Tate comes on my screen, I automatically scrope up, like, like, 501 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 4: that's not someone I'm going to allow access to my 502 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: subconscious because I don't agree with what he says. 503 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: But there's a group of people who do. 504 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: Or what are the red balloons? 505 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Now, like that's it's not a podcast, but it's just 506 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: like that's another thing. 507 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: The minute I see a. 508 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Balloon, another every category has. 509 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: I feel like the jokes are gonna nice. 510 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: I do want to clarify something. 511 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 8: The term toxic masculinity was coined by a man. Pretty 512 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 8: sure it was, but you said women started it. 513 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: Who say it the most? It was coined by a man. 514 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: It was defined by a man. 515 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: You said women created it, so I wanted fair. 516 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: When you hear people talk about toxic masculinity, who says 517 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: it the most, who's made it famous? 518 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: I guess women. 519 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: And my point is podcasts can't always be just men 520 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: be talking bad on podcasts. 521 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't think the case. 522 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 523 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: But when you hear what Trouble just said when reading 524 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 4: the thing, it was misogyny, it was pick me culture. 525 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: And I chose those two because misogyny is anti men, 526 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: and pick me is also anti women who believe that 527 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: men are right. So it's like we use those two 528 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: examples as the reason why podcasts shouldn't be allowed. It's like, 529 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: so pretty much what we're saying is that anything has 530 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: anything to do with a men's perspective. A man's perspective 531 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: is the reason why we should have podcast I think 532 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: that's unfair. 533 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's perspective. 534 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: After a while, it's almost like when I was a 535 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: makeup artist, for example, right. 536 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: After a while, the. 537 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: Whole entire job of a makeup artist, I feel like, 538 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: or the value that should saying a makeup artist started 539 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: to diminish because it seemed like everybody that picked up 540 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: a brush had a little Box. 541 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: Was a makeup artist. 542 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: So when you are performing at the top of your 543 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: expertise and you want to demand a certain price tag 544 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: for or your service, you now are getting undercut in 545 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: the market because you have people who are now doing 546 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: a phase for fifty dollars and making that the standard. 547 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: Now your face don't look tore up. That's one thing, 548 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: because you're not paying for the level of expertise again, 549 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: but I think that that's the signum tanousy. What's happening 550 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: in the podcast market us renewing a deal with iHeartRadio. 551 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: It's like, can we demand the amount of money that 552 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: we feel like we deserve being veterans in the game, 553 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Because now you have all these podcasts that they've poured 554 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: money into that are not reaping the benefits that they 555 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: thought they were going to get, not reaping the views 556 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: and the listens. 557 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: So now you're making it. 558 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: Bad for other people who have literally been putting the blood, 559 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: sweat and tears in for the. 560 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 3: Past almost decade. 561 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: We can't reap the benefits of that because now everyone 562 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: with a microphone is a podcaster. 563 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: I didn't think about that perspective, And to be honest, 564 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 4: you're thinking from a financial perspective. 565 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about the dollars. 566 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Baby. 567 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: You gotta make sense. 568 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: If they put a premium on podcast equipment and can't 569 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 4: everybody get a podcast, then when people go to negotiate 570 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: their deals, you wouldn't have to compete with the fact 571 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: that everybody. 572 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: Has a podcast, absolutely, and that will start to sift 573 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: out all of the nonsense from people who really find 574 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: value in whatever your podcast is. 575 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: Never thought about it like that, I was thinking about 576 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: censoring people. I'm anti censorship, like I don't. I don't 577 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 4: think anybody should be censored, but I understand where you're 578 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: coming from from the business standpoint. 579 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: I do. I do feel you though, and I do 580 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: feel you with what's the man named Andrew? What Andrew take? 581 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: Certain people should not be allowed to say certain things, 582 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 4: especially if it causes harm to other people. 583 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: But like I said before, is that podcast equipment or 584 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: is that jail? Because there are rules. 585 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: And laws against that, right, Like, you should not be 586 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: able to go online and say things that's going to 587 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: cause harm to a different group of people, and they're 588 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: allowing people to do that. 589 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 590 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody's policing the internet. That's the problem. 591 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: So do we get that with getting rid of the 592 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: podcast equipment, or do we have like an FCC for 593 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: the Internet. 594 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 595 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: I personally think there needs to be some type of 596 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: CC or some type of overseeing of the Internet in general, 597 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 5: not just podcasting overall, but the entire Internet is a 598 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: is a wild place and it's on now. 599 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 7: You need qualification. You should need qualifications to get a podcast. 600 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: I agree. 601 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 7: I agree, get a certificate or whatever you went to 602 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 7: school for it, or journalism or whatever. 603 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: She needs something, bro, you know what that Actually I'm happy. 604 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought this question up, because that's actually 605 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: a good freaking point. When we went to school for journalism, 606 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: there was prerequisite you had to in order to get 607 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: something published, right like you, Like you, You couldn't just 608 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: go I'm gonna go to the New York Times and 609 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: publish an article. 610 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the issue with podcasts. 611 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just jump on camera and just start 612 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: reporting without fact checks. 613 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: And all sorts of stuff and not for nothing. I 614 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: think that's what she's probably focusing on. Yeah, I think 615 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 4: that's more than that then censoring one side of the other. 616 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: She's probably just talking about there's no qualifications for people 617 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: to have a podcast. 618 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, and what what are the standards that you're holding 619 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 8: yourselves to as podcast hosts? What are the standards that 620 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 8: you hope your listeners hold themselves to as as consumers 621 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 8: a podcast. 622 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: That is a good point there, because that would take 623 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 4: that think about what's his name, Andrew take if he 624 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: had a responsibility that if someone off your podcast did 625 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: something based off of what you said, you would be 626 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: held responsible. 627 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk so recklessly. And that's the problem. 628 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 8: Well, there was one Landmark case. I can't remember the 629 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 8: guy's name, but he was a podcast host, radio host, 630 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 8: and he kept saying that Sandy Hook didn't happen. 631 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: I saw that one. 632 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 7: Alex Jones. 633 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Alex Jones, Yeah, and. 634 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 8: I think twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, maybe Stitcher made the 635 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 8: decision to take his show off of their platform. And 636 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 8: so all of these distribution channels have a choice about 637 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 8: what they put on their platforms. They just choose not 638 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 8: to exercise their choice. They were the first ones to 639 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 8: take Alex Jones's stuff off their platforms, and then the 640 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 8: other distribution channels followed, and then he ended up getting 641 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 8: sued and he can't make podcasts and stuff anymore because 642 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 8: he said, these white people's kids didn't die, you know, 643 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 8: So it doesn't matter what we say. In a lot 644 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 8: of times too, because people get so sensitive about the 645 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 8: term misogyny even stuff like that. They're like, you can't 646 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 8: censor that just because this man talks trash about women. 647 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 8: That's not harming anybody. And so then it makes it 648 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 8: harder for people to say, well, what can we decide 649 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 8: can't be. 650 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: Said, or well, then let me ask you that question, 651 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: because even misogyny is such a targeted word that it's 652 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: like men can't say things disparaging about women. Why is 653 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: it okay for women to get up there and to 654 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: speak disparagingly about men? 655 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: And that is okay? 656 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: Why it's okay. 657 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: Though now I'm not talking about you or Triple. I 658 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: know you guys don't think it's okay. What I'm saying 659 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 4: is think about the overarching idea of what podcasts are doing. 660 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: They're saying podcasts or damaging because misogyny exists in podcasting, right, 661 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: Misogyny exists in everything. Let's be real, Like that's what 662 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: Tripple said earlier, Like the power dynamic is off. That's 663 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: why women should be able to speak But my thing 664 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 4: is when we're talking about that, where a man can 665 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 4: say something that can damage a woman, it shouldn't be allowed. 666 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: It should be both ways, even if there is a 667 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: power in balance. For example, the young lady who told 668 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: her brothers and her friends that it was a New 669 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: York Giant player that he had an ex girlfriend or 670 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: something in the house and he was cheating on her. 671 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: So she told her homeboys and her brother. Her brother 672 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: went over there and do with his brother. She told, 673 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm sending my brother. 