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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and
Speaker 2: Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 4: to rock today with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris
Speaker 4: Beam in the back on Kyle Yeomans and as I
Speaker 4: say it's an Isaiah show, he pops in with his
Speaker 4: Oakley's on his nose like the uncle at the barbecue
Speaker 4: hanging out doing his own.
Speaker 5: He's coming and dropping a.
Speaker 1: Bomb like, let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 4: You understand me?
Speaker 1: Who decided to have construction right off the exit? That's
Speaker 1: just a bad idea.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of construction with a lot of
Speaker 4: construc To be fair, he sent us a photo he
Speaker 4: let us. Know, Hey, look at where I was. You
Speaker 4: could see the star in the background and you were
Speaker 4: just stuck.
Speaker 1: In He does that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: I mean you come up one man to another major
Speaker 2: freeway and is backlogged. Some of the construction understands that.
Speaker 2: You're not used to it anymore. Being a citizen of Japan,
Speaker 2: You've been out there so long. Dual citizenship is a
Speaker 2: little it's awesome out there.
Speaker 4: You didn't take your helicopter like from Japan straight here.
Speaker 1: Listen that that's a long flight.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, how long is that flight?
Speaker 1: It was thirteen and a half there and eleven and
Speaker 1: a half back first class?
Speaker 2: You know how much of his class ticket and Japan,
Speaker 2: And that's why you bought one and left your in
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't pull a Kyle uh to me?
Speaker 1: You did this to me?
Speaker 6: Was no?
Speaker 1: I was sitting pretty much upright for the whole time.
Speaker 5: Oh, you didn't get your four centimeters of listen here.
Speaker 1: But I did have a good seat though. We're right
Speaker 1: by the bathroom.
Speaker 4: So on a flight like that you need it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You literally got back. When
Speaker 7: did you get back?
Speaker 1: I don't remember last week.
Speaker 2: Sometimes last got some time because I think my clock
Speaker 2: just like got reset last night.
Speaker 1: It took like my son is still jet like, well,
Speaker 1: he flew in.
Speaker 7: He landed last night at like eleven thirty from from
Speaker 7: well he had to connect the flight in New York.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so he left it and this is
Speaker 1: where the jet lag comes in.
Speaker 5: So in Japan too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all kind of yeah,
Speaker 5: didn't see each other.
Speaker 1: No, I saw like two people that look spotted really easy,
Speaker 1: real easy. Really was it hard? Brother? Now?
Speaker 7: But that's just like seriously, he left fright on Monday,
Speaker 7: seven thirty pm Japanese time.
Speaker 1: You're in the future.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he landed in New York Monday at seven thirty
Speaker 7: pm New York Times.
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, your Dan had to transfer to the connecting flight.
Speaker 1: Kind of cool. You're you're living in the future the
Speaker 1: whole time, like you're flying.
Speaker 2: When you're flying there, you're chasing let me see them
Speaker 2: running back on my way back here. You're chasing the
Speaker 2: sun on the way back over there. So we left
Speaker 2: at night, but we literally chased the sun and got
Speaker 2: here during the daytime. It's kind of weird, yeah, funky.
Speaker 1: Well, he's asleep right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, my kids, we've been waking up at one
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, wide awake.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Just I'm sure that's interesting. But I'm glad you had
Speaker 4: a great time.
Speaker 1: It was good time.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're back. What did you miss while you
Speaker 4: were back? I mean, I feel like it was coming on.
Speaker 1: Might have been a couple of things that happened along
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: I promise you always I was on my phone like
Speaker 2: this because it would be like twelve o'clock, you know,
Speaker 2: or midnight whatever, and I'm like wide away. But that's
Speaker 2: when all the nose is hidden. So I'm literally staying
Speaker 2: up on all of the free agent stuff. I'm staying
Speaker 2: up on how active of the Cowboys have been.
Speaker 4: Across the league. What's the most shocking news that you've
Speaker 4: seen so far across the league?
Speaker 2: Tuns Will getting traded? Okay, yeah, yeah, that was I
Speaker 2: mean we've talked about it.
Speaker 1: No, no, not at all.
Speaker 2: The thing is, like we've talked about it in the
Speaker 2: past in terms of how aggressive Philadelphia has been in
Speaker 2: the past, right, and how you know, how aggressive he
Speaker 2: is just to be able to make some of these
Speaker 2: the gall he has to make some of these phone calls.
Speaker 2: I think that the commanders were just as aggressive in
Speaker 2: regards to that, Like how do you call and say, yeah.
Speaker 1: Give me that guy? Yeah, Like what is it gonna take?
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be out of your mind, it's
Speaker 1: going to take at least four picks? Okay, what four picks?
Speaker 4: Oh, so we're having a conversation about this, like there's
Speaker 4: just certain p one of this league that you feel
Speaker 4: are untouchable, and he was one of them, and yet
Speaker 4: he was not untouchable, and they gave up a lot
Speaker 4: for him, but that was it was that important to them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I felt like Tuns at this
Speaker 2: point in his career was untouchable. Yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 2: kind of I don't think he's a starter.
Speaker 1: The time that what's the last time that that hall
Speaker 1: has been given up for a player?
Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I
Speaker 7: don't think that he was untouchable. No, no, for sure,
Speaker 7: I mean nobody's untouchable.
Speaker 2: Right, But when I started talking about an organization giving
Speaker 2: up what was it second, third, fourth, fifth, Yeah, something.
Speaker 4: Like that for him, A couple this year, a couple
Speaker 4: next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like two and two. Right, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was thick bruh.
Speaker 2: You hear about that stuff in basketball, right, but like
Speaker 2: football doesn't happen a ten, it doesn't happen a tonet
Speaker 2: lot might get two draft picks out of somebody.
Speaker 8: Four bro well, and I think a part of four
Speaker 8: mid round, like like right, like early mid round.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The part of that is that Washington's looking at
Speaker 4: their situation and they're ahead of schedule. When they were
Speaker 4: rebuilding last year, they had all this cap room and
Speaker 4: they were signing all these free agents out people across
Speaker 4: the board. They were saying, Okay, we'll see if this
Speaker 4: works out, but really we're going to try and build
Speaker 4: for twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. But then they
Speaker 4: go to an NFC title game. Your quarterback ends up
Speaker 4: being Jaden Daniels what he was as a rookie. Now
Speaker 4: you can say, okay, maybe we don't need the draft
Speaker 4: capital as much. Maybe because we're ahead of schedule, we
Speaker 4: have a roster that's good enough to compete. Let's try
Speaker 4: and shure up what we have and be better than
Speaker 4: we were last year. And that's exactly what they did
Speaker 4: with this. They said, you know what, maybe it isn't
Speaker 4: overpay to go get a Laomy Tunsel. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, it's going to sure up our left tackle spot.
