1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to sports. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, happy Saturday to you. You know, I 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: hate to be the bearer of bad news, but. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I think this is lame. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: I think there is a story in sports that is lame. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: I hate to start off on a critical foot. If 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: you will, let me exchange pleasantries with my compadres over here, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger Jared Smith. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: How are things in your world? 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Huh? 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Everything good, fantastic, better than yours. 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: I guess you have no things you're find although I 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: am rubbed the wrong way by the same exact thing 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: that bring to the table here. So yes, go ahead, 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: unravel this thing. How are you doing. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Fantastic? I didn't realize so surly Rich here? Huh Surly Rich? Okay. 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: At first I was like, this is either dumb or lame. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: With Caitlin Clark and Sabrini Gytnes who both not being 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: in the WNBA three point contest last night, right, this 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: is the All Star weekend, these are all the festivities, 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: so there was some doubt. Did the WNBA not invite them? 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Did they not invite either or neither? Like what's going 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: on here? So the WNBA confirmed on Thursday that they 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: invited both, but both declined, and Sabrina's reason was, I 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: don't know if I could outdo what. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: I did last season. She was amazing. 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: She hit twenty five of her last twenty six shots 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: in the three point contest. 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: The reason for Caitlin Clark not participating quote, I need 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: a break. 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: End quote. I got a question for you guys. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: Is she not participating in that All Star game tonight 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: where it's the WNBA All Stars against the US Olympic. 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so you needed a break. 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: Now, I counted all the three point shots, so for 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: like one minute, we're talking twenty seven shots here. Let's 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: say she moves on to another round, We're talking fifty 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: four shots. You get a few shots up in practice, 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: one hundred shots too. 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Taxing, huh too? Taxing for a three point contest, But 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: playing in the All Star game that makes zero sense. 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I sound like yelling at clouds. 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: I realize that, but I'm okay with it because the 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: WNBA has so much momentum right now. I didn't watch 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: a second of this thing last night because I'm not 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: interested in seys shooting threes. Okay, if Caitlin Clark is 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: involved in that thing, I'm absolutely watching that. It's another 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: missed opportunity for the WNBA. They've got the momentum, capitalize 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: on it, keep it going in your direction. 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: But no, Sabrina, no Caitlin, no thank you. I was 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: completely out. 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, here's the funny thing about it. I'm so glad. 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: I'm happy now. I was upset for a specific reason, 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: and now I'm happy because we're upset about different things 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: and we're kind of on opposite side. So I've seen 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: some of the reaction like you just had here on Twitter. 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: You know, people are upset that Clark is deciding not 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: to do this, and I have to be perfectly honest 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: with you, I'm thrilled that she isn't a lot of 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: people complain about the jaded athlete, and I completely understand why, 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: because a lot of people who support these athletes, who 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: go to the games, who buy the tickets, who buy 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: the jerseys, they're not making even close to what these 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: athletes are making. And in certain cases, these athletes are 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: pretty privileged people. You know, they get to do things, 67 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: see things, be a part of opportunities that very few 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: people on the planet are and some of it, not 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: all of it, certainly not all of it. Some of 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: it is lucky. You know, you get born into a 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: body that's even capable of being in the con You know, 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: not everybody's a seven footer, so that means not everybody 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: has a body that's capable of being a big man 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: in the NBA. Now from there, it's what you do 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: with that body that has a huge determination on whether 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: or not you make it to the WNBA. In the 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: case of Caitlin Clark, she is in terms of the 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: general population of women abnormally tall, being over six feet tall, 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: and being a woman, you are in the one percent 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: there are so few of you round. And then on 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: top of it, she had this undeniable thirst for greatness, 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: and so she shot three pointers until her shoulders were 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: on fire her entire young life, and it led her 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: to Iowa and all the opportunities she had with the 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: Hawkeyes and now to the WNBA. However, at a certain point, 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: this does happen to every athlete. You can ask them, 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: professional or otherwise. If you play long enough, it will 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: happen to you too. All of a sudden, you have 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: a coach, or you'll have a circumstance, or you'll have 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of issues that will lead you to feel 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: like you're being exploited or taking at advantage of, or 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: not getting your due. And anybody who participates in anything, 93 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a sport, I don't care, 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: if it's work, I don't care if it's a hobby. 95 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: When you start feeling that way, it makes everything less fun. 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: So the elective things like shooting three pointers at the 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: All Star Games, all of a sudden, ah, not so much. 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: You know what this year? Do it without me, especially 99 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: the way that I've been treated this season, not only 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: by the players around that WNBA, where at times she 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: has been savaged, whether it be you know, at the podium, 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: you know, ridiculed for seemingly no good reason, or on 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: the court taking some cheap shots and things of that nature. 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure she is tired. I'm sure she is also 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: a little jaded, because I bet you wet behind the 106 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: ears coming out of Iowa ready for the draft, getting 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: drafted first, overall a lot of positive vibes, and then 108 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: all of a sudden again to WNBA and being like, Hey, 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: what did I do to all of you other than 110 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: bring the world's attention to your doorstep? Why are you 111 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: treating me like a stepchild. I don't get it. Well, 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: this is this is, in my terms, the retribution the 113 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: w NBA deserves. 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: For mishandling this whole season with Caitlin Clark. Wow, those 115 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: are two very very stern Toddy. We're we're off and 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: running here on a Saturday. 117 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: We really are. 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: We need more from you. Come on, join the party, 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: all right, all right, get in, all right, fine, fine, Brian. 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: I think you're a little bit off base here. 121 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: Just a little bit. I honestly think this is okay. 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: I do, and I think most of us can relate 123 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: to this because this is the only sport where this happens. 124 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: This would never happen in the NBA, This would never 125 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: happen in college or in college football to the NFL 126 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: because the seasons are all lined up. But the WNBA 127 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: is kind of misaligned with the college basketball women's season. 128 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: It starts right when the women's season ends. It's like 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 4: one leads directly into the other. And I understand why 130 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: this year Caitlin Clark says I'm gonna take a pass. 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I do, I honestly do. She's never done the event before. 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: It does take some practice and the the The answer 133 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: she gave I think it was last night was pretty honest. 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: You know, she basically came out and said, hey, guys, 135 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: I'm just fricking tired, man like, and. 136 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: We call we can all relate to that. We we 137 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: we all can. Like it's been a long year. She's 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: taking a night off. 139 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: She's not taking the whole weekend off. She's taking one 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: night off, one night because it's going to hammer her 141 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: for it. Yeah, so taxing to shoot twenty three but. 142 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: Here, But but it is to her, And who are 143 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: we to say it's not like that's the thing, Like 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: who like us as sports fans get this event and 145 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: we want to absorb it. And I understand we want 146 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: her in it. I'm sure she will be in it 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: at some point, but just give her one night off, 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: like she's been entertaining us for months now. College basketball 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: season ended in April right into the WNBA started in June, 150 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: and now we're here in July. Like, I'm okay with 151 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: her taking a night I don't understand Sabrina's excuse. 152 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: I didn't hear Sabrina's answer. 153 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: You know, I'm guessing we're hearing it's because of last year. 154 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: But I didn't hear her directly say it. I watched 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clark interview. She looked the reporter dead in 156 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: the eyes and she said, I'm tired. I need a 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: night off. And like I can relate to that. Who 158 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: am I to say? No, I work all these days 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 4: and be nice. If someone was like, Okay, take the 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: night off. I understand your take, Brian, I honestly do. 161 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: And I want her in it, and I think all 162 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: the fans do, and I think eventually she will be 163 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: in it. I just think this year I'll give her 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt, no benefit of the doubt 165 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: on my end. Over here, I'll tell you why a 166 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: couple of things here. The first part is she is 167 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: not the real reason girl. Okay, uh, we've talked about 168 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: dating on this show before. 169 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Listen. 170 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like used right into the dating world. Okay, if 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: a girl says, you know, I'm just I had a 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: friend girl in Texas, right, a girlfriend friend A situationship 173 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: is the no, no, not even that, not even that's 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: literally a friend girl. 175 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: And she told me there was this guy that asked 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: her out. 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: And she said, oh, you know, I'm just I'm real 178 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: busy right now, and I said, is that are you 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: really busy right now? Is that the real reason? And 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: she was like, I just really wasn't interested. This happens 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: all the time. I was I just need a break, 182 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm really tired. 183 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Not the reading she wanted. 184 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking, I know that she's not giving you 185 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: the actual real reason. 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: The real reason is a bit of what rich. 187 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: Is talking about, where she has been the golden goose 188 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: for the WNBA, and she's gotten from the league way 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: more negativity than praise. 190 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: Okay, and another thing, this is something that Angel. 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Rees said earlier in the season that goes right into 192 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: why Caitlin Clark skipped the three point contest last night. 193 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: I'll look back at twenty years and be like, yeah, the. 194 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: Reason why we watch our women's basketball is not just 195 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: because of one person. 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: It's because of me too. And I want you to 197 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: realize that. 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Okay, You've got a lot of players in the league 199 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: saying it's because of me too. 200 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: It's not just this Caitlyn Clark girl. 201 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: So I think the last thing she wants to do 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: is make an event about her because she knows that's 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: the way it's going to be received within the league. 204 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: To a large degree where she just wants to whop. 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: She just wants to sort of fade into the background, 206 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: do her thing, and get away from the drama. 207 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: I understand all of that. 208 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: Don't buy for a second that she's tired. 209 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: That is the. 210 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: Biggest low of BS I've ever heard in my life. 211 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: This is not incredibly taxing. 212 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: If she really was tired, she would not be playing 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: in a game tonight. 214 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: That so that makes no sense whatsoever. It's not the 215 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: real reason. The real reason is what I just explained 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: to you. She's gotten a lot of criticism. She doesn't 217 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: want to make it about her, so she's like, you 218 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna take the night off. I can 219 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: understand that, but I still think this is a me moment. 220 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: I think this is, you know what, this is what's 221 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: best for me. It's certainly not what's best for the league. 222 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: And when well that I agree with, yes, that that's 223 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent true. She's not making this decision with 224 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: the best interests of the league in mind. You know, 225 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: even regardless of what the answer is, even if it's 226 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, what we're talking about fifty percent, she's 227 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: a little bit upset about the way she's treated fifty percent. 228 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: She could just use a night off. 229 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: She is playing in the game tomorrow night, to go 230 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: from the All Star Game to the you know, the 231 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: three point to the All Star get back back like again, 232 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: I don't know how physically taxing it really is. I've 233 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: never prepared for an event like this. She does doesn't 234 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: take I don't take her as a person who wouldn't 235 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 4: put one hundred percent effort into it and really practice 236 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: for it. Now, maybe she's lying, she could be lying. 237 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if she's lying about She's never trained 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: for the event before. She's never done it before, she's 239 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: never practiced for it. She didn't want to, you know, 240 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: go through that, even if it is fifty percent what 241 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: you're saying, fifty percent, she's tired. It's it is a 242 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 4: selfish decision. I'm not denying that it's a selfish decision. 243 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm just giving her a little bit of space because 244 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: I think she has had a really taxing year. I 245 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: think the things that she's been through on a day 246 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: to day basis would drive a normal human being to insanity. 247 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: You are the star of the league and you are 248 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: being treated like you're not. If you went home every 249 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: night and you were the star of this network and 250 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: you were treated like the bottom of the barrel, you 251 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: would be upset. 252 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: You would want to lash out. But she hasn't. She 253 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: hasn't lashed out once. 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: She has handled this so well that I'm giving her 255 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: a night to breathe. I agree with your original take. 256 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: She should be in it, just like Lebron should be 257 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: in the Dunk Contest every year. The Dunk Contest stinks 258 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: every year because we haven't had the stars in it, 259 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: and we give the stars in the NBA crap and 260 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 4: if not, we should because they should be in it. 261 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: I'm just giving her a night to breathe because, let's 262 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 4: be honest, at the end of the day, it's wail, 263 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: it's WNBA three point Contest. 264 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: It's not going to move the needle that much. I 265 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna move. Here's the last thing. 266 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: Else. 267 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 4: If she was in it, you think we would all 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: be like, oh my god, three point copy like it 269 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: would be a watch, but it wouldn't be the end 270 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: of the world. 271 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm giving her a little space to breathe tonight. That's all. 272 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: Let me say one thing real fast, Rich and you 273 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: can go so little radio story over here. 274 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 275 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 276 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: There was a consultant we had in Albany, New York 277 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: at the time, Rick Scott, sports radio veteran, and he 278 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: said one time to me, is like, hey, Brian, you 279 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: make a little adjustment here, you make a little improvement there, 280 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you've got a great radio station. 281 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: It's the same thing in sports, you know a lot 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: of times, it's not this big mammoth move. It's a 283 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: little thing here, it's a little thing there. It's more 284 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: momentum here. It's that's what it is. And so no, 285 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't think this is a make or break thing. 286 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a missed opportunity for more momentum. That's what it 287 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: was with That absolutely is the case. And I didn't 288 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: watch a second of it neither. If you've got Caitlin 289 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Clark starring in that thing, I promise you I'm watching 290 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: the three point concert. 291 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: And so that's a missed opportunity one night, right, Like 292 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: it's one night. I'm not gonna I'm not going to 293 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: define her career on it. 294 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: I think Rich might have I think I think Rich 295 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: might have been so heated that first segment he dropped off. 296 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yet I think he might be right. Actually 297 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: dawn on me until it's like, you know what, we're 298 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: just away Saturday. I'm like, you know, I haven't a 299 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: used Rich of not being chatty, you know what I mean. 300 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you're onto something over here, Charity. 301 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I saw text message. 302 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: That's why I hopped in and started to steer the ship, 303 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: hopefully not into a glacier. 304 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, it's well, that's the thing. You're real, 305 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: real fast. 306 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: That's the weird thing I think in sports. I don't 307 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: want to get too philosophical here, but it seems like 308 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: there are no varying degrees of criticism, right. If you 309 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: are critical of an athlete, especially someone like Caitlin Clark 310 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: too many, it's like. 311 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: You're calling her out, and it's. 312 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Like, no, man, I'm not losing sleep over this. I 313 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: just think it was a missed opportunity. 