674 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Over there to kill you. 675 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: The dude sat in his house with a semi automatic weapon, 676 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: him and his brother, and when the dudes rolled up, 677 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: he shot them. 678 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: And it's like, that's the power of you know. 679 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, even a woman's voice, as much as 680 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: women don't want to own that when a woman says 681 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: something that shit matters, especially to. 682 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: The men around them. You know what I'm saying, there 683 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 8: should be good. My brother got set up by a 684 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 8: woman and that's how he got murdered. 685 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: So that's what and that's what I'm saying, Like that 686 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 4: shouldn't be pushed aside as the power and balance. If 687 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: we censor on people, we need to censor everybody. You 688 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, especially when it comes to violence. 689 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Wellhad, I just. 690 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 8: Feel like what men say tends to lead more so 691 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 8: to beliefs, you know what I'm saying, And the beliefs 692 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 8: that women shouldn't have power or controlling their relationships. And 693 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 8: women are more likely to be abused in relationships by 694 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 8: a partner of the opposite sex, and women are more 695 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 8: likely to be killed by their male partners. There's stuff 696 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 8: like that. That, and women are more likely to be 697 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 8: sexually assaulted by men. So it's like all of those 698 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 8: things that are that come from beliefs that we hold 699 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 8: about other people. They're not necessarily things that come from 700 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 8: an inner personal relationship like I got this's not a 701 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 8: crime of passion. When you get raped by your neighbor 702 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 8: in the dorms, you know what I'm saying, Or if 703 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 8: you get kidnapped from a random man on the street, 704 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 8: that's not an inner personal relationship that you had. Or 705 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 8: even when you get cat called, like walking down the street, 706 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 8: I had on some shorts one time. 707 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm walking with a co work her and this is 708 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: now he said it relieved. 709 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 8: It says something extremely sexual about my butt, and I'm 710 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 8: walking with this innocent co worker of mine and it's 711 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 8: like the most embarrassing thing ever. 712 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: But you also feel violated. This is a stranger, this 713 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: isn't something. 714 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 8: Then this comes from him believing that he should be 715 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 8: able to talk to me that way because of how 716 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 8: toxic masculinity, misogyny is ingrained into the society. Rape culture 717 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 8: is ingrained into the society and the minds of men 718 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 8: who are influenced by some of these people. I don't 719 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 8: think misogyny or pick me culture is the only issue 720 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 8: on podcasts. 721 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: I think that, So why is there the only two 722 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that you chose to put on it. I didn't. I 723 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: had a I'm saying when it came up there it 724 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: was it was misogyny in no, I. 725 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 8: Said, I said, bad takes, misogyny, pick me culture, and 726 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 8: all of the other isms and phobia is perpetrated by. 727 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: But you pointed out massogyny. That's the point though. The 728 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: point is is that you said bad takes. That doesn't 729 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: point at anything. Misogyny points that men, pick me culture 730 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: points women who agree with men, and then you said 731 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: all the other things. 732 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: That's my point. 733 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 8: I think those misogyny and pigmy culture are two of 734 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 8: the biggest things. I feel like that people get bothered by, 735 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 8: especially when it comes to the black pop. 736 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: People or women get bothered by. I think people. I 737 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: think people for sure. 738 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: I doubt men get bothered by pickmy culture, and I 739 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: doubt men be bothered by misogyny. 740 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: That's my point. 741 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: My point is that I feel like even the way 742 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: that the question was framed, I thought she said that, 743 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: But even when I hear people talk. 744 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: About it, that's what they talk about. They always talk. 745 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: About, like the term misogyny. Or you don't like to 746 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: feel like men are always under attack. 747 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: No, I don't. 748 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: It's not that I don't like that. I honestly feel 749 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: that right now there is attack on masculinity. 750 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: I do feel maculinity in general. 751 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: Masculinity in general. I feel like there is an attack. 752 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you do as a man right now. 753 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: It's wrong. Like if I. 754 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: Am kind and soft to my kids, then I'm gonna 755 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: raise a son who is not going to be masculine. 756 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: If I if I'm a heart on him and I scream, 757 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: then I'm too hard. I'm creating trauma. It's like there's 758 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: no way for men in this world. Seems like to 759 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: exist without offending someone. You understand what I'm saying. And 760 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: it just seems like that's becoming a trend where now 761 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 4: more men is be like, you know what, I ain't 762 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: gonna say, you do nothing, and then women, like we've 763 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: heard before, it be like, well the men ain't men. 764 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 765 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: It's like, how do you want me to men when 766 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: you're taking away my power to do anything. Had a conversation, 767 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 4: this is a true conversation with a bunch of women 768 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: who were single and one man. Right, it was one 769 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: man a bunch of women that were single, and they 770 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: were just like, Deval, do you think you, as a 771 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: husband should be able to control where Kadean goes? And 772 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't think I should control, 773 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: but I would like to know where she's going because 774 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm responsible for protecting her. 775 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: And they were just like, well, you don't have to 776 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: know what she's going to protect her. 777 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: And I said, wait a minute, it's my job to 778 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: protect you, and you don't feel like you should tell 779 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 4: me what you're doing, And they said no, But it. 780 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 8: Doesn't matter what those women think. No, what I'm saying 781 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 8: is the one in relationship. 782 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: And this my point, and that was exactly my point. 783 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: You had a bunch of women who are not. 784 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 4: In relationships with the overwhelming loud voice of I should 785 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: not have to do this, but you still have to 786 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: do this for me. And that's not called misogyny, that's 787 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: not called toxic femininity, that's not called anything. They're just saying, 788 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm a woman, I have my opinion, and I'm like, 789 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 4: this should be a conversation here. It shouldn't be your 790 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 4: way is the only right way, and I have to 791 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: coward because I'm a man and say no, I'm never 792 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: gonna cow I'm never gonna do that. Like, that's just 793 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: not I'm gonna have my opinion. I'm gonna raise my kids. 794 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 4: I'm a Chivalry is not dead to me. I'm going 795 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 4: to teach my kids to walk on the outside open doors. 796 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like, yo, you have 797 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: a responsibility to your wife is going here, find out 798 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 4: where she's going, ask her what time she gonna be back, 799 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: get some information, you know what I'm saying. It just 800 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 4: seems like at this point in humanity, men ain't allowed 801 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 4: to say nothing. 802 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily true. I feel like. 803 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 8: If we take a look at the people that we're around, 804 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 8: because I know of women who are in relationships with 805 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 8: men who enjoy, you know, having a masculine man. 806 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: A golden retriever. I heard somebody call it recently, somebody that's. 807 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 8: Like sweet to them. They never have to open a 808 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 8: car door, you know, whatever this is. Some people really 809 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 8: enjoy that still, and you are allowed to do that 810 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 8: when they have a relationship where that's in the agreements 811 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 8: that they have. 812 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you such. 813 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 3: A beautiful golden retriever to me, baby, look. 814 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: Look, look you just called me a golden Retriever. 815 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 4: What if I called you a rott Waller, they would 816 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: say I was being misogynistated. 817 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: Like you me a dog? 818 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: Like you openly called me a dog, and it was 819 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: okay right. If I called her any type of animal, 820 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: they would be on my ass. 821 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: You compared your wife to an animal. 822 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: Everybody loves the Golden retriever, though not me. 823 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: I like pit bulls, I like cane corsos. I like 824 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: aggressive dogs. That's what I like. 825 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 4: But nah, but you understand what I'm saying, Like the 826 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 4: whole podcast not opinion thing to me just comes back. 827 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: It is like we don't want all these other people 828 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 4: to have opinions. We only want our side to be heard, 829 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 4: and I just hate that for both sides. 830 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: To be honest. 831 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: Well, that's why we've evolved from dead ass podcasts being 832 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: a men versus women thing, which is what this conference. 833 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: But I do like the fact that we can have 834 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 4: this open conversation because it's more than just me and you. 835 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: Tripple has a very unique take on it, you know 836 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, even your take on it with the finances. 837 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 4: I never thought about that, and I was like, oh, shoot, 838 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 4: like that does make sense. We could have renegotiated our 839 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: deal way better if it weren't eight thousand podcasts popping 840 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 4: up every single day. And I didn't even I was 841 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: thinking about just censorship, and then said you would think 842 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 4: about the business, which which also brings the point is 843 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: why you need to have more voices and not censor people. 844 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: Because here I got a different perspective from two women. 845 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: And if I sat up parent and be like, well, 846 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 4: women shouldn't have podcasts equipment, then I sound crazy, you 847 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. But if a woman is saying 848 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 4: niggas shouldn't have podcasts equipment, everybody saying yeah, I'm like, nah, no, 849 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: your opinion has opened my mind up, and I think 850 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 4: everybody's opinion, even even Anthony Tate Andrew. 