Speaker 4: If he's healthy. He's still one of the top five
Speaker 4: best tackles in football. And that's what you went and got.
Speaker 4: And that's why it's going to take a lot, because
Speaker 4: great tackles in football. This organization should tell you. They
Speaker 4: don't grow on trees. They just don't come up out
Speaker 4: of nowhere. So, yeah, I could see how that's shocking.
Speaker 4: I think mine would still be Cincinnati cutting Hockinson or
Speaker 4: not Hockinson Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's happened.
Speaker 4: Yet did it happen?
Speaker 1: Well, as of yesterday it still did not. They were
Speaker 1: working on a contract. There's more working on the country.
Speaker 4: Okay, So then maybe not a shocking alf Maybe it
Speaker 4: was shocking the Cincinnati humble man. Just the rumor itself
Speaker 4: is I didn't realize that why would you not just
Speaker 4: extend him? I didn't realize how productive he has been.
Speaker 4: They I saw a stat this morning on one of
Speaker 4: the media affiliates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were talking about I mean, yeah, he bought
Speaker 2: last year, but when you look at the body of
Speaker 2: work from the sacks over there since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think they showed it was he has more sacks
Speaker 1: than Micah. Yeah, he's an animal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a dude.
Speaker 1: He's like just below Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: It's like Miles Garrett, him and Micah and Micah like
Speaker 4: one other.
Speaker 1: Person in there.
Speaker 7: Speaking of Miles, that was the other blockbuster. You go
Speaker 7: from demanding the trade and refuse to meet with the.
Speaker 5: Older, so we're gonna go try and with him.
Speaker 1: Super Cleveland, the big I didn't put my feet on
Speaker 1: his couch. Yeah, yeah, I put my feet on his couch.
Speaker 4: But I think that's that plays that plays to say.
Speaker 4: Edge rushers are premium and football. I mean that's part
Speaker 4: of it. If you get one, pay him, you should
Speaker 4: make him make it happen early. And and I think
Speaker 4: there's there's something to be said about that within his
Speaker 4: own organization. If hey, Miles Sanders or excuse me, Miles Garrett,
Speaker 4: Miles Sanders, we'll talk about him at allment. Miles Garrett says, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna move on, We're gonna have this. I need
Speaker 4: to be traded, and then Cleveland's like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no, let's work this out. Same thing with
Speaker 4: now TJ.
Speaker 8: Out there, and excellent leverage on his part too to
Speaker 8: write the letter thanking Cleveland to say, like I need
Speaker 8: to get out of here, give me sure.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was a leverage pool though, Like
Speaker 4: I don't believe I think he like he genuinely has
Speaker 4: some kind of connection and and and I don't know
Speaker 4: man honor with those guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, he he could have gotten that money from anybody.
Speaker 2: So I don't think I believe him when it says
Speaker 2: it was not about the money. He knows like I
Speaker 2: can go anywhere somebody, They're gonna pay me what I want.
Speaker 2: He genuinely wants to be in Cleveland.
Speaker 7: And the timing of his thank you letter was actually
Speaker 7: much better than the timing of another veteran pass rusher,
Speaker 7: but team Michael.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 4: Paying Jamar Chase out there, and sincey it's not gonna
Speaker 4: be easy to pay Trey Hendrickson though, Like you're paying
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and T Hankins and now you're paying Hendrickson.
Speaker 4: That's at the same time, that's.
Speaker 8: The biggest surprise for me is paying T Higgins on
Speaker 8: the top of Jamar Jay.
Speaker 1: That is crazy for of their entire U.
Speaker 5: They did for three players, that's.
Speaker 4: Wild Burrough, Chase, and Higgins. Yes, and they've got to
Speaker 4: pay Hendrickson. That's why they were trying to.
Speaker 1: Get rid of them.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into Cowboys news and notes. Though
Speaker 4: across the league a lot's been happening, but you could
Speaker 4: say the same in house. I want to go through
Speaker 4: the MC news.
Speaker 2: Pop it up for the Cowboys organization that because they've
Speaker 2: been active for they've been doing for being.
Speaker 7: Active, Well, we'll discuss, we'll talk about the levelout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've been active. We've asked for this and
Speaker 1: we've gotten. If we received, I still want more everybody's got.
Speaker 1: In comparison to last season, Yeah, in comparison every season.
Speaker 5: As applause, the last season, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean there was there's that's a low bar that's been
Speaker 4: set though, I mean I agree.
Speaker 8: So you're saying, but we were all saying last year
Speaker 8: that this off season was going to be even worse,
Speaker 8: even worse. Yeah, and that's has not been the case.
Speaker 8: I think there's more of a fire there to get
Speaker 8: things done.
Speaker 7: There's a healthy mix of well I don't know that
Speaker 7: it's a healthy mix, but there's a mix.
Speaker 1: There will be. It will be healthy if we get more,
Speaker 1: because I agree with you, I won't.
Speaker 7: But there is definitely a mix of deaf players and
Speaker 7: some camp bodies that you're like, okay, but then they
Speaker 7: handle business accordingly with a guy like Osa for example,
Speaker 7: but then you hate that that you know, cost you
Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis, but then you got Dante Fowler back stole
Speaker 7: him back from the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: So there's this mix of like yay kay, no, yay.
Speaker 4: So it is it's an up and down. It's a
Speaker 4: roller coaster. It's not as much of a roller coaster
Speaker 4: that you know how like those roller coasters go into
Speaker 4: the ground and there's like a tunnel that you go
Speaker 4: into and it's just darkness. That's what the twenty four
Speaker 4: off season was is you were in the darkness. Now
Speaker 4: at least you're on like a weird spiral face.
Speaker 8: And this is just after Jerry Jones a couple of
Speaker 8: weeks ago, after Zach Martin's retirement says we're not going
Speaker 8: to be using free agency to fill any holes. I
Speaker 8: think obviously you're seeing depth pieces in here that you
Speaker 8: would not.
Speaker 1: Said this before.
Speaker 7: Jerry knows what he's doing when he says things, and
Speaker 7: I don't know why why people consistently and continuous.