314 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: It definitely was. 315 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: I guess I'm just a little bit softer in my 316 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: old age. 317 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: I don't. 318 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: It absolutely is a missed opportunity. There's no doubt about that. 319 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh hey, hey, look at that. 320 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: We're not dropped and you're just so heated Rich. So 321 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: here's the problem. I didn't realize manner in that drop 322 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: that I'm trying to interrupt them, like why is nobody listening? Yeah? 323 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Or just like we got this, Rich, we got it, 324 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: don't worry, we got it. O Lord, Hey, wait, got 325 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: him here. Let's do this Rich. 326 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: We'll pick it back up because I want to get 327 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: your follow up thoughts. 328 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: We'll do that. 329 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: We've got Rich oron Berger, Penn State All American, Jared 330 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst. 331 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm Brian No, We'll get Rich's reaction. 332 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: Also, both options are bad, but one is better than 333 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: the other. We'll lay that out for you as well. 334 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 335 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 336 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: the nation. 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The way tire buying should be. You know, 364 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: it's funny. I was just thinking about this where the 365 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: global it outages. It hits differently when it affects you, right, 366 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: Like I saw last night with one of the WNBA players, 367 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: her flight was canceled. 368 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: She couldn't get to the All star festivities. That sucks. 369 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: But this morning when Rich was like, hey, we got 370 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: some internet issues, I'm like, oh shoot, we got no 371 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: Rich right now? Like, it hits differently when your personal 372 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: world is affected more. Okay, if we circle back, Rich, 373 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: we wanted you to weigh in here and we'll move 374 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: it along. But Caitlin Clark, in my opinion, lame shunning 375 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: the three point competition. 376 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: But what I'm getting. 377 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: Older and older every day. 378 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: You know it's ending more like it? Well, where do 379 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: you come out on this, Rich. 380 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'll wave my fist at the sky from 381 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: time to time. Yeah I don't. I don't mind being 382 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: crotchety when it shoots, So I don't blame you. Look, 383 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: we all pick our battles. And I think it is 384 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: often expressed by sports fans, and you are a great 385 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: sports fan. You know, discontent or displeasure with the personal 386 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: beliefs or decision making by athletes. But I think what's 387 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: forgotten or lost in a lot of these conversations is 388 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: the fact that these are people who are affected by 389 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: the things that we, you know, are are discussing. You know, 390 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: the all of the trials and tribulations that Caitlin Clark 391 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: has faced over the course of this short turnaround. You know, 392 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: she was I mean, it wasn't just a handful of 393 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: months ago that she was participating in the National Championship Game. 394 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: And then it's been a whirlwind to get to this 395 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: point where the All Star Game and the three point 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: Contest and everything that's happened in between has been you know, 397 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: at times rewarding, I'm sure, but for the most part, 398 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: I imagine, extremely stressful, confusing. There probably have been a 399 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: lot of first times over the course of this past 400 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, handful of months, and we know just from 401 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: being people, how uncomfortable first times are. You know, every 402 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: time you know, start a new job, or every time 403 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: you're in a new medical building looking for some specialists 404 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: your doctor referred you to and you don't there's no 405 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: uh what floor am I on? And how do I 406 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: get to Suite two to oh one? I mean, if 407 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: you you know, if you uh, I don't know injure 408 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: a finger in a basketball game and you're forced to 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: brush your teeth with your left hand instead of your 410 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: right hand. I mean, that's an inconvenience that will throw 411 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: some people. Imagine having your whole world turned upside down. 412 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: And even though a lot of it has been largely positive. 413 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean, she's a professional basketball player, she signed multimillion 414 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 3: marketing contract with an enormous sports company like Nike, and 415 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: all the great things that have happened, there have been 416 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: a lot of negative things that have happened too. And 417 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 3: if she needs a break, she needs a break. And 418 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: I think as a person from from one person to 419 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: another person, I know exactly how that feels. And it 420 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what your station is in life. Sometimes you're 421 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: overwhelmed and you're just putting on a polite face for 422 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: the rest of society to see, and meanwhile your insides 423 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: feel like they're on fire because you just want to 424 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: be in your house and be alone for a little bit. 425 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: I bet you there's a little bit of that going 426 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: on for Caitlin Clark. So I sympathize for her, and 427 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: I think this is a smart decision. If this is 428 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: the decision that she thinks is best for her. 429 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: Rich nailed it. 430 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: I have no further comment, just so many excuses for us. 431 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: It is. 432 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: It's so taxy, but. 433 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: I just can't muster up the energy to get Meanwhile, 434 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: she's game tonight, front and center, you know, spotlight. 435 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: You gotta be in the game. But the three point. 436 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: Contest, she says she's never practiced through the three point 437 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: like it takes. 438 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Do you want her to go out there and stink 439 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: it up? 440 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: Like, I'm sure it takes some kind of preparation for it, 441 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: especially I've never done it before. 442 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 3: Also, like imagine this, like, so, I mean, maybe she 443 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: does great with the three point contest, but she. 444 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Probably would because she's an incredible athlete. 445 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: But that, you know, I give her the I'll give 446 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: her the benefit of the doubt for one stinking night. 447 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: And also, like I could see I could see this 448 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: being an opportunity for another one of these jealous, awful 449 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: players to take another pot shot exactly Caitlyn Clark, you know. 450 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: And then. 451 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I haven't heard it. 452 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I mean, but but so imagine she 453 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: goes out and she has an off shooting night, like 454 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: to imagine she gets bounced in the first round of 455 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: the three point contests and it just gives Angel Reese 456 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: or one of these other women who are trying to 457 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: make a name for themselves riding the coattails of Caitlyn Clark, 458 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: and it gives them an opportunity to just you know, 459 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: twist the dagger again, you know. And by the way, 460 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: they wouldn't have this stage without her. So it just 461 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: all seems so petty for you know, Frost to be 462 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 3: upset with Caitlyn. 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Clark teammates tonight. How about that. It's just a missed opportunity, 464 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I agree with it. 465 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: Is it is. 466 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's not the end of the world, 467 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: but it is one of the lamest excuses I have 468 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: ever heard in my life. It really, it's not the 469 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: real reason. That's the thing, because she can't say the 470 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: real reason, the real reason why she's not doing it 471 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 2: is something that she's not going to say, which is 472 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: all these jealous hucies who've been hating on me the 473 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: whole year. 474 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: This gives them another reason to do the same thing 475 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: that they're gonna hate on her no matter what. 476 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: That's the one thing I've learned about doing this job 477 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: in sports, matter what happens, people, if I do well, 478 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: if I give you a winning pick, if I do bad, 479 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: I give you a bad pick, I'm gonna get trolled 480 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: no matter what. So Caitlyn's probably like, it doesn't matter 481 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: what I do. If I do it, I'm gonna get trolled. 482 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: If I don't, I'm gonna get trolled. I'm gonna do 483 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: what's best for me, right, and what's best for me is. 484 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: To take the night off. 485 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: It was a selfish decision, but I respect her for 486 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: at least saying that it was. 487 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: I'd respect her if she said, why right, You really 488 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's She's not. You really think it's petty 489 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: reason why no, no, no. 490 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: I just it's not even close to the real reason 491 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: why she didn't do it. 492 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of spoil. I think 493 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 4: there's a little bit of fatigue in there. I do, 494 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: I do she It is a weird like women college 495 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: basketball goes right into the WNB season fight. 496 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: She's off for a month. She's not on the Olympic team. 497 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: She's got plenty of time to rest up. 498 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: Okay, like fifty four to three point shot, you might 499 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: be on the Olympic team pretty soon. 500 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: She might. 501 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: She should be. 502 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: She absolutely should be, but I don't buy it. I 503 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: do buy Nick Kpe though, huh with this this morning? 504 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: Nick Cope? What is going on, buddy? Everything good in 505 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: your world? 506 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 8: Yes, guys, Well, we got a little more than a 507 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 8: month until we're talking about college football on a Saturday. 508 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 9: With you guys, so looking forward to that. 509 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 8: I gotta say, the one person who's probably okay with 510 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 8: Caitlyn Clark skipping in addition to Richard Jared Alicia Gray, 511 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 8: because she became the first player to win both the 512 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 8: WNBA three point and skills competition in the same night. 513 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 8: She made about one hundred and fifty one hundred and 514 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 8: fifteen thousand dollars last night before taxes. Of course, that's 515 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 8: about sixty two percent of her yearly salary. She gets 516 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty five thousand years. 517 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: So for her, I kind of feel like she's the 518 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: guy with the hot dog eating contest with no Joey Chestnut. 519 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened last night. 520 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: But that's the reason why I'm sure Caitlyn didn't do 521 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: it just for you know, just for giggles. 522 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of money on the line 523 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: last night. 524 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: You're saying she's the Birtle Eddie. 525 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: Birdlettil right there. 526 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 527 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 8: All right, guys, you got third round of the Open 528 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 8: Championship going on. The leader is gonna tee off in 529 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 8: the ten am Eastern hour. Shane Lowry leeds at seven under. 530 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 8: He's two shots ahead of a couple of Englishmen, Justin 531 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 8: Rose and Daniel Brown. Scotty Scheffler is looming. He's five 532 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 8: shots back at two under. Number of golfers though posting 533 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 8: low scores today, including Justin Thomas. He is six under 534 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 8: for his round as he plays through the back nine. 535 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 8: He's now two under for the tournament, so getting himself 536 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 8: into the mix. Also South Africa's Thriston Lawrence. He is 537 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 8: also six under today to get to three under. 538 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 9: A couple of late scores. 539 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 8: In baseball from last night, Freddie Freeman hit an eighth 540 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 8: inning grand Slam to push the Dodgers past the Red 541 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 8: Sox four to one. Astro shut out the Mariners three 542 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 8: to nothing. In one month's time, Houston has gone from 543 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 8: ten games back of Seattle in the division. They are 544 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 8: now tied at the top of the Al West. The 545 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 8: Astros and the Mariners. 546 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 9: Guys. Back to you, Thank you, Nick. 547 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports radios, Fox Sports Saturday. And you know, 548 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: I've got too bad options, but I think one is 549 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: better than the other. 550 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: With Tiger Woods. 551 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, we've got the Open Championship going on right now. 552 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: I prefer British Open, but whatever, you know, I'm not 553 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: going to get into that whole thing. But Tiger Woods 554 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: did not make the cut. He is not competing today. 555 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: He was plus fourteen over the first two days and 556 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: this is the third straight major he has missed the 557 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: cut four that's happened for the second time in his career. 558 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: And he mentioned a little bit of what went wrong 559 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: after his round yesterday. 560 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: I like to have played more, but I just wanted 561 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: to make sure that I was able to play the 562 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: major championships this year. 563 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the deal. This is the catch twenty 564 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: two for Tiger Woods. His body is breaking down, so 565 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: he can't play as much golf as he would like 566 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: because he not sure he'd be healthy to get out 567 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: there for the majors. I can totally understand, but I 568 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: think that's his better course of action, is like, play 569 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: as much as you want to and if your body 570 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: betrays you, your body betrays you. Right, Like, he's not 571 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: out there at fifty percent or forty percent, or whatever 572 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: the case may be. I think he's better off playing 573 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: more golf and just hoping his body will be healthy 574 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: enough to get out there. I unders fully understand the 575 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: catch twenty two, but you're seeing it a little bit. 576 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: You saw it with Rory McElroy this last week, right, 577 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: he took a few weeks off after choking in the 578 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: previous Major, and he wasn't sharp. He was plus eleven, 579 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: missed the cut. That's a guy who's much younger, whose 580 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: body is much more intact than Tiger Woods. 581 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna look like this every time if he's not 582 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: playing more golf. 583 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: So I understand he's got a kind of inch his 584 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: way through it and make sure he's healthy enough to 585 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: get out there. But he doesn't want to be this 586 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: version of Tiger. We don't want to see this version 587 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: of Tiger. I think he'd be better off playing more 588 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: golf and just crossing his fingers that his body's healthy 589 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: enough to get out there. 590 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: So Colin Montgomery, who's a Scottish golfer, you know, born 591 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: on the first tea box basically of Royal Truon. He's 592 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: one of those houses that sort of lines, the fairways 593 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: and the and the greens over there. He came out 594 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: and said that Tiger Wood should retire. He said, he 595 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: doesn't understand why he's still hobbling around out there and 596 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: tiger Woods. You know, he fired back on him and said, 597 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: as a pass champion, I'm axempted until I'm sixty. Colin's not. 598 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: He's not a pass champion, so he's not exempt the 599 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: opportunity to make that decision. I do, and I love 600 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: that for Tiger because as a as a what a 601 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: fifteen time major champion, I think Tiger is in the 602 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: driver's seat in terms of what decisions he should or 603 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: shouldn't make with his body or how he should compore 604 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: himself through the remainder of his professionally a golf career, 605 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: whether that's golfing on the PGA Tour, on the Seniors Tour, 606 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: wherever he wants to golfer, however long he wants to golf. 607 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: You know, look, I know this, I still and I 608 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: think a lot of people who were either coming of 609 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: age or were interested in golf in the nineties and 610 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: got to watch tiger Woods dominance through the mid to 611 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 3: late nineties and through the early two thousands and saw 612 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: what a player could do for an entire sport, literally 613 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: lifting an entire sport where you didn't have young people 614 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: interested in golf, you didn't have mass appeal for golfers. 615 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: He completely gentrified the golf community. He took it out 616 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: of this you know, stuffy, unapproachable place that it used 617 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: to be into a very new era and frankly a 618 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: better place than he found it. So well, look, I 619 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: want to see Tiger continue to play. It does turn 620 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: my stomach a little bit when I see him limping 621 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: around a course, you know, like we have in the past. 622 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: I hope that his body gets back to some semblance 623 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: of health, or he can tweak his swing or work 624 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: on his shot shaping so he doesn't have to tax 625 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: himself as much in the tournament he plays. But if 626 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: he's only going to save himself for majors and that's 627 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: the only opportunity we get to see from Tiger until 628 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: he is sixty, should he want to be exempted until 629 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: he's sixty and play until he's sixty? Okay, I'm fine 630 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: with it because I'm so appreciative of what he did 631 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: for the world of golf and what he's meant to 632 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: me as an athlete, because that guy has been an 633 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: inspiration for me. And I'm sure countless people out there 634 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: who pursued sports or frankly, pursued anything, and we're just 635 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: looking for a good example of what it looks like 636 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: to have some discipline and make necessary sacrifice for something 637 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: that they really want to be great at. 638 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: Rich I'm one of those people that grew up with Tiger, 639 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: and the reason that I'm really into golf is because 640 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: of Tiger. 