851 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 8: It's making me so happy that you can't commit his 852 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 8: name to memory, though that is beautiful. 853 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: He not black. Neither is he Ah good good at 854 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: least at least he not black. 855 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 4: I could take away from that, but even him right 856 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: when you hear someone's takes is so outrageous, and you 857 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 4: hear that people really believe that. 858 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: At least I know who the ops are. You know 859 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 860 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 8: But I will push back and say, the reason why 861 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 8: people believe that is the same reason that you have. 862 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: Is that they hate that. 863 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 8: They feel like there's an attack on masculinity and there's 864 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 8: a pushback. I think the New York Times just did 865 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 8: an article about this, and they did a survey asking 866 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 8: men if they feel masculine or not, and it was like, 867 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 8: most Republican men of a certain age feel more masculine 868 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 8: because of this power in this rhetoric around, you know, 869 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 8: controlling bodies, being able to say what you want, taking 870 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 8: away DEI programs, literally having power and control over things 871 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 8: that do not serve you. And so I think the 872 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 8: reason why people gravitate towards Andrew Tata is because they're 873 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 8: trying to learn masculinity because they feel like they don't 874 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 8: know what it is or it's not being accepted, and 875 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 8: they're trying to find a version of masculinity that they're 876 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 8: getting from him because they believe that it is having 877 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 8: power and control. I feel out of the loop now, 878 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 8: So do I not me not knowing Andrew tATu am 879 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 8: I old? Is he a young No, you shouldn't know him, 880 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 8: but I think kids watch him on YouTube like teenagers preteen. 881 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: That's also the thing, the impressionable mind. 882 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't follow things that serve what I'm trying to 883 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 4: do purposefully, so I wouldn't even know check his we 884 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: check his history, so if I ever saw that, I 885 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: would have been like nah. 886 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 8: But I will say there are globally, there's over three 887 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 8: million active podcasts out there right now, and I think 888 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 8: the stats that there's like four hundred and sixty thousand 889 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 8: active podcasts on Apple Podcasts right now. 890 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: Three million. 891 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, so there's more than that available. There's more than 892 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 8: the Toxic show. 893 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's more than a toxic available. That's why 894 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: I say you can't take away pot. That's why I 895 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: think you can't take away fast equipment. 896 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 5: I don't think you can. I think it's a new industry, 897 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 5: just like the music industry is a new industry. You 898 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 5: can't take away to top of music. I want to 899 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 5: do that. Just choose not to listen to it. You're 900 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 5: going to have to choose not to listen to this 901 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 5: podcast if you don't want to listen to the podcast. 902 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: That's true. 903 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 5: It's just a new industry. So everybody's just up in 904 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 5: arms about there's no control on it. 905 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 4: You know what it's like everybody being in the studio. Correct, 906 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: everybody a rapper? But that body album. 907 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 5: Because the split Fighter. 908 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: But No actually actually was a great said. This is 909 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: why Triple is the producer, because Trip will be knowing. 910 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 4: This actually brings us into why we decided to change 911 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 4: Dead Ass podcast for today. We did have a travel 912 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 4: and this actually goes into the tech it does. Kadeen 913 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: and I started that Ass podcast with Jest. It was 914 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: supposed to be like just a prerequisite of how we 915 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 4: write man versus women and how we work on our 916 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 4: relationship through our opposing views as men and women. 917 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: A man and women, well, I mean in our line 918 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: when we enter the podcast saying that we kind of 919 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: like work things out as a form of therapy, but. 920 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, publicly with everywheel. 921 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, because it was always my perspective, your perspective 922 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 2: as we grew over the past, where did we start 923 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen eighteen man, almost seven years almost seven years ago? 924 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 4: I think I think the evolution came where it's like, Okay, 925 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 4: we've spent the past seven years discussing, Like we just 926 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: discussed what are the issues we have as men in 927 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 4: a marriage, as women in a marriage, and then it's like, okay, 928 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 4: we've discussed this, how do we move forward? So now 929 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 4: elis ever afterwards? Okay, we've discussed everything like we just 930 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: discussed here as a group, how do you and I 931 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 4: move forward? Word as a couple with a family with friends. 932 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 4: Because when we talk about our family, we don't only 933 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: talk about me, Kay, Jack, Kyro Kazdakota. We're also talking 934 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 4: about your parents, my parents, We're talking about. 935 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: Edible, Matt, Josh. 936 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: This is all our this is all of us, our 937 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 4: extended family, this is our ever after many of whom 938 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 4: we've asked to relocate. You know what I'm saying, Matt 939 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: now lives here, a triple now lives here, Josh is 940 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 4: going to come here at some point. 941 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: I want to. 942 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 4: I want to show people that a village of friends 943 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: who are all creatives, who can do something together and. 944 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: Built it together for the ground up. 945 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't one person already, you know, being quote unquote 946 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: on and trying to like bring people up. It's like no, 947 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: starting with people at a certain level and watching the 948 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: ascension happen because we all are invested in the common goal, 949 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: which is being great. 950 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:54,959 Speaker 5: Yeah. 951 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: For example, this podcast, Yeah, and I love that the 952 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: space for us. 953 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 2: I think more recently, well dead ass podcasts at least 954 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: started to kind of become deval and I kind of 955 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: keeping y'all up to date with what's been happening. 956 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: In our life because as things get. 957 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: Busy, as more businesses fall on our plate, you know, 958 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: devout filming me now new project, things. 959 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 3: Are going to get hectic. Yeah, I don't. Thanks, Thanks Matt, 960 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: big me out one more. 961 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: Time, one more time. 962 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 4: The reason why we're not getting to hype is because 963 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 4: we can't really still disclose what she's filming, not quite 964 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 4: so we kind of like holding it type. 965 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: But we're excited about. 966 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: It, so excited so this is going to be a 967 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: way as well for us to keep y'all who have 968 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: been so invested in us over the past seven years 969 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: up to date on all of kind of like behind 970 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: the scenes stuff as well, and still talking about how 971 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: life and family and business and parenthood impact us on 972 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 2: a regular basis. 973 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: I agree. 974 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 4: And we also chose to include our our I don't 975 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 4: even want to say friend group, because it at this 976 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 4: point we're not friends like before Tripple moved here and 977 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 4: Matt was here and Josh they lived here when we 978 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 4: did the podcast, Like, yeah, y'all don't realize this, but 979 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 4: we filmed the podcast and these three people will be 980 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 4: living here for a week and we will be filming 981 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: the podcast talking about guests and topics, and we just 982 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 4: felt like now is the time for us to elevate, 983 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 4: get to a new level for all you creative. This 984 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: is another thing that you have to think about marketability. 985 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 4: When Kadeena and I first started that, we didn't understand 986 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 4: the scope of what podcasting was. I was like, well, 987 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 4: we get on mics and talk, I'll do that shit 988 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 4: all day, not realizing that it was going to become 989 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 4: its own medium and grow to what has become. So 990 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 4: we came up with dead ass podcasts because we were like, yo, 991 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 4: we're from New York, We're from Brooklyn. We being dead ass, Like, 992 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say exactly how I feel, Kay gonna say 993 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 4: exactly how she feel. At the time, they were just like, 994 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: we don't think we should call it dead ass. And 995 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 4: I was like why, It's like, what ass is a curse? 996 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, as isn't a cursive if 997 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: you use it in succession behind dead colloquially from New York. 998 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: And they were like huh. I said, the bottom line 999 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,959 Speaker 1: is we're gonna call it dead ass, and you're gonna 1000 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: have to do with it. Yeah. 1001 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: So, after seven years, the same conversation we had about 1002 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 4: Battle of the sexist, we don't want to do that 1003 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 4: no more. We want to come to an understanding of 1004 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: the sexes and move forward so we can all be happily. 1005 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: Ever after you feel me, I like, I see what you. 1006 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: Did this, You know what I like to you? And 1007 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: I were told you were told you would never have 1008 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: a show. Yeah. 1009 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 4: I was told that I was going to never be 1010 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: on TV. Triple was told she was never going to 1011 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 4: have a podcast. I'm pretty sure Matt and Josh were 1012 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: both told that they wouldn't be able to do the 1013 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 4: things that they're doing, especially as directors. So it feels 1014 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 4: good to actually be able to show people that we're doing. 1015 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 2: This right and creating our own opportunities essentially, Like, yeah, 1016 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: you know, one thing we've never did was listen to you. 1017 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: Know everybody else do anything. 