Speaker 4: So we said last week you believe them in the
Speaker 4: all in why are you believing him when he says
Speaker 4: nothing everything? I think I think when he said that,
Speaker 4: I think we all noticed he was referring to like
Speaker 4: big splashes. Yeah, like big money, which to this point
Speaker 4: would still rain true.
Speaker 1: The rest.
Speaker 7: I think he was one of two things, which the
Speaker 7: more likely thing is that he didn't want to show
Speaker 7: his hand to others, exactly to free agents that were
Speaker 7: out there or other teams that might bid against him
Speaker 7: to say, oh, the Cowboys, there's actually going to be there's.
Speaker 1: Too many holes to feel to not address it. Agree
Speaker 1: with free agency.
Speaker 2: So when he says that, I disregarded that aspect of
Speaker 2: the comment point and I took it as we're not
Speaker 2: going to spend big in free agency, which we know
Speaker 2: in which we hold has always been true. So I
Speaker 2: believe that portion of that statement right. And I think
Speaker 2: two things could be true from the same statement. And
Speaker 2: so when I hear Double Jay say, you know we're
Speaker 2: not gonna address in a free agency, all I hear
Speaker 2: is I'm not cutting the bag.
Speaker 4: So with that being said, I want to run down
Speaker 4: these these free agent signings and then I want to
Speaker 4: have a conversation for is it enough, because I'll argue
Speaker 4: that they haven't filled any holes in free agency yet?
Speaker 4: Oh none, any starting hole.
Speaker 1: Let's talk.
Speaker 4: But that's when I'm trying to talk. Disagree with that list,
Speaker 4: we'll go yeah, go ahead and go down the list though.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so it's a lot.
Speaker 4: It is last week.
Speaker 1: It is a lot.
Speaker 5: Taking out anybody in there.
Speaker 7: I'm just going to go straight down. I'm gonna use it.
Speaker 7: Do it now, go for the Jersey list. So Dante
Speaker 7: Fowler one ye, Thomas, he was secure, he was a
Speaker 7: r f A with security. Let's see Kayer Elim via trade,
Speaker 7: Miles Sanders via free agency, Javonte Williams, Jack Sanborn, Kenneth
Speaker 7: Murray via trade, uh, Robert Jones, Paris Campbell, Salomon Thomas,
Speaker 7: Peyton Turner, who am I forgetting? They resigned Rob Jones Williams,
Speaker 7: I said, I did say Rob Jones. And as another note,
Speaker 7: alongside Osa, they did extend Cavante Turpin on a three
Speaker 7: year deal, which was also my chef kiss so sprink
Speaker 7: a little key things like that, and so.
Speaker 1: Down the list. This is what I mean when I say.
Speaker 7: There are players that you'd love to see in this
Speaker 7: free agency edition list. Dante Fowler. I can't love it enough.
Speaker 7: I can't love it enough. And as much as he's
Speaker 7: he's but I thought he.
Speaker 1: Was a d Q guy.
Speaker 4: Dude, he was a d Q since college, and I think.
Speaker 7: That he has a chip on his shoulder now against
Speaker 7: d Q. That coming he made on Twitter about enough
Speaker 7: with the disrespect. I can't take it anymore. And then
Speaker 7: he defects from DQ and comes back to Dallas. I
Speaker 7: think he's he's trying to prove it.
Speaker 1: He had his best year in like a long time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, something happening, and a half something happened in these
Speaker 7: past few weeks up.
Speaker 5: There, his most year.
Speaker 1: But I think that that made him sense disrespected he
Speaker 1: was with the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's because he wants to be
Speaker 7: the full time starter or pay is not commensurate. I
Speaker 7: don't know, but he feels disrespected and keep that energy.
Speaker 7: Paris Campbell being on the opposite side of the spectrum
Speaker 7: when you talk about Paris Campbell met him yesterday. A
Speaker 7: great guy, great family guy, had his family up here
Speaker 7: with him. Fantastic looking family. You saw him as well, Coyle,
Speaker 7: and I'm all for fresh starts, but objectively speaking, when
Speaker 7: you look at his resume, you have to wonder what
Speaker 7: the contribution is versus the need. So this is why
Speaker 7: I agree with Kyle in that I don't see that
Speaker 7: Paris Campbe as we're having this conversation, did anything to
Speaker 7: answer the.
Speaker 1: WR two question.
Speaker 7: No, okay, But I disagree with Kyle in the aspect
Speaker 7: of I do see where Dante Fowler helps you with
Speaker 7: the defensive end question.
Speaker 4: Oh, it helps you with the defensive end.
Speaker 7: Right, And then you talk about somebody like Jack Sanborne,
Speaker 7: what is he he coming in and do Kenneth Murray?
Speaker 7: He wants to be he wants to be the guy.
Speaker 7: But okay, fine, so let's let's say Murray shows some
Speaker 7: real things. Sure, I want to wholeheartedly believe Samborne is
Speaker 7: going to be a problem for opposing offenses. So for me,
Speaker 7: I think that fills the need, especially with demarve On
Speaker 7: going to miss some a chunk of time. Put Merrist
Speaker 7: at Green Dot, you let him work with Samborne. Sanborn
Speaker 7: is basically as it stands here, Eric Kendrick's replacement. I
Speaker 7: think Samborn feels a void. So for me, Dante Fowler,
Speaker 7: Jack Samborne, I think those are the two that stand
Speaker 7: out the most for me as far as the additions go.
Speaker 7: And Solomon Thomas Solomon Thomas. I wrote a science lab
Speaker 7: on Solomon Thomas. Go check that out on the dot com,
Speaker 7: basically saying, why Osa is going to love Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 7: Osa saw a career high in snaps last season, and
Speaker 7: if you want him to remain arguably the most durable
Speaker 7: guy and playing at that level right and playing at
Speaker 7: that level, you're going to have to turn his stat now.
Speaker 1: And Solomon Thomas helps with that.
Speaker 7: So Thomas Fowler, Jack Samborne, for me, that's a three
Speaker 7: pack of wins for me.
Speaker 5: What about Murray as far as starting, as far.
Speaker 7: As starting as we as we talk saying I think
Speaker 7: that's the Sam Boyne Merriston. Then if you're going sell
Speaker 7: package or you want to run.