641 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I was ten years old in ninety six. That's when 642 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I started playing golf. 643 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: My grandfather, who was a golfer for his whole life, 644 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 4: bought me my first set of clubs when I was eight, 645 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: and I. 646 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Started getting into the game. 647 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: But it really accelerated when I started watching Tiger ninety 648 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 4: six Masters, and of course, you know, you know the 649 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: rest of the history story. It was pretty much every 650 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: major from there on out of my childhood was dominated 651 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 4: by one man. 652 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Well father times undefeated. 653 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily like agree with Kalamunk like it 654 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: is Tiger's decision when he wants to drop out. But 655 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: let's just look at the stats here. I mean, he 656 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: was a combined forty four over par in the majors 657 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: this year. He barely made the cut at the Masters, 658 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: missed the cut in the other three. 659 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't like. 660 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: Comparing sports to politics because there's not much crossover between 661 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: sports and politics. 662 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: In fact, there's really hardly any. But this is very. 663 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: Similar to the current situation we're dealing with with Joe 664 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: Biden president. 665 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Like he can't win, he can't compete. 666 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: He wants to go out there and play. I want 667 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: to see him, but it's tough to see him like this. 668 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: It is as someone who grew up watching him play, 669 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: grew up loving him, it's hard to see him like this. 670 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, it kind of turns your gut a 671 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: little bit on the inside to watch him limp around 672 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: and have no chance, like no chance. 673 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: To even compete none with the guys that. 674 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: Are playing at the highest level of golf, and right, 675 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: it's tough. 676 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: It is tough to watch. Yeah, Well, that's the thing, 677 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: man is. 678 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: He looks so bad, mostly because he isn't playing enough golf, 679 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: and I get why not. He doesn't want his body 680 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: to betray him, so he's trying to remain as healthy 681 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: as possible so he can get out there. 682 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: But while he's out there, he's just not sharp. I 683 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: think he'd be. 684 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: Better off playing more golf leading up to the majors. 685 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: And if his body goes sideways, so bad be it. 686 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: But if his. 687 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Body responds, he's a sharper version. I think he can 688 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: still be better than what we're seeing. It's just he's 689 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: not practicing as much leading up to these majors. 690 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: It might be mental. 691 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 4: I get mentally he's like, I can't do this because 692 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: then I'm gonna fail. Like it could be a mental thing. 693 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: Now where he's really overcome his body, I totally believe him. 694 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: Where's he's just trying to baby his body. And I 695 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: don't mean that as a diss at all. But the 696 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: downside to that is he's not even close to sharp 697 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: because he's just not practicing nearly as much. 698 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: Look at Rory. 699 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: Rory was plus eleven. He was the last couple of 700 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: tournaments right, and it showed. It absolutely showed. I'll say 701 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: this real fast, where I love that Tiger isn't worried 702 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: about what we think. I love that about him. I 703 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: truly do, because there are so many athletes that are like, what. 704 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Are people gonna think? What about my legacy? 705 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: Like, Lebron is a guy, and there are a lot 706 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: of parts I love about Lebron, but the one thing 707 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: that I hate the most is he cares way too 708 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: much about what other people think. Right, JJ Reddick has 709 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: hired as Lakers head coach. Immediately there's a story out 710 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: Lebron had nothing to do with this. Like Lebron cares 711 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: way too much about what we think. Tiger doesn't care 712 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: at all. Tiger's like, I want to play golf. I'm 713 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: gonna play golf if I go out there and stink. 714 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: I don't want that, But your opinions and your reaction 715 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: isn't gonna prevent me from doing what I want to do. 716 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. 717 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: I just wish that he could play a little bit 718 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: more before these tournaments, these majors, so we see a 719 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: sharper version of Tiger. That's what I would like to see. 720 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: But I get it, it's a catch twenty two. I 721 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: just think the lesser of two evils is playing more 722 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: so he can look better once he gets out there. 723 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: But rough situation, no matter what. 724 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: All right, we've got rich oron Berger, Penn State All American, 725 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst, I'm Brian Noll coming up next. Ooh, 726 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: the Parley platter. Huh boy, I hear there's an interesting 727 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: theme for the platter today. 728 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: We'll find out next. 729 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 730 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 731 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up. 732 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to 733 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 734 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow rate and 735 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 736 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll see the show posted right 737 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: after we get off the air. 738 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: Are we got some business to take care of? 739 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: Let's do this. 740 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 6: Check this out with our late letter. 741 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: Okay, mister Jared Smith, you've been hard at work. What 742 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: do you have for us today? 743 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: Well, I have a choice for you. I sent a. 744 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: Draft of the Parlay platter to the group chat last night. 745 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: It's aggressive, it's aggressive. It's also a long time horizon. 746 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 4: So do you want me to give you that now? 747 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 4: Or do you want me to give you something that's 748 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: today and a little more conservative? I want both. I 749 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: want conservative. I went radical, That's what I Brian this 750 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 4: is why we vibe. 751 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: My friend. All right, I'll give you the conservative first. 752 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: It's just a. 753 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: Little, just a little baby, three team money line parlay 754 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: in baseball today because, let's be honest, besides the baseball world, 755 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 4: there just isn't a whole lot going on, and it 756 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: sticks to a familiar themes. It's backing a couple of 757 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 4: teams who lost last night that were favorites that should 758 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: have won, and then I think we'll win tonight. And 759 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 4: it's also backing a pitcher that I think is a 760 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 4: little bit undervalued in the second half. We'll start with 761 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 4: the two teams that lost last night. 762 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: His favorites. 763 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 4: The Phillies lost the Pirates last night, crazy game back 764 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 4: at Forth, six runs in the first inning, wild stuff, 765 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 4: Pirates end up winning it late. I think Billy bounces 766 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 4: back today. Christopher Sanchez on the mound against Luis Ortiz. 767 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 4: They're about a minus one sixty favorite. We'll put that 768 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: with the Giants on the money line, who had to 769 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: lead last night at cors Field, and then the cors 770 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: Field vibes happened. Colorado had a huge I think they 771 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 4: had like five runs in the seventh or eighth inning, 772 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 4: came back to win it late. Giants today, Logan Webb 773 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: on the mound against Kyle Freeland. We'll take the Giants 774 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: to bounce back. We'll throw them in the money line 775 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: parlay two and then the final game. These two teams 776 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: didn't play yesterday. I don't know why they didn't play yesterday. 777 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: But the Twins and the Brewers start a series today. 778 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: I'll take the Twins on the money line over the Brewers. 779 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 4: Pablo Lopez what a really weird first half. Numbers are 780 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 4: all over the map. I think he has some positive 781 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 4: aggression to for him in the second half, where I 782 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: think the Brewers kind. 783 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: Of negatively regress. We'll put the Twins in the parlay 784 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: as well. 785 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: Giants, Twins, Phillies on the money line plus three sixty 786 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: seven conservative. 787 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: Simple, you'll know if. 788 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: You win today. 789 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 4: All right, now, let's get weird. I am very interested 790 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: in Carlos Alcarez to win the Olympic men's tennis title. 791 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 4: This tournament starts. The Olympics starts next week. The men's 792 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 4: tennis competition starts next Saturday. Next Saturday. You have to 793 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 4: get this bet in by you got a whole week. 794 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna start before or after 795 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: our show next Saturday because the time difference. So I 796 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 4: wanted to give it to you now, Carlos Alcarez plus 797 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 4: money to win the Men's Olympic Tennis Championship, So you'll 798 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 4: know about that in the next couple weeks. Right now, 799 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 4: let's go big picture. We're gonna do a futures parlay. 800 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: We don't do this very often, but man, this is 801 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 4: looking juicy. So we're gonna put Carlos Aucaaz Post one 802 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: seventy in there. We're gonna put the Phillies in there 803 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 4: to win the World Series. 804 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: Why, I don't know. 805 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm just getting vibes that the Phillies, after getting really 806 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 4: close the last couple of years, almost getting over the hump. 807 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: I think they get over the hump this year. 808 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: I like their rotation. 809 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit better than the Dodgers 810 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: in the National League. 811 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 4: So I'll put the Phillies to win the World Series. 812 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: It's about four to one in there. And here's the 813 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 4: crazy one, guys. The New York jetsh to win the 814 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 4: Super Bowl at seventeen to one if you put all 815 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: three of these ridiculous legs. Actually, the Olcaaz thinks, not 816 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 4: that ridiculous. You put all three of these in there. 817 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 4: This parlay pays out two twenty five to one. I'm 818 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 4: putting five hundred bucks on this thing. When it wins 819 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 4: in February, I'll see you guys at the window. It's 820 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: cashing out one hundred grand. 821 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: See you later. Oh w And off the Barbados you go. 822 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: Huh Triangle. That's where the Rogers regime will take me. 823 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy enough to hit. 824 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: It's funny that the Jets at seventeen to one to 825 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. 826 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's a long shot. And then there are 827 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: two other biggest you know what I mean. We're gonna 828 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: have fun with this one. A long shots have happened 829 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: like this before I come it up. Next, the One 830 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: to Be Goat is ranked ahead of the Goat. 831 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah ah, yes, good morning, Happy Saturday to you. So 832 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: I spent approximately three minutes on ESPN's Top one hundred list. 833 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: I was bombarded with text alerts, you know, and I'm like, 834 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: oh gosh, who cares? Who cares about this list? I 835 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 2: finally thumbed through it and I'm like, yeah, all right, 836 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: it's July. Yeah, who cares. It's a top one hundred 837 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: athletes since two thousand, Okay, But there was one thing 838 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: that caught my attention. 839 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: I was just looking through this and I saw. 840 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: It number four Lebron James at number five Tom Brady, 841 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: and I said, what. 842 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: Come again? 843 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: And I just thought, for a second, I'm like, it's 844 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: pretty interesting, you know, because we've spent how many years 845 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: comparing Jordan to Lebron back and forth. We haven't spent 846 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: hardly any time comparing Tom Brady to Lebron, right, yeah, 847 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to start a movement here, But 848 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: for a few minutes I thought it was pretty interesting 849 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: because I thought about this the tale of the tape. 850 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 2: If you look at it, I mean, both guys check 851 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: a lot of boxes. If you're looking at longevity, check 852 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: and check. If you're looking at rewriting the record books, 853 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 2: check and check for Brady and Lebron respectively. To me, 854 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: where the tail of the tape greatly favors Tom Brady, 855 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: it's the rings category. 856 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: And you can't overlook that. 857 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna deduct points from Lebron for losing two 858 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: stacked Warriors teams, you know, adding KD to a seventy 859 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: three win team. I'm not deducting points for that, but 860 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look closer at losing to the MAVs the 861 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: first year with Miami, where he's playing hot potato with 862 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 2: the basketball, looking like a shell of himself against JJ Burrea. 863 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: What the hell was that? 864 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: And then in fourteen when the Spurs smacked him in 865 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: five games, that's when he still had Chris bosh d Wade. 866 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm deducting points for that, A little bit of a 867 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: you got lucky with Ray Allen bailing you out like 868 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: you can't be four and six in the finals, and 869 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: me put you ahead of Tom Brady every ring seven 870 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 2: of them for Brady, thumb prints are all over him. 871 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: The losses in the Super Bowl all close, three four points, 872 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: the one eight point loss he threw four five hundred 873 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: five yards and three touchdowns. I'm just not putting Lebron 874 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: James over Tom Brady. And this isn't a pure athleticism thing. 875 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: Because Lewis Hamilton, a race car driver, was ranked ahead 876 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: of Aaron Donald were of the most physically imposing athletes 877 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: of all times. It's not an athleticism thing to me, 878 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: and it's accomplishment thing. And with Brady going to Tampa 879 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: and Presto a team that hadn't been to the playoffs 880 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: in twelve years winning a Super Bowl the first year 881 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 2: I got Brady ahead of Lebron. What do you guys 882 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: say as far as this goes. 883 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, there's no question. Look, I know I'm biased 884 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 3: because I was a Tom Brady teammate at one point 885 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: in my playing career. I never I never played basketball. 886 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 3: I've never shared a court with Lebron. I can't tell 887 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: you about the impact he has on a team or 888 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 3: how great it is to have him on the court 889 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: with you when you're playing in a game. But I 890 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 3: can tell you about what that feeling is like when 891 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 3: you're out there with Tom Brady and you feel like 892 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: you can win every single game. You feel like you're 893 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: the baddest dog on the There's nobody who has a 894 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 3: better quarterback. You know it, they know it. And I 895 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: mean when you start even comparing from an outsider's perspective, subjectively, 896 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: you know who's more clutch. You know who would you 897 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 3: rather have the ball at the end of the game 898 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: with everything on the line, Tom Brady or Lebron James. 899 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: I mean, how many times have we seen Tom Brady 900 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: come up with the play needed, how many times have 901 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 3: we seen Lebron pass? And by the way, that sounds 902 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 3: like so critical and it is, and it's silly for 903 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: me to even compare across sports and things like that, 904 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 3: but I guess that's what this list is forcing us 905 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: to do. Anyways. But the reality of the situation is 906 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 3: this doesn't even make sense to my brain. Lebron He's 907 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 3: not in the same category yet as Tom Brady. Yeah, 908 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 3: I guess you could make an argument that I would hear, 909 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 3: but I would hear the argument and that'd be like, oh, Okay, 910 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 3: you're wrong, and then people move on because it's just dumb. 911 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 3: If anything, I think this has more to do with 912 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: Tom Brady being a Fox broadcaster and ESPN list than 913 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: this has anything to do with whether or not Lebron's 914 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 3: greater than Tom Brady. 915 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 4: This feels petty and jealous propaganda. By the way, just 916 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 4: one correction, Rix, you haven't played on a basketball floor 917 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 4: with Lebron James yet, Thank you Fox Sports Radio charity 918 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: game you never know, you never. 919 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: Know, could happen, could happen to you, Bud. Yeah, I mean, 920 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, what are you doing here. Lebron in 921 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: front of Brady is just I don't even really have 922 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: to defend it there. 923 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: It's hard to do this, and I agree, like this 924 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 4: is silly. It is silly. It's apples to oranges. It's 925 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 4: really like it's apples to like peaches. Frankly, it's not 926 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: even oranges because these guys play different sports. And then 927 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 4: Brian you netted, I didn't even think about that, like 928 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: the Lewis Hamilton Aaron Donald thing, Like, think about all 929 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 4: the guys that are behind Lewis Hamilton and on this 930 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 4: list that could just run circles around this guy. But 931 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 4: it's an accomplishment thing. And I think if you included 932 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 4: Lebron's accomplishments off the floor, business, entertainment, et cetera, then 933 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 4: you could start to make a case, because I do 934 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 4: think he's a little bit more out there in that world, 935 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 4: even though Tom just had like a roast on Netflix, 936 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 4: which is like one of the greatest things I've ever 937 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: seen in my life. But but he's not like a 938 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: star in movies like Lebron is. He doesn't have all 939 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 4: these like media companies that he's trying to do stuff with, 940 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 4: So it's just it's it's a different it's it's a 941 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: different comparison. If we're talking about straight sports accomplishments, there's 942 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 4: not even a debate that Tom should be in front 943 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 4: of like Lebron. Like I don't even want to listen 944 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 4: to it. I don't even want to listen to it. 945 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: The only thing I hate about this is that when 946 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 2: we talk about Lebron, I don't think he was better 947 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: than Jordan. I don't think Lebron was better than Tom Brady. 