1018 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we still don't to this day. And I 1019 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 3: think that's why. 1020 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: It's given us the courage and the permission for ourselves 1021 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 2: to just do something different. 1022 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 4: And it gives me the trip, the safety and the 1023 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 4: freedom to say trouble and know that she's going to 1024 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 4: be on camera. There are some facts and stacks. 1025 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: That you have, right, Yeah, I mean I just have 1026 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: some facts about the podcast. 1027 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh this is like. 1028 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting. I haven't heard about this. 1029 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 3: Let's listen. 1030 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 8: This is just kind of a walk down memory lane 1031 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 8: because I started on the podcast in twenty nineteen. Yes, 1032 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 8: and I actually remember the first time I listened to 1033 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 8: the first episode. I was interviewing for the job, and 1034 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 8: I was like, man, why I got to do this 1035 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 8: podcast with these normies? But I loved it, and your 1036 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 8: chemistry was amazing. Earlier you mentioned y'all wanting to do 1037 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 8: the podcast to kind of grow into Cadeen's own day 1038 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 8: daytime TV show, And I remember in the studio, I'll 1039 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 8: be like, today, you need a daytime TV show and she. 1040 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: Was like that's the plan and I was like, wow, 1041 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: really look at you. 1042 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 8: But it just like it's very clear that you you 1043 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 8: have that talent. It comes through every time you're on 1044 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 8: the mic thank you trips. One of my favorite episodes 1045 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 8: was prenup er Nod. Do you remember that judge? Remember 1046 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 8: she came in, she was so honest. 1047 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 3: We were living in l A, l A at the time. 1048 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 4: We used to come in every week into two podcasts 1049 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 4: every Wednesday. Yeah, this was pre pandemic. 1050 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 8: And then we also had a an episode that did 1051 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 8: make the cut with an unnamed influencer. I think that 1052 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 8: was that was when I met the Like I knew 1053 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 8: Devo for like six months at this point, but that's 1054 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 8: when I met Val. 1055 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 4: Real quick story, but this influencer pretty much made her 1056 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,959 Speaker 4: money and her ability to grow as an influencer talking 1057 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 4: about colorism. So Kadeena and I were like, Yo, let's 1058 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 4: have her come on here to talk about because she's 1059 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 4: a brown skinned woman. 1060 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: She came in here to talk about colorism. So first 1061 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: of all, she got there over an hour late. Over 1062 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: an hour late, and in a minute she came in. 1063 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: We didn't even meet her. 1064 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 4: First, we met her white male manager or handler. And 1065 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 4: then he came in after being an hour and a 1066 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 4: half late. Didn't apologize nothing that says she won't be 1067 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: discussing any of these things. All of the lists of 1068 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 4: things were discussing the things that made her very popular. 1069 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 4: And I was just like, well, where are we going 1070 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 4: to discuss it? And if she don't want to talk 1071 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 4: about it, and she has a whole bunch of other things. 1072 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: So we sat down for like what maybe twenty minutes. Yeah, 1073 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: and I started asking questions and then he stepped in 1074 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 4: one time and said, yeah, she won't talk about that. 1075 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 4: I said, we don't got to do this interview. And 1076 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 4: I was out like okay, come on, let's go. Like 1077 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 4: that's and that episode never aired. It's funny that you 1078 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 4: remember that. Were you laughing in the back? 1079 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 7: I really was. 1080 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 4: I was like, dang, Yeah, I was pissed because I 1081 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 4: felt like it was it was a waste of time. 1082 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: I feel like she was being very distanging, like you're brown, 1083 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 4: skinned women who got famous talking about how brown skinned 1084 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 4: women don't get a fair shake in this industry. 1085 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: And here we are to lighter. 1086 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: Skinned people who understand how colorism is a problem. It's like, yo, 1087 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 4: let's talk about it, and she don't want to talk 1088 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: about it, or matter of fact, it wasn't her. 1089 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: He said she wasn't going to talk about it, and 1090 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: she was. 1091 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 4: Like, I can't, and then he was just like no, 1092 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 4: and then she listened, and that's when I was just like, yeah, well, 1093 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 4: and if we're not talking about it, then there's no 1094 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 4: reason to have this. 1095 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: I was hot. Do you remember how I was? I 1096 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to fight that. 1097 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 3: Man she got introduced to. 1098 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: Are you not about to tell this black woman she's 1099 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: not talking about colorism? Nigga? What the fuck you know about? 1100 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: I was so mad. You're so mad right now? All 1101 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: my I look mad because we just talked about men 1102 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: cincining women. 1103 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: It's like, this is what made her famous, this, this 1104 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 4: is what got her the platform, and this is what 1105 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 4: our culture is still dealing with to this day. And you, 1106 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 4: a person who has no idea what this is about, 1107 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 4: it's going to tell her she shouldn't talk about this. 1108 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 3: It pissed me off, which is, do you have a 1109 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 3: favorite episode or moment I have? 1110 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: I have a lot. I actually have a lot of favorites, 1111 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: favorite episodes and moments. One of my very, very very 1112 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: favorite moments I can't even say that once I got 1113 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 1: another one I thought about. 1114 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 4: We did fifteen seasons, bro, I know, episode that's over 1115 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five episodes. 1116 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 3: It's like a blur. 1117 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 2: I almost don't have anything that's surfacing for me right now. 1118 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 2: I have dead ass live show moments. 1119 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 5: That's my favorite. 1120 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 3: That's the whole thing. I think. The live shows in 1121 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 3: general are just really like my thing. We all love 1122 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 3: the stage. 1123 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 4: Going to do another live show, but not a tour. 1124 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 4: We're not doing a tour. We're gonna do another live show. 1125 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 4: Our plan is doing the live show of course where. 1126 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: Brooklyn. We're gonna come back to New York. 1127 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 4: We gonna do a big live show and when we 1128 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 4: find the time, but it's gonna happen because we have 1129 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 4: to do an LS ever after live show. 1130 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh for sure, now that we're here, you know, and 1131 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: y'all got to buy all this dead ass merch. Sidebar 1132 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: shout out to Kwame who's back. 1133 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 3: Behind the cameras as well. 1134 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Deadass Merch is now going to be on sale 1135 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a collector's item at this 1136 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: point because there's no more dead Ass. So make sure 1137 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: you get right, makes sure you get your hoodie, your 1138 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: T shirt, your hats. Yeah, because once they're gone, they're gone. 1139 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 2: They're like collector's items at this point. 1140 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 4: I feel like I was balancing between episodes. I think 1141 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 4: one of my favorite episode is with Angel and Marcus 1142 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 4: was talking about marriage. But Angel is a clown right, like, 1143 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 4: she's hilarious and Marcus is so like straight And this 1144 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 4: was before Marcus started to become more personality, and Marcus 1145 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 4: is kind of sitting there like, I don't really know 1146 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 4: why she had me come on here. I know there's 1147 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 4: a couple of things, but it was just so funny 1148 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 4: because throughout the episode he started to open up and 1149 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 4: we realized how much we had in common because they 1150 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 4: have four kids. At the time, we only had three. 1151 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 4: It was only boys, so there was so much synergy 1152 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 4: between them. But I also loved Melissa and Kevin on stage, 1153 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 4: Like I think it's the relationship aspect and seeing people 1154 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 4: who have been in relationships just as long as we 1155 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 4: and we talked about like our issues and it's. 1156 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: Like, wait a minute, you go through that. Oh, you 1157 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: go through that too. 1158 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 4: And then seeing Melissa, it's like, wait a minute, you 1159 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 4: and I are the same and yeah, that to me 1160 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 4: those and I think this. Me and Tripple had talked 1161 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 4: about this growing up. I had believed that all men 1162 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: thought the same way and all women thought the same way, 1163 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 4: especially in relationships. And this is why I loved doing 1164 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 4: dead Ass podcast when we sat down with so many 1165 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 4: different couples and I realized that some of the issues 1166 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 4: I have women have those issues with their spouse and 1167 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so that's not a man thing. So 1168 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 4: me trying to fix this with testosterone ain't gonna work. 1169 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 4: I gotta fix this with another you know. I have 1170 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 4: to open up a different eye to have empathy for 1171 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 4: my wife in a different way other than saying, well, 1172 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 4: I'm just a man and she just a and that's 1173 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 4: how it is. Those relationships, those relationship podcasts really like. 1174 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 4: I love those, even though the after shows when Me 1175 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 4: and Trouble be arguing and I can get a different 1176 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 4: perspective from someone in a different walk of life. 1177 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: Those are my favorites. 1178 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the ones that I've 1179 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 2: learned from I think were my favorite. So for example, 1180 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 2: like I felt like after a while, I was like, 1181 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 2: oh my god, we having all these topics about sex, 1182 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: all these conversations about sex, and I'm just like, man, like, 1183 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm tired of talking about it. People are probably tired 1184 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 2: listening to it. But then no, people will like talk 1185 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: about it more because I have the same issues. But 1186 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 2: I think it's the self discovery through those episodes as 1187 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: well as the parenting episodes when we had all this 1188 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 2: where I was just like, oh my god, I can't 1189 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 2: believe I did that, or it's like I've taken something 1190 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 2: that I maybe didn't understand with your way of parenting 1191 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 2: and realize like, damn, that's something that actually could be 1192 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: applicable to me too. Like those self discovery moments over 1193 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 2: the past seven years, I think has really helped my 1194 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 2: growth as an individual, as a wife, as a mode, 1195 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: as a friend, as a daughter, as a career woman. 