Speaker 4: I completely disagree with, completely disagree. I think Sambourne instead
Speaker 4: of being your let's take our first break. Okay, this
Speaker 4: is where the conversation starts. I think they've made moves
Speaker 4: that had helped, that have helped you up top for
Speaker 4: a certain reason, I still think there's a lot left
Speaker 4: uncovered and they're still working toward that, and it may
Speaker 4: only come in the NFL draft. I'll talk about that
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Speaker 7: Joining by way of Isaiah directly from Japan. Sponsor to
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Speaker 1: Man. He went and brought me a kekerot.
Speaker 4: How about that? He's even on your computer here too.
Speaker 1: Oh, they don't know. I don't know if y'all know.
Speaker 1: I look at that every Yes, that's what literally engraved
Speaker 1: in my head. I got a game, baby, anim a nerd.
Speaker 1: It's not a game. There you go, those who know.
Speaker 4: No. And Isaiah brought me these Oakleys. I don't know
Speaker 4: if they're like I know they're having them pro shot.
Speaker 5: There's he gave me a free membership to stetfaster that part.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Glad to have Isaiah back because we can have conversations
Speaker 4: about this team and kind of the player background too.
Speaker 4: And I'm interested for you to hit the film on
Speaker 4: what you see from these guys. And I know you're
Speaker 4: trying to adjust back to real civilization, Western civilization on
Speaker 4: this side of the globe. But when it comes to
Speaker 4: the additions here, I like what they've done. Let me
Speaker 4: preface with that. I like what they've done because they're
Speaker 4: addressing depth and that's something they have really struggled with
Speaker 4: in the past, and that's why an off season like
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four hurts you as badly as it did.
Speaker 5: Oh All, You're doub's gone.
Speaker 4: You're relying on rookies, you're relying on undrafted free agents,
Speaker 4: You're relying on guys that hadn't panned out previously to
Speaker 4: finally pan out. And that's ultimately what helped be the
Speaker 4: downfall in twenty twenty four. They're adding veteran presence, whether
Speaker 4: it be a joke because they are multiple first round picks,
Speaker 4: these five first round picks that they've added, I'm cool
Speaker 4: with that because there's talent there, there's a communication aspect
Speaker 4: there that they've already had the conversations with these guys
Speaker 4: back whenever they were possibilities in the NFL draft. Kenneth
Speaker 4: Murray was a thirty visit. Peyton Turner was a piece,
Speaker 4: a player of interest, a prospect of interest back in
Speaker 4: his draft time too. I mean, all of these guys
Speaker 4: were significant targets for the Cowboys. But when I look
Speaker 4: up and down the depth chart right now, I don't
Speaker 4: see one move other than Dante Faller Junior. Let me
Speaker 4: preface with that, and Dante Fowler Junior is still going
Speaker 4: to be a rotational edge rusher.
Speaker 1: Let's not.
Speaker 4: He's not taking snaps away from Micah Parsons. That's playing simple.
Speaker 4: He's going to play opposite of Micah. It'll be a
Speaker 4: conversation between him, Sam Williams and Marshawn neland those are
Speaker 4: kind of the three other guys at the edge rusher spot.
Speaker 4: Peyton Turner could possibly get in that rotation too. We'll
Speaker 4: see what happens there. Rob Jones is a backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: Kenneth Murray and Kyer Elam I think both have the
Speaker 4: best opportunity to start in terms of the defense, and
Speaker 4: that's mostly because of the need at corner and because
Speaker 4: of the need at linebacker, And both of those were trades,
Speaker 4: they weren't free agent signings. So when I'm looking at
Speaker 4: this list of guys in free agent signings, I like
Speaker 4: what they've done, and I think they've addressed the back
Speaker 4: half of the roster. But I need more that's gonna
Speaker 4: be a possible starter up front. I need more that's
Speaker 4: gonna be a definite starter up front. Like what are
Speaker 4: we doing at the defensive tackle spot?
Speaker 1: Are we just cool with.
Speaker 4: Mazi Smith and osa igezu a running one and three? Again?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they're cool with that. I don't know if
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that. Is Jack Sambord, who's never had
Speaker 4: more than sixty three tackles in his career sixty five tackles,
Speaker 4: I think sixty five tackles in his career. Is he
Speaker 4: gonna be your Eric Kendrick's replacement. I think he's more
Speaker 4: of a Nick Vigial replacement. He's gonna play some secondhand linebacker.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a special team guy as well. He's
Speaker 4: gonna play some snaps. Don't get me wrong, but he's
Speaker 4: never been that guy. And just because he's had a
Speaker 4: conversation with iber Flus previously doesn't necessarily give me the
Speaker 4: confidence that he will continue to be that guy.
Speaker 5: You're hoping that the relationship with the coaching staff.
Speaker 4: Killbates the hedge of Yeah, Kenneth Murray has had two
Speaker 4: seasons already of over one hundred tackles in his career.
Speaker 4: I think there's a better chance, especially without the Marvin Overstrown,
Speaker 4: that he's in that rotation at linebacker more so than
Speaker 4: a Jack Sanborn. I'd love for those guys to kind
Speaker 4: of share snaps. But that's the thing is, we're not
Speaker 4: getting guys here that are saying I demand snaps. We're saying, oh,
Speaker 4: they're going to share snaps here, Miles Sanders, Dravonte Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Rob Jones is going to be a backup. All of
Speaker 4: these guys are depth.
Speaker 1: Who are we not expecting on day one of the
Speaker 1: opening season.
Speaker 4: With injuries, Yeah, Marvin Overstrown, Diggs probably.
Speaker 1: That would be back.
Speaker 7: Deak told me unequivocally that he'll be ready for Yeah.
Speaker 7: So basically big name, oh and less of a big
Speaker 7: name but likely still Josh Josh Butler.
Speaker 4: Probably all injuries are you thinking and guys that have
Speaker 4: Diggs is probably and.
Speaker 7: Likely Josh Butler as well. Those are the ones that
Speaker 7: come to mind right now. And I mean speaking of
Speaker 7: Trayvon and Josh Butler. This is where I agree with
Speaker 7: Kyle again, what have you done to address the really
Speaker 7: addressed to need at cornerback? Because I get Elam and
Speaker 7: you want a first start with Elam and everything, But
Speaker 7: for me, as far as moving the needle towards saying okay,
Speaker 7: well that that problem is.
Speaker 4: Solved, who's your starting no.
Speaker 7: And problem is still not solved for me because Kayln
Speaker 7: Carson is coming off the shoulder injury. He's expected to
Speaker 7: be ready, but we don't know if he's going to
Speaker 7: start training cap on.