948 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: But it's like, do you realize how many athletes Lebron 949 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 2: has been better than throughout the course of his career, 950 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, that's the only thing 951 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: I dislike when we talk about Lebron. 952 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: It's like we're talking about j R. Smith or something 953 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 4: like that, you know what I mean, Like, oh my gosh, 954 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,479 Speaker 4: not even remotely, you know, And it's like, okay, fine, 955 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 4: but we're talking about. 956 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: Jordan and Brady, you know what I mean, Like there's 957 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: no crime in not having a better body of work 958 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: than those guys. I just think that he has had 959 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing run, and I hate that what we 960 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: spend our time on is he's not better than insert 961 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: the blank. And it's like two dudes, you. 962 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, like. 963 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: Force us to go against wanting to pit against one another. 964 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: Right, But that's the thing I would like to just 965 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 2: drive home is No, I don't think he has a 966 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 2: better body of work than Tom Brady, but that's not 967 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: a crime. 968 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: And I don't want that. 969 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: To sound like he's being reduced to some like role 970 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: player getting nineteen minutes off the bench or something like that. 971 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: He's been amazing, but just not more amazing than Jordan 972 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: and Brady. 973 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 3: That's all I think. You know, we get into the 974 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 3: habit when we're trying to defend our side of the argument. 975 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 3: Or I shouldn't say we in particular because I feel 976 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 3: like this is fairly measured, but in general, when I 977 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: hear the greatest of all time debates start to happen, 978 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: what ends up happening immediately is one side tries to 979 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 3: diminish the other side because the opposing position wants to win. 980 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 3: And you know what, look, in the spirit of sport, 981 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: it makes sense. In the spirit of debate, certainly, it 982 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 3: makes sense. One of the strongest arguments you could pose 983 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 3: is the strongest reason to disagree with your opponent's argument, right, 984 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 3: so you start to poke holes into some of the 985 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 3: reasons why maybe Lebron isn't that great. WHOA, no, no, no, no, 986 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 3: Lebron is great. Like Lebron is objectively great at basketball, 987 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 3: and if you compare him to any other athlete or 988 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 3: sports figure on the planet, he is still objectively great. 989 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,919 Speaker 3: But what you just said rings true with me. He's 990 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 3: just not as great as Tom Brady. And that is 991 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: to fall short of being as great as Tom Brady 992 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 3: at literally anything is kind of okay, because Tom Brady 993 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 3: might be better at football than anybody's ever been good 994 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: at anything. Like I mean, if you really think about 995 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 3: what he accomplished. I know, we talk about the Super 996 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 3: Bowl championships, and that is impressive in its own right, 997 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 3: But how about the amount of AFC or I should say, 998 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 3: how about the amount of conference championship games he just 999 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: participated in. It like to just have a chance to 1000 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: take a bu the apple and be one of the 1001 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: final two teams standing at the end of the season, 1002 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 3: year after year after year. It just didn't make sense. 1003 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 3: His winning percentage was bonkers, his clutch play in close 1004 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 3: games was insane. He was the greatest of all time 1005 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 3: in my opinion, in any sport and maybe in any endeavor. 1006 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: We've sent somebody to the moon, and I'm not one 1007 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 3: hundred percent sure I think that's as much of an 1008 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 3: accomplishment as what Tom Brady was able to accomplish on 1009 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 3: here on planet Earth, because it's it's a feat we 1010 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 3: will never see replicated by anyone ever, and that includes 1011 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 3: somebody who I view as maybe more talented than Tom 1012 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 3: Brady in Patrick Mahomes. I just don't see how you 1013 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: could possibly have the durability and the ability to withstand 1014 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 3: the rigors of time and keep that level of play 1015 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 3: to that to that level for as long as he did. 1016 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 4: I can't wait till we're doing the show in twenty 1017 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 4: years and start having the Mahomes Brady debate. Just wait, 1018 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 4: just wait. I just hope we're still again doing the show. 1019 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 4: Is for that long that we can still have that debate. 1020 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 1: I'll still be hating on something or something. 1021 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes's son, I'll come in and you know, take 1022 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 4: the whole league by storm, unlike the Bronnie James thing. Right, 1023 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 4: But the point you were making Rich, it's because we 1024 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 4: just we live in such like a society that's divisive, 1025 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 4: Like if we're for something, it means we're automatically against 1026 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 4: something else, Whereas I wish we could live in a 1027 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 4: more gray area with some things, with some issues, right, 1028 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 4: this is one of them. 1029 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: And Yeah, Like, just because. 1030 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 4: We're saying Lebron James doesn't have more accomplishments than Tom 1031 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 4: Brady doesn't mean we're poop pooing anything Lebron James has done. 1032 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: It's just you're. 1033 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 4: Comparing it to something that is above any other comparison. 1034 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,439 Speaker 4: Here's the better question or maybe another question. And I've 1035 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 4: heard a lot of bally who about this list. I 1036 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 4: didn't really give too much attention to it until I 1037 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: saw it was going to be in our show, and 1038 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 4: then I kind of started looking at it. The top 1039 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 4: three who are in front of Lebron, Yeah, and Brady 1040 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm okay with, Like I'm okay with Phelps and Serena 1041 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 4: being in front of those guys. Lionel Messi, I think 1042 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 4: there's a debate because he also plays a team sport 1043 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 4: and he frankly did not have as much team success at. 1044 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: The highest level as Lebron and Tom. 1045 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 4: Did you know, just the one World Cup and he's 1046 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 4: fallen short in the others they did just win the 1047 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 4: COPA recently. But I am perfectly fine because of the 1048 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 4: individual nature of swimming in tennis to put Serena and 1049 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 4: Phelps in front of the other, you know, Lebron and Tom. 1050 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: And how do you guys feel about that? To me, 1051 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 2: I start to have a global it outage. Okay, you 1052 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 2: know my personal one. Right when I could do football 1053 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 2: in basketball, but as soon as we're doing like swimming 1054 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: and tennis and. 1055 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: Socc or, I'm like, it's like another universe, you know. 1056 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: I start to malfunction when it comes to something like reset, 1057 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: you put you in right, you reset your modem. 1058 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully that help. 1059 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more like that, Like people are smarter comparing 1060 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: across all sports than me. I start football, basketball, but man, 1061 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 2: when you get to swimming and I get it on 1062 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 2: the world stage and going up against the best and 1063 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 2: the way Michael Phelps dominated that, I totally understand that. 1064 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: But me, just personally, my brain starts to malfunction when 1065 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: you start like that. 1066 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 3: I I think that's a really really good point. And 1067 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty close to Brian on this, like 1068 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 3: where I kind of want to bow out. The only 1069 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 3: thing I'll offer is having competed in team sports at 1070 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 3: a high level. I can tell you one of the 1071 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 3: things that you almost wish when you're part of the team, 1072 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 3: or part of any team, is that you could control everything, 1073 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 3: and you can't. Like Michael Phelps, at a certain point, 1074 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: is just competing against the water likes how little yeah, like, 1075 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, how little drag can I create versus how 1076 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 3: much force I can create? Like at a certain point, 1077 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 3: it's just a physics equation because nobody can touch you 1078 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 3: any longer. It's just a matter of how much faster 1079 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 3: you can be than the last time you did it, 1080 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 3: you know, Serena. Obviously you're playing against an opponent who's 1081 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 3: returning serve and volley and all that, so that's a 1082 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 3: little bit different. But in a team sport to have 1083 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 3: the level of success that Tom Brady did across so 1084 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 3: many different iterations. Also, remember like, it wasn't like he 1085 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 3: was playing with Randy Moss the whole time. It wasn't 1086 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 3: like he was playing with you know, you know, I mean, 1087 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 3: like like the faces change, Wes Welker, you know what 1088 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean. It wasn't always Julian Edelman, it wasn't always 1089 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 3: Danny Montal. I mean you can list, you know, it 1090 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 3: wasn't always Troy Brown. You know, you can list the 1091 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 3: variety of different faces who he turned into to Hall 1092 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: of famers. It wasn't always Gronk, you know. And you think, well, 1093 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 3: the one common denominator was Tom Brady, and so to 1094 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 3: be able to not only compete at that level but 1095 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 3: also lend the leadership necessary to have that sort of 1096 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 3: sustained success in a team sport. Even though what Phelps 1097 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 3: did was equally, if not more impressive in his individualized sport, 1098 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 3: I would still give the moniker of the greatest athlete, 1099 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 3: greatest participant of any sport at all time to Tom 1100 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 3: Brady because there are so many more variables that he 1101 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 3: had to be determinably better than everybody else to have 1102 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 3: the level of sustained success he had. 1103 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the thing you don't have, Michael Phelps never 1104 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: had like a weak slot receiver or left guard, you. 1105 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 1106 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: It's individualizer, Yeah, but you have to compensate a lot 1107 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: of times in team sports, no doubt about that. Real fast. 1108 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: Chris per Fet all right, technical producer. I don't know 1109 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 2: if it's a dissertation on soccer or swimming I'm not 1110 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: sure what no. 1111 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 10: Well, I do like Phelps a lot, but I do 1112 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 10: need to take umbrage with Jared just counting like the 1113 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 10: international stuff for Lionel Messi. First off, it's it's World 1114 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 10: Cups once every four years. Euro Championship which I mean 1115 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 10: a Copa America which Messi has now won twice, is 1116 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 10: up there as well. But also do not ignore the 1117 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 10: fact that Lionel Messi's teams have won twelve domestic titles 1118 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 10: and four times UEFA Champions League. 1119 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 9: So just throw those in there. 1120 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 10: There's an entire wonderful sight out there about Messi versus Ronaldo. 1121 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 10: This is it's funny because like the Messi thing is 1122 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 10: just a thorny subject because you will also get the 1123 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 10: Ronaldo fans in here yelling that he's actually better, but Messi. 1124 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: Is the best soccer player. 1125 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 4: I just think soccers is it's a really tough to 1126 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 4: grade because of all the weird competitions. 1127 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 10: I don't think it's tough to raid, it's just we 1128 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 10: just we hear a lot of people here at Erica 1129 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 10: don't know how to grade it because they don't want 1130 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 10: to grapple with the different competitions league these guys play 1131 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 10: ten months out of the year. 1132 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. 1133 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 4: I don't think the league is the toughest league though 1134 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 4: it's not the Premier League. 1135 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 10: There was a time before the Premier League became as 1136 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 10: big as it was where Leaga was in the tough 1137 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 10: and it also yeah, but he was also in the 1138 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 10: two thousands that the earlier two thousands the Premier League 1139 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 10: was not what it was. And you know, again we 1140 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 10: also have to factor in again Champions League where you're 1141 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 10: playing the best of every league in Europe and he's 1142 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 10: won it four times. 1143 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: All right, we got it. 1144 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: Top ten lists or top one hundred lists, you know, 1145 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 2: just making people hate people. 1146 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, these listened the devils. Never do them again. Please. 1147 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: Eventually it evolves into you know, I always thought I 1148 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: hated you, and now it's right there and I love you. 1149 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: All right. We got Rich Arnberger. 1150 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 2: Penn State All America Can Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. 1151 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,959 Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next. Who's better than who? 1152 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: And who's worse than who? We'll compare notes. It's Fox 1153 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is 1154 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 1155 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: Who's up for another list. 1156 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: Huh oh, anybody in the market for another list. So 1157 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: this came out recently. It's on ESPN Jeremy Fowler. He 1158 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 2: talked to exacts, coaches and scouts around the league. They 1159 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 2: came up with their top ten list. So everybody ranked 1160 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: their top ten quarterbacks and then there was a point 1161 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 2: system based on the rankings, and so they compiled everything. 1162 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: About eighty people voted on this thing. 1163 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 2: You just tell me, we don't have to go like 1164 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 2: magnifying glass level here, But tell me what your biggest 1165 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 2: disagreement is with this top ten list. Okay, one individual quarterback. 1166 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: It goes one Mahomes, two Burrow, three Josh Allen for Lamar, 1167 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 2: five Stafford, and then it goes six through ten. Herbert Stroud, 1168 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Gough Dak. It's your biggest beef there, Rich. 1169 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 3: Biggest beef, I would say, is Rogers being so low 1170 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 3: eight feels. I mean, look, Herbert, no offense to Justin Herbert. 1171 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 3: I think he has the potential to be something incredible. 1172 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 3: But Aaron Rodgers has the actual experience being incredible at football. 1173 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 3: He's coming off an achilles. I understand he's forty, and 1174 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 3: so there's gonna be people who don't think he's gonna 1175 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 3: have the goods. Also, I'll also say this, like Goff, 1176 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 3: like number eight and nine should be in front of 1177 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 3: number six and seven. Jared Goff, what he's done since 1178 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: he's moved on to Detroit is nothing short of a 1179 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: miracle if you've been following Detroit sports for the past, 1180 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,439 Speaker 3: I don't know, forever. So yeah, those are my two 1181 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 3: major dis agreements here. You're ready for my first real 1182 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 3: hot take of the NFL season. 1183 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, what do you got? Jared Gobs winning the MVP. Wow. 1184 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 4: So he's gonna be a lot higher on this list 1185 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 4: after this year. No, we can get into that during 1186 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 4: our first back to the. 1187 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Future segment which is coming soon. But I agree with 1188 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Rich here. I think Rogers needs to be higher. 1189 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 4: Now you'll make the argument that it's maybe projecting to 1190 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 4: the future a little bit here. If that's the case, 1191 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 4: then Stafford should be lower. You know, like, if you 1192 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 4: can't have it both ways. You can't have c. J. 1193 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 4: Stroud and Justin Herbert ahead of Aaron Rodgers if you're 1194 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 4: projecting to the future and keep Matthew Stafford in front 1195 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 4: of those guys. 1196 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: You just can't because if it's. 1197 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 4: A future thing, then yeah, okay, then you bump up 1198 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 4: Herbert and Stafford and you downgrade Rogers, or you bump 1199 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 4: up Herbert and Stroud and you downgrade Rogers and Stafford. 1200 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 4: But you can't have it both ways. It's like we're 1201 01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 4: kind of straddling the line here that middle four. Like, 1202 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 4: I'm fine with the top four. You want to make 1203 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 4: a case that Josh Allen is ahead of Burrow because 1204 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 4: of physical tools, maybe. 1205 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: They're injury to Burrow. 1206 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 4: I can hear that argument, but I'm fine with putting 1207 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 4: Burrow second. He's the only guy that's beaten Mahomes in 1208 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 4: a big championship game on the road, So I'm fine 1209 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 4: with putting Burrow second. I think it's that it's that Herbert, Stroud, Rogers, Stafford, 1210 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 4: you know, youth versus future projection. Like where are we 1211 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 4: at here with those two categories? And that's where I 1212 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 4: think those middle four there, five through eight basically are 1213 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 4: kind of misaligned. 1214 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would flip flop Lamar and Rogers. I don't 1215 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 2: have Lamar in the top five. I have him eighth overall, 1216 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 2: I still have Rogers in the top five. He's one 1217 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 2: of the best passers we've ever seen in NFL history, 1218 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not freaked out about the Achilles. I still 1219 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a ridiculous passer, and if he's upright, 1220 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 2: which I think he will be, I think he's gonna 1221 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 2: do significant damage this season. The thing with Lamar, I've 1222 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 2: told you guys this, I just think he's the most 1223 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 2: overrated player in the league. That's not to say he 1224 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 2: can't play. He's immensely talented. He's a two time MVP. 1225 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't have him as it does. He's just not 1226 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 2: a precise passer. He's got one more playoff win than CJ. Stroud, 1227 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 2: who was a rookie last year, you know what I mean. Like, 1228 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 2: he's two and four in the playoffs. That's not good enough. 1229 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: He's got as many MVPs as he does playoff wins, Like, 1230 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 2: at some point we gotta have more come playoff time. 1231 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 2: And I don't need him to be prototypical. He's got 1232 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 2: his own style. That's cool, that's fine. It's just gotta 1233 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: be something that pays dividends come playoff time. 1234 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: And it hasn't. And that's my beef with Lamar is. 1235 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 2: I love the athleticism, but the playoffs, they show you 1236 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: like what your deficiencies are, and if your deficiencies are 1237 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 2: just not a precise passer, it's like. 1238 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Whoa red flag made your red flag. 1239 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: I can't have a guy in the top five where 1240 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 2: that's his deficiency. 