1196 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 2: You know, those teachable learning moments. And I think that's 1197 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 2: why so many people resonate to begin with with dead 1198 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 2: Ass podcast, because. 1199 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 3: Through talking about our experiences, sometimes having vent sessions, sometimes 1200 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 3: calling it an expert. 1201 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes have we vented a lot? 1202 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 4: Like I honestly feel like people got a chance to 1203 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 4: know who we really are through listening to the podcast. 1204 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 4: Like I've always been honest about how I feel about things, 1205 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 4: backlash or not, because I only get one chance at life, 1206 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 4: and I'm not gonna pretend to do something else that 1207 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 4: I really don't believe in, because then I got to 1208 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 4: pretend that for the rest of my life. 1209 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: So I just say how I feel. My favorite guest 1210 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: to date is gonna always. 1211 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 4: Be Tiffany elij the budgetista, Like, yeah, yeah, I've learned 1212 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 4: so much from her financially that's helped create I mean, 1213 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 4: even these opportunities about and people think the budget Nisa, 1214 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 4: She's gonna tell you how to put your money. No, 1215 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 4: she explains to you the importance difference between having a 1216 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 4: certified financial planner and an accountant. 1217 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: Small little things that you're like, oh, shoot, that is different. 1218 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 4: Well maybe I should focus more on my financial planning 1219 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 4: than accountant. Yeah, you know, like she Tiffany budgeanista, I 1220 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 4: love you girl, like you. I think she's probably one 1221 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 4: of the fan favorites as well. On then A's podcast, 1222 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 4: A Guess that they always say we should have on 1223 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 4: because so many people have. 1224 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: Learned a lot. 1225 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 3: My favorite guess is Shan. 1226 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 4: It's funny you say you hate talking about sex with 1227 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 4: the sham Boudram is one of your favorite guests, But 1228 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 4: I understand why. 1229 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, I just love her candor. I love how 1230 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: she's just so honest. Something about her whole energy and 1231 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 2: her heart spirit is super calming. I love that she 1232 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 2: always speaks from a place of like, no judgment. She's 1233 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 2: just kind of like it is what it is. But 1234 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 2: she also comes with an educational background that's a legitimate 1235 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 2: when we talk about someone having a podcast and speaking 1236 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 2: as an expert because they've actually studied their field. 1237 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 3: She is exactly that. 1238 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 4: She's also the exact example of a woman having a 1239 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 4: podcast where I would tell my friends I've said this 1240 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 4: all the time on other podcasts, like my boys who 1241 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 4: have issues with sex and stuff, I tell them, listen 1242 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 4: to Shane. That's why I listen to to learn about 1243 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 4: your body, your mentality, what you were going through. That's 1244 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: a perfect example of if we limited people from having 1245 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 4: podcasts that wild person, Like, if y'all limit Shan, it's 1246 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 4: gonna be a problem, right because she definitely. She definitely 1247 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 4: saved us from a lot of things because I was 1248 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 4: able to see and hear what she was saying from 1249 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 4: a different you know, from a different woman's perspective, and 1250 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 4: it was like, oh, I never thought about that. 1251 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: Shannon is a good one. 1252 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 4: My favorite episode because people say it's theirs, it's selling ground. 1253 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 4: And the only reason why I say it's my favorite 1254 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 4: is because people always say I changed the trajectory of 1255 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 4: my family by just listening to that, because I could 1256 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 4: explain to them why we didn't don't need to hold 1257 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 4: on to this property, use it as an asset so 1258 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 4: that we can get more properties. So that's also one 1259 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 4: of my Now I'm going over to I got so 1260 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 4: many favorite episodes. 1261 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 3: Any other favorites. 1262 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 5: I got her favorite moment. It's from a life show 1263 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 5: when you brought the boy, when the boys introduced you. 1264 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, yeah, literally was just I said I wasn't 1265 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 4: gonna cry, and I cried like a little bit happily too. 1266 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 2: I was back there so like you were, and it 1267 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 2: was wanting his own microphone. He was just like, wait 1268 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 2: a second, my brothers haven't couldn't talk talk. 1269 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 4: Was pointing at it like yo yo, and I was like, Yo, 1270 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 4: my man. It was mister Mike. Like, mister Mike, you 1271 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 4: to give him a mic, and they gave him one. 1272 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 4: Turns it on everything. He ain't say nothing, but he 1273 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 4: danced around with it. That's a good That's a good moment, Josh. 1274 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 9: No, no opinion, Josh, first and last day on the 1275 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 9: I mean they're all memorable. 1276 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 7: Well, the funniest one was when disclosed her. 1277 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 3: The moment, Oh oh, who was that episode with? 1278 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 5: I was with Kid. 1279 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes, that was listening letters episode. Shout out to kids. 1280 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 3: I feel they're like our fairy god parents in the 1281 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: in the him and Crystal. 1282 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: They're not liked they are. Yeah. 1283 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 3: They literally introduced us like to this the world. Essentially. 1284 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: The first podcast read we did was the Read. 1285 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Reads. 1286 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 4: And then I think that's how I started to get 1287 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 4: more interested in podcasts. People were tagging us and saying, like, Yo, 1288 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 4: they y'all want to read. They talked about y'all want 1289 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 4: to read, which also helped boost our following on social 1290 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 4: media forever. We went to their show, their live show, 1291 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 4: and that's when we were just like, yo, we should 1292 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 4: do some podcast live. So so shout out to Chrissy 1293 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: and Kid Ferry, what's your favorite episode Triple. 1294 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 8: Well, I said mine first, Mine was prenup or Nah, 1295 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 8: oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right from back 1296 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 8: in the day. I did also like Kadeen's poop story. 1297 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 8: It's something like something about a hot lady saying something 1298 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 8: disgusting about herself that. 1299 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm like and just not caring. 1300 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 2: It humanizes I feel like, because everyone probably has had 1301 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: a moment, you've expressed. 1302 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 5: It or not. 1303 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 8: If somebody I'm dating, if somebody I'm dating is like, oh, Kadeen, fine, 1304 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 8: I'd be like, you know she's on. 1305 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: The oh yeah, oh yeah, I have that now in 1306 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: my back brock. So thank you. 1307 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 3: You're welcome. Y'all are welcome. 1308 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 8: I do have another favorite moment that uh would be 1309 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 8: the first live show I feel like. It was February 1310 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 8: twenty twenty. I was at a film festival. I had 1311 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 8: a short film in a film festival. Is a really 1312 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 8: exciting moment for me. First time helping them produce a 1313 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 8: live show. Very exciting. Y'all were having an exciting moment. 1314 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 8: We're in two different cities. Your manager at the time 1315 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 8: calls me and says, you need some cue cards, and 1316 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 8: I'm in Boston. 1317 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: Y'all are in Philly, Yeah. 1318 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 8: At the film festival, and I'm yeah, I'm busy, bro, 1319 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 8: I'm off the clock, off the class. It's like eight 1320 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 8: o'clock at night, the snow storm outside. I hustle and 1321 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 8: make these cue cards and send them to your manager 1322 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 8: so she can get them printed, so she can get 1323 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 8: them in your hands before stage time. 1324 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Get them in your hand, and then I don't find 1325 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: out until. 1326 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 3: Weeks later. 1327 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 8: Later they run the footage back and DEVO first thirty 1328 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 8: seconds of the show. 1329 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't even take that long. 1330 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 8: I would say fifteen seconds in Devao tosses the fucking 1331 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 8: Q cards to I don't I don't need them. I 1332 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 8: don't need them. That is a favorite memory of mine. 1333 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 8: I think about it every time I print a que card. So, yeah, 1334 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 8: thank you, We're going to take a break and pay 1335 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 8: some bills. That is That's like the fourth time you 1336 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 8: brought that story. But I had to tell the story 1337 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 8: again because I think starting there, that was the first 1338 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 8: live show, and the live shows have evolved so much 1339 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 8: like then then. I feel like, was it it was 1340 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 8: video recorded, but you maybe had one camera camera. Yeah, 1341 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 8: the DJ was there and. 1342 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: It was just young no guests. 1343 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 4: No, it was an executive at that time. It was 1344 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 4: we didn't have exact they had a house DJ. They 1345 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 4: had a house DJ. We had to meet and greet beforehand. 1346 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 7: Yes, then come to Brooklyn. 1347 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Yeah, that's right. 1348 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 2: So that was essentially started that to a live shows. 1349 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 2: Like think about everyone doing live shows now podcast shows. 1350 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 2: It's like there's all sorts of stuff happening. 1351 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1352 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 8: That So that's what I was going to say with 1353 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 8: the live shows, with the setup, especially since that that 1354 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 8: show was right before the pandemic and since post pandemic, 1355 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 8: I feel like you've gotten to kind of innovate the 1356 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 8: way that we do the podcast, and it's been very influential, 1357 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 8: if I do say so myself. But we've gone from 1358 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 8: not being able to get the go pros to work 1359 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 8: at the studio. 