Speaker 1: Puplisht or not, but we'll see.
Speaker 7: But even if he is healthy, he has to go
Speaker 7: back through a rookie learning curve type deal because he
Speaker 7: missed half the season and he had an up and
Speaker 7: down season when he was on the field. You lose
Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis. I cannot stress enough Isaiah. We talked about
Speaker 7: this and I saw you lamenting online about it, just
Speaker 7: that we were That was a massive loss and I
Speaker 7: just hope the Cowboys don't find out the hard weight
Speaker 7: just how big of a loss that was. But who's
Speaker 7: feeling jay Lou's spot? No one right, So, right now,
Speaker 7: as we have this conversation talking about cornerback, Trayvon is
Speaker 7: likely to miss some time to start the season, and
Speaker 7: you don't have a definitive boundary corner that you're ready
Speaker 7: to start and say he can play even remotely close
Speaker 7: to the level of Trayvon Diggs. And in addition to that,
Speaker 7: a by the way, look inside and you don't know
Speaker 7: what did jay Lou's successive situations look like.
Speaker 1: I think they're in dire straits.
Speaker 8: Because he's the best of Kaalen Carson either. I think
Speaker 8: there's a chance for him, if he's back from his
Speaker 8: shoulder injury, to give us one of.
Speaker 7: Those fair but then throw in, you know, Josh Butler
Speaker 7: likely not being ready for week one. We'll see if
Speaker 7: that's the case, but assume that he won't be again.
Speaker 7: I think this cornerback room is in dire straits, which
Speaker 7: is why moving to the draft portion of it, I
Speaker 7: think that And we talked about this when we lost Jaylu.
Speaker 1: When the Cowboys lost Jailu.
Speaker 7: First thing I said it was, well, cornerback just became
Speaker 7: part of the number twelve conversation, hun.
Speaker 5: Because Kyrie Elam does not solve your problem. Quarterback really doesn't.
Speaker 8: And even as far as durability goes, it's like he
Speaker 8: hasn't been as durable through his short career so far.
Speaker 8: Granted he's in a better scheme that a scheme that
Speaker 8: fits better to his strengths.
Speaker 7: Yeah, his durability is going to be before you mentioned,
Speaker 7: a few people have said it in the chat, and
Speaker 7: clearly you guys have been following talking Cowboys a while
Speaker 7: because we said it last week as well.
Speaker 1: You could help resolve that.
Speaker 7: You go and get a guy like a Santi Samuel, Yeah, example,
Speaker 7: So we'll talk about in the next segment top three
Speaker 7: gents available.
Speaker 1: We agree with you there.
Speaker 4: Do you guys have any insight as to why the
Speaker 4: Cowboys opted not to sign jaylu.
Speaker 7: Back They just got out bid. Yeah, they wanted them,
Speaker 7: they made the offer, they just got out bid. And
Speaker 7: when you look at it from a Jay lou standpoint,
Speaker 7: he's earned the most years that he can earn them
Speaker 7: the contract. So if the Cowboys, I don't know the
Speaker 7: specifics of the contract. I know it was a multi
Speaker 7: year offer, but I don't know if it was three
Speaker 7: or if it was two. Cowboys typically like their two's
Speaker 7: and two year deals for cap management purposes, but as
Speaker 7: far as the dollars are concerned, they got edged out
Speaker 7: by the jab Boys.
Speaker 8: And Jordan Lewis even said in his press conference that
Speaker 8: I can't take any more team friendly deals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's done that, he's done it, and he more
Speaker 5: than deserving.
Speaker 7: It was time for him to get his bag and
Speaker 7: I was hoping it was here highest paid nickel in
Speaker 7: the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for like it was two hours game.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when he when he signed the dealer agreed
Speaker 4: to the deal, he was the highest paid nicole in
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 1: So him being going, I mean who you got? Who
Speaker 1: you got?
Speaker 5: That hurts Bron sucks.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 12: I don't know how.
Speaker 7: I don't know if the general that's as mistigable a
Speaker 7: loss as retaining Osa is a win.
Speaker 8: And that was the question that we had coming into
Speaker 8: the office. Earth, Yeah, which one, which one would you rather?
Speaker 8: I was like, yes or Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 4: I asked the questions because I know it's a hypothetical,
Speaker 4: but it could happen. And that's what happened.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what happened. Yeah, you had the opportunity to.
Speaker 4: We had that in like week sixteen. It was like
Speaker 4: week sixteen or seventeen. The season wasn't even over yet,
Speaker 4: and we were having that conversation and sure enough, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
Speaker 5: It was a unanimous OSA, but I think I think.
Speaker 1: You were on.
Speaker 4: I was, yeah, you were J Lou, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, but I was like J Lou,
Speaker 1: there's less, there's less Jay losing there are, right, But.
Speaker 7: It would losing J Lou for me would have keeping
Speaker 7: J Lou and losing OSA it would have had the
Speaker 7: same level of to me because again, and we've had
Speaker 7: this conversation, I built my defense from right. So you
Speaker 7: lose an impact defensive tackle, especially considering you don't know
Speaker 7: what Mazi's going to be this year and you talk
Speaker 7: about you still need more bodies up front, lose OSA
Speaker 7: and and see exactly what dire straits looks like.
Speaker 5: If you think the line is bad now as far
Speaker 5: as like defending the run.
Speaker 7: Right, and that was you lose on top of that right,
Speaker 7: and that means you would have lost OSA before you
Speaker 7: ended up losing the Marcus Lawrence as well, like your
Speaker 7: mind would be in shambles, right, losing J Lou.
Speaker 1: For me, it's I don't want to lose either. You
Speaker 1: lost one. What can you lost? Inside?
Speaker 2: You lost your nickel and not just nickel. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: lost arguably the best. Yeah, the arguably the nickel in
Speaker 2: the league. He also can play outside. I agree, right,
Speaker 2: and he is willing and able to have run support. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they hear me what I'm saying, don't they don't make
Speaker 2: them like that. I want it both, I hear losing
Speaker 2: either one is a kicking the I.
Speaker 1: Think it's always more difficult for the Cowboys to fill
Speaker 1: that void. Well, now you have cornerback.
Speaker 7: Going back to what Cale say, you got as far
Speaker 7: as voids you need to be filled, you got cornerback,
Speaker 7: huge void, wide receiver to still avoid defensive tackle. I
Speaker 7: love adding Solomon Thomas as rotations.