1241 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Also, you know, look at there, 1242 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 3: there's an argument to be made by the fact that 1243 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott being the tenth overall instead of it being 1244 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 3: like a Kirk Cousins. You know, I realize he's playing 1245 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 3: with a completely different team. You know, I guess you 1246 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 3: could make an argument, but it's not going to be 1247 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 3: nearly as loud of an argument as the middle of 1248 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: the pack guys here in the top ten. You know, 1249 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 3: I agree with you about Lamar to a greater or 1250 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 3: lesser extent. But really it's like, as long as Mahomes 1251 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 3: is number one overall, agree and then those and then 1252 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Burrow allan Lamar are somewhere two, three, four, no argument here. 1253 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 3: Number five. Obviously, Stafford to me should be lower on 1254 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,959 Speaker 3: this list. Based on what I just said, I could 1255 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 3: see easily Aaron Rodgers being there. I could see I 1256 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 3: could see even Jared Goff being ahead of Stafford on 1257 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 3: this list. You know, I could I could see Stafford 1258 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 3: as low as seven. You know, if we're going to 1259 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 3: consider experience and really speaking about like this upcoming season 1260 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 3: in a vacuum. You know, like you said, Brian, if 1261 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 3: we're projecting to the future, maybe it was you, Jared. 1262 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 3: If we're projecting to the future. You can't have it 1263 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: both ways, you know, you really can't. So it's I 1264 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 3: understand this is a combination of different opinions meshing into 1265 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 3: one list, but it's, uh, I don't know, I it's 1266 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 3: it's it's just that it's all these lists are gonna 1267 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: be disagreeable depending on what angle you're attacking it from. 1268 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: You know what this is? Do you guys like Chipotle 1269 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: and your fan of Chipotle? 1270 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1271 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Really? 1272 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 4: Okay, fran Well, just for the day, imagine you are 1273 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 4: a fan of Chipole. 1274 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Although that that actually is par. 1275 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 3: For the course based off of the cop You know 1276 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 3: what I just realized though, Like, I mean, I appreciate 1277 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 3: Brian's honestly, I was being honest you like, it didn't 1278 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 3: matter honestly what restaurant you mentioned. If you win, are 1279 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 3: you a fan of I would have been like, yeah. 1280 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 1: She is Apples, Like I don't know. Insert whatever restaurant 1281 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: plenty that I love. You picked one that I don't. Yeah, 1282 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: that's your fault here. 1283 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 4: Whatever that restaurant we went to in Cincinnati the night 1284 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 4: before we did the show at the Reds Ballpark. Whatever 1285 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 4: that restorrating. We go to the restaurant, We open up 1286 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 4: the menu. There's a lot of different things on the menu. 1287 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 4: We like one thing, we like another. Here is the 1288 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 4: one thing we all agree on. As long as Mahomes 1289 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 4: is one on the list, I'm fine with everything else. 1290 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 4: If you like your chicken burrito and I want my 1291 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 4: steak burrito, it's fine as long as we're in the 1292 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 4: same zip code with the number one guy. I will 1293 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 4: listen to the other arguments. But Mahomes at one is 1294 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 4: there is no argument to be made. And I've heard 1295 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll call them credible, but I have 1296 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 4: heard arguments made for him not being one, and every 1297 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 4: time I'm like, I'm not even gonna listen to you. 1298 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 4: Pass the first line, because if you're not putting Mahomes one, 1299 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 4: there's nothing else that I can even consider. 1300 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Right, especially the timing of it. 1301 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: He just won back to back Super Bowls, He's got 1302 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 2: three rings already. 1303 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm talking about. And there's people 1304 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: that aren't putt him one run. I know, it's just ridiculous, insane. 1305 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: I will say real fast though, Golf over Stafford. 1306 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Come on, let's get real for a second. 1307 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 3: Good lord, I mean I could see, Hey, he might. 1308 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 3: He might. 1309 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's a dud, but he needs a 1310 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 2: lot more around him than Stafford needs around him. Stafford 1311 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: is on another level talent wise than Golf is and 1312 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 2: Golf listen, he's a good quarterback you just have to have. 1313 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 2: He's a lot like Tua. Really, you have to have 1314 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 2: a good offensive line, good. 1315 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Running games line. I think right now, I think so too. 1316 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: And that's the thing where if you put Golf on 1317 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 2: those lesser Lion teams where Stafford was putting up numbers, 1318 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 2: not putting that is. 1319 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at and at twenty twenty four in 1320 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 3: a vacuum though, you know, and we're looking at you know, 1321 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 3: Apple Staples Rams roster to Detroit roster. Granted, if you 1322 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 3: flip flop Stafford and Golf, I think the Detroit Lions 1323 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 3: are a better team because I think Stafford's a better quarterback. 1324 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 3: I agree with what you're saying, but I might be 1325 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,919 Speaker 3: interpreting the question differently, like are we talking about the 1326 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 3: best quarterback in twenty twenty four? The most successful? You know, 1327 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I mean where, where's the line where we're arguing, Yeah, 1328 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 3: that's that's where. Because I could see Golf being more successful, 1329 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 3: having a more successful campaign with the Detroit Lions this 1330 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 3: year than Stafford with the Rams. And that's the reason 1331 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 3: why I could see him being higher than Stafford. 1332 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 4: You know, we're getting in the weeds, but Gof's a 1333 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 4: better fit for Ben Johnson's offense. 1334 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 3: That's it. 1335 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 4: There you go that what I think is really the 1336 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 4: end of the of the conversation here With that, I honor, right, 1337 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 4: I look at it where and to your point, Rich, 1338 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 4: we could look at it so many different ways. 1339 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. 1340 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 2: We're picking teams, ya know what I mean. We're picking 1341 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 2: all right, you got the first pick, You're going Mahomes. 1342 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 2: I got the second pick. I'm going, yeah, Like, you're. 1343 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Not nicking yea if it's just. 1344 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 4: But as long as you take Mahomes first, that's really 1345 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 4: the only thing that matters here. 1346 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's amazing. 1347 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna flip it around do a one eighty 1348 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 2: first though Nick Cope with the latest. 1349 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 1: What is going on? 1350 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 3: Nick? 1351 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 8: All right, guys, we're tracking the third round of the 1352 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 8: Open Championship. The rain has begun falling in the last 1353 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 8: thirty minutes at Royal Troon leaders teeing off here in 1354 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 8: this ten am Eastern hour. Shane Lowry leeds at seven under, 1355 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 8: two shots ahead of Justin Rose and Daniel Brown. Scottie 1356 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 8: Scheffler He's five shots back at two under. Number of 1357 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 8: golfers posting low scores today Adam Scott shot five. 1358 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 9: Hundred, up to even par for the tournament. 1359 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 8: South Africa's Thriston Lawrence minus six today and he's up 1360 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 8: to three under for the weekend. Still has most of 1361 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 8: the back nine to play. Sam Burns minus four today 1362 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,520 Speaker 8: up to one under overall. 1363 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 9: A couple of late scores. 1364 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 8: In baseball, we start with some drama at Dodger Stadium 1365 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 8: and Freddie Beltz. 1366 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 3: It to right fielding deep tor the counter. 1367 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: His paus Backet's gone. 1368 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 8: It's the seventh career Grand Flam for Freddie. 1369 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Fremo and the Dodgers. 1370 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 8: Take up four on Longley. It's courtesy of a five 1371 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 8: to seventy LA Sports that was all the runs that 1372 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 8: LA would need. They beat the Red Sox four to one. Also, 1373 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 8: the Astro shout out the Mariners three to nothing. In 1374 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 8: one month, Houston has erased a ten game gap and 1375 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 8: they're now tied with Seattle atop the al West. USA 1376 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 8: Basketball has its next Olympic tune up coming up at 1377 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 8: three Eastern on FNKS today. They're taking on South Sudan 1378 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 8: in London. Kevin Durant questionable to play as he recovers 1379 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 8: from a calf injury. He just practiced with the team 1380 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 8: for the first time yesterday, and as we get it 1381 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 8: back to the guys, I don't want to derail Brian 1382 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 8: what you got on tap, but I am curious if 1383 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 8: any of you catched arenabl thirty three yesterday. 1384 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: I just saw the highlights. 1385 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 9: It was incredible. Just one of the funniest things I've 1386 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,719 Speaker 9: ever seen. 1387 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Shout out to Albany. 1388 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 2: I used to work there, Nick, you know, right on 1389 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 2: A bit short, but yeah, I saw the highlights of 1390 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 2: that thing. Okay, we got a Fox Sports Saturday here 1391 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio real fast. We're wanting to flip 1392 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 2: the list completely on its head. So the top ten 1393 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 2: list that came out recently. ESPN coaches Execs, all that 1394 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: good stuff, scouts. How about the bottom ten quarterbacks? I 1395 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,600 Speaker 2: think this is more difficult than the top ten quarterbacks 1396 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: because if you look at heading into twenty twenty four, 1397 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: what your list of the ten worst starting quarterbacks looks like. 1398 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, Holy cow, 1399 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 2: do I have Caleb Williams Heisman Trophy winner out of 1400 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 2: USC number one overall pick? 1401 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 1: Do I have them as a bottom ten quarterback right now? 1402 01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: And I do? 1403 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,679 Speaker 2: I've got them ten tenth worst in the NFL because 1404 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 2: you start looking at guys with experience in the end 1405 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 2: that matters. I think today he would be bottom ten 1406 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 2: my worst starting quarterback in the NFL process of elimination. 1407 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: I would go Bo Nix with the Broncos. 1408 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 2: I agree with them, right, and then I would go 1409 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Bryce Young with the Panthers as the second worst. Then 1410 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 2: it goes from there. But I think that list is 1411 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 2: more challenging than the top ten quarterbacks. 1412 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,879 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. Like Bryce Young, based on actual 1413 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 3: play and experience at the NFL level, he's easy to 1414 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 3: settle in there. You know. Here's the other thing. I 1415 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 3: kinda this sounds like almost rude, but I sort of 1416 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 3: take every single one of the drafted supposed starting rookie 1417 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and I throw them in the bottom ten. Wow, 1418 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 3: because here's the reality. And Jared, you know this because 1419 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 3: you're a numbers guy. The percentage plays against them. It's 1420 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 3: something like only forty percent or less than that's really 1421 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 3: like more like thirty seven percent of first round drafted 1422 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 3: quarterbacks even turn out to be franchise guys, Like most 1423 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 3: of these guys are busts. And so some years it's 1424 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 3: more than that, right, Some years, all of a sudden, 1425 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 3: you have I don't know if five drafted rookies, and 1426 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, three of them turn out to be okay, 1427 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 3: you know, they can be franchise quarterbacks in the NFL. 1428 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,799 Speaker 3: They're starters, they're competent. You know, some years it's a drought, 1429 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 3: you know, even as good as they looked coming out 1430 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 3: of college. Wrong system, wrong system fit, bad coaching, you know, 1431 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 3: head coach fired, whatever it may be. So I mean, automatically, 1432 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 3: I throw all those first round drafted rookies in the 1433 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 3: in the bottom ten, and then it gets a little 1434 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 3: bit more easy because you're really looking at only three 1435 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 3: more positions to fill after you lump Bryce Young down 1436 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 3: there in the basement. 1437 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 4: I think I'm a little so maybe this is gonna 1438 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 4: be some good discourse sitting in the air. I think 1439 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 4: I'm really higher on Bryce Young than maybe most of 1440 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,680 Speaker 4: you guys are, I think. And so, do you want 1441 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 4: me to give you my list or do you want 1442 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 4: me to make my Bryce Young case for why I think. 1443 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 1: He's a little bit real fast, give me the Bryce Young. 1444 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 4: I think Dave Canal's gonna have a really good impact 1445 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 4: on this kid, I honestly do, I really do. 1446 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: I think their. 1447 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 4: Offensive line is slightly improved this year. And I think 1448 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 4: Dave Canalis, like Frank Reich, was going through the motions 1449 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 4: last year. Guys, that was dead man walking. I just 1450 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 4: think it was a really tough situation for him. And 1451 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 4: I think Canalis, I mean, who really did wonders with 1452 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield turn him into a, you know, not at 1453 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 4: MVP level, but an All Star, Pro Bowl caliber quarterback 1454 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 4: last year? I think Dave Canalis Coach of the Year. 1455 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 4: Keep an eye on that again. Back to the futures 1456 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,759 Speaker 4: coming soon the radio station near you. Here's my list. 1457 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 4: I'll give you knicks. Well, I agree with you one 1458 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 4: hundred percent. Nicks is there is a love affair going 1459 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 4: on right now with Sean Payton and bow Knicks, and 1460 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 4: who knows, Jared Stidha might get some time at some 1461 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 4: point too. 1462 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: I kind of went so I changed it up. 1463 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 4: I kind of went team here because I think the 1464 01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 4: Viking situation. 1465 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Is the second word. 1466 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 4: The Darnald McCarthy duo is an absolute disaster. Then I 1467 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 4: went Raiders O'Connell and Minshew absolute disaster. Then I went 1468 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. Again, I'm giving some of the benefit of 1469 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 4: the doubt to some of these rookies right now. I'm 1470 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 4: a little higher on Caleb Williams because I think their 1471 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 4: situation is great. 1472 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: They've got weapons everywhere around him. 1473 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 4: I went Levis next, Levis next, Then I went Daniels. Obviously, 1474 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 4: you gotta throw some of the rookies in here. Then 1475 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 4: I went Drake May Jacoby Brissett, the consort in New 1476 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 4: England there. Then I got Bryce Young. I've got Bryce 1477 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 4: Young is like the seventh worst on my list. Then Richardson, 1478 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 4: and then I had to throw these two in there 1479 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,639 Speaker 4: because I'm just so down on both of them, Watson 1480 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 4: and Wilson Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson. 1481 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I it's gonna be. 1482 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 4: A really bad year for both of them, So not 1483 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 4: in my top ten or bottom ten list. Derek Carr, Baker, 1484 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. Like those guys are on the outside of 1485 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 4: it barely, they're barely on the outside. But Caleb's my 1486 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 4: next guy, right, you know, eleventh and then Baker and 1487 01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 4: then Carr. I think you can probably switch car and 1488 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 4: though in no argument there, but yeah, I've got a 1489 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 4: pretty interesting listener this thing. 1490 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: We're a little bit different on some of those. 1491 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 2: In the interest of time, I'll just say this, Well, 1492 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 2: I'll combine all of our statements here. 1493 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 1: Hitting the ground running as a rookie is really really 1494 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: yes in the NFL. And look, that's what makes c J. 1495 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Stroud season so spectacular last year, That's what makes Justin 1496 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Herbert's rookie season so sensational. 1497 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 2: You go back, man, You've got some of the best 1498 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks ever. John Elway was bad as a rookie. Peyton 1499 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 2: Manning had more interceptions than touchdowns as a rookie. Present 1500 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 2: day Josh Allen, who a lot of people have as 1501 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in the NFL. He threw more 1502 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:44,560 Speaker 2: interceptions than touchdowns his rookie season, so it's so difficult 1503 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,719 Speaker 2: as a rookie. Do I think Caleb Williams will pass 1504 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson maybe in short order? 1505 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that happen. I don't think today. 1506 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't think he's better than Russell Wilson today, And 1507 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people will disagree with that. But you 1508 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 2: have so many growing pain initially as a starting quarterback 1509 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL. I wouldn't have them above them just yet. 1510 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 2: Subject to change, fluid list, no doubt about that, but 1511 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have them just yet. 1512 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: There. 1513 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 2: All right, We've got rich onn Berger, Penn State, All American, 1514 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. 1515 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,679 Speaker 1: I'm Brian No coming up next bonding time. Huh. 1516 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 2: So many prop bet opportunities we will compare notes. It's 1517 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It 1518 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 1519 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: We don't have time to waste. Let's dive into this. 1520 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 6: Prop it up plays. 1521 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 2: Okay, prop betting opportunities. Jared, we start with you, what 1522 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:40,719 Speaker 2: are you thinking? 1523 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 3: Man? 1524 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: We'll call me a vulture. 1525 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 4: Todam swooping in and stealing one of Riches guys. Dylan 1526 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 4: Cees Padres Guardians tonight. I love this interleague matchup, and 1527 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 4: Dylan Cees is so the outs prop. 1528 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 3: Right. 1529 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 4: There's so many different directions you could go with the 1530 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 4: baseball prop market. It's all about what you're in the 1531 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 4: mood for. Say you're going at Chipotlet Callback earlier in 1532 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 4: the show. You want to go burrito, you want to 1533 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 4: go Brito Bowl, you can do that. We're gonna go 1534 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 4: outs prop with Dylan SE's today because the Guardians just. 1535 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 1: Don't really swing it that well against righties. 