1360 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 3: We did that, y'all. 1361 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 10: We did that. 1362 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: We've gone from trying to use go pro. 1363 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 4: I remember that get them to work go pro and 1364 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 4: we were in the studio and we had go pros 1365 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 4: one on k Oh my God to do video of 1366 01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 4: the podcast. 1367 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 5: I remember watching those episod It's terrible them go pros 1368 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 5: its like there. 1369 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Was like the fish bowl like my face. 1370 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I was like, what is this? This is not flattering. 1371 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 4: Well, before we go pay some bills, I do have 1372 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 4: to say I appreciate y'all because everything y'all see here, cameras, lights, 1373 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 4: run of shows, creative direction have been from those three 1374 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 4: people you're watching on camera right now and Kadeen and 1375 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 4: I honestly feel like it's about time y'all get in 1376 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 4: front of cameras so people can see who y'all are, 1377 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 4: and like when they see this whole set up and 1378 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 4: realize what this is, they're going to be like, Wow, 1379 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 4: this is no longer just a podcast. This is an experience, 1380 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 4: and this is an experience that we want to win 1381 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 4: awards for and we want to be critically acclaimed, so 1382 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 4: we're gonna do everything in our power. Also, shout out 1383 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 4: to the Patreon people. Pay your membership every money for 1384 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 4: a lady asked why Patreon? This is why Patreon. The 1385 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 4: people who have invested in the Patreon you are now 1386 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 4: seeing and reaping the benefits of your little four dollars 1387 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 4: a month. It don't seem like a lot before the 1388 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 4: five dollars a month. And now we have cameras, and 1389 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 4: now we have a camera crew. 1390 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Now we have life. 1391 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 4: It's not little now. Yeah, we don't think it's We 1392 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 4: don't think it's little. But I know a lot of 1393 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 4: people is like, what are they going to do with 1394 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 4: my little four dollars? This is what we're doing with 1395 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 4: your little four dollars. It's called group economics. 1396 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Right. 1397 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 4: You got a bunch of people put together, and now 1398 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 4: we're able to provide y'all better content because y'all invested 1399 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 4: in us. 1400 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: So first and foremost, Triple. 1401 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 4: Josh Matt, we love y'all, yes, like like seriously, like 1402 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 4: we really really love y'all. We love y'all back, and 1403 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 4: we appreciate y'all taking this journey with us. Patreon family, 1404 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 4: shout out to yourself. Round of applause for yourself, because 1405 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 4: you're part of the reason why we're able to do 1406 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 4: what we're doing in our home. Yes, thank you Patreon. 1407 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 4: All of the equipment you see on your top TV 1408 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 4: shows we have now because of you, So thank you. 1409 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 2: So you just want to elevate the experience for y'all, Yes, ma'am. 1410 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Ever after I see a little tear at the side 1411 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 2: of your eye. 1412 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 4: No, this is a laugh tier because because it's Triple 1413 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 4: we're telling the story here. It literally was as soon 1414 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 4: as I got on, I was like, what's up that 1415 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 4: ass podcast? 1416 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Triple got me these que cars? Fuck these que cars? 1417 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 4: And I threw them ships just like that. And I 1418 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 4: remember Triple said afterwards like, yeah, you know how long 1419 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 4: I took. I was somewhere to go make the Q 1420 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 4: cars and ever since then I give kt Q cars. 1421 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 3: So nobody thought, let's go pay So you should throw 1422 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: the bills like you throw the Q cars. 1423 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Wish I could. You can catch them now, money bags 1424 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Eli period. 1425 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back y'all, And we're back, yes, 1426 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 2: yeah to my favorite part of the show. That's something 1427 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 2: that hasn't changed still, like to getting y'all business evolution. 1428 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 1: You don't even have a iPad, no more laptop. You 1429 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: got cars. 1430 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 7: I do, I do. 1431 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 2: I felt like the laptop after a while was just 1432 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 2: cumbersome and well I had the laugh you could use 1433 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 2: your iPad you because yeah. 1434 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 5: You did that before I did. 1435 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember memories, bro, I'm trying to remember. Trying to 1436 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: forget certain things. You leave it up to your friends. 1437 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 3: A certain iPad into the off the balcony. 1438 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 4: Off you co signed the triple that's messed up and Josh, 1439 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 4: don't remember none of that. Josh, you remember that? No 1440 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 4: bro see no opinion, It didn't have no. 1441 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 2: While we're gonna get paddles sidebar, you got to get 1442 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 2: those I love that. 1443 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 4: Things to do you using the pot jist no trauma 1444 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: Capital easy, Oh my goodness. 1445 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: All right, Well, yeah, I'm still nosy, still like to 1446 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 2: hear what you got to say, and we're always gonna 1447 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 2: give our two cents as you continue to write in. 1448 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 2: We're going to give the new email address at the 1449 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: end of this episode where you're write into for advice 1450 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 2: or to just chit chat with us. Well, triple, here's 1451 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 2: the first one listener letter of Ellis ever after Hey 1452 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: kay and Deval, It's Kayla here. Hey Kayla, I wanted 1453 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 2: to give you your flowers and wanted to share some 1454 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: seriously amazing news. 1455 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:32,919 Speaker 3: I love amazing news. 1456 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 1457 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 2: Last year I wrote in, and you guys featured my 1458 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 2: letter both on the podcast and Patreon. 1459 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 3: Seriously, you all were life savers. Your advice helped me. 1460 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 2: So much, Capitals Oh in navigating my eight year relationship. 1461 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 2: I absorbed every single piece of wisdom that you shared 1462 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 2: and it all paid off big time. 1463 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 3: This past October. My boyfriend proposed. 1464 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 4: This. 1465 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm engaged. Our wedding is October eleventh. I feel like 1466 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 3: we need to be there. Drop the invitation. 1467 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 2: My now fiance and I are huge fans and we're 1468 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 2: religiously listening to the podcast and Patreon together. We just 1469 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 2: wanted to express our sincere gratitude for everything you do. 1470 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 2: You've created something truly special and we're so grateful to 1471 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: be a part of the dead Ass community and Patreon gang. 1472 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 2: Huge love to Kadeen, Devout and the whole dead ask 1473 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 2: for you guys are top tier. Sincerely, Kayla, Come on, 1474 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 2: that's why we do it. 1475 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: This is stop, y'all. 1476 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 2: Where If there are tariffs on the MIC, I guess 1477 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 2: we'll have to pay them. I don't know, because this 1478 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 2: is the reason we keep going. 1479 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 3: Babe. Look at that. 1480 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Ya just makes me wow happy. 1481 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 2: And here we are a lot of times saying like 1482 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers we really give advice. 1483 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 2: We still don't, but I'm happy to hear that our 1484 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 2: two sins have now multiplied for you and you guys 1485 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 2: are engaged. 1486 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 3: I love that. 1487 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: That's what's wow. 1488 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 3: Keep us posted, Kayla on all the HAPs Okay, that's awesome. 1489 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 4: That's what's up man. All right, prid of you guys 1490 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 4: much love, and let us know when the wedding is. 1491 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 4: You know, if we free October level if it's in Atlanta, 1492 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 4: we'll stop through all right now Number two, Dear Kadeen 1493 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 4: and Daval, I want to start off by saying I 1494 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 4: love your platform and whatever represents. 1495 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,719 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Now my problem. 1496 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 4: I am a thirty year old medical professional married to 1497 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 4: a thirty four year old fitness professional. We met online 1498 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 4: and fell for each other emotionally, spiritually and intellectually. 1499 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: I love that. So the problem is money. 1500 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 4: Of course, I make six figures, but it definitely doesn't 1501 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 4: feel like it after taxes and blessed student loans if 1502 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 4: they live in New York. I understand that my husband 1503 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 4: makes less than fifty k a year. I was okay 1504 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 4: with it at first, but now that we have a 1505 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 4: house and are trying to start having a baby, I 1506 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 4: am worried. I honestly got a second job so we 1507 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 4: could furnish and renovate our home because I can't count 1508 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 4: on him to supply money because he does pay for 1509 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 4: all the utilities and half of the mortgage with what 1510 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 4: he makes. He's been in fitness for ten plus years 1511 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,839 Speaker 4: and has a gentle soul that caters to middle aged adults. 1512 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 4: He's dabbled a little in the online space, but hasn't 1513 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 4: gotten any clients. 1514 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's grinding there. 1515 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 4: I also feel like he is okay with what he 1516 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 4: makes because I feel there's very little sense of urgency, 1517 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 4: Like when he's home, he's relaxing on video games. 1518 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 1: I hate that. 1519 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 4: On my day off, I'm trying to figure out how 1520 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 4: I can make more to live more comfortably, which has 1521 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 4: made me realize I need to get him to have 1522 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 4: online clients. He has no interest in getting any job 1523 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 4: that would require him to have a boss, even though 1524 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 4: he would make more. I understand, because yes, he has 1525 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 4: more liberties being self employed. However, taking off more than 1526 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 4: a week per month is a problem for my husband 1527 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 4: because he can't because then he can't make money because 1528 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't have an online presence. Mind you, it's not 1529 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 4: like I'm a gold digger wanting to go I don't 1530 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 4: think you're gold digger. Neither want to go on lovest vacations. 