Speaker 1: And huge void, huge void alongside Mazi at one tech void?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who else is your one tech right now?
Speaker 1: Right? Is the running back problem solved now? Solt?
Speaker 2: You guys know where I stand on that. I am
Speaker 2: perfectly fine with where the're at with running back right now?
Speaker 2: You are, I'm perfectly fine with reiterate for those Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't see you J yeah. So yeah, for the
Speaker 2: people who were not pre Japan conversation, I was on
Speaker 2: the court of there are a lot of very capable
Speaker 2: running backs in the league. Yea that they As long
Speaker 2: as you're not fumbling the rock and as long as
Speaker 2: you're willing and able to block, you're a good running
Speaker 2: back in this league.
Speaker 1: There's just a ton of them. There's a ton of them. Right,
Speaker 1: we talked about Rico.
Speaker 2: Rico didn't have his opportunity, and then as soon as
Speaker 2: he got his opportunity, boom, thousand yards. Right, And it
Speaker 2: wasn't even a great offensive running year for the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: and he still got a thousand yards. And everybody's gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: it's easy to get a thousand yards now with seventeen games.
Speaker 1: Missed it sixteen He missed me with that conversation. Actually
Speaker 1: did it in fifty Yeah, yes, so miss me with
Speaker 1: the conversation.
Speaker 2: Rico got his opportunity, he bought out why because he's
Speaker 2: a good running back, and just like there's a bunch
Speaker 2: of good running backs in this league that just don't
Speaker 2: get their opportunities. So I am okay with what the
Speaker 2: Cowboys have done at the running back position. You have
Speaker 2: a power running back. You have a you have a
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders who hopefully can rekindle himself. You still got
Speaker 2: deuce Von back there, and you still got Leak right,
Speaker 2: So so you wouldn't draft run I.
Speaker 1: Know, No, I was never on board with that. Remember
Speaker 1: I wanted a receiver. Oh no, I know, I'm heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was.
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 4: I'm never unless you No, they're gonna draft for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Let me let me you're still on running backs still,
Speaker 4: I'm still on it, not for the voids that you have.
Speaker 4: I'm still on I'm not only on it.
Speaker 1: Tit.
Speaker 4: They're going to draft running back, but maybe not at
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna do it at twelve.
Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is I'm not out on it. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think too well, I mean fair, but if so,
Speaker 1: just to be it's ast genty at twelve. Are you mad? Mad?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. Are you bothered? Are you I am?
Speaker 1: Let's not say that's the term I'm looking for. Are
Speaker 1: you disappointed? That's a strong word.
Speaker 2: I I believe that if they picked Genty at twelve,
Speaker 2: I think that you've missed out on the opportunity to
Speaker 2: fill voids, probably because you don't have void at running back.
Speaker 4: But you would like to be better at running back.
Speaker 4: You would like to be better at every position on
Speaker 4: your team or your view, right, but you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not. It's not a void, right, you have actual voids.
Speaker 4: So where we address classify avoid wide receiver too. Okay,
Speaker 4: so wide receiver two?
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 4: Is there anything else?
Speaker 1: Golden Corner?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Corner, absolutely, Yeah, Okay, you were just resigned some
Speaker 4: guys that you're like, you're still waiting and they're in
Speaker 4: the second contract.
Speaker 1: You come off of defensive end now that you got
Speaker 1: Dante at twelve. Yeah, absolutely. I was never on board
Speaker 1: with that that I agree with.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I come off of defensive end at twelve because
Speaker 7: Dante's back free Dante. I was like, it was still
Speaker 7: in the conversation. So I agree with you all that.
Speaker 4: I think it's still in the conversation. I love Dante
Speaker 4: Feller Junior, but I still think, yeah, what they give.
Speaker 1: Him six, I think it gives you want more.
Speaker 4: It's a short deal and you don't know what the
Speaker 4: situation is right this second, as we sit here on
Speaker 4: March eighteenth, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, then
Speaker 4: you don't know what the situation is moving forward with Micah, and.
Speaker 8: You also saw what happened to your defensive line when
Speaker 8: you lost crucial players at that posh.
Speaker 5: No, I think your defense is broken after that.
Speaker 7: They're going to foregoing conclusion. In my opinion, they're going
Speaker 7: to draft a defensive end. I'm saying that I would
Speaker 7: be with the return of Dante. I'm fine with it
Speaker 7: if that becomes a second or third round situation.
Speaker 4: Instead of verse first. I still think there's a chance
Speaker 4: they go first round with anyone across the table outside
Speaker 4: of quarterback. Quarterbacks the one position where I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: they're not doing it, doing what any other position they
Speaker 4: could do it.
Speaker 7: I think why offense is going to take president because
Speaker 7: I think if you look at these free agency additions,
Speaker 7: it's been the bulk of it. It's been defense. Okay,
Speaker 7: Offense is where you really have that void. So if
Speaker 7: it were me, I'm looking at running back or wide
Speaker 7: receiver as like my top two, and then I'm peeking
Speaker 7: over at the cornerbacks to see who's there versus which.
Speaker 2: One of the one preference though you want to run
Speaker 2: it back over the if the running back is gent
Speaker 2: the running back has to be Gentiet.
Speaker 4: You don't like the Carolina running back Mary Hampton. I
Speaker 4: love Hampton, not at twelve. He was mocked morning to
Speaker 4: the Cowboys by at twelve. Yeah, okay, so he would
Speaker 4: be rich for me?
Speaker 1: Right for Hampton, it's a trade back and get scenario.
Speaker 4: Or forty four. But I don't think you may oh right,
Speaker 4: but no not.
Speaker 7: I'm not in on Hampton at twelve, but I am
Speaker 7: one hundred percent in on Hampton after twelve. I'm one
Speaker 7: hundred percent in on genty at twelve. But if gent
Speaker 7: is gone and I'm talking Hampton later, if Ted McMillan,
Speaker 7: for example, or Golden, I think Golden is a slight
Speaker 7: trade back and get. But in that window, then I'm
Speaker 7: looking at a tech McMillan, or I'm looking at a
Speaker 7: Golden from Texas or something.
Speaker 1: Would you trade up for Travis Hunter?
Speaker 4: No, that's a lot of capital.
Speaker 1: Did I You'd have to answer that fest.
Speaker 5: Enough, But it kind of feels too is it?