1536 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 4: Eleven out of the last thirteen righty starters have gone 1537 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 4: at least six innings against them. So Dylan SE's prop said, 1538 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 4: at seventeen and a half outs tonight. You do the 1539 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 4: math six innings, three outs, eighteen right, So we're going 1540 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 4: over seventeen and a half outs. 1541 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: He's done this in thirteen. 1542 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,919 Speaker 4: Of twenty starts this season. Good matchup tonight against the Guardians. 1543 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Okay, out wow wow wow. Okay, so we actually picked 1544 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 3: the same player, different prop. I love this a lot. 1545 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm taking the strikeouts thrown and for the same reason 1546 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,040 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have staying power tonight. I think 1547 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 3: that when he does lasting games, it's because he's locating 1548 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 3: his fastball, and so the over on the five and 1549 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 3: a half strikeouts thrown today, I'm taking Dylan ce So 1550 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 3: look at that. We have a outs prop and bike 1551 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,759 Speaker 3: outs prop. Maybe a little. 1552 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 4: Same game Parlas. You should because think about it, he 1553 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 4: goes over his outs prop. Odds are he's in the 1554 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 4: game long enough to go over the strikeouts prop. 1555 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,680 Speaker 2: Simpatico, simpatico, look at you, guys. So I'm gonna go 1556 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 2: with a completely different game. That's the beauty of I 1557 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 2: want to join the party here, but I got stuff 1558 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 2: from another game here, So pretty simplistic approach here. Cubs 1559 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 2: pitcher Kyle Hendricks, Well, he stinks this year, Okay, Zra 1560 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 2: is approaching seven. I'm gonna take him over two and 1561 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 2: a half earned runs allowed today against like gebacks and 1562 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 2: a guy in Christian Walker, who he's a threat to 1563 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 2: go yard right pretty much ever yet bat I'm gonna 1564 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 2: take him over one and a half total bases. Kyle 1565 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 2: Hendricks has just struggled so much this season. You don't 1566 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 2: have great numbers individually. You look at Christian Walker, he's 1567 01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 2: like six for twenty against Kyle Hendricks. But I think 1568 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,640 Speaker 2: the timing is right where I just don't like Hendricks 1569 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 2: at all this season, and when you get a couple 1570 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 2: of doubles mixed in there, I think that Christian Walker 1571 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 2: is good for two total bases at least today. So 1572 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 2: there you go, fade Hendricks and take your d Back 1573 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 2: hitter of choice. I would go with Christian Walker over 1574 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 2: one and a half total base. 1575 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it a lot. I would 1576 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 1: parlay that too with the Diamondbacks winning the game. 1577 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 4: Again, I love putting the correlated legs together, right with 1578 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 4: rich and I. If the guy goes deep in the game, 1579 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 4: probably gonna go over the strikeouts prop. 1580 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Brian's prop. 1581 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 4: If Kyle Hendricks gives up a lot of runs, Diamondbacks 1582 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 4: probably win in the game. 1583 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Pretty decent parlay there, correlated legs. I'll tell you something, 1584 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know which is better. 1585 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,639 Speaker 2: Where if you have a hitter and you know they 1586 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 2: just rips it double down the line and you get 1587 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 2: your two total bases and you're like boom, let's go. 1588 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Or if it's a. 1589 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 2: Home but if you have a picture and Dylan Ceese 1590 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,920 Speaker 2: has had some great outings this year. If you have 1591 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 2: a picture to go deep in the game or whatever prop. 1592 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: You have, and he's just the mowing them down, that 1593 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: is sweet too. 1594 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 3: That is beautiful. 1595 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Brian. 1596 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 4: What do you think about the Cardinals division of prospects here? 1597 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Do we think they're gonna make up some ground on 1598 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 1: the Brewers? 1599 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 2: Next couple are still but man, that Brewers offense, Jared, 1600 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,679 Speaker 2: you know it. They just have not tailed off. 1601 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,600 Speaker 4: They keep it Grand Slams like it's their job. It's ridiculous. 1602 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 4: I want to bet the Cardinals so bad. I I 1603 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,799 Speaker 4: still think they're gonna. 1604 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Do it vision do it allright? Coming up next? 1605 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,679 Speaker 2: This is one of the greatest examples of sugar coating 1606 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 2: your true feelings. 1607 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,559 Speaker 1: And it's lame. 1608 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: Happy Saturday to you. You know, we have breakfast at Wimbledon. 1609 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 2: I feel like we should have some sort of tagline 1610 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 2: for the Open Championship, right, I agree? Is that just 1611 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,919 Speaker 2: a Wimbledon thing? You can only have breakfast at Wimbledon. 1612 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't let you have breakfast outside of London. 1613 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 1: You can't have it anywhere else. Yeah. 1614 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, have you ever had like a 1615 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 3: true London breakfast? 1616 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,799 Speaker 1: It's kind of Croud. What is it? 1617 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 3: Oh, well, it's like, uh, I don't know. I went 1618 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 3: out there and again, maybe a lot has changed on 1619 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,360 Speaker 3: the breakfast scene. Uh since since I was last there 1620 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 3: when I was with the Patriots my rookie year. We 1621 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,040 Speaker 3: played the Buccaneers at Wembley Stadium. So I spent a 1622 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 3: full week in England. Wow, and I can tell you 1623 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:25,560 Speaker 3: they don't know how to cook eggs and the sausages. 1624 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 3: They're not breakfast. They're not the Jimmy Deans, you know 1625 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like the bangers, they're like, oh dude, 1626 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 3: Like there were some really gross stuff. Look, the point 1627 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 3: is I stuck to the rivers in the lakes I 1628 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 3: was used to. I went with honeynut cheerios, an old standby, 1629 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 3: and I found my way through. But but yeah, yeah, 1630 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 3: so breakfast at Wimbledon. Maybe it's better at Wimbledon. 1631 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,759 Speaker 1: You're not a baked beans guy for breakfast rich. 1632 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, dude, they serve so many beans. 1633 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,639 Speaker 1: The heavy bean culture there in England. Man, that's out 1634 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: of the gate with free holds. Really really yeah wow. 1635 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 4: Baked beans, black pudding and then the tomato on top 1636 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 4: of the fried egg. 1637 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,640 Speaker 1: I didn't mind. So I was in London for a 1638 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: few days for my you. 1639 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,719 Speaker 3: Call out there by the way they called it tomato. 1640 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true tomato. Here's what I couldn't get behind 1641 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 4: the pudding. The pudding really lost me. The beans I 1642 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 4: just kind of you know, I've eaten beans, and the 1643 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 4: pudding was weird, weird with you know what. I don't 1644 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 4: like food in Europe besides Italy and Greece, so it 1645 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 4: was the only two countries. 1646 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Also, Portugal have good food. Portugal good food. I think 1647 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: I would get along with Italy. 1648 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,640 Speaker 4: Just Italy's food is unmatched. It's number one on the 1649 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 4: rankings of all food. Come on, look there you go. 1650 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,480 Speaker 3: All right, So that's something that discontented me. Fecina Alfredo 1651 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 3: not Italian, that is an American dish, was pretty much yeah, 1652 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 3: that was made by the Olive Garden apparently. 1653 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 2: You know, I will bridge our food conversation to uh 1654 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 2: comments that were quite distasteful. Okay, how about this Jalen 1655 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 2: Brown with the Boston Celtics. Now, I don't have a 1656 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 2: problem with his initial statement. It's the way he walked 1657 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 2: it back that I have a problem with. So Jalen 1658 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Brown Finals MVP just won a championship with the Boston Celtics. 1659 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 2: This week, he was checking out some hot summer league action, right, NBA, 1660 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: we got the rookies, the lesser known players battling it 1661 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 2: out in summer league, trying to make a roster, get 1662 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 2: some playing time, that whole thing. So Jalen Brown was 1663 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 2: sitting courtside and a video picked him up saying I 1664 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 2: don't think Bronnie is a pro. 1665 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: It was like clear as day, right, And so. 1666 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 2: The follow up tweet from Jalen Brown, he quote tweets 1667 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 2: this video that clearly has him saying I don't think 1668 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 2: Bronni is a pro. And the follow up tweet is 1669 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 2: it's a flex to have your son alongside you in 1670 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 2: the NBA. It reflects greatness and longevity. Bronni has all 1671 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 2: the tools around him to be successful. I look forward 1672 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:07,360 Speaker 2: to watching his growth. Like what you want to talk 1673 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 2: about sugarcoating some true feelings right there. 1674 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 1675 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,760 Speaker 2: Look, man, I don't know why people are having a 1676 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 2: hard time just cutting to the chase when it comes 1677 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 2: to Bronnie James. If you think he's stunk in summer league, 1678 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 2: there's no crime in saying that. If you're skeptical he's 1679 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 2: ever gonna work out in the NBA. I don't know 1680 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 2: why so many players or analysts are having a hard 1681 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 2: time just saying that. It doesn't mean you're rooting against 1682 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 2: the kid. 1683 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 1: I don't. 1684 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 2: I don't know why that would automatically mean that. But 1685 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is one of many dancing around the truth. 1686 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 2: He's in a video saying I don't think he's in 1687 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 2: a pro and the next he's like, he's got a 1688 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 2: great team around him, and I look forward to watching 1689 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 2: his growth. 1690 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: Get out of here, just say what you. 1691 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 3: Think, yeah, yeah, See, here's the reality of the situation. 1692 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 3: Bronnie doesn't look like a pro. He looks like a 1693 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 3: guy who's stumbling through some summer league who probably would 1694 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 3: end up washed out onto a G league team and 1695 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 3: we would most likely never hear about him ever again. 1696 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 3: But the problem is, well, or I should say, the 1697 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 3: solution for Bronni is who his dad is. So it's 1698 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,640 Speaker 3: going to be a very different story. He's going to 1699 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 3: get every opportunity to be a great basketball player, and 1700 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 3: who knows, maybe at some point he will become a 1701 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 3: great basketball player at the pro level. And I think 1702 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 3: I agree with both parts of this. I think he 1703 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 3: doesn't look like a pro right now. I think that's 1704 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 3: quite obvious. But I also do think he has a 1705 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 3: lot of tools and a lot of raw ability that 1706 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 3: could someday that he could someday turn into an actual 1707 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,840 Speaker 3: pro basketball player. But he's certainly a far cry from 1708 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 3: one right now. And I think you should be comfortable 1709 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,680 Speaker 3: with saying both in the same breath. So I'm not 1710 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 3: so mad at it. I think it was probably a 1711 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:11,679 Speaker 3: continuation of the analysis of Bronnie James, and I guess 1712 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,599 Speaker 3: in some ways you can look at it as sugarcoating it. 1713 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:20,480 Speaker 3: But this conversation, it doesn't matter who comments on it, 1714 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna have a lot of steam because nepotism is 1715 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 3: a big part of this story, and it's going to 1716 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 3: rub a lot of people the wrong way. 1717 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 1: I was so in that video. Also, Angel Reese is 1718 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 1: sitting two people away. 1719 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 4: From it, and she's just like looking at her phone like, 1720 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,840 Speaker 4: oh man, Like I'm not getting involved in this conversation. 1721 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,760 Speaker 4: And of course Angels had plenty of her own controversy, 1722 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 4: And it's just funny how all this stuff just seems 1723 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 4: to find it's the hurricane and the eye of the Hurricane. 1724 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jalen brown both. 1725 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 4: Things can be true, right, Bronni's not a pro, and 1726 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 4: then all of the other stuff that Jalen backtrack, like, 1727 01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 4: both of those things can be true. I think with 1728 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 4: Jayalen it was more of a self awareness thing, like 1729 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 4: he probably didn't really like he's having fun, he's at 1730 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 4: the game, He's probably he's in Vegas, baby, He's probably 1731 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 4: had a couple of drinks, hanging out courtside with some 1732 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 4: popular athletes talking it and then you know, he kind 1733 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 4: of puts his foot in his mouth and someone caught 1734 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,800 Speaker 4: him putting his foot in his mouth, and now he 1735 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 4: had to kind of, you know, make it seem like 1736 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 4: he wasn't because he still has a step on the 1737 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 4: floor with Lebron or with Brownie's dad at some point 1738 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 4: next year. And it's awkward, right, you know, you never 1739 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,720 Speaker 4: want it's It's it's almost like everyone does this. We 1740 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 4: all work with people. I'm sure you guys have all 1741 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 4: done it well done it. Like you're talking about someone 1742 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,519 Speaker 4: behind your back that you work with. Like it happens, guy, 1743 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 4: It happens every day in this business with all kinds 1744 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 4: of people. It just so happens that Jalen Brown had 1745 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,160 Speaker 4: a camera on him court side, and that was the 1746 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 4: part that he should have realized. We in the broadcasting 1747 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 4: industry know we always know when the MIC's are on, Like, 1748 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,840 Speaker 4: you don't say stuff like that when the MIC's are on. 1749 01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 4: For a guy like Jalen Brown, the mic is always 1750 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 4: on on. The camera's always on him because he's a celebrity. 1751 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 4: There's positives and negatives to being a celebrity. This is 1752 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 4: one of the negatives. The positives are, you're rich, You're 1753 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 4: stinking rich, and you get to fly around the country 1754 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes the world and play the sport 1755 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 4: that you love that's a children's game basically, and you 1756 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,280 Speaker 4: get to play it for millions of dollars. The downside 1757 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 4: is you always are under the microscope, and Jalen learned 1758 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 4: that lesson. 1759 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,360 Speaker 1: The hard way. This is backtracking one oh one. This 1760 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 1: is was. 1761 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 3: Pr PR guy told him to put that out. 1762 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,759 Speaker 1: This is the truck backing up like the sound it makes. 1763 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 1: That is Jalen Brown, Right, are you kidding me? 1764 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,640 Speaker 2: In one breath, he's like, I don't think Bronnie is 1765 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: a pro. 1766 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,240 Speaker 1: He didn't say, Man, he's raw right now. 1767 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 2: Man, he needs a lot of work or something like, 1768 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a pro, very candid, you can 1769 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 2: work all you want. I don't think you're gonna cut 1770 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: it in the NBA. It's really what he's saying. And 1771 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,200 Speaker 2: then the next thing is Bronnie has all the jewels 1772 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 2: around him to be successful. I look forward to watching 1773 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 2: his growth. Get the hell out of here. I don't 1774 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 2: know why so many people they act like they got 1775 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 2: their hand caught in the cookie jar, and they're like no, no, no, no, 1776 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 2: no no, and they just backtrack man, like there's nothing 1777 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,400 Speaker 2: wrong with saying, yeah, I said it. I don't think 1778 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 2: he's a pro, But they they like flinch like they're 1779 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,080 Speaker 2: gonna get kicked out of the cool club, and they 1780 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 2: just start. 1781 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 1: Like, oh no, no, he's got nice hair. I mean, 1782 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 1: his hair is beautiful. Come on, man, if you don't 1783 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 1: think he's a bro, just stand by it. Why can't 1784 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 1: you stand by it? 1785 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, I would say this. I would say he stepped 1786 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 3: into it, he didn't necessarily want to, and now he's 1787 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 3: regretting what he said. I agree with you. I do 1788 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 3: think that that's probably honestly how he feels. But at 1789 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 3: the same token, like I understand that feeling of being like, gosh, 1790 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 3: you know what, I should have just kept my big 1791 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:06,400 Speaker 3: mouth shut. Why did I say the truth? Like I 1792 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,479 Speaker 3: could have just been like, you know, I remember my 1793 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 3: rookie year and it's tough out there, and you know, 1794 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 3: there's a lot of challenges, it's a lot of new 1795 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, new faces on the court. It takes a 1796 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 3: while to settle in. I'm rooting for him to settle 1797 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 3: in and become the pro he's he should become, you know, Like, 1798 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 3: there's way to sidestep the question without saying, oh, no, 1799 01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,599 Speaker 3: I think he's the future of this league, or hey, 1800 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, I think I think he's a worthwhile draft pick, 1801 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 3: or you know, you don't have to lie, but you 1802 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 3: absolutely can sidestep the question. I'll tell you right now. 1803 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 3: Part of being married is luraboy questions you should answer 1804 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,679 Speaker 3: and learning the questions you should tap to answer around 1805 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 3: you gotta go dere teeter quite a bit. 1806 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,120 Speaker 2: If the truth is that in your favorite you don't 1807 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 2: have to lie, you have to avoid the truth. 1808 01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's the best. Honesty is the best policy policy. 1809 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 3: Until you're married, and then you okay, then you meet, 1810 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 3: then you meet like a guy who's been married fifty 1811 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 3: years and you know you honestly, you ask him how 1812 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 3: you did it, how he did it, and he starts 1813 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,439 Speaker 3: lacing on tap dancing shoes and you're like, oh, I 1814 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 3: get it, because not every question. So so listen, Jalen Brown, 1815 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:24,799 Speaker 3: every pro out there. I'm not saying you have to lie. 1816 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that even the 1817 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 3: honest truth isn't worthwhile, because a lot of times it is. 1818 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,000 Speaker 3: It could be delivered in a in a much softer 1819 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 3: way because when you say the honest truth, like hey, 1820 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 3: does this dress make me look fast? Maybe that's not 1821 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 3: a great answer to give. Hey is Bronni a pro? 1822 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 3: Maybe that answer isn't the right one to give. But 1823 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 3: here's the difference here. He wasn't even asked, like in 1824 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 3: a formal setting. 