1531 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 4: I barely have time for that. I just want when 1532 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 4: we go on vacation. He's not trying to figure out 1533 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 4: how to rebound. I want to help him make more 1534 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,799 Speaker 4: of an online presence, so we're both not at a strain. 1535 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 4: What are your suggestions to grab more clients and build 1536 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,759 Speaker 4: an online fitness empire. 1537 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's something that you've done kind of that is online. 1538 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Space, not in an online space, but but yes, there 1539 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: are ways. 1540 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 4: First and foremost, shout out to y'all for working together 1541 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 4: as an entrepreneur and also in a medical space. I 1542 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 4: do also understand her mentality because she works based on salary, 1543 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 4: so she's used to getting a certain amount of money. 1544 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 4: He doesn't work on salary, so he's not used to 1545 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 4: getting a certain amount of money. This is my first issue. 1546 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 4: If you make less than fifty thousand dollars and you 1547 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 4: want to make more money, there should be no reason 1548 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 4: in the world why you wann video games at any 1549 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 4: point in your life. I just had this argument with 1550 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 4: someone very close to me, and I screamed at him, 1551 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 4: get off the fucking video games. 1552 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Literally right. 1553 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 4: If you have time in the day, that time in 1554 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 4: the day should be going towards how you are going 1555 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 4: to create more money or more revenue to help supplement 1556 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 4: your wife or your partner, whoever that is. 1557 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: That's number one, number two in the fitness space. 1558 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 4: You have to understand that the greatest way for you 1559 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 4: to make money isn't only in customer retention. 1560 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: It's also in small group training. And it's just for 1561 01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: me from knowing. 1562 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 4: If you tell one of your clients, right, hey, I'll 1563 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 4: give you half four off your session if you bring 1564 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 4: three people to your session. 1565 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Right, this is what I use a marketing strategy. And 1566 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: they're like, wait a minute. 1567 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 4: I pay At the time, it wasn't super expensive, but 1568 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 4: it was sixty dollars per session, and they're like, wait, 1569 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 4: I can do thirty dollars per session if I bring 1570 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 4: three people. 1571 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,600 Speaker 1: They were like yeah, They're like, but how does that 1572 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: work for me? 1573 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 4: I said, it's going to help you because you pay less, 1574 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 4: but also you have people to compete with. And what 1575 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 4: people don't realize about losing weight or losing body fat, 1576 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,560 Speaker 4: most of it is motivation. If you have someone in 1577 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,639 Speaker 4: your group that's doing the same thing as you. You guys, 1578 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 4: work harder, iron sharpens iron. If you come there every 1579 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 4: day for an hour to work harder, you'll lose more weight. 1580 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 4: But here comes the economics. You bring one person and 1581 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 4: they pay half off, it's the same price you bring 1582 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 4: three people. Now you're doubling your quota for the hour. 1583 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 4: So from sixty dollars an hour down to thirty for 1584 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 4: that person, and all those other people are paying thirty dollars. Now, 1585 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 4: how much we got one hundred and twenty dollars per hour. 1586 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 4: Now you just doubled what you make. Plus you doubled 1587 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 4: your reach because you have four people that you can 1588 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 4: tell them, Hey, if you have anyone else who wants 1589 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 4: to train, let them know I can give them a 1590 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 4: discount rate. That's the first thing, maxt in your time, yes, 1591 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 4: because when you duplicate yourself, you give yourself autonomy over 1592 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 4: that time. 1593 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: The other thing is online training. 1594 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Online training is imperfect if you create programs before you 1595 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 4: create online training, create online programs that you can sell 1596 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,560 Speaker 4: to people. I've seen people make hundreds of thousands of 1597 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 4: dollars per quarter. 1598 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: Am I lying? 1599 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? I know two people that come right off the 1600 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 3: bat to mine from online. 1601 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 2: I mean in an online program that's like twenty nine 1602 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,839 Speaker 2: ninety nine yes, or like an eight week program. 1603 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 1604 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 3: And you think about that times how many people we have. 1605 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you had a large following on social media. 1606 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 2: Right, but you get a thousand people that following, you know, 1607 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: and the proof is in the pudding. Like be a 1608 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 2: good trainer. 1609 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 3: That's also a part of it too. 1610 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 2: You want to have people that are actually making a 1611 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 2: change and you can see the difference in the before 1612 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 2: and after. Sometimes help with that as well, to you 1613 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 2: to keep people motivated, to say, I want to look 1614 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 2: like that. It's a fickle industry because you have people 1615 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 2: who are you know, on again, off again. 1616 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 3: But if you're a good trainer, there's potential there for sure. 1617 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 4: Most of the trainers I know now making their money 1618 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 4: on online programs or a program that I was thinking 1619 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 4: about called Prototype on Demand when I was doing Prototype 1620 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 4: Sports Performance where you can train people virtually and you 1621 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 4: do virtual classes. That's another way if you've never thought 1622 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,799 Speaker 4: about it. So you have online programs, virtual classes, online 1623 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 4: sessions for one on one, online group classes. 1624 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: That's always for. 1625 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 4: You to get autonomy over your time rather than losing 1626 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 4: time going from place to place a personal person. This 1627 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 4: is the most important thing, though, I think I have 1628 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 4: to say, gentlemen, this may sound very old school, but 1629 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 4: this is something that my father had always said to me. 1630 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 4: If you decide to marry a woman and you want 1631 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 4: that woman to have your child or your children, it 1632 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 4: is not her responsibility to be an earner. The reason 1633 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 4: why is because there's a lot that comes with carrying 1634 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 4: a child, and then half after carrying a child, nurturing 1635 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 4: that child and asking a person to balance a career 1636 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 4: and nurturing a child is very difficult. So, as a man, 1637 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 4: if you're asking your wife or your girl to have children, 1638 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 4: be prepared fiscally to handle that responsibility on your own. Now, 1639 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 4: if she finds a way to balance, it can help you. 1640 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Cool. 1641 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 4: It's a surplus, that's extra. But as a dude, this 1642 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,959 Speaker 4: is one thing my dad told me, and my grandfather 1643 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 4: told me. If you have a child, and what if 1644 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,439 Speaker 4: that woman can't work? What if she has a baby 1645 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 4: like you had and had twenty four stitches in your 1646 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 4: cervix and you can't work, what are you then gonna 1647 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 4: tell your wife and you going to suck that up? 1648 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Get out there? 1649 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 4: No, what if she's dealing with postpartum depression? What if 1650 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 4: she has hormone and balance? You know what I'm saying, 1651 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 4: there are things that happen to women. As a man, 1652 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 4: any man, young man, older man, if you're looking to 1653 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 4: have kids, make sure that you and your wallet can 1654 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 4: handle that responsibility. 1655 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: Don't try to pass that on. 1656 01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 4: As we're gonna split this fifty to fifty mortgage can 1657 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 4: be f less up, but when it comes time to 1658 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 4: have kids, she got to carry it. 1659 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: She can't pass that fifty to fifty, right. 1660 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Sure can't. 1661 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: She got a birth for right that she can't pass 1662 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 1: the birth and thing right now. So you can't pass that, bro. 1663 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 4: Sorry, it may seem old school or I'm jumping on 1664 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 4: you as a man, but got to deal with that. 1665 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I can't tell her to pass on the placenter. 1666 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 3: Sure can't. 1667 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, Good luck to y'all as y'all navigate, 1668 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, try to figure this out. They're married, they 1669 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 2: say they're married. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good 1670 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 2: conversation to have to at least y'all have in the conversation. 1671 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully he's recepted. 1672 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 1: To get off the games, bro, seriously, like that's just 1673 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: killing your brain and your time. 1674 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 3: Indeed. 1675 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 2: All right, So if you want to be featured as 1676 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 2: a listener, y'all, we have a new email address. Okay, 1677 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: it's the Ellis Advice at gmail dot com. 1678 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 1: That's t h E E L L I S A 1679 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,719 Speaker 1: d V I C E at Gmail. 1680 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 3: So moment of truth time. 1681 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 1: This is the first moment of truth for us ever. 1682 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,759 Speaker 3: A moment of truth. 1683 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought, we go back to a question that 1684 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 2: we didn't quite get to as the moment of truth 1685 01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 2: and we can have everybody answer it. 1686 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it. 1687 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to as a team with 1688 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 3: Elis ever After? 1689 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 4: Much like we did in a live space, I'm looking 1690 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 4: forward to changing the way people consume podcasts because we 1691 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 4: are about to elevate the game. 1692 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward to. That was a great question, Pardoner, Thank. 1693 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 3: You all good. 1694 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,400 Speaker 2: Actually you kind of stole a part of mine, but 1695 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 2: I was going to say, I'm looking forward to collectively 1696 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: elevating the Ellis ever After experience. We saw what we 1697 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 2: were able to do with dead Ass starting seven years 1698 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,600 Speaker 2: ago when we almost had no idea what podcasting was 1699 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 2: at the time, and I think that dead Ass really 1700 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 2: was able to set the tone and raise the bar 1701 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 2: and change the way people consume podcasting audio wise but 1702 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 2: also visually and then in the live show space. I 1703 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,000 Speaker 2: want to give us our flowers and say that we 1704 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 2: were pioneers in that, you know, in that space, So I'm. 1705 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 3: Period you know what I'm saying. 