Speaker 4: Two voids me? It's interesting and it would sell a
Speaker 4: lot of jerseys, and I wouldn't. If you're talking about
Speaker 4: a risk, you're talking about getting back to risky Jerry.
Speaker 4: That's the type of risk A nice game. That's the
Speaker 4: type of risk.
Speaker 1: You know what, That's what I would do. Kyle and
Speaker 1: I talked about this. I think it was off the air.
Speaker 7: The beauty of Travis Hunter is he gives you two
Speaker 7: positions and start two positions. The downside of that is
Speaker 7: if he gets injured, you're down two positions.
Speaker 4: Where do you go? Yeah, you're down two players, down
Speaker 4: two players. You know, like you kind of have to
Speaker 4: head your bet with whoever's gonna end up with travel.
Speaker 1: Saying you gotta admit that's the case. If I go
Speaker 1: up and get he's my He's my new Nickel. That's
Speaker 1: that's what he is for me.
Speaker 4: And he he's gonna he will hop out a receiver,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna put the most athletic guy. He's gonna
Speaker 4: lock down your slot. Yeah, that's what I'm doing there.
Speaker 4: But that that Nickel.
Speaker 7: As you know that Nickel is the most physical of
Speaker 7: the of the cornerback spots. Keeping in mind you need
Speaker 7: him durable full wide receiver to duties that the wide.
Speaker 1: Receiver is a gift.
Speaker 5: Do you need him available a wide receiver because.
Speaker 1: He's a gift right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you're gonna trade up.
Speaker 1: Just talked about it being a huge void. So you're
Speaker 1: going to trade up to get him. You need, yes,
Speaker 1: like he has to help you at the w R
Speaker 1: two like he has to.
Speaker 5: I don't think he plays w R two though I
Speaker 5: really don't.
Speaker 1: Number one. Let's be clear.
Speaker 7: You think he's not coming to think because of the
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Speaker 1: Okay, is Mossnaire good? Either?
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Speaker 4: back of Kyle Yeomans. All right, scenario for Travis Hunter. Well,
Speaker 4: you thinking, let's start just cook something up here.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of things.
Speaker 4: Okay, 's have some fun. Fun have you guys?
Speaker 2: If you guys want to stay at twelve, go get
Speaker 2: a receiver, Go get it to go get a sure
Speaker 2: thing wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And you know the receivers better than any.
Speaker 4: So you're if you're telling me you're draft and a
Speaker 4: receiver at twelve. There three dames, okay, Teed McMillan Arizona,
Speaker 4: that would be my number one name. Luther Burden out
Speaker 4: of Missouri that would be my number two name, and
Speaker 4: then number three would be Matthew Golden out of Texas.
Speaker 4: That would be the three names at twelve. That could
Speaker 4: be a possibility.
Speaker 1: There you go, So go grab your go grab your receiver.
Speaker 5: If you stay at twelve, and would you take all
Speaker 5: of them at twelve?
Speaker 4: I would trade back for Burden or Golden if they
Speaker 4: were the pick at twelve, I think I would be okay,
Speaker 4: but I would rather try and trade back if it's McMillan.
Speaker 4: If it's if it's McMillan picking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, McMillan's twelve if it's if nobody's come on, man, there's.
Speaker 4: Some some weird draft hullabluo right now that we're trying
Speaker 4: to have to sort through. Is why is Teed McMillan
Speaker 4: falling today? He was in twenty in both mel Kiper's
Speaker 4: mock draft and in Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft. What is
Speaker 4: that same spot?
Speaker 8: Is that one of the situations where it's like, oh,
Speaker 8: this guy's just been consistent the whole way, maybe, and
Speaker 8: now we're talking about it.
Speaker 4: He may end up at six to Las Vegas and
Speaker 4: we don't even have a chance at him at twelve,
Speaker 4: But right now, as it seems, it looks like there's
Speaker 4: a chance he falls. Same kind of thing happened with
Speaker 4: CD though, where it was like CD's far and away.
Speaker 4: I mean, they had Jerry Judy, they had Henry Ruggs
Speaker 4: in that draft, and there were a couple different options
Speaker 4: there where you looked at it and said, there might
Speaker 4: be a chance CD falls to seventeen, but it doesn't
Speaker 4: look like that's gonna happen. Sure enough, he did. He
Speaker 4: actually did fall. That hullabaloo was real, and then he
Speaker 4: ended up at seventeen. Same kind of thing could happen,
Speaker 4: and it's a lot less of a drop now for
Speaker 4: Teed to fall to Dallas, I would be okay with Burden.
Speaker 4: I would be okay with Golden. You're suring up your
Speaker 4: wide receiver two spot, but I would rather trade back
Speaker 4: and do the same thing.
Speaker 2: All right, So Kyle, you picked the number two receiver,
Speaker 2: but number twelve grab a receiver. If you don't stay
Speaker 2: at twelve and you want to get a little frisk kid, how.
Speaker 1: High do you have to go? You gotta go top three,
Speaker 1: top three? Yeah, so privately top three, So I mean
Speaker 1: pull a trigger off. I'm going to do it. Hey, listen, No,
Speaker 1: I want to hear you. Okay, Yeah, so go get
Speaker 1: you Travis Hunter and then sign. You gotta give up
Speaker 1: some stuff. I don't know, y'all figure out who, but
Speaker 1: you gotta give up.
Speaker 4: Give it to be probably to first in a second.
Speaker 7: Correct, Because the totality of the remaining remainder of your
Speaker 7: picks this year, based upon the Jimmy Johnson value tart
Speaker 7: only amounts to about before the trades only amount of
Speaker 7: two about seven hundred and ninety let's say eight hundred
Speaker 7: yeah points.
Speaker 1: Okay, you need to make up a three thousand point difference.
Speaker 4: That's a lot, which would be now.
Speaker 7: You're talking mortgageing your future, so you are talking multiple
Speaker 7: first round pick everybody. Yeah so, and you might even
Speaker 7: have to at this point, might even have to player.
Speaker 7: So we say all this to say it's not happening.
Speaker 7: But I want to hear.
Speaker 2: If you can go get you at Travis Huner. Either way,
Speaker 2: I would still like them to decide. Keenan Allen like,
Speaker 2: I still want them to do that. That's what I want.
Speaker 2: If you're not going to get a solid Cup is gone.
Speaker 2: That was my hope for not he went back home?
Speaker 4: My game, you want to go back never really interested?