1825 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: It's just a statement. 1826 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 4: He was just hanging out at the game talking with 1827 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,280 Speaker 4: his friends. This is the equivalent if you want to 1828 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 4: go relationships. This is the equivalent. Like you are at 1829 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 4: a bar with your guy friends and they're like, man, 1830 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 4: my wife is on me about this and this and this, 1831 01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 4: and you don't realize it, but your wife is watching 1832 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 4: a hidden camera at the bar hearing everything that you 1833 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,040 Speaker 4: say about her. 1834 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,519 Speaker 1: That is the problem with this. 1835 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,719 Speaker 4: Like I feel bad for Jalen because he probably thought 1836 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 4: he wasn't in the microscope under here right in the spot, 1837 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,720 Speaker 4: like everyone was watching him and listening to him. But 1838 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 4: you have to know if you're court side at any 1839 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 4: sporting event, there are cameras everywhere, and you are a 1840 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 4: professional NBA player at a Summer League game, you're the star. 1841 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,719 Speaker 4: The guys on the floor are not the stars. You're 1842 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 4: the star on the sidelines. You have that better self awareness. 1843 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do correct, And it's funny to There was 1844 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,479 Speaker 2: a follow up chet Holmgren from the Oklahoma City Thunder 1845 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,920 Speaker 2: Bronni had a nice game in Summer League and Chet 1846 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,719 Speaker 2: he tweeted looked like a pro so as a callback 1847 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 2: to Jalen Brown's initial video. 1848 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,639 Speaker 1: And it just has legs. Man, that's the thing. 1849 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 2: Bronnie James is such a story, Like it keeps going 1850 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 2: and going, and that's the thing. Man, I don't want 1851 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 2: to get out the violin and woe is Bronni and 1852 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 2: poor Bronnie and all that, But it really is amazing 1853 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,719 Speaker 2: to me that there's no easing in for Bronnie Bronnie's 1854 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 2: a guy who got a handful of minutes in one 1855 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,760 Speaker 2: year at USC and in short order he's gonna be 1856 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 2: trying to figure it out as a nineteen year old 1857 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 2: on the fly against NBA players that are worlds better 1858 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,559 Speaker 2: than her right now. 1859 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: That is tough. Yet he cannot ease in. And Alex Saar, 1860 01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 1: who was the second overall pick. There was a game 1861 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 1: in Summer League he was zero for fifteen. No one cares, 1862 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Nobody can not a story, not an issue, not gonna 1863 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 1: be leading debate shows. 1864 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 2: It's all about Bronnie, Bronni, Bronnie. And that's the thing, man, 1865 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,280 Speaker 2: there is no easing in. He has got to learn 1866 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 2: how to swim when he does it know how, and 1867 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,400 Speaker 2: he's been thrown in the deep end. 1868 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:07,559 Speaker 3: That is not easy at all. It's it's the reality 1869 01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 3: of the situation though. Yeah, I mean then there's no 1870 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,800 Speaker 3: escaping it. And and by the way, I think that's 1871 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 3: a great comparison, like talking about like where he came 1872 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 3: from and where he's at now, it would be like 1873 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,640 Speaker 3: being the best fry cook at the best McDonald's. 1874 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all of a sudden, somebody saying, you. 1875 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,479 Speaker 3: Know what, you got potential kid, we're gonna put you 1876 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 3: in a you know, three Michelin star French restaurant. Good luck. 1877 01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:32,439 Speaker 3: It's like, wait a second. 1878 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 1: Yes, right, Yeah, you're on a cooking show and they 1879 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,600 Speaker 1: give you two things. They're like, all right, make a 1880 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,599 Speaker 1: su flea out of that. Yeah, not easy. 1881 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 4: Is this similar or different than the Kaitlyn Clark situation? 1882 01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,800 Speaker 4: Do you think there's similarities or do you think because 1883 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 4: it's such a different realm that I. 1884 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 2: Do think there are a couple of similarities where any 1885 01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:55,439 Speaker 2: little thing they. 1886 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Caitlan Clark's story sister is not the best 1887 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 4: player in the sport, or there's not the best player 1888 01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 4: in the sport, and you're graduating to that. 1889 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 1: Like, that's the difference, right. I don't think there's any 1890 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 1: easing in for either of them. Yeah, the spotlight or that, right. 1891 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,599 Speaker 1: But the thing that's different is look at what Caitlyn 1892 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 1: did in college, true, compared to that. That's what makes 1893 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 1: it very different too. 1894 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 4: Caitlyn actually has some you know, some accolades to fall 1895 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 4: back on. 1896 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,520 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, and so much more experience, you know that 1897 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 2: That's what makes like you're thrown in and you're just 1898 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,200 Speaker 2: trying to tread water. 1899 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Initially. 1900 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,040 Speaker 2: Now Caitlyn has found it and she's starting to excel. 1901 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 2: But man, she had so much more experience to tread 1902 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 2: water initially and then get her legs underneath her. Like 1903 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,599 Speaker 2: Bronnie Man Good. 1904 01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 1: Which situation would you rather be in? 1905 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 4: I think Caitlyn Clark right, although Bronnie I think might 1906 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 4: make more money at the end of the day. 1907 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,280 Speaker 1: I would rather be in Caitlin's shoes. 1908 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just because again, she's got the game to back 1909 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 2: it up. She's got the game to sustain all this drama. 1910 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,439 Speaker 2: She also might be one of the best players in 1911 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,559 Speaker 2: her respective sports. I don't think Brianni will ever get 1912 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:03,120 Speaker 2: to that point. 1913 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 1: No, I don't either. 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The game is 1941 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,479 Speaker 1: either neither or both. 1942 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 2: So we've got trade rumors to Vonte Adams with the 1943 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 2: Raiders right now, maybe to the Jets. Maybe reunited with 1944 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:35,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Just a rumor right now. Also, Brandon Ayuk 1945 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,559 Speaker 2: really good receiver with the Niners. Officially requested a trade. 1946 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,799 Speaker 2: He wants his cash. The Niners say, we're not interested 1947 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 2: in trading you or paying you market value, and it's like, 1948 01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,679 Speaker 2: well something's got to give. Okay, So either neither or both, 1949 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,880 Speaker 2: not necessarily before the season, any time during the twenty 1950 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,400 Speaker 2: twenty four season to Vante Adams Brandon Ayuk will either 1951 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:03,560 Speaker 2: neither or both be traded to a different team. 1952 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:09,719 Speaker 3: Oh all right, so I'm gonna say either, I'm I'm 1953 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,160 Speaker 3: most like, I'm leaning more towards Devonte Adams. And here's why. 1954 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:18,760 Speaker 3: So the Adams is playing for the Raiders, who they 1955 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 3: are breaking in. What is really a rookie head coach? 1956 01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,320 Speaker 3: I know Antonio Pierce had some run last year as 1957 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 3: an interim and the locker room loved him, and Aidan 1958 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 3: O'Connell and Gardner Minshew are the two quarterbacks who are 1959 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 3: most likely to receive the most starting time on the 1960 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 3: field with him. Brock Purdy, now, granted he was the 1961 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 3: last pick in the draft three years ago, has proven 1962 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:48,080 Speaker 3: to be a very competent, smart composed quarterback in big moments. 1963 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,800 Speaker 3: He has playoff success under his belt now, and the 1964 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,679 Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers, outside of maybe one position 1965 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,640 Speaker 3: group probably possess the most talented roster in all of 1966 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 3: the so my guess is Brandon Ayuk in the forty 1967 01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,799 Speaker 3: nine Ers will most likely find a way to patch 1968 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,719 Speaker 3: things up. And this is all just a leverage play 1969 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,719 Speaker 3: in terms of Devonte Adams and Aaron Rodgers playing together, 1970 01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 3: I can very easily see DeVante Adams being traded elsewhere 1971 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,679 Speaker 3: as the Raiders season gets off to a bumpy start, 1972 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,200 Speaker 3: and before the deadline they move them. So I'm gonna 1973 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with either in terms of those three choices, 1974 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,240 Speaker 3: either neither or both, I'm going either. It's going to 1975 01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 3: be Devonte Adams, though, who's gonna be moved? 1976 01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 4: Follow the money. It's always back to follow the money. 1977 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,439 Speaker 4: Devontae Adams is doe thirty five million dollars next year. 1978 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 4: The Raiders are not keeping him. They're not keeping him now. 1979 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 4: They can get out of the contract, right, there's some 1980 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,479 Speaker 4: dead cap stuff and all that, but they. 1981 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 1: Would much rather much rather make a deal. 1982 01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 4: With Let's just say it is the Jets who will 1983 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 4: probably eat the majority of that deal, and they won't 1984 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 4: have to give up any significant capital to do so. 1985 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,160 Speaker 4: On the other side, right, you know, you think you're 1986 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,160 Speaker 4: trading for DeVante Adams, you have to give up a 1987 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 4: lot to get him. But in this case, the Raiders 1988 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,000 Speaker 4: just want out of this albatross contract. 1989 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I've heard. Whereas the Ayuke stuff. 1990 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 4: I've heard it's all posturing. Iyuke doesn't really have a 1991 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,719 Speaker 4: leg to stand on here. He's under like he's got 1992 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,600 Speaker 4: more of a team friendly deal because it's just his 1993 01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 4: rookie contract. He's not owed a whole lot of money. 1994 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 4: So it's just it's a different situation because of where 1995 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 4: the two players are in their career. 1996 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:32,559 Speaker 1: It's harder to move eye. 1997 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 4: You have to give up more to get them, and 1998 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 4: that's where I just it's gonna be tough, I think, 1999 01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 4: because he's basically an unrestricted free agent next year, so 2000 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,599 Speaker 4: you don't, you know, you have to give up the 2001 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,439 Speaker 4: farm for him because is basically a clean slate. Whereas 2002 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,640 Speaker 4: Adams brings over this contract. The Raiders just want to 2003 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,759 Speaker 4: get rid of his contract so bad. The Niners aren't 2004 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:53,519 Speaker 4: in that much. 2005 01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 3: Of a hurry. 2006 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,880 Speaker 4: There is no contract to get rid of, so San 2007 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,559 Speaker 4: Francisco has all the leverage here. 2008 01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:59,720 Speaker 1: They don't need the trade him. 2009 01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 4: I think Deebo Samuel is probably more likely to get 2010 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 4: traded this year than Brandon Ayuk. And it feels like 2011 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,840 Speaker 4: this is just both sides going back and forth saying 2012 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 4: we want to get traded, but we're not gonna trade you, 2013 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 4: We're not gonna pay you. This feels like the negotiation 2014 01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,559 Speaker 4: is happening in public, whereas the DeVante Adams stuff is 2015 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 4: very much. Man, we've got to get rid of this 2016 01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,559 Speaker 4: contract because we're not paying DeVante this money. 2017 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:24,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2018 01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 2: I just look, man, the Raiders are just not a 2019 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,760 Speaker 2: roster isn't good enough to really compete and go somewhere. 2020 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,960 Speaker 2: It's like, just look at the quarterback situation. You laid 2021 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:35,639 Speaker 2: it out, Jared. 2022 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,480 Speaker 1: You're in the same division as Mahomes. 2023 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 2: You've got the two headed monster of Gardner Minshew and 2024 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell right like you're dead already, Like there's no chance, 2025 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:45,439 Speaker 2: come on. 2026 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,599 Speaker 1: Dump the Yeah. 2027 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 2: And that's the thing I think both sides, it doesn't 2028 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 2: make sense for the Raiders to hold on to this, yep, 2029 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,559 Speaker 2: great high priced receiver when the rest of the roster 2030 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 2: isn't on that level. And then you got to move 2031 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,520 Speaker 2: and try to get young and for the for DeVante. 2032 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 2: If you've watched this Receiver series on Netflix, really good. 2033 01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 2: But he's driven at home time and time and time again. 2034 01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 2: He wants a ring, he wants team success. He's had 2035 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,840 Speaker 2: all the individual accolades he wants to win, and it's 2036 01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 2: not happening in Vegas here. So I think it makes 2037 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 2: sense for both sides for him to get moved. The 2038 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 2: Ayuk thing is interesting because he wants money along the 2039 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 2: same lines as say AJ Brown or Amen Ross, Saint Brown, 2040 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 2: anybody's name that ends in brown, Let me give give 2041 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 2: me that green, right, Like, hey, but those guys are 2042 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,640 Speaker 2: AJ Brown makes thirty two mil a season, am and 2043 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,640 Speaker 2: Ram makes thirty million dollars a season now that he 2044 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:46,439 Speaker 2: got his deal done, And the Niners are looking at 2045 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:50,519 Speaker 2: this and saying, man, we gotta pay a lot of dudes, right, 2046 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,800 Speaker 2: We got nick Bo, so we got Purty coming up 2047 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:56,839 Speaker 2: pretty soon. We gotta give perty something fifty five fifty 2048 01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 2: million plus. 2049 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,280 Speaker 1: Right, Like that's a ton of cash. 2050 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 2: And so they're looking at this and saying, we've got 2051 01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:07,959 Speaker 2: a skimp somewhere and paying Ayuk thirty two million dollars 2052 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,680 Speaker 2: per season when you've got to pay all those other players. 2053 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 2: That's why I can see them balking. Does it get 2054 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,000 Speaker 2: to the point where it's just you can't move forward. 2055 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,280 Speaker 2: You're not gonna come close to Ayuk's price, Ayuk's not budgeting, 2056 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,200 Speaker 2: and then something has to happen to you, guys points. 2057 01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,760 Speaker 2: I think that's less likely. I would go either. I 2058 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,280 Speaker 2: think Davante gets moved. I'm not as certain Brandon Nyuk. 2059 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 2: I would love to go both, but I just can't 2060 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 2: pull the trigger on that because I still think he's 2061 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 2: in a Niners uniform. This is this is an all 2062 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 2: in situation for the forty nine ers. I don't see 2063 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 2: them cutting bait just yet. 2064 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And also DeVante Adams remember the reason why 2065 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,519 Speaker 3: I went to the Raiders in the first place. He's 2066 01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:53,760 Speaker 3: played three teams over the last what twelve years? He's 2067 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 3: played at Fresno State, the Green Bay Packers, and the Raiders. 2068 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,679 Speaker 3: That's it. And the quarterback that he's played for they 2069 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:05,120 Speaker 3: go by two names, Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr. You 2070 01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean now, and those are the quarterbacks 2071 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 3: he agreed to play with. Now, Derek Margets moved and 2072 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the rug kind of gets pulled 2073 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,839 Speaker 3: out from under his feet. I see him being loyal 2074 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 3: to people more than he is loyal to the jersey 2075 01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,639 Speaker 3: on his chest. That's the reason why he was willing 2076 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:28,479 Speaker 3: to move on to Las Vegas in the first place. 2077 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 3: So I could see him moving for Aaron Rodgers, and 2078 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,920 Speaker 3: I could see the Raiders facilitating that, because, like you 2079 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 3: just pointed out, Jared follow the money. It doesn't make sense. 2080 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 3: The window for the Jets is open for only a 2081 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,840 Speaker 3: very short amount of time. So you push your chips 2082 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 3: to the middle of the table, You add some salary, 2083 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,600 Speaker 3: You probably have to restructure a little bit, guarantee some 2084 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,679 Speaker 3: money up front if you're going to sign a player 2085 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 3: with that heavy of a cat burden, But so be it. 2086 01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,040 Speaker 3: You get one big bite at the apple, in the 2087 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,760 Speaker 3: big Apple this year, and then you see where the 2088 01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,360 Speaker 3: chips fall. Maybe it's a deep playoff push. Who knows, 2089 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,400 Speaker 3: Maybe Jared Smith parlay hits in the Jets. That's the leg, 2090 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,439 Speaker 3: that final leg of that big parlay hits in the 2091 01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:13,639 Speaker 3: Jets win the Super Bowl. 2092 01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,720 Speaker 4: We'll see if we make it to October and that 2093 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,880 Speaker 4: suckers still alive. I'm already in my mind gonna be 2094 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:23,879 Speaker 4: on a beach in Bermuda. But Mike Williams already starting 2095 01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 4: the season on the pup list is another factor here 2096 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,479 Speaker 4: to consider. Mike Williams, the receiver for the Jets, who 2097 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,840 Speaker 4: the Jets brought in very low risk, one year deal, 2098 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,400 Speaker 4: not a lot of money involved. He's injury prone. He's 2099 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 4: been injury prone his whole career. He's already here, and 2100 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:45,439 Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if if that situation accelerates 2101 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,160 Speaker 4: the DeVante Adams trade rumors to the Jets, because outside 2102 01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,080 Speaker 4: of Garrett Wilson, the Jets have some really nice young pieces. 2103 01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 4: I love the kid they just drafted out of Western Kentucky, 2104 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,040 Speaker 4: Malachi Corley. Of course, we saw the Gibson kid all 2105 01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 4: over hard knocks last year. Like those are kind of 2106 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 4: the backuppers for the Jets. It's Garrett Wilson, it's it's 2107 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,879 Speaker 4: Alan Lazard still, and it's Mike Williams. Well, Mike Williams 2108 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 4: is the number two guys already hurt. So imagine if 2109 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 4: it's Garrett Wilson and Devonte Adams. Oh, Davy, sign me 2110 01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 4: up for that. 2111 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:16,920 Speaker 1: Cooking with grease at that point for sure. 2112 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,759 Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna ask a simple question, that's uh 2113 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,639 Speaker 2: with the NFL be this dumb, right, like, and we'll 2114 01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 2: apply it to another league here in just a second 2115 01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 2: first thought, Nick Cope with us, who I think is 2116 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 2: the equivalent of cooking with grease as well, Nick with 2117 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:33,479 Speaker 2: the latest. 2118 01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2119 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:35,160 Speaker 9: All right, guys? 2120 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,600 Speaker 8: The rain is coming down harder at the Open Championship 2121 01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,400 Speaker 8: or the British Open, as you prefer. Brian Shane Lowry 2122 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,240 Speaker 8: still your leader, though he is and seven under, has 2123 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,000 Speaker 8: a two shot lead on Justin Rose and Daniel Brown. 