1706 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to the heights that we can 1707 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 2: go to with Ellis ever after, now that we are 1708 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 2: in a new space with new energy, getting input formally Trouble, 1709 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,680 Speaker 2: Josh and Matt, and collectively finding a way to make 1710 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,640 Speaker 2: sure that this is going to be the experience that 1711 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,560 Speaker 2: you guys have been waiting for. 1712 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that. 1713 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 4: Before we ask everybody else, I also just want to 1714 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 4: say I want to continue to share how we do 1715 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,959 Speaker 4: things and build and continue to not gatekeep information absolutely, 1716 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 4: So I look forward to over these next couple of 1717 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 4: years letting you guys know how we're building and developed 1718 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 4: the podcast, the next live show, TV shows, films, books, 1719 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 4: We have so many things on the horizon and we 1720 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 4: look forward to showing you how we're doing it so 1721 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 4: that you guys can take that information and doing yourself. 1722 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 4: You don't need nobody to give you an opportunity, go 1723 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 4: make it on your own. 1724 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys. Before I passed the mic twenty 1725 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 2: twenty four for us, I felt like was a very 1726 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 2: It was a trying year in that it was a 1727 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 2: transitional year from us change, a lot of change, a 1728 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 2: lot of trying to navigate things professionally and also from 1729 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 2: a personal perspective, and we were able to plant a 1730 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 2: lot of seeds in twenty twenty four. And I read 1731 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 2: somewhere recently through someone, It's just funny how God sends 1732 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,560 Speaker 2: messages to you through people that this was going to 1733 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,839 Speaker 2: be collectively for you and I the year of harvest. 1734 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 2: And when I saw that, I almost got like supermo 1735 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 2: actually kind of did get really emotional because I'm like, 1736 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 2: that's exactly the conversation I had with God at the 1737 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty four, and I felt like he 1738 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 2: pushed us into a certain direction that forced us to 1739 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 2: kind of recalibrate plant those seeds and for twenty twenty 1740 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 2: five at the very top of the year, and this 1741 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 2: is a separate episode that I'm going to recant the 1742 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 2: story at the top of the year, getting a text 1743 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 2: message from someone that completely changed my life and further 1744 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 2: confirmed to me that this is going to be the year. 1745 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 3: Of harvest for us moving forward. 1746 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 2: So I'm super excited for the blessings that are on 1747 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 2: en route and the ones that have already taken place. 1748 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 2: I'm just super excited. 1749 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 8: Trude, what are you looking forward to or elis after 1750 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 8: ever After? Yeah, man, I'm looking forward to the new 1751 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 8: iteration of this podcast. I'm looking forward to talking more. 1752 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the dms. You know what I'm 1753 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 8: saying if you out there, because only single one on 1754 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 8: the team you are. I'm looking forward to getting married 1755 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 8: later this year to one of y'all. 1756 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 4: And stop asking me if Triple is really gay triple 1757 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,640 Speaker 4: gay gay triple. Don't like dude, she loves women, so 1758 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 4: stop asking me. 1759 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: I know she's fine. 1760 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 3: She don't want y'all do eligible bachelor. 1761 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 5: With her? 1762 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 2: With her? 1763 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:12,920 Speaker 8: You like trible? 1764 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Your hair? 1765 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 8: No haird like I said earlier, a little hair and 1766 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 8: on stop nothing but comb. 1767 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 1: You know I can tell you by your sweater. You 1768 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: like here, give me a little fun, So Trible looking 1769 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,679 Speaker 1: forward to the hose? Matt, what you looking forward. 1770 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 5: To the hose? Uh? This is new for me, like 1771 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 5: speaking in general, but I think it's gonna be fun. 1772 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to this getting I'm getting used to 1773 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 5: the idea of people opening up and people getting to 1774 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 5: know me, learn the artists and stuff those things, so. 1775 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: That Josh I ain't sign up for all of this, Josh, 1776 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 1: Josh exactly. 1777 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 9: I ain't known this when it first, when the idea 1778 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,000 Speaker 9: came about to do it in this format, I was like, 1779 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 9: I ain't gonna be on camera. I said that to Ma, 1780 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 9: say you get a camera and that that'll be your camera, right, 1781 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 9: and I'll be on the side. But the reality is 1782 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 9: I didn't understand what the division is. But you know, 1783 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,040 Speaker 9: I got the vision today. Yeah, that's how you want. 1784 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 9: I gotta like that, you know, But I got the 1785 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:28,639 Speaker 9: vision today, And the reality is, I'm looking forward to evolution, man, 1786 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 9: it is. 1787 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 7: It is a great thing to not be stagnant and 1788 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 7: not to want to be stagnant. So I love this. 1789 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 7: I love this for y'all. 1790 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,720 Speaker 9: I love this for myself, and I'm looking forward to 1791 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 9: most tempering myself and not embarrassing myself on camera. 1792 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 4: Right. 1793 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 1: This is the ultimate test. 1794 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 7: It is to you know, think about what you say 1795 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 7: before you say it. 1796 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,800 Speaker 1: It is no bro, absolutely a moment for people to 1797 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 1: understand that. 1798 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 7: But yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. This is great, good. 1799 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 3: Stuff, good stuff. 1800 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: I love that for all of us. 1801 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 3: I sure do. 1802 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,600 Speaker 2: Those were awesome moments of truth, all right, y'all. Let 1803 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 2: me go to my que cons y'all. You know, I'm 1804 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 2: a little rust decent. We just come back all lot 1805 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 2: my place, and the sequence of what we got we. 1806 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Having to say, y'all know about heart? 1807 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 3: Do you know by heart? And I just want to 1808 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:20,880 Speaker 3: make sure nothing changed, do you know? 1809 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: Cause what's that podcast name? Oh? 1810 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 3: Well, of course we know that that changed. 1811 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,559 Speaker 2: So be sure to find us y'all on Patreon because 1812 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 2: we're still there and we are aiming to do some 1813 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 2: more lives on Patreon, y'all. 1814 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,599 Speaker 3: We just had to kind of get our footing. 1815 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 2: Like I said, twenty twenty four was a beast, but 1816 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 2: now that we're kind of recalibrated and we're going to 1817 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 2: definitely jump on some more lives to connect with you 1818 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 2: guys more. But you can find us on Patreon if 1819 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 2: you're not there yet for the after show, because we're 1820 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 2: still going to have the llis ever after after the show, 1821 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 2: so we're still building that out. And just so you 1822 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 2: know that our set, our new set we're super excited about. 1823 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 2: This is actually Devou's man cave space that we have 1824 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 2: turned into our set, So thank you. 1825 01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 3: For loaning this to us. 1826 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,680 Speaker 2: Pleasure, and we're still continuing to like put up the 1827 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 2: core pieces. We'll have some new furnisure coming in, so 1828 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 2: just be with us on the journey. You know, we 1829 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 2: want y'all to see this as it's unfolding in real time. 1830 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 2: But you can find more exclusive Ellis ever After video 1831 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 2: content on Patreon and you can find us, of course 1832 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 2: on social media. So the dead Ass podcast page, if 1833 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,080 Speaker 2: you're on it now, it will eventually change to Ellis 1834 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 2: ever After, and then you can continue to find me 1835 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 2: at kadeen I am. 1836 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: And I Am devout. 1837 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 4: And if you're listening on Apple podcasts, be sure to rate, 1838 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 4: review and subscribe. 1839 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: Please do. And as always, I'm gonna end every episode holo. 1840 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 5: Hold hold, hold up, they can't find us at Underscore 1841 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 5: Matt dot l you absolute because I need it? 1842 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 3: Sure you know, Matt, I don't. I don't talk too much, 1843 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 3: but here's my hand as you should. 1844 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 7: You don't gotta find me on instag you can find 1845 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 7: me on email me for pricing. 1846 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 1: I n f O at Josh Doway dot com. 1847 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I n f O at j O s h 1848 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 7: u A d w A I N dot com. 1849 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 5: There you go, y'all can. 1850 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 4: Tell Josh is new and I love to get the 1851 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 4: organic evolution of Josh, because I guarantee you a couple 1852 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 4: of weeks from now, we're gonna do this again. 1853 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Josh's gonna be telling everybody what to do. That's what 1854 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,919 Speaker 1: Josh like to do. He gonna have his whole Instagram 1855 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 1: name change pictures of it. I know, I know, Josh. 1856 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to feel his way through it. He 1857 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:33,799 Speaker 3: has to be convinced. 1858 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,679 Speaker 8: You can find me on Instagram at Trips the Cool 1859 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 8: t R I B b Z t H E C 1860 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 8: double O L. That's also my website and on TikTok. 1861 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and as always, I'm gonna finish every episode with 1862 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,559 Speaker 4: this dead ass. 1863 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 7: No. 1864 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,639 Speaker 1: That's episode. 1865 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 8: Ellis ever After is an iHeartMedia podcast. It's hosted by 1866 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,799 Speaker 8: Kadeen and Deval Ellis. It's produced by Triple Video, Production 1867 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,800 Speaker 8: by Joshua Duane and Matthew Ellis, video editing by Lashan Rowe. 1868 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 12: To gif had to give You, had to give Me 1869 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 12: to give you has nothing to kids 1870 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 4: Twenty