Speaker 1: That's all good, But I think that he's a perfect
Speaker 1: fit here, but not anymore especially so.
Speaker 5: But if Schefter tells you any different, I come on.
Speaker 4: That was a win for the local media, by the way,
Speaker 4: because the local media was the whole time and they're like,
Speaker 4: they're not interested in Cup. They're not interested in Cup,
Speaker 4: they're not interested in Cup. And then Schefter took something
Speaker 4: from an agent and was like, oh, they're interested in Cup.
Speaker 4: Mystery team here they are. It's Seattle and Dallas. That
Speaker 4: was a ploy to try and get more.
Speaker 1: I just say. They were like, we're not interested.
Speaker 4: Soon as I figured out that he was available, and
Speaker 4: I was like, I hope that he comes to Dallas
Speaker 4: because I think it's been a very long time since
Speaker 4: DA's had a true possession receiver.
Speaker 5: It would have been fun, but the price was too high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, but but I would still like
Speaker 1: for them to go get Keenan Allen.
Speaker 4: It's a possession guy.
Speaker 7: There are plenty of Coupboys fans who grew Can he run?
Speaker 7: Give An Allen point, Keenan Allen point.
Speaker 4: Canny run. That's what I'm That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 4: Is Canny run.
Speaker 1: Well, that was that was the concern with with cup same.
Speaker 4: Thing, same thing, Canny run.
Speaker 1: I'm not draft one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, possibly, I think you're going to see I mean Dallas.
Speaker 7: I would insurance is good, which which to me if
Speaker 7: you look at the running back position kind of circling
Speaker 7: back to my where I where I differ from Isaiah
Speaker 7: on the running back position is I don't feel like
Speaker 7: it's solved completely.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 7: I do believe they have insurance against what may or
Speaker 7: may not happen in the draft first couple of rounds
Speaker 7: insurance is a very good work, right, But if you look.
Speaker 2: At remind me what season it was. But I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about twenty sixteen. Hell, what am I talking about?
Speaker 7: They had, you got Derren mcfatten, You went and got
Speaker 7: Alfred Morris. You still had wasn't Randall? I believe Randall
Speaker 7: was still on the roster at that time.
Speaker 13: Was he?
Speaker 1: I believe? So that was the final time, I believe you.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, they had plenty of.
Speaker 7: Veteran talent that could have had them say, you know
Speaker 7: what we're not We're not using a premium pick on
Speaker 7: a running back. And what they do fourth overall drafted
Speaker 7: Ezekiel Elliott Ze.
Speaker 2: So when I'm looking at the addition of Miles Sanders
Speaker 2: and Javonte Williams and yeah, they got Deuce, but he's
Speaker 2: still unproving. They haven't shown they know how to use
Speaker 2: him yet, much to our chagrin, but they just haven't.
Speaker 2: Hunter Lipkey hasn't consistently been given the opportunities for us
Speaker 2: to know what he can be. I just don't think
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders editions turns them off of
Speaker 2: an Astra Gente or even a Hampton. Maybe shortly after twelve,
Speaker 2: we're in the second round.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 7: I just I believe a premium pick is still in play.
Speaker 7: And then afterwards they revisit the room, even if it's
Speaker 7: not until training cap and just look at all those
Speaker 7: guys and say, okay, go fight it out. Knowing the
Speaker 7: draft pick is safe, knowing that Hunter Lipkey is safe,
Speaker 7: I'll go ahead and stand on that hill. I believe
Speaker 7: Hunter Lipky is safe. And then you look at Dus,
Speaker 7: You look at Deuce Miles and Javonte, say, two of
Speaker 7: you guys are staying.
Speaker 1: One of you guys are not keeping mind. Malik Davis
Speaker 1: is also going to be in that mix as well.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 7: So, I just I don't feel like these moves put
Speaker 7: them out, which means to me it is a void
Speaker 7: still existing.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at my spreadsheet, my draft spreadsheet, and I've
Speaker 4: got eight names. I'm not going to divulge which name
Speaker 4: is which. But out of the eight names, six of
Speaker 4: them have met formally with the Cowboys during the draft process.
Speaker 4: Six of the eight running backs top eight running backs,
Speaker 4: They're going to spend a pick on running back. It's
Speaker 4: playing and simple, it's going to do. So you look
Speaker 4: at it and I agree with Patrick here, you and
Speaker 4: ce tennessee a couple of a couple of them are reported.
Speaker 4: I know, I know they've reported the meeting with Hampton,
Speaker 4: They've reported the meeting with Dylan.
Speaker 2: Sandon told us Yeah. Hampton was like straight up like yeah,
Speaker 2: And Dylan Sanders told us is the same thing.
Speaker 4: So there's all these different elements here of you're you're
Speaker 4: following the breadcrumbs. You're following where they're headed. They're headed
Speaker 4: toward getting a running back in the first three rounds.
Speaker 4: Whether that's a twelve, we'll see. But this is such
Speaker 4: a deep running back class that I think they can
Speaker 4: look at it and say, second round, third round, what
Speaker 4: We're fine, especially since we've got that let's address corner,
Speaker 4: let's address running back. I want to be the wide receiver,
Speaker 4: let's address edge rusher at twelve.
Speaker 2: I want to be clear, I believe the Cowboys and
Speaker 2: need to draft a running back. I believe that they
Speaker 2: will draft a running back. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: see it happen at twelve.
Speaker 4: I don't think it will. And the only caveat there
Speaker 4: is Jastrin genty. He's the wild card if gent falls,
Speaker 4: which I right now don't think he will. If he
Speaker 4: falls to twelve, that's gonna be tough for them to
Speaker 4: try and pass for which I get. I think gents
Speaker 4: a generational type of talent that.
Speaker 1: Will be their CD LAMB.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a super tough wild card decision if
Speaker 4: he's there, which he likely won't be correct, so then
Speaker 4: it's gonna If if he's not, they're turning somewhere else,
Speaker 4: they're not gonna go.
Speaker 5: Then you just have to, I don't know, pick best
Speaker 5: player available.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's good than me.
Speaker 1: Maybe just do like that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 7: I know looking at Tip McMillan's pro date numbers yesterday,
Speaker 7: that BPA is looking quite nice.
Speaker 4: You run a thirty eight yard dash? What did he
Speaker 4: run in? He was four four five four six a
Speaker 4: thirty nine yard dash. Got him a little got him
Speaker 4: a little little extra. Trying to get him back up
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