2124 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 8: Couple of Englishmen, but some notable names in the mix. 2125 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 8: Ears Ander, Sean Fley is Scottie Scheffler part of a 2126 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:55,679 Speaker 8: four way time for fifth. 2127 01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 1: They are at three under, four shouns. 2128 01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,040 Speaker 9: Back of the lead. 2129 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 8: I've had some big today. Adam Scott moved forty one positions. 2130 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,200 Speaker 8: He finishes round five under to get to even parr. 2131 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 8: American Sam Burns He's vaulted nineteen spots. He's five under 2132 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 8: today to get to minus two. The leaders, though they 2133 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,640 Speaker 8: are still early on in their round, going through the 2134 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,840 Speaker 8: middle of the front nine, so we'll keep an eye 2135 01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,759 Speaker 8: on that. Couple of late scores in baseball from Friday, 2136 01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,920 Speaker 8: Freddie Freeman hit an eighth inn and grand slam, pushing 2137 01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,960 Speaker 8: the Dodgers past the Red Sox four to one, Astro 2138 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 8: shout out the Mariners three to nothing. So in the 2139 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,320 Speaker 8: course of a month, Houston has erased a ten game 2140 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 8: gap and they're now tied with Seattle atop the Al West. 2141 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,800 Speaker 8: And USA basketball has its penultimate Olympic tune up coming 2142 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,320 Speaker 8: up today three Eastern on Fox are going to take 2143 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,080 Speaker 8: on South Sudan in London. South Sudan is in their 2144 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,760 Speaker 8: Olympic group. Kevin Durant Listen is questionable to play as 2145 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 8: he recovers from a calf injury. He only just practiced 2146 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,919 Speaker 8: with the team for the first time on Friday. 2147 01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 9: Guys, back to you, thank you. 2148 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,080 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 2149 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,040 Speaker 1: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up. 2150 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,160 Speaker 2: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to 2151 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,519 Speaker 2: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 2152 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,120 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, rate and 2153 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,160 Speaker 2: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 2154 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,720 Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll see the show posted right 2155 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,960 Speaker 2: after we get off the air. So baseball is at 2156 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,639 Speaker 2: it again, you guys, hear this the twenty twenty five 2157 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,840 Speaker 2: MLB season. It's gonna open up. It's gonna be a 2158 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:34,920 Speaker 2: two game series in Japan. Yeah, it's gonna It's gonna 2159 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,000 Speaker 2: be the Cubs and the Dodgers. So you get some 2160 01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:41,080 Speaker 2: Japanese players, right, you get show hey O Tani, you 2161 01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,760 Speaker 2: get my Yamamoto, you get I Monaga over there with 2162 01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:45,280 Speaker 2: the Cubs. 2163 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:45,800 Speaker 3: That's great. 2164 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:50,600 Speaker 2: It's fantastic, except one thing might not be great for 2165 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,240 Speaker 2: the viewing audience here in the United States. 2166 01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's just silly. 2167 01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,280 Speaker 2: They just did this, right, we were arguing about this 2168 01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,960 Speaker 2: or whining about it, whatever you want to say. 2169 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,880 Speaker 1: With the Dodgers and Padres they were in Korea. 2170 01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,920 Speaker 3: It was the Sohole series. 2171 01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 2: It's like, it's not even on at a time when 2172 01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 2: people are awake in this country. Why would can you 2173 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:19,479 Speaker 2: imagine the NFL just a little litmus test here, The 2174 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,120 Speaker 2: NFL is just going to kick off the season in 2175 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,799 Speaker 2: Korea and it's at a time where most. 2176 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,200 Speaker 1: People are asleep. Would they ever do that? 2177 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:29,680 Speaker 3: No? 2178 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:34,559 Speaker 2: Is the answer. So why is MLB continuing to do this? 2179 01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. 2180 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:41,840 Speaker 3: It's just prioritizing the wrong things. Now, don't get me wrong. 2181 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,759 Speaker 3: I understand that you have a lot of international fans, 2182 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,479 Speaker 3: a lot of them, you know, a lot of new 2183 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,840 Speaker 3: fans of the game. In Japan certainly has been an 2184 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 3: emerging baseball market for many years now. Korea not far 2185 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 3: behind Japan in terms of Asian countries that have been 2186 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 3: up and comers in terms of their interests and their 2187 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,280 Speaker 3: viewership and the ratings that Major League Baseball is seeing 2188 01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,640 Speaker 3: from these two countries. But the amount of interest in 2189 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:12,640 Speaker 3: those two countries versus the overwhelming amount of interest in 2190 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:17,439 Speaker 3: baseball in our country, it's it's it's a stark difference, 2191 01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 3: you know, And I don't know, it kind of feels 2192 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:25,040 Speaker 3: like when all of a sudden, you know, a television 2193 01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:31,360 Speaker 3: show starts gaining steam and just because they they have 2194 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,640 Speaker 3: a couple of, you know, episodes in Hawaii, and you're like, 2195 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,400 Speaker 3: why are they all of a sudden in Hawaii, Like 2196 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,679 Speaker 3: why does it? And then you realize, Oh, it's because 2197 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,840 Speaker 3: like the cast wanted to be in Hawaii. Like like 2198 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It doesn't it doesn't matter 2199 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,400 Speaker 3: necessarily for the fan or the viewer. It's really a 2200 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:54,679 Speaker 3: decision that benefits like the production. And that's that's that's 2201 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,519 Speaker 3: actually maybe a little bit even different from what I'm 2202 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,519 Speaker 3: talking about, because this does have an effect on the 2203 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,639 Speaker 3: viewership audience. Like, your main viewership audience is in the States, 2204 01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,320 Speaker 3: So this yeah, yeah, this may benefit the production, this 2205 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,280 Speaker 3: may benefit Major League Baseball, but it's also at the 2206 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:15,560 Speaker 3: detriment of your chief viewing audience, which is here Stateside. 2207 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:22,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the dumbest thing ever. Baseball continues to miss the. 2208 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:23,799 Speaker 1: Bullseye with this stuff. 2209 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,719 Speaker 4: They open their season in the middle of the night, 2210 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:33,760 Speaker 4: during March madness in a foreign country. And again, this 2211 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:39,519 Speaker 4: is not a knock on having international games, right, have them. 2212 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:39,479 Speaker 1: Not opening day? 2213 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,519 Speaker 4: Right, not the first game of the year when Hope 2214 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:49,320 Speaker 4: springs eternal we're all sleeping, or we're caring about college basketball. 2215 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,800 Speaker 1: Like, you've got to know, you got to read the room. 2216 01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:57,559 Speaker 4: There's a reason why the baseball audience continues to skew 2217 01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 4: older and older. Those fans are gonna be in it 2218 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:05,400 Speaker 4: no matter what. The goal for the baseball marketing people 2219 01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,920 Speaker 4: should not be to keep the aging fans that are 2220 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,599 Speaker 4: going to watch, no matter what they should be. How 2221 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,120 Speaker 4: do we get new, younger fans into the mix. Here's 2222 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,320 Speaker 4: how you don't get the new audience, the younger audience. 2223 01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,200 Speaker 4: You don't schedule your opening day in the middle of 2224 01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,599 Speaker 4: the night during March madness in a foreign country. 2225 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeap, Now here's what you do. Do you let Paul 2226 01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,639 Speaker 1: Skan start the All Star Game? 2227 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 4: Okay, checkbox, we got one right, We got one right, Baseball. 2228 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,439 Speaker 1: The next week, you got it right back to wrong, 2229 01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:38,120 Speaker 1: like it. 2230 01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,600 Speaker 4: I was so excited about Hey wow, And I'm not 2231 01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:43,519 Speaker 4: saying it was like this conspiracy to let Paul Skan 2232 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:45,160 Speaker 4: start the All Star Game, but it was the right 2233 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,400 Speaker 4: decision to make because this guy's all the buzz and 2234 01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 4: baseball right now. 2235 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,360 Speaker 1: So let him start the freaking game. Who cares? And 2236 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:52,680 Speaker 1: then the next week. 2237 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna start the season in Japan, probably during 2238 01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 4: March madness while all of you are sleeping. 2239 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 1: Good luck. What a great line. You got it right 2240 01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:07,559 Speaker 1: back to wrong right that. Wow, that is tremendous right there. 2241 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 1: And that was off the cuff. I could tell you 2242 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,040 Speaker 1: practice beautiful. 2243 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, season form today, Brian Midas, I think you said 2244 01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,720 Speaker 2: it perfectly where I'm not against international play. I think 2245 01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,479 Speaker 2: a lot of it is cool. The London Series, oh yeah, 2246 01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:24,519 Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. Baseball has done that 2247 01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 2: a handful of years now. 2248 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:31,120 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. But the first game of the season. 2249 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,840 Speaker 2: You want to announce like the NFL does every year, 2250 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:39,599 Speaker 2: football is officially back. It's the defending champions and they're 2251 01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,599 Speaker 2: taking on a really good team, and you're gonna want 2252 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,559 Speaker 2: to see this matchup. It's on Thursday night, primetime. Boom, 2253 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,280 Speaker 2: let's freaking go. They don't say, ah, we're going to 2254 01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,400 Speaker 2: start in a foreign country. It's at you know, two am, 2255 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,280 Speaker 2: so only the die hards are gonna see it. That's 2256 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 2: just dumb because for baseball they want to have the 2257 01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,559 Speaker 2: message of we're back, but instead for two two seasons 2258 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,800 Speaker 2: in a row, most people they're not gonna see this 2259 01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:07,000 Speaker 2: initial game and guess what, the sun comes up the 2260 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,160 Speaker 2: next day. Life goes on and it plants the seed 2261 01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:14,679 Speaker 2: of oh I can miss games and life just keeps 2262 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,639 Speaker 2: going on. You don't want that at all. You want 2263 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,439 Speaker 2: them to get in the door. But this was awesome. 2264 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,680 Speaker 2: I want more. In baseball, they missed the mark on 2265 01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,040 Speaker 2: that for the first game of the year. If you're 2266 01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,600 Speaker 2: gonna have it in a foreign country, you've got to 2267 01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,240 Speaker 2: have it on in primetime where people are available to 2268 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,880 Speaker 2: watch it. And yeah, that's a bare minimum and they're 2269 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,200 Speaker 2: not even checking that box, like like. 2270 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:43,120 Speaker 3: Just make a comparison to a different business model, like 2271 01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,720 Speaker 3: where you have to make a choice whether you're going 2272 01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,800 Speaker 3: to cater better to your audience or you're going to 2273 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,960 Speaker 3: try to attract a new audience at the sacrifice of 2274 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,920 Speaker 3: catering to your initial audience. It's like in the restaurant industry, 2275 01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 3: all right, we have two choices, guys. We can we 2276 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,320 Speaker 3: can keep making delicious food for the people who we 2277 01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,360 Speaker 3: serve on a daily basis who are fans of this restaurant, 2278 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 3: or we can completely diminish the quality of the product, 2279 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,920 Speaker 3: of the food, of the service, and we can expand 2280 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,360 Speaker 3: to China or to Korea or to Japan, And yeah, 2281 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,840 Speaker 3: we will lose some consumers here, but if we offer 2282 01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,440 Speaker 3: a lower level of baseball for a limited time, or 2283 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,600 Speaker 3: or food or service for a limited time only on 2284 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:35,000 Speaker 3: foreign soil, we may attract more interest. I don't understand 2285 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 3: the business I just don't understand the business model, and 2286 01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,920 Speaker 3: I never will. It's never made sense to me. And 2287 01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:45,560 Speaker 3: maybe the novelty factor matters to certain people. It's never 2288 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,920 Speaker 3: mattered to me, but I don't know. Maybe that's the 2289 01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,320 Speaker 3: reason why I'm not a commissioner of a league, and 2290 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,120 Speaker 3: that's why all of these owners are billionaires, but you'd 2291 01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:53,400 Speaker 3: be a. 2292 01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:59,320 Speaker 1: Better user than most days. I think, I feel that's true. Yeah, Yeah, 2293 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 1: that's Rich Heornberger, Penn State, All American. 2294 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,600 Speaker 2: Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. 2295 01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:11,240 Speaker 2: Coming up next, Rapid Fire Picks. Okay, there's one of 2296 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 2: us that's just trying to improve upon last week. There 2297 01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,600 Speaker 2: are two of us that are trying to do the 2298 01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,800 Speaker 2: exact opposite. Is what happened last week? Well, if details 2299 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 2: for you, it is Fox Sports Saturday right here on 2300 01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here 2301 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,480 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew, our trusted producer, 2302 01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 2: Bo Benson, Chris Purfett, Technical producer extraordinaire. On the updates, 2303 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 2: Nick Cope crushing it, great job. Top of the hour 2304 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:43,000 Speaker 2: up on game here. My man Carrie Rhodes is in today, 2305 01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 2: very much looking forward to that. He'll have a He'll 2306 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:47,520 Speaker 2: take great care of you at the top of the hour. 2307 01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,480 Speaker 2: Just ten minutes away, ten little measly minutes away. 2308 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,080 Speaker 1: Hey, we got some picks to make. 2309 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:52,960 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 2310 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:56,920 Speaker 6: Rapid fire. 2311 01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:01,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, we start with you off a week went hot. 2312 01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:02,600 Speaker 1: What do you have for us. 2313 01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 4: Let's go and how about this, Speaking of red hot, 2314 01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:10,920 Speaker 4: the Nerfy yesterday went ten and three. Big time Nerfey day, 2315 01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,560 Speaker 4: first day back from the break, makes sense. Bat's a 2316 01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:15,920 Speaker 4: little sluggish. Let's see if it carries over today. We're 2317 01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,280 Speaker 4: gonna go Tigers, Blue Jays Nerfy. We talked about the 2318 01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,200 Speaker 4: Blue Jays before they had the streak back in May 2319 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,120 Speaker 4: and June. It was like twenty nine straight games without 2320 01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:23,280 Speaker 4: scoring a run in the first inning. 2321 01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:23,800 Speaker 1: Yikes. 2322 01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,680 Speaker 4: How about this rhes Olsen eighteen starts this year, he 2323 01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,879 Speaker 4: has not allowed to run on the first inning. 2324 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:30,720 Speaker 1: In any of them. 2325 01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,640 Speaker 4: Eighteen to o to the Nurfy goes against Kakuchi today 2326 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,400 Speaker 4: for the Blue Jays, We're going Nurfy in that game 2327 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,080 Speaker 4: late night Nurfy Seattle in Houston. These are two lower 2328 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,920 Speaker 4: scoring teams this year. Seattle didn't score at all last night. 2329 01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,040 Speaker 4: You got Framber Valdez George Kirby. Great pitching matchup tonight 2330 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,480 Speaker 4: late night in Seattle between two teams and the Aos. 2331 01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna go Nurfy there. I'm not gonna give you 2332 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,760 Speaker 4: a third Nerfy today. Instead, I'm gonna give you a 2333 01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,480 Speaker 4: money line because I think the Orioles are, you know, 2334 01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,600 Speaker 4: begging for a win today, So they're a slight favorite 2335 01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,120 Speaker 4: against the Rangers even though the have Max Schers are 2336 01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:01,600 Speaker 4: on the mountain. 2337 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,959 Speaker 1: Bullet Max shars are must have fallen on hard times. 2338 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,400 Speaker 4: Because the fact that the Orioles are a road favored 2339 01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,880 Speaker 4: against the Rangers with Max schers are on the mount 2340 01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:10,920 Speaker 4: des just how good Baltimore's been this year. 2341 01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:12,600 Speaker 1: So we'll give you Baltimore on the money line. 2342 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,520 Speaker 4: We'll give you Tiger's Blue Jays, Nerfy Astros Mariners, Nerfy, 2343 01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 4: Let's keep the straight going. 2344 01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:20,680 Speaker 3: Wow wow wow. Okay, so so far during the show, Jared, 2345 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,040 Speaker 3: in my mind have been on the same page when 2346 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,040 Speaker 3: it comes to our props and now with our rapid fire, 2347 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,080 Speaker 3: so I'm all Nerfy's today for the same reason you 2348 01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,160 Speaker 3: just mentioned slow bats coming out of the break, and 2349 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,840 Speaker 3: I either love the pitchers in these matchups or I 2350 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:38,520 Speaker 3: hate how the offenses are playing. So we'll dig in. 2351 01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 3: Nurfy Padres Guardians. We talked about Dylan Cees today, Nurfy Diamondbacks, 2352 01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 3: first Cubs. I love the pitching there also, Nurphy Astros Mariners. 2353 01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 3: We're on the same side of this one, so we're 2354 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,880 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to catch up with each other 2355 01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:57,680 Speaker 3: if we match there and lose the other two or 2356 01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,080 Speaker 3: win the other two. But it's fun to have a 2357 01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:06,040 Speaker 3: little synchronicity again, or what is it simpatico? 2358 01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:10,920 Speaker 2: Go Okay, I would just like to be known as 2359 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,200 Speaker 2: mister Summer League. 2360 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:16,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I have been crushing it. 2361 01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,480 Speaker 1: Now, picks will suck now that it's on rapid fire. 2362 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,680 Speaker 1: But oh man, I've done pretty well so far. 2363 01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean, a couple of days ago it could go south. 2364 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:29,360 Speaker 2: But give me tomorrow. Give me the Miami Heat. They 2365 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,200 Speaker 2: have been fantastic in Summer League. I'm gonna lay the 2366 01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,680 Speaker 2: three and a half against the Warriors. I think they 2367 01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:38,960 Speaker 2: get it done. I'm gonna stick the Summer League here 2368 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,040 Speaker 2: because I think the Clippers plus six and a half 2369 01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:44,360 Speaker 2: there's just too much value right there. Against the Grizzlies, 2370 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,280 Speaker 2: I think they at least keep it within six, So 2371 01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 2: I'll take the Clippers there. 2372 01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:52,360 Speaker 1: I would love to go baseball, but I'm so. 2373 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:58,400 Speaker 2: Intrigued with this WNBA versus the Team USA Little All 2374 01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:02,720 Speaker 2: Star game tonight. I'm looking at the first half. Give 2375 02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:06,480 Speaker 2: me Team USA minus four. I okay, okay, right, like 2376 02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 2: maybe they called the dogs off later you got a 2377 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,280 Speaker 2: lot of basketball left to be played. But for that 2378 02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:16,120 Speaker 2: first half with Caitlin and Angel Reese, I think the 2379 02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Vets say, you know what this is for the big 2380 02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:20,720 Speaker 2: dogs here right like. 2381 02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Moving up too, So taking that first half makes sense. 2382 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I might go all right, I'm hoping for nine to zero. 2383 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,480 Speaker 